The Australian govt is made up with d/heads, sudo communists (greens and Labor) and nit wits. It would be advantageous if all govt would piss off out of our lives. All they are doing is screwing it up. Additionally, trying to get to zero emmisuons at the expense of the country's ecconomy is ludicrous and is unachievable. Forcing people to buy rubbish EV's is not going to work. EV's are so polluting and bloody expensive to charge that is it not economical for me alone. So, govt, stick your legislation where it hurts the most and stay the hell out of my life. You have already screwed it up for me.
Every car dealer should put big ass banner on their parking lot with a sign "These cars are 15k more expensive due to corrupt, authoritarian government net zero scam"
@@donwalsh9426not necessarily THAT way. Just if a politicians decision makes damage - jail sentence for that politician. And don't forget fines and mandates on em 😂
@@teolynx3805 Justice is tiered. Tickets to total. The trouble is that the damage is exceeding the reasonable ability to punish the behavior. The Japanese have the concept of Ikko-Ikki, which is a form of we're not going to take this any more. Desperate times require extreme corrections. Not a spank on the botty. Big ones for big damage.
Similar reduction requirements were to be forced on farmers in many countries. We have to recognize it's not even about control. It's about getting rid of most of us.
In the UK our problem is that we did elect a Conservative party multiple times but they still implemented green policies. Our long-term plan has to be to give both of the main-stream parties a repeated kicking until they either fade away and get replaced with new parties or they manage to reform themselves into something less toxic to the general electorate.
? Elon Musk is one of the biggest advocates of the "environmental" movements in shutting down all infrastructure related to fossil fuels Elon musk is using his positions in D.O.D.G.E to implement laws making everyone's life in America more than unbearable He will implement his ideology in place through tariffs etc to shut down "competition" from example China - BYD and fossil fuels to the west.
2023 UK Government initiative New plans setting out the government’s long-term aim to use fewer new resources, drive up the repair and reuse of existing materials, and increase recycling were announced by Environment Minister Rebecca Pow today (28 July). The programme, called ‘Maximising Resources, Minimising Waste’ brings together a range of measures backed by government funding which will help to keep products and materials in circulation for as long as possible and at their highest value, including through increasing reuse, repair and remanufacture, helping to grow the economy and boost employment. EVs fit that really well not
@@Wee_Langside Yes that's true EVs are a massive waste of resources, and are not designed to last creating huge amounts of waste. Not to mention the toxic pollution from them.
If driverless, electric mobile phones on wheels is all that's offered, that goal will soon be achieved. I hope push bike dealers have their receipt books ready. Pretty soon, they'll be the go to vehicles for many.
@@partymanau There are many tricks to get rid of every politician who doesn't have the approved opinion on all subjects, for example calling him an "extremist", a "hater" or something similar, which makes it difficult for him to get votes. The fact that all established parties have the same agenda regardless of their colour is no coincidence.
Spot on. These uniparty idiots will be out on their ear. They might succeed in saving their sorry asses by killing these regulations but Trump will drown the green scam and that wave will wash over Australia. Bye Bowen, Albo, Dutton, Brandt and the rest of the scumbags. Bye bye to solar panels and wind turbines. The USA walks away from this crap, the world will go with them. Somehow it feels like the earth is just starting to heal from the mind virus of the leftie/greenie pricks.
What we do in Australia makes no difference to the worlds CO2 as we only produce 1.4%. Stop buying anything from China and India will reduce the worlds CO2 further than anything we can do.
correction, 10 years from now, most people will be in EV's...look at the sales of Chinese EVs world wide, then have a look at the financial trouble American, European and Japanese car makers are in...they are closing factories, laying off workers and cutting their salaries......legacy car makers are going to disappear if they keep their head buried in the sand and ignore the EV revolution.
It’s time for Australia to become a free country again. Our heroic diggers didn’t die in wars to have this treachery imposed on the country they loved. Disgusting!
My father lost his leg in Ww2 New Guinea. He loved his Mercedes and was an early Mazda buyer in Australia ( when people said , ‘ I would never buy Japanese rubbish ’as an electrical engineer he was always banging on about how electric cars would take off once they solved the battery equation. Now they have solved it. And a warning to you. Be careful how you play the Digger card , mate.
@@raoulheinrichvonmerten4851 given one of my Grandfathers died fighting for this country I’m okay playing the digger card. I know damn well what he died for!! You miss the point entirely. It’s not about whether electric cars are good or bad. It’s about being dictated to by authoritarian governments. Thats what they fought against…or thought they where anyway!
I will never own an awful EV no matter what government forces me to do, and from now on I won’t be buying any new car of any sort because of the annoying tech. It’s pre owned cars for me from now on.
Never have, never will. Each model has to prove istelf first, then buy the most reliable model in good condition second hand. Has worked well for us for 40 + years
The CEOs get replaced, the share/stake holder pressure, DEI / ESG requirements push anyone sensible out. A zombie loyal to the global govt replace them.
Thats part of the problem. Part of industry mgmt believes the global warming doom scenarios and the rest are too chicken to push back or have bought in to the grift.
@@chavale2 I'm currently driving my dad's 2009 Toyota Aurion Sportivo SX6. It's a beast done 237329KM on the odometer. My dad upgraded to a 2020 Toyota Camry Hybrid. I'll be buying the Aurion off my dad later this year gotta save up.
@@christianmagno984 Voting is an illusion, what will change if Australians wake the fuck up and realise they work for the WEF....if they hopped onto their website then they'll realise it ISN'T a conspiracy.
@TarnishPrower The last time he was president, he left the Paris agreement and he has said that he will do it again, as well as to tackle climate religion.And if the US puts down the climate religion, Europe will be forced to follow suit or perish.
I'm hanging on to my petrol sedan and maintaining it regularly for as long as I can. This whole mandated sh*t fight will turn Australia into Cuba, with ancient vehicles on every street.🤬
no, they will ban them or just make petrol so expensive only the rich will be able to afford it, which was of course the plan all along, you walk or bike while your betters drive and fly. you know it makes sense.
That is the plan. The elites have had enough of the poors having cars. it's time to push them onto buses so the elite can travel to work in their nice EV in comfort For working people, tough luck.
Make it mandatory for ALL government vehicles and politicians private vehicles to be all-electric. No govt employee should be allowed to use any ice vehicles in work time. Pretty soon it will all grind to a halt.
now there is a good idea. And make all ambulances, fire trucks and police cars purely electric too. Lots see how long the politicians can hold on then!
We in the uk don’t want are need them, this is a recipe for disaster, I am a owner of a MOT TESTING STATION we have ask many of customers many that are car repairers not one would advise anyone to buy a EV , all my private customers none will buy a EV .
I deal in the automotive industry. One of those is teaching automotive technologies to workshop owners etc. Everyone quickly understood that EVs are worst for the environment and their true aim is a transfer of power on both repairs and part sales.
@@gerbre1 Actually this not the case. ICE cars are easy to repair in comparison. The most complex part of an ICE car is the engine which can last up to 500,000km or 25 years for reliable cars like Honda , Toyota and some Benz models. EV in comparison have simple engine (motor) but the complexity is the battery which is sealed and not repairable. With each passing year of having an EV the changes of a spontaneous fire increases. The reason is battery degradation, and failure of BMS components. A failed BMS chip will cause a fire. Compare it to an ICE car. A failed chip in the ECU will just cause the car to stop not burn to the ground.
@@dfloperStop telling fairytale stories. I recommend reading the Which used EV to buy guide from the EV clinic. They are repairing EVs for years now. Battery failures are no. 4 only on the list of EV failures. Many batteries can be repaired just by exchanging failed battery cells. Sealed batteries can be opened and resealed. Many batteries never fail, at 50% degradation the car just refuses to run.
I remember a time when EV’s weren’t selling before we were forced to buy them. I’m wrong, nobody is forcing us. They just don’t want us to have cars at all.
@msquar2ed Answer me one question? On what topics is li3bor good on?! Except sucking and incompetence, as I honestly don't recall a single thing they have done that has been good for us, the Australian people?!🤔🤯😤
@alwaysright3718 Um, what is the alternative, then? Atlest the Liberals have more than one energy source that will work 24/7 365 days a year and wont need trillions of dollars of lines to connect it into the grids we already have, which is unlike li3bor, as our power is intermittent and extremely expensive due to their incompetence😤
1000’s of preregistration EV’s in the UK are clogging up airfields across the country. Apparently there are preregistration EV’s from 2022 still sitting unsold.
The insanity of it. Here's the thing, back in 2003 I switched jobs to where I could mostly work from home, I literally went from 10-12kmiles/year to not even making 5kmi most for the next decade (mostly groceries, occasional other shopping). There are numerous ways you could incentivise people (and companies) to drive less that would accomplish cutting emissions more than these ridiculous mandates.
Ditto. But here in the States all the big business types are forcing everyone back on the road. Traffic in the Washington DC region is already worse than it has ever been.
@@chrisfallis5851Even worse. Imagine your car stood outside and is now covered with snow. You can remove some snow but the rest? In case of ICE waste heat will heat the interior and windshield so rest of snow and ice will unstick the car fall or melt. A EV has no power to get rid of snow the same way.
A constitutional lawyer needs to take a class action law suit on behalf of the Australian people, consumer against these "mandates" under restricting the rights to travel Section 92 of the Australian Constitution. The term "intercourse" in Section 92 has been interpreted broadly by the High Court to include freedom of movement between states. This means that laws preventing or unreasonably restricting interstate travel could potentially be challenged as unconstitutional. Past challenges under Section 92 have typically involved restrictions on trade or commerce, but the High Court’s interpretation of "intercourse" to include movement of people provides a plausible foundation for a case. If a case were pursued, it would likely need to show that the mandates are not only burdensome but also unnecessary or premature, given current infrastructure limitations.
I don’t see how the election is relevant. We know most Aussie voters are not paying attention and will keep voting Labor or Liberal that just do what the WEF tell them to do.
One thing to note is that not meeting the EV targets does NOT prevent the manufacturer from making and selling ICE vehicles....they just get heavily TAXED. And there my good friends is the goal of all of the 'net zero' mandates. Make regulations that cannot be met....to generate huge amounts of additional money coming in for them to squander. I pray that the USA will lead the way to common sense here shortly.
We can all see where this is going. Come 2030 Governments will have achieved their target. One hundred percent of all new cars sold will be EV's. The slight problem is that not one bought will be by a private vehicle driver. Well on the way then to WEF 15 minute cities!
Cold is better the government says. I can tell you now that sitting in my cold house is not very good. It’s not very comfortable the plants outside I’ve gone into winter mode. There’s no crops other than root vegetables and the government wants this. The government wants us to live in an area where it’s cold where there’s no food available and they want us to be happy. I tell you where I want to live. I want to live somewhere where it’s pleasantly warm and the crops and fruit grow in abundance.
In 2024 the tide turned against green zealots. An expensive luxury that most of us can't afford. Albo & Bowen have been found out and they will have their arses right royally kicked when the federal election is called.
I was at a luncheon with Sussan Ley a few weeks ago. I asked what would a Zero Emissions World look like in 2050. I got that blank expression that has become familiar. Unfortunately,there is little difference between Labor and Liberal on zero emissions, with the exception of nuclear energy, and with all the barricades against the construction of nuclear energy, including green policies, greedy militant left wing unions, red tape and Aboriginal mysticism , the chance of that coming to fruition by 2050 is dismal.
We can only hope the Libs and Nats don't get voted in with their ridiculous nuclear nonsense. They are the ones who don't understand economics. By the time the first insanely expensive reactor is built - after years of delays, the planet will be fried, and climate and flood refugees will be banging on our doors.
We need more fossil fuels and more climate change. Both are massive net positives for the world. Climate change isn't just normal but good, far more people die from cold than heat, even in places like India. Warming isn't uniform, but concentrated in the coldest areas and coldest times. CO2 has a diminishing greenhouse effect, i.e. every molecule of CO2 we emit has less environmental impact than the last. More CO2 means fewer cold deaths, more crop growth, more farmable land, and more fossil fuel use means fewer climate deaths, more climate control, more productivity, more industry, more innovation. We are nowhere near 'running out' of fossil fuels, and the next step up is nuclear, which is even more abundant. Highly, highly recommend the book "Fossil Future" for a detailed breakdown of the above and more!
G'day MGuy..There seems to be alot of information about how bad EV's & Renewable Energy is..I think Governments are going to backflip..I feel that TRUMP will shine a light on this madness & other countries will follow suit behind..
@@johns2226No, Trump is Musk’s best buddy, but not the other way around. Musk threw in with Trump in a Hail Mary play to save his EV business, which has always relied on Govt subsidies & credits. It seems likely it’ll work until Trump and Musk have a falling out.
Hopefully soon when Casanova Bowen loses his seat and Elmer Fudd is forced first onto the opposition backbenches and then into retirement, much of this madness can be rolled back.
I worked in local government. They get their vehicle's tax-free and pay a fraction of the registration fee for on-road use. For example, a twenty tonne truck is $150.00 per year. Compared to my car at $1800.00 per year. Our government is corrupt. And where I worked, the depreciation of a vehicle was 25% per year. Which means that the replacement vehicle costs were free after four years. Not bad if you're in government.
I drive about 60km per day which depletes my battery by 10%....I recently went on a 1200 km road trip....no problems at all, chargers are everywhere here in Thailand and my EV is so much nicer to drive than a noisy vibrating ICE pouring poisonous fumes into the atmosphere....ICE cars are rapidly becoming obsolete.
@@martinwalker9234 Did you look at how many dirty resources it takes to build your car? Petroleum to mine the battery ingredients? How are you charging it? If with power from petroleum.....Maybe it is different in Thailand but don't try to make us all buy these cars.
@@CharleneWest-s9c I have no interest in how my car was made...the same as I have no interest in what was mined to make my tv/fridge/microwave (insert everything else I buy here)...I am charging it off solar panels, I generate between 10 and 50 kw hrs per day.....I am not trying to make you buy anything, I was simply replying to the guy who thinks EVs are toys which only do 10 miles per day......he is completely wrong, I and many others have proved EVs can be a practical replacement for petrol cars...better performance, cheaper to buy and run and so much nicer to drive. PS. the device you typed your comment on most likely has a Li ion battery mined from the same dirty sources you are complaining about...
These limits are hilarious. A Tesla Y, so FULLY ELECTRIC, if charged at night time in NSW, QLD or VIC, emits over 100g/km of CO2. THe emission is of course at the power station, but it is still CAUSED by the Tesla. So the Tesla does not meet 2029 emissions LOL LOL LOL.
Yes exactly by the time you take the Carbon footprint to build the battery from mining to fitting in the car you are way behind the "Planet saving" 8 ball. Then there's the fossil fired power wasted charging the Battery for the power to cart the Battery about. By the time your electric planet saver has reached the carbon zero balance and you actually might start to save the Planet it will be due for the scrap heap. that's of course if the Batery actually lasts that long. If it needs to be replaced mid stream then you'll never reach Net Zero. There's also the Deisel powered charging stations in the Outback that will add to the Carbon negativity figures.
I just don't understand how many tons of immisions from the trucks and diggers spue out digging for the chemicals to make one battery it's definitely a one sided argument
And the bunker fuel the ships use. Cars aren't even 10% of global emissions and if they all disappeared tomorrow they would move on to the next thing to make your life miserable.
And your point is...? Air transport is (so far) very hard to decarbonise, unlike land transport. Followers of the oil and petrol cult would prefer paying obscene amounts to oil barons and watch the planet go up in smoke than embrace progress, which is what emissions standards is about. All countries have them but Russia and Australia, and we keep whingeing how bad they are for us poor fossil fuel-addicted dinosaurs. In Norway 89% of new cars are now EVs, and it's a damn cold country. They're just way smarter than us, that's all.
6.55 this is what we have in the Netherlands and it has made prices of new vehicles that they see as polluting but 10 years ago were the standard skyrocket.. as an example a Yaris GR msrp is 36 to 40 thousand dollars.. here that same car costs almost double 76 thousand dollars/euro only due to environmental CO2 taxes. which if you think about it is actually taxing people for literal air you exhale..
BUT car manufacturers started it! they wanted to 'encourage' us to buy more vehicles and started giving more and more useless gimmick crap on their vehicles to try and persuade us that we were getting something exciting, better and new. When that didnt work they opted to lobbying governments to force us to have it - and now this has led them to all of this. They started this. if it ends with their demise, then the fools are them.
The only person who benefits from all these mandates is Elon Musk - he sells not only EVs but also CO2 credits to ICE car and truck manufacturers in different countries (in fact, half of Tesla profit comes from selling CO2 credits)
Robbing Peter to pay Paul ? Sounds a bit like the possible lunacy here in NZ where good farming land maybe turned into forestry to grow Carbon credits to sell to the big polluters. The trees will probably never be harvested so no jobs from that. All this will not reduce the Worlds Pollution. Together with Solar Farms and Growing crops to turn into fuel thus reducing the space for food production.
I just bought myself a low mileage new looking 2021 petrol VW Arteon. I’ll be running it for years. It fills up in about 6 minutes in one of the 1000’ s of petrol stations.
They're also completely ignoring the C02 utilized in the creation of the EV and its charging. With EVs, you aren't reducing C02; you're increasing it; you're just offsetting the C02 source.
I bought a 2022 Subaru Outback, a fantastic all rounder. However, I fear it's my last ever new petrol car as they are now far too expensive, plagued with electronic interventions and super irritating audible speed warnings. It's going to be fantastic second hand older cars for me now that do not have the useless speed warnings or electric batteries. I'll come back to the table once sanity returns, the EV mandates removed and prices return to sane levels.
As are the emissions from driving the vehicle and making & delivering the fuel. Over the full lifetime of the vehicle, EVs emit much less C02 than ICE vehicles. Yes BEVs have more embedded emissions at the showroom floor stage, but after that those emissions are far lower than ICE. Just how much lower depends on whether it is mainly charged by electricity produced by RE, gas, coal, nuclear, hydro, etc. Depending on the number of Km driven each year, an EV will generally break even emissions wise with an ICE car at around the 3-4 year mark. After that, the ICE vehicle is environmentally worse as not only does it create emissions when that fuel is burnt, emissions are created from extracting, transporting, refining, transporting & selling that fuel. Then, when scrapped, there is a higher environmental payback by EVs. The minerals in the battery can be recycled - reducing the embedded emissions of the next EV made.
@@markboscawen8330 Thanks! Finally an educated, informed comment. Too many comments here reveal profound ignorance and uncritical deference to the powerful oil mafia that wants to keep humanity hooked on burning oil - even though their own bosses have known for more than 50 years that it's making the planet unlivable.
I think that someone ought to design an aftermarket coal stove that can be fitted into the rear seat area of EVs to provide heat in the cold months. People vould then buy high sulfer content coal and drive around your capital belching black smelly soot to let politicians know what you think of their emissions regulations.
Who's going to fix their roads, plumbing, gas or water networks when hard working Aussies can't afford the trade vehicles they need or worse aren't available at all? Are they trying to bankrupt what's left of our country with this?
Back in the real world...I had to take my father to hospital today (slipped on ice and cracked his head), I had choice of petrol or diesel 4x4, and based our trip on potential bad weather chose the diesel 4x4. On the way I said to my father that I was so happy not to have had an EV based on no charger at the hospital, if there was, would it be working or available, then how many trips we may have to make based on the unknown if kept in. You are all intelligent people and you can join the dots here...5 mins filling up with diesel if we had to or add to the stress with faffing with charging. These overlords simply don't care that this battery technology is being rushed.
I wish Trump would deregulate vehicles that weigh less than 2,400 pounds so that small cars are affordable to more Americans. Non hybrid small cars that get 45 mpg could become popular and fun to drive.
If you want transition to EVs 1: make them as good /better than ICE. 2:have transition style vehicle (hybrid) that are not under threat of being banned within 10 years. At the rate their going, we may as well go back 110 years to horse and cart, that's evolution for you.
What I don't get, I do really, is that if the Govt. is so worried about emissions why are they allowing sales of our resources overseas and promoting things like tourism which relies on planes and ships to bring people here and take them home again? I mean when you look at how many planes take off and land every day and how much the air quality improves when they're forced to stay in one place for whatever reason it seems ano brainer really. Could it have anything to do with money and bending taxpayers over is just easier and less costly for the economy?
Tourism is another thing on their cards. You won't be going anywhere by 2030. The plan is for the majority of UK airports to close. They're already upping air taxes next year. Haven't you heard of C40 and 15 minute cities?
@@paul756uk2 I try not to get caught up in all the social media bedwetting tbh. I actually think that the 15 min. city is a good idea, at least until social media got a hold of it.
@oldbloke204 the term 15 minute cities is coined to suck in bed wetters like you into thinking they're a good idea. Being an old bloke you might want to consider yourself lucky you might not be around when they're implemented. Otherwise, enjoy your slavery.
I think I may be like a lot of Aussies whose lifestyle will not accommodate a BEV. I will, if I ever buy a new car, pay the new tax (emissions standard). In the interim I will let my vote speak for the Aussie motorist.
3 people I know have bought EVs, I dont want to ruin the friendship by telling them that I hope they did not buy them because they thought that they were doing something to "Save the Planet".
The few I know who have bought them did it for cheap mileage. Thats because they dont pay road tax at the moment. This will change soon. Combine that with increasing insurance costs and zero resale value. Us Hydrocarbon fans will have last laugh.
Keep your cars as long as possible, its gonna be a long time until common sense policy comes back
My car's 32 year old, I'm fine with that.
The Australian govt is made up with d/heads, sudo communists (greens and Labor) and nit wits. It would be advantageous if all govt would piss off out of our lives. All they are doing is screwing it up. Additionally, trying to get to zero emmisuons at the expense of the country's ecconomy is ludicrous and is unachievable. Forcing people to buy rubbish EV's is not going to work. EV's are so polluting and bloody expensive to charge that is it not economical for me alone. So, govt, stick your legislation where it hurts the most and stay the hell out of my life. You have already screwed it up for me.
My cars are..... 32, 48 and 70 years old, all updated of course, Land Rovers which I'll sell.
Bloody autocorrect, I'll never, never, NEVER sell
Not too long if you vote for Dutto.
Every car dealer should put big ass banner on their parking lot with a sign "These cars are 15k more expensive due to corrupt, authoritarian government net zero scam"
That might not be the best way to sell Cars so it wont happen, The need a class action advertising campaign
You can't sue a government that you elected...
@@nowhere529 needs a revolution!
Your assuming car dealers are any more honest and any less corrupt than the government.
@@nowhere529Well they're not selling any cars anyway so they have nothing to lose😂
The Government is supposed to work for us, NOT us working for them. Something is wrong here.
Fear must change sides.
read orwell’s 1984
Time to get id of Representative Democracy, replaced by Direct Democracy - People power, where the people vote online on all legislation. x
Yet you still vote for the same losers so stop complaining...
THE WEF wants to control you
Wouldn't it be great to make politicians and bureaucrats accountable for their dangerous decisions and actions ..
Like the French did in 1789.
Only depends on us, the people.
@@donwalsh9426not necessarily THAT way. Just if a politicians decision makes damage - jail sentence for that politician. And don't forget fines and mandates on em 😂
@@teolynx3805 But I'm okay with it being that way because those kinds of lessons last longer.
@@teolynx3805 Justice is tiered. Tickets to total. The trouble is that the damage is exceeding the reasonable ability to punish the behavior. The Japanese have the concept of Ikko-Ikki, which is a form of we're not going to take this any more. Desperate times require extreme corrections. Not a spank on the botty. Big ones for big damage.
We the public need to get rid of these regulators and our woke government.
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Similar reduction requirements were to be forced on farmers in many countries. We have to recognize it's not even about control. It's about getting rid of most of us.
In the US we voted for Trump hoping he would kill the EV mandates. Australia and the UK need to change who they elect.
In the UK our problem is that we did elect a Conservative party multiple times but they still implemented green policies. Our long-term plan has to be to give both of the main-stream parties a repeated kicking until they either fade away and get replaced with new parties or they manage to reform themselves into something less toxic to the general electorate.
And Chump is in Musks pocket???!!!
the USA is relying on billionaires... that won't end well they hate plebs like you...
@@michaelodwyer2815 nah Musk miscalculated. All he got was his fake department 😂😂
? Elon Musk is one of the biggest advocates of the "environmental" movements in shutting down all infrastructure related to fossil fuels
Elon musk is using his positions in D.O.D.G.E to implement laws making everyone's life in America more than unbearable
He will implement his ideology in place through tariffs etc to shut down "competition" from example China - BYD and fossil fuels to the west.
Who, in their right mind, would buy an expensive throw away car? 😅
I ask the same question, but it looks like 10% of UK buyers are that stupid.
More money than brains syndrome.
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2023 UK Government initiative
New plans setting out the government’s long-term aim to use fewer new resources, drive up the repair and reuse of existing materials, and increase recycling were announced by Environment Minister Rebecca Pow today (28 July).
The programme, called ‘Maximising Resources, Minimising Waste’ brings together a range of measures backed by government funding which will help to keep products and materials in circulation for as long as possible and at their highest value, including through increasing reuse, repair and remanufacture, helping to grow the economy and boost employment.
EVs fit that really well not
@@Wee_Langside Yes that's true EVs are a massive waste of resources, and are not designed to last creating huge amounts of waste. Not to mention the toxic pollution from them.
Yes who buys fossil cars?
The point of all this, is to remove private transport.
If driverless, electric mobile phones on wheels is all that's offered, that goal will soon be achieved.
I hope push bike dealers have their receipt books ready. Pretty soon, they'll be the go to vehicles for many.
@@noelgibson5956 and THAT is exactly what the big businesses, politicians and billionaires want!!!
Plus, they can turn your electric car off whenever they want to. Just like they did with electric air conditioning in Australia.
@@noelgibson5956 what is a push bike?
WEF AND THE CORRUPT UN ARE PUSHING THIS SHIT.
Governments interfering in the free market will always end badly. You cannot legislate what people want to buy.
government is always the problem when they extend their sticky hands into everyday lives of it's citizens
they can and will keep doing it tho
Unfortunately, governments can legislate what the public can't buy.
@@JoeBMancoIf people don't want to buy EV's, it should not be forced on them.
It's what they did during c0vid, some bank accounts or share portfolios need to be looked at.
We did not vote for these tyrannical restrictions!
We didn't vote for joining the war against our friends for the sake of our enemies either.
@@AA-le9lscivil disobedience! Be good, be a nice person - be the change you want to see.
We need alternative political parties not the 2 diff versions of the same thing.
@partymanau anarchism?? No ruler -- all is have to make choices and think.
@@partymanau There are many tricks to get rid of every politician who doesn't have the approved opinion on all subjects, for example calling him an "extremist", a "hater" or something similar, which makes it difficult for him to get votes. The fact that all established parties have the same agenda regardless of their colour is no coincidence.
Don't vote Labor Don't vote liberal Don't vote greens.
You forgot conservatives and Reform. I agree. Voting is a sacm anyway.
Spot on. These uniparty idiots will be out on their ear. They might succeed in saving their sorry asses by killing these regulations but Trump will drown the green scam and that wave will wash over Australia. Bye Bowen, Albo, Dutton, Brandt and the rest of the scumbags. Bye bye to solar panels and wind turbines. The USA walks away from this crap, the world will go with them. Somehow it feels like the earth is just starting to heal from the mind virus of the leftie/greenie pricks.
There is no voting solution to this
@@3UZFE Indeed, you can vote socialists in, getting them out generally requires something other than voting. Keep your powder dry!
GeoffBuysCars says pitchforks, but probably not enough.
It is time to protest against the EV mandates. Governments need to get out of our lives people mostly drive petrol and diesel cars.
What we do in Australia makes no difference to the worlds CO2 as we only produce 1.4%.
Stop buying anything from China and India will reduce the worlds CO2 further than anything we can do.
correction, 10 years from now, most people will be in EV's...look at the sales of Chinese EVs world wide, then have a look at the financial trouble American, European and Japanese car makers are in...they are closing factories, laying off workers and cutting their salaries......legacy car makers are going to disappear if they keep their head buried in the sand and ignore the EV revolution.
It’s time for Australia to become a free country again. Our heroic diggers didn’t die in wars to have this treachery imposed on the country they loved. Disgusting!
we could say the same here in germany.....
@@stratman9449 And UK.
@@stratman9449 Germany is one of the leading countries in Europe and the world regarding e-mobility, one thing we can be really proud of.
My father lost his leg in Ww2 New Guinea. He loved his Mercedes and was an early Mazda buyer in Australia ( when people said , ‘ I would never buy Japanese rubbish ’as an electrical engineer he was always banging on about how electric cars would take off once they solved the battery equation. Now they have solved it. And a warning to you. Be careful how you play the Digger card , mate.
@@raoulheinrichvonmerten4851 given one of my Grandfathers died fighting for this country I’m okay playing the digger card. I know damn well what he died for!! You miss the point entirely. It’s not about whether electric cars are good or bad. It’s about being dictated to by authoritarian governments. Thats what they fought against…or thought they where anyway!
I will never own an awful EV no matter what government forces me to do, and from now on I won’t be buying any new car of any sort because of the annoying tech. It’s pre owned cars for me from now on.
you're not the only one.
Never have, never will. Each model has to prove istelf first, then buy the most reliable model in good condition second hand. Has worked well for us for 40 + years
@@laceyunderall68 BAN EVS!!!
*BEV* = Ban Exploding Vehicles
New cars are plastic filled crap anyway. I’ll drive my 2003 Toyota Sequoia until the damn wheels fall off!
I have an EV, and I recommend a diesel!
I trust you park it far from your house then..........
i've had a diesel for 10 years (all my company cars before wer diesel too) and i don't "recomend" a "EV"......but hey...whatever sails your boat.
@@stratman9449 my comments get deleted by YT, so I will let you work it out!
It’s not that people shouldn’t be able to buy an EV. It’s that people are being penalized for NOT owning one.
Buy your new or near new diesel now before they are next to impossible to get hold of.
Why does the industry comply with the ridiculous government demands? If I was an automaker I would pull the whole brand out of the country.
Or just don't pay the fine.
The CEOs get replaced, the share/stake holder pressure, DEI / ESG requirements push anyone sensible out. A zombie loyal to the global govt replace them.
That, for me, is the BIG question. They are only shouting up for "more consumer incentives" not "freedom of choice"
Thats part of the problem. Part of industry mgmt believes the global warming doom scenarios and the rest are too chicken to push back or have bought in to the grift.
The uniparty must be voted out this year! NON plugin hybrids will reign supreme....FUCK BUYING a pure EV...I'll be sticking with ICE cars
Me 2 ALFA Busso 3.2 the good looking car and good sound
@@chavale2 I'm currently driving my dad's 2009 Toyota Aurion Sportivo SX6. It's a beast done 237329KM on the odometer. My dad upgraded to a 2020 Toyota Camry Hybrid. I'll be buying the Aurion off my dad later this year gotta save up.
The hivemind will not vote out the uniparty.
@@Epic3032 if you still think that voting changes things....
@@christianmagno984 Voting is an illusion, what will change if Australians wake the fuck up and realise they work for the WEF....if they hopped onto their website then they'll realise it ISN'T a conspiracy.
Join Reform UK 🇬🇧
We need a Reform AUS
@@TheBjp0001 Aus is paradise compared to what the UK has become, I visited WA.
Let's hope that Donald Trump puts an end to the climate hysteria.
😂😂😂😂
Oh yes, with Musk whispering in his ear, I'm sure he'll do exactly that...
@TarnishPrower The last time he was president, he left the Paris agreement and he has said that he will do it again, as well as to tackle climate religion.And if the US puts down the climate religion, Europe will be forced to follow suit or perish.
Yeah let's all follow the Pied Piper.
@@TarnishPrower "With Musk whispering in his ear" Trump is telling Starmer that he needs to forget the Net-Zero stuff and get fracking....
It's almost like the governments around the world are working together.
Yep... one world government, run by you know who..😈
its called WEF
The WEF have captured most governments now by their own admittance. The public just roll over.
It's the UN who are driving all this!
they are
I'm hanging on to my petrol sedan and maintaining it regularly for as long as I can. This whole mandated sh*t fight will turn Australia into Cuba, with ancient vehicles on every street.🤬
no, they will ban them or just make petrol so expensive only the rich will be able to afford it, which was of course the plan all along, you walk or bike while your betters drive and fly.
you know it makes sense.
Thats not such a bad thing, I think Cars peaked just before steering assist and constant beeping became common.
Agreed.
The Western world is ruled by the psychology inept.
Er. Yes. Good idea. Great! - Right up to the point that they ban repairs ..... 🤕🤕
That is the plan. The elites have had enough of the poors having cars. it's time to push them onto buses so the elite can travel to work in their nice EV in comfort For working people, tough luck.
To all Australians: Vote Labor out. It's our only chance of getting the country back on track.
yes...but who voted them "in"....??
@@stratman9449 33% of my fellow Australians and the disastrous consequences of our preferential voting system. Labor certainly didn't get my vote.
dont vote liberals either
100%
This country is an embarrassment on the world stage
TRue but at least the Citizens are standing up against forced electrics.
Nothing more inefficient than Government trying to pick technology winners.
Make it mandatory for ALL government vehicles and politicians private vehicles to be all-electric.
No govt employee should be allowed to use any ice vehicles in work time.
Pretty soon it will all grind to a halt.
now there is a good idea. And make all ambulances, fire trucks and police cars purely electric too. Lots see how long the politicians can hold on then!
😂
@@suecharnock9369 absolutely. Let them suffer their own ideas.
We in the uk don’t want are need them, this is a recipe for disaster, I am a owner of a MOT TESTING STATION we have ask many of customers many that are car repairers not one would advise anyone to buy a EV , all my private customers none will buy a EV .
I deal in the automotive industry.
One of those is teaching automotive technologies to workshop owners etc.
Everyone quickly understood that EVs are worst for the environment and their true aim is a transfer of power on both repairs and part sales.
The UK will soon ride camels considering the demography and politicians !!!
Of course, many car repairers don't like EVs. They don't break and repairers have nothing to do.
@@gerbre1 Actually this not the case. ICE cars are easy to repair in comparison. The most complex part of an ICE car is the engine which can last up to 500,000km or 25 years for reliable cars like Honda , Toyota and some Benz models. EV in comparison have simple engine (motor) but the complexity is the battery which is sealed and not repairable. With each passing year of having an EV the changes of a spontaneous fire increases. The reason is battery degradation, and failure of BMS components. A failed BMS chip will cause a fire. Compare it to an ICE car. A failed chip in the ECU will just cause the car to stop not burn to the ground.
@@dfloperStop telling fairytale stories. I recommend reading the Which used EV to buy guide from the EV clinic. They are repairing EVs for years now. Battery failures are no. 4 only on the list of EV failures. Many batteries can be repaired just by exchanging failed battery cells. Sealed batteries can be opened and resealed. Many batteries never fail, at 50% degradation the car just refuses to run.
Time to remind who the politicians work for, who pay their salary...
They think because they print money to pay themselves devaluing all the money in existence that you don't pay their salary.
I remember a time when EV’s weren’t selling before we were forced to buy them. I’m wrong, nobody is forcing us. They just don’t want us to have cars at all.
Spot on.That's the deeper narrative!
The EU(SSR) is in complete collapse now industry has lost access to cheap energy, along with the EV rules helping them fade away.
Great concluding statement. Two fingers indeed and then vote the nutters out.
We are screwed in Australia, as we have already learned that the incompetent li3bor government is terrible at maths,...and everything else!!!🤯😤
So labour party sucks on this topic. But which party is best / ok?
@msquar2ed Answer me one question? On what topics is li3bor good on?!
Except sucking and incompetence, as I honestly don't recall a single thing they have done that has been good for us, the Australian people?!🤔🤯😤
LNP are worse, learn to vote correctly or suffer...
@alwaysright3718 Um, what is the alternative, then?
Atlest the Liberals have more than one energy source that will work 24/7 365 days a year and wont need trillions of dollars of lines to connect it into the grids we already have, which is unlike li3bor, as our power is intermittent and extremely expensive due to their incompetence😤
@@azzajames7661 you are the problem...
1000’s of preregistration EV’s in the UK are clogging up airfields across the country. Apparently there are preregistration EV’s from 2022 still sitting unsold.
This is how they get away with their propaganda
I understand there are hundreds of thousands in China in the same situation.
The whole current government is on girl math logic....
excuse me! 'girl-math logic'! I suppose you thing 'man math logic' is better? 'man math logic' is what has forced us into this crap.
@@suecharnock9369 so easily triggered
@@suecharnock9369 hey Karen, still so easily triggered?
@@suecharnock9369
you have no idea what 'girl math' is do you 😆
What was that skit about, 2+2=22? Sounds like Labors grasp on maths!
The insanity of it. Here's the thing, back in 2003 I switched jobs to where I could mostly work from home, I literally went from 10-12kmiles/year to not even making 5kmi most for the next decade (mostly groceries, occasional other shopping). There are numerous ways you could incentivise people (and companies) to drive less that would accomplish cutting emissions more than these ridiculous mandates.
Oh yes. Peasants must not drive at all. Walk, ride trams, or better sit in their 15min cities and never go out.
Now that is smart thinking. Reduce your outgoings $. That is a self made way of improving your financials😅
Ditto. But here in the States all the big business types are forcing everyone back on the road. Traffic in the Washington DC region is already worse than it has ever been.
I think it's time these public servants started serving the public.
The West has Gone Mad !
It has been mad for a long time. Fighting your friends for the sake of your enemies is madness.
And India & China are just sitting back laughing at us.
The government has no clue about how to fil the gaps that this EV mandate will leave.....
*has no clue about anything if we are honest😒
There all more rons they carnt even run a lemonade stand !!
@@woofwoof9647 They can't even run a bath, never mind a lemonade stand🤣😂
I think most of those 'private' EV buyers were through the mobility scheme, which are heavily pushing EVs
Are we heading like Cuba? Oh dear, government never learn.
Here in the UK we have flooding and power outages along with the snow in the north and Scotland! All great conditions for EVs 😂
God forbid that you would want to keep the cabin of your EV warm in the winter. There goes your range.
@@chrisfallis5851Even worse. Imagine your car stood outside and is now covered with snow. You can remove some snow but the rest? In case of ICE waste heat will heat the interior and windshield so rest of snow and ice will unstick the car fall or melt. A EV has no power to get rid of snow the same way.
I feel sorry for the young people.
Time for a complete change. Everywhere.
Used car prices will rise.
Yes good older cars may even appreciate in time if well kept. Might be a good investment if you can store it off the ground.
Looking forward to my 2012 Aurion be worth more than it is now.
They already have, Getting a cheap run around in reasonable condition cost a lot more than it did a few years ago.
A constitutional lawyer needs to take a class action law suit on behalf of the Australian people, consumer against these "mandates" under restricting the rights to travel
Section 92 of the Australian Constitution. The term "intercourse" in Section 92 has been interpreted broadly by the High Court to include freedom of movement between states. This means that laws preventing or unreasonably restricting interstate travel could potentially be challenged as unconstitutional.
Past challenges under Section 92 have typically involved restrictions on trade or commerce, but the High Court’s interpretation of "intercourse" to include movement of people provides a plausible foundation for a case.
If a case were pursued, it would likely need to show that the mandates are not only burdensome but also unnecessary or premature, given current infrastructure limitations.
You can't sue a government that you elected...
I don’t see how the election is relevant. We know most Aussie voters are not paying attention and will keep voting Labor or Liberal that just do what the WEF tell them to do.
They were even trying to convince us to buy them through work, but when you worked it out, you were definitely not saving anything!
One thing to note is that not meeting the EV targets does NOT prevent the manufacturer from making and selling ICE vehicles....they just get heavily TAXED. And there my good friends is the goal of all of the 'net zero' mandates. Make regulations that cannot be met....to generate huge amounts of additional money coming in for them to squander. I pray that the USA will lead the way to common sense here shortly.
What have you ever bought where the seller didn't pass on the tax to you, the buyer?
Well Australia should have taxed the fossil fuel companies like Norway, instead of letting these companies pay no tax whatsoever.
@@JRNagel You should learn more about them before commenting. Of course you are just a Free Stuff person.
@@robertkubrick3738 your reply is nonsense.
@@JRNagel Thanks for proving you are incapable of doing the lightest research.
So much for Market Research
We can all see where this is going. Come 2030 Governments will have achieved their target. One hundred percent of all new cars sold will be EV's. The slight problem is that not one bought will be by a private vehicle driver. Well on the way then to WEF 15 minute cities!
Cold is better the government says. I can tell you now that sitting in my cold house is not very good. It’s not very comfortable the plants outside I’ve gone into winter mode. There’s no crops other than root vegetables and the government wants this. The government wants us to live in an area where it’s cold where there’s no food available and they want us to be happy. I tell you where I want to live. I want to live somewhere where it’s pleasantly warm and the crops and fruit grow in abundance.
I moved to the Philippines for my spinal arthritis, they get 3 crops a year. They only import rice because nobody wants to be a farmer.
Two fingers straight up at Albo and Chris Bowen. Both are foul.
In 2024 the tide turned against green zealots. An expensive luxury that most of us can't afford. Albo & Bowen have been found out and they will have their arses right royally kicked when the federal election is called.
😆😆😆 and.. the "opposition" has the same "policies"....
I was at a luncheon with Sussan Ley a few weeks ago. I asked what would a Zero Emissions World look like in 2050. I got that blank expression that has become familiar. Unfortunately,there is little difference between Labor and Liberal on zero emissions, with the exception of nuclear energy, and with all the barricades against the construction of nuclear energy, including green policies, greedy militant left wing unions, red tape and Aboriginal mysticism , the chance of that coming to fruition by 2050 is dismal.
We can only hope the Libs and Nats don't get voted in with their ridiculous nuclear nonsense. They are the ones who don't understand economics. By the time the first insanely expensive reactor is built - after years of delays, the planet will be fried, and climate and flood refugees will be banging on our doors.
We need more fossil fuels and more climate change. Both are massive net positives for the world. Climate change isn't just normal but good, far more people die from cold than heat, even in places like India. Warming isn't uniform, but concentrated in the coldest areas and coldest times. CO2 has a diminishing greenhouse effect, i.e. every molecule of CO2 we emit has less environmental impact than the last.
More CO2 means fewer cold deaths, more crop growth, more farmable land, and more fossil fuel use means fewer climate deaths, more climate control, more productivity, more industry, more innovation. We are nowhere near 'running out' of fossil fuels, and the next step up is nuclear, which is even more abundant.
Highly, highly recommend the book "Fossil Future" for a detailed breakdown of the above and more!
G'day MGuy..There seems to be alot of information about how bad EV's & Renewable Energy is..I think Governments are going to backflip..I feel that TRUMP will shine a light on this madness & other countries will follow suit behind..
Trump won't do anything.... Musk is his best buddy. 😉😆😆😆😆
It's all part of the WOKE agenda..But I do see the conflict of interest
@@johns2226No, Trump is Musk’s best buddy, but not the other way around. Musk threw in with Trump in a Hail Mary play to save his EV business, which has always relied on Govt subsidies & credits. It seems likely it’ll work until Trump and Musk have a falling out.
@@johns2226 Musk does so many other things other than EV's, plus is in favor of eliminating mandates and the $7500 Taxpayer funded rebate.
Hopefully soon when Casanova Bowen loses his seat and Elmer Fudd is forced first onto the opposition backbenches and then into retirement, much of this madness can be rolled back.
Not with Dutton the Darstadly ready to fill the Treasury benches !!!
@@paulreid2223 I don't think he'll have a choice. He'll likely be in a minority government and held to account at every step.
Get fined.
Shut the factory.
Move it somewhere sensible.
Tell the government to get stuffed.
See how that works out for the politicians.
sadly, it is going to be the only way to stop politicians from being paid fat fees to be told what to do by billionaires and big businesses.
I worked in local government. They get their vehicle's tax-free and pay a fraction of the registration fee for on-road use. For example, a twenty tonne truck is $150.00 per year. Compared to my car at $1800.00 per year. Our government is corrupt. And where I worked, the depreciation of a vehicle was 25% per year. Which means that the replacement vehicle costs were free after four years. Not bad if you're in government.
Sounds like there's going to be many well overstocked dealers' showrooms.
This year even less EVs! Are fleet buyers going to change their EVs every year? I think not!
Ev's are toys, nothing more. If you need to do more than 10 miles a day then forget it.
I'm driving 720 miles each week with two EVs, my private and my company car, works great.
I drive about 60km per day which depletes my battery by 10%....I recently went on a 1200 km road trip....no problems at all, chargers are everywhere here in Thailand and my EV is so much nicer to drive than a noisy vibrating ICE pouring poisonous fumes into the atmosphere....ICE cars are rapidly becoming obsolete.
@@martinwalker9234 Did you look at how many dirty resources it takes to build your car? Petroleum to mine the battery ingredients? How are you charging it? If with power from petroleum.....Maybe it is different in Thailand but don't try to make us all buy these cars.
@@CharleneWest-s9c I have no interest in how my car was made...the same as I have no interest in what was mined to make my tv/fridge/microwave (insert everything else I buy here)...I am charging it off solar panels, I generate between 10 and 50 kw hrs per day.....I am not trying to make you buy anything, I was simply replying to the guy who thinks EVs are toys which only do 10 miles per day......he is completely wrong, I and many others have proved EVs can be a practical replacement for petrol cars...better performance, cheaper to buy and run and so much nicer to drive.
PS. the device you typed your comment on most likely has a Li ion battery mined from the same dirty sources you are complaining about...
70 people have liked this post, which means 70 people believe a modern EV only does 10 miles on a battery charge......oh dear......
It's getting profoundly ridiculous and threatening now with this green garbage.
I'm sure pre registered (second hand ) cars imported from japan will be big business in the future
These limits are hilarious. A Tesla Y, so FULLY ELECTRIC, if charged at night time in NSW, QLD or VIC, emits over 100g/km of CO2. THe emission is of course at the power station, but it is still CAUSED by the Tesla. So the Tesla does not meet 2029 emissions LOL LOL LOL.
Counting the CO2 to build them, they would be so far in the hole they make a 4x4 ute look environmentally conscious.
Yes exactly by the time you take the Carbon footprint to build the battery from mining to fitting in the car you are way behind the "Planet saving" 8 ball. Then there's the fossil fired power wasted charging the Battery for the power to cart the Battery about. By the time your electric planet saver has reached the carbon zero balance and you actually might start to save the Planet it will be due for the scrap heap. that's of course if the Batery actually lasts that long. If it needs to be replaced mid stream then you'll never reach Net Zero. There's also the Deisel powered charging stations in the Outback that will add to the Carbon negativity figures.
They don't care about Co2 just getting your $$$
That’s why all of the mandates revolve around tailpipe emissions. It’s a lie, plain & simple.
Blackout Bowen : explain that to me like I am 5
I just don't understand how many tons of immisions from the trucks and diggers spue out digging for the chemicals to make one battery it's definitely a one sided argument
And the bunker fuel the ships use. Cars aren't even 10% of global emissions and if they all disappeared tomorrow they would move on to the next thing to make your life miserable.
*Meanwhile on Average there are 205,468 Aircraft Flights EVERYDAY !*
And your point is...? Air transport is (so far) very hard to decarbonise, unlike land transport. Followers of the oil and petrol cult would prefer paying obscene amounts to oil barons and watch the planet go up in smoke than embrace progress, which is what emissions standards is about. All countries have them but Russia and Australia, and we keep whingeing how bad they are for us poor fossil fuel-addicted dinosaurs. In Norway 89% of new cars are now EVs, and it's a damn cold country. They're just way smarter than us, that's all.
BRAVO MR MGUY Thanks heap mate from BJ AUST
I didn't know Blow Job, Australia was a place. That's funny.
6.55 this is what we have in the Netherlands and it has made prices of new vehicles that they see as polluting but 10 years ago were the standard skyrocket.. as an example a Yaris GR msrp is 36 to 40 thousand dollars.. here that same car costs almost double 76 thousand dollars/euro only due to environmental CO2 taxes. which if you think about it is actually taxing people for literal air you exhale..
Car makers should make a united front against the politcians So NO to this climate crap....
BUT car manufacturers started it! they wanted to 'encourage' us to buy more vehicles and started giving more and more useless gimmick crap on their vehicles to try and persuade us that we were getting something exciting, better and new. When that didnt work they opted to lobbying governments to force us to have it - and now this has led them to all of this. They started this. if it ends with their demise, then the fools are them.
True, GM, Ford, Toyota, VW could assemble a billion dollar war chest and break these Woke politicians.
The laws of physics will not change for rightwing anti-climate crap.
Yep that Bowen law needs to be revoked
Can't come soon enough we have similar stupid ev lunacy here in nz
The only person who benefits from all these mandates is Elon Musk - he sells not only EVs but also CO2 credits to ICE car and truck manufacturers in different countries (in fact, half of Tesla profit comes from selling CO2 credits)
More than half.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul ? Sounds a bit like the possible lunacy here in NZ where good farming land maybe turned into forestry to grow Carbon credits to sell to the big polluters. The trees will probably never be harvested so no jobs from that. All this will not reduce the Worlds Pollution. Together with Solar Farms and Growing crops to turn into fuel thus reducing the space for food production.
All of Tesla's profit comes from that.
That's an awful lot of rules and regulations for an appliance.
Yes. The mandates are punitive and unnecessary.
No buyers, no business!
I just bought myself a low mileage new looking 2021 petrol VW Arteon. I’ll be running it for years. It fills up in about 6 minutes in one of the 1000’ s of petrol stations.
They're also completely ignoring the C02 utilized in the creation of the EV and its charging. With EVs, you aren't reducing C02; you're increasing it; you're just offsetting the C02 source.
Carbon dioxide isn't even changing the weather.. 😅
CO2 HAS NO IMPACT ON CLIMATE.
exactly.
The rising atmospheric carbon concentration is changing the climate and damaging ecosystems. Learn the difference.
I bought a 2022 Subaru Outback, a fantastic all rounder. However, I fear it's my last ever new petrol car as they are now far too expensive, plagued with electronic interventions and super irritating audible speed warnings. It's going to be fantastic second hand older cars for me now that do not have the useless speed warnings or electric batteries. I'll come back to the table once sanity returns, the EV mandates removed and prices return to sane levels.
What about the CO2 emitted in the production of EVs ?? Doesn't that count as pollution regardless of when its emitted ?
Yes, and it’s factored in the total lifetime emissions of all vehicles including EVs.
As are the emissions from driving the vehicle and making & delivering the fuel.
Over the full lifetime of the vehicle, EVs emit much less C02 than ICE vehicles.
Yes BEVs have more embedded emissions at the showroom floor stage, but after that those emissions are far lower than ICE. Just how much lower depends on whether it is mainly charged by electricity produced by RE, gas, coal, nuclear, hydro, etc. Depending on the number of Km driven each year, an EV will generally break even emissions wise with an ICE car at around the 3-4 year mark. After that, the ICE vehicle is environmentally worse as not only does it create emissions when that fuel is burnt, emissions are created from extracting, transporting, refining, transporting & selling that fuel.
Then, when scrapped, there is a higher environmental payback by EVs. The minerals in the battery can be recycled - reducing the embedded emissions of the next EV made.
@@markboscawen8330 Thanks! Finally an educated, informed comment. Too many comments here reveal profound ignorance and uncritical deference to the powerful oil mafia that wants to keep humanity hooked on burning oil - even though their own bosses have known for more than 50 years that it's making the planet unlivable.
One solution of many: Do Not Comply
I do not cosent
This is a Rebellion? I rebel. Best line ever out of a woke start wars movie.
I think the whole market will grind to a halt and with that the economy
just as planned
@Nordic_Mechanic it's a bad plan
I think that someone ought to design an aftermarket coal stove that can be fitted into the rear seat area of EVs to provide heat in the cold months. People vould then buy high sulfer content coal and drive around your capital belching black smelly soot to let politicians know what you think of their emissions regulations.
Any discussion about ecology would be far easier if two areas were taken out from the table. Home heating and individual mobility.
Just another reason, in a long list, to vote Labor out of office in this year’s election.
As with the UK, EVs in Australia need to come with crocodile clips to attach to politicians! Call it "Vehicle to get rid"!
Who's going to fix their roads, plumbing, gas or water networks when hard working Aussies can't afford the trade vehicles they need or worse aren't available at all? Are they trying to bankrupt what's left of our country with this?
Next step will be penalising people who drive older cars. These people hate you.
Never mind the price, rapid devaluation and charging issues. I wouldn't have one for free due to the safety risks.
Back in the real world...I had to take my father to hospital today (slipped on ice and cracked his head), I had choice of petrol or diesel 4x4, and based our trip on potential bad weather chose the diesel 4x4. On the way I said to my father that I was so happy not to have had an EV based on no charger at the hospital, if there was, would it be working or available, then how many trips we may have to make based on the unknown if kept in. You are all intelligent people and you can join the dots here...5 mins filling up with diesel if we had to or add to the stress with faffing with charging. These overlords simply don't care that this battery technology is being rushed.
I wish Trump would deregulate vehicles that weigh less than 2,400 pounds so that small cars are affordable to more Americans. Non hybrid small cars that get 45 mpg could become popular and fun to drive.
Big cars should become popular again. Large sedans and wagons were outlawed by CAFE but are more efficient than the full-size SUVs that replaced them.
The government doesn't care about pollution as long as they get paid.
When I graduated high school I really wanted to move to Australia.
Sure glad I didn't figure out how to make that work.
If the populous is fighting THEIR government, then it is no longer a democracy.
Australia, I thought you guys are a democracy?
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If you want transition to EVs
1: make them as good /better than ICE.
2:have transition style vehicle (hybrid) that are not under threat of being banned within 10 years. At the rate their going, we may as well go back 110 years to horse and cart, that's evolution for you.
What about horse farts?
What I don't get, I do really, is that if the Govt. is so worried about emissions why are they allowing sales of our resources overseas and promoting things like tourism which relies on planes and ships to bring people here and take them home again?
I mean when you look at how many planes take off and land every day and how much the air quality improves when they're forced to stay in one place for whatever reason it seems ano brainer really.
Could it have anything to do with money and bending taxpayers over is just easier and less costly for the economy?
Tourism is another thing on their cards. You won't be going anywhere by 2030. The plan is for the majority of UK airports to close. They're already upping air taxes next year. Haven't you heard of C40 and 15 minute cities?
@@paul756uk2 I try not to get caught up in all the social media bedwetting tbh.
I actually think that the 15 min. city is a good idea, at least until social media got a hold of it.
@oldbloke204 the term 15 minute cities is coined to suck in bed wetters like you into thinking they're a good idea. Being an old bloke you might want to consider yourself lucky you might not be around when they're implemented. Otherwise, enjoy your slavery.
Even with a charging station on every corner i wouldn't want one. Just too inconvenient and not in synch with my lifestyle. NEVER.
My first question to these foolish politicians. “How many of you are currently driving EVs?”
Let’s have a Referendum.
I think I may be like a lot of Aussies whose lifestyle will not accommodate a BEV. I will, if I ever buy a new car, pay the new tax (emissions standard). In the interim I will let my vote speak for the Aussie motorist.
3 people I know have bought EVs, I dont want to ruin the friendship by telling them that I hope they did not buy them because they thought that they were doing something to "Save the Planet".
The few I know who have bought them did it for cheap mileage. Thats because they dont pay road tax at the moment. This will change soon. Combine that with increasing insurance costs and zero resale value. Us Hydrocarbon fans will have last laugh.
@@partymanau Amen to that.
And there lies the problem.
Not enough people are speaking out when they know EV's are damaging the environment and are hopeless as transport.