Are Mexicans Native Americans?
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Gabriel Clark-Faust's story is a profound journey of self-discovery and reconnection. From a closed adoption, he spent years piecing together his identity, culminating in a deep dive into his Native roots-a heritage often obscured for many Hispanics and Mexicans. His experience highlights the complex layers of loss and rediscovery faced by many as they wrestle with the disconnection from their indigenous origins.
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Yes, there are Indigenous Americans throughout the Western Hemisphere. There's a strong Indigenous presence in Mexico.
You're right, and Mexico (the government) and Mexican people treat them like garbage. A lot of discrimination towards them.
When I went to cancun and got a tour of the pyramids, we saw the indigenous Mayans, and Oxacans get treated low class. They truly rough it out there 100 percent of the time in the jungle, roofs are rare.. 0.o
@@antoineleedolliole7549
Yeah, but this was long ago, you killed Americans when you where expanded to the west, It's not the same now
Theres a movement of Black Americans pushing the notion that the Olmec, Mayan and Mexica are black 🤢@@antoineleedolliole7549
What’s the name of your tribe?
Mexican is not an ethnicity, it is a nationality. The same with every nation.
Mexican is a race and Mexico is a nation. Mexicans have their own ethnicity. Do some research
@@kima3565Mexican is a race??? Since when? I was taught there are only 3 races: black, white, and Asian.
A considerable proportion of Mexico is Indian (of the type indigenous to the Americas) or part Indian.
I've long heard that many of the Indians of Mexico loudly say that they are NOT Hispanic/Latino and that Spanish, in ANY form, is not their language.
@@kima3565that can't be true because some Mexicans are black some are white some are Chinese. Mexicans are every race.
💯 Mexican is a nationalist with many ethnicities , Mexico has 27 native tribes , German , Irish , Spanish, Jewish/ middle eastern ,African, and plenty of mixtures of people , the majority are mixed race just like the rest of central and South America 🥂
I'm from theNavajo tribe of N.M. Yes, I think Mexicans and South Americans are native Americans. They had their own native language and cultures. We all used to travel long ways to trade coffee, gems, jewelry, foods in the past. Traveling from North to South America to trade before the Spaniards came and colonized us all in the America's. This is how Mexicans learned Spanish. In the past they spoke Inca's, Aztec's, Mayan's and many other tribes had their own native language before colonized.
thank you for commenting! I used to teach on the Diné Rez in New Mexico. NM is my favorite place in the country
You all didn't trade coffee before the Spanish arrived 😂
They didn't speak Aztec, Most of Mexico spoke Nahuatl. it's part of Uto-Aztecan languages; found almost entirely in the Western United States and Mexico
Are you navajo or are from thier reservation? Its a big difference, The Navajo are not original to our land, In fact ancestors of ours knew the Mexican was our peoples thought we fought them, But knew the Navajo came from someplace else though we got along with them. I'm sure thought since you were labeled Apache you took in many of our peoples. But i would be interesting to find out why our ancestors spoke such things. From what i gathered Navajo came from another land & intermixed with others of our peoples but not originally of our peoples. Like from Asia or something? Though what i know of Navajo it indeed does seem to be of our peoples, However thier is also rumor's that over time they have stolen bits & pieces of other tribes beliefs. But I have not found any evidence of that. Shallawam Shallom Ayo Hawwah Great Spirit Bless.
Thanks brotha!
My dad and I went to New Mexico years ago he was very old already but i took him with me to a ski resort and when we arrived the natives embraced him like if he was one of their own and even took him with my permission to go on the rides around the ski resort while I was skiing I do believe us Mexicans are descendants of American natives too
I’m not a historian, but that makes sense, since before anyone colonized this continent, there were no imaginary lines saying, “This is Mexico, USA, Canada, etc.” Very nice story ❤
You are natives too but the difference they preserved their language while yout ancestors adopted Spanish language and religion
@@JUVENTUS299Not everyone in Mexico adopted Spanish as a language. Close to 60 indigenous languages are spoken in Mexico nowadays. Unfortunately those who don’t speak Spanish are discriminated against and their rights are violated since they comprised the most marginalized section of our society as a nation.
@LlamameJazz they should be rewarded instead of getting punished for maintaining their language and culture that connected to the land
Spanish language is nothing but the languages of colonizers stole this land and enslaved the locals and raped the natives
Any country despise it's own history. It won't go forward without the association with its past
@@LlamameJazz Once the Indigenous from New Spain lost the protection granted by the Hispanic Monarchy, they became the prime victims of the newborn Mexican Republic in 1823, this government composed mostly of members of Freemasonry, who were the ones who orchestrated the destruction of the Spanish Empire, were subordinates and agents to the British Empire and its interests, and therefore, aligned to its ideologies of racial superiority that would dominate the next 200 years until today, a power that still dominates the world, and the reason why this abuses are still committed.
Mexicans are named after thr Mexica People, an Indigenous People who were the biggest ethnic group in Aztec Empire
That name was imposed by a tiny elite governing from Mexico City tho. People in my state never considered themselves to be Mexican until New Spain gained independence and rebrandes itself as Mexico.
My state had no Mexica presence in pre-Columbian times either.
@@TheJosmanWhat do you mean imposed? Iturbide declare the independence and everyone in the territory no matter color,flavor or size became Mexican.
"Aztec empire"
The Aztecs did not exist... they were called Mexicas... "Aztecs" is a myth
@@TheJosman Which state?
@@LaberintoAzul They became nationalist and withheld their caste system, which was created to further divide and conquer people. Reconnected indigenous people aren’t actually “free” and are always living in extremely poor conditions. Indigenous people everywhere have the highest poverty rates.
I unintentionally ended a friendship four decades ago when I said you look Indigenous to me. She was a US citizen born and raised here having parents both from Mexico. I did not know until that time how discriminated Indigenous people are treated in Mexico. I always believed people should be honored to have Indigenous blood flowing in their veins.
Growing up going to an all white school in the US I may have been offended as well because people were blatantly racist towards me for being brown.
It is definetly important how you say indigenous or refer to it. As some people feel like you are telling them they are less than since many Mexicans are not in a tribe. So saying you look indiginous translates you are a native indigenous person. For some people its a sensitive topic. Its all about the context and also the individual person this is said to.
Emblem of the Americas 1798 the American Indians
well, when they are all raised with european beliefs and languages they usually teach you to hate the Natives.
@@gew20271492
I m MEXICAN and we are real Americans we belong to the American continent we don’t have to cross any ocean to get here to the American continent
Half of you did your half of you is native the other half spanish sorry thats why we are La Raza
The Race that didn't exist till the spanish got here Like the Amerasians from servicemen who were in vietnam during the war, except the spanish were there for 300yrs. My sister did the 23 and me dna thing and it said native American and Iberian peninsula(spain) and a certain amount sub suharan African from the Moors (Muslims) invaded spain for 300 yrs.
But you did cross the Bering Strait
This guy is Mexican ~▪︎which is commonly Mestizo which is half European and Mexican - Indigenous. We have our own unique culture and speak an European Language. He is NOT pure Mexican ~ Indigenous if he was his hair would be very straight and thin😂🎉! His hair is very Mestizo thick 'n WAVY ~ a dead give - away😮🎉😂!
My grandfather is half native half Spanish from New Mexico. He experienced a lot of racism for being native looking from whites who simply called him a “spic.” We always said the borders moved around us!!
@user lol not all natives have straight hair…anyway he might be part Spanish somewhere distantly but what is that doing for him? He’s native, proud to be native.
A large percentage of "Latino's" are of the Native American race/s. The United States government is aware of this, and does their best to have people of Native American descent immigrating to the U.S. identify as "Latino" and have the U.S. population see them as such. This is done in part to artificially reduce the population of Native Americans and reduce their political strength.
Conspiracy theory. Stop trying to sow division.
@@briancole7024 Conspiracy theory or not, those are the consequences of the government's disparate treatment of people of native descent. I'm not sowing division, I'm explaining why there is division between people of Native American descent from the United States and from the United States and those of Native American descent from south of the border.
"Native American Race" 😂, What race are you, the European Race? 😁
@@hugoramirez6698 What's your point? Do you even have one?
@@MRXYZ1ER Yes, I have a race, the human race, what about you, are you a human or a martian, what about a sayan, are you a sayan boy?
My Mother in law , who died a couple of years ago , She was born 100 years ago in Northern New Mexico . We did her DNA test before she died. She claimed 100% Spanish . She had only 12 % Spanish , She was 68 % Native DNA
Did she appear Spanish (European)? Also, sorry for your loss 🙏🏾😔
I guess some of them don't believe that there were already Natives in Mexico before Spain colonized Mexico.
Yo, these wife's note the true devil. They have to separate every call to this, not ghost like them. Ghost of a color like them.
Ditto.
When the Spaniards came to Mexico the ships didn't bring many Spanish women. So when people from New Mexico and Southern Colorado state they are 100% Spanish, I mention this to them. Plus in Spain there are log books of the people who came on these vessels and there were few women listed in there.
Mexican who has always lived and embraced my indigenous lineage and ancestors. ❤
100 :)
I’m a Mestiza and I’m so proud of every part of my ancestry
The indigenous are the jews from the tribe of issachar
❤❤❤❤ Me too
For a long time, I had it, coming to AMERICAN does that, racism is real, so I tried to be as much American as possible. I am proud again, I am apache. My grandmother was Indian from jalisco m exico. I finally did research and found my roots via my gradmothers side.
I’m so glad you guys talked about this! This was so necessary and very informative. Unfortunately, It’s difficult to find people who are interested and passionate about this topic.
Because it's all bs, us Mexicans are Hispanics period, and we should be proud of our Hispanic heritage, viva Mexico y viva la Madre patria España
I'm interested, I love learning about native culture as well, but let's be real too, scientifically in Mexico paternal haplogroups are predominantly european, about 60-70% come from european haplogroups, about 30% of Mexico's paternal haplogroups are Indigenous, Our maternal haplogroups are predominantly native, but they adopted most of our forfather's cultures. If you think about it, everything we love about Mexico today is predominantly hispanic and adopted elements of our mother's native culture, So in reality we are mestizo and culturally more hispanic.Nothing wrong with that, it's how we evolve as species.
This is a much needed a coversation. I have met several people who will dispute that most of the Hispanic community are indigenous. They don't even know our linage and will argue it for dominance of the conversation. Its very frustrating when you actually know how long you have been on your native soil and terrain, just for someone else across the country to yell at you... Saying you are wrong!
This is the first step. Educate! ❤
Alot of us hispanics are mestizos or mixed with indigenous tribes from Mexico and Spanish or Portuguese blood.
We are Hispanics period, and we should be proud of our Hispanic heritage
@@jaym.4611 and many with african blood too
@@gustavosandoval4480 Hispanic is not a race.
@@gustavosandoval4480yes we are Hispanic but that label doesn’t apply the same to many of the European descendent as well as to the descendants of natives as well as the Africans. It is much more complicated than just “Hispanic” and some of us are proud of those roots we share; like the menonitas that still speak in German; to My Great Grandfather being indigenous and speaking his language.
As a black American, I thought the term indigenous would be seen almost a complement since they are the original people of their land.
as a black american you should look up the trans pacific slave trade.....
😂 Stop the lies. Latinos are a new race. The so called indigenous tribes owe black Americans reparations too. They need to Ditch the pride talk and give us our reparations for helping put black Americans in slavery. And changing Indian to native... it's getting old... looking at pale bi racials faces tell us they indigenous and this they land
@@youuknow4670 Yes
That is because YOU are original to this land. Not the "Mexicans", and not the "Native Americans".
@@curtisokemahlvpvtpvke822😂😂 exactly that person misinformed
There are more native American languages spoken in Mexico than in the USA. Yes, Mexican natives are of American roots.
That would include Nahuatl.
I'm proud my children have a large Otomi heritage from my husband's side. Their DNA test through Ancestry showed 47% - 49% Otomi and Chichimeca. My husband seems not to care, but I do. I can't wait to visit Querétaro and meet his family and the community there. I am learning a few things in Hnahnu and Nahuatl just in case I by chance get to meet anyone who still speaks those languages. The small town he is from mostly speaks Spanish, but I've read many online books about the surrounding areas that still speak indigenous languages.
I love that my children have a connection to the indigenous of Mexico.
My ancestors are from Scotland and Ireland and I think that's cool too. I hope to learn a few things in Gaelic as well, and I read a few things about the mysterious ancient Picts.
@@pdcdesign9632 Absolutely.
@annasalmans5523
I've always believed everyone should be proud of their heritage. This world is like a giant patchwork quilt, and every part is interesting and unique.
Yes, because Mexico is in America! Duh! Lol
Spaniards came over and breed with the aztecs and thats what made a Mexican.
Beautiful conversation... 🙏
Thanks for listening!
Great conversation!
When I go to Mexico I'm considered American. When I'm in America I'm considered Mexican. When I was in the Middle East, people thought I was Arabian or Indian.
I'm okay with all of it.
Culturally, I'm American (born and raised). Genetically, I'm of Mexican Indigenous, Spanish, African, and Jewish blood.
I speak English and Spanish fluently and I've started taking French lessons.
I consider myself a citizen of the world. I've been to about 15 countries (in Asia, Latin America, and Middle East). I've always been comfortable everywhere I've been. Carry yourself with respect and you'll be treated accordingly.
I see nothing wrong with your perspective, in fact I find it a bit refreshing.
There are many have j1 J1-P58
Thier ancestors had to adopt Christianity due ethnic clearance In andulisia
I bet that people from arabian Background in Mexico more than Spanish descent
You look arab 💯
I respect everyone where he came from
Right on brother.
Creoles were of pure Euro-ancestry born in the Americas, who often had fewer rights and privileges than those born in Europe living in the Americas. This was one of the components that ignited revolution and wαך for independence of the Colonies in both North and South America. People from New Mexico are not Spanish nor are people from Louisiana, Creoles.
My moms super white but she did a 23and me and turns out she’s 60% indigenous from Central America. (We come from El Salvador). Genetics is so fascinating
Mine too. Lol. It’s weird that most North Americans don’t believe that indigenous Central American people are Native American. They think the US border created a different race.
@@JFoster310 hahahahaha right?
What’s funnier is that Anglos who created all this mess think all “white” peoples are a monolith.
Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks and Slavs are some of THE most racially mixed Europeans ever. Not to mentioned the most accustomed to living with other races.
My great grandma born in Northern Mexico, looks like your average white Midwestern American. Turns out her mtDNA is Native American (a2a4 - Apache/Navajo). Discovered that her ancestors were Spanish settlers in New Mexico who mixed with local indigenous people. It’s just the offspring kept reproducing with the Spanish side and so there’s more European features than Native, however mtDNA doesn’t change at all when passed from mother to children :)
My mom was from Honduras. She was white and had blue eyes and red hair from her Spanish heritage and she was a tiny 4 foot 11 inches tall from her indigenous heritage. She was the fourth generation born in Honduras. I was born in Nicaragua.
@@JFoster310 Technically speaking, Mexico is a part of North America. I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't know that.
@@gringo3002 Not technically, it its North American country. But the average American is dumb as rocks in the areas of race, nationality, ethnicity, and geography.
I was born in Washington State but my parents are from a little indigenous village in Mexico. My mother is half indigenous since her mother was from this village but her father was from outside of the village. He was pale, light brown eyes curly hair. And the people form the village were tan, jet black straight hair. So my mother looks indigenous but she’s light skinned, curly hair light brown eyes. I always get mistaken for Asian but I think it’s because I look indigenous but inherited my grandpa’s skin tone and have indigenous eyes that look Asian. Idk I feel proud to be indigenous ❤ I feel it in my blood, I see it in the mirror. My ancestors. I look completely different than the rest of the people from the village but I see the resemblance and it’s just a beautiful thing.
Through my DNA I found out I was 51% native American, 25% Spanish and 17% Portuguese. I was raised believing I was Mexican. I'm very proud of being all three of 'em! And by the way I just turned 79yrs. So what's the big deal?!! We are all children of God.
Blessings to u Ms.Mary 💛
Torres is a Mexican name. My neighbors growing up were Torres, and Mexican-American... In the Midwest, many with Spanish names are originally from other countries, and don't like at all when ignorant people assume they are Mexican.
Mexican is not a race! Just like American is not a race. Mexico is very mix country of people from different parts in the world.
Torres is not Mexican it originated from Spain.
Mexican is a creed not a race. 😂😂😂. You are mestizo.
Some Latinos think that the language they speak is the race that they are.
.....without realizing it all comes from Europe in the first place. Oops!
@StratOCasterMIJ90 No, its cultural and social standing, not racial, its just that if you stand out as obviously mexican but don't speak spanish, it's almost shameful and ignorant of your ancestry. Race and blood is integral but ultimately secondary to language and culture.
I keep telling people Hispanic means property of Spain you isralites need to wake up and read your Bible. Shalom
Don't confuse Latino with Mexican. Latino has nothing to do with Mexican.
Mexican is Mexican!
@@BeADad2447 do you believe your an isralite a descendant of issachar? Do you read your Bible?
I'm very indigenous, my mother understands Nahua however hasnt spoken it since she left mexico and therefore lost the tongue, from what she has said. However i refuse to believe it since she never brought it up or mentioned that fact to me. I learned through an aunt.
My grandmother from my moms side, spoke Nahua, her old photos, straight up indigenous. From Southern Veracruz, bordering Oaxaca.
My uncles on my moms side speak Nahua and communicate with Otomi tribes.
However even with all this, I used to hate my indigenous features. Growing up in EEUU I got bullied until 18 for being indigenous looking, always being the butt end of a joke
However you wanna call it, I got bullied for getting personal and or trying to recognize my indigenous roots. So i just always kinda kept it in the back ground. I didnt learn about my Nahua connections till I turned 21 because I realized how important it really is and integral it is to my mothers family identity.
With all this being said, Indigenous Mexicans are natives and you should always be proud of your indigenous roots and vo back to Mexico if you have indigenous roots and please learn from your grandmothers jf you can. Or grandfathers.
Also my grandmother was proof to me that Indigenous featurs are beautiful. She had strong indigenous roots. Someone loved her enough to create a family. Boom, made me realized my grandpa loved her and created my mom who then created me.
What did you use to learn Nahuatl?
Awesome bro. My girlfriends moms side of the family is also from Oaxaca. It’s dope to see her learning about it more and more.
I hope you learn some nahuatl, and if you travel to Mexico you can use it.
These southern American tribes are dying out fast, and learning as much about your culture is critical before the only sources of information are dead.
Kwali tonali!
Gabriel, I love how you just dived in and are learning about your true roots! Your journey into your ethnicity is very interesting and I don’t believe it will ever end because you want to know who you are. I wish you’d put more talks on your YT channel and write a book. I would read it!
I call myself a heinz57 because I have so many roots from Europe, Asia, and Mexico. Most of my indigenous roots are from Mexico. My dad always wanted me to be more white, but I never looked white, so I was naturally drawn to people who looked like me in school. I’m still on my discovery journey and love hearing about others’ journeys, that how I connected with this NYTN channel.
I am enjoying your guest today! I love his research on his heritage, its refreshing to see his pride in his indigenous heritage.
My 23/me didn’t say I was Mexican, it stated Indigenous to the Americas and is lit up from Jalisco to New Mexico.
Emblem of the Americas 1798 . Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives the Trans Pacific Slave trade
@@gew2027So what are you trying to say?
Yep many people in Mexico have more than one native group in their ancestry. Before the 1680 Pueblo Revolt the Spanish were sending New Mexican Pueblo Indians to the silver mines in Mexico as slaves.
@@tbrown4080 Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives the Trans Pacific Slave trade
my 23 is fake
I am Mexican born but with indigenous ancestry I am Apache of the Tarahumara people of chihuahua I have visited the Apache reservation in Arizona I feel a strong connection to our cousins on the American side and the Mexican side because we are the same people I do feel American 🇺🇸 but at the same time I know I’m Mexican and I know these lands used to be Mexico 🇲🇽 so I do feel at home and proud of my indigenous heritage of chihuahua.
As you should. I've told my three children to always be proud of their Mexican/Indigenous heritage.
That is so amazing. I have Aztec ancestry. Hello to all my brothers and sisters and cousins:)
Another thing how did the Mexican vaquero learn his trade of being a cowboy, he learned it from his Indian brother's. I'm Yaqui and proud of my indigenous ancestry.
you feel american because everybody in the Americas is American.....from chile and peru to the united states ...america is not a country its a continent and there is many countries in the americas just like there is many countries in europe...no matter what country people are from in europe they are still europeans ...
Anyone belong to ancient civilization would never attribute himself to colonizers unless if he came from countries like black Dominicans or Venezuela or Salvador poor history and civilization
Thank you both for sharing!!!💜 This inspires me so much! This has opened me up so much.💜
People from Mexico are indigenous and YES we fall into the Native American group
I find this conversation incredibly interesting when you also consider how many times our man-made borders have changed. Our DNA does not adhere to these borders. Personally, I think it’s most valuable how people and cultures define themselves, and I love to listen.
Yes these borders have changed so much. my family used to be in "mexico" then the border changed and it became Texas. They had not moved haha
@@nytnwe didn’t cross the border border crossed us 🤎💪🏽🇲🇽🇺🇸🌵🏜️
Just like the Middle East and Africa.
European Empires almost always carve out borders in straight lines. Look at Mali/Niger/Algeria borders. They're straight lines going through deserts and grass plains.
Middle East, Pakistan/India, Yemen all have pretty straight borders which disregards the habitants.
@@nytn can you explain how indigenous people started to become pale. Can you explain why all Latinos have a claim to be indigenous but they some how escaped being put on reservations
@@truthserum6672 reservations happened in america, not mexico. If your family has more indigenous ancestry south of the border, like mine, you wouldnt have that
Wow, I'm constantly blown away at how you out do yourself with each new interview. I truly feel like a student in a "world classroom." Danielle thank you for bring these subjects out into open for through and honest discussion. I appreciate you. Gabriel Clark-Faust is young man searching and learning his truth and willing to share it with others. I've always seen people of Mexican heritage as also Indigenous people, so happy to see this discussed. We all become greater with these explorations. Thank you.
Wow, thank you! You always fill me up with the kindest words, thank you for being here
@@nytn It's easy to do. Positive light seeks positive light. Keep up the great research you are connecting and restoring history. I appreciate the space that you've created.
I basically agree with seeing Mexican as indigenous but many that come from the Northen most Mexican states like Chihuahua will often have a good amount more European Spanish or at least a little more European Spanish ancestry than they do Native.
I was one of those people that did not know I had indigenous ancestry. To find out at 42 years old I have 43% indigenous ancestry from Mexico was a complete shock. I am proud to say that I am apart of them. And yes, there are so many people "dark Mexicans" that have no idea they have indigenous ancestry due to being uneducated.
In Mexico, it isn't a mystery to know that most Mexicans descend (partially or fully, depending on the person) from Native Americans. However, most of us identify as mestizo (mixed-race) since race mixing was never prohibited anywhere in Latin America.
If your people depend on Blood Quantum, your tribe has an expiration date
WOW, never heard that, but it's something to think about
This is a valid argument- also it promotes discrimination imo
How so?
Ouch. Yet small groups of peoples need to marry out. The fragility of culture can be heartbreaking. Teach your children well. All you can do.
All "tribes" are defined by familial/blood relations, by definition. Everything else is arbitrary and meaningless. "Blood is thicker than water, or "identity"."
Im Comanche and my great grandparents immigrated from Chihuahua Mexico they was refugees from the 40 year war with Texas our first language is spanish, my grandfather used to tell people he was Mexican in the 20's and 30's so he could work because we was still hunted then 🪶
I grateful that TH-cam sends these videos to me. There is so much in this world to learn and appreciate. There is also much to learn about how we, ourselves, contribute to a society that lifts some, and oppresses the rest. Unwinding that double-helix of unjustifiable hatred and ignorance is where I think programs like this one excel. Thank you 🙏 ❤
Peninsulares were the people born in Spain. The children of spaniards born in Mexico are criollos. The mixed race of spaniard and indigenous are the mestizos, indigenous and black were called zambos. I learned that in elementary school, second or third grade in Mexico. I'm 62 now.
That's true except with the zambos.
Indigenous + Black = "Mulatos"
Some Mexicans are mestizos others are just Native American, or just Spanish, I happen to be 50% Spanish/basque so Iam a mestizo
@kinglisco1379 and some are black, you left that out.
@@LibraYall all Mexicans usually have some % of African from west African slaves, imported into Mexico
@@LibraYall1.5% perhaps are black
Thank you for bringing this topic up. It needs to be discussed more.
THEY ARE SIBERIANS!!! Anyone we call Mexican or indian is SIBERIAN!!!! We have genetics for a reason!! We have science for a reason!
It’s good to see again bro, we met before at a Powwow.
“The receipts of our history” make me think humanity is on some sort of recurring subscription to war and poverty and abuse. Every time things look like they might be getting better they renew the subscription.
Yes they are for the most part. What 5hey do not have is treaty rights with the Federal government .
No different than any other immigration group.
All wars are bankers wars . Then the governments use the divide and conquer and sadly its working.
Ever since the era of Bable the devil has only came to causes confusion & destruction to be divided instead of united we are all brothers & sisters... remember how the saying goes the enemy of my enemy is my friend no matter their ethnicity or belief in faith.
Unfortunately true (and well stated). It would be nice if we could stop renewing the subscription and dooming ourselves and future generations to repeating history.
It’s true. Look at all the currently discovered cities buried over time being researched all over the globe. Literally layers of past civilizations near or under others. Amazing Deserts that were oceans or lakes… amazing cycle except things are getting worse over time.
It depends what part of Mexico you are from but yes we Mexicans do have native American ancestory
We identify as mestizo and ouf course embrace our native side. It is part of who we are after all, same as the European and African one
I think the native Americans comes from either the Incas or Olmecas the Olmecas was a civilization before the Mayans and the Aztecs but they trying to say that we come from the native Americans the ones who live in the United States
Probably some descent from the Aztecs.
I'm pretty sure the Aztecs didn't use Spanish as their native language.
@@TheJosmanNot many of us identify with any African ancestry, we are mainly Indigenous and European
Great video, very insightful hopefully get better audio on the next one
How can we find out what indigenous tribe our ancestors were from?
Not only do Mexicans have indigenous blood. They had the greatest and most powerful native tribe of the western hemisphere
Gabriel(Hebrew), Clark(English), Faust(German).........His own name is a perfect expression of the linguistic/cultural labels that have been imposed on Native Peoples, the world over. No wonder he has so many "identity" issues. He loves his name, but he also knows on some level it's not "right".
I don't see his link, I'd love to check out his TH-cam
I was suprised at the variety in my family tree. It's a good feeling you get from knowing about your family history. I think that it's good to have pride in where you come from. If you think about the fact, that its only been in the last, 50 to 60 years that, the things that we take for granted, like central heating / cooling, indoor plumbing, water heaters, gas and electric stoves, refrigerators, microwave ovens, etc., are now in the houses, of even the lowest income brackets. Alot of those things that I listed above, have been around longer then 50 to 60 years, but thats more or less how long you could go to when these weren't taken for granted, and where considered to be luxury. All that to say that, depending on your age, if your 45yrs or older, your grandparents and even your parents had to work at living, compared to today, where you have pretty much anything, literally at the tip of your finger, by means of cell phone, you can have any thing you can afford to pay for, literally delivered to your door. It was only 100yrs ago, if you had eggs, you got them from your chickens, for milk, you milked your milk cow, by hand into a bucket, part of the milk, you churned into butter, baked your bread from scratch. It didn't matter if you had money, which lots of folks didn't, you couldnt go to the grocery store and buy alot of things like eggs and milk, because the stores didn't sell perishable things cause no refrigeration. Point is that out of 6000yrs of documented human history, its only in the last 100yrs, that people can live with out having to do anything. 99% of even the basic comforts and convenience, that we not only take for granted but, practically have a total meltdown, at the thought of not having, didn't even exist 100yrs ago, and people worked in order to live, or they died.Everybody had struggles, obstacles to overcome, adversities, etc. True some people went through more than others, but life was hard, dangerous, unpredictable, and veiws, customs, beliefs, goals, etc. were in alot of ways, some good some bad,far different than today. People have conquered, dominated, enslaved, each other, back and forth, there have been complete cultures and ethnic groups, erased from history. All this to say, its good for us, to know who and where we come from and to be proud and where possible, to keep some tradition and culture alive and pass those things to future generations. It can also be like a trap for people with good intentions, and admiral goals, as we can become so engaged with the past, that we neglect the present and future. We may not realize, that regaurdless of anything good or bad that our ancestors experienced, that we as a society, have got to the point, that as individuals, there is nothing in the past or the present that can keep us from accomplishing anything that anybody else can achieve, IF we are willing to put in the effort and work nessacery.
The fact that two men could adopt an indigenous child and hurl racial slurs at him telling him what not to be is sickening. But as soon as somebody says some slur about their preference, then it would be victim mode…
He said ONE of the parents was racist
@@tesmith47 Yes, my point was how despicable to adopt a child of color when you are racist…What a horrible environment to be in.
And reactionaries exist across race, class, gender and sexual orientation…just b/c someone may be from a historically marginalized group doesn’t automatically bestow progressive beliefs on that person…
I had a white Mother my Father was Cherokee/ Kickapoo🪶🐻. With a little Italian-Jewish who sailed for Spain
in 1656 to Texas.) and 10% Senegal Africa. 😂 So I guess I'm a citizen of the world with a short visit on Earth.
🏴☠️ But in my reality the Earth is a prison planet. 🦅
Only two white men could adopt an indigenous child.
Im Mexican American I do believe the we are part of the American natives. Aztecs n Maya's have blood from the American natives. Just look it's me Mexicans we do look like. I live in South Dakota so I've seen many many natives n we look a like. N plus half of the land was part of Mexico Utah Colorado new Mexico Arizona California Texas Oklahoma Wyoming. So we are part of the Mexican Aztecs mayas with native American. We all are brothers so ain't matter where we come from the longest we respect n love each other that's what matters love you all around the world n God bless everyone
I really wanted to watch this show however the volume has a great disparity between the guest(muddy sound) and the Host (very Clear). I do enjoy hearing about other people's journeys of learning their ancestry. I do enjoy you channel. This is a TH-cam problem it prevents me from being able to view many videos with multiple source sound and video, I'm guessing. thanks
...are there any stipends or monetary compensations for mexican descent (blood type mix) people from Casino operating businesses whether here or Mexico?
🤣😂 they couldn’t afford it
Cultures are always borrowing from other cultures. "Mexican" food is indigenous, "tortilla" means something different in Spain. In the US, salsa is more popular than ketchup (ketchup comes from a Chinese term). Potatoes transformed Europe, as did corn (maise), sunflowers, squash, tomatoes, etc. We learn from each other.
The fact that Mexican food has gotten so popular in the US is recent history. Growing up in the 1980s I was introducing the majority of my white friends too authentic Mexican food for the first time in their lives.
@@Itzpapalotl. The 80's Reagan era was when Latin immigration rapidly increased. Ask any Baby Boomer and they'll agree. My old HS didn't even have a soccer team until the Late 80's.
Yeah, I had a Navajo supervisor back in the day and one lunch he brought Navajo tacos for everybody. It was pinto bean based and had a thicker bread-like tortilla.
@@MaryLou913 That sounds hella delicious.
Each season in Creole Seasoning is colour coded for the particular "races" that would make one Creole. Take a guess at who the red pepper or cayenne pepper stands for."
Mexico: The most Spanish speaking country in the world (beats Spain 3-1). Oldest existing Capital (Mexico City) in North America; The size of Western Europe (Together, bigger than Spain, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, etc.); has more pyramids than Egypt (100's); has over 60 ethnic regions with their own Native American languages. Land of many races and ethnicity. Imagine Europe speaking only one language, well, that's possible in Mexico. Research it for assurance.
Ok so speak one of those languages then
I am also of Yaqui decent and strive to find out more about my lineage whenever possible. Thank you for such an informative interview!
I believe that in Arizona, New Mexico , etc.. the Mexican descendant rather claim to be Spaniard descendant, I have experienced that. But in Mexico no one denies our heritage.
Growing up in California as a mixed race person with roots to the Inca Valley one thing that struck me about "Mexicans" is all through my childhood and twenties they were the only people that would ever accept me as if I was one of them. People from the other parts of my roots would always make sure I knew I was not welcome, and even other South Americans would do that (I didn't actually meet anyone else from the high Andes until I was almost 50). But Mexican would always act like I was a Chicano even after I corrected them. And when I've gone to Mexico, Indigenous folks there have asked me "where are you really from?" because I sound like a gringo, but I look and stand like a cousin. My impression is that "Mexican" Mexicans are very aware of and growing increasingly more proud of their Indigenous side. In Peru being indigenous is a bad thing outside of the Andes, but in Mexico everyone seems to try to claim to be at least part Indigenous.
Very interesting and informative. Please keep making videos.
Great insight
When you start to study DNA it gets real complicated real fast. On the most microscopic level it is really simple, Either A, T, C, or G, 1.4billion times in sequence. How that sequence interacts with the chemical soup it is located in has infinate possibilities.
One thing that often gets overlooked is when someone is looking at the demographics of a a global population centered on DNA, and tries to make predictions of who came from where, the most common approach is to look and see the places that now have the highest prevalence of a certain sub-sequence of the entire genome. Yes you can identify a relatedness but "majority" of a sequence in a population does not at all suggest that sequence has been there forever. You cannot necessarly say that because the current population of a place share a relatively close family bond, that is the indigenous people of that place. They could have wiped out the indigenous people 400 years ago and entirely replaced them. Sometimes you can retrieve ancient DNA from skeletal remains to get more information but depending on temperature and water, some locations just do not preserve DNA for a long time. So lets say they found a single skeleton, determined it was between 6 an 8 thousand years old, and was preserved well enough they managed to get DNA from those remains. You wouldnt say everybody there at that time was his family would you? You could not say they werent either. Ok, what if you found two sets of remains in similar condition, ok, that says he wasnt the only one of his family there, but you still cant stretch to call that homeland, can you? I'm just saying that who is there now, says little about who was there 4000 years ago.
Real complicated, ya?
We are all from somewhere else, we are all related at many, many, many points along the way, but in most cases there are no records other than DNA to prove it.
Better to focus attention to who are good neighbors now, and who are nasty, wicked, cruel, unfair, selfish people now. It has always been that way. Do you support one of those bad people cause you get to share in the spoils of their dirty deeds, or to you say no, not cooperating with bad people?
We traded all over turtle Island from sea to sea. The word Mexican is a word the Spanish used to call Aztec, Mayan and other native people. You are a First Nation indigenous man. Be proud of it! Our native men are glorious!
So true
That's not true "mexica" is what the aztecs called themselves.
The spanish called that region "Virreinato de Nueva España"
H@@FrancoSalinas-vb9rt..I stand corrected either way they are native and have more right to be here than any Euro I'm immigrant walking around!
One of the most interesting perspectives I’ve heard on your channel. Love it❤
My friend's father was born in mexico and her mom is German. Her father told her 'we are Spanish, not Mexican'. Turns out when the family got their DNA done, he was right. They had zero indigenous blood. He was purely Spanish. Listen to what the elders say, and get a DNA test. You never know, until you know.
Mexicans are genetically a varied mix of multiple Earth people, but absolutely predominantly Native American and Iberian. We should be proud of both. Our biggest impediment as people is the psychological paralysis by analysis on this topic. Let’s own both sides proudly, develops proper self-term, and move forward.
Very interesting conversation .🙏🇲🇽🇺🇸
I've met people of Mexican descent here in Arizona who fully identified as Hispanic, but looking at them, I could tell they were genetically Navajo because I've met Navajo before. They were surprised when I told them this.
😂🎉😂🎉I guess they never been off their block...
To be Hispanic is a culture.
It includes language, customs, foods, sayings, beliefs, traditions, art, a whole world of music.
So if someone tells you that they are Latino , then they are Latino, because they most identify with that and their parents did.
Be careful telling someone who “they are” because you think you know better.
It’s very offensive. They will tell you who they are culturally.
That’s why you should not tell a black person from Cuba or a Dominican that they are not Latino. They are culturally.
People might look to be a certain thing to you, but they know how they grew up.
@@nz1268 no shit, but I precisely wrote GENETICALLY.
@@nz1268firstly if you get offended if someone call you something that you are not, simply you become as ignorant as that person.
Second, people have to educate themselves to understand what is or who is Hispanic or Latino.
Hispanic is a person who is born in a country who’s mother language is Spanish, and Latino is someone who comes from a country where their language derivers from Latin.
Brazilians are Latinos but they are not Hispanic.
Being Latino or Hispanic has nothing to do with your culture or heritage, there is where you are wrong!
@@agaspiderman921 you probably have never had someone do that.
It’s offensive. Very offensive. Hope you don’t do something stupid like that. If you do, then you are stupid.
White people seem to have a habit of telling other people who they are or are not.
It messes with a person’s identity.
Excellent conversation, thank you.
A very interesting interview. Loved it.
I'm Mexican born in Mexico. Im American. Remember American is not a country. Its a continent.
If you are born in the USA you are a American. It's good to know your ancestors.
Excellent discussion, so many good points were raised and I hope you'll continue this discussion in the future
A lot of Mexicans do honor their Indigenous heritage. We know we can be a mix, but many of us connect easily to our Indigenous ways of life. The U.S. confuses the issue a lot. Everyone has their experience. I find that anyone "searching" has issues with identity. Most who are accepting or comfortable connect easily.
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Eight times out of ten Mexicans and Hispanics in general the mixed ones be it Mestizos, Pardos, Zambos, Castizos, Indo Mestizos, Harnizos, Melungeons, Mulattoes, etc see themselves as better then pure blooded Indios and pure blooded Negroes as well as pure blooded East Asians yeah.
Barely
What indigenous ways of life do you connect with Jorge(George)?
To connect you need to actively practice. Just like Africans you have a singular tribe that you can trace your genetic history back to. That tribe has its own concept of life and rituals. That’s connecting.
No they don't!! They look down on indigenous looking people were as if ur light skin its better so stop the cap
This is a beautiful conversation , everyone has so much truth to tell,I wish this conversations were spoken more in History class 🙏😇💃Our history has been corrupted but the Truth Should Set You Free ❤️🔥
Yes, we are when the spanish first arrived 200 years before the mayflower, the spanish ships had all male occupants, they killed many Indian men and took the woman. So Mexicans are 50% spanish and 50% Indian Mexico was 75 % of America until the Mexican American War.
I'm a 1st generation Mexican American natural born citizen, born and raised in Chicago. I am the youngest of 5, my other 3 siblings were born in Mexico. I and one other brother were born in Chicago. My Father is from the Mexico city, Mexico and my mother is from Michocan, Mexico. On my Father's side my grandfather is a Spainiard who served as Dr. In the Army in Mexico. I served in the United States Army from 1990 to 2009 and my son was born in Germany. My son's mother is Welch, Irish and English but born in the United States. My daughter's mother is 100% Puerto Rican born in Brooklyn, NY. Guys most of us are from somewhere right? We should be proud of our lineage and ancestors and embrace our unique identity. We should however be loyal to our country and its Constitution. We need to force our government to remove from the Census the question that's asks us to state if we're white, latino, black or asian. We are American and we are United. They need to stop dividing us. Sorry for the rant.
What a joke!! I bet you it's idiots like you that claim cultures are ment to be shared?? You have no clue what your ethnicity is!!! You think Puerto Rico is an ethnicity or a group of people???? What kind of education is this??? The hell do they learn up north?
Sorry but the white man's government doesn't represent me. I'm Tigua and we were here before the white man's government and will be here after it collapses.
Danielle, this is probably the most controversial topic you have researched and shared. Thank you Gabriel. And I hope you 2 are able to explore this subject more.
And the word coyote, what a colorful word. My uncle and father had a bar named El Coyote. And when I went to Peru, a future good friend called me cholo and I thought he was trying to start a fight with me. I can go on and on.
I am hoping she starts to delve into the most taboo of ALL subjects on this matter... RACELESSNESS... a unified, species wide, core identity founded on PSYCHOLOGICAL, not spiritual, AWARENESS. THAT, to me, is the creme de la creme of CONTROVERSIAL TOPICS. But, i have been wrong many times in my life, so... Their race[s], THEIR god[s]... THAT matters. When WE use their ideas, RELIGIONS (Latin for, "bind [back] to") and languages we THINK like them even if DEEP inside, our TRUE selves, dont want ANY part of "it". And [y]our kids FOLLOW U[S], following them.
"It is this ideological abrogation to the authority that constitutes the principal cognitive basis of obedience. If, after all, the world or the situation is as the authority defines it, a certain set of actions follows logically.
The relationship between authority and subject, therefore, cannot be viewed as one in which a coercive figure forces action from an unwilling subordinate. Because the subject accepts authority's definition of the situation, action follows willingly."
[Obedience To Authority, Stanley Milgram, 1973]
"A moral point of view too often serves as a substitute for understanding in technological matters."
[Understanding Media: The Extension of Man, Marshall McLuhan, 1964, Ch. 24: Games]
"The "Aryan Majesty" is evidently the Aryan power or state, political, social and religious. It is simply the Aryan greatness and supremacy.
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For the infidels whom it conquers are creatures..., even, as these make it unprosperous, the annihilation of the sickness was necessary to the existence of the majesty. The existence of one involved the annihilation of the other.....
"You hardly utter a sentence of our Romance tongue, without speaking some word which was spoken in the same sense by that ancient people, ten thousand years ago or more, in the mountain-valleys which they first inhabited. You have their idiosyncrasies of thought, the same indelible characteristics of race; for you are their descendants. From them you have your excellencies & your faults, your energy, your vigor of intellect, your philosophical cast of thought, your indomitable resolution, your persistent pursuit of the object you desire to attain; from them the religious leanings & inclinations of your minds; from them your social institutions & relations, & the foundation-stones of your laws, customs, habits; from them all your philosophical & religious doctrines.
They were white men, as we are, the superior race in intellect, in manliness, the governing race of the world, the conquering race of all the races.
They called themselves Arya, the Aryans, the Warlike, or, some think, the Noble."
[Lectures of the Arya, Albert Pike, 1930, Lecture One: The Aryan Race]
Ya'et'eh as a 1 💯% native american apache chiricahua from Mexico and yes many of us so called mexicans are 1 💯% Native american still from Apache nahuatl maya huichol otomi from Mexico is Where most Mexican American descend from
You people are all mix up. The official name of Mexico is “Estados Unido de Mexico “. Aztecs were of the Central Valley, or The DF de Mexico. Even the Aztecs were afraid of the Apaches and didn’t travel into their territory.
Of course, Mexicans are Native to the so-called American continent, it's just that they were colonized by the Spanish conquistadors and adopted their language and some of their cultural attitudes and religion.
Most of us are mixed-race, tho.
Y’all from Asia
“Blacks are the Original “ world wide before any other race even existed we created every civilization yt man has no culture and we taught everyone what they think learned
Everyone is African 😂
ALL of their cultural values.
You’re doing great work young man . I support your factual philosophies. 100
From Los Angeles here by way of Central American parents.
I was asked the other day if I am Native American. I have let my hair grow out and is long - looks like the gentleman speaker’s hair, long and straight on top with curls at the ends. I said no but had me thinking about my grandmother (from mom’s side), who until her death had long two braids and all black. I still have pictures that show her beautiful long hair at 75 years old without gray hair. She always wore it with two braids, everyday of her life. My grandfather looked opposite. He was tall, white skin, with light brown hair. Anyways back on topic - my mom took a dna test and showed - if I remember correctly - 40% Native American, 40% Italian and 20% African . I need to do more research on my mom’s side. This is so interesting. Thank you.
I am from ENA, eastern side of Navajo reservation.
According to my elderly talking, Mexicans were among us. That's why we have clans that are Mexicans, born for Mexicans or mothers are Mexicans.
During the long walk, I understand some Navajo's ran into Mexico to escape the round up.
Not all Mexicans are natives.
The real native's are bare chested. The Mexican mix are hairy, with beard, mustache and hairy arms, etc, etc, etc.
I'm pretty sure other tribes and nation's are alike like Navajo's.
Yes, Mexicans are everywhere.
Those that cross to USA illegally are not true natives.
They claim to be natives.
Another one is, people from Italy are saying they are American Indians.
Just because Columbus made a bo bo, thinking they are in Italy, Columbus thought we were foreign.
There is a difference, natives are navies. Not foreign Indians.
We have foreigns Indians that are dropped off on the natives reservations. Ruining our arts and crafts and businesses.
Assuming they are scoping natives how we live. They cheat on businesses, they run businesses wired. What happened to all the traders, that we traded with? Guess they are gone and the next generation are doing their own things.
It's a never ending story, remember natives have roll numbers and/or census numbers.
Thank you for sharing your heritage and your knowledge. I hope for much success in your search . Salute.
I love this topic. I agree with so much. Thank you for sharing! My father told me that his grandma spoke Huichol. The language did not carry along, as is Spanish, too. It is difficult to practice and continue a foreign language in another community. With ❤ from El Monte, California
This Mexican cultural awareness is in it's infancy stage. As a "Mexican American" in Texas when I made this connection about thirty years ago, it was a totally foreign concept. Glad to see the increased awareness.
There needs to be more awareness of the Nahua and Nahuatl.
So is the recognition of our European roots.
Thank you for giving me and my family something to think about!
This is new to me. But I'm Mexican American born from immigrants here in the USA. Being the first generation here, I guess I wasn't exposed to the hate against Natives among Latinos. I was always taught that as Latinos, we are Mestizo, a mix of Native and European.
It was never a point of pride or shame, just a matter of fact. It's funny that people point fingers at colonization, but are more than happy to allow pop culture's trends to erase their own heritage.
Pretty much
Damn this one was really good. I just learned recently that my grandfather wasnt spanish.
Thanks for this discussion y'all!... important talk. @Danielle: My family roots are in Louisiana! ...though i live in California. But I have native blood on Both sides of my family (great grandparents era) I met the woman who did the voice for Disney's Pocahontas some years back & one of the very first questions she asked me is "Excuse me, but do you have native blood/Ancestry?" So then i told her what i know of my Native Indigenous ancestry. My africanized blood features are more predominate, but apparently she noticed the structure of my cheek bones & face & recognized it!! ^_^ I was pleased... We had a great conversation. I am VERY proud of my roots & want to connect more with them. And NO i don't agree how Disney depicts other cultures even if the movies are fun... Lot of stereotyping etc.
85% of the African Slave Trade went to Latin America. Only 5% came to the U.S...just a little more than went to Mexico. Latin America is just like Anglo America, except that the Spanish/Portuguese/French (Yes, French is Latin too...and Italians who were the first Latins) came to the Americas without their families so mixed with the Natives and Africans much more to make a triracial group of people with varying degrees of mixture depending on the country. By the way, La Bamba was an African slave song from Veracruz, Mexico.
I agree with what you said. I think when it comes to the USA people forget that when the USA banned the importation of enslaved people that breeding farms was already well establish for the internal human trade along with continue birth rates among those enslaved and free blacks.
@@EyeOfTheWatcher oh brother 😅 where’s your source for the breeding farm? Which academic university has proven the breeding farm theories?
Decades ago Casey Kasam told the history of La Bamba.
that and on google it says that 80% of mexicans are mixed race...but they seem to deny it a lot or at least online they do
i dont understand why we cant talk about a subject without including trans-atlantic slavery.
yes, Mexico had slaves. no, they arent particularly good at embracing that aspect of their culture.
but this is a video about Native Mexicans. it’s ok to have that conversation without paying deference to a completely separate issue.
im sure if u request a video on Afro-Mexican culture she will make one.
You can't directly apply Anglo history to Hispanic history. Hispanics have a multicultural heritage shaped by Catholicism, while Anglos historically maintained separation from indigenous peoples and enslaved Africans.
Mexico is much like the United States in that colonizers came here from many different countries and the indigenous people were already here when they did. Add to that, they brought Africans over here. There are Mexicans with African roots, too. Both countries are melting pots!
The Mexica people are from this land. Their cousins were driven up into the northern forests on the east coast and were planning to return to Mexico when the settlers came to Virginia and disrupted their plans to return home.
it would have been nice to have this conversation with someone who was raised in a traditional Native household & community.
converts are often overzealous & idealize the experience rather than providing a more objective viewpoint.
this guy doesnt represent a traditional indigenous lifestyle, he represents the elements he picked & chose to emphasize as an adult thru the lens of someone raised in not just a European American household, but one with extra baggage of their LGBTQ identity which, as he stated, was given priority over the indigenous traditions he attempted to kearn later in life.
postcolonial studies are boring. it’s the dead horse that continues to be beaten to advance the concept of racial grievance.
if we’re trying to study indigenous cultures in the 21st century, talk to ppl who were actually raised within the culture.
a Californian who is racially indigenous but culturally as Anglo as it gets shows us nothing about indigenous cultures as they navigate the challenges of the 21st century.
if being indigenous is just a springboard to feel aggrieved the entire point is missed.
i’d rather learn about the indigenous cultures themselves, not just another guy pushing SJW narratives. this is uninformative & boring for anyone that has read an 8th grade American History textbook.
His experience being from a closed adoption is uniquely difficult, and I think everyone deserves to know their family story-which is what my channel focuses on.
Id love to talk with someone raised in a traditional Native household. Both experiences are important!
Well, Gabriel is working on reconnecting, I'll give him that. I'm not keen on adopting any terminology, but the important thing is he is trying. I have some agreement with you, the Native communities should try to avoid western gender terminology, as many Native cultures of North America, have a two spirt (male, female and one who sees/fits both genders) concept already.
im not discounting his experience or his right to know his ancestral roots.
his *personal* story is very interesting.
the issue is that it is presented as a Native Mexican viewpoint when culturally he is technically neither & that is reflected in the emphasis on colonial & postcolonial grievances & less on what it’s actually like to have been born & raised an indigenous Mexican.
Yeah I was thinking we were going to hear from someone who grew up with the native American culture.
@chokloconqueso8446 This also brings up the border crossed us argument bc i believe it did for mexicans culturally, but im not sure about SW natives. Bc during and after, there was brutal warfare between the two. Which i think is more proof that we are a separate people but perhaps possibly converged in an alternate timeline many pueblo and Taos people proir to US annexation. Who knows.
Many people of Mexican descent (myself included) have indigenous ancestry. These indigenous bloodlines are from Mexico. For example, my great grandmother was 1/8 Huichol from Zacatecas. Just because this indigenous bloodline is not from a formally recognized tribe of the United States does not make this a lie..
An indigenous person of the Americas IS technically Native American. American means literally of the Americas -- i.e., Latin America, which includes North America south of the Rio Grande, the islands of the West Indies, and all of South America; and Anglo-America, which includes Canada and the United States.
The term American has been appropriated by the United States.
"America" is named after Italian map-maker Amerigo Vespucci. He was an Immigrant colonizer. Lost, like all them he didn't know where he was. Indigenous south of the border seem to assign this value to the word "American" I don't quite understand. Why would you care if US recognized you or not? It wouldn't help you. Your land claims are down there in your native area. The US has no authority to recognize you. You would legally petition the government that colonized you. You want to force your own gov to deal with you and force them to formally, legally "recognize" you as the native indigenous people of THAT country. Then you can pursue remedies and reparations for say, your own gov allowing Mayorkas to come in an put immigrant trails and camps right through your tribal land ruining crops, water and bringing their violence and drugs. The tribal chiefs of Darien Gap went to Biden to get stopped and got nothing. US has no formal relations with them. The Embera say Panama and Columbia don't help them. That's where their problem lies, with those governments, not America.
@@redpaint8199 Just making a semantic argument. The injustices that the federal government has committed against you all --from the genocide and displacement of tribes (before and during Jackson's administration) to all of the environmental racism you've endured... and violence... the ongoing b.s. is abhorrent. It's wrong.
I found this conversation by chance and will respectfully present my opinion based on my personal experience. In Mexico, as in the Mexican culture, there are several social groups that claim to belong to one group or another by choice or because they have no other option considering their geographical location or physical features. However, fortunately for me, my entire family, parents, and I come from the social group that has zero concern or worries about needing to prove or to know the level of European or Indigenous origins we have. We are Mexican, and that is all that matters as we truly understand that most of us have varying degrees of different racial DNA. Most Mexican people who have built this country through the past five centuries do not concern themselves with this division of roots.
Danielle, I’m so enjoying your interviews. Each one continues to reveal so many hidden gems to our history whether good or bad. Gabriel thank you for breaking things down and explaining them in a way that’s understandable and with such patience. At the end of each video I’m like that’s it, I wonder what’s next🤦🏾♀️😂
Wow, thank you! You always give me such great ideas though 😅😅😅
10:18 I think he mixed up "Peninsulares" and "Criollos". It makes no sense that "Criollos" were the ones born in the Iberian Peninsula, and "Peninsulares" (literally, "from the Peninsula") the ones born in Mexico...
I did! No excuses on my part.
I didnt catch it even 😂
I caught it and thought everything I knew was false. Thanks for bringing it up as well.
@asturiasceltic3183
this has me actually laughing out loud :D
I agree Criollos were born in the Latin American country itself. Peninsulares were born and raised from Spain
How much they charge to this DNA test
I went to a high school in Wisconsin with both Mexican and U.S. Native Americans. I'm 45, so pre-internet and Black American, I was amazed how both my Native American peers in Highschool and my Mexican peers had such similar features. I wondered at that time if there were some type of connection, because we were not taught this in any text book. It was during my own personal journey to learn about my people and the transatlantic slave trade throughout the Americas that i started learning the history of Indigenous people throughout the Americas.
@msvonmic__I will always consider myself part native/european those who give me a puzzled look clearly knows nothing of Mexican history..
I have a very intelligent Black college-educated friend and he was in his forties when he went to an American Indian museum when he had a eureka moment that most Latinos were actually American Indians. It seems to be a secret the government guards well, especially through misinformation.
In your journey, did you learn about slavery other than the transatlantic variety? Like more Africans were shipped to the Middle East by the Arab Muslims than
ever came to America? That many more died enroute even though the trip was much shorter, because they were treated so brutally? That the males were
castrated and women were sex slaves, so there was never much of a black population generated there? That Arab Muslims also kidnapped 1-2 million white
Europeans living in coastal areas? That slavery was worldwide throughout history, and people mostly enslaved others of their own race? That more Africans
were shipped to the Caribbean and S. America than here? That a minority of whites in the South even owned slaves? That Native Americans owned slaves?
The first person to own a slave in America was black?
@@liz6cats280 actually I am aware about Arabs that enslaved Africans and their cruelty towards them as this went on hundreds of years prior to the transatlantic slave trade. As well as the slavery that occurred within the continent amongst Africans and still occurring, this went on again hundred of years prior to the transatlantic slave trade. I'm also aware that during the transatlantic slave trade that Brazil got more slaves than any other country or island. That the Caribbean Islands received more African slaves than the US. That Natives own slaves, specifically the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, and Creek tribes. Europeans in this land castrated the men. Women Masters treated Black male slaves the worst and there were breeding farms as well. I'm aware of all these things. My response is specifically to this video where I am expressing intentional neglect by our educational systems, specifically Milwaukee Public Schools because this is where I live, that we weren't educated about anything but selective U S. History. It is our jobs as adults to educate ourselves about our history and others to help reduce our own ignorance and prejudices.
@@spy_b0t.743 we are not taught about anything other than U S history in public schools and even that is selective. So as adults, it is our responsibility to educate ourselves.
Africans in America were detribalized also! Great word!
The Irish were detribalized😅😅😅😅
They're from Africa nobody cares
There's no such thing as African Americans copper colored people in America are indigenous to America we built this country
@@Richard-gp5tg not the same condition. You were still white and on the bottom of list of importance European intelligence when you came to America. Do your research. Not the same thing.You weren't considered less than a man or woman when you came in through Ellis Island as immigrants or when ever.
I am grateful to God that we as Foundational Black Americans are detribalized it is currently an unuseful and hateful act
I am puerto rican, Portuguese and African American. I get alot of hate for the fact that I was raised by my black side. I have little to no knowledge of my Latino side. My grandfather was African American and ward of state. He was raised by a white family. My grandma Portuguese and black. My grandma knew Portuguese but all those traditions died with her. My dad's side is the Puerto rican side and I met that side a bit later and never fully felt apart of it. I'm so saddened that I don't know my roots. What I've learned is through history. It's been a rough road. I am rather light skinned. So when I say I'm black I'm met with jokes questioning my identity. That the only black thing about me is my hair. The colorism over colonialism has always been there in my life. This video has resonated with me.
Hello, I am Black, Italian, Portuguese and Native American
Latin/Latino is the language spoken by the Romans. It's not a "Side" and not your heritage. Maybe you mean Latin American but Latin American is not a Race so look for a better definition.
Every person on earth is mixed , except the Africans from africa. Mexicans are different mixtures, of natives & Europeans. There are different tribes of natives Americans in Mexico,not just Aztec. During the European invasion different kinds of Europeans arrived not just the Spanish or English. So Mexicans are an Admixture of Indians and European. We are not exactly a 50/50 mix. We can have 80/20 mix , I'm 70 % native American ,20% Spanish, and 10% a few other different peoples.
@@Erik-ct6ug amen! thanks for this tidbit of truth!
Your Mom was Sephardic Jews, all from Portugal /Spain what was Iberia. You said African only because of the blackness of the Jews of Portugal and not because an African slave was captured in Ghana. If you want know your mother’s history read this book, Jews and Muslim in British Colonial America. For most Americans, the story of their nation’s origins seems safe, reliable and comforting. We were taught from elementary school that the United States was created by a group of brave, white Christians drawn largely from England who ventured to these shores in search of religious freedom and the opportunity to fulfill their own destiny. Recent revisions to this idealized and idyllic narrative have never seriously questioned its basic tenets. So although we now recognize some of the contributions made by Africans to America’s success and feel perhaps a heightened sense of regret, remorse and even guilt over the destruction of American native cultures, we never have had much reason to doubt the basic premise of the story. Our founding mothers and fathers were white, Christian and British.
In this work, we present a series of Colonial documents, contemporary firsthand accounts, records, portraits, family genealogies and ethnic DNA test results which fundamentally challenge the national storyline depicting America’s first settlers as white, British and Christian. We postulate that many of the initial colonists were of Sephardic Jewish and Muslim Moorish ancestry. Usually arriving as crypto-Jews with their religious adherence disguised, and crypto-Muslims, these immigrants served in prominent economic, political, financial and social positions in all of the original colonies.
The evidence in support of this radical new narrative begins with an examination of the British colonial companies organized in England to bring settlers to North America and exploit the natural riches believed to be there.
Of course, both Spain and France had already made forays into North America, founding St. Augustine and exploring parts of the coastline as far north as Newfoundland, though their activities as foreign powers are given short shrift in our Anglo-centric version of the birth of America. What is even less frequently mentioned regarding these Spanish and French settlements and voyages is that many of the colonists and sailors were of Sephardic Jewish and Muslim Moorish descent. Several of those aboard Christopher Columbus’s first voyage in 1492 and famously even Columbus (Colon) himself were of Jewish ancestry. They were Jews or crypto-Jews.
One historian of Inquisitional Spain and biographer of Christopher Columbus, Simon Wiesenthal, notes that “throughout the sixteenth century the movement of the Marranos to the New World had continued,” and that “after the expulsion of the Jews and flight of the Marrano element, it was the turn of the Moriscos to serve as scapegoats for the ills of society.” The same writer estimates that, all told, Spain lost one and one-half million people as a consequence of the “purification” of its population of Jews and Moors. “Many occupations were virtually abandoned,” he writes. “Trade, the crafts, and the sciences languished. Moreover, since these branches of endeavor had been the domain of Jews and Moriscos, they had become in themselves suspect. Spaniards had to be extremely careful about entering any of these fields.... Spanish life as a whole was the worse for these injustices.... Spain was swamped with fortune hunters from all parts of Europe ... but they could not revive the Spanish economy. Just as the irrigation canals dug by the Moors in Andalusia were allowed to silt up, so the very channels on which the country’s health depended fell into neglect.”
We document that Spain’s loss was Britain’s gain. Beginning with the initial planning, organization and promotion of the first British colonial efforts, Sephardic Jews and Muslim Moors were present as navigators, ship captains, sailors, metallurgists, cartographers, financiers and colonists. Among these we find Joachim Ganz, Simon Ferdinando, Walter Raleigh, John Hawkins, Humphrey Gilbert, Richard Hakluyt Sr. and Jr., Francis Drake, Martin Frobisher and Abraham Ortelius.
The first and second British colonies in North America, Virginia and Massachusetts were provisioned, funded and peopled by persons of Sephardic Jewish and Muslim Moorish descent. Current genetic genealogical studies of the Appalachian descendants of these early colonists demonstrate that they carried DNA haplotypes (male or female lineages) and genes from Sephardic, Ottoman and North African founders. Further, these early North American colonists often bore straightforwardly Jewish and Muslim surnames. Attested are Allee, Aleef, Sarazin, Moises, Bagsell, Haggara, Ocosand and even Saladin. Indeed, given the patently non-Christian backgrounds of so many settlers up and down the Atlantic coastline of the American colonies, it becomes difficult to ignore the significant declarations of religious tolerance inscribed in the U.S. Constitution.
Even (and particularly) New York, founded by the Dutch as New Amsterdam, was heavily peopled by Sephardic Jews and Muslim Moors. The presence of persons from these ethnic affiliations on the governing boards of the Dutch West and East India Companies is no accident. They included Jonathan Coen (Cohen) and Cornelius Speelman (another classic Jewish name). Other New Amsterdam, and later New York, residents were Jacob Abrahamsen and Denys Isacksen. We present contemporaneous testimony suggesting that even the leading Knickerbocker families of the New York colony -the van Cortlandts, Philipses, van Rensselaers, De La Nos and De Lanceys - were of Sephardic ancestry.
This fresh look at Colonial American genealogies and settler lists presents for the first time in one source the Spanish, Hebrew, Arabic and Jewish origins and meaning of more than 5,000 surnames, the vast majority of them widely assumed before to be sturdy British family names of ancient bearing. Many of our name etymologies plainly contradict the standard reference works. The decipherment of surname history is an involved subject, one that can extend over centuries of transformation in several countries and require knowledge of a multitude of languages. For instance, in order to understand the sea change suffered by the ancient Jewish name Phoebus to English Phillips (and Scottish Forbes and Frobisher), with stages along the way as Pharabas and Ferebee and Furby, one must have an appreciation for the synthesizing religions of the Roman Empire, including the Cult of Mithras and naming practices of Greek-speaking congregations of Jews, as well as conversion of Berber populations to Judaism, conquest of Spain by Berber armies in 710 and subsequent development of Judeo-Arab culture, not to mention the medieval French, Norman, Anglo-Saxon and Scottish linguistic, orthographic and social filters the surname passed through until it became enshrined in modern times as “good ole English” Phillips.