2019 NEW Abu Garcia Revo Beast 40 Detailed Analysis - Teardown
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Afron is a good guy, glad to see you guys getting in contact. He definitely makes good lures too. Seen him on the water but never had a chance to fish with him yet.
I just started following you I do like how you go in detail on things I do love my Abu Garcia's
Enjoy watching your videos, it definitely helps me make better decisions.
Awesome vid as usual! Regarding the drag question at around the 31 minute mark...There are two schools of thought on this, and it has been debated before on Alan Tani's site.1) use a carbon fiber under gear washer, and try and squeeze a few more pounds of drag out of the reel.2) use a delrin (or similar) under gear washer, let the drag be created in the stack of keyed and eared washers.The delrin will allow for the smoothest possible drag, even at higher settings.I personally subscribe with theory 2, but everyone is different...
More importantly, take into account the style of reel (conventional vs levelwind), quality of build and components (SS vs brass or aluminum), and reel size, and determine what you feel is a usable drag for a particular reel. We all know they can print anything on the side of a box, and the reel may do it, but probably not for long! just my .02$
lol...that said, i do have a Tiburon framed Senator with cf under the gear that is a mini winch...but it also has SS aftermarket gear sleeve and just about every other beefed up part available..
Brett
Yay more videos! One of my favorite channels by a mile. I can't wait for a tatula 100 review.
The single knob handle allows you to keep your hand closer to the reel. A matter of ergonomics. For me, it lets you apply more cranking power without the opposite handle obstructing the way as you crank the handle with your hand close to the reel. The negative of having a single knob is you tend to fumble looking for the knob if you are used to a two knob handle. Takes some getting used to.
I'm getting this beast soon.. Just wondered what's wrong internally with the drag test.. Hope u have a follow up video soon. Thanks!!
Watching this video because I'm finally upgrading from my old round bodied Abu, and wondering when/how often should I oil or have the reels serviced? Mine are basically used heavy in the summer then put up clean, so they get fairly low miles. Appreciate the in depth and straight forward information!
Just got mine. Feels amazing out the box. It spins like crazy!!
Its a great reel... Only gripe is the non handle side plate moves a bit when palming and winching.. Not much but it's there.. I like it better than the 400$ beast
@@TackleAdvisors ooh shit. The tranx doesnt!! Will be coool to see if i will notice that! When winching in general or fighting fish?
I think the washer under the break is made from Pertinax , no bad choice from Shimano, its a protection against heat from the break , so the frame or plastic gears cannot be damaged , its a thermic isolation .
One of the best reels, I have tried.
Sounds like the only one you tried lmao 😂
Good video as always. You think they just put 30lb drag on it to widen the usable range of the drag? Some smallish baitcasters it seems like its either on or off but I have the NaCl and it seems to have a wider range of usable smooth drag.
Great videos and very educational.
What's your thoughts on the Shimano Saros
Great video as usual. Thank You!
Hi,
Base on your experience what bait cating reel model would you recommend regarding durability and smoothness.
Thank you!
One failure my friend encounter is the star drag threading give way in high drag setting. The star drag material might not be as tough like those Shimano using a metal screw
Check out the penn fathom and torque lever drags they are the new Tuna killers and big game they incorporate a thrust bearing to fix the problem of the side load
I dig the fathoms! Haven't pulled on the new torques though....They looks really sweet though
I have that same reel and I also have the jdm version called the revo big shooter and the jdm version big shooter is much smoother and it also has a click drag that the usdm doesn’t have I wonder if the reels Abu sends to japan have better quality control ? GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS When are you going to show the concepts Z results I can’t wait to see them👍
I remember the older versions had the lighter finish with the claw marks on the side. They have kinda done the more rugged look most of the stout reels have like the Komodo and even the wide Lew's.
That's one thing I like with the Lew's and Abu's, the lube port location helps for midseason maintenance when you don't have time to just strip it all down
Nice teardown, are you gonna put up another video of the problem?
32:00 they might have went woth that material for a certain property i remember seing some one repair an old bridgeport milling machine and it had a carbon steel gear with teeth made from that dark orange material
Man I'm really torn between this and picking up the original toro winch 60. The older Toro has the bait clicker, which is nice to have. I really don't know why they don't include them more on this class of reel. The OG toro and the inshore both had them. They were regressed into the soleplate enough to not be in the way at all.
Please review Abu garcia revo rocket . thinking of getting one
Was wondering how to purge bearings. Possible for a video on that?
Hi can you do a review about Abu Garcia Revo ALC - BF7 and compare to Shimano Aldebaran BFS XG.
Thank you !
Hey buddy, great review and tear down. I had the lefty version of this. Hook up 1 goalith Grouper and that was it. Same buzzing sound haha. According to one of my local reel mechanics, this new beast can't really withstand any 15lb above drag pressure. Yes I mean yes you can hit 25-30lb but just 1 time and that's it. Same buzzing sound with the need to overhaul the main gear and pinion.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
So it’s toast now I hope the warranty is still good 👍🏻
Make a review or comparison of kastking spartkus maximus baitcaster. Its a deeper spool reel, would be interesting to see how it stands out against abu beast x or different reel in that sizs
nice vid as usual! Did you already get your hands on the new Daiwa Prorex V LT Series? They are more expensive with lesser features than the Fuego LT...?!
Thanks man! Nah. Pro Rex aren't us market reels. So i haven't focused on them much honestly.
What’s your opinion on the Revo ALX? I’m thinking about getting one.
My friend, the orange part is call wet drag 🙂
Cool editing 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks brotha!!!! The whole vid is a "special effect"
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Ditch the plastic gears for brass, phenolic drag "washer" for heat disappation& wear& spacing?
I think the resin component is higher drag than you may expect. It may only be there as a last-gasp safety. Greased carbon probably doesn't have as much stiction as the resin on brass so you're likely running on the carbon most of the time. Also, the resin will not leave carbon dust on the gears, which is important. That carbon fiber dust will wear gears, so it's better that it's captured in the stack the way it is.
That is one of the only reasons that I can come up with for why they don't go some sort of carbon. Carbon dust is no Bueno
I wonder if Afron regrets sending this..lol
Man, everyone loves an auld sticker 😆
Try fishing with thick gloves and then tell me if if the "one knob handle" makes it easier.. remember irs swedish superior design and they dont make mistakes
Same thing on my Ambassedeur Revo Inshore, handles are the same size...
this is like the reel test, but better
The reel test is shimano fanboy
If only they added a bearing to support the pinion. Would have made the reel much more reliable. Love your tear downs of reels, I wish I could rip apart all the reels at the tackle store I work at, so this helps a lot! Thanks
This reel is super reliable, noone should ever go above 10 or 12 lbs on a low profile... its not what they are for, ive had 1 of them for 2 years, i use them for swimbait fishing down in florida, ive cought 2 10lb bass, 3 7s and countless 5s on it, along with 2 blue cats i accidently cought, one weighd 17lbs the other 11lbs, not a single issue ever, also have a tranx 300 and it has worn out faster, still good but not like when it was new, the revo still feels like a new reel
27:40 like you're diffusing a bomb lol...Would you recommend this over the non-HD Lexa 300?
I think you for your advice.What do you think of the record 50?
friend which of these three reels do you recommend revo beast 41,. daiwa lexa wn 300 or tranx 300 which is stronger and more durable
Informative video, I appreciate the time you take to explain the technology & what the manufacturer is trying to accomplish. Off topic question, do you use shields on your ceramic bearings? Boca sent me sum for my Tatula type R that I had to remove cuz they were pinched & counterproductive. I put a drop of TSI oil on them, so far so good just curious about long term affect.
I'd love to see you do a teardown and review of the Tsunami Evict. It's the first spinning reel i've seen under $200 with stainless steel gears.
I think Josh from jandh has one on the way
One of my friends from one of the shops that supplied me with lots of gear just called. I should have all sizes either tormorrow or friday to play with. Which size should I tear down?
@@TackleAdvisors 2000 would be great!
Do you recommend this reel? or the shimano tranx? or the upcoming DAIWA ZILLION TW HD?
Awesome video, got to get me some of those baits
He makes some unique stuff extra stout hardware on lots of his stuff.
Tackle Advisors that’s awesome I have unfortunately broke my share of spinnerbaits in my lifetime.
@@TheKingzfan you and me both. My record was 4 in one night.......greatest night of largemouth bass fishing of my life....6 fish over 23 inches.........and a dozen fish between 18 and 21. Which I'm willing to bet in the history of New Jersey......has never happened. Booyah moon talkers.......Funny thing is..that was back in 2012...I've caught 3 fish on em since at night....go friggin figure.
SO would this handle well for saltwater use ?
This is why I'm so advising to people "ahh I want carbontex in my Chronarch 50e to chase Barra" - nek minute sounds like a salt & pepper grinder.
The amount of pressure on those teeth between the main & pinion and only being brass (not any notable brass / bronze alloy either) - possibly why Shimano employ the MM gears for the larger amount of teeth engagement 🆚 surface area %. Mind you I've heard of quiet a few MM gear sets blowing up now and going extremely geary.
Fish the reel within its design & means and it'll last, even if the reel has some astronomical high drag claims.
Umpteeenth time watching this clip. Got Curado and got Tatula. Had Komodo and other Abus but not this one and I can see the factory from my window. Kind of feels a bit sad not using this reel for my pike fishing, alreast designed in the vicinity manufactured in chinesium.
May you link the casting comparison test please?
It's worth 100 $ plus for Aldebaran BFS XG comparing to Abu Garcia Revo ALC - BF7 price ?
Great video, love these extended tear downs on reels.
Thanks Zach! Glad you enjoy em!
Reel amazing
Any comparison on Toro beast & revo toro beast?
brother I lost the schematics book for the reel do you have the part numbers for the springs inside
Sounds like a lews speed spool after that drag test 😶
What kind of braid is that? It looks nice, I like the color. Great video
Thanks man. 50lb finatic pro braid
Tackle Advisors Thanks for your quick response man, will check it out and buy it, it looks nice, no problem bro, i really like your videos, keep it up bro,
hello, you think that reel can launch up to how much gram
Please take apart and review the new tsunami evict. they look interesting...
I just did. All 4 of them :)
Can I ask what size philips head pozidrive screwdriver you are using?
Do you recomend this reel for pike fishing and maybe wels catfish rarely hooking?Or the drag is a problem that worries you...
It's up to the task. No doubt. Very strong drag... Very smooth drag
Wera are awesome tools
Tell him to send you his Hobie for you to review
I’m getting mixed messages about lubing ceramic bearings, what’s your take on this? I have some super bearing lube just waiting to use it (if need be).
It's really up to you. I run ultra finesse bearings as dry as possible. All other bearings I add 1 drop and clean them out prior to reapplying. I'll cut oils with isoproply alcohol so 1 drop = even less by the time the alc evaps.
And I generally use tsi 321 in fishing applications. Can't go wrong with that stuff.
Should I purchase this reel for 240$. Do you think that's a good deal for this reel?
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Hold on did he damage the spool at the end of it?
In comparison is the drive gear diameter bigger than the revo s let's say? I would like to do some heavy cover fishing and we all know that style requires so much power from our equipments..bigger is better
Hmmm good question. I'm not too sure. Are the part numbers on the schematics the same?
So I just got this reel. And ofcoure I saw this video after buying it. Have you fished with this reel after getting a new one? Have you noticed this problem while fishing?
I own a tranx 301 too and I must say that this abu feels just as good, but this is worrisome. Which one would you say is better?
How would you compare the 2? Any difference in physical size between them?
They are about the same width but the beast is defently lower and lighter. I have actually been fishing with the Beast more than the Tranx just because of that. The Tranx casts smoother, but the Beast feels smoother reeling it. Both are excellent reels.
Too big for the weight of the lure 10-30 grams?
looking at getting this reel, trying to do some inshore fishing for stripes and blues in the bay on the yak, also wouldnt mind using it for musky in fresh water. what rod would you recommend for something like that. and i cant decide between the 40 50 60 ugh
or even the daiwa lexa ?
Just buy a tranx 300
Hmm to get this or the tranx 300
i think different and more drag power on half spool capacity....
Do they sell schmoo at Tackle Warehouse? I’m having trouble finding it.
Isle 9 next to the coco puffs
I think AVE has the market cornered up in Canada.
Reassembly didnt go as planned.
This video translates into me buy a new reel.
The "new penn fathom 300" is exactly the same reel abu revo beast 40
Hello. Do you think there is a chance of accidentally opening the case cover while fishing? I watched the video completely, but I do not understand your language, I use a translator for the text.
I doubt it. That would take a bit of specific steps
What happened at the end to the reel
nice looking reel though!what did abu do to correct the issue bud?
They just emailed me directly today sending me 2 new replacements. One to replace the damaged one and one for me. I knew about the replacement of one the day of. Through a contact at penn/pure fishing. Was nice to see they offered me one as a bonus.
@@TackleAdvisors that's sweet! I must say, I've had very good service from a lot of the reel companies dude, shimano, lews, quantum and daiwa. It's nice to see that in the industry. I mean like I know some people have their moment but from my experiences it's been very positive. Well actually there were two incidents with 13 fishing but that's for another time.
So I just got this reel, guess I shoulda watched this video first
Any reason I send it back for something else?
Btw the weedless Warbaits Market Squid is my goto, everything just seems to love it, I generally put a twin tail grub on it and hook em up!
It's an excellent reel overall... Despite the drag snafu... I've put quite a few fish on it this season and thoroughly enjoy it... Stripers to mid 20#s handled it without issue. Great caster too
@@TackleAdvisors thanks man! I'll just keep it and not test the drag lol
Lolol... Yeah.. For what it's worth.. That sucked lol
@@TackleAdvisors how do you think the abu stack's up against a lexa hd? I just lost my tranx rig and replaced it with this.
This Beast reel how can you compare to daiwa steez ct sv tw 70 Xh and the shimano antares dc and Calcutta dc
It's larger in a low profile package. Massive power for its gear ratio. Casting is very good but not DC. Much hotter casting than CT SV but 2x the size. The new beast is one of my new favorite big low pros. Don't expect the beast to handle light weights like the others. I use it for swimbait and musky and Stripers /bluefish
I do catfish gear and everyone talks about drag all the time, but I never use more than 5 pounds of drag. Never. Sometimes I gently thumb the spool for a second or two - on spinning or baitcasting - and that's it. Even catfish doesn't need 30 pounds of drag. And you very right about musky. I have the full video of 40" musky on a ultralight... i don't know if that fish took even 10 yards of line with 2 pounds of pressure.. With all of that said, this failure is a little disapointing. I don't care how strong the drag is, but this kind of pressure can accidentally occur. What if ur drag was tightened because u were setting the hook on a bass and wanted to avoid slip so to drive the hook in. What if then u accidentally u snag a 20 pound carp? Your drag is tightened and the first pull will be nasty. This would perfectly replicate your test and that super expensive reel will be ruined.
For reel. 5lbs is quite a bit. For rambling hooksets on bass gear around cover I like 5 to 7. Stripers and boofish 7 to 12 and tuna shark and swords 18 to 30.
I_fish, the amount of drag you need is dependant on species and location. Open water blues in a lake or off a boat in a river, 5lbs is fine. Flatheads out of heavy cover, or blues and flatheads out of heavy current and you are better off with more drag. 10lbs is not enough drag to turn a 40in flathead that decides to run with the current and allowing a fish that is notorious for seeking out snags that kind of room to run is a fool's game; eventually the fact that these fish have the potential to eclipse 100lbs will catch up to you if you are not using the appropriate gear.
And, muskie do fight like wet rags and should not be considered when discussing fish fighting potential. The main reason you want that extra drag for muskie fishing is to ensure positive hooksets in their bony mouth.
Finally, if you need to thumb the spool while fighting fish, you either need to turn your drag up or upgrade your gear.
@@nicks2581 - muskie fight like wet rags? LOL! You're mistaken them for Walleye..
Is it worth the extra money over a lexa 300 for bass fishing? You could buy 2 lexa 300 for the price of this reel.
Not unless you want a bit more refinement. You're thinkin swimbaits right? Both would do the job pretty equally. Never fished this one but the lexa was very good. Can't see this doing anything much better outside of feel.
I have two of each. For casting swim baits. Revo hands down. For chunking I like the Lexa. However my lexa has broke twice. I have to lift thumb bar to engage drive gear. Never a problem with any of my 6 Abu revo’s
Do you recommend upgrading to carbon washers in a Curado K? I see they sell them at eBay, but is it worth it?
Hi can you please tell me what are your top 2 or 3 old baitcasters and top 2 or 3 new ones? Thank you
Daiwa tdz. Daiwa pixilla. Original Shimano bantam. Morrum zx 6500 Toss a team Daiwa x in there as well. New. Shimano aldebaran bfs. Tranx 500 steez sv tws, Calcutta te DC
You're welcome
Thanks alot all out my $ rag lol. Any good baitcaster $100 $250 rag iyo???
Need a good spinning reel. For freshwater. Want to keep it around a 2500 size. Don’t know what reel to get. Around $100
Dylan Goss I would highly suggest the Daiwa Fuego, it’s a really great feel for the price, and you can normally find them around $60-80.
Really can't go wrong with the BG, Nasci, Fuego or the okuma epixor xt
You keep comparing to the 13z3 but I haven't heard a final verdict on if the z3 is any good?
What’s your favorite braided line to use?
I use a bunch. My favorite I can't recommend because I've seen on the web and a friend have major identical issues. And it's fins 40g (5lb test... It's really 10lb diameter). Never have used a line that handled so well and lasted like new so long. 2 full seasons on a spinner and I still saved it when I moved on to try other lines. That's the only real stand out in the light lines. Fireline Ultra 8 is great but needs fancy knots for good break strengths. My all time favorite might be fireline tracer braid (haven't used the new stuff). I use a bunch of new braids every year and more and more they differ less. Only thing is the super slick lines like ultra 8, gliss and nanofil hate regular knots
The anti reverse pawl has been activated and the soft metal on it bites onto the clutch disc. This will probably be the reason why the reel can still turn but has roughen up. The freespool will not be affected by this fail safe.
I think he should have done the test before he took it apart .
So after the anti reverse pawl is activated the reel will always feel this way?
@@Berto-1117 It should still be smooth but the anti reverse BB (1 way BB) is damage, causing the pawl to activate as a failsafe to protect the user. So probably will behave like old Abus like 4500C non IAR models.
That's why Shimano and Daiwa's reels have bearing on the pinion gear, and the drag is limited to 10-11lb - not to break the reel. Abu knows about that problem but why to solve it? If the costumers break there reels they buy new ones, this is how Abu can sell more and make more profit. This is the only video about Abu that shows the worst problem with there low profile reels for heavy fishing, the reels with SHORT spool shaft the problem is even worst. Thank you for the video Sir, you have open eyes to many anglers. People have to watch this video before buy Abu low profile reels for heavy fishing. Do it before Abu ask the owner to take it down.
Youl will not have any issues if you dont go about 12lbs, itll last as long as a tranx, ive had both for 2 years, if youre reffering to the lexa i would not put it in the same league as the revo beast, or tranx, or komodo, the lexa is inferior (the regular one) also i have doubts about the bearing on the pinion gear, i dont even see that on heavy duty saltwater reels, its more of s gimick imo, if you look at the way the shaft goes into these reels, there isnt much for that bearing to really support. For fresh water abu garcia is a top brand no question of it, dont be brand loyal
Saltiga 35 jigging reel which handles 80lb braid has max drag of 22lb. Arms almost gave out at around 16lb.
33lb on a baitcaster... LOL
Someone has to work out.. Lol.. Kidding... I set most of my joggers at 18 lbs.. And trolling around 21 - 25...little 12oz reels can stop some large.. But for how long
@@TackleAdvisors yea. I guess its just one way for manufactures to provide that WOW factor and differentiate themselves from the rest.
Is the Beast smaller in physical size than the Tranx 300?
Yes
Is it saltwater approved reel.... and whats the bottom line is this reel better than Tranx 400
Definitely. It's a great reel. Non handle side plate is a little wiggly. If you can score a deal on on I'd say the value is better. I feel the tranx is better quality. Though I like the abu external brake for fine tuning or changing conditions
@@TackleAdvisors thank u..... i have a choice between Tailwalk Elan wide power plus and Abu revo beast 40.... what do u suggest???
So the gear misaligned after the test or am i missing something?
I started a discussion on stripersonline.com in the main forum. I've added some more info there. I'm filming a drag discussion vid and will include what happened here in that. It's not a crappy abu vid but a vid showing how drags work and why max drag numbers are bad
@@TackleAdvisors
Cool, tks a lot, i'll check that.
Aside from that issue it's a fairly good reel though, right?
Definitely. Without a doubt
Num 1...like all u vid...thank u.
Thanks brotha!
Looks a lot like a piscifun Thunder.