Im sure they will kill but i heard diffrent from a veteran of normandy interview. He said the carbine was issued to paratrooper and mainly guys in the rear and he said he shot a german one time and he just kept running. But that if u hit one with a m1 garand they would instantly drop. I could see how the 30 carbine isnt that lethal at distances. I mean over all it is lethal just not instant like many of the larger bullets like the m1 garand or 8mm mauser or 7.62 x54r. But for what it is the m1 carbine is a really cool gun. Maybe ur grandpa just hit a good spot or maybe the other fella didnt hit a good spot. Idk i wasnt there. But I wish i was alive back in 50s n 60s i heard u could get one of these for like 8 bucks. Ten bucks. And that they was so plentiful u could find them at hardware shops in a umbrella bucket. Take ur pick. Now days they are expensive and valuable. Any kind of us military surplus firearms will only go up in vakue. They are hifhky sought after in America. I been seeing springfield 1903s aell for 1200 and 1500. Its crazy.
@@EliteNirvana What I find remarkable about a US soldier hitting an enemy soldier who is camouflaged and moving fast as hell while under all the stress of combat is not that a single hit didn't instantly drop him but that he was was able to hit him at all! That's a really hard shot to land and your best chance of landing even one hit is with an M1 carbine, a much lighter weapon with a closer center of gravity, less recoil (even for the lower weight) and twice as many shots (15+1 or 8+0). I think the M1 is underestimated as it's just seen as weaker for not advantage when you're going to be hitting way more often with .30 Carbine compared to the Garand.
@AVGN1774actually I've seen where a guy was at the bottom of a stairway with a pipe and the police were at the top. They told him to drop the pipe and he charged up the stairs at them. An officer shot him 10-15 times with 9mm jhp. He kept charging and hit the officer in the head with the pipe before collapsing and dying. There's no shortage of people continuing to fight after being lethally wounded. Even people in the middle east being shot with M240B machine guns shooting 7.62x51mm and getting up to run away. Of course they died but before they did, they had enough time left to get up and run or do the terrible things they set out to do in the first place. People don't just instantly drop every time.
@@jarrodshipard Bronze star was awarded to people who were not involved in air operations but showed uncommon achievement, it was intended to maintain morale for those who would be unlikely to get a silver star. I'm no expert on WWII, but I could see the possibility of getting a bronze star and the later becoming a paratrooper if your company was assigned to participate in an air operation (which were sporadic during WWII) which then gave the opportunity to earn a silver star. It could also be that the guy misunderstood what his grandfather said. That happens. Regardless, congratulations and thanks to the grandfather for his service.
I have one of the Auto Ordnance repo's (full stock style)and of course they are set up like a 1941 configuration. I picked up original parts and changed it to the 1943 style with the flip style safety, the adjustable rear sight and the bayonet lug.. A real HOOT to shoot..
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My Grandfather used this in WW2 in the battle of the bulge as a medic to cover fire and fire back. This weapon saved many American lives along with my Grandfather's.
I own a National Ordinance M1, it was my father's that he bought back in the 60's. It was pure junk from the get go but I've had work done on it and it finally runs. Would love to have a decent model.
Nice, have fun with it. I suggest buying some reloading dies for it and casting bullets. Will allow you to shoot that gun a lot more as well as reduce wear on your barrel to virtually nothing.
I own a Auto Ordnance M1A1 carbine and love it. The problems I have found are magazines and ammunition used.. Make sure you lube and keep it well oiled and clean. I recommend you load your own ammunition and load it hot using Horniday bullets. I love how light it is and how fast it shoots. Just remember this gun was made to shoot not more than 50-75 yards.
Many problems with the carbine mags is caused by people cleaning the mags put the spring in backwards. I found every mag that gave me problems, this was the problem
Agree. Needs a little break in but with good mags and cleaning lube it goes great now ! It’s my first go to rifle. The auto ordnance mags are ok so I got other USGI mags or even Korean ones that work well.
I love the M1 Carbine. I have a early GM Inland and it is a fantastic rifle. Only issues I’ve ever had were due to using KCI mags. With the G.I. mags it runs flawlessly. I do use mine for HD and would absolutely trust my life to it.
The cut down version you were thinking about was actually sold during the 1960s as an "alley sweeper" to cops. Popular during Watts riots and other civil disturbances of 1960s.
A Tx company called IAI was also producing these back in the 1990s. I picked up one back then and have never had any issues with it. Like all of the repros, it has a cast receiver with the balance of parts mostly GI.
I have a Plainfield. Bought it in the 80's. Replaced the cast bolt with a GI flat bolt and replaced the trigger housing and innards with GI parts and the thing eats everything and will not quit.
Failure to feed and eject is a fairly common issue with the rifle. From what I understand, it's common with all of them. Also, a little something I learned about. Make sure you have the M2 mag catch when using 30 round mags. It gives extra support to the magazine and prevents the notches on the magazines from sheering off from the recoil.
Ian from forgottenweapons put the “Russian wool coat myth” to bed. He believes that these were cases in which bullets actually grazed the person whil not actually hitting them. The coat would have made them seem larger targets with less vulnerable areas then it appeared. I personally believe this as no way a .30 carbine is stopped by wool coat. Seriously people
I believe it was also believed that it was from engagements where the VC would recover their wounded\dead or they'd crawl back into spider holes to die, leaving the G.I.s to believe they had survived due to the absence of a body
I saw a video where the guy did the math and worked out that the M2 rounds had only lost about 1/3 of their stopping power at 250m. It was more a case of inaccurate than out of bunch.
I have the same rifle but standard stock. I’ve noticed that the gun runs great when throughly lubricated. Brand new out of box with some lubricant, it jammed frequently. Wasn’t until I put a lot of lubricant and ran the new 10rd magazines with 8 rounds did it run smooth. I find a little spray gun lube worked great during target practice which I recommend using a little every 100-200 rounds. Love the rifle, not a fan of the rocker mags a lot of other guns from that era have. Simple, strong, accurate and light. There is a rail attachment for the sight to mount a scope, found mine at a gun show.
I agree with you 100%.... I use to own a AO M1 carbine, the key word is “use to” I’ll never own one again! On other hand the Fulton Armory carbine is top notch and worth their selling price...
@@MrSpudz2 Yeah the AOs are total junk. The new Inlands are not any better. Fulton all the way, head a shoulders above anything else out there in M1 Carbines.
@@classicgunstoday1972 to who’s magazines are you referring too? Auto Ordance ones? They’re crap too! Buy the South Korean KCI ones, half the price and twice the mag....
@@MrSpudz2 I’m talking about Fulton Armory. I got all my 30 round magazines and a few more 15 from them. They are steel and are very durable and reliable. The two Auto Ordinance 15 rounders that came with the gun are aluminum, feel very cheap and the spring feels relatively weak...but surprisingly, I’ve never has a problem with them either.
Kahr and Auto Ordinace were both located just outside Woodstock in the town of West Hurley. In the Catskills NY area. They are owned by same folks, the Moon family. Kahr moved out of state a few miles to Penn to escape Gov Cuomo.
I read that the gunpowder chemical structure in the M1 carbine cartridge was adversely affected by the extremely low temperatures of the Korean winters in the Korean War, e.g. Marines at Chosin Reservoir where night time low temps sometimes went down to -40F.
@ horatiodreamt - Those stories may have some basis in fact since the development of temperature-resistance propellants is a relatively recent phenomenon, i.e., propellants or powders which are not adversely effected by extremes of high or low temperature. It isn't just the ammo, either. Many lubricants freeze solid or nearly so in such conditions, and firing an ice-cold weapon with too much lube on it and using ammo which is also cold, so it isn't hard to see how less-than-optimal results may take place. Good troops with proper cold weather training and gear know their unit SOPs for taking care of weapons and equipment in extreme cold. They'll be issued the correct viscosity lubricants (if lubricants are to be used at all) and have well-sorted procedures for handling weapons in those conditions. Self-correcting problem to the extent that fast-firing weapons heat up rapidly.
I’m going to need one of those. I want the full stock just because my grand father carried that setup in WWII. I wanted one even before he died, but now, I really feel an obligation to get one just so my son knows what he carried in the war.
Some of the bullet chambers were machined a little rough. Some 600 grit sandpaper on a brass cleaning brush and a few strokes will usually cure sticking brass cases. A little anti-seize compound swabbed into the bullet seating area and then swabbed out with a dry patch works wonders too.
Man I almost bought an M1 carbine at a gun show a few weeks ago. Ended up getting an AR pistol instead but God damn these are some cool ass rifles! They just look so badass!!!
I recently picked up the Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine from my LGS. The one I have was made in their new facility in Greeley PA. Before buying I made sure the feed ramp was nicely polished and the action was smooth. I took it home, cleaned it, and greased it with TW25b. I worked the action a couple hundred times while watching TV. Today I took it to the range and fired Aguila ammo (the only brand my LGS had in stock) thru it. I had no failures of any kind. The trigger is a little heavy at 7 lb and it has a slight gritty-ness to it, but not horrible. The sights were perfect for windage. I was only able to fire it at 25 yards and the rounds grouped a little low and there was some vertical stringing. This is not unexpected for a light barrel and considering the barrel was cold, un-fouled and had no rounds thru it. I expect that to lessen as the barrel breaks in. The accuracy was certainly acceptable for a battle rife. In the future I'll shoot it at 50, 100, and 150 yds.
Boxotruth already did the test. It is a myth. More likely than not, the people propagating that rumor were missing. Same deal with 5.56 before the ACOG came into play .
I’m sure anyone curious about this rifle will come here for some knowledge. I switched out my stuff push button safety for a USGI flip type safety. Very easy job and highly recommended upgrade!
My uncle is a soldier of 77th Border Ranger Battalion of Army of the Republic of Vietnam. He brang a M1 Carbine Paratrooper home from Da Nang city and I used it until March, 1975. It's very nice, short and light.
A significant advantage of this carbine over the AR for home defense is that the blast and noise is far less, producing less distraction and hearing disability. Touching off several rounds in a hallway would be far less unpleasant. Outdoors, the noise level seems to be little more than a .22 Magnum.
I think the feelings about the M1 carbine being underpowered would be different if expanding ammo was allowed in wartime. Those 2 liters were clearly exploding.
If legal where you live [I'm behind the Granola Curtain; other foreign enclaves like NJ might have similar restrix against them] you can get .30cal sabots & handload your M1 'bine ammo w/ 22cal bullets. Yes, the accuracy is degraded, but you can push them much faster than the 110gr FMJ bullets, and get further into the hydroshock territory. Remember, velocity is the key to hard target penetration.
Shot an OG M! paratrooper from Korean War. That thing was awesome to shoot. Sights had been set when in Korea and never touched after that. I shot it in 2004.
Have a ‘44 M1. It’s a nice handling light weight rifle. Certainly some discussion about the cartridge but I enjoy shooting it and handy for it’s size. Never will part with it.
Auto Ordnance, owned by Kahr, makes quality weapons, the 1911 replica and this carbine, which maybe the go to rifle if the AR15 gets banned. Thanks for the good video.
It's funny you mentioned they had rings of copper building up in the chamber. Ian from Forgotten Weapons did a video on the true heroes of the M1 Carbine, and he described them having the same issues during development. They added chamfers to the chamber to aid feeding and prevent shaving of copper.
I have a 1944 IBM made M1 Carbine. I do shoot it from time to time. It is such a sweet shooter. It has all matching parts. IBM only made 346,500 of the over 6 million M1 Carbines produced during WW2.
there's a reason why some people call this the grandfather to the M4 and interesting people have used these seen in photographs such as Malcom X and Patty Hearst
I grew up listening to my Grandfathers both WWII vets tell their tales. They loved the M1 Carbine for urban fighting in Europe. I wanted one badly so I bought a M1 Carbine by AO and it has never jammed, failed to feed , eject . I love it.
Yes, but in constant dollars that would have been what, $650 today? Still a steal, for a legit U.S. .mil production M1 'bine, but not *quite* the price differential we see at first glance! In contrast, my AR-15 in -A2 config was $900 when I got it; that would be >$1800 in todays FRN$, yet nowhere near as flexible as a modern AR w/ collapsing stock, MLOK rail, etc. for 1/2 the price. [Well, the going rate was 1/2 the price *before* the CCP virus & election fears did a number on the supply/demand curves!]
My Grandfather was a Ww2 Marine from the 2 MEF. He didn’t want anything to do with the carbine or the garand. Surprisingly he preferred the 1903 Springfield.
Those reports of not going through clothes is absolute bs. I watched the Carbine Cowboy put rounds through three phone books and three gallon jugs of water at 250 yards. It made huge holes and destroyed the jugs.
As Iain McCallum would say.. "Ah!! Germans!!" I had a new production Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine and it was fantastic. The only reason I sold it was because I managed to find a WWII produced Inland Div. example.
I have run every off the shelf ammo in my carbine and the only times I had a problem was with one mag that had a weak mag spring and a dent in it, I repaired that mag and it runs fine now. I love my 1944 Underwood M-1👍🇺🇸
@@Eric-kn4yn That is correct, it wasn't ever intended for that. Just a carbine with a pistol round but it does take the fight out of anyone running your way to kill you.
Fulton Armory manufactures the best commercially available M-1 Carbine next to an original. Fulton Armory repairs M-1 Carbines and in my experience magazines, the gas system and barrel ramps are usually the cause of most reliability issues.
The issue with these auto ordnance rifles is the finish is very rough, they have to tumble the parts to round the edges, the front of the chamber is very sharp and rounds stop on that, just have to polish it and they work very well after that.
I have an original restored to Museum quality. Also a Plainfield m1 carbine I love and daughter shot since was 7. Began at 5 shooting. But every 5 or so years I have to replace 2 springs. Thanks for memories
Eric, just a note with my 300 blk out AR, I hand load the exact same 110 grn. Fmj .308 bullet, and am getting 2400+ fps. With the 30 carbine, your getting just 2000fps. Just another reason again why I love the versitility of the 300 blk and all the different .308 bullets I can shoot!.... Another great video, thanks brother!. Libya 86, Desert Storm 90 vet..
I had an opportunity to buy an M1 30 years ago for $120 not in the best shape and have regretted it ever since..Good Luck and Good Shooting, Thanks for the video !!
You must not know how to shoot or maintain a weapon. Audie Murphy sure loved his. Just as effective today as it was back then, gives up little to an AR.
I haven't gotten a "powder burner" model.....yet. But my dad was issued one in commo for the Army. I have the Springfield wood stocked co2 M1 Carbine replica and it is one of my favorite "BB" slinger. I want the Fulton Arms M1 Carbine and Garand.
I was raised in Virginia and it has changed from a strong 2A state to one that is very hostile to the 2A. It’s really sad that the average new gun owner doesn’t vote to protect their gun rights.
I love my universal m130 cal carbine. It's not a paratrooper model. But it shoots like a dream. And the only ammo I can find here where I live is magtech and monarch.
FYI a stuck case was usually a symptom of unlubricated cases. Bad bullets, can't help you on that one. I always used Holley 110g bullets for my reloads and never had a problem. Used Remington .30 Cal to shoot and collect my bras for reloading. Course that was 40 years ago.
When I was in the Marines, '77-'81, stationed at Camp Pendleton. I bought AR-180, Sterling. Another Marine bought an M-1 Carbine, Universal, at one of those Membership stores they use to have in California. He didn't have a membership, didn't tell me. We followed some woman thru the door. The woman showed her membership card, and Joe told me to get my wallet out. As we reached for our wallets, the guy waved us thru. The woman was headed the direction we needed to go, so we just followed her till she walked by gun department. Then we peeled off to sporting goods, then she waved and said she would be over in that department(she pointed). We waved back and started looking thru the rifle racks. I saw the M-1, asked to see it. Clerk got it down, checked the chamber, then handed it to me. It was $199.99, Joe looked at it , after I checked the chamber then handed it to him. Joe bought it and 2 boxes of 100 rnds each. Went shooting the next morning, and after shooting that Carbine, I wished I had bought one. We kept in touch for 15 yrs, then never heard from him again. But still had that carbine ,and would take his son out shooting. He never had any problems with it! One of those that got put together correctly, with apparently great parts! And he kept all his guns CLEAN!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that those "failure to stop" incidents in Korea were during the Korean winter. I've heard it attributed to the action being made sluggish because the cold was effecting the lubricant being used at the time.
My dad had a M2 version of the carbine in the early days of Vietnam. He really liked it.
I doubt that.
My dad was a MP and carried one in WWII through Italy, France, and all the way to Munich Germany... He loved that carbine...
I doubt that very much.
my grandfather used an m1 carbine in WWII. he said every German he shot with it died promptly.
Im sure they will kill but i heard diffrent from a veteran of normandy interview. He said the carbine was issued to paratrooper and mainly guys in the rear and he said he shot a german one time and he just kept running. But that if u hit one with a m1 garand they would instantly drop. I could see how the 30 carbine isnt that lethal at distances. I mean over all it is lethal just not instant like many of the larger bullets like the m1 garand or 8mm mauser or 7.62 x54r. But for what it is the m1 carbine is a really cool gun. Maybe ur grandpa just hit a good spot or maybe the other fella didnt hit a good spot. Idk i wasnt there. But I wish i was alive back in 50s n 60s i heard u could get one of these for like 8 bucks. Ten bucks. And that they was so plentiful u could find them at hardware shops in a umbrella bucket. Take ur pick. Now days they are expensive and valuable. Any kind of us military surplus firearms will only go up in vakue. They are hifhky sought after in America. I been seeing springfield 1903s aell for 1200 and 1500. Its crazy.
@@EliteNirvana What I find remarkable about a US soldier hitting an enemy soldier who is camouflaged and moving fast as hell while under all the stress of combat is not that a single hit didn't instantly drop him but that he was was able to hit him at all! That's a really hard shot to land and your best chance of landing even one hit is with an M1 carbine, a much lighter weapon with a closer center of gravity, less recoil (even for the lower weight) and twice as many shots (15+1 or 8+0).
I think the M1 is underestimated as it's just seen as weaker for not advantage when you're going to be hitting way more often with .30 Carbine compared to the Garand.
Almost like 30-06 is absolute overkill for a human.... I don't doubt the ballistics of the carbine. I'm SURE it would not be pleasant to be hit with.
Impossible! The bullet only goes 2000fps???
@AVGN1774actually I've seen where a guy was at the bottom of a stairway with a pipe and the police were at the top. They told him to drop the pipe and he charged up the stairs at them. An officer shot him 10-15 times with 9mm jhp. He kept charging and hit the officer in the head with the pipe before collapsing and dying. There's no shortage of people continuing to fight after being lethally wounded. Even people in the middle east being shot with M240B machine guns shooting 7.62x51mm and getting up to run away. Of course they died but before they did, they had enough time left to get up and run or do the terrible things they set out to do in the first place. People don't just instantly drop every time.
My Grandpappy earned a Silver and Bronze Star carrying one of those as a paratrooper in WWII
@Angus Dabull excuse my ignorance. What did he say that was wrong?
my grandpapaya carried this as a vietcong during nam.
@@jarrodshipard Bronze star was awarded to people who were not involved in air operations but showed uncommon achievement, it was intended to maintain morale for those who would be unlikely to get a silver star. I'm no expert on WWII, but I could see the possibility of getting a bronze star and the later becoming a paratrooper if your company was assigned to participate in an air operation (which were sporadic during WWII) which then gave the opportunity to earn a silver star.
It could also be that the guy misunderstood what his grandfather said. That happens. Regardless, congratulations and thanks to the grandfather for his service.
God bless that MAN.
That’s just amazing, if nothing else for the history. Grandad carried one. Miss him...
I have one of the Auto Ordnance repo's (full stock style)and of course they are set up like a 1941 configuration. I picked up original parts and changed it to the 1943 style with the flip style safety, the adjustable rear sight and the bayonet lug.. A real HOOT to shoot..
The Lorax speaks for the trees. And today they’re speaking German
@Pmurt Forlife you weren’t there. You wouldn’t understand
@Pmurt Forlife Hes sayin the germans are hiding in the trees
THE LORAX IS GERMAN
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I’m the Lorax,
I speak for the trees,
And they say,
Well I don’t know,
It was in Vietnamese
I put 100 rounds through my brand new paratrooper today. Used 5 different mags. 1 original, 4 surplus mags. Zero issues.
My Grandfather used this in WW2 in the battle of the bulge as a medic to cover fire and fire back. This weapon saved many American lives along with my Grandfather's.
Yes and the stg44 cost Germans their lives. Guns are just tools. Very neat tools, but we shouldn’t put any on pedestals
Same here...jumped on D-Day with the 101st Airborne.
My great grandfather was at the bulge he was in the 6th calvary I wish I knew what firearm he had
@@Perry2186 ...The 6th Calvary was issued the standard M1
It was also the most decorated unit in the war.
@@keithlucas6260 really? He had 2 purple hearts and a few other medals but didn't know they were the most decorated
I appreciate that even when Eric is shilling he gives us subtle hints. What a guy
I own a National Ordinance M1, it was my father's that he bought back in the 60's. It was pure junk from the get go but I've had work done on it and it finally runs. Would love to have a decent model.
My dad gave me his old m1 literally just yesterday!
Nice, have fun with it. I suggest buying some reloading dies for it and casting bullets. Will allow you to shoot that gun a lot more as well as reduce wear on your barrel to virtually nothing.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj thanks for the suggestion! I’ll look into that!
As much as I love my AR platforms for just carrying around in the woods I love my M1 carbine
My father carried an M1Carbine in WW2. He loved it, his favorite.
I have one of my grandfathers M1 Carbines and it’s one of my favorite guns to shoot. Never had a problem with it at all
I own a Auto Ordnance M1A1 carbine and love it. The problems I have found are magazines and ammunition used.. Make sure you lube and keep it well oiled and clean. I recommend you load your own ammunition and load it hot using Horniday bullets. I love how light it is and how fast it shoots. Just remember this gun was made to shoot not more than 50-75 yards.
Many problems with the carbine mags is caused by people cleaning the mags put the spring in backwards. I found every mag that gave me problems, this was the problem
Agree. Needs a little break in but with good mags and cleaning lube it goes great now ! It’s my first go to rifle. The auto ordnance mags are ok so I got other USGI mags or even Korean ones that work well.
Perfect timing, I just found out about auto ordnance and fell in love with this specific M1 Carbine model.
I love the M1 Carbine. I have a early GM Inland and it is a fantastic rifle. Only issues I’ve ever had were due to using KCI mags. With the G.I. mags it runs flawlessly. I do use mine for HD and would absolutely trust my life to it.
My thoughts exactly, thanks
Korean mags?? They’re pretty good for aluminum ones
Kci is some of the Best mags you can get other then gi mags
The cut down version you were thinking about was actually sold during the 1960s as an "alley sweeper" to cops. Popular during Watts riots and other civil disturbances of 1960s.
A Tx company called IAI was also producing these back in the 1990s. I picked up one back then and have never had any issues with it. Like all of the repros, it has a cast receiver with the balance of parts mostly GI.
IMO one of the best guns ever built. So slick and simple.
I have a Plainfield. Bought it in the 80's. Replaced the cast bolt with a GI flat bolt and replaced the trigger housing and innards with GI parts and the thing eats everything and will not quit.
Failure to feed and eject is a fairly common issue with the rifle. From what I understand, it's common with all of them. Also, a little something I learned about. Make sure you have the M2 mag catch when using 30 round mags. It gives extra support to the magazine and prevents the notches on the magazines from sheering off from the recoil.
I like the fact that AO used a period correct 2 rivet handguard on your sample M1A1 Paratrooper model.
Ian from forgottenweapons put the “Russian wool coat myth” to bed. He believes that these were cases in which bullets actually grazed the person whil not actually hitting them. The coat would have made them seem larger targets with less vulnerable areas then it appeared. I personally believe this as no way a .30 carbine is stopped by wool coat. Seriously people
I believe it was also believed that it was from engagements where the VC would recover their wounded\dead or they'd crawl back into spider holes to die, leaving the G.I.s to believe they had survived due to the absence of a body
Gun Jesus hath spoken
I saw a video where the guy did the math and worked out that the M2 rounds had only lost about 1/3 of their stopping power at 250m. It was more a case of inaccurate than out of bunch.
there is no coat that stops a .22 lr from 100 yards, so thats complete bs
In which video
I have the same rifle but standard stock. I’ve noticed that the gun runs great when throughly lubricated. Brand new out of box with some lubricant, it jammed frequently. Wasn’t until I put a lot of lubricant and ran the new 10rd magazines with 8 rounds did it run smooth. I find a little spray gun lube worked great during target practice which I recommend using a little every 100-200 rounds. Love the rifle, not a fan of the rocker mags a lot of other guns from that era have. Simple, strong, accurate and light.
There is a rail attachment for the sight to mount a scope, found mine at a gun show.
15:17 AMEN brother. Figuring out what's going on with it is most the fun. And it's ability to be fixed is what makes it a good thing.
If you're going to buy an M1 Carbine reproduction, I suggest Fulton Armory.
I agree with you 100%.... I use to own a AO M1 carbine, the key word is “use to” I’ll never own one again! On other hand the Fulton Armory carbine is top notch and worth their selling price...
@@MrSpudz2 Yeah the AOs are total junk. The new Inlands are not any better. Fulton all the way, head a shoulders above anything else out there in M1 Carbines.
They make good steel magazines if nothing else
@@classicgunstoday1972 to who’s magazines are you referring too? Auto Ordance ones? They’re crap too! Buy the South Korean KCI ones, half the price and twice the mag....
@@MrSpudz2 I’m talking about Fulton Armory. I got all my 30 round magazines and a few more 15 from them. They are steel and are very durable and reliable.
The two Auto Ordinance 15 rounders that came with the gun are aluminum, feel very cheap and the spring feels relatively weak...but surprisingly, I’ve never has a problem with them either.
Lawd, I had one of these and loved it.. sadly I sold it in 1988. The memories this video brings!!!
THE COATS STOPPING .30 CARBINE IS A DISPROVEN MYTH!!!
I bet it's pouring.They also had on thick wool sweaters.and layers of undershirts
Kahr and Auto Ordinace were both located just outside Woodstock in the town of West Hurley. In the Catskills NY area. They are owned by same folks, the Moon family. Kahr moved out of state a few miles to Penn to escape Gov Cuomo.
I like the M1 Carbine
I have one it’s never impressed me that much honestly. Mine was semi auto obviously
I read that the gunpowder chemical structure in the M1 carbine cartridge was adversely affected by the extremely low temperatures of the Korean winters in the Korean War, e.g. Marines at Chosin Reservoir where night time low temps sometimes went down to -40F.
@ horatiodreamt - Those stories may have some basis in fact since the development of temperature-resistance propellants is a relatively recent phenomenon, i.e., propellants or powders which are not adversely effected by extremes of high or low temperature. It isn't just the ammo, either. Many lubricants freeze solid or nearly so in such conditions, and firing an ice-cold weapon with too much lube on it and using ammo which is also cold, so it isn't hard to see how less-than-optimal results may take place.
Good troops with proper cold weather training and gear know their unit SOPs for taking care of weapons and equipment in extreme cold. They'll be issued the correct viscosity lubricants (if lubricants are to be used at all) and have well-sorted procedures for handling weapons in those conditions.
Self-correcting problem to the extent that fast-firing weapons heat up rapidly.
I’m going to need one of those. I want the full stock just because my grand father carried that setup in WWII. I wanted one even before he died, but now, I really feel an obligation to get one just so my son knows what he carried in the war.
Thankyou Eric for the fair and unbiased test.
I've always wanted to see a modern firearms, like an MP5 or a short barreled AR, chambered in .30 Carbine
I've wanted to see M1 Carbine Parartrooper for a while. Thanks for the video!
Ive got an old 1970s produced m1 from Inland. Runs great with good mags. Its my beat up ranch gun just because its so handy and light
Now you just have to test that rumor at 250 meters. I don’t believe it
nope its false it'll shoot thru that coat .
Yeah it's BS. Soldiers probably had that impression because their shots went through the coats but didn't hit the skinny north koreans in it.
@@TheTeehee11111 Or they just missed, which is very easy to do.
Some people cant just shoot at a distance.
@@TheTeehee11111 I think they were issued M2 carbines and just wanted to spray and pray and really didn’t hit anything as well.
Some of the bullet chambers were machined a little rough. Some 600 grit sandpaper on a brass cleaning brush and a few strokes will usually cure sticking brass cases. A little anti-seize compound swabbed into the bullet seating area and then swabbed out with a dry patch works wonders too.
Man I almost bought an M1 carbine at a gun show a few weeks ago. Ended up getting an AR pistol instead but God damn these are some cool ass rifles! They just look so badass!!!
I recently picked up the Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine from my LGS. The one I have was made in their new facility in Greeley PA. Before buying I made sure the feed ramp was nicely polished and the action was smooth. I took it home, cleaned it, and greased it with TW25b. I worked the action a couple hundred times while watching TV. Today I took it to the range and fired Aguila ammo (the only brand my LGS had in stock) thru it. I had no failures of any kind. The trigger is a little heavy at 7 lb and it has a slight gritty-ness to it, but not horrible. The sights were perfect for windage. I was only able to fire it at 25 yards and the rounds grouped a little low and there was some vertical stringing. This is not unexpected for a light barrel and considering the barrel was cold, un-fouled and had no rounds thru it. I expect that to lessen as the barrel breaks in. The accuracy was certainly acceptable for a battle rife. In the future I'll shoot it at 50, 100, and 150 yds.
Ejection pattern improved too. Post cleaning.
My grampa was a airplane mechanic in ww2 I always picture him holding one of the carbines and smoking a cigarette just being himself a badass
Would love to see you test that myth with a North Korean wool coat.
It'll go through bud.
Boxotruth already did the test. It is a myth. More likely than not, the people propagating that rumor were missing. Same deal with 5.56 before the ACOG came into play .
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj Yup! Shot goes over the enemy's head..."man, the bullets are just bouncing off his coat!"
Dress up a liberal in it to make it moar realistic.
I KEED I KEED
Tested multiple times by several different shooters. It's bunk. Will go straight through a coat.
I’m sure anyone curious about this rifle will come here for some knowledge. I switched out my stuff push button safety for a USGI flip type safety. Very easy job and highly recommended upgrade!
Fulton armory makes a really nice m1 carbine
My uncle is a soldier of 77th Border Ranger Battalion of Army of the Republic of Vietnam. He brang a M1 Carbine Paratrooper home from Da Nang city and I used it until March, 1975. It's very nice, short and light.
A significant advantage of this carbine over the AR for home defense is that the blast and noise is far less, producing less distraction and hearing disability. Touching off several rounds in a hallway would be far less unpleasant. Outdoors, the noise level seems to be little more than a .22 Magnum.
I think the feelings about the M1 carbine being underpowered would be different if expanding ammo was allowed in wartime. Those 2 liters were clearly exploding.
Exactly, outside of FMJ a larger slow bullet that expands is vastly more devastating
If legal where you live [I'm behind the Granola Curtain; other foreign enclaves like NJ might have similar restrix against them] you can get .30cal sabots & handload your M1 'bine ammo w/ 22cal bullets. Yes, the accuracy is degraded, but you can push them much faster than the 110gr FMJ bullets, and get further into the hydroshock territory. Remember, velocity is the key to hard target penetration.
Shot an OG M! paratrooper from Korean War. That thing was awesome to shoot. Sights had been set when in Korea and never touched after that. I shot it in 2004.
Cool
Have a ‘44 M1. It’s a nice handling light weight rifle. Certainly some discussion about the cartridge but I enjoy shooting it and handy for it’s size. Never will part with it.
Auto Ordnance, owned by Kahr, makes quality weapons, the 1911 replica and this carbine, which maybe the go to rifle if the AR15 gets banned. Thanks for the good video.
When the AR gets banned, both M1's, Garand and Carbine, are the next to go...
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That rifle will put a lot of hurt on any attacking 2-legged predator. I think I may have to obtain one. Thanks for a great video as always.
It's funny you mentioned they had rings of copper building up in the chamber. Ian from Forgotten Weapons did a video on the true heroes of the M1 Carbine, and he described them having the same issues during development. They added chamfers to the chamber to aid feeding and prevent shaving of copper.
The m1 carbine is a beautiful little gun, nice video :)
I have a 1944 IBM made M1 Carbine. I do shoot it from time to time. It is such a sweet shooter. It has all matching parts. IBM only made 346,500 of the over 6 million M1 Carbines produced during WW2.
there's a reason why some people call this the grandfather to the M4 and interesting people have used these seen in photographs such as Malcom X and Patty Hearst
I owned a Universal M1 Carbine for many years and it never missed a lick with GI ammo or handloads. In hindsight, I wish I had never sold it.
I grew up listening to my Grandfathers both WWII vets tell their tales. They loved the M1 Carbine for urban fighting in Europe. I wanted one badly so I bought a M1 Carbine by AO and it has never jammed, failed to feed , eject . I love it.
hey gene wats up bud?
Great carbine and even better shirt! Thank you for your service to our country and to the gun community!
I'm remembering when the M1 carbines in decent shape could be had for about $65. bucks at the local pawn shop...
Yes, but in constant dollars that would have been what, $650 today? Still a steal, for a legit U.S. .mil production M1 'bine, but not *quite* the price differential we see at first glance! In contrast, my AR-15 in -A2 config was $900 when I got it; that would be >$1800 in todays FRN$, yet nowhere near as flexible as a modern AR w/ collapsing stock, MLOK rail, etc. for 1/2 the price. [Well, the going rate was 1/2 the price *before* the CCP virus & election fears did a number on the supply/demand curves!]
My Grandfather was a Ww2 Marine from the 2 MEF. He didn’t want anything to do with the carbine or the garand. Surprisingly he preferred the 1903 Springfield.
He was Old Fashion
My Aunt gave me a Rockola 30 carbine and I have a Plainfield , and I love them both.
Those reports of not going through clothes is absolute bs. I watched the Carbine Cowboy put rounds through three phone books and three gallon jugs of water at 250 yards. It made huge holes and destroyed the jugs.
As Iain McCallum would say.. "Ah!! Germans!!"
I had a new production Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine and it was fantastic. The only reason I sold it was because I managed to find a WWII produced Inland Div. example.
Carbine Williams is a cool older movie starring Jimmy Stewart. He actually designed the rifle while in prison.
I have run every off the shelf ammo in my carbine and the only times I had a problem was with one mag that had a weak mag spring and a dent in it, I repaired that mag and it runs fine now. I love my 1944 Underwood M-1👍🇺🇸
M1 ammo wouldnt have much luck using it for demolshing or penetrating cover enemy was hiding behind
@@Eric-kn4yn That is correct, it wasn't ever intended for that. Just a carbine with a pistol round but it does take the fight out of anyone running your way to kill you.
Thanks for reminding me of passing one up from ww11 at the gun show last month, I should have gotten it idk why I didnt.
Absolutely a must have addition
Picked up My Auto Ord paratrooper about 3 years ago. What an investment. Love it. if you like this gun check out the VZ 58. Another beauty.
Just bought a 1943 M1 carbine... I love it.. gonna have the stock engraved to honor my Dad that served in WW2...
My AO paratrooper has been a lot of work. Had to fit and install an M2 catch, JB weld it to sit higher and it still is only 90% reliable or so.
I can imagine the first time a soldier grabbed that pistol grip saying, 'What the hell is this?'
Fulton Armory manufactures the best commercially available M-1 Carbine next to an original. Fulton Armory repairs M-1 Carbines and in my experience magazines, the gas system and barrel ramps are usually the cause of most reliability issues.
The issue with these auto ordnance rifles is the finish is very rough, they have to tumble the parts to round the edges, the front of the chamber is very sharp and rounds stop on that, just have to polish it and they work very well after that.
I have an original restored to Museum quality. Also a Plainfield m1 carbine I love and daughter shot since was 7. Began at 5 shooting. But every 5 or so years I have to replace 2 springs. Thanks for memories
Eric, just a note with my 300 blk out AR, I hand load the exact same 110 grn. Fmj .308 bullet, and am getting 2400+ fps.
With the 30 carbine, your getting just 2000fps. Just another reason again why I love the versitility of the 300 blk and all the different .308 bullets I can shoot!.... Another great video, thanks brother!. Libya 86, Desert Storm 90 vet..
Gad Damn! Car Wizzard is deadly with that M1 Carbine!
I had an opportunity to buy an M1 30 years ago for $120 not in the best shape and have regretted it ever since..Good Luck and Good Shooting, Thanks for the video !!
I have one and I love taking it out and shooting it at the range. I always get people asking me about it
These things are so badass. Would love to have one
How is it outdated for defense? As long as a gun shoots, it kills
Angus Dabull I could care less about using it for defense.... I have modern weapons for that. They are just badass classic guns.
@Angus Dabull they're still fun shooters.
You must not know how to shoot or maintain a weapon. Audie Murphy sure loved his. Just as effective today as it was back then, gives up little to an AR.
Can u do a review on the inland m1 carbine repro?
The M1 Carbine, a PDW before PDWs were cool. Especially the cut down "Advisor's Gun".
Very Cool M1 Carbine, Eric !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great little gun to have behind the seat of the pickup here in Texas!…quick and very accurate.
My grandpa has a retired semi auto M1 carbine that he bought after vietnam, he said they would shoot full auto he said it saved my life
I haven't gotten a "powder burner" model.....yet. But my dad was issued one in commo for the Army. I have the Springfield wood stocked co2 M1 Carbine replica and it is one of my favorite "BB" slinger. I want the Fulton Arms M1 Carbine and Garand.
M1 Carbine is my favorite firearm.
Always Love The Slow Mo Guy's! Thanks!
I was raised in Virginia and it has changed from a strong 2A state to one that is very hostile to the 2A. It’s really sad that the average new gun owner doesn’t vote to protect their gun rights.
why vote? why not go 1776 2.0 on some tyrants?
@@hugosinclair6798you first big man
VA's dead and gone forever. Next comes MI, my newly-deceased state...
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How's the weather in Langley, Mr. FBI agent?...🤬🖕
@@charlestaylor253 pretty chill mr. IRS agent
Have one of these runs on Wolf, all brands, my own reloads.... flawless..!!..!
LMAO at the "self-help pamphlet" comment. 😂😂
I love my universal m130 cal carbine. It's not a paratrooper model. But it shoots like a dream. And the only ammo I can find here where I live is magtech and monarch.
What a novel concept keeping it clean will make it run better
FYI a stuck case was usually a symptom of unlubricated cases. Bad bullets, can't help you on that one. I always used Holley 110g bullets for my reloads and never had a problem. Used Remington .30 Cal to shoot and collect my bras for reloading. Course that was 40 years ago.
Marching through Georgia! 2020.
When I was in the Marines, '77-'81, stationed at Camp Pendleton. I bought AR-180, Sterling. Another Marine bought an M-1 Carbine, Universal, at one of those Membership stores they use to have in California. He didn't have a membership,
didn't tell me. We followed some woman thru the door. The woman showed her membership card, and Joe told me to get my wallet out. As we reached for our wallets, the guy waved us thru. The woman was headed the direction we needed to go, so we just followed her till she walked by gun department. Then we peeled off to sporting goods, then she waved and said she would be over in that department(she pointed). We waved back and started looking thru the rifle racks. I saw the M-1, asked to see it. Clerk got it down, checked the chamber, then handed it to me. It was $199.99, Joe looked at it , after I checked the chamber then handed it to him. Joe bought it and 2 boxes of 100 rnds each. Went shooting the next morning, and after shooting that Carbine, I wished I had bought one. We kept in touch for 15 yrs, then never heard from him again. But still had that carbine ,and would take his son out shooting. He never had any problems with it! One of those that got put together correctly, with apparently great parts! And he kept all his guns CLEAN!
I wish I had bought a couple of the G.I. surplus M1 carbines when I had the chance. They were going for less than $300 at the time.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that those "failure to stop" incidents in Korea were during the Korean winter. I've heard it attributed to the action being made sluggish because the cold was effecting the lubricant being used at the time.