Making Bikes From Titanium & Carbon?! | How Are Atherton Bikes Made?
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- The Atherton's have spent their lives racing and developing mountain bikes and so we were excited to see they they have started their own MTB brand, all built in the UK! We have been following the Atherton Bike company journey from the very start and it's been amazing to see to their UK based head quarters to check out the full process of building one of their high end bike frames! Atherton use a combination of 3D Printed lugs in combination with high end carbon tubing which they say has many benefits, such as being able to produce quickly produce rapid prototyping, a lot of sizes and even custom geometry!
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Amazing detailed explanations, thanks! Good thing I used to watch Torchwood though so I could understand the language, lol!
👏🏻 One of the most interesting videos on the channel ever. A manufacturer that doesn't play on exaggerated NDAs. Very illustrative. 🚲 (And I've been in the pro additive manufacturing business for years.)
Fantastic looking niche brand. Love the low waste manufacturing process and individual size options. All of which would dictate cost which is fair, but still would place it well beyond the reach of most.
Do they make Trail, Enduro bikes?
Amazing riders with an amazing British [Welsh?] brand.
As an engineer that has worked on metal additive manufacturing applications, it is awesome to see this used in production, not just prototype applications. The design and material choices are brilliant. I'd love to see a 3rd party review of the ride.
Have mad respect for that whole family. All I have to say really, but love the grass roots riders in this country. Glad to see Gee's got well again, absolute madman.
Carbon, Ti, Athertons, and home-shoring of bicycle manufacturing! What’s not to like? This is the feel good story of the year with family cooperation, new jobs, great technology, and a beautiful product. Thanks Doddy and GMBNT.
The amount of personal attention put into every aspect of the process is amazing. I think it's totally worth the price to be able to ride one of these works of art.
At 9:45 into the video you can actually see Doddy’s mind being blown 😂😂😂. Excellent factory tour, super in depth. More of these please 👍👍👍
This is amazing! Thank you for the awesome video and a MASSIVE shoutout to the Atherton's not only for following their dreams but also for letting us see this process. I'm promising right now that if I ever win the lottery the first thing I'll be purchasing is one of their bikes. This craftmanship is mind-blowing.
This was incredibly interesting to watch. The engineering was superbly well tought out. It's not just because it's different, but because it's actually a very efficient concept from structural, waste and optimization standpoints. I am ATHERTONished!
One of the coolest things to see and makes me want to purchase one because of the amount of material they save. Really impressed!!!
This is superb. Only wish some other “mainstream” manufacturers would take this much care and attention in their design work. I wonder how many other manufacturers will go down this very sensitive and sensible route.
I'm pretty sure they would like to but, you know how much would that cost you? i mean you as consumer
If you have a need for this kind of attention and quality there are alot of manufacturers for you do choose from, outside of "mainstream".
There rest of the people still have limited money to spend on bikes :D
Athertons are doing a great job! Best wishes to all the crew and the brand!
Would love to ride one of these bikes. I think they look pretty and the build process man, out of this world!
I don’t ride MTB, but these bikes are definitely worth buying 🙂🙂
Even I want one
If they did road and gravel bikes using the same bespoke system, I’m sure they would have loads of customers.
If I had the money to buy a brand new bike for $7000 or so..I think I would feel a lot better to buy from these guys. You know every inch was taken care of and meticulously checked. Very cool.
Knowing what I do about the super and hyper car industry, scaling down those manufacturing processes for the bike industry makes so much sense. Glad to see Atherton pushing the envelope in this way-it’s clear that this is the beginning of the future for MTB.
TOTALLY IN LOVE WITH THE BRAND!!! LOTTO COME TO ME 😋
Finally a decent video!! It’s been sooo long since gmbn put out a video worth watching.
Seems like a great bike with really cool, enthusiastic people building it! Such a great time to be alive!
Incredible….passion, love, high tech, precision not to mention geometry design all in one go…!! What an innovation…!!
I was stoked on Robot bikes and the idea of DW6 when I first heard about it. When I heard that the Athertons were going that way, I was even more stoked. So much rad tech going into this juxtaposed against the retro look of the lugs. I'm a fan.
Congrats to the Atherton Team for such nice project 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 and thanks to the GMBN Tech team to provide such opportunity for us all over the World 🤙🏻🍀🚲
See ya, blue skies, be safe guys !!!
Why a shamrock? They're not Irish.
Mind blown. Super happy for those guys!! I wont be running one of their bikes soon. I believe for the right kind of riding they are absolutely on the money with their manufacturing process. I wish them great success.
Grew up with these guys through primary and some of secondary school, sadly lost touch when they moved away but I've followed their careers and it's so great to see where they've got to. Must head over to the factory one day to catch up and see the amazing build process. Would love to own one of these although I'm nowhere near good enough to justify buying one 🤣 amazing vision and engineering
these bikes are at the top of the MTB food chain boys, sick as fuck! love em'
Atherton Bikes have rapidly become the coolest bike brand for me. If I was younger I would love one of their downhill bikes , actually I would love one anyway just as wall art in my hall ! Everything about the bikes, the family and the park all ties together seamlessly, you can clearly see the way they all approached their competition riding years is now being transferred in the way their business's are being ran and marketed.
I understand there is an Ebike in the background and new Ebike trails coming up at Dyfi where no doubt a lot of the R&D is being done for them. The ultimate package to get the products right.
Looking forward to seeing GMBN Tech return for a follow up to actually ride the bikes , both DH and Trail, and hopefully show how the test guys approach their job when testing components.
Great show as always guys.
Really impressive, fantastic looking frames from the Athertons!
Thats a mega investment! I've been dreaming of doing stuff like this for years! Really impressed by their process!
I've done the Friday afternoon tour and the printing machine is something else
Awesome Ahterton bike intro, got shivers!
Unique and very clever way of producing these amazing bikes!!! Massive Respect to Atherton family!!! 💯💯
Great content Doddy 👌
This is basically Star Trek unbelievable to me. So freaking cool. Atherton, if you ever decide to make a 29er hardtail trail bike, my money will be in your account the day it's announced. So, so rad.
Can I borrow 100 dollars? Apparently you are filthy rich
@@Smegma_pirate Nope. Work for it.
hell yeah, lets hope atherton will make a hardtail
Definitely a different way of development. Nice. The process and R&D disclosed is something they really have considered before putting it in the video but its really worth it for us consumers.
XXLnt! next level lug&carbon tech! big thnx for letting us peek into the process🙏🏽
Wow. I had no idea this amount of work went into these bikes. Impressive!!
Absolutely incredible! Such limitless ingenuity is very impressive! Thanks for sharing it Doddy!
One of the best things on the tech channel ever. Excellent video and respect to Atherton bikes being so open about the process. I am still confused as to how the bike is actually put together at the end - there's no flex in anything so how is the triangle put together; I can see how each corner can be done but how is the triangle completed? :) Rather like Koenigsegg, this is definitely a lottery win purchase if only for the joy of the engineering that goes into it.
As someone who used to make jigs, they did a really nice job..making jigs is a pain in the ass..
Would love to try one! Incredible construction, hardly any waste!👍🏻 Will definitely head over for one of the open days!
Hoping that they release a longer travel single crown bike. I would totally get a 160-170mm
Watch this space ……
Awesome vid, very enjoyable. Damn smart way to make bikes. What a family. Wonder if they might adopt me.
(Love a good factory tour, thank you!!)
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Sickest Bikes on the Planet! Absolutely beautiful!
Saw one of these in Nelson, New Zealand, just the other day. Very interesting and thanks for showing us.
Love these videos that visit the factory to see how it's made 👍 cheers!
Thanks Doddy another great video from you and GCN.
Wow this was amazing, these bikes are a work of art.
They sure are! 👍
@@gmbntech don't think of a minute I didn't spot the markings on that jig of a 130 am 29er that's obviously not in production yet🧐
Just checked out their size calculator. I think it's spot on. At least for me. I ride a bike with 480 reach, they would suggest 470. I do feel my bike is a tiny bit too long.
@GMBNTech would be cool if you mentioned the history involving RobotBikeCo etc next time.
Athertons has really interesting system. With this aproach I can see they will be able to deliver custom made bikes in the future (not just size, but also geometry). No need of forms, just different lenghts of tubes and custom printed joints. Really inovative aproach
They already do custom geo, you can have anything you want
@@superchickensoup check the process - they make custom sizing, so there is possibility to change the lenght of tubes. But angles remain the same, so the titanium components are same (atm they have two verisons of those titanium components). What I had in my mind was even the geo change, which is not possible now (and not needed for majority of the riders here). Changing of angles means that you have to remodel all 3D printed parts as well.
Reminds me of my old Raleigh Dynatech from the very early 90s. Rode one for a while up on the Quantock hills, Somerset ( very early 90s) for a while. 26 inch wheels though and bogged down pretty easy...
Would love to see how light they could get a 120mm 29er down to.
Won't be as light as a full carbon frame.
@@philiphawkins4684 I'm not sure there, since they can control in more detail where they need the strength, they can actually make some parts thinner than an all carb is in places.
AWESOME!!! MIND BLOWN!! 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯
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Great video as always, saw these bikes in 2019 at the London Bike Show. Renishaw is such a great company, local to me and their AM machines are ground-breaking, but the outlay for one is staggering £££
Love what the Atherton's are doing
What an awesome bike/bikes
They look absolutely mint 🔥🤘
Epic. Lots of work going into a well thought out bike.
Saving up for a AM200. These bikes are epic!
Good job Doddy. They are making about the perfect MTB! I like the philosophy of a 'forever bike'.
Hey Bob, Thanks so much for the support! It's interesting to see where the industry is heading! 🙌
It will probably last a long time, but what about development of new geometry, isn't that a thing in DH? (I'm only riding trial and that has changed a lot in the last couple of years)
@@niclaskarlin I'm thinking if you were to pay $10k + for a bicycle, you'd keep it forever. I paid $3,600 for my Santa Cruz superlight back in 2001. I still have it today, slightly improved with a more current model, slightly longer fork.
Hi, first of all very excited, I was watching your channel few weeks ago. This content too much liked me, thank you so much and goid luck, I wish all the best-.-
The powder is the spice. Who controls the spice controls the universe! My Arakis, my bike!
Id still be worried about having my bike glued together but i gotta hand it to them for coming up with this ingenious manufacturing process..as a welder/fabricator i can appreciate their process
If you’re worried about structural adhesive, best not get on a modern airplane.
@@GHinWI or get a carbon bike!!
@@GHinWI or car for that matter!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.... it's a great feat of bicycle engineering but.... it's also gorgeous 💙💙💙
This is like the perfection of SCOTT and Tomac’s idea from long ago.
I’d love to see some of the physical testing they do on their components / assemblies plus some geek stuff on the computer modelling / optimisation
You just have to watch them ride 😀
@@chuckdungan true, but lab testing is very interesting
@@chrisruss8332 All our bikes are lab tested by EFBE in Germany - and they passed with absolute flying colours - they are strong!!!
@@AthertonRacing that would make a great video. Would any of it be possible to see?
This may not necessarily be stronger/lighter than all carbon frames, but the style points and uniqueness points are through the roof.
Allows much faster changes to be made to geo than a conventional moulded carbon frame
That is super cool, I almost regret already having a relatively new bike.
It's great that it exist and given how custom it is, I can only hope that people who buy them actually know what their needs are. This has been created by someone who truly care about functionality and that this is something you can purchase is a bit bonkers. I say that because it looks like a prototype bike you'd only see in a magazine somewhere.
Will be interesting to see where this brand will sail in the future.
Im buying one this summer i passed on buying a new one last summer to save for one they are simply gorgeous
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Im amazed, i will definetly consider buying a atherthon dowhill bike when the time comes
Bit like BASTION bikes Melbourne Australia
Very nice. Love to have one from each company 🤣
Hopefully they don't snap the same way under use 😬
fantastic upload, super interesting
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Amazing fabulous design next level! 👍
..awesome tech..I really like what the athertons are doin..
Great quality control
Looking at the frame it's a very conventional modern design, but they don't seem to have taken the construction method and reworked the design to make it fit to that method. Considering the strength of the printed titanium I think they could have changed those areas to reduce the complexity and take more use of the advantages of the material, especially on that bottom bracket on a good mid pivot design.
Kinda reminds me of the GT/ LTS
frame set ups in the late 90s early 2000s
Brilliant video. So interesting 👏
awesome bikeee! its my wishlist
I've wanted to see their process for a while now. I remember seeing a video on their channel ages ago where Rachel filmed the process, but then lost the footage.
Also worth watching the video on Dream Bike builds (Gee Milner): th-cam.com/video/qsuHi_XdH8Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HMXdZimX0wAGZrZr
Had been thinking for so long to buy the AM200. The bike looks amazing but the lack of reviews on this bike and being outside UK (for warranties) pulled me back.
Still need a DH rig for the next year so maybe this time I’m able to buy one.
We have some reviews in the coming months. So keep a look out. We can replace any parts globally under warranty. But as you can see we use a just in time manufacturing model and do not hold much stock. We print to order so if there was an issue we would replace the part within a maximum of 90 days. But I promise you it would be top priority.
@@williammaywhite thank you for your answer.
I will wait for the reviews; I’m so interested on this bike.
Nice work
Please, PLEEEEAAAASE, would you be kind enough to visit and make a topic about (Dan) Stanton bikes which is also situated in UK and who passionally make gorgeous bikes such as its ultimate version of the FS Switch9er full-suss rig featuring a titanium front triangle and a carbon (or alloy depending on customer's choice) rear system... which is.... I don't know, I've got no word for that, I'm french ;)
Dan Stanton and his crew deserve your attention!
Cheers! Santé! and thanks for your contents; I do appreciate them a lot.
Really best of both worlds. In then end this could be they way the whole industry might go. Making a carbon fiber bike is incredibly complicated. This takes out the complexity while maintaining the advantages. And when these parts are manufactured in an industrial process they will become much cheaper. For mass production you could even work with lost forms while doing the prototyping on these laser machines.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed! 🙌
Composites can handle complicated loads just as good, if not better than titanium. A lugged frame allows for faster prototyping and design tweaks verses carbon molds.
Amazing~!!! Full bike price is solid but frame kinda breaks the bank. Luv it though~!!!
Nice to see their focus on safety with the full face PAPR masks when dealing with titanium and carbon fiber dust.
I wonder if those glue up jigs adapt to all of the different sizes or if they have to have loads of jigs for all of the different sizes.
The jig plates only change per model, the jig incorporates sliding scale for reach and the block that support the tubes are adjustable
awesome, my next bike if I progress to enduro/DH
Cool. I wonder how the adhesive holds up over time... I get the lifetime warranty, but have concerns around that... and the carbon taking a beating from rocks or falls or otherwise
Fantastic is all I can say
WooHoo! tours on Fridays, that's when I get paid.... 😅
When will there be a ebike frame available with choice of motor manufacturers mounting and battery compartments????
Wow. Bloody wow.
Will they ever be able to change the shape of the tubes and lugs for different /new looks of the frame or will the frame shape always have the same tube look?
They could even make a 36" wheel DH bike for Conor over at GCN 🤗
Truly the C68 of MTB, british engineering at its best. Wonder what the tolerance between the lugs and carbon tubing are?
Just wow ! Juste a question, which software do they use for the 3D model ? Thanks
That's SolidWork
Is the best way yet to build bikes😎
Hopefully in a couple of years I'll be in a position to buy one.
Great stuff. Best of British :-)
My 1993 Specialized Epic Expert Road bike is made with round carbon tubing, glued with aluminum lugs. It's still rolling down the road, but I'm wondering why Specialized abandoned this process years ago?
Too labour intensive for mass production. Specialized are competing in a crowded market of brands, where the Atherton's are essentially offering a bespoke product.
Heavier than a moulded carbon frame. The moulds are expensive to make but Specialized will use economy of scale to make it financially viable . A smaller company like Atherton who sell less bikes would make each frame prohibitively expensive
the main question with any 3D printed thing is durability and strength...where is the extensive testing? especially fatigue testing? it's one thing to ride and see that nothing was wrong with it, but there is a reason why everybody is doing lab testing before hands