Different types and thicknesses of metal make a difference. I find that the cursive "e" makes for nice, consistent welds on thicker stock, but the "stitch" works better for thin stuff, and helps keep from burning holes in things.
@@VypaGaming I mean, yeah, if you have the heat to back it. In fact, if it's thick enough and the bevel is deep enough, that's about the only way you're gonna get good root penetration on both pieces of metal.
Here's an exercise that will help you correct your pattern. Get 2 paint stirring sticks and clamp them onto a piece of angle-iron; running parallel log-ways...about 3/8" from the web angle. Do it on the other leg of the angle, too. This will give you a "path" you have to stay inside of, for stick. You'll have to make the trough wider for MIG, to allow room for your nozzle. Do whatever pattern you feel comfortable with, INSIDE the confines of THAT wooden trough. Do it at least a dozen times dry runs, (no heat), then you'll be able to do one run, actually welding. Pay real attention to the way the wood FEELS to your wrist and commit it to memory. You'll be able to use the paint stick once, on each edge, before the edge is too fried to do its job. This will greatly increase the pettiness of your bead. You can also draw straight BORDER PATH lines with a ruler and White-Out correction fluid. It will glow while you're welding on it. (Its also really good for cutting metal with a torch or plasma. It glows white where you can see it thru your shield lense!) I stopped using SoapStone, years ago, when I tried the white out correction pen, to see if it would work. I've showed hundreds of iron workers and craftsmen that marker! I'd say it is used more as a metal marker, than it is for office work!
I'm an aluminum welder. I use the standard stitch type weld. I have to say, I really like your weld. I like the functionality of the draw and the overall look of the weld. Very nice sir. 👍
THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS SITE! THANK YOU FOR POSTING GREAT VIDEOS! Your cameraman is super good! You were talking about different patterns, and what people used. My Father taught me, at a ripe young age, how to weld with an oxy/actlyn torch, and a wire coat hanger, back before I was 8 years old. I was doing welded art and accompanying a local artist to an art flea market, selling my creations and paying for my gas and hardware, to my Dad. He kept me supplied and taught me lots of techniques. I was fluent by age 10. I didn't know there was any other way of welding until I got into junior high school. The shop teacher showed me that I wanted to make both pieces of metal, to flow together and have the filler rod to melt to cause a cascade of metal flow from one piece of metal to the other one, not so much as adding metal, but re-directing it, like dragging a path from a puddle of water on the ground, to where you want it to flow to. By introducing a wet surface, the water will not dam-up, but will nor readily follow that course. He said, welding with an electric welder is much the same as welding with the gas torch, but it was an electric arc that was melting the metal and that the direction that you pull the molten metal, needs to tie the metal from one piece to the other piece, just like the gas torch, and like the stick on the ground pulling the puddle of water! He showed me that a swirling pattern would beat BOTH sides and then coming back thru the puddle, would "drag that puddle" to the start of another puddle...an on and on, then back slightly on itself to end. That was the cursive "e". It was a number of years before MIG was even invented. Plasma, back then, was something that carried your blood thru your veins. I have kept that lesson in my head and wrist, for well over half a century, and it hasn't failed me yet! Few and far between welds have EVER failed, and that was tried with lots of tonnage. Sure, I use different patterns for cover passes, when one is needed, but the cursive "e" is my main one in stick and MIG. Torch, is more a drag and get out of the way before you allow the puddle to get too hot and either fall out or pop on you. You have to keep your P's and Q's about you, or you'll screw up! TIG, well...I understand it's just like welding with a torch, but it worry me! You have to keep your filler rod inside the phlegm of shielding gas, all the time and don't let the filler rod touch the Tungston tip, or it will light you up!!! And it has...EVERY TIME I've tried it...so I let other folks do TIG, and I do Torch, Stick, and Flux-Core MIG. I'm fairly close to 70, and I like to go "play" sometimes, but I enjoy watching young ideas. THANK YOU. I hope my story will help folks. I've always been intrigued with working steel. It was my life's hobby. I'm too shakey, now. By bead looks like a beginner's.
Good display of techniques, it's useful to have a few practiced for different situations. You'll notice the heat affected zone is drastically different between the different techniques you used. This looks like fairly thin stock, so what's most likely happening is simply overheating. The styles with longer backstrokes tend to generate more heat than a simple drag, and it can warp thin material. For thick stock, I think these techniques would really shine. On the other hand, you'll notice the less backstepping you do, or the quicker you are with it, you can control that HAZ. The quick back/forth stitch towards the end of the video has a very narrow colorband, which is awesome. It's well defined too, which means it's consistent, and that avoids warpage as well. Cool video!
just started a new job never welded a day in my life well im being trained the first week on day shift i aint doing bad so far from what my trainer has told me he has seen 10 times worse but I'm going to try to implement the cursive e technique today see how it goes for me every once in awhile i burn holes but I'm slowly getting better at not staying in one spot to long and moving once i see the weld pool fill up usually when i do burn a whole its not a big one and a few of them i have actually filled in by myself and ive only been welding for like 3 days now and im loving it
Your technique was taught to me by my boss and it was the first spot on dimes I’ve ever laid he showed me a lil diffrent so I guess it was his twist 2 loops drag 2 loops drag and it makes some fat dimes and fills out incredibly well
I usually do the “wave” or “crescent moon” technique, but the “triangle” and the cursive “e” looks really great. Have to push outside my comfort zone and try out some different styles. Great welds, keep up the great work Cub!
Ive been using a very similar technique to your last one for 15 years except i pull it rather than push and it comes out even more clean than that. Also i use that technique to make a small welder act a bit stronger by pre-heating the area and doing a whip finish over the top if that makes sense. Good job.
The triangle is my favorite personally, followed directly by the cursive E. Really mainly depends on working room, it’s easier to get the cursive E in a tight spot
So glad to hear u saying spatter is a sign of a dialed or un dialed machine and that patterns are acceptable with mig and that a weld only needs to be as big as the base material...my supervisor says only pattern that works for mig is a oscillation
Anyone else missing the good old days of Bob Moffat sharing his experience in real world welding? With real world applications and machines? Dont get me wrong mancub, love that you're getting new people into welding, that's awesome.
Very good with ur technique. It’s very obvious what ur doing. A lot of welders say there doing certain techniques buts it’s hard to see it. Not with u I can see ur wire moving. Good job
Wow Man Cub! Mighty good welds there! Hopefully I will be able to make welds that straight and pretty with enough practice Thank you for all of your efforts
Nice demo ,great video of the weld pool. You have a good steady hand which makes these patterns easy to follow. I do like the bead appearance of your own pattern, as I have not seen that method.
My welding instructor really threw me off in class. My dimes looked like your cursive E and mancub but he told that my dimes were too big and to make them smaller. I personally thought it looked very good,considering I've never welded in my life.
Very cool video. I’ve repaired equipment up to 120 years old on the farm and am always seeking to improve my welds. The stresses of ag work tears apart heavy equipment in a way that few other things will and it gets hard to keep up if you have to go back and do it twice!
🤣🤣 The straight weld would do me!! 🤣🤣 The rest were just showing off. 🤣🤣 Really liked your new invention, very nice results. Cheers, stay safe & thanks.
ManCub Welder I wouldn’t miss an episode from you guys mate. Great presentations, great info and entertaining to watch. Increases my frustration, but life’s like that. 😉 Thank you for keeping the dream alive. One day I’ll lay down a line that’d make you guys proud, but that’s a long way off, 😂😂😂
I personally make a “)” type of arch and keep my wire pointed directly at the edge of the puddle on every swoop. Turns out really nice, not quite stacking dimes but it’s still just as pretty in the end!
Gracias , con este video aprendi lo que no he aprendido en 6 años y e conseguido hacer los mejores cordones que he visto Thanks, with this video I learned what I have not learned in 6 years and I managed to make the best laces I have seen
Haha, new welder here, I’m not sure if this will help me or discourage me but I can’t wait to try the techniques. Hopefully one day my welds can consistently look 1/2 as good as yours !
All I can say is DAMN! If I could do anything even close to the cursive e I would be happy. I have a Hobart 210 , 110/220 gas welder. I have played with it a little but now I have to do something that really counts. I am going to attempt to weld on a thumb to a mini excavator. I would give my left N*T to have something like that. THANK YOU for the awesome video. I have looked at a ton of places for this demonstration!!!.
Noticed at the end, and from prior experience, WFS and voltage are turned down slightly from the push/pull technique when manipulating the weld pool with these other methods
Thanks for the video buddy. I liked the simple graphics and good camera work. I love welding and really am a newbie trying to make my welds look pretty. Unfortunately I have run across some really crappy real world fit up issues, especially big gaps, that you just can’t easily solve. I’ve been practicing Texas TIG in them gaps using my flux core welder. It seems to work just fine. But when I get a good fit up - or if I can control it and make a good fit up - I can lay some dimes with occasional nickels and quarters thrown in. Every time I weld I try to do it a little better. For the most part anything I have welded has stuck together the way it is supposed to!!! Haha. But I doubt I’d pass XRay. I certainly wouldn’t stake someone’s life on my welds. Yet!
I’d love to see you bansaw those welded coupons in half, and compare the fusions at the root. I like to do the cursive e, the stitch or the push. It depends how much heat I need to distribute. A lot of my mig welding is spot, because I’m a body man and do a lot of sheet metal. I really want to practice tig welding more though too for the pretty stuff. But I get alot of sugaring on the backside when I do thinner stuff like stainless.
make a box that you can pump argon into for the backside, it'll clean up that sugaring more. there are other thing too but i dont remember them off hand.
SOLAR FLUX works great!! I got a sample bag on ebay for $20. Just a little bit coated on the back side will do ya.. most people I saw using it used waay too much and it leaves build up. Mix it thin that's all you need. No sugaring inside, smooth. I use it on stainless exhaust builds, mig 309L no helium, I use 75/25 because it's not critical and they turn out fine, still no rust. I just finished a resto yesterday. Unibody, rocker panel, 1+ foot of pinch weld gone, and half the dogleg - both sides. All made up from sheet, complex panels with multiple pieces welded together to make it look formed.. its challenging but I'm getting good this is like my 5th job doing a lot of sheet metal.
Try pulling instead of pushing during the ‘man chub’ I’ve had really nice results doing a similar pattern in the past. Only pulling the puddle rather than pushing. Works best on heavier plate. Welder snobs will tell me it’s weak but I have yet to have a weld break on me.
I’ll usually use the different techniques based off of material thickness, bead length, and also if there is a gap. Most commonly i’ll use Cursive e for normal applications like most joints. Cub tooth for thicker material or if there is a decent gap between the material. Then i’ll use stitch for something like very thin walled square tubing (for this it also helps me to speed up a little) Just a few things i’ve noticed to help me out over time.
Your Mancub weld is what a mean ol bastard that tought me to weld called happy butterflies lol. If you didn't weld his way it got scrapped. To funny the things you remember sometimes
Starting out I tried the loop/lowercase "E" technique and I was focusing too much on the pattern without having basics like voltage and wire speed worked out yet, and it didn't work out well for me. I found the "stich" technique easier starting out to just keep the bead even right down the middle of the joint and figure out my voltage and wire speed settings. The last few times I've welded I've worked more on getting the in the habit of doing small loops again. It was cool seeing how much the pattern can change the final product, thanks for the video
Straight push/pull is the hardest to do; which shows the most skill. Everyone says it’s why they do circles to give the appearance of a straighter weld.
I would call your technique a "Stretched Cursive" - "B variation". lol . The "A variation" would be the elongation of the entire circle, like a race track shape.
my favorite is the sawtooth, but slowing my hand at the tips and moving quickly through the middle, it keeps the weld a bit wider and lower. I'll try that mancub next time I get the chance. Thanks!
If you move through the middle of the joint quickly you will not get any root penetration. You will only penetrate into the toes of the weld and your weld will fail.
Looks very similar to the old figure eights I started using towards the end of my welding job before the contract ended. God I miss welding. I'm going to a course starting next year so I can get back into it
Cool stuff! I gotta say mancub the puddle manipulation pattern you came up with produced a pretty nice looking bead! I’ll definitely have to give it a try👍🏼
ManCub, that was sweet man! Thanks. I do like the “cub” just don’t know that I could stay consistent enough but going Try it! I have been liking the cursive e with a push right to left for horizontal.
Stitch for leak tight first pass. Wobbly if im needing thicker weld. Weaving to dress up a root. Drag walking if im stitch/stagger welding long sheets.
If you want "dimes" learn to TIG or stick weld 6010/11 properly. No point in doing it with mig except for going slower and using more filler at best, and actually making your weld weaker at worst.
I prefer Miller's profile pulse settings on the newer welders. You would be extremely hard pressed to tell the difference between a tig weld and a mig weld done with profile pulse. It varies you wire feed speed at a percentage you choose and frequency you choose to give you that perfect stack of dimes and all you got to do is just run it straight and it does the rest without manipulating the gun. Also maintains the consistent penetration you tend to lack when you manipulate the weld.
mancub if any of my welds came out like yours I carry it around to show off to my friends. Nice work.
Different types and thicknesses of metal make a difference. I find that the cursive "e" makes for nice, consistent welds on thicker stock, but the "stitch" works better for thin stuff, and helps keep from burning holes in things.
Agreed. He didn’t do anything wrong with the motion but if he raised his heat a bit, that stitch weld would’ve come out a lot better looking
Wait so on thick beams and other structural steel can I use the cursive e technique and get enough penetration?
@@VypaGaming I mean, yeah, if you have the heat to back it. In fact, if it's thick enough and the bevel is deep enough, that's about the only way you're gonna get good root penetration on both pieces of metal.
My welds look like mixed change, nickles, dimes, and quarters.
Clayton Blanchard mine look like the wads of pocket lint mixed in with the change. Lol
Fake Name when the reply is better than the original comment
My welds are always nice and clean.
After the grinder ofc
Here's an exercise that will help you correct your pattern. Get 2 paint stirring sticks and clamp them onto a piece of angle-iron; running parallel log-ways...about 3/8" from the web angle. Do it on the other leg of the angle, too. This will give you a "path" you have to stay inside of, for stick. You'll have to make the trough wider for MIG, to allow room for your nozzle. Do whatever pattern you feel comfortable with, INSIDE the confines of THAT wooden trough. Do it at least a dozen times dry runs, (no heat), then you'll be able to do one run, actually welding. Pay real attention to the way the wood FEELS to your wrist and commit it to memory. You'll be able to use the paint stick once, on each edge, before the edge is too fried to do its job. This will greatly increase the pettiness of your bead. You can also draw straight BORDER PATH lines with a ruler and White-Out correction fluid. It will glow while you're welding on it. (Its also really good for cutting metal with a torch or plasma. It glows white where you can see it thru your shield lense!) I stopped using SoapStone, years ago, when I tried the white out correction pen, to see if it would work. I've showed hundreds of iron workers and craftsmen that marker! I'd say it is used more as a metal marker, than it is for office work!
At least it doesn't take ten welds to make a dollar.
I'm an aluminum welder. I use the standard stitch type weld. I have to say, I really like your weld. I like the functionality of the draw and the overall look of the weld. Very nice sir. 👍
THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS SITE! THANK YOU FOR POSTING GREAT VIDEOS! Your cameraman is super good!
You were talking about different patterns, and what people used. My Father taught me, at a ripe young age, how to weld with an oxy/actlyn torch, and a wire coat hanger, back before I was 8 years old. I was doing welded art and accompanying a local artist to an art flea market, selling my creations and paying for my gas and hardware, to my Dad. He kept me supplied and taught me lots of techniques. I was fluent by age 10.
I didn't know there was any other way of welding until I got into junior high school. The shop teacher showed me that I wanted to make both pieces of metal, to flow together and have the filler rod to melt to cause a cascade of metal flow from one piece of metal to the other one, not so much as adding metal, but re-directing it, like dragging a path from a puddle of water on the ground, to where you want it to flow to. By introducing a wet surface, the water will not dam-up, but will nor readily follow that course. He said, welding with an electric welder is much the same as welding with the gas torch, but it was an electric arc that was melting the metal and that the direction that you pull the molten metal, needs to tie the metal from one piece to the other piece, just like the gas torch, and like the stick on the ground pulling the puddle of water! He showed me that a swirling pattern would beat BOTH sides and then coming back thru the puddle, would "drag that puddle" to the start of another puddle...an on and on, then back slightly on itself to end. That was the cursive "e". It was a number of years before MIG was even invented. Plasma, back then, was something that carried your blood thru your veins. I have kept that lesson in my head and wrist, for well over half a century, and it hasn't failed me yet! Few and far between welds have EVER failed, and that was tried with lots of tonnage. Sure, I use different patterns for cover passes, when one is needed, but the cursive "e" is my main one in stick and MIG. Torch, is more a drag and get out of the way before you allow the puddle to get too hot and either fall out or pop on you. You have to keep your P's and Q's about you, or you'll screw up! TIG, well...I understand it's just like welding with a torch, but it worry me! You have to keep your filler rod inside the phlegm of shielding gas, all the time and don't let the filler rod touch the Tungston tip, or it will light you up!!! And it has...EVERY TIME I've tried it...so I let other folks do TIG, and I do Torch, Stick, and Flux-Core MIG. I'm fairly close to 70, and I like to go "play" sometimes, but I enjoy watching young ideas. THANK YOU. I hope my story will help folks. I've always been intrigued with working steel. It was my life's hobby. I'm too shakey, now. By bead looks like a beginner's.
I always like the smoothness of a straight push weld with mig.
Ditto
Awesome work Mancub. I have to say, "the mancub" is looking mighty nice.
This is one of the best demos of welding techniques. Definitely gonna save this one. Thank you!!
They look good. Test them. I’d be interested in seeing how much the penetration differed between them.
Cheers!
Whipple
Definitely intetesting!
Good to see trade of in looks to penetration :D
In 1/8" plate they should all penetrate.
Yeah this would be good, a little etching too.
Weld.com Ah, didn’t catch that they were 1/8”. Thought they were 1/4”. My mistake. Just for that I’ll sweep the shop floor twice. LOL
Cheers!
Whipple
@@Whipple1 We'll run them on 1/4" in the future and do some testing
Good display of techniques, it's useful to have a few practiced for different situations.
You'll notice the heat affected zone is drastically different between the different techniques you used. This looks like fairly thin stock, so what's most likely happening is simply overheating. The styles with longer backstrokes tend to generate more heat than a simple drag, and it can warp thin material. For thick stock, I think these techniques would really shine.
On the other hand, you'll notice the less backstepping you do, or the quicker you are with it, you can control that HAZ. The quick back/forth stitch towards the end of the video has a very narrow colorband, which is awesome. It's well defined too, which means it's consistent, and that avoids warpage as well.
Cool video!
just started a new job never welded a day in my life well im being trained the first week on day shift i aint doing bad so far from what my trainer has told me he has seen 10 times worse but I'm going to try to implement the cursive e technique today see how it goes for me every once in awhile i burn holes but I'm slowly getting better at not staying in one spot to long and moving once i see the weld pool fill up usually when i do burn a whole its not a big one and a few of them i have actually filled in by myself and ive only been welding for like 3 days now and im loving it
I used to always draw these patterns on my homework when I was a kid before I even knew what welding was.
I’ve never welded, but I tattooed for 15+ years and just bought my first welder. Your video has me all excite to run wire.
Your technique was taught to me by my boss and it was the first spot on dimes I’ve ever laid he showed me a lil diffrent so I guess it was his twist 2 loops drag 2 loops drag and it makes some fat dimes and fills out incredibly well
all i have to say is this makes me want to take notes and refrence at work when i get some free time for practice. love it
I usually do the “wave” or “crescent moon” technique, but the “triangle” and the cursive “e” looks really great. Have to push outside my comfort zone and try out some different styles. Great welds, keep up the great work Cub!
thanks I learned alot new at might I've been stick welding all my life just got a miller 210 mig welder
Ive been using a very similar technique to your last one for 15 years except i pull it rather than push and it comes out even more clean than that. Also i use that technique to make a small welder act a bit stronger by pre-heating the area and doing a whip finish over the top if that makes sense. Good job.
If I had to pick, aesthetically the triangle one looks the best but pretty large HAZ. Cursive E’s and oscillating back and forth are my go 2’s.
The triangle is my favorite personally, followed directly by the cursive E. Really mainly depends on working room, it’s easier to get the cursive E in a tight spot
So glad to hear u saying spatter is a sign of a dialed or un dialed machine and that patterns are acceptable with mig and that a weld only needs to be as big as the base material...my supervisor says only pattern that works for mig is a oscillation
Love the MANCUB I feel like you reset every time, I feel like you’re just able to flow better🇺🇸🇺🇸
The most beautiful is "The triangle" minute 3:47.
Look so difficult.
Good job, thanks for sharing.
Anyone else missing the good old days of Bob Moffat sharing his experience in real world welding? With real world applications and machines?
Dont get me wrong mancub, love that you're getting new people into welding, that's awesome.
Nice work mancub, shout out to video guy for those great shots, helps keeping me sane on my seventh week of lockdown
Stay safe and thanks for watching
the exact video i wanted to see. i wanted to see the patterns were, what they would look like, and how they were done. 10/10 vid🔥
Your technique is my favorite starting now. Thanks
Very good with ur technique. It’s very obvious what ur doing. A lot of welders say there doing certain techniques buts it’s hard to see it. Not with u I can see ur wire moving. Good job
Love the mancub. It looks to get the root deep. I’d love to see a bend test and etch.
Nice little exercise !!
Will give them a crack !!
Stay SAFE
Cheers from "Down Under" ..
You too brother
Great job 🔥
Wow Man Cub! Mighty good welds there! Hopefully I will be able to make welds that straight and pretty with enough practice
Thank you for all of your efforts
Nice demo ,great video of the weld pool. You have a good steady hand which makes these patterns easy to follow. I do like the bead appearance of your own pattern, as I have not seen that method.
This video was very helpful and made it very easy to understand. Thanks
Perhaps the tidiest migging I've seen yet! Greate video, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
My welding instructor really threw me off in class. My dimes looked like your cursive E and mancub but he told that my dimes were too big and to make them smaller. I personally thought it looked very good,considering I've never welded in my life.
Very cool video. I’ve repaired equipment up to 120 years old on the farm and am always seeking to improve my welds. The stresses of ag work tears apart heavy equipment in a way that few other things will and it gets hard to keep up if you have to go back and do it twice!
I been wanting to do this but school shut down. Thanks for you boys entertaining us
🤣🤣 The straight weld would do me!! 🤣🤣 The rest were just showing off. 🤣🤣
Really liked your new invention, very nice results.
Cheers, stay safe & thanks.
I was learning. It was fun. Thanks for watching Weld.com. stay healthy and safe
ManCub Welder I wouldn’t miss an episode from you guys mate. Great presentations, great info and entertaining to watch. Increases my frustration, but life’s like that. 😉
Thank you for keeping the dream alive. One day I’ll lay down a line that’d make you guys proud, but that’s a long way off, 😂😂😂
@@PilotMcbride thanks for watching 🙏
I am by no means a professional welder but I spent plenty time in a fab shop, and I tried to teach myself. The cursive e was just instinct to me.
I like using the triangle on vertical up!
Hey just bought my first welder Lincoln 210 traded my 160 Lincoln, thanks for the info I’m gonna keep trying to learn welding,
The cursive e and stitch are my go to welds.
I personally make a “)” type of arch and keep my wire pointed directly at the edge of the puddle on every swoop. Turns out really nice, not quite stacking dimes but it’s still just as pretty in the end!
Yes pushing D Snape works best for me too
Hats off to you Mancub!
Gracias , con este video aprendi lo que no he aprendido en 6 años y e conseguido hacer los mejores cordones que he visto
Thanks, with this video I learned what I have not learned in 6 years and I managed to make the best laces I have seen
tell us the story of how you got the nickname "man cub" .... and where is bob at ? we need to know these things
Dude, I miss bob. Hope hes doing good❤
Triangle&The cub absolutely nice technique👍
Haha, new welder here, I’m not sure if this will help me or discourage me but I can’t wait to try the techniques. Hopefully one day my welds can consistently look 1/2 as good as yours !
How are your welds after 3 months of practice?
All I can say is DAMN! If I could do anything even close to the cursive e I would be happy. I have a Hobart 210 , 110/220 gas welder. I have played with it a little but now I have to do something that really counts. I am going to attempt to weld on a thumb to a mini excavator. I would give my left N*T to have something like that. THANK YOU for the awesome video. I have looked at a ton of places for this demonstration!!!.
Noticed at the end, and from prior experience, WFS and voltage are turned down slightly from the push/pull technique when manipulating the weld pool with these other methods
He’s really proud of his cub nickname it’s awesome
It grew on me. What can I say.At first I hated it. Michael Smith thanks for watching Weld.com. Stay healthy and safe. Later 👍🤙
Thanks for the video buddy. I liked the simple graphics and good camera work. I love welding and really am a newbie trying to make my welds look pretty. Unfortunately I have run across some really crappy real world fit up issues, especially big gaps, that you just can’t easily solve. I’ve been practicing Texas TIG in them gaps using my flux core welder. It seems to work just fine. But when I get a good fit up - or if I can control it and make a good fit up - I can lay some dimes with occasional nickels and quarters thrown in. Every time I weld I try to do it a little better. For the most part anything I have welded has stuck together the way it is supposed to!!! Haha. But I doubt I’d pass XRay. I certainly wouldn’t stake someone’s life on my welds. Yet!
Cursive e club!!! Unless I am doing flux core then I tend to use the cub tooth. Pushing the weld back onto the set flux tends to cause problems.
just learning to weld, definitely going to try the triangle weld as well as work on my cursive "e". Thanks for the info
I’d love to see you bansaw those welded coupons in half, and compare the fusions at the root. I like to do the cursive e, the stitch or the push. It depends how much heat I need to distribute. A lot of my mig welding is spot, because I’m a body man and do a lot of sheet metal. I really want to practice tig welding more though too for the pretty stuff. But I get alot of sugaring on the backside when I do thinner stuff like stainless.
make a box that you can pump argon into for the backside, it'll clean up that sugaring more. there are other thing too but i dont remember them off hand.
SOLAR FLUX works great!! I got a sample bag on ebay for $20. Just a little bit coated on the back side will do ya.. most people I saw using it used waay too much and it leaves build up. Mix it thin that's all you need. No sugaring inside, smooth. I use it on stainless exhaust builds, mig 309L no helium, I use 75/25 because it's not critical and they turn out fine, still no rust.
I just finished a resto yesterday. Unibody, rocker panel, 1+ foot of pinch weld gone, and half the dogleg - both sides. All made up from sheet, complex panels with multiple pieces welded together to make it look formed.. its challenging but I'm getting good this is like my 5th job doing a lot of sheet metal.
Sugaring is from too much heat. Try turning your heat down and use thinner filler (.035)
My stitch technique stacks out like you mancub style i recon it's all about what is comfortable. Great video!
Man I've been stitching, and should be makin E's!! Those dimes are money!!
Try pulling instead of pushing during the ‘man chub’ I’ve had really nice results doing a similar pattern in the past. Only pulling the puddle rather than pushing. Works best on heavier plate. Welder snobs will tell me it’s weak but I have yet to have a weld break on me.
I’ll usually use the different techniques based off of material thickness, bead length, and also if there is a gap. Most commonly i’ll use Cursive e for normal applications like most joints. Cub tooth for thicker material or if there is a decent gap between the material. Then i’ll use stitch for something like very thin walled square tubing (for this it also helps me to speed up a little) Just a few things i’ve noticed to help me out over time.
Amazing tips and welding techniques!!! Cuz of that I managed to do professional joints and welds
Beautiful welds !!
I like the "sailboat" technique, but the "mancub" is so much better. i'll try it on my welds nextime. Thanks man
Your Mancub weld is what a mean ol bastard that tought me to weld called happy butterflies lol. If you didn't weld his way it got scrapped. To funny the things you remember sometimes
Hi bro, you are amazing, I like so much your techniques especially the movement of your hands while welding with accuracy and precision 👨🏭😇
Definitely gonna try the triangle weld Tommorow
Starting out I tried the loop/lowercase "E" technique and I was focusing too much on the pattern without having basics like voltage and wire speed worked out yet, and it didn't work out well for me. I found the "stich" technique easier starting out to just keep the bead even right down the middle of the joint and figure out my voltage and wire speed settings. The last few times I've welded I've worked more on getting the in the habit of doing small loops again. It was cool seeing how much the pattern can change the final product, thanks for the video
Straight push/pull is the hardest to do; which shows the most skill. Everyone says it’s why they do circles to give the appearance of a straighter weld.
Good video and techniques, nice job on the camera work.
Keep them coming bro I'm learning here❤️
Bro Ima get my welds to look like he’s! Just amazing work bro 👌🏻
Wow. I like the mancub, the sail boat and the cursive e
I use the cursive e regularly.
Those tricks have always done wonders for me.
Sometimes good looks are all the customer wants.
@@Welddotcom Exactly!
Best looking to me was the triangles. The one im most comfortable with myself is the cursive e's sometimes ill even do o's.
I use the same technique as you do. I call it the root whip. Little bit of a root pass. Then whip it around.
I would call your technique a "Stretched Cursive" - "B variation". lol . The "A variation" would be the elongation of the entire circle, like a race track shape.
my favorite is the sawtooth, but slowing my hand at the tips and moving quickly through the middle, it keeps the weld a bit wider and lower.
I'll try that mancub next time I get the chance. Thanks!
If you move through the middle of the joint quickly you will not get any root penetration. You will only penetrate into the toes of the weld and your weld will fail.
Thanks , very nice technique .
Saldature eccezionali, complimenti per l'ottima mano
I thought I was the only one who did the last technique lol good stuff man cub
dude thanks been struggling to make a decent weld using mig
Love the mancub
Looks very similar to the old figure eights I started using towards the end of my welding job before the contract ended. God I miss welding. I'm going to a course starting next year so I can get back into it
Cool stuff! I gotta say mancub the puddle manipulation pattern you came up with produced a pretty nice looking bead! I’ll definitely have to give it a try👍🏼
Post it up on IG and tag us
Thanks Keith. Appreciate the support. Take it Easy. Stay healthy and safe.
That mancub technique could help the E6013 achieve super strong welds or pass inspection.
thank you for providing such detailed info. helped a lot.
Nice work. Question, what's the best way to store a welding helmet.
T hanks, Mancub. I'll be trying these patterns soon.
Let us know which you like best
Thanks for sharing. Nice work from a pro. I will try all of them.
Cub tooth is my personal favorite, but it looks/works better pushing the puddle imo. If I have to drag the puddle then its the cursive e
Thanks for showing wire feed speed and voltage at the end of the video. But what thickness plate?
ManCub, that was sweet man! Thanks. I do like the “cub” just don’t know that I could stay consistent enough but going Try it! I have been liking the cursive e with a push right to left for horizontal.
Stitch for leak tight first pass. Wobbly if im needing thicker weld. Weaving to dress up a root. Drag walking if im stitch/stagger welding long sheets.
If you want "dimes" learn to TIG or stick weld 6010/11 properly. No point in doing it with mig except for going slower and using more filler at best, and actually making your weld weaker at worst.
Can't wait to try the Cub thanks for the vid👍👍
Very well done. I tend to go for the random blob technique.
I’m trying the cub tomorrow at work I’ll let you know all bout it
We do the stitch in our shop but we run at 580w/s and 28v. I'm thinking most of the rest would just blast holes all day
I prefer Miller's profile pulse settings on the newer welders. You would be extremely hard pressed to tell the difference between a tig weld and a mig weld done with profile pulse. It varies you wire feed speed at a percentage you choose and frequency you choose to give you that perfect stack of dimes and all you got to do is just run it straight and it does the rest without manipulating the gun. Also maintains the consistent penetration you tend to lack when you manipulate the weld.
Hey ManCub, I need change for a dollar, let me get 10 of them dimes 🤘🔥
Never heard that one before. I like it👍