Such a badass bike!! 2 questions, will they ever make a hardtail and second whats is the process for removing a damaged carbon tube and will shops be able to do this or does it have tio go back to Atherton to be repaired!!
I watched the dream build video of this bike. Very interesting but I don’t like the look myself. Not convinced the price matches the bike compared to others for the same price.
If one would break a tube, by a rock strike or something else. is the bike then done, or can you refit a new tube? other carbon bikes can be repaired, but is this different? can the bonding process be undone, and refitted with a new tube?
What are the geometry numbers? I'm 186cm with an inseam of 90cm and longer arms, looking at XL with 490mm reach. What is the difference between low and tall frame options? When will I be able to buy the Trail 150? Will you ship to Russia? Looking forward to answers but I'm not holding my hopes up that you actually answer.
I just don't get this bike, I mean it's pretty rad, but how is something like that feasible for market? Is that not just going to be exorbitantly expensive? Unno bikes come to mind when I see this.
I dont mean to be so off topic but does any of you know of a tool to log back into an instagram account? I stupidly lost my login password. I appreciate any tips you can give me
@Angel Parker thanks for your reply. I found the site through google and im trying it out now. Seems to take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
Consdering the amount of R&D you invested into the titanium/carbon custom stuff, it is suprising there was not more time invested into the proper seat tube design. I.e. simple straight tube which allows seat post to go deeper... Otherwise, nice bike!
Its a very old technique, look/time was doing it 30 years ago. They fail eventually. The aluminum and carbon and adhesive expand and contract at different rates. They will never outlast a strictly carbon or metal frame
@@janeblogs324 yep, 30 years ago look/time were using a Renishaw RenAM 500Q to 3D print titanium lugs with double wall, they were also using the exact same adhesive the Atherton's bikes use, as well as the same carbon fibres, resin and process to make the tubes. But all comes down to just one thing, aluminum and carbon and adhesive expands and contracts at different rates and engineering will never be able to overcome that! Poor Gee, if he only asked you before he started his enterprise! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Long overdue interview on Gee and the new bike. Absolutely fascinating. Its a real shame Gee didn't post much at the world cups understand they wanted to be low key. Would have loved to hear about team selection and why also. Thanks GMBN 👍💪
Great build! Some questions: 1. Frame weights (vs full CF competition) For some applications geo is probably more important, but this still seems like a big one here 2. Plans for an XC/light trail frame (linked to first question I guess) 3. What sort of Ti powder?
Atherton said they are working on distribution for the US, i have no idea who tho.. kinda hard to stock bikes when they are custom built per rider size.
@@stoneenforcer Thanks and I imagine they would have to have a website where you input your rider specification to have that bike built and then shipped to your home. I also imagine it would be expensive as a custom built bike.
@@stoneenforcer That's cheaper than I would think for a custom built bike, but that's till a lot of coin. I do see quite a few bikes in that price range out when riding.
Great questions and review! Brilliant to see the bike and specs they ride for "trail". 🥰 P.S. Like the Q&A Doddy did with Gee ... I found the smacking of the chewing gum a bit off putting. 🤮
Very expensive manufacturing for what benefit...other than Novel??? They're never going to be able to buy components in large enough volumes to complete with your big players, so always going to be tough to compete. Guess they're going for exclusivity...???
These bikes are serious business. But bigger is having 3 of the coolest motherlickas to ever grace MTB. They are elite, yet dont alienate anyone and you can easily buy into the spirit of the brand. Yeah, feels like Atherton is gonna be a huge, very influential Cycle brand. Good fucking luck to everyone involved.
3:58 yes its very strong when new but the aluminum and carbon and adhesive expand and contract at different rates. It will take 20-30 years but the bonding adhesive let's go eventually. They will never outlast a strictly carbon or metal frame, but if its light and strong the write off might be worth it
I'm thrilled and I really want to have a bike like this, would you swap it for a catastrophically constructed bike from another company? Then I would send you my Canyon Torque in exchange. 🥳
Great interview, but some questions: Why the suspension platform? What considerations did you have for anti-squat and anti-rise. What is the suspension curve on the bike? Do you run a custom shock tune to match the suspension curve? What kind of finishing do you do post additive manufacturing on the Ti parts? How many bearings on the frame - some of the pivots and pivot hardware looks quite small?
R&D at Robot Bikes, but looks to have been refined slightly. Great to see the Atherton's with their own brand but a big thank you to Ed & Co for the original concept. Success to you all.
The Atherton bikes look amazing ,right weapons 😎 Great Bikecheck Gee and Doddy I know where I'll be going if I get to be able to do a dream build bike 👍
So to how guy. Gee Atherton to new custom factory bike in #GMBN of the epic #GMBNTech incredibl the ingeniri and good materials a futur of #Moutainbiking types of enjoys. Esprms the grand new 🤘😀
Is it possible that maybe in the future we can swap parts on this bike? for example make the fork slacker and just replace the front part? I know that this would require special tools, but maybe that can be done at the factory?
Ive been talking to Atherton for months about buying their bike but ive yet to see a serious rider do a performance review on the bike. Waiting for rider feedback before i drop the coin. $8k usd
I’d bet they’re repairable too with the bonded carbon tubes. If one does break, I would guess you could send it back and get the tube replaced. Cool idea!
It's already there (in the DH version). Andy Caine, Nike’s Vice President of footwear design has bike #4. There's an article on Atherton Bikes Homepage
Question... If you do see that damage has been done, can it be repaired? Can the Ti lugs be reused? What if you extended that double overlap for strength and stiffness and used an adhesive that can be reheated and taken back apart? On that abuse tip. May I recommend a sub brand called Affey Bikes that uses the same reusable technology to make hard tail dirt jump and BMX frames.
The problem is the lug is 10x stiffer than the carbon. It create a massive stress riser. The lugs are meant to be knife edged to flex at the transition, but these double lugs are still too stiff even if they had large knife edges
I love who Gee is, I love that a long time racer has taking a jump and risk to start a bike company, but as a salesman, he didn't sell it to us. From his view to a potential buyer , why IS it better? I'm sure its amazing, but he isn't putting that forward. Is the rear suspension curve linear or progressive? Can i change lengths here and there? roughly what sizes are there. Why do you spec a complete build as you do? how long do they take to make? use these opportunities to get your brand going. Not what you like as a rider. You need a salesperson to talk it up. Not talk about the components he likes i can get from anywhere. Love you Gee, but your a business developer now, not just a rider
Always make me chuckle a bit when the term "bonded" is used. Sounds better than "glued together" doesn't it? I still wouldn't buy a bike thats been glued together regardless of what they say. Prefer a good weld. However it does look awesome.
@@kyleslater5245 The thing that irritates me about this is the claims about the glue and how strong it is no matter what you rename it (expoxy, resin, bond) glue is glue! Yes they have been tested at rampage or world cup circuits. However, their bikes will be different to Joe publics and built specifically for them. Also these haven't been tested over years of ownership. Going through all british seasons, in and out of hot cars, hot/cold sheds etc.I refuse to believe that glue is stronger than two bits of metal welded together! Especially over a long period of time.
I'd imagine adding lugs into that type of tube would compromise its strength. Easiest thing would be to have a clamp around design, although that would obscure the branding! I think there's enough of us that just run a back pack with no bottles that it wasn't worth adding anything as a standard option
Does he have something in his mouth? Is he chewing gum? Or it is just his mouthor/and jaw that makes it look that way. Anyway what ever it is; for me it made the whole thing un professional, and tbh made me loose confidence in the bike... Weird but that's the feel I had.
Is it just a coincidence that Gee slots together a bong at exactly 4:20...?
Illuminati confirmed?
I made one out of a Super 8 downtube.
I can recommend Fox 40 stanchions for the heavy breathers.
while demonstrating a titanium joint..
oh my god
Creator of Hard Line: ‘yeah we really hammered this bike...’
... I guess it pretty well tested lol
Such a badass bike!! 2 questions, will they ever make a hardtail and second whats is the process for removing a damaged carbon tube and will shops be able to do this or does it have tio go back to Atherton to be repaired!!
I watched the dream build video of this bike. Very interesting but I don’t like the look myself. Not convinced the price matches the bike compared to others for the same price.
Awesome looking bike.👍
Can we only order these in the UK? I would like to get one but here in virginia
Additive manufacturing. That’s 3D printing right?
Yes but in this case it's done by zapping metal powder with lasers
If one would break a tube, by a rock strike or something else. is the bike then done, or can you refit a new tube? other carbon bikes can be repaired, but is this different? can the bonding process be undone, and refitted with a new tube?
What are the geometry numbers? I'm 186cm with an inseam of 90cm and longer arms, looking at XL with 490mm reach. What is the difference between low and tall frame options? When will I be able to buy the Trail 150? Will you ship to Russia? Looking forward to answers but I'm not holding my hopes up that you actually answer.
Probably best to email them via their website, they've only done a limited run of 50 atm to my knowledge, but I'm sure more are in the works
Where can we order this bike?
Hardtail please!! 27.5+ / 29 I don't care, just be like Nike and Do It.
I just don't get this bike, I mean it's pretty rad, but how is something like that feasible for market? Is that not just going to be exorbitantly expensive? Unno bikes come to mind when I see this.
I really do like this bike, with the tube frame it looks really clean and seems like it can take some serious hits.
Just too bad you csnt really get them right off.
I dont mean to be so off topic but does any of you know of a tool to log back into an instagram account?
I stupidly lost my login password. I appreciate any tips you can give me
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@Angel Parker thanks for your reply. I found the site through google and im trying it out now.
Seems to take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
@Angel Parker it did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thanks so much you really help me out :D
Great interview. Real genuine respect for Gee. Love this format. More please.
Consdering the amount of R&D you invested into the titanium/carbon custom stuff, it is suprising there was not more time invested into the proper seat tube design. I.e. simple straight tube which allows seat post to go deeper... Otherwise, nice bike!
Its a very old technique, look/time was doing it 30 years ago. They fail eventually.
The aluminum and carbon and adhesive expand and contract at different rates. They will never outlast a strictly carbon or metal frame
@@janeblogs324 yep, 30 years ago look/time were using a Renishaw RenAM 500Q to 3D print titanium lugs with double wall, they were also using the exact same adhesive the Atherton's bikes use, as well as the same carbon fibres, resin and process to make the tubes. But all comes down to just one thing, aluminum and carbon and adhesive expands and contracts at different rates and engineering will never be able to overcome that! Poor Gee, if he only asked you before he started his enterprise! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Long overdue interview on Gee and the new bike. Absolutely fascinating. Its a real shame Gee didn't post much at the world cups understand they wanted to be low key. Would have loved to hear about team selection and why also. Thanks GMBN 👍💪
What an absolute dream. I love how it somehow looks simple and basic, but is so different technology-wise. I really hope they will be successful.
Great build! Some questions:
1. Frame weights (vs full CF competition) For some applications geo is probably more important, but this still seems like a big one here
2. Plans for an XC/light trail frame (linked to first question I guess)
3. What sort of Ti powder?
Alien nanotechnology...
#GMBNTech WHEN CAN I BUY ONE?!
Robot bikes
Literally just changed the name to Atherton and ended it there
Was a good move
15:43 that’s the x2
Really interesting video, nice to have some in depth detail about the bike and the process that goes into it.
Will these be available in the States? It looks fantastic and I like the idea of supporting the Athertons.
Atherton said they are working on distribution for the US, i have no idea who tho.. kinda hard to stock bikes when they are custom built per rider size.
@@stoneenforcer Thanks and I imagine they would have to have a website where you input your rider specification to have that bike built and then shipped to your home. I also imagine it would be expensive as a custom built bike.
@@Peanutdenver ive priced out a couple builds with them. Bout the same cost as yeti. 8-9k$
@@stoneenforcer That's cheaper than I would think for a custom built bike, but that's till a lot of coin. I do see quite a few bikes in that price range out when riding.
Awesome video! Athertones bikes do look sick💯 Cheers guys! 🍻
Love the athertons !! However they should call this the “ye’kno 150”
Once you notice it......
I know what my next bike is going to be...
They should start exporting this bike to the US. I'd definitely buy one, 'cause I'm also a fan of Atherton family.
Anyone else here disappointed they didn't talk about that DW6 suspension?
Great questions and review! Brilliant to see the bike and specs they ride for "trail". 🥰
P.S. Like the Q&A Doddy did with Gee ... I found the smacking of the chewing gum a bit off putting. 🤮
BASTIAN in melbourne paved the way with this style
i really don't see what is the advantage of a titanium joint, other than trying to be different.
I was admiring the polished “A” too. Great looking bike.
From the perspective of integration, this is a stupid design
Cut to the chase if I missed it. How much bro ?? Stock
S-I-C-K looking bike!! I REALLY like the lugged concept and the use of titanium. I may have missed it, does it have a dw-link suspension system?
Yes its a dave weagle suspension system
They gotta be mother light
Very expensive manufacturing for what benefit...other than Novel??? They're never going to be able to buy components in large enough volumes to complete with your big players, so always going to be tough to compete. Guess they're going for exclusivity...???
Nice bike lodi 👍👍
I want one.😍
Fantastic Video. Love the bike. The Trickstuff DIsc is a 180 HD. They have a UL (ultralight) disc but always 180 mm never 185
1:20
These bikes are serious business. But bigger is having 3 of the coolest motherlickas to ever grace MTB. They are elite, yet dont alienate anyone and you can easily buy into the spirit of the brand. Yeah, feels like Atherton is gonna be a huge, very influential Cycle brand. Good fucking luck to everyone involved.
When will it be available and how much will it cost?
it will be available in 2025 for 15000$
3:58 yes its very strong when new but the aluminum and carbon and adhesive expand and contract at different rates. It will take 20-30 years but the bonding adhesive let's go eventually.
They will never outlast a strictly carbon or metal frame, but if its light and strong the write off might be worth it
I'm thrilled and I really want to have a bike like this, would you swap it for a catastrophically constructed bike from another company? Then I would send you my Canyon Torque in exchange. 🥳
No way I've got a replica of this guys bike from 2009,, awesome video guys 👏👌
Great interview, but some questions: Why the suspension platform? What considerations did you have for anti-squat and anti-rise. What is the suspension curve on the bike? Do you run a custom shock tune to match the suspension curve? What kind of finishing do you do post additive manufacturing on the Ti parts? How many bearings on the frame - some of the pivots and pivot hardware looks quite small?
Awesome bike!! Story behind it with the family even better!! ❤🤘🤘
R&D at Robot Bikes, but looks to have been refined slightly. Great to see the Atherton's with their own brand but a big thank you to Ed & Co for the original concept. Success to you all.
The Atherton bikes look amazing ,right weapons 😎
Great Bikecheck Gee and Doddy
I know where I'll be going if I get to be able to do a dream build bike 👍
So to how guy. Gee Atherton to new custom factory bike in #GMBN of the epic #GMBNTech incredibl the ingeniri and good materials a futur of #Moutainbiking types of enjoys. Esprms the grand new 🤘😀
I love what you are doing. A .....HQ..family and sending it. Love your vids. Well done.
The 1st question I'd have asked is, why use that method to manufacture a frame? Seems like a gimmick.
If Atherton Bike had to choice a signature colour ( and no you can't have black) what would it be? and will be see frames in it?
Is it possible that maybe in the future we can swap parts on this bike? for example make the fork slacker and just replace the front part? I know that this would require special tools, but maybe that can be done at the factory?
Oh I see my fork on the wall in the background. The Rockshox Totem :D
Ive been talking to Atherton for months about buying their bike but ive yet to see a serious rider do a performance review on the bike. Waiting for rider feedback before i drop the coin. $8k usd
They might have the geometry dialed but they need to work on aesthetics it looks like it was made of schedule 80 pvc
As much as i like the bike, no, must cost fortune
The brakes alone £800. Maybe when I won a lotery
Gee - that's my perfect size and spec. How much for your personal bike?
I’d bet they’re repairable too with the bonded carbon tubes. If one does break, I would guess you could send it back and get the tube replaced. Cool idea!
This absolutely rocks. I can't wait to this bike get more press and expand its footprint. Good on you, Gee.
wonder how recyclable the carbon bits on this are compared to that new stuff used by Kellys ? Sick how it resembles a trad frame !
What I do not understand is why no prices? But looks amazing.
This or the dh bike will be my next bike for sure. Love how the bikes are sized and have invested what I could into the project
Surprised that he rides a "size Large" frame with 470 reach at being 74" tall!
Really Nice to see an Athlete like that launching is brand from scratch!!
You're supposed to tell viewers when paid promotion.
It's strange to look at because it looks too simple to be a downhill bike
Where's there webshop? i can only find merch
When is it coming to the USA? I am sure they will gain a significant following here. I'd buy one for sure, just because of the tech behind it!
It's already there (in the DH version). Andy Caine, Nike’s Vice President of footwear design has bike #4. There's an article on Atherton Bikes Homepage
@@BOLLOX64 One idiot with big$$$ that payed for an initial first run bike, doesn't mean it's readily available for the American market.
@@SubmarinersDive They're not exactly gonna set up a chain of dealerships @ la Trek. Basically worldwide shipping, mail order.
When will these bikes be available to us common folk ?
Aren't we going to talk about fee's chiseled face
looks horrible, seat really high and bars scarily low
do we know how much It will cost?!!! Thanks
Wow that bike is crazy! Sweet!
Can you test ride these at dyfi bike park?
Sure guys... $$$$$$... i would imagine i could get 4 good bikes for the cost of 1 Atherton... Beautiful bike...
I don’t think they are that bad unless you go ultra spec. Should be able to build one for the price of 2 average bikes imo.
Is there any 27.5 version
Question... If you do see that damage has been done, can it be repaired? Can the Ti lugs be reused? What if you extended that double overlap for strength and stiffness and used an adhesive that can be reheated and taken back apart? On that abuse tip. May I recommend a sub brand called Affey Bikes that uses the same reusable technology to make hard tail dirt jump and BMX frames.
The problem is the lug is 10x stiffer than the carbon. It create a massive stress riser.
The lugs are meant to be knife edged to flex at the transition, but these double lugs are still too stiff even if they had large knife edges
👍
Great bike.Bravo Gee.....
Test ride and review Doddy?
Price?
I love who Gee is, I love that a long time racer has taking a jump and risk to start a bike company, but as a salesman, he didn't sell it to us. From his view to a potential buyer , why IS it better? I'm sure its amazing, but he isn't putting that forward. Is the rear suspension curve linear or progressive? Can i change lengths here and there? roughly what sizes are there. Why do you spec a complete build as you do? how long do they take to make? use these opportunities to get your brand going. Not what you like as a rider. You need a salesperson to talk it up. Not talk about the components he likes i can get from anywhere. Love you Gee, but your a business developer now, not just a rider
so if you crack a tube, can you replace that single tube?
I dont think so
😁
I guess the Gee/Jee and Gif/Jif debates have been settled then?
His name is George David Atherton, Gee..Geeman...the vulcan etc.
I can see them putting a motor on this bike soon.
Haven’t you been paying attention? E-bikes are already a thing. There’s already an enduro series with e-bikes.
Always make me chuckle a bit when the term "bonded" is used. Sounds better than "glued together" doesn't it?
I still wouldn't buy a bike thats been glued together regardless of what they say. Prefer a good weld.
However it does look awesome.
@@Rab_Cee Glue is glue, no matter how much you rename it.
@@Rab_Cee Glueless lol
Also a bit rich calling me clueless when you can't spell "you're"
Oddly enough I’m more accepting of a glued carbon frame as repair options would be easier for me. Where I live carbon repair isn’t really a thing.
@@kyleslater5245 The thing that irritates me about this is the claims about the glue and how strong it is no matter what you rename it (expoxy, resin, bond) glue is glue! Yes they have been tested at rampage or world cup circuits. However, their bikes will be different to Joe publics and built specifically for them. Also these haven't been tested over years of ownership. Going through all british seasons, in and out of hot cars, hot/cold sheds etc.I refuse to believe that glue is stronger than two bits of metal welded together! Especially over a long period of time.
I wished he would have asked "why no water bottle on a trail bike"?
100% - great point.
I'd imagine adding lugs into that type of tube would compromise its strength. Easiest thing would be to have a clamp around design, although that would obscure the branding! I think there's enough of us that just run a back pack with no bottles that it wasn't worth adding anything as a standard option
They’ll add mounts if you ask
i like it! brave guess, is it a 29?
I was wondering the same thing 🤪
I think he talks about wheel size in the other GMBN video
only 27.5 riders ask this question, right 🤣?
26 is where it's at
Your channel is sick
Seems like a design that emits the need for Taiwanese sweatshops
Does he have something in his mouth? Is he chewing gum? Or it is just his mouthor/and jaw that makes it look that way. Anyway what ever it is; for me it made the whole thing un professional, and tbh made me loose confidence in the bike... Weird but that's the feel I had.
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