A incident occurred near where I come from in South Roscommon, where a Tan unit was passing through a quite village and for no good reason one of them shot and killed a toddler while his mother was holding him in her arms standing at the half door of her cottage. They were absolute filth, and as that man said no one in england knows it as they aren't taught about it in schools.
@@CigaretteEater-It is the truth. I’m not supporting Hamas and its crazy that we even have time clarify that but Israel committed MANY war crimes against Palestine and still is and is using hamas as an excuse. If they hadn’t created the conditions for hamas to exist then they wouldn’t be a problem. And Hamas’ terrorist actions only hurt the movement since it gives power to Israel trying to discredit the whole of Palestine because of them, but the IDF did worse things and is justifying it under self defence even though that right doesn’t extend to the palestinian people
As a Brit, I am never surprised of the brutality of my nation, especially when practising colonial oppression. It behoves us all to move forward with mutual respect and a joint desire for peace. Long live Ireland
Need backbone English and irish n scots n Welsh were all same race british ..whatever and richer for it..at that time upto illegal uprising 1922.speak to lot of commonwealth ppl they respect uk .then n now.irish do forget fellow citizens of any faith other than their preferred much of their history is embroidered with false narrative not shared by whole populace.of ireland
My Nana passed away at the age of 91, I was 14, I'm now 51 and I remember her telling me abt thd Black & Tans. Many of the black & tans were criminals, soilders who would otherwise been in prison. My Nana saw a pregnant woman shot by the black & tans for being on the street after curfew. My Nana rarely spoke abt the violence but the mention of the black & tans she would have a visceral reaction. They were vicious without any rules or regulation.
Yet many, many more Irish were killed by their compatriots during the War or Independence and the Civil War that followed than by the RIC, ADRIC,DMP and all other British Forces combined. A fact that's (of course) completely ignored, or worse, has never been known by those who need to hate and still believe they hold the moral high ground. Eighty years later the IRA set off a bomb in Omagh killing twenty-nine people, including a woman pregnant with twins and before that an endless litany of massacres of defenceless innocent civilians by cowardly, faceless bombers. Maybe spare a though for those next time you sing "glory-o to the bold Fenian men".
Same with me. My grandmother, who was from County Donegal, would also tell me stories of the Black and Tans, and I could tell that the subject was one that brought up memories of great fear and trepidation. The British ruled Ireland through subjugating people to terror and fear. That was the sense I got from my grandmother.
Yeah but that b'stard Churchill and brit government gave them free reign to do what they liked. Nobody cares about Ireland back then, even when I was young nobody cares about Ireland, now they all love us cause our country is successful.
It's terrible and after all the Irish suffered it's strong that this cruelty is still cruel. Let us never be de-sensitised. So sad for all the losses. A great grandchild of Famine Emigrants. ❤
We in Ireland all know what the English did to us as a Nation. The English curriculim in schools have have never covered Irish History. Why? And all those young people will never know what you as a country inflected on our nation. But now all of us and our children are highly educated. We remember our language which you forced us to stop. We talk to you but we will never forget what you did to our Nation
The English language got you rich...plonker...😅..why else did american companies invest in ireland??. The Irish have a very blinkered view of their anti British history...the real oppressors were the bishops..and you had indepemce and remained poor till the 90s. No mention of subsistence farming and overpopulation...scotlamd had 300000 living in the Highlands...and you had...8 million. Ever heard of malthus😅😅
The black and Tans arrested my great grandfather, he convinced them he was on their side. They let him go, he then went home got his gun from the top of the wardrobe and went back to join the rebels. True story.
@@DanMkeaneThe chap in the clip is Simon Whistler, and he's an exceptionally prolific TH-camr, with numerous channels, but this specific video can be found on his "Warographics" channel. As I say, he has MANY channels, but of the aforementioned many I recommend Brainblaze for videos that are frequently humorous, interesting, bizarre, entertaining, or if you've any interest in the true crime genre, his Casual Criminalist channel is well worth a go. He uses a number of very talented writers across the countless channels, all of whom have great style, but Simon adds a lot of his own thoughts as he reads their scripts, and he and his team do make some great videos across his little network of channels! Hope this essay of an answer has been helpful! Have a great day! 😊
In the UK Churchill is generally known as a hero (despite him being very racist), but not many people know about him sending the Black and Tans which is sad
Who isn't racist. Really . Pretty much every group of people prefer their own kind. Have believe in their group and generally don't self hate. If that's what it means, how do you define it ? Hating other groups of people? Is hating other groups of people saying hey we don't want you coming here. Respect our borders . Racist this racist that its all so tiresome. It's a made up word by Leon Trotsky (Lev Davidovich Bronstein his real name) Speaking English has ruined us because we watch American psyops aka programs and films and we lap it all up.
Galipoli invasion as well , his decision.. ANZAC and Irish were sent to attack the turks in a daft position , suicidal really. But was it a stupid decision? Absolutely not if you don't care about those people. They diverted troops to defend themselves and left Palestine for the taking and with it the Balfour declaration could be fulfilled.
In Newry they held back the fire brigade and anyone else that tried to help two teenage boys from escaping a burning building. They stood outside, laughing and cheering as the boys burned to death.
My Dad, would be almost 110 years now & i heard him talk of an IRA chap who was a frequent visitor to Dads family farm & who's bicycle he'd painted in Green White & Gold happened go be parked in the yard when Percival (he'd his field kitchen in one of Grandads fields) came up to there & on seeing the bike he asked "who owns that shinny bike" & Grandad responded by saying t'was his & for all good luck Percival did'nt ask him to prove this by cycling it ..... Grandad had never cycled a bike in his life. Some months later this chap was caught, tortured & as described here they tied him to the back of the armoury car & dragged him to his death ....may all of them RIP 🙏.
Glad you said green, white and gold. Forced out of Ireland at the point of an uzi sub machine gun in 1993. Just the last 2years hearing..oh no, the flag is green, white and orange for the prods in the north. Grinding my teeth from the lies. Been hunted still to this day. In my 60s now. No rhyme nor reason to it. Determined to live to piss them off. Rebel Corkonian to my dying breath. Family refused to tell what happened to them, but a few sentences slipped out here and there. So not too hard to see the big picture and fair dues to us. Survivors and fighters they can’t abide. Ha ha! Keep smiling and living your best life. Gets up their noses. 😊
They don't teach this in British schools, i wonder how'd they feel if they knew how Britain treated Irish people for 100's of years. I still can't believe we survived their onslaught. 😢
I studied A Level Modern Political History. The history of Ireland was a significant part of it. It was the reason I wanted to study history because my mother's only response to my question of 'why are we in Northern Ireland (this was in the 80s) was 'it's complicated.' I doubt she knew much about it herself.
They did the same thing to my great grand uncle and threw him into a fountain to die, unfortunately for them he wasn't finished fighting and went on to live a long life after kicking them out.
The ira killed more catholics than the prods!! And those ira bombs killing innocent women and children indiscriminately was virtuous???!!!your history is very selective....😮
@@Rebellescum no they weren’t, Ireland really was treated worse than most. The only times in the Caribbean things got really brutal were some slave revolts in the early 19th century
William Hill was only 16 when he was stationed in Co Cork. Technically he was a policeman but was well liked by all the locals. He was always welcome in the Cork households he visited. Showed no interest in the coflict going on around him. Check out local history society's in Co.Cork for confirmation. He was not the stereotype demonic Black & Tan. The Black & Tans were not let out of British prisons to ironically keep law and order in Ireland which is a Republican myth. They were veterans of WW1 and came home to the UK and elsewhere to economic problems and not the land "fit for heroes" as promised by David Lloyd George. One cannot blame them for economic reasons for joining the Black & Tans. They went to the trenches as young men and knew no other trade but war. If you were an experienced soldier that came home to poverty and was offered to be a decently paid policeman in Ireland I think it is understandable why they joined. However some of their conduct was brutal in Ireland and some of their actions would be recognised as war crimes today under a UN charter. Some of the most notorious Black & Tans were actually fellow Irishmen. Some Black & Tans remained in Ireland and married local women. These particular Black & Tans must have been ok or else they would not have been allowed to stay in Ireland.
@@jixuscrixus1967What point are you trying to make? What about 3 boy band members from the Manchester Regiment that were captured and summarily executed by the IRA in June 1921,Co.Cork? All 3 were young teens. The famous Youghal ambush in Co Cork on 31st May 1921 which was a successful IRA operation using an IED against the band of the Hampshire Regiment killed 7 including a 14;15 and 16 year old. The latter ages are never mentioned in Irish history books of the Irish War of Independence. Kevin Barry was a young brave Irish patriot who paid the ultimate price for Irish freedom. He is immortalised in song as the "lad of 18 summers". The 3 British soldiers from the Duke of Wellington Regiment that were killed in the ambush which he took part in were young too. One of them was only 15 and never had the opportunity to reach 18 summers. In every war or conflict every soldier is directed by his own moral compass.
@@jixuscrixus1967 Pte Harold Washington 2 Bn Duke of Wellington Regiment was only 15 when KIA as a result of the famous Kevin Barry ambush in Dublin on 20th September 1920. Harold was born on 4th October 1904. Almost 2 weeks short of his 16th birthday. His older brother William Washington was KIA in the Great War.
As someone from a protestant background in Co Derry, its crazy how indoctrinated my community are and how little they know of Irish history. I genuinely didn't learn any of this kind of thing until I was in my late 20s/early 30s (coming 40 now). We're taught a little about the potato famine, but little else.
Yea, and then you have loyalist bands playing "the famine song" and think its a good laugh while their politicians post jokes on social media about the famine. And the reality is that almost half tbose who died in Armagh workhouse in one early year of the fanine were listed as protestant and apparantly theres a famine graveyard on the Shankhill.
It's a very good thing that people don't do that at all often--there aren't many worse things you can do to someone. Last time I heard about this kind of thing, some scum in the south-west US did it to some black man, and if I recall correctly, they didn't even know who he was, just an innocent man minding his own business. This was two or three decades ago. It's disgusting, the things people will do to each other.
I'm so sorry about what the Irish people went through but I love the Irish peoples renowned endurance to fight for their freedom from tyranny may God bless the Irish ❤
It rips at my heart hearing things like this... I dated a Brit for a while who was raised in a Brit colony... He saw the empire as being glorious and a civilising factor for the natives... I couldn't take it!
I don't know what period of time you are talking about dating the Brit, but that is how most kids were educated in Britain in the 1960s and beyond. It wasn't just the lack of information, it was the distortion, discrimination and mockery of Irish people. I dated an Irish girl for a while who encouraged me to read and research. I was horrified. Since I became a teacher, I have made sure every student has access to real history.
@@CofarlI've red the history and as a scot I still think the empire was good overall..I don't buy the victimisation narrative either of irish history..its very one sided and you only get a very limited history...one of being victims of the horrible brits...in war bad things happen....soldiers lose control. And you forget in conflict ,these acts were in reprisal for ira murder...that is never mentioned. This cowardly war just after the first World War...the easter rising was cowardly for starters. Dont get me started on the famine...8 million living on subsistence farming...a disaster waiting to happen😅and the landlords...well...that is just capitalism...and the way things we in those days you didn't have the welfare state. The poor brits had it just as bad in the highlands and in the burgeoning factories 140 years ago!!as jonnelly said its all very well getting independence but what does it matter if the landlord is irish or not!!!! As history shows he was right...ireland remained backed economically and socially until the 80s..because of oppression by the bishops. See your history fed by your biased schoolbooks aren't exactly truthful😮
From rural east Galway, I remember asking my grandmother in the early 90’s about Black and Tans and she absolutely would not talk about it… shut the story down straight away Our next door neighbour was taken out of her bed at midnight a week after her 18th birthday by the tans. She was raped and beaten by the entire barracks for no good reason. She was later pegged in to the house to her mother the next morning. My own father remembers her years later as a broken woman, she died young of general ill health. Another neighbour was thrown out of his bedroom window by the tans, stripped, beaten and tied to a truck. They drove a few miles and thrown him over a bridge into a shallow river assuming he was dead. He was found downstream a few hours later. Amazingly he survived. These are genuine stories, and need not be forgotten. It shaped the people around here, later many families were involved in their own way in the rising and the struggle after for independence.
@@Hellserch The Irish Republic, which was betrayed by the Irish Free State (now the Republic of Ireland) in the civil war, is the goal. The entire island under the true Republic.
To the core both my granddads were in the old IRA as were most off our neighbours ,theres so many stories about British crimes against Irish people and the British think they're the good guys now they have so much to answer for throughout the globe, great to see them fall apart karma coming home
@@stephenbyrne2602 so they may have been the people who machine gunned my grandfathers next door neighbour, both of whom were children. Just because my great grandfather was an RIC member who killed an Ira man attacking his police station
I had a bad opinion of the Irish that were fighting for independence from the British, because like everyone else I was lied to by the media. What has happened in Gaza has opened my eyes to all the suffering of the Irish under occupation. I think if there was social media during the Irish struggle, things would have been very different.
@@fradrake11he needs to read true history of what caused the need of unit. During recent 1970s women were involved in gun running or chatting up forces. A snog up alley led to their chat up. To ones death. Forty thousand protestants were ethnically cleansed.. After these sober at work unit of men were stood down Irish terrorism got a free ticket to roam. This man needs to put up evidence of his attention seeking wierd information. The world is changing and starting to recognise Propaghanda and embroidered detail and how groomed ppl are in hate.
Yes there would have been a vote on partation. They terrorised ppl. The Irish killed own ppl. They were racial. Unless you bow to their faith they to date prefer to call them foreigners. We were all british Irish. Ira state terror in former names. They denied ww2 vetrens food bank on return and treated like dirt. The only thing similar with gaza is brainwashed victimhood which holds countries back. The b+tans were security against gun runners... Unless you think the ira groups a new name after their period were friendly little nans.
Being dragged behind the lorries is only a part of what they endured. They were subjected to absolutely horrendous torture before hand. Far worse than people probably imagine.
My face just went thru several contortions tryna understand what i'd just heard....God, my heart breaks and cries for those boys' families! And I pray that justice was served and love eventually won, and that the families eventually healed...
I'm told the Black and Tans were British soldier troublemakers who committed crimes while serving in the British military, and their punishment was to be sent to Ireland. No real punishment, so it didn't deter their behavior.
Russia helped the starving Irish during the last genocide. Russia saved Europe in WW2. The Nazis murdered 30 million Russians. Ireland is occupied by a Nato member. And you support Ukrainian Nazis. Fcuk, you are confused.
It is, dont forget that Jesus Christ, possibly the most beautiful soul ever to live, was tortured to death. So its not just the Brits, humans everywhere throughout history are capable of the most horrible atrocities.
I'm Irish and I live in Britain and in History, my teacher said 'name wars' so I said 'Irish vs England' and he said 'Do not say that'. People started getting suspicious about why I couldn't talk about it, so I stood in front of the class and told them about it. The most horrifying part I told them was about my da. ' My da was 9 years old when British soldiers gave him and his brother 5 euros each and told them to get them some food or they will shoot them dead. My da came out and gave them some food but his brother came out the side door and one of the British soldiers found him and shot him 17 times. My da was and still is traumatised from it.' the teacher told me I was excluded for 5 months because of this.
Stories like that are fucked but not every soldier was like that, my dad got sent to Ireland just after joining the army and the stories he has are fucked from what the IRA used to make kids do to them they turned the kids into threats it’s not normal to think a kid might come up and pull a hand grenade on you drop it and run but the IRA used them in that way, obviously like I say not all of them. every tree has bad apples don’t chop down the entire tree because of it
On both my parents sides O'Brien and Boland fled Ireland no thanks to England's control at those times. My father's mother's mom was born in County Clare Ireland and left during the Great Famine and on my Mom's side the O'Brien ancestor fled Ireland due to being wanted by the British for rebellion!! Damn proud of it 💪🇮🇪🇺🇸😆
There are many, many atrocities committed by the Black and Tans and many will probably never be told but those that are should be documented and brought together to inform the world of this horrific period in Britain's criminal occupation of our Country. May those that fell victim or suffered at their hands Rest in Eternal peace 🙏💚🇮🇪🍀✊
You forget who the Men were almost to a man they were unemployed ex soldiers who had just gone through 4 years of trench warfare. Most of them joined for the pay. And for most of the lads who had to them they were just in the trenches again these are 18 or 20 year old lads who had spent the last 4 years beating to death fellow humans they had become totally desensitised to death from that. Totally the wrong people to be putting into the police but 1000s of them were unemployed they had firearms training and the British needed to reinforce the RIC
@@wargey3431 Thank you so much for explaining this to me. I'm woefully behind i my Irish heritage. I have so much to learn and am so grateful for you to take the time to tell me. Thank you once again for explaining this. What a very sad time🥲
@Cindy C Chesney, mostly they got away with it, because england covered up all the cruelty and even lied to protect their own people, furthermore, it is still happening.
Much love from Oregon, the Irish are a beautiful people in a beautiful place. Almost every bowl I smoke I think about the Irish and learn history, and anything I can about the Irish and Ireland.
120 years ago a British military officer, I never discovered his rank, raped my great grandfather's 7 year old sister. He did this so brutally that she had to have her reproductive organs surgically removed. My great grandfather found out which officer did this, the guy had been bragging to his buddies in a local pub. My great grandfather, at around the age of 20, took several days disassembling that British soldier who died on the last day of that process, depositing pieces of him in Galway, his home county and two other counties. A warrant for his arrest was obtained so he fled to America. A few years later my grand aunt followed but not long after that ended up living out her life in a convent in the Boston area. Every week my great grandfather would take a portion of his pay check and send it back home to his mother to help take care of the remaining children.
Almost certainly a piece of fiction invented by some lying braggard or complete fantasist. There is no doubt that many cruel and wicked atrocities were perpetrated by all sides during the war of Independence and Civil War but also huge numbers of fabrications passed on and handed down through the generations. It's a bit like those claiming family at the GPO in 1916 - if all those were true there'd have been 10's of thousands in there.
I have reserached British Army deaths in Ireland for the period 1919-1921 for over 20 years. I have a casualty roll and can give name,rank,regiment, place,cause and date of death for every British soldier. No death of any British soldie on my list corresponds with the details you provide. I dont think a British officer would boast in a pub that he is a child molester and that he raped a 7 year old girl. In fact there was no British soldiers killed in Co.Galway during the 1919-1921 period as a result of hostile action although a couple of British soldiers died in Co.Galway as a result of accidents. Only one British soldier was killed in Co.Mayo during the conflict and that was Pte Bell of the Border Regiment in an ambush in March 1921. None of the British soldiers including Royal Marines killed in Co.Clare during the conflict. match the details you provide. Captain Wilson of the Bedfordshire & Herefordshire Regiment was the only British soldier KIA in Leitrim which was during an ambush in March 1921. In Co. Roscommon a couple of British officers from the calvary regiment the 9th Lancers were killed in the Scramogue ambush in March 1921. During the month of March 1921 over 30 British soldiers were KIA making it the worst month for the regular British Army during the conflict. None of the British soldiers KIA in the western province of Connaught match the details you provide.
And they have a go at the ladies team for singing Irish songs you couldn't mark their necks with a blow torch.the sun never sets on the Brit empire because god couldn't trust them in the dark.
If they had the capacity to be sure they probably didn’t most of them were ex army volunteers straight out of the trenches very few people who had fought in WW1 came back without some form of mental scarring
@@wargey3431 no one from any war came home unscathed. My Dad was in WW2 and my brothers and cousins were in Nam and others and they all were damaged in one way or another. A cousin committed suicide by cop. None have ever talked much about things they saw or heard, but none of them had the level of cruelty that the black and tans had. In my humble opinion, the black and tans were backed up by cruel england and given free rein to do as they pleased, maybe even encouraged by those in command in england.
@@sandidavis820 even WW2 was very different to world war 1 the cruicified canadian that never happened was spread all along the front my great grandfather was at paschendale when it was reported to have happened and said for the remaineder of the battle they didnt take any german prisoners he said to my old man quite candidly that quite often prisoners wouldnt be taken because you just didnt have the ability to hold them. a trench raid for instance youd have boys asking for mercy and theyd just beat them to death or stab them it was a totally different war these people were also recruited on the premise that they were going to put down a rebelion so it only attracted a certain kind of soldier as well those that were mentally scarred to the point of enjoying killing those who had gone the other way wouldnt have even applied
They were the Loughnane brothers from Shanaglish Co Galway they did alot more to them than just tie them to the back of the truck. My grandfather is from the same parish the story is horrific 🇮🇪😢
There is a photo of both brothers burned bodies in coffins that feature in the local Co.Galway newspapers at the time. It is in some history books too. The perpetrators of this war crime were members of "D" Coy ADRIC the same unit which committed another heinous barbaric war crime when they murdered Fr Michael Griffith in early November 1920. He would be 1 of 3 Catholic clergymen murdered by Crown Forces during the conflict.
@brianoconnor6063 The gent's channel is "The Casual Criminalist". I don't know which video, or he may even have another channel, but it's a start for you!
Because we dared to fight back against an empires army ... We the Irish were branded savages . We had guerilla warfare using guns they stole from British, Irish were seriously out gunned , it was young lads ,farmer, milkmen ,shop keepers etc these were regular people who joined the IRA not military trained soliders. The British make out we the Irish we wrong and just carried out mindless violence against them ,that's the narrative they stick to . Irish were terrorists end of . Which is just totally wrong. Nobody in Ireland wants to go back to any of those times ,never . But the Irish people's weren't savages or terrorists. Look up the song the valley of knockanure, that's basically a story or Irish young lads who fought the black and tans .
Cause Britain also created a lot of good things. Such as pioneering democracy and liberalism. Inventing ideas of capitalism, common law, and limits on executive powers. All of that is important to the heritage of the western English speaking world. I’m an American as well, and I was taught these sort of things from my college professor. And for his background he was a catholic from Brazil and even he recognized the important contributions Britain made to the western world.
@@voxinabox2422Some people in Britain may indeed have done some good things. However the British state brutally invaded, colonised and ethnically cleansed a quarter of the world, not just what they did to Ireland and the Irish people. The Russians have also done some great things...
@@GoogleUser-dwcy A good overall book about the conflict would be "The Irish War of Independence" by Michael Hopkinson. Some IRA veterans of the conflict wrote personal memoirs such as Tom Barry who was the most successful IRA Field Commander in the conflict. He served with the Royal Field Artillery in WW1. His memoir is called "Guerilla Day's in Ireland". The following two IRA Officers Ernie O' Malley and Dan Breen wrote books about their experiences and they are "On Another Mans Wound" and "My Fight For Irish Freedom". Another book is "The Black & Tans" by Richard Bennet. It is worth reading but it has strong anti Irish tones and a lot of erroneous statistics and facts.
I do enjoy Simon's channels. I have been enjoying the story of Irish independence and for some reason bring up similar feelings about our (US) independence
Yes it was genocide. There as no famine in Ireland. We didnt just eat potatoes. There was enough of fish in the sea to feed the Irish population 100 x over.
@@CaseyKCRichardsno genocide...just overpopulation and subsistence farming. Bad decisions by uk government not acting quicker...but in those days the poor were not mollycoddled like today!! You had to work, even during a famine, to eat....self sufficiency was the name of the game back then...can't apply todays values to back then. Pure capitalism ruled. Life wasn't exactly great in the uk back then either...if you were poor.
Pray God.. someday there will b no terrorism or war.. anywhere !! Thank u.. ur like a history book come alive.. u tell it simple & true, straight & honest. WE can tell u put ur heart in it !
This hurt and hatred has been going on long enough with out u resurrecting the pain that both sides have suffered. Unless u lived through the pain and seen the destruction please don't posy your shit!!!
My great granny was just minding her own business in june of 1921 on a farm in Co.Mayo until a truck of black 'n tans came through and fired one bullet but she managed to escape and not get injured 🇮🇪 🤜🇬🇧
My great granny in rural mayo hid people during that time. The Tans came into the house and threatened her. She would not relent. They held a gun to her youngest boy's head. She would not relent. My mother asked her in the 50s or 60s if she had actually been hiding people. Mariah, a tall stern woman, drew herself up and tersely said "do you think I'd tell the lines of YOU?". Her son was traumatized for life after that.
My nan was 12and shot in the back by the black and tans . She was on her way home and was just after a curfew they had imposed. She survived obviously and I onlever saw her scar once and it shocked me she was over 70 then wen I saw it
My nana was from limerick, and was usually quiet and didn’t talk about her childhood. Probably because she was embarrassed and ashamed of the poverty and wanted so desperately just to be as American as possible, but I have a few memories of her commenting on the British, and it was never a good comment. You could feel the negativity boil up but she would just brush off the topic and move on.
My grandpa Tom Kierans grew up in Monaghan but emigrated to Montreal in 1900. He was the president of the ancient order of Hibernians and traveled across the border to Vermont to give money to the IRA. He told my father a story of one of his friends in Ireland for whom there was a "kill on sight" order by the black and tans. That friend came upon the British Colonel who made the order against him and did to the colonel what had been ordered for my Grandpa's friend.
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You’re a great lad for keeping Irish history alive. At this time it’s needed thank you☘️🫶👍
May God bless those innocent boys may they live on in his love forever
The protagonists will be keeping the devil company now
it hurts my soul to hear it again and again but it needs to be highlighted
A incident occurred near where I come from in South Roscommon, where a Tan unit was passing through a quite village and for no good reason one of them shot and killed a toddler while his mother was holding him in her arms standing at the half door of her cottage.
They were absolute filth, and as that man said no one in england knows it as they aren't taught about it in schools.
Seemed to be in their mo dud the same to a mother holding her baby in Gort ...but killed her than also...
@@ko0974 they were absolute scum. The lowest of the low.
I’ve heard this story before actually. Brutal
@@davyholden unreal the type of people they were. Hard to call them human.
Why did they do it?
It doesn’t feel right to click “like” for such a tragic story - but thank you for sharing important history.
It's thumbs up for support of his channel which means it will be seen by more people. Why are you trying to stop that?
For those who don’t know collective punishment is a war crime
Hence why lots if not most of Ireland supports Palestine, they've experienced something similar
@@Fettuccinithings idk if that’s the truth anymore, but before Hasam did that
@@CigaretteEater- hamas?
@@Fettuccinithings yeah autocorrect
@@CigaretteEater-It is the truth. I’m not supporting Hamas and its crazy that we even have time clarify that but Israel committed MANY war crimes against Palestine and still is and is using hamas as an excuse. If they hadn’t created the conditions for hamas to exist then they wouldn’t be a problem. And Hamas’ terrorist actions only hurt the movement since it gives power to Israel trying to discredit the whole of Palestine because of them, but the IDF did worse things and is justifying it under self defence even though that right doesn’t extend to the palestinian people
As a Brit, I am never surprised of the brutality of my nation, especially when practising colonial oppression. It behoves us all to move forward with mutual respect and a joint desire for peace. Long live Ireland
Need backbone English and irish n scots n Welsh were all same race british ..whatever and richer for it..at that time upto illegal uprising 1922.speak to lot of commonwealth ppl they respect uk .then n now.irish do forget fellow citizens of any faith other than their preferred much of their history is embroidered with false narrative not shared by whole populace.of ireland
@@joprocter4573 Can you translate this into English?
We thankfully are peaceful neighbours now . Old wounds best left to heal
To quote Astec camera,' The past is steeped in shame, but tomorrow is fair game". Let's as Englishmen set a new exemplar
I think this is what the Nazis would've said to the English if they'd taken England@@joprocter4573
That channel is really good. Simon has excellent delivery of his subjects
My Nana passed away at the age of 91, I was 14, I'm now 51 and I remember her telling me abt thd Black & Tans. Many of the black & tans were criminals, soilders who would otherwise been in prison. My Nana saw a pregnant woman shot by the black & tans for being on the street after curfew. My Nana rarely spoke abt the violence but the mention of the black & tans she would have a visceral reaction. They were vicious without any rules or regulation.
Yet many, many more Irish were killed by their compatriots during the War or Independence and the Civil War that followed than by the RIC, ADRIC,DMP and all other British Forces combined. A fact that's (of course) completely ignored, or worse, has never been known by those who need to hate and still believe they hold the moral high ground. Eighty years later the IRA set off a bomb in Omagh killing twenty-nine people, including a woman pregnant with twins and before that an endless litany of massacres of defenceless innocent civilians by cowardly, faceless bombers. Maybe spare a though for those next time you sing "glory-o to the bold Fenian men".
Same with me. My grandmother, who was from County Donegal, would also tell me stories of the Black and Tans, and I could tell that the subject was one that brought up memories of great fear and trepidation. The British ruled Ireland through subjugating people to terror and fear. That was the sense I got from my grandmother.
black n tans weren't criminals as you couldn't join the RIC with a criminal record
Yeah but that b'stard Churchill and brit government gave them free reign to do what they liked. Nobody cares about Ireland back then, even when I was young nobody cares about Ireland, now they all love us cause our country is successful.
It's terrible and after all the Irish suffered it's strong that this cruelty is still cruel. Let us never be de-sensitised. So sad for all the losses.
A great grandchild of Famine Emigrants. ❤
We in Ireland all know what the English did to us as a Nation. The English curriculim in schools have have never covered Irish History. Why? And all those young people will never know what you as a country inflected on our nation.
But now all of us and our children are highly educated.
We remember our language which you forced us to stop. We talk to you but we will never forget what you did to our Nation
The English language got you rich...plonker...😅..why else did american companies invest in ireland??. The Irish have a very blinkered view of their anti British history...the real oppressors were the bishops..and you had indepemce and remained poor till the 90s. No mention of subsistence farming and overpopulation...scotlamd had 300000 living in the Highlands...and you had...8 million. Ever heard of malthus😅😅
Enough of you moved here, so can't be that bad
Love content like this it shows the actual history of Ireland, it’s very informative and doesn’t shy from the dark past of our country. Keep it up ❤
Thanks so much!
@@davyholden I don’t remember commenting this I must’ve been drunk lol
The black and Tans arrested my great grandfather, he convinced them he was on their side. They let him go, he then went home got his gun from the top of the wardrobe and went back to join the rebels. True story.
I love biographics , and good on him for the honesty
This video he did was excellent
Who made it@@davyholden
@@DanMkeaneThe chap in the clip is Simon Whistler, and he's an exceptionally prolific TH-camr, with numerous channels, but this specific video can be found on his "Warographics" channel. As I say, he has MANY channels, but of the aforementioned many I recommend Brainblaze for videos that are frequently humorous, interesting, bizarre, entertaining, or if you've any interest in the true crime genre, his Casual Criminalist channel is well worth a go. He uses a number of very talented writers across the countless channels, all of whom have great style, but Simon adds a lot of his own thoughts as he reads their scripts, and he and his team do make some great videos across his little network of channels! Hope this essay of an answer has been helpful! Have a great day! 😊
Ah, Simon. He handles the English history well enough.
I've always liked Simon Whistler he does good, honest history telling.
Excellent story Davy, ia am am very sorry indeed for what has been done to the good people of IRELAND.
You’re one of my fav channels, and you “hit so close to home.”
In the UK Churchill is generally known as a hero (despite him being very racist), but not many people know about him sending the Black and Tans which is sad
Who isn't racist.
Really .
Pretty much every group of people prefer their own kind. Have believe in their group and generally don't self hate. If that's what it means, how do you define it ?
Hating other groups of people?
Is hating other groups of people saying hey we don't want you coming here. Respect our borders .
Racist this racist that its all so tiresome.
It's a made up word by Leon Trotsky (Lev Davidovich Bronstein his real name)
Speaking English has ruined us because we watch American psyops aka programs and films and we lap it all up.
Galipoli invasion as well , his decision..
ANZAC and Irish were sent to attack the turks in a daft position , suicidal really.
But was it a stupid decision?
Absolutely not if you don't care about those people.
They diverted troops to defend themselves and left Palestine for the taking and with it the Balfour declaration could be fulfilled.
@@FelixMendelson just a racist in denial you
@@FelixMendelsonshut up please you have no education at all.😂😂
Irish are racist,out protesting against people fleeing persecution in the middle East
In Newry they held back the fire brigade and anyone else that tried to help two teenage boys from escaping a burning building.
They stood outside, laughing and cheering as the boys burned to death.
My Dad, would be almost 110 years now & i heard him talk of an IRA chap who was a frequent visitor to Dads family farm & who's bicycle he'd painted in Green White & Gold happened go be parked in the yard when Percival (he'd his field kitchen in one of Grandads fields) came up to there & on seeing the bike he asked "who owns that shinny bike" & Grandad responded by saying t'was his & for all good luck Percival did'nt ask him to prove this by cycling it ..... Grandad had never cycled a bike in his life.
Some months later this chap was caught, tortured & as described here they tied him to the back of the armoury car & dragged him to his death ....may all of them RIP 🙏.
is percival slang for brit army or brit in general
Glad you said green, white and gold. Forced out of Ireland at the point of an uzi sub machine gun in 1993. Just the last 2years hearing..oh no, the flag is green, white and orange for the prods in the north. Grinding my teeth from the lies. Been hunted still to this day. In my 60s now. No rhyme nor reason to it. Determined to live to piss them off. Rebel Corkonian to my dying breath. Family refused to tell what happened to them, but a few sentences slipped out here and there. So not too hard to see the big picture and fair dues to us. Survivors and fighters they can’t abide. Ha ha! Keep smiling and living your best life. Gets up their noses. 😊
They don't teach this in British schools, i wonder how'd they feel if they knew how Britain treated Irish people for 100's of years. I still can't believe we survived their onslaught. 😢
I studied A Level Modern Political History. The history of Ireland was a significant part of it. It was the reason I wanted to study history because my mother's only response to my question of 'why are we in Northern Ireland (this was in the 80s) was 'it's complicated.' I doubt she knew much about it herself.
They do teach of bombings in Belfast an england later children adult nothing bothered them..soldiers an horses in london
They did the same thing to my great grand uncle and threw him into a fountain to die, unfortunately for them he wasn't finished fighting and went on to live a long life after kicking them out.
Them was fellow citizens
Human cruelty knows no bounds😢😢😢😢😢😢
The ira killed more catholics than the prods!! And those ira bombs killing innocent women and children indiscriminately was virtuous???!!!your history is very selective....😮
As A Alke British Carribbean This Story Resonates Deeply, 😢
Beyond Words! Salute 🙏🏾
How can these resonate? The Black and Tans were British
@@SmcdMcd-d2k because many british colonises were treated the same or worse.
@@Rebellescum my bad I thought you meant that you were British. But the irish were treated the worst
@@Rebellescum no they weren’t, Ireland really was treated worse than most. The only times in the Caribbean things got really brutal were some slave revolts in the early 19th century
@@Greebo-ne1sc the Irish in Ireland were not slaves. Don't try and lecture me on the country i lived and grew up in
Don’t ever place a bet with William Hill. He started his chain of betting shops from the money he made as a black & tan.
I didn't know that.
William Hill was only 16 when he was stationed in Co Cork. Technically he was a policeman but was well liked by all the locals. He was always welcome in the Cork households he visited. Showed no interest in the coflict going on around him. Check out local history society's in Co.Cork for confirmation. He was not the stereotype demonic Black & Tan. The Black & Tans were not let out of British prisons to ironically keep law and order in Ireland which is a Republican myth. They were veterans of WW1 and came home to the UK and elsewhere to economic problems and not the land "fit for heroes" as promised by David Lloyd George. One cannot blame them for economic reasons for joining the Black & Tans. They went to the trenches as young men and knew no other trade but war. If you were an experienced soldier that came home to poverty and was offered to be a decently paid policeman in Ireland I think it is understandable why they joined. However some of their conduct was brutal in Ireland and some of their actions would be recognised as war crimes today under a UN charter. Some of the most notorious Black & Tans were actually fellow Irishmen. Some Black & Tans remained in Ireland and married local women. These particular Black & Tans must have been ok or else they would not have been allowed to stay in Ireland.
@@johnroche7541 And the parachute regiment are a lovely bunch of lads, it’s just soldiers A, B, C, D and E that had a shoot to kill mindset.
@@jixuscrixus1967What point are you trying to make? What about 3 boy band members from the Manchester Regiment that were captured and summarily executed by the IRA in June 1921,Co.Cork? All 3 were young teens. The famous Youghal ambush in Co Cork on 31st May 1921 which was a successful IRA operation using an IED against the band of the Hampshire Regiment killed 7 including a 14;15 and 16 year old. The latter ages are never mentioned in Irish history books of the Irish War of Independence. Kevin Barry was a young brave Irish patriot who paid the ultimate price for Irish freedom. He is immortalised in song as the "lad of 18 summers". The 3 British soldiers from the Duke of Wellington Regiment that were killed in the ambush which he took part in were young too. One of them was only 15 and never had the opportunity to reach 18 summers. In every war or conflict every soldier is directed by his own moral compass.
@@jixuscrixus1967 Pte Harold Washington 2 Bn Duke of Wellington Regiment was only 15 when KIA as a result of the famous Kevin Barry ambush in Dublin on 20th September 1920. Harold was born on 4th October 1904. Almost 2 weeks short of his 16th birthday. His older brother William Washington was KIA in the Great War.
As someone from a protestant background in Co Derry, its crazy how indoctrinated my community are and how little they know of Irish history. I genuinely didn't learn any of this kind of thing until I was in my late 20s/early 30s (coming 40 now). We're taught a little about the potato famine, but little else.
Yea, and then you have loyalist bands playing "the famine song" and think its a good laugh while their politicians post jokes on social media about the famine. And the reality is that almost half tbose who died in Armagh workhouse in one early year of the fanine were listed as protestant and apparantly theres a famine graveyard on the Shankhill.
@adrianred236 Irish history is our history, most of us don't realise we have Stockholm syndrome.
Merry go round, throw up.
Wow, that's horrible! As an Irish person, I feel especially sad for the poor boys 😥
Shocking
The British Crown forces murdered 3 Catholic clergyman during the conflict and also there was rape.
Same
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Is it true? These clips don offer any auhthenticity
It's a very good thing that people don't do that at all often--there aren't many worse things you can do to someone. Last time I heard about this kind of thing, some scum in the south-west US did it to some black man, and if I recall correctly, they didn't even know who he was, just an innocent man minding his own business. This was two or three decades ago. It's disgusting, the things people will do to each other.
His name was James Byrd.
The Black and Tans were moved straight from Ireland to Palestine.....
Our history breaks my heart. Ireland suffered so many years of torture. Jesus Christ it was genocide
One of my favourite channels showing a story from another of my favourite channels, thank you very much Davy 👏👍
I'm so sorry about what the Irish people went through but I love the Irish peoples renowned endurance to fight for their freedom from tyranny may God bless the Irish ❤
The whole world needs to know how England kept an controlled Ireland 😡
@Darlene Martin, england lies and tells the world they are innocent.
@@sandidavis820 bull shit , we know .
@@darlenemartin2168 if you know, why are you saying bull shit??? I was agreeing
@@sandidavis820 what England says , they just pretend they never treated the Irish like shit .
@@darlenemartin2168 I was agreeing, england is in the wrong
Love that guys videos. Never heard that story before absolutely horrific
It rips at my heart hearing things like this... I dated a Brit for a while who was raised in a Brit colony... He saw the empire as being glorious and a civilising factor for the natives... I couldn't take it!
I don't know what period of time you are talking about dating the Brit, but that is how most kids were educated in Britain in the 1960s and beyond. It wasn't just the lack of information, it was the distortion, discrimination and mockery of Irish people. I dated an Irish girl for a while who encouraged me to read and research. I was horrified. Since I became a teacher, I have made sure every student has access to real history.
The majority actually believethis. There's a reason colonialism isn't on the curriculum... Ignorance is bliss as they say!
@@CofarlI've red the history and as a scot I still think the empire was good overall..I don't buy the victimisation narrative either of irish history..its very one sided and you only get a very limited history...one of being victims of the horrible brits...in war bad things happen....soldiers lose control. And you forget in conflict ,these acts were in reprisal for ira murder...that is never mentioned. This cowardly war just after the first World War...the easter rising was cowardly for starters. Dont get me started on the famine...8 million living on subsistence farming...a disaster waiting to happen😅and the landlords...well...that is just capitalism...and the way things we in those days you didn't have the welfare state. The poor brits had it just as bad in the highlands and in the burgeoning factories 140 years ago!!as jonnelly said its all very well getting independence but what does it matter if the landlord is irish or not!!!! As history shows he was right...ireland remained backed economically and socially until the 80s..because of oppression by the bishops. See your history fed by your biased schoolbooks aren't exactly truthful😮
James Connelly...one of your own i may add.
I'm glad that Simon Whistler mentioned it
My grand fathers youngest brother was murdered by the black and tans for having his hands in his pockets on a cold day.
From rural east Galway, I remember asking my grandmother in the early 90’s about Black and Tans and she absolutely would not talk about it… shut the story down straight away
Our next door neighbour was taken out of her bed at midnight a week after her 18th birthday by the tans. She was raped and beaten by the entire barracks for no good reason. She was later pegged in to the house to her mother the next morning. My own father remembers her years later as a broken woman, she died young of general ill health.
Another neighbour was thrown out of his bedroom window by the tans, stripped, beaten and tied to a truck. They drove a few miles and thrown him over a bridge into a shallow river assuming he was dead. He was found downstream a few hours later.
Amazingly he survived.
These are genuine stories, and need not be forgotten. It shaped the people around here, later many families were involved in their own way in the rising and the struggle after for independence.
Sinn Fein are the majority party in the North of Ireland. Independence for Ireland is just a matter of time👊🏿
Sinn Fein are bought and sold now, sad really,. Not one political party that represents the Irish people today, fact
@@292Nigel You are ignorant
United Ireland is not the end goal.
@@vonbeedle554 What is the end goal of not independence?
@@Hellserch The Irish Republic, which was betrayed by the Irish Free State (now the Republic of Ireland) in the civil war, is the goal. The entire island under the true Republic.
Those poor boys , sickening..
Makes my blood boil.
The Crown Forces killed 3 Catholic clergymen and committed rape.
To the core both my granddads were in the old IRA as were most off our neighbours ,theres so many stories about British crimes against Irish people and the British think they're the good guys now they have so much to answer for throughout the globe, great to see them fall apart karma coming home
@@stephenbyrne2602 were they the one's that blew up kids in England?
@@stephenbyrne2602check the numbers
@@stephenbyrne2602 so they may have been the people who machine gunned my grandfathers next door neighbour, both of whom were children. Just because my great grandfather was an RIC member who killed an Ira man attacking his police station
With armoured cars and tanks and guns, they came to take away our sons, every man should stand behind the men behind the wire 😢
I had a bad opinion of the Irish that were fighting for independence from the British, because like everyone else I was lied to by the media. What has happened in Gaza has opened my eyes to all the suffering of the Irish under occupation. I think if there was social media during the Irish struggle, things would have been very different.
I appreciate your comments and agree. ✌️
It was part of UK soveignenty at time.
@@fradrake11he needs to read true history of what caused the need of unit. During recent 1970s women were involved in gun running or chatting up forces. A snog up alley led to their chat up. To ones death. Forty thousand protestants were ethnically cleansed.. After these sober at work unit of men were stood down Irish terrorism got a free ticket to roam. This man needs to put up evidence of his attention seeking wierd information. The world is changing and starting to recognise Propaghanda and embroidered detail and how groomed ppl are in hate.
Yes there would have been a vote on partation. They terrorised ppl. The Irish killed own ppl. They were racial. Unless you bow to their faith they to date prefer to call them foreigners. We were all british Irish. Ira state terror in former names. They denied ww2 vetrens food bank on return and treated like dirt. The only thing similar with gaza is brainwashed victimhood which holds countries back. The b+tans were security against gun runners... Unless you think the ira groups a new name after their period were friendly little nans.
This comment makes me feel ill
Being dragged behind the lorries is only a part of what they endured. They were subjected to absolutely horrendous torture before hand. Far worse than people probably imagine.
My face just went thru several contortions tryna understand what i'd just heard....God, my heart breaks and cries for those boys' families! And I pray that justice was served and love eventually won, and that the families eventually healed...
I'm told the Black and Tans were British soldier troublemakers who committed crimes while serving in the British military, and their punishment was to be sent to Ireland. No real punishment, so it didn't deter their behavior.
Im proud to be Irish. And how strong we are
Great to see you supporting Ukraine aswell brother!
Russia helped the starving Irish during the last genocide. Russia saved Europe in WW2. The Nazis murdered 30 million Russians. Ireland is occupied by a Nato member. And you support Ukrainian Nazis. Fcuk, you are confused.
No stronger or weaker than any other clan, tribe, nation or race.
@@philipholmes6253Oh ffs Phil give it a break, there's a good lad 👍
@@emcc8598 Why should I stop reminding those who wish to believe otherwise of the essential sameness of all humanity?
Our gallant hero in the background. Nice touch.
Sounds like something the IDF would do.
Hideous. Unforgivable.
That’s horrible but that shows what a cruel world we live in
Absolutely brutal
It is, dont forget that Jesus Christ, possibly the most beautiful soul ever to live, was tortured to death. So its not just the Brits, humans everywhere throughout history are capable of the most horrible atrocities.
The Brits
I'm Irish and I live in Britain and in History, my teacher said 'name wars' so I said 'Irish vs England' and he said 'Do not say that'. People started getting suspicious about why I couldn't talk about it, so I stood in front of the class and told them about it. The most horrifying part I told them was about my da. ' My da was 9 years old when British soldiers gave him and his brother 5 euros each and told them to get them some food or they will shoot them dead. My da came out and gave them some food but his brother came out the side door and one of the British soldiers found him and shot him 17 times. My da was and still is traumatised from it.' the teacher told me I was excluded for 5 months because of this.
Euro’s in that time ? Lmao
Well that sounds like the British are still trying to keep you down, in my opinion at least. I’d be angry.
Stories like that are fucked but not every soldier was like that, my dad got sent to Ireland just after joining the army and the stories he has are fucked from what the IRA used to make kids do to them they turned the kids into threats it’s not normal to think a kid might come up and pull a hand grenade on you drop it and run but the IRA used them in that way, obviously like I say not all of them. every tree has bad apples don’t chop down the entire tree because of it
Someday someone will be born that can be a leader that will help us get back our land
Euros?.. sorry, mate. You blew it with that..
excellent Davy thank you
So sad, i hate this story it hard to hear... feckin animals them black and tans were 🍀🍀🇮🇪🇮🇪
Hard to stomach... Poor lads.... Absolute terror
Dark dark days. Let's be sure to honor our grandmothers and grandfathers - think of what they endured. 💚🥀
That's sadly not even half off what they did to them two young lads
On both my parents sides O'Brien and Boland fled Ireland no thanks to England's control at those times. My father's mother's mom was born in County Clare Ireland and left during the Great Famine and on my Mom's side the O'Brien ancestor fled Ireland due to being wanted by the British for rebellion!! Damn proud of it 💪🇮🇪🇺🇸😆
There are many, many atrocities committed by the Black and Tans and many will probably never be told but those that are should be documented and brought together to inform the world of this horrific period in Britain's criminal occupation of our Country. May those that fell victim or suffered at their hands Rest in Eternal peace 🙏💚🇮🇪🍀✊
Heart breaking. Cruel and evil. hope they got their karma. 😢😥🙏
Horrific
You forget who the Men were almost to a man they were unemployed ex soldiers who had just gone through 4 years of trench warfare.
Most of them joined for the pay.
And for most of the lads who had to them they were just in the trenches again these are 18 or 20 year old lads who had spent the last 4 years beating to death fellow humans they had become totally desensitised to death from that. Totally the wrong people to be putting into the police but 1000s of them were unemployed they had firearms training and the British needed to reinforce the RIC
@@wargey3431 Is that a good reason for being cruel???
@@wargey3431 Thank you so much for explaining this to me. I'm woefully behind i my Irish heritage. I have so much to learn and am so grateful for you to take the time to tell me. Thank you once again for explaining this. What a very sad time🥲
@Cindy C Chesney, mostly they got away with it, because england covered up all the cruelty and even lied to protect their own people, furthermore, it is still happening.
Much love from Oregon, the Irish are a beautiful people in a beautiful place. Almost every bowl I smoke I think about the Irish and learn history, and anything I can about the Irish and Ireland.
He looks like he hasn't sleeped xxx
Needs to lay off the reefer
@@97emmet That's the effects of the drink right there.
@@takeonedailyMaybe less racist stereotyping and actually watch his videos where he explains the issue with his eyes.
@@emcc8598 I'm an American. Being racist is a part of my identity.
@@takeonedaily Fair enough
I believe that Seamus Heaney also mentioned this tragic event in the War of Independence in his poem called The Tollund Man
120 years ago a British military officer, I never discovered his rank, raped my great grandfather's 7 year old sister. He did this so brutally that she had to have her reproductive organs surgically removed. My great grandfather found out which officer did this, the guy had been bragging to his buddies in a local pub. My great grandfather, at around the age of 20, took several days disassembling that British soldier who died on the last day of that process, depositing pieces of him in Galway, his home county and two other counties. A warrant for his arrest was obtained so he fled to America. A few years later my grand aunt followed but not long after that ended up living out her life in a convent in the Boston area. Every week my great grandfather would take a portion of his pay check and send it back home to his mother to help take care of the remaining children.
It's amazing how many people had this guy as a grandad, see the story every few days. He must have been a prolific shagger
Good, I hope that the British s@um suffered.
Absolute scum of the earth makes my blood boil. That poor wee girl, my heart goes out to her.
Almost certainly a piece of fiction invented by some lying braggard or complete fantasist. There is no doubt that many cruel and wicked atrocities were perpetrated by all sides during the war of Independence and Civil War but also huge numbers of fabrications passed on and handed down through the generations. It's a bit like those claiming family at the GPO in 1916 - if all those were true there'd have been 10's of thousands in there.
I have reserached British Army deaths in Ireland for the period 1919-1921 for over 20 years. I have a casualty roll and can give name,rank,regiment, place,cause and date of death for every British soldier. No death of any British soldie on my list corresponds with the details you provide. I dont think a British officer would boast in a pub that he is a child molester and that he raped a 7 year old girl. In fact there was no British soldiers killed in Co.Galway during the 1919-1921 period as a result of hostile action although a couple of British soldiers died in Co.Galway as a result of accidents. Only one British soldier was killed in Co.Mayo during the conflict and that was Pte Bell of the Border Regiment in an ambush in March 1921. None of the British soldiers including Royal Marines killed in Co.Clare during the conflict. match the details you provide. Captain Wilson of the Bedfordshire & Herefordshire Regiment was the only British soldier KIA in Leitrim which was during an ambush in March 1921. In Co. Roscommon a couple of British officers from the calvary regiment the 9th Lancers were killed in the Scramogue ambush in March 1921. During the month of March 1921 over 30 British soldiers were KIA making it the worst month for the regular British Army during the conflict. None of the British soldiers KIA in the western province of Connaught match the details you provide.
Dear young man 🥺This is a history paradigm and a sad situation between Suffering people vs. Predator people !!😓😓😥
And they have a go at the ladies team for singing Irish songs you couldn't mark their necks with a blow torch.the sun never sets on the Brit empire because god couldn't trust them in the dark.
God bless two little boys. 😢😢😢
Ruthless people, should be ashamed…putting it mildly
If they had the capacity to be sure they probably didn’t most of them were ex army volunteers straight out of the trenches very few people who had fought in WW1 came back without some form of mental scarring
@@wargey3431 no one from any war came home unscathed. My Dad was in WW2 and my brothers and cousins were in Nam and others and they all were damaged in one way or another. A cousin committed suicide by cop. None have ever talked much about things they saw or heard, but none of them had the level of cruelty that the black and tans had. In my humble opinion, the black and tans were backed up by cruel england and given free rein to do as they pleased, maybe even encouraged by those in command in england.
@@sandidavis820 even WW2 was very different to world war 1
the cruicified canadian that never happened was spread all along the front my great grandfather was at paschendale when it was reported to have happened and said for the remaineder of the battle they didnt take any german prisoners
he said to my old man quite candidly that quite often prisoners wouldnt be taken because you just didnt have the ability to hold them. a trench raid for instance youd have boys asking for mercy and theyd just beat them to death or stab them
it was a totally different war
these people were also recruited on the premise that they were going to put down a rebelion so it only attracted a certain kind of soldier as well those that were mentally scarred to the point of enjoying killing those who had gone the other way wouldnt have even applied
They were the Loughnane brothers from Shanaglish Co Galway they did alot more to them than just tie them to the back of the truck. My grandfather is from the same parish the story is horrific 🇮🇪😢
There is a photo of both brothers burned bodies in coffins that feature in the local Co.Galway newspapers at the time. It is in some history books too. The perpetrators of this war crime were members of "D" Coy ADRIC the same unit which committed another heinous barbaric war crime when they murdered Fr Michael Griffith in early November 1920. He would be 1 of 3 Catholic clergymen murdered by Crown Forces during the conflict.
#irishhistory #warofindependence
Hey Davy, you got the link to this documentary??
@brianoconnor6063 He has a true crime channel...I'll see if I can find it!
@brianoconnor6063 The gent's channel is "The Casual Criminalist". I don't know which video, or he may even have another channel, but it's a start for you!
@@emilyflotilla931you are a god send
@iz_echo6363 I'm grateful you saw the comment, and I could help. I love Simon's style. Stay safe out there. Namaste
Omg simon whistler does everything such justice
How does the world not hold Britain responsible?
The Butchers Apron that's what my people call that lot
@@davidwalters4906 my people do as well. American by birth but still %100 irish by blood! No plastic here!
Because we dared to fight back against an empires army ... We the Irish were branded savages . We had guerilla warfare using guns they stole from British, Irish were seriously out gunned , it was young lads ,farmer, milkmen ,shop keepers etc these were regular people who joined the IRA not military trained soliders. The British make out we the Irish we wrong and just carried out mindless violence against them ,that's the narrative they stick to . Irish were terrorists end of . Which is just totally wrong. Nobody in Ireland wants to go back to any of those times ,never . But the Irish people's weren't savages or terrorists.
Look up the song the valley of knockanure, that's basically a story or Irish young lads who fought the black and tans .
Cause Britain also created a lot of good things. Such as pioneering democracy and liberalism. Inventing ideas of capitalism, common law, and limits on executive powers. All of that is important to the heritage of the western English speaking world. I’m an American as well, and I was taught these sort of things from my college professor. And for his background he was a catholic from Brazil and even he recognized the important contributions Britain made to the western world.
@@voxinabox2422Some people in Britain may indeed have done some good things. However the British state brutally invaded, colonised and ethnically cleansed a quarter of the world, not just what they did to Ireland and the Irish people. The Russians have also done some great things...
Great to see you put simons video up. I have been following him for years. Thanks dave. Can you attach the link to simons video.
If you don't know about the black and tans then you need to read a book
I'm reading about the Troubles at the moment, can you recommend some good books about the Black and Tans and that time period?
@@GoogleUser-dwcy A good overall book about the conflict would be "The Irish War of Independence" by Michael Hopkinson. Some IRA veterans of the conflict wrote personal memoirs such as Tom Barry who was the most successful IRA Field Commander in the conflict. He served with the Royal Field Artillery in WW1. His memoir is called "Guerilla Day's in Ireland". The following two IRA Officers Ernie O' Malley and Dan Breen wrote books about their experiences and they are "On Another Mans Wound" and "My Fight For Irish Freedom". Another book is "The Black & Tans" by Richard Bennet. It is worth reading but it has strong anti Irish tones and a lot of erroneous statistics and facts.
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May God bless and protect the courageous and righteous people of Ireland
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I do enjoy Simon's channels. I have been enjoying the story of Irish independence and for some reason bring up similar feelings about our (US) independence
the whole world needs to know these stories.
British genocide is a fact in Ireland.
Yes it was genocide. There as no famine in Ireland. We didnt just eat potatoes. There was enough of fish in the sea to feed the Irish population 100 x over.
@@CaseyKCRichardscmon mate
@@godlovesyou1995 ouch it hurts being English. Do your research.
@@CaseyKCRichardsno genocide...just overpopulation and subsistence farming. Bad decisions by uk government not acting quicker...but in those days the poor were not mollycoddled like today!! You had to work, even during a famine, to eat....self sufficiency was the name of the game back then...can't apply todays values to back then. Pure capitalism ruled. Life wasn't exactly great in the uk back then either...if you were poor.
To survive...in a workhouse .the poor in the uk faced the same...
Pray God.. someday there will b no terrorism or war.. anywhere !! Thank u.. ur like a history book come alive.. u tell it simple & true, straight & honest. WE can tell u put ur heart in it !
Bless us❤we soldiers of eire freedom❤
This hurt and hatred has been going on long enough with out u resurrecting the pain that both sides have suffered. Unless u lived through the pain and seen the destruction please don't posy your shit!!!
In my readings I recall that the Auxiliary Division of the Royal Irish Constabulatory were worse than the B&T’s.
That strat hanging on the wall ...very Rory Gallagher 🎸🎸.
Poor lad looks like he hasn't gotten sleep in hours
We will forgive because it is history. We wont forget because it is our history .
My great granny was just minding her own business in june of 1921 on a farm in Co.Mayo until a truck of black 'n tans came through and fired one bullet but she managed to escape and not get injured 🇮🇪 🤜🇬🇧
God almighty 😞🇮🇪the end of that short broke my heart
Yet our people forget because they haven't been through it.
My great granny in rural mayo hid people during that time. The Tans came into the house and threatened her. She would not relent. They held a gun to her youngest boy's head. She would not relent. My mother asked her in the 50s or 60s if she had actually been hiding people. Mariah, a tall stern woman, drew herself up and tersely said "do you think I'd tell the lines of YOU?". Her son was traumatized for life after that.
My nan was 12and shot in the back by the black and tans . She was on her way home and was just after a curfew they had imposed. She survived obviously and I onlever saw her scar once and it shocked me she was over 70 then wen I saw it
Simon Whistler is a good storyteller.
My nana was from limerick, and was usually quiet and didn’t talk about her childhood. Probably because she was embarrassed and ashamed of the poverty and wanted so desperately just to be as American as possible, but I have a few memories of her commenting on the British, and it was never a good comment. You could feel the negativity boil up but she would just brush off the topic and move on.
It's hard, lad.
It's so awful. I would love to know why anyone would do that to children , any children. 💚🇮🇪☘️
Pro tip: Don't insult a bunch of madmen.
My family left for England and America just before this, would say feel lucky but they went through a famin and a few rebellions before leaving
My grandpa Tom Kierans grew up in Monaghan but emigrated to Montreal in 1900. He was the president of the ancient order of Hibernians and traveled across the border to Vermont to give money to the IRA. He told my father a story of one of his friends in Ireland for whom there was a "kill on sight" order by the black and tans. That friend came upon the British Colonel who made the order against him and did to the colonel what had been ordered for my Grandpa's friend.
Erin Go Bragh! 😢
Tank ya davy
Thank you!
The black and tans are taking over again