Do Creoles Reject Blackness?
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In New Orleans, We Creoles come in all shape, colors complexions, phenotypes, and hair textures. In our community, the culture here has a very large African retention. Something kin to the Caribbean.
@Mimi-ht6xr Yeah ya right. But has changed since the Katrina exodus and through the new white Gentrification. The Africans mostly live in the Parish and in Kenner. There are lot more Hondurans and Garifuna in the East and on the West Bank. Now I'm from the 7th Ward. There are plenty of people whose family's lineage starts in the 1700s and 1800s still liave in the area, including the Treme and 6th ward. And they keep up the same cultural practices and still Catholic, maybe with a different twist. But the roots are there.
@@Mimi-ht6xrI'm from the 7th Ward where the Creole culture lives and thrives. HARDHEAD 4 Life. In Treme and the 6th Ward It's a lineage base culture where many can trace their family to the 1700s and 1800s. When and where did you go in New Orleans? Not that many Cajuns were here anyways. They're mainly deep in Bayou Country and Acadiana and Atchafalaya.
@@Mimi-ht6xr sooooo let me guess Creole isn't dark skinned, and dark skinned means so called African to You???? Because the Indigenous( Amerikkkan N3gr0)are also dark skinned, tha BOOT is much more than NOLA! Born in tha BOOT, and raised in H-Town!
@@Mimi-ht6xr
Cajuns NEVER were much in New Orleans.
Creoles in New Orleans always looked all jinds of ways the only thing is the lighter straighter haired ones were often colorist
@@tonytouch9751 Say lil brudda. I ain't tell you nuttin.
I agree with him 100% when he says we don't talk about the enslavement the indigenous people enough. We also don't talk about the five nations that enslaved Africans enough either
We don't talk about when enslaved Africans ran away from their Native American masters in Louisiana
The so-called Africans in America were not Africans. The cacuasiian just lumped the American Indians in to one group and said they came from Africa when they were already here before the native American,and Caucasian people.
I loooooved this conversation. As a dark skinned person, with Creole ancestry, I have been reconnecting. My cousins welcomed me with open arms.
They will tease about how dark you is, but the dark Creole teases them for being light! Enjoy your Fam Bam because it's All in good spirit, and Fam Bam is just that in tha BOOT! Ride, or Die! ✌🏾
@@pirate55hitinc.26 the dark creoles don't do that they usually they black sheep literally
Look up Dr. Christophe Landry’s work on “muted Creoles.”
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You said as a dark-skinned person Creole people can come dark skin, remember some of the indigenous Indians were darker than dirt okay and those people have this white wash from my mind thinking everybody that's light skin is mixed race and therefore you can't be mixed race cuz you're dark that isn't it mythological thinking
People have to understand that when a person says they are Creole,they are not denying part of their origin,but they are saying that their family tree has several branches.
Yes. But they are black people
That part. Why i got called anti blk ans self hateful because i identify as blasian 😂😂😂 like how tf im anti blk but also referring to myself as a type of blk mixture 😂😂😂😂 like makes no sense
@InfamousTing-tu5wq No You are Full of crap..99% of the time Black's like you DONT WANT TO BE CALLED BLACK..its because you want to really embrace being so.ething else because you see only being Black as inferior.
You are doing great work We need to end this false narrative of everyone fitting into neat little boxes of Black or White and never the two will meet.
We should celebrate our history and you are a great educator.
Culture is an identity. Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans have African heritage the same as Black Americans but they have a different identity that they celebrate. Specifying their culture isn't a rejection of African history but the identity and culture for themselves.
Just because my heritage is Mediterranean in Europe doesn't mean I identify as "White". I have an identity I grew up in and that is what I see myself as. I am "whitish" more than "White."
My family is Creole on my mother’s side, and we identify as black. My grandmother and great grandmother actually spoke creole as well as others in the family. I know that some people do reject being black, but I think it would be weird to say you’re a Louisiana Creole and do so. We definitely have a range of skin tones in my family with most people being dark skinned or darker skinned. I am of the lighter skin.
🎯 that Particular Part! My Fam Bam is the same! Born in tha BOOT, and raised in H-Town! ✌🏾
In Spanish cultures blackness was taboo, people were encouraged to shame their black/African ancestors and elevate the white ones. The mentality is still there 2024. Very rare does Spanish speaking people admit to having African blood lines but yet their daily culture IS AFRICAN! 🤷 Kinda screwed up if you ask me and pittyful too. I enjoy being African American with a diverse background and a STRONG sense of self, pride and dignity!
Yep
Yes and originally Creoles were Europeans born in this country as opposed to being born in the latter, particularly France. Later they referred to everyone born here in the US ‘Creole’ in LA, MI, and whatever other area that was in the Louisiana Purchase. It’s why you also see Whites sharing in the Creole culture despite having any African heritage. My ex’s mother would go to a Creole parade each year and said there were lots of White creoles that come each year and most there are White or look White at least. She’s multiracial/Black Creole.
@@MaryLou913 We call Europeans Cajuns not Creole in tha BOOT if it's in their bloodline, or Frenchmen! Yet some Frenchmen are darker than Cajuns!✌🏾
I love being Creole. My family is from Opelousas, Louisiana as well.❤ I am definitely Black too.
You are Creole
You are not black
Big up to Opelousas!
@@Unambiguous_bloodline-society You can clearly see she's blk.
@@Unambiguous_bloodline-society You can clearly see that she's bk.
@@Unambiguous_bloodline-society You can clearly see that she's b
This is amazing that you’re doing content like this. We Creoles are often overlooked or misunderstood when it comes to who we are and what we identify as. We are a mix of many things but many of us still identify as African American. I am proud to be mixed and to be black. 😊
From what I understand is, Southeastern Creole American People are a modern cultural group, some say they are a modern ethnic group who come from mixed Black, Native, French or Spanish ancestry, customs and blended languages. Most have predominantly French and Spanish ancestry, but some have a lot of Black ancestry. This group inherited some foods, customs, music, fashion etc. from regional Native, Black, Spanish or French cultures.
Some of the lighter skinned Creoles have displayed some anti-Black sentiments toward the darker toned Creoles with Black, Native or both. If they pass themselves off as a mixed cultural ethnic group, they should be inclusive to everyone who comes from this background. Any Creoles shouldn't act as a gatekeeper to each other or others, because you are a blend of many people and cultures, and don't own these customs, foods etc..
Much of what you said is a complete misunderstanding what people think Louisiana Creoles are:
Common misconceptions( My father was a Louisiana Creole from Southwest Louisiana.)
1. Thinking Louisiana Creoles is some kind of formulaic mixed race people of French, Spanish, African and Native. This myth was perpetuated by Anglo Americans who were bothered by the fact that people who they deemed to be different "races" in their culture called themselves Creoles.
2. Thinking Louisiana Creoles historically were only an ethnic identity belonging to people in Louisiana who were non-White. Th ancestors of Louisiana Creoles are as diverse as any other ethnic group. All your ancestors could be from Europe. All your ancestors could be Africans. All your ancestors could be a combination of all those. What unites is shared languages, religion, foodways, music, history and genealogy.
@@Rqs79 I think I mentioned part 2, lol
I’m Curious When Grants or Money for AA’s is Available What Box do They Check ✅ My Family Has Creole Ancestry. 🧐Just Saying 😊
Chile! Some? Lighter skinned Creoles overwhelmingly display a LOT of anti Blackness. “I’m not Black. I’m Creole.” They’ll tell ya in a minute. Whether they are indeed Black or not! Some of them being light skinned but with Afro centric features. 😂😂😂 I’m not Black. I’m Creole. They’ll say that. Being of obviously significant African lineage. Clearly Black. Still saying they’re not Black. Creole communities were overwhelmingly colorist as well.
@@debdeb9880 Right!!! Will they still be checking other??? 😂😂😂
I grew up in foster homes, but I knew as a teen that my family were creole when I really started to focus on my maternal grandmother Little Mamma (F. Chamblis)! The funny thing is, no one ever talked about it when I finally did grow up and move to where most of my family resided once they left Mississippi! So, for the most part, I forgot to keep trying to find more information on my family! I became uninterested since I am rather dark skin amongst most of my family members. Also, I am the only sibling with this complexion (2 are dark skin because of our father), and I have only a few dark skin 1st cousins! I guess you could say that I stopped believing that I was Creole a long time ago despite people, whom I've crossed paths with, constantly asking me where I'm from! It feels like I can't escape the stares from my people (Black peoples); especially females! I am older now and finally at peace with it all! Now, I consider myself to be a FBA (Foundational Black American)!
Youre a beautiful complexion. Being black is awesome.
@@mistersomerton Thank you so much!
I never understood the term FBA bc technically that term more actually describes ppl from Ayiti/Kiskeya/Hispaniola as she is the oldest colony in America.
Sorry, but stop ✋🏾 feeding into BS! Because in tha BOOT( Louisiana)there's plenty Dark skinned Creole that don't speak English at all, and Louisiana is way bigger than NOLA! 🤦🏾🤷🏾
@@DarkFae888 Maybe, but it doesn't describe the Amerikkkas! It's for the descendants of the Indigenous of Amerikkka that's known as so called Blacks, or African Amerikkkans that suffered enslavement in their OWN country! Yet I do understand your comment only half of the island of Hispaniola even considers themselves so called Black! 🤔
It's good to see my old college professor from San Francisco State University again. He's a damn good teacher and I really enjoyed his class.
I love you cousin. He is right. No one has a right to label anyone and try to make them feel like they don’t belong.
Unity.❤
♥️we are all related!
False.
He is correct we are culture barriers. Lumbee people historically reject "blackness" because of the "one drop rule" which would mean to embrace, or acknowledge it would legally nullify our legal rights to this land. That avoidance has unfortunately been passed down. I took it upon myself to open my gate to all my relations WHILE standing ten toes down on our heritage and culture🖤❤️💛🤍
So how do you think the so called Black Communities feel being the descendants of the Indigenous of this Land, and stripped of their true BIRTHRIGHTS?? While You get to choose, but our ancestors were enslaved because of being Dark skinned Indians with NO so called African admixtures! Do Your Real research, and Truly understand how some of the Lighter Shade Indians 5old-out the Darker 1's before the plantations! Because they couldn't beat them in warfare, and sided with the Europeans! 🤦🏾🤷🏾
As a South African, this sounds very similar to my own culture, which is known as coloured in my country, or mixed in America and other places outside of Africa. I'm so glad I came across your content. It's quite fascinating.
Yes! But we have a name for our mixed race just like you guys which he failed to mention. We call them “gens de couleur. “
@@bigpynk
That's not for mixed race, that's just for any person of color who was free
@@bigpynkThe similarities are fascinating to me. You guys spoke French. I think maybe some of you still do. I'm not sure. We speak Afrikaans, which is a mixture of Dutch and African languages. We still speak it which is part of the reason our culture has remained intact. You guys get called anti black by black Americans, just for being who you are. We get called anti black by black Americans, just for being who we are. Black people in South Africa couldn't care less. South Africa has no one drop rule. No one here is obsessed with bullying us into blackness or accusing us of not wanting to be black. Black people here understand us very well. We understand them very well. There is mutual acceptance and respect. Of course we have other problems, but nothing related to our identity or any attempts to get us to erase or redefine it. I think that it's quite tragic that you guys have lost so much of your culture. I'm not trying to offend anyone. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe I'm just ignorant. I apologize if that is the case. It just seems to me that much of Creole culture has been swallowed up by black American culture and Creole people have been one dropped into blackness. That is quite sad. Not because there is something wrong with being black. What is wrong is that people are expected to deny their true identity to appease people who see their own culture as the only culture that is valid, or important, or acceptable. I see the same thing happening to biracial celebrities and politicians like Sage Steel, Barrack Obama, Kamala Harris, Alicia Keys, etc. All of these people have to deny their non black side to appease toxic black supremacy.
@@elroyswarts2337 This a great perspective. Im a fully Black Caribbean woman. I think because in America race is literally at the forefront of every facet of American life( political, educational, financial, social, class etc) that people had no choice but to conform to the boxes that the people in power placed them in. The brutalities of the transatlantic slave trade also set the tone for a lot of what we see with race and identity. The dehumanizing of Black people after slavery for 150+ created a survivalist mindset where people didnt have a chace to fully embrace that aspect of life. There is also much psychological trauma which led to people not embracing their true identity, people being colorist and suffering from self hate just to be approved of. There are so many nuances to American identities that is connected to these historical experiences. Loss of culture also plays a major role in all of this.
@@CaribbyanDoll-xoxo I agree with you. I think that there is definitely a lot of trauma, but that applies to what has happened in South Africa too. Everything that black Americans have experienced has shaped their identity into who they are today. It has shaped their view of race as they have it today. That is also true about South Africa and what we have experienced in South Africa. Both of us have our own experiences and our own history. Both are equally as valid. Both should be respected. It is wrong to try to bully others into accepting your view of things when you haven't had the exact same experience and you haven't suffered the exact same trauma.
Brought tears to my eyes witnessing your connection being made in real time ... I grew up around and on the edge of so much of this culture.
One thing I know; I'm 100% everything that is in my blood . Whatever any government, or other entity claims on folks cannot change that!
Watched various artists be denied their identity by tribes when they were only 50% 🙄 ... govt want to impose authenticity labels/or not!
Keep your community ALIVE ❤
👏 👏 👏
Oh Jesus give us a Break..lol
I love this video, particularly how Andrew highlights the connections between Louisiana Creole people and Mexicans and Latin cultures as a whole.
As far as the whole subject of Louisiana Creole identity, the best way I've heard it described was on a video by Creole Lady Marmalade where she explained that Creoles are essentially the Latinos of the Francophone world.
From that perspective, it's easy to see parallels with Spanish speaking Latinos, Brazilians, and American Creoles (Louisiana, Haiti, etc). People who are often mixed but with strong ties to Latin cultures.
PS have you looked into St. Louis French Creole culture?
Mexicans are an admixture of indigenous and many nationalities, European the primarily and of or pure European. What people seem to forget is that Mexico saw quite a wave of Spanish immigrants after many Spaniards fled Spain after the Franco regime came to power.. Selma Hayek's maternal grandparents might've been one of them and assume the same thing for Martin Sheen's father.
Another great post! I can't describe the feelings that I get from watching your podcasts. You and your guest bring out the most hidden secrets, missing history and tangled information for all to view. Also, I like that you include movies into your research. As I tell my students "the literature holds the culture" the books, movies and songs will tell you who we are, when we arrived and where we are going. Movie suggestion: 'Feast of All Saints", a mini -series featuring the connections, and relationships of the Louisiana French landowners and their free children.
Please, don't allow any negative ninnies to block your blessings in doing your work. Don't be saddened when big names don't recognize you, even celebrities or their agents can be close-minded or jealous. Please, get that Johnny Cash wife story done, some years ago i found out that we may be related.
Until then, keep up the great anthropological work
That made my whole day! 😊😊😊♥️
I am a French creole from Louisiana. My story is like yours. We have many shades. We are an old creole family who also spoke French. The Ricard family. I look white, green eyes and all, there is some Irish. MY dad was blue eyed blond hair and very very white skin. He had a sister who moved to California and like Lola, never went back! She and her husband have tanned skin but passed for white and as I found my cousins they were all told all their life they were white. We look and wonder how did they pass. We did dna, we found we were directly from France, 2 Ricard brothers. One married an African and the Creole was born. One of the most shocking things we found is that family members who were whiter but creole owned plantations and even owned slaves. One of them a book was written about. Cyprein Ricard, one of the largest land owners in his time owned slaves, he was creole. The French blood was kept in the most pride here. They were raised calling themselves Frenchman. I was as well. I have to convince people I am black. My mother's family was pretty close to the same. I know in my family racism was a biggie back in the grandparents days. They did shun darker skninned people even family. Its shameful. I do my best to raise.my kids and grandkids to just be you. We are all colors in the family today...
Teddya916 • 😮 I viewed your site picture and you look very much like you are white but I am saying to make a point that Those enslavers Creoles we're able to do that because they were viewed as white and pass themselves off as white so they could live as white people and being a slave owner was a way to make money that was a large career for a lot of white males in the early part of the centuries in America by owning plantations of raising tobacco, sugar cane, and other crops and later on like corn and cotton. Your ancestors were very much white looking if they look like you and mostly white but kept it in the family by
marrying other ambiguous in looks appearing or being mostly white and their children coming out looking and most likely more white than their parents like you because they are adding more and more at that time is much white as they can in their lineage by marrying closely related to white people others like them.😮 And I'm just saying that I am glad that you're able to step forward like a lot of people of the Creole that would take a position of either black or white by claiming the side that they were choosing to live in because you had a lot Creole people that look like you that insists on being called Black because that was all that was given to them to be listed as especially by the one drop a black blood makes you black rule which is ridiculous but that's the way it was set up by white people that wanted to keep their blood as they saw it pure and those that look like you they were afraid that they were getting into their bloodlines because they couldn't tell the difference from ones that look like you from what they considered mixed race from their European no African blood in their race according to them.
But African-Americans could tell because we were the one giving birth to those mixed race children forced on black women by rape. And then they raise them up to a period where then they were taken the children from them and either sold into slavery or sent away to colored schools or where they was given to learn a trade or apprenticeship by some of these white male parent who had some love for that child that they can see resemble them and was closely white looking.
I'm creole as well with similar family background. Just curious why you want to prove you're black when you're Creole?
@@semiramisbonaparte1627
😒🙄 Get this black sister on here asking another sister why she want to prove that she black? Why do you want to prove that you're native American, French, Spanish, English and Irish and brag about all their culture and contributions here but you won't talk about how they stole Indian lands ran them off their land s and had them walk all the way to the other side of the US on the trail of tears dying of the European diseases of syphilis and you won't mention how the Spanish sold black people as a bought animals Creoles was looked upon as black because your skin color is darker even the yellow light skinned ones like my mother was considered but don't want to mention anything about your African-American blood too that is why they're on here talking about people with African-American blood mixed with other ethnicity that was forced by rape dragging another group of people from their continent to work and clean and build on this stolen land and continent, free labor lives lost and children sold by their blood sweat and tears and you seem like they are a disease by questioning her why is she out here trying to prove that she has black blood. 🤨 Why aren't you??!
@@semiramisbonaparte1627 I am so confused? Creole is not Black? or of multicultural ancestry?
Yet another fascinating video. Please keep researching and making videos.
You watched a 42 minute video in 5 minutes? 🤔
😂 @@christopherwellman2364
Good morning from Copperhill Tn. The humming birds have arrived in East Tennessee. 😊
I'm Creole, which means I'm of mixed blood, Black, French, Spanish, German, Irish and 2% Jewish. I've never called myself only black. I'm mixed.
You CANNOT identify yourself as Black at all - you're NOT Black. You have too many racial mixes, and most of it is European. Therefore, you can never be Black. Claim your European heritage, and hold fast to that.
My SIL is from the DR & I know she definitely doesn’t see herself as black or mixed.
@@samanthab1923 If your SIL is mixed-race, she is NOT Black - period.
@@samanthab1923 so if she's not mixed (like 75 percent of the dr) lol then what is she 🤣
@kevin3342 so fascinating! most Black Americans are “mixed” (ok, most Americans, period). I saw this interesting post on Reddit, a pretty light skin guy took a dna test but was maybe 90% various African tribes. The whole genotype vs phenotype thing. He was darker than me but not much. But as close to “100%” indigenous African as I’ve seen on a test.
Love this discussion and it was very helpful. I will be buying the professor's book.
Well not all of us are mixed/multiracial. This is a common misconception. And there are more admixtures than French/Spanish including Irish, German, Scottish, Italian, etc. I’m predominantly African but I refuse to ignore my heritage to appease to American culture. Therefore I identify as Creole.
I actually think it’s ridiculous to continuously focus on being mixed or the mixtures simply because DNA doesn’t transfer the same. Especially since I do research and records have shown all three white, black, and mixed. Not just mixed. And time frame should be changed to pre-1856. If we consider the Italians that gave us Muffuletta’s Creole and they didn’t come until 1866, everybody else should qualify as well.
I think we should focus more on retaining our French speaking and other cultural practices like men cooking, eduction, family, wash Monday, & shifting Mardi Gras away from being a drinking holiday. It’s weird.
We should also highlight more of our food besides gumbo. I love it to death but we should highlight Calas, chicken Creole, Mirliton, pompano en papillote, Dirty rice, grits and Grillades, pepper jelly, etc.
Danielle and Andrew this is amazing and the breakdown was great, very thorough. Hearing how the differences are made amongst people within the creole community as well as how they are looked upon as a whole really hit home with me. I’ve seen post on social media by people from south Louisiana basically making fun of those from north Louisiana just because we are from the north as if we don’t belong here but I know better. Both sides of my family have ancestors from south Louisiana, Opelousas for one. I have nothing to prove to anyone. My journey is for me and I’ll continue to strive to put my pieces together to learn more about where I came from. I move cautiously when it comes to genealogy groups because some can be tough. I’m learning a lot from your videos Danielle, thanks again.
If you focus on the ancestry history. And become a historical center ! What a blessing ! I will definitely show up in glad rags !
This was helpful and very powerful. As a mixed person who was adopted, my sense is this recent "pretendian" labelling movement can have the potential to hurt a lot of people who are sincerely trying to figure things out, including a lot of mixed children. There are a lot of reasons other than the frequently untrue "family lore" stories for why people have lost the trail on where they came from. My white-looking friend could not shake the feeling she was Indigenous and after going to elders with it and praying about it, her grandma admitted on her deathbed she was from a First Nation in Canada after pretending to be something else all her life. Another friend of mine had the same thing with all these recurring "Indian dreams." She also has white skin. When she met the social worker who put her up for adoption, she found out her birth mother's side was all Indigenous including Cree, Shuswap, and some Hawaiian. And found out people she felt incredibly close to were her cousins. A lot of the "pretendian" labelling can be cruel, and both of those people have experienced that type of stuff. One of them had an angry elder say they wanted to be "around our own people," not her. But meanwhile, this lady is cousins with the last two chiefs. But the elder was in a bad mood and looking at the skin color and attaching it to all the repression they'd experienced, however this lady had also gone through it, but with the added distress of dislike from other Indigenous people like that elder.
Not sure how to email you and not on social media..want to share a story of an Egyptian man Mostafa Hefny...he immigrated to the USA in the 80's and was given the identity of white by USA officials who've classified Egyptian peoples as white regardless of skin tone. He's been fighting this classification for years.
Yes I think I remember hearing about him and hearing of him. Shows how the US government and Western Nations do the most to try to cover up African civilization of what they would call sub-Saharan African or whatever they want to call in order to cover up the true identities and continued their life. It's really sad and pathetic on the Western and European aspect
I’m Creole my grandmother was Creole, My grandfather was Creole, My mother is creole, We do claim our blackness.
That's you. My creole family claims Creole and feels the black label was forced
@@semiramisbonaparte1627🦝
@@truthseeker215 you know what I want to call you?
Once again you are killing it with these topics 😊
Omg!!! That guy is my cousin!!! We have the same great grandfather. Back when I was a teenager we went to San Francisco and visited his grandma Gertie(my dad's aunt) and my dad's cousins Joelle and his dad Kenneth. Pretty neat to see this!!
I'm very proud of being a Creole of African and European descent. And I have an Afro- European surname that preserved my historical roots in the Americas and on the African continent and Eurasian continent. Creole in French, Spanish, and Portugese has a specific meaning
in it's origin as it relates to European colonialism ; it means decedents of European settlers and Africans or a mixed between the two born in colonial "America " or "Africa ". There are African and European Creoles and Creoles that are a mix between the two. Native-Americans are not Creoles by definition. If native Americans mix with "white" Eurpeans they were called metizo.
This is such a joyous channel. So full of truth, inclusivity and empathy. Thank You.
Great Viedo. He's on point. Epically about having feelings about Things.
Human cultures always influence each other, ie, mix. Example: "Cleveland" style polka music sounds different from the European Slovenian music because of the Jazz and Swing (African-American) influences. We influence each other. Culture is 2 things: 1, what is handed down, and 2, what we do with what is handed to us.
I always looked at Creole people as folks who are culturally white and black when convenient.
WOW, White Americans and Black Americans do *NOT* have a Creole culture. They are both Anglo based. Creole culture is Latin based and has more in common with Latinos than Anglos.
Facts lol
@@tmc1373no they don’t
@@truthseeker215YES they do. Louisiana was it’s own country, separate from America and it was culturally Latin (mainly French & briefly Spanish) while America has always been an Anglo country. The average Creole person has grandparents or great-grandparents who spoke French/Creole. Most of our older ancestors spoke no English at all as that was not the language of Louisiana. We also had a very heavily mixed race population because mixing happened far more frequently in Latin colonies than Anglo ones. Creoles are absolutely Latin in origin and only became Americanized after the Louisiana Purchase.
@26:58, Andrew seems to despise the anti-pretendian movement, at least some of their actions. Well, as a Native of mostly Native ancestry, I do call out Pretendian-sim because it's a serous threat to our history, culture and existence. But I don't spend my time gatekeeping who is Indigenous or qualifies for being a tribal member, some zealot Pretendian hunters do, they shouldn't do that because each Tribe or community decides their respective acceptance, not any Native person, mixed person, non-native or Tribal member. Tribal enrollment is the business of each Native community, not any outsider.
I've heard him before, and I think, as you point out, there are people gatekeeping. He has a problem with people who, without knowing, telling others they have no indigenous roots. He, and we know this happens, pointed out that the "gatekeepers" believe he and others can't be indigenous because they have some African roots too. Or if they aren't part of the civilized tribes, as if people had sex based on that.
@@phbalance7583 Tribal membership in North America is based on proving lineage, it's not based on how one looks. It don't matter of the enrollee is part black, white or other, as long as they can meet the enrollment criteria of the tribe, they are accepted. As for a native diaspora or nationalist aspects, it is probably based more on how one looks, and all Native communities as a whole, and working together for common goals, rights and celebrating together.
Such a great conversation.
For every person that can be identified as having African ancestry, there is at least one "white" person that has African ancestry. Part of the diminishing of Native American populations is the assimilation into the white population. We are one folk. Keep making the gumbo!
Chicago with creole heritage…grandma with her seven siblings went north and west all so much so the next generations have lost touch…..four in California,three in Chicago and one stayed with great grandma before stopping in Texas and other places.
Great interview. Andrew has so much information, love and pride I can’t wait to visit again and pick your brain about our lineage. ❤
I love learning about this kind of stuff
Returning to the roots! Yes! I plan to go live in Spain for three or so months in 2026. My son and I are currently learning standard Spanish. Spain Spanish! We’re going to learn Kouri Vini once we have mastered it.
Thats awesome and so great to hear! I plan on getting my French citizenship and I’m going to start by going to France next summer for a summer long language immersion program then the following year I plan on attending university to obtain my masters degree which is superrrrr inexpensive (less than 5k)!!! Once I complete the 2 year master program I can get 2 years knocked off citizenship requirements!!!
@@JanelleNaturelle Wow!!! That’s wonderful!!! I thought about working remotely and living in Spain permanently. The tax rate is a bit steep though. I’m doing my masters in History online starting this summer. I will do my PhD once my son and I move to the Tampa area. I’m going to do it at USF. You can take the test to be certified in French. I am going to be certified in Spanish. The tax rate in Spain is 24%. Too much for me. Lol! So, my son and I will go for three to six months and then return to the states to stay in Florida.
@@creoleladisallthatjazznblu6952 That’s awesome and I wish you well on your journey. When you mention the certification, are you referring to being certified in the language?
@@JanelleNaturelle Yes 🙌🏼
@@JanelleNaturelle And thank you so much
If you want to Internationalize Creole you could use the term Atlantic Creoles. Creole's spend across the Atlantic Ocean.
Correction... Spand across the Atlantic Ocean
I don't know what Andrew is talking about, most Natives welcome our Native brother sisters from the South, and most of us encourage those who have Native ancestry to look into reconnecting, rather they be from South America, Mesoamerica or North America, but we don't tell them how, it's up to people and community to find their roots or find each other. A minority of over zealot tribal nationalist tribal enrollment gatekeepers in North America don't represent all Northern Natives.
Many do…not all. There are plenty of people who think Latinos are “pretendians” I certainly don’t
@@DrAndresAndres So you been to all 600+ Native communities and over heard this? Most Latinos don't claim to be Indigenous, they shay away from the label. But those who do want to reconnect to a their Indigenous roots, most of us Natives of the North will support them. Hell, we have reconnecting Mexicans at many of our pow wows/gatherings across North America, it's becoming a common thing to invite reconnecting Natives from across the Americas to our festivals. Now, I have called out those minority of Natives who do that, and I also call out those Latinos who hate on the Natives or ashamed to be part Native. It goes both ways!
Great video. Really great video. Some creole families are a mixture of various shades of the spectrum. Then there are some who are all light skin and are told to only marry light. This video really does a good job of explaining what is creole.
What's interesting is that, though the name Creole is linked to Louisiana, the process of creolization was similar for all the Americas. Of course, Louisiana's specific influence of French culture distinguishes it. However, the word creole originated in Brazil. Louisiana Creole culture exists as a specific example of Americanization.
@PremyeDaernaer-cq1mx Yes, the word Creole was born in the Americas, and was adopted in certain parts of what would become the US. As the word suggests, Creole was born in the Americas and adopted or imposed on people, specifically in Louisiana. In the US, "race" was/is a legal definition. Creole was not. I don't think Creoles reject being Black, but I understand that they, like everyone else, have been required to define themselves legally. If their families have been categorized as White for centuries, it's not a rejection.
@PremyeDaernaer-cq1mx Etymologicially. Creole (n.)
"person born in a country but of a people not indigenous to it," c. 1600, from French créole (17c.), from Spanish criollo "(person) native to a locality," from Portuguese crioulo, diminutive of cria "person (especially a servant) raised in one's house," from criar "to raise or bring up," from Latin creare "to make, bring forth, produce, beget," from PIE root *ker- (2) "to grow." The Portuguese originated the term, and it didn't become applied to a language until the 1880s.
@PremyeDaernaer-cq1mx I'm not sure of the quote you mean, unless it was the claim that creole was originally applied to a mixed language. That's not quite right. The Portuguese brought the term to the Americas. Interestingly, a 16th c Frenchman, Michel Jajolet de la Courbe, brought the term into French after visiting the Portuguese colony of Casamance on the W African coast. He used it to describe the people there. They did speak what we'd call a creole language that is still spoken there(Ziguinchor Creole).
@PremyeDaernaer-cq1mx I'm not sure where I doctored the point. The Portuguese applied the term (crioullo) to the people who were born in their (Casamance) colony in Africa. The best way to confirm the meaning of the term in Portuguese would be to consult a Portuguese etymological dictionary. Obviously, the process of creating a people who are mixed and who speak a mixed language is not unique to anywhere in the Americas. The use of the term Creole is.
This site makes me homesick, I just spent two months in LA and missed the people and food.
When I was doing a lot of genealogy searches and documenting, I always had the crazy feeling of people looking over my shoulder. Maybe they were getting a kick out of me reading about them and relaying the stories to my family
Congratulations, Danielle. I’m a huge fan of your work 💯🔥😀👏🏾💥.
Please do an interview including Louisiana Creoles and Cajuns as well as Quebecers and Acadian and Metis from Canada. They are all connected and could benefit from learning more about each other.
I am Louisiana Creole and indo guyanese. That culture center sounds like an awesome idea!
I would definitely visit with my family. ( I also married a Puerto Rican, lols.) You guys are doing God's work! Thank you, 🙏🏽
Just ordered the book ❤.
My granny is from the same area. Joann Broussard. My great-grandmother was a Native from that area as well. Onice Broussard.
My maternal great grandmother's family has an indigenous ancestor from Coahuila and Northern Mexico (current New Mexico area). My mother's DNA cousins are from Mexico, Oklahoma, and Louisiana. No one has ever said Creole in my family lore. The Spanish surnames are common in indigenous families, but we never considered Mexico.The geneology expert suggested that our family name is not Totress, but was originally actually Torres.
Our ancestors were not just isolated to the region or port they 1st arrived in.
There are many commonalities in Melungeon, Red Bone, Creole and the Eastern Tribes. There were Scot Irish, Cherokee and slave
liaisons. Some were mixed with French and Spanish.
They travelled with the armies in the Indian Wars, the war of 1812, the war for Texas and the Trail of Tears.Their sons fought in the Civil War. There were many who used the chaos of the times to assume new identities as white to escape discrimination.
The Jacksonian era saw a major shift in voting rights and military service.
I recognize many family names in Georgia's, Andrew's and in your research.
Lord Bless and guide you as you help to reunite many families and this Nation!
Haïti is créole speaking with a strong creole culture and identity. Let’s not beat around the bush here.
1803 the population of New Orleans more than doubled due to the influx of peoples from these islands during the slave revolts.
Different creole. Hatians and other Caribbeans have to stop trying to write themselves into other people's cultures and stories.
@@riddimrider706 Haiti does not have to do anything. Haiti is the first black republic in the world. The second free country after America. Haitian history is world history. Haiti’s influence was the likes of the United States in terms of blackness. Haitians never stopped claiming their creole identity in fact as soon as someone says creole one thinks of Haiti. Lets think of blackness as a common story an we shall evolve as a people 🙏🏿
Great work Danielle!!! Per usual!!! ❤❤❤
I got one thing to say: Can someone tell my uncle that he can eat something besides rice and smothered chicken? Or étoufée as he calls it. Look he's been eating it everyday for the last ten years. The man 91.
LOL! Rice is the key to long life
😮Where’s that man getting them Chickens i need some of them 👌🏽Keep on eating Unc
Well don't You think something is working, and You need to join him to reach that age! 🤔
@@pirate55hitinc.26 Being creole is cool and what not but its scary to see a man so creole that won't eat nuthin' else but the same thing day after day.
Etoufee is usually made with crawfish or some kind of fish or maybe turtle .
The diversity of people is amazing.
Yall should go to Opelousas during creole heritage month and the festivals
I always enjoy your videos cuz . I love all the content you bring out
I appreciate that, thanks cuz xoxo☺
There's a level of privilage in not having grown up in Louisiana and being able to come back with the resources of the other places one has lived. I say that with my family being on both sides of that - my dad's family came to the state in the 40's for economics, my mom's family having been here since the 1750's.
I don't blame people for it, but I think part of this conversation that's missing is the lack of resources available to the families - all of them still in Louisiana other than those politically and financially connected. I think Lousiiana needs those resources - from the outside - but I also think folks need to not forget that as part of the conversation. Also, Louisiana is the only southern state losing population. People are leaving - en masse - I'd say at a record pace but its not really .... its been happening for 20, 30 years.
The coast is threatened. The culture is threatened. And the politics of the state aren't doing anything to help. Its one thing to romaticise living here. The reality of doing so is an entire thing completely. Visit. Sure. The economics of living in La doesn't really make sense anymore for anyone that's not coming in making a well above average income.
I would love to see home revitalized, rebuilt, re-energized but I remain skeptical and I'm heartbroken that my family could no longer afford to stay and may the economics work on the land that my family has been for so long. So instead I keep the food culture alive, I listen to the music, I watch videos like that and do my best to keep Louisiana alive where I can. Even if I am in middle TN now and have left the gulf south. The weird thing for me is, for the first time in my life, there are people that live nearby that have my last name. I never thought that would effect me so much ... and it has.
A great view of an old time boucherie (cooking, family, music and traditions) can be seen on Season 7 Episode 16 of Anthony Bourdain - No Reservations. The episode is called Cajun Country and aired Aug 2011. He starts in New Orleans and then moves west. His final stop is the boucherie somewhere between Opelousas and Eunice. You get a great glimpse at a creole/cajun tradition that isn't as common as it used to be. Poor Anthony. They get him to pull the trigger to get things started.
i find it intresting that gender can be on a spectrum in our society but when it comes to race you have to choose onne thing. Black-white is such a colonial hangover. I personally choose not to identify as a 'color'. It keeps you in bondage in every way.
My ancestry DNA says that one of my communities are Louisiana creoles, however virtually both my maternal and paternal family is from three counties Rockingham, Caswell and Alamance in North Carolina, the piedmont region. I have majority West African, and only 21% European mainly Scottish, Irish, and welsh and less than 1% Native American. We never called ourselves Creole but identified as Black, but understanding we had European and native ancestry.
How can I be related or similar to Louisiana Creole?
You just have some creole ancestors. Their family probably disowned them because they married black so your family now are proud blacks.
Ofc my comment gets deleted when I have a great explanation
@@mistersomerton if you remember please share, I’ve just got into ancestry and genealogy and I’d love to know how that “Louisiana Creole” community came up when virtually all my family is from three counties in NC.
I’m in the same situation. I’ve been tracing my family roots for awhile and this is what I’ve found out… before the slave trade movement, La. Creoles had property and wealth. Fast forward to the slave trade, the Colonists wanted only two descriptions for identification: either you were white or black. For the ones who looked obviously black they were MADE slaves but it was a problem identifying the more ambitious creoles. So the Colonists passed a law that if the creoles were found to be “White Passing “ their property would be seized. To avoid that, the creoles took flight to the farthest regions which were the Carolinas as well as Tennessee. Although I wasn’t born in La. I get questioned about my roots. I’m med brown skinned and I have an accent that I was literally born with. The more I search and research, the more amazing things I find out about my lineage. Hope this helps!
@@smileysongzify wow! So interesting! From my research there was a lot of mixing between whites and Blacks and to a smaller extent Indians in the piedmont region of North Carolina, we had small plantations and more opportunities for mixing. Specifically three counties Caswell, Rockingham and Alamance surnames such as Watlington, Courts, Stokes, Simpsons, Mullins.
The indigenous people I am referring to were called the Five Civilized Nations
Do Creoles reject their blackness?, The old country born absolutely, Thank goodness I had never encountered my
G. Grandmother and my G.G.Grandmother.
I would've been considered (insert kriolu term)
- too dark, they told their children not to involve themselves with them - more than likely, a slur.
To me Very unacceptable.
Others in the family were quite fine with that type of dialogue and follow their directions.
Some families still do that to this day sadly
Still that's not TRUTH for All! I know dark skinned Creole that doesn't speak a lick of English! Stop PROJECTING BS that a few do to reflect on All! Also the marrying light is a tactic that worked for them! The same way Mexican & Asian do it! Because who would want THIER CHILDREN GOING THRU SCRUTINY that Amerikkka place on so called Blacks! Learn THY HISTORY! 🏴☠️
@@mistersomerton yes, sadly true.
I remember being told that when my granddads family migrated from Monroe ,LA and settled in Oakland California during the 1940s they didn’t know what to classify my family FOR YEARS. Both my great grand parent were creoles from Lusitania they didn’t look black at all
My family is Criollo the Spanish version of Afro-Indigenous, French, Irish, Italian, and or Spaniards. I would ask my mother what are you (who are we)? I clearly see I am Black American but we're more than that. Her father is Black Cuban and Italian. While growing up I thought it was normal for everyone's grandparents to speak a different language. Then I received hateful snickers and stares whenever someome found out that my family had mixed races...
There’s another famous Creole out there, Reagan Charleston. She’s frequently doing news analysis and I think she was on the real housewives or something. Her Ancestry is creole is as well.
Humanity, in general, black folks, in particular, are experiencing an identity crisis. #asiseeittpm Sad. So sad 😞 #4humanitysteam. Undeniably. Africa’s history is humanity’s history. #lovehavemercy 🔥💕🐉
The division is because we accept the narrative of the people that enslaved and colonized us. Although we can clearly see the similarities coming down from our ancestral linage that connects us. The divide and conquer method is still working and in full force.
Point, babies from a white parent and a black parent now has the monocle of mixed race from a people who wish to divide, which benefits them the most, not us. It works. Until we as human beings realize that we are all connected, we will always enhance the others view of us and division will continue.
Namaste❣✊🏵
You have people like the darker Chenier's who I'm told the lightsr Chenier's didn't want anything to do with them because of skin color.
I don't know what an oyster loaf is, but I want one
Fascinating...Greetings from the UK
"Peoplehood
We are all related"
I LOVE that part
creoles can be black, actually. the original meaning of creole is not about being mixed. it refers to people born in the "new" world and also are city people. my family is dark skinned black, but my grandmother identified as creole, esp. when it came to food. did not consume "cajun" food at all. people are so ignorant. these people just have issues with black folk as new orleans in particular is VERY color conscious.
With all respect, the etomology of the word CREOLE is Peurteguese and means, 'IN THE HOUSE' or 'House Servant' we need to stop glamorizing this racist term.
@@thecriticalxpert It's people like you who make it racist. Words are arbitrary and can be given new meaning. No on sees creole as a racist term except for those who want to be victimized perpetually due to their very weak backbone (a condition known as cowardice).
@@thecriticalxpert wrong. but whatever.
TRUTH! I know plenty Dark skinned Creole that don't speak English at all! People not from tha BOOT should stop ✋🏾the Kap acting like they know because they Googled it! ✌🏾
@@thecriticalxpertas a Louisiana Creole that speaks Spanish, Louisiana Creole, and PORTUGUESE* (idk how tf you spelled that) outside of English you’re loud and wrong. Senta-se agora menino 😒
I grew up eating crawdads/crawfish that we caught in our neighborhood growing up in California. I was excited to find crawfish offered even in drive thru Chinese restaurants in Louisiana.
I was a military brat till my senior year in high school. Both of my parents are creole. I was closer to my maternal side of the family growing up we had certain words that I just thought they were English because we used them in our home as we travelled the world. But the food experience especially during Thanksgiving was the time I felt connected to my entire creole family. We would go house to house and have to at least have some Gumbo. As a teenager we would get offered a beer before water. We weren’t Catholic but we would celebrate like Catholics. If we weren’t traveling the world I would have gone to a Catholic school.
I hear it so much in NOLA that it confused me. I’m from Saint rose but I was in Texas after Katrina so my understanding of creole was so limited. Plus the ignorance and the part where some don’t want or even consider themselves black. I’m black so I just pushed it away and said f it. Now that I understand I’m trying to better understand.
INDIGEOUS / SPANISH / CAJUNS / MIXED BACK IN THE WAY BACK COUNTRY. LOTTESS OF FAMILY GATHERINGS
Louisiana Creoles are of Spanish and or French descent. Louisiana Creoles of Color are of those bloodlines and Sub Saharan African descent. With at least one family line originating in Louisiana. There are Creole groups of people and cultures all over this country and world. Not all Creoles are Black. It just depends how much Sub Saharan African descent. All those people are not dead. I have White cousins that are Creole. It is about mixtures. The word Creole means intermixing of languages, culture, and or ethnic groups. The Louisiana Creole ethnicity is Spanish and or French ethnicity. There are still White Creoles that are mixed with Spanish and or French and other European ethnicities. Spanish and French are Latin European, but in terms of the racial constructs of America, everything European is considered White. So, to say all the White Creoles are dead is silly. My dad and his siblings are in the twentieth percentile with their Sub Saharan African descent. They do not identify as Black. They only identify as their Creole ethnicity. My mom is twice as Black as my dad. She does identify as Black. Her dad was half White and half Creole. Her mom was Creole, but unambiguously Black. My mom’s dad looked White. She looks just like him. So, she looks like her dad. And yes! Catholicism is a key part of our culture. For sure. My daddy got so mad when my mom let me quit Catechism. 😂😂😂 My cousin called me and was like why haven’t you been at Catechism? I was like my mom let me make the choice not to go. Plus, my mom said we’re non denominational now. She was like non de what? Non denominational. We can jump in church too! You can jump in church? Yeah and shout!!! Shout in church??? Yes! 😂😂😂 A great number of Creoles are privileged. Due to our Latin European ancestry, we own disproportionately more land than other Afro Americans. If we are Afro Americans! Bc not all of us are Black though. There are some all Creole neighborhoods in my towns where I’m from … pretty much all light skinned Creole neighborhoods. Those neighborhoods did deny Blackness. Whether they were actually Black or not… they did not want to be Black. They weren’t allowed to date brown skinned and definitely no dark skinned people. If they did and they had babies … they’d examine the baby’s ears to see if they were going to turn darker. Then, you have the fully Black Creoles. Not admixed at all. 100% African. This Louisiana Creole group is a mixture of Congolese and Nigerian descent. All these groups of Creoles are also part of the Louisiana Creole cultural fabric. All of these Creoles have usually have different things mixed in them as well. The 100% African Creoles may have other types of African. Mixed lineage multi generationally mixed or considered fully Afro American bc they’re minimally admixed Creoles usually have other things in them besides just Spanish or French and whatever kinds of Sub Saharan African. I have a 100% African descent Creole friend. He’s really friends with my White friends. That’s how I learned about their Creole group. They started their own African descendant Creole group after gaining their freedom. The Louisiana Creole ethnicity can be fully Black. It can be minimally admixed Black. It can be non Black heavily mixed and only identifying as Creole. It can be White. It’s people of specific ethnicities. Many Creoles also have Native American descent. It’s very common. That’s the Native American aspect of Creole culture. There’s large parts of colorism within varying Creole communities. Every stereotype has some truth to it. So, that’s the thing about stereotypes. Do Creoles reject Blackness? Yes. But … not all Creoles are Black. It depends on how much African lineage one has. Is it significant or not? Do Creoles that specifically are Black reject Blackness? Historically … YES! So that’s the answer to that question. In modernity, many Creoles claim Black even if they aren’t actually Black. So, the rejection of Blackness is changing. But… this is also participating in the erasure of Blackness! I went to Loyola and University of New Orleans. I’m Bayou Lacombe Choctaw! 🤣🤣🤣 I completed online. So, I did not complete with Loyola or UNO. I just thought I’d mention it since you mentioned the school. My great grandfather was half Choctaw! I read that this tribe actually migrated to Southeast Louisiana from Mexico 1800 years ago. I don’t like the American Indian term. Indigenous Native Americans were called Indians by Columbus. So, I don’t use that Amer-Indian term. I’m only 2% Indigenous. Lol And yes! Indigenous is Indigenous! Whatever lands their Indigenous from. Most Mexican Mestizos aren’t Afro Latino. There’s minority Black Mexican groups. Most Mestizos are only 3% to 5% max lije 10% African descent though. There are more Black Creoles than there are Black Mexicans. That’s awesome!!! That all of these Louisiana Creole people from around the country are reconnecting with their roots!!! I’m born and raised in Louisiana. St Tammany Parish. My family is from Bayou Lacombe on one side and Bayou Bonfouca on the other side. I was raised mostly in Eden Isles and Old Spanish Trail. So, I wasn’t raised in the Creole neighborhoods that my mom and dad are from. My mom and dad are both from all Creole neighborhoods. I also grew up traveling. California. Florida. North Carolina. Those are the states I frequented the most. I moved to Florida as a teen. I now live in Baton Rouge. I’m moving out of here in two more years though. Choctaws make tamales and tacos etc. So finding out they’re originally from Mexico is funny. Lol But yes. The descendants of Colonial Louisiana are still alive. My great grandfather was an immigrant from Spain. He came over when Louisiana was already America. I have other ancestors such as my sixth great grandfather immigrated … or I guess I should say … migrated… to French Louisiana. Still during Colonial times. Before it became a colony of Spain even. And before it went back to France. Before it became America! It’s common to have Spanish ancestry as a Creole. Not only French. Yes! Bc Mexican is Mestizo mostly. So, someone with lineage from Mexico wouldn’t only show up Mexican indigenous. It’ll show up as Spain too. Bc Mexicans are largely of Spaniard descent due to colonization. And yea! There’s both Afro Indigenous and non Afro Indigenous people groups existed and still exist today. ❤❤❤ Yeah. Many Creoles did move to Mexico and California. Southern California has the most concentration of Cali Creoles. They’re descendants of the Louisiana Creoles that migrated over to California. And yes! They moved all over. Chicago being one other city that had concentrations of Louisiana Creoles. Detroit too.
@PremyeDaernaer-cq1mx Oh yes! Definitely true. Someone from the New Roads area would be better equipped to discuss that part of your statement. I don’t speak on things I don’t know about. I’m not familiar with the area. I know that Bayou Lacombe and Bayou Bonfouca as well as Bayou Paquet neighborhoods in Slidell and Lacombe … St Tammany Parish Louisiana … are all Creole unless you married into the neighborhood. These neighborhoods were historically very colorist!!! My mom and her sister are both Creoles! My mom’s mom was a Creole my mom’s dad wasn’t in our lives and he died a long time ago as well. Story has it he went back to California to try to make it and was going to send for my granny. That’s what he told her anyhow. He got into some trouble out there though. Those L.A. streets will eat you alive. That’s why my mom never wanted me going off to L.A. by myself trying to be an actress. Which I wanted to do. Lol! I visited often as my mom’s sister and my first cousins lived out there anyway. But … moving there … Idk. My family never wanted me to. At any rate, I said all that to say this … these Creole people were treated vastly different in these neighborhoods!!! Due to phenotype. My mom’s dad was half Creole and half White. He looked White. My mom looks just like him. So, my mom looks White. My mom’s mom unambiguously Black. My mom’s sister’s dad was very dark skinned. Unambiguously Black. My aunt is light brown, and favors her mom the most. So … still and all … unambiguously Black. She was also more medium brown as a child. As a child, her own uncle wouldn’t even allow her inside of his house. One of her uncles. When my granny found out … whew!!! That was the night the lights went out in Lacombe, Louisiana honey!!! But yes. Overwhelmingly, these all Creole neighborhoods can be very colorist. Most of them do not identify as Black and can also be very racist against Black people. Not all the families are like that of course. Most all the families are colorist. Racist I’d say about half and half. I didn’t grow up in those neighborhoods. Thank god! My mom was and is very pro Black. She was a member of the New Black Panthers until they wanted a guy to come stay with us bc he needed housing. Etc. So she quit. But as far as pro Black ideology … She as well as her siblings were all about it and that’s how I was raised. On my dad’s side, he and his siblings do not identify as Black. My mom’s side is twice as Black as they are though. Dna wise. I’ve never heard my dad or his siblings be colorist or racist though. They just don’t self identify as Black bc they are only about a quarter. They identify as their Creole ethnicity and not with any race black or white. But … I never heard them being racist or colorist growing up. I can tell stories of these neighborhoods though. Whew!!! Very colorist and racist against Black people and Black unambiguous people especially.
@PremyeDaernaer-cq1mx Yes. I want to learn Kouri Vini. I am not sure if Kouri Vini itself has varying dialects though?
Did you ever cover the " Black seminoles " and if never why not? I looked thru many videos and I haven't seen anything about Seminoles or the Black seminoles
oh, no yet! I dont know about that. sounds like a good topic
@@nytn they have a very extensive history in southern florida and teaxas and mexico
I love his energy! I hope he's one if my Creole cousins
That name Jollivet def creole heavy emphasis on French Ancestry ...Gumbo is my culinary connection to Louisiana!
Almost everything thought of as “ blackness” is either a single facet and a preference or a negative behavior that is just being promoted as “ blackness”. Positive behaviors such as strong family ties, a sense of community, strong father figures, beautiful intelligent and wise female figures , a vibrant spiritual life are also a part of the Black experience, but one which nobody rejects. And also universally respected in all cultures.
The way we look is the way God created us to be and everything that God created is Good!
We are More, children of LovedByGod!
We are Mo4e!
Everybody is mixed.
Not everyone
no.
TRUTH, but only a certain race is prohibited from claiming their identity without everybody telling them they started in this country in 1619! Even though the Spanish HISTORY shows that's a complete LIE, and no voyages even came from so called Africa! Not even in 1619! 🏴☠️
TRUTH, but every1 didn't get their BIRTHRIGHTS stripped like dark skinned people! 😕
Most Americans who identify as Black are mixed. Videos like this make me wonder if I am really Black. I have always thought of myself as being black having a sub group. So am I not Black just the sub group. But I do know my grandparents did drink from the white only fountain. I also know that if you aren't part of the solution You are the problem. Black History and Culture won't die by my hands.
And I see a lot of comments stating Creole is a culture. No. It is not only a culture. It’s being of specific lineage too! You can cook all the gumbo you want and sing in French every day. If you are not of the Louisiana Creole ETHNIC group(s) you’re not a Creole. Danielle and this other guy are ETHICALLY Creole! Even though she is White and he is Black. Ethnicity can be attached to any race. Some Creoles are of no significant African lineage. They are of too much African lineage to call themselves White though. THOSE are the only Creoles that rightfully identify as solely their ethnicity and no race. I believe Danielle stated she’s 10% African. Which means her race would be White. She’s of 90% European lineage. This guy is unambiguously Black. So, that’s his race. His ethnicity is Creole. He has Mexico roots as well. So, he’d be Afro Latino as well. I can’t stand when people say Creole is just a culture. No. It’s specific ethnic lineage as well. You can know how to speak Creole fluently and be part of the culture. Sure. If you’re not ETHICALLY CREOLE … it doesn’t matter. Cooking shrimp Creole don’t make ya Creole! Danielle IS of Creole descent. Even though she’s White. Even though she grew up not knowing anything about the culture. She is of the Creole ETHNICITY!!! You can’t be “raised to be” or “culturally” an ethnicity no more than you can be raised to be or culturally a race. The notion that people who participate in Creole culture are Creoles is ridiculous. That needs to be unlearned by these people commenting that.
@mistersomerton -1+1 does not equal 3. Me wanting to know about my French grandfather has nothing to do with wanting to be White. It is merely filling in a missing piece in my history.
My paternal Grandfather up and returned to Africa when I was 9.
He wouldn’t come to see us (we went to Africa for an entire summer) when I was 11, and I never saw or heard from him before he passed when I was 29. I'm 54 now.
I visit my family in West Africa once every year, and plan to move there by 2030.
Look up Sengbe Pieh of the Amistad slave rebellion. I love the fact that he and I look almost exactly alike.
He’s my ancestor through my paternal Grandmother (a princess of the Mende tribe).
My maternal Grandmother (who married my French Grandfather) was a princess of the Shebro tribe and my Aunt created a family tree for my Grandmother’s family dating back to the1600's (in Africa).
I just want to know what my other grandfather looked like, if that's okay with you.
Thank you for your well thought out and incredibly informed analysis of my life.
I had an uncle named Charles Trudeau , fit Lavau , I think he put an x on it . He was mayor of New Orleans but during Spanish times. He’s the father or grandfather of Marie Lavau .
The Lavau name is from a shared French grandmother .
She was a free Black woman . Not a slave . She was married in the cathedral where my grandmother Marie Gabrielle Vivfarene ( 3 rd husband ). Her name was savary saucier . She went by Widow Saucier
I believe a lot of hidden heritage comes from the need to protect future generations. I am Italian and my mother looked very much Italian but when her baby sister was a toddler she was a curly headed blonde. She looked so Eastern European my grandfather was convinced she was not his. So go back to times when people were persecuted for their color and it makes sense why certain bloodlines were kept hidden. If certain things are hidden long enough they become forgotten.
There are other types of Louisiana Creoles besides the mixed race phenotype and the Creole culture of New Orleans is different from that of Southwest Louisiana. New Orleans has much more noticeable African influences
Part of me and my family are considered Kreoul or Creole. It's spelled differently in the Capeverdian culture. Capeveridans are mixed with African and Portuguese. My mother is Italian and black, and my fathers mother is Native American and African American. I would say I'm creole or mixed race black.
Unless and Until your DNA is analyzed, 'everyone' is st best ALLEGEDLY whatever they think they are.
I am Creole.
I have seen plenty of creoles being racist towards black people
and vice versa
@@DAViDD767 no not really black people don't pick on mixed people. I'm mixed race myself afro Latina mother white American dad I was never bullied by black people. The problem is mixed people are insecure.
Idk why my comments are deleting but you can keep looking at mixed people as victims. I won't.
@@mistersomerton oh no, we don't see ourselves as victims, sorry
@@DAViDD767 im mixed race as well so stop trippin about black people they never pick on us in a harmful way like some mixed people do to black people
Well done, cousins! 👏🏽💕👏🏽
Really interesting…..I’m about 11 ethnicities, so racially I’m mixed, but culturally I’m Black.