Are You Sure We Teach the Shooting - Holger Geschwindner - Basketball Fundamentals

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  • Holger Geschwindner, mentor and shooting coach of German NBA superstar Dirk Nowitzki, teaches fundamental shooting drills.
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  • @CptFunkyFingers
    @CptFunkyFingers 8 ปีที่แล้ว +363

    "Jawoll, good one."
    Legend.

    • @qemaable
      @qemaable 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Time stamp?

    • @ludo1480
      @ludo1480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@qemaable 23:33

  • @PrizrenaliZH
    @PrizrenaliZH 7 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    17:37 "If we habe 4 guys here, ot's the defence, it's no Hindernis" Der geilste Dude aller Zeiten! Im Training sieht man altbekannte Nowitzki-Techniken. Geil, wie Dirk hier wirklich was mitnahm!

  • @djekna
    @djekna 9 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    I believe he's 70? His movement at this age is impressive. Nice session, too.

    • @scoop4321
      @scoop4321 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +djekna N For someone who teaches shooting, he sure misses a lot of shots.

    • @Kuantrz
      @Kuantrz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      +Douglas Ernst You don't have to be able to shoot to understand how to do it and teach others.

    • @SpaRMe15
      @SpaRMe15 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      +Douglas Ernst dude he teached Dirk hahaha

    • @jochenhartz9480
      @jochenhartz9480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Scoop43 Holger scored 100 POINTS in ONE GAME(Same as WILT did).
      So, if he really wants, he can shoot a bit better than in this video.

    • @dominikinimod
      @dominikinimod 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jochenhartz9480 Yes, 100 but in school.

  • @otaku1o111
    @otaku1o111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    use your elbow,
    finish with fingers,2 fingers at the ball at the last
    bent elbow,elbow is the aiming device,elbow on the goal 37:00
    protect the ball(like you do while dribbling with your legs),
    always look to the rim,
    move upper body first(feet will follow),
    land before rim,not behind the rim
    36:30 just take the ball as soon as it dribble from ground
    we're trying to have an open shot(thats the philosophy)
    force the defense to come to me
    every shot is unique(youve to only make that shot in your life 38:40),put is as soft as you can,the ball is your friend
    41:00 imp,keep the ball as long as you can 43:00,46:20
    every extra dribble gives defence a good chance
    51:00
    1:00:00 imp
    behind the back,one dribble,rotate,spin

  • @alvin081988
    @alvin081988 8 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Kinda reminds me the Dirk layup against Chris Bosh in the 2011 NBA Finals

    • @fahmyboy1
      @fahmyboy1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This guy was dirk's coach

    • @alvin081988
      @alvin081988 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know.....i just didn't imagine dirk doing this training

    • @scattau41
      @scattau41 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      well spotted alvin!

    • @gxdfrxy
      @gxdfrxy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Nowitzki drives with the deflected layup..banks it in!"

  • @ramonalejandrosuare
    @ramonalejandrosuare 8 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Kristaps Porzingis should be dialing this dude up.

    • @slickvisualpoetry
      @slickvisualpoetry 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think Nowitzki and KP agreed on working out together next summer.

    • @CoD_Maj3st1k
      @CoD_Maj3st1k 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!!! Teach him, Dirks, fade away. Imagine, Porzingis at 7'3 shooting that fade away with the precision Dirk developed. If Dirk's was unguardable. Porzingis forget about it.

    • @WeCube1898
      @WeCube1898 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CoD_Maj3st1k
      Question is does KP has the same work rate as DIRK

  • @carlosmarrufo2350
    @carlosmarrufo2350 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Awesome teaching the little things.

  • @demianhaki7598
    @demianhaki7598 9 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Absolute legend!

  • @ulovil
    @ulovil 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It is so SAD I did not have coach like him in my youth. Neither did have youtube in 1992 ((

    • @kcailly1
      @kcailly1 ปีที่แล้ว

      me too I would've went to the league with better instruction

  • @Rypio_39
    @Rypio_39 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The man that made Dirk Nowitzki

  • @juantwotree5710
    @juantwotree5710 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Dude is smart.
    Really smart drills.

  • @ImadogGarcia
    @ImadogGarcia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I needed this man in my youth^^

    • @BigBlack81
      @BigBlack81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We all did.

  • @MarcinB01
    @MarcinB01 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great material.

  • @isaiasshaw7932
    @isaiasshaw7932 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    He really knows what's he's talking about

  • @epocketlsaml
    @epocketlsaml 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    superb fundamental training

  • @jabaruoqui
    @jabaruoqui 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was a basketbal player when i was a teen. Now i´m forty. And only now i´m learning the game. No one taught me the basics. It is a pitty because i really loved the game and i feel that it was a waste of time.

  • @MrShadyKiller
    @MrShadyKiller 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    here we go

  • @danielpagan9713
    @danielpagan9713 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the court! Wish the nba had an arena like this

  • @RAFASUAREZ13
    @RAFASUAREZ13 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great Videoooooooooooooooooooooooooo, great coach.

  • @richardingram7214
    @richardingram7214 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Him and Pete Maravich are the masters of basketball !!!!

  • @predragpetrovic3645
    @predragpetrovic3645 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    3 (of 5) lefthand players :)

  • @derPlastikarm
    @derPlastikarm 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wie er immer also sagt ist so geil

    • @phi-y6s
      @phi-y6s 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ne? :D

  • @AliHussain-fp3yn
    @AliHussain-fp3yn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    TNX COACH I LEARN FROM YOU ALOT LOOKING FOREWORD TO SEE MORE VIDEO

  • @bghallak
    @bghallak 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just amazing!!!

  • @sebastianthomsen4308
    @sebastianthomsen4308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Also what i mean we can go sooousscht 1:00:36

  • @Crnicelad
    @Crnicelad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Near the end he says to land on your heels when coming to a jump stop, for greater stability, but I am pretty sure that is a good way to get your joints (either knees or ankles) injured. Shouldnt you be landing on your forefoot, especially as you grow older and the impact forces get greater?

    • @Entei1482
      @Entei1482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      EU guys don't jump that high so it doesn't matter for them. NBA athletes definitely get up so they must land on the forefoot with a few extra steps to get rid of that force.

    • @scattau41
      @scattau41 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the heels are used to set up a stable base for the jump shot. Watch Dirk and you will see how he gathers himself to shoot ... heel-->toe

    • @saladboi5314
      @saladboi5314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Entei1482 That's just not true lol

    • @SoloAdvocate
      @SoloAdvocate 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only if you don't have good supporting muscles around your joints. With your knees bent as you land you should be utilizing your muscles to support your joints, when you are running it is terrible for your joints because typically your leg is straight and your muscles are not engaged Edit: so your joints take the full force of your weight.

    • @m.p.3157
      @m.p.3157 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's always better to be work with your forefoot because if you keep your tendons under pressure you're way faster.
      Always remember that tendons are quicker than muscles.

  • @firsttimeashe
    @firsttimeashe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great stuff

  • @rwndae
    @rwndae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can we have more videos like this?

    • @woodytil2474
      @woodytil2474 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      check dirkometrix.com

  • @energieteppich
    @energieteppich 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    ich versteh nicht, was da in den südlichen Ländern (italien, spanien etc)falsch läuft, dass da so gut wie kein Mensch auch nur ein bisschen englisch kann,

    • @TupacAurelius
      @TupacAurelius 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Acidgurke stimmt

    • @zwamman
      @zwamman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Spain was a very isolated country in the franco times and that still lingers. They focus on their own media and culture, and that's their loss frankly. In any case, these boys are 13-14 yrs old and it might be a little too demanding to expect them to understand english with a german accent during a bball training

    • @energieteppich
      @energieteppich 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well i just experienced it during visits, that i couldn`t talk to anybody...

    • @jonasgrote3582
      @jonasgrote3582 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Acidgurke bei holger geschwindner kann man ja auch nicht wirklich von englisch reden 😂

    • @jekkt
      @jekkt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      das selbe was in deutschland falsch läuft und dafür in skandinavien richtig läuft

  • @ThePartarar
    @ThePartarar ปีที่แล้ว

    Eff me this’s gold.

  • @masudsaeediphysiotherapy8689
    @masudsaeediphysiotherapy8689 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great philosophy on the game,
    the old coaches with unorthodox training methods make basketball so much more fun..I had a coach like him before ..demanded perfection on every shot
    Take a look at my channel if you want to see shooting videos including 40 POINT GAMES, CRAZY shooting videos and more!
    Thanks for the support and god bless

    • @dabart90
      @dabart90 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i had a judo coach exactly the same. It took me a while to understand what really makes u great is mastering the "simple" stuff :P

  • @thatboygreg_
    @thatboygreg_ 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chapters on this vid would be 👍

  • @TheChandhi
    @TheChandhi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He doesn't have as much hair as he had in 1974/75, when we often met him at the TÜ Sports University in Munich.

  • @papinski1978
    @papinski1978 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOAT Holger

  • @maromarelli
    @maromarelli 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    tranquillo non hai tradotta una giusta!
    comunque un video da vedere e rivedere

    • @Gm_s.e
      @Gm_s.e 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Poveri ragazzi...Ha sparato cazzate per un'ora intera hahahahha

    • @malstrom_
      @malstrom_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tranquillo e la vera difesa negli esercizi

    • @GabrielMisfire
      @GabrielMisfire 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      la massima a 38:57 si è proprio persa, che è un gran peccato - è il tipo di frase che ogni principiante ha bisogno di sentire da un maestro

  • @Bob-fj7lr
    @Bob-fj7lr ปีที่แล้ว

    most fascinating shit i’ve seen

  • @yohannes80
    @yohannes80 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    around 31:00 why making this extramove around the back? it just brings the ball back to the defenders side again. just leave it (on that side) on the left side.....

    • @scoop4321
      @scoop4321 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +foiuno As he said, it's for the TV cameras!

    • @yohannes80
      @yohannes80 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Douglas Ernst
      didnt catch that, thx......;-)

    • @dirkdarcy6695
      @dirkdarcy6695 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +foiuno Holger is saying....."to show you, how much time you got to finish a layup". That's why he'asking for the ball around the back. For a delay, so players do not open up the ball to soon on the movement. he is not saying to use this in the game.

    • @yohannes80
      @yohannes80 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dirk D´Arcy
      yeah, the other dude already explained that, my fault, didnt catch that. thanks anyway....

    • @ThePlayCore
      @ThePlayCore 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +foiuno it trains the coordination and the ball handling

  • @EinRevolvermann
    @EinRevolvermann 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ist das alles logisch durchdacht. Bin echt verblüfft.

  • @jkbaustnco
    @jkbaustnco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How can I tag Lonzo Ball here? 🤔

  • @andre1k28
    @andre1k28 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I calzoncini di Tranquillo sono una delizia

  • @nawezajossardprosper8785
    @nawezajossardprosper8785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watch the video until end
    Did he just reshape their shot just by doing couple layups
    Look at their wrist motions, neat
    Perfect

  • @y.annick161
    @y.annick161 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    the translator is very, very bad :D

  • @JoshCConnor
    @JoshCConnor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holger Dr. Frankenstein Geschwinder

  • @sackramm
    @sackramm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    mir wird schon vom zugucken schwindlig

    • @jannes867
      @jannes867 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Und wieso?

  • @hopeagainsthope9553
    @hopeagainsthope9553 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    genius

  • @chinov2933
    @chinov2933 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ayzup!!

  • @sgamerzita4430
    @sgamerzita4430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grande flavioneeeeee hahahahahah

  • @VCthaGOATdunker
    @VCthaGOATdunker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clicking the elbows together? What the.

  • @spraymaster
    @spraymaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is moving better than me and I am 39....

  • @Filquero
    @Filquero 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    pOR QUÉ hacen pasos XDDDDDDD todo el rato haciendo pasos xdd

    • @hectornash1323
      @hectornash1323 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      el de zapatillas azules y camiseta blanca xD!!

  • @fokal.strktr
    @fokal.strktr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zie sing izzz

  • @gerardmamon5376
    @gerardmamon5376 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    whos here bcoz youtube recommendation

  • @andoniovingenzi9117
    @andoniovingenzi9117 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Che rompicoglioni tranquillo

  • @dingenzz
    @dingenzz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "jaaaa,ne"

  • @phil.2159
    @phil.2159 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aisap!!!

  • @andreaskontos78
    @andreaskontos78 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    around 52 minutes he suggests landing on the HEELS when jump stop with the ball above the head. Not quite athletic i believe.

    • @fixedfocusfilm3068
      @fixedfocusfilm3068 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds to me like he meant to say "flat-footed", which includes the heels, but I think things get lost in translation. A jump stop on one's toes (or the balls of the feet) isn't as stable, and balance is crucial to shooting. That seems to be the gist.

    • @fixedfocusfilm3068
      @fixedfocusfilm3068 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And he emphasized a heel to toe roll, which further evinces a concerted effort to be balanced and in control as much as possible.

    • @brunogomes603
      @brunogomes603 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Your opinion is wrong- nba analysis That it's not true. You want to land with your heels first. 1- you are more stable. 2-you get more power from every part of your legs. It has to be a continued movement

    • @bghallak
      @bghallak 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Antreas Kontos when you grab a reboud you land on the front foot, avoiding hurts, but when you prepare a jump shot, the small jump before, you land on the heel to gain stability and control. Each sport, each situation, a different solution.

    • @andreaskontos78
      @andreaskontos78 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When you hop to prepare a jumpshot especially from long distance you do not use your heels at all. It is faster and more stable in my opinion. The heel to toe landing can sometimes be used when you want to stop your movement drastically, but if you the heel lands away fom your body vertical line it is e very dangerous situation for the joints.

  • @chianyuchen8152
    @chianyuchen8152 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    For anyone doubt his training program check this th-cam.com/video/Igj6hF7yaGc/w-d-xo.html

  • @eboooo
    @eboooo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you sure we teach shooting? That's a great title

  • @WatersAbove77
    @WatersAbove77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why get personal training sessions when you can just watch this video and practice the drills at your local basketball court.

    • @kyrie4451
      @kyrie4451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because you won't get any feedback for correction and improvement which are the essentials for coaching.

    • @MelodicHxCDude
      @MelodicHxCDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those videos are meant for coaches. They get a little inside on how the best coaches around the world coach players. It is not about the exercises in first place its about how they correct mistakes in certain scenarios. Ain't no way to improve without making mistakes and fixing those

  • @SuperMazzo93
    @SuperMazzo93 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Dio mio che traduzione imbarazzante.

    • @GianlucOne88
      @GianlucOne88 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Davide Mazzonetto orribile, non ha capito quasi nulla di quello che diceva

  • @stefanovestrini5798
    @stefanovestrini5798 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    come fa a tradurre cosi' male flavio tranquillo!? "heels come first" lo traduce con "prima il piede sinistro poi il destro" HAHAHAHAHAH

  • @gabboduse
    @gabboduse 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tranquillo ha dei pantaloni terrificanti ed una traduzione fastidio/fantasiosa

  • @leonmudri6683
    @leonmudri6683 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    so this guys spent 1 hour only doing layups.wow.

    • @MelodicHxCDude
      @MelodicHxCDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now imagine how many hours dirk spent with him to be able to be one of the greatest ballers of all time

  • @EliteYoungG
    @EliteYoungG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m stripping that everytime

  • @MrTrombaso
    @MrTrombaso 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ma orca troia, tranquillo sa tradurre quello che dice l'allenatore senza inventare? porcozio che nervoso

  • @SportGamingComputing
    @SportGamingComputing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:30 Honestly, with all due respect, that's a lame ass move and useless, and I've never seen someone do it in the major leagues, either in the nba or the euroleague or the olympics etc... why lock in your elbows like that tho ?? I don't understand the point of this...

    • @SportGamingComputing
      @SportGamingComputing 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Easy block for Rudy Gobert if you go for a layup like that lol

    • @orlmagicfan4life528
      @orlmagicfan4life528 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've seen Paul George do it.... on wide open layups😅

    • @SportGamingComputing
      @SportGamingComputing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@orlmagicfan4life528 lol ofc he'll do that hahahahahahaha
      well yeah I mean, locking in your elbows like that is quite uncomfortable and exhausting....

    • @orlmagicfan4life528
      @orlmagicfan4life528 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SportGamingComputing fr

    • @MrFrinZy
      @MrFrinZy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SportGamingComputing You've never seen offensive players split defenders like that?

  • @timolol3845
    @timolol3845 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    des pommes des poires et des scoubidou bidou

  • @AreLL
    @AreLL 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard to watch. Language barrier

  • @zamuelito8266
    @zamuelito8266 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma che sta a dire? Sta traducendo a cazzo sto tipo qua...Chi ci hanno messo a tradurre?

  • @wes2262
    @wes2262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this. This is how Europeans learn to compete against their more athletic counterparts

    • @smushparker6756
      @smushparker6756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Europeans aren't "athletic"?

    • @travisprice57
      @travisprice57 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smushparker6756 no not compared to american players

  • @fampol5900
    @fampol5900 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The constant translation is very disturbing; if you don't understand at least some basic English, don't invite foreign trainers!

  • @ApliaSkateboards
    @ApliaSkateboards 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    well i'm no legendary coach or a Mentor for a future hall of famer, but why are they practicing travelling? that dude in the white shirt is struggling a lot with these three step moves. Holger has lots of good stuff, points and reasoning behind everything and that is why i just wonder why practice that stuff with travels.

    • @Finnopaws
      @Finnopaws 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ApliaSkateboards i was pausing some of the moves. i also thought most of this was travelling.

    • @tehNash
      @tehNash 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      where is the travelling? They are making just two steps.

    • @hawak79
      @hawak79 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +ApliaSkateboards I guess there are some travels, but if you do it the right way, the last dribbling is allways with a step. So two steps to go. Fundamentals.

    • @davidka6920
      @davidka6920 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +ApliaSkateboards there shouldnt be any travels. If they travel theyre doing a mistake. And the guy in the white shirt struggles because hes taking the ball up waay too early

    • @Finnopaws
      @Finnopaws 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly!

  • @turitasi6126
    @turitasi6126 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idiot

  • @dondon3421
    @dondon3421 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st

    • @KingJilu1
      @KingJilu1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Congrats who do you want this award to go to? We also send out free cookies for 1st lol.

    • @dondon3421
      @dondon3421 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      rofl

  • @kiosunightstep6640
    @kiosunightstep6640 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Half of this stuff looks like a travel.

    • @iijayiii
      @iijayiii 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kiosu Nightstep its not travelling dude. its a 1 2 finish. The kid in white is the one who is struggling by taking ball to early

  • @blankblank6733
    @blankblank6733 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    too much talk bro
    pro player do what he wants to do
    tactics and skilll
    the old man too many basic bro

    • @ChannelBrotherSister
      @ChannelBrotherSister 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      being pro needs basic.

    • @chianyuchen8152
      @chianyuchen8152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s a fundamental course. Pro players hire personal basic move trainer and practice tactics with teammates.

    • @blankblank6733
      @blankblank6733 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i dont think so...
      look at street player
      i agree tactics really important
      but basic lay up and driblle???
      come on...
      they dont need that old man
      go to street u can find ur own move bro

    • @jasonirby3023
      @jasonirby3023 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is no such thing as being too fundamentally sound