The Complete Evolution of White Mages
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White Mages are one of THE quintessential job classes and they were introduced with the original game all the way back in 1987. Since then, White Mages have been a mainstay in the franchise, appearing in copious amounts of games in one shape or another, including Final Fantasy II, IV and IX. Many characters have also featured White Mage as a secondary focus, such as Aerith, Garnet and Yuna and the MMORPGs have fleshed White Mages out in a significant manner.
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My older sister, who doesn't even game, even loves White Mage. But she's biased because she's an actual doctor. She was first introduced to the concept of WHM way back when I was playing FF1 on NES in the early 90's. She never got into playing the game, but she really dug the WHM's sprite.
Many MANY moons later after we had both grown up, I offered to cover her Halloween costume one year. By then she was a nurse pursuing her doctorate and I got her a staff and WHM robe to wear to a Halloween party. I did my best to cobble together a Paladin costume so I could be her tank(this was 05, at the height of my FFXI addiction). It worked perfectly, as she was a nurse and I was cop. Healer and protector. She loved how I fit that together. 16 years later, and she still has that old robe in a jersey frame in her house, hung on the wall with the picture of us at that party.
I recently got my 15 yr old niece into FFXIV and she started as WHM. I imagine that choice was at least influenced by that display in her family room.
Lovely.
So awesome!
that's such an awesome story. White Mage irl basically I like that. Your sister must be a nice lady.
When you said tank I got ffxi flashbacks man. I had a 75 smn/rdm (later 99 smn/rdm) Mithra. The game is still alive! I need to re install it again just haven't gotten to doing it. So I still played until a year ago
That is a wonderful story
you forgot the most important white mage of all: the potion in FF15
and FFX-2 lol the gun yuan
No joke man ha! I fought the Adamantoise at level 67... it was a 3 hour fight, had 99 elixir, potion, high potions etc... legitimately used the very last healing item then had to somehow survive the next 7 minutes it took to kill it! Was my first try so I got extremely lucky lol
That game was such a disappointment for mage lovers
I always saw Iris as the White Mage of the game, she keeps you healthy when she’s with ya.
@@Seraph821 that game was a disappointment for everyone with a brain.
There is another detail about Yuna, her clothing resembles a miko attire, a kind of shamanic sacerdotise who are devoted to shintoist temples of Japan. And you know what colours they usually wear? Red and white, like white mages.
Reimu from Touhou fit right in with her iconic white rope with red stripes but instead of healing, she wack people ...
i was going to mention this as the possible reason white mage had red, because in ff1 white mages all appeared to be women, and the shrine maiden traditionally wore red and white clothes. this would also make sense with the dancer mix from revenent wings, as miko shamenism used ritual dances.
This is 100% Western fantasy meets eastern shamanism. In fact, there are many jrpgs where the healer is a miko outright.
Larsa’s infinite potions in FFXII was by far the best broken healer imo.
Too bad they changed it in zodiac age
@@ellismanu9105 he still gets Cure and Cura and the MP to use it.
Larsa and Balthier were the best characters in the entire game. And Larsa was great even in gameplay.
If we're talking FF12 then it's all about that reverse.
@@Walamonga1313 wasn’t Balthier supposed to be the main character in FF12? I heard that somewhere, but then they changed the story to revolve around Vaan and his weird abs.
An interesting fact about FFXIV's white mage is that their Limit Break 3 is called Pulse of Life, which is a tribute and easter egg to Aerith's Limit Break 3. The animation shows the white mage kneeling and praying to Aerith's weapon.
Scholar and White Mage both shared that LB3 in A Realm Reborn before they reworked Limit Breaks in Heavensward. In fact, Bard also used it back then.
Her name is aeris. And her weapon was an umbrella.
@@shemyaza8934 Yeah...error on translation. Its actually aerith.
@@shemyaza8934 Japanese doesn't have an "th" phonetic sound so they use "s" as an equivalent. It's been long confirmed to be Aerith.
The must have of any party worth its salt. You can't kick your enemies' asses if you have a dead party.
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Then make the rest of the party strong as hell with adeque healing items.
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@@UnifiedEntity who would win? Magic or capitalism?
Exactly
They heal, they protecc, they summon, and they wreck. Best class.
Well, after a moment I was being a PLD in ff14. I witnessed a WHM just charge ahead and started to tank and kill shit before I got there to hold aggro =.=
I'm a healer, but...
@@Qardo OP AoE stun ftw.
@@foxdavion6865 I always love a good boot to the face...or grone...or Shin....or big toe if I cannot reach the ones above. Or if PLD. A nice Shield to said areas. In the same order.
And they decimate with Holy
Just want to point out that in Tactics Advance 1 and 2 Bangaas also had a cleric type battle mage class called Bishop which while only able to use mid tier white and green magic was the only class that had access to the Holy offensive spell
You missed a pretty key detail about Aerith, in that she had the holy materia!
K….
I remember playing the FF1 GBA remake and naming the party after me and my friends. One of them wasn't flattered that she was designated the white mage.
Was she the only girl in your friend group? That might have been why
@@danichani33 Funnily enough, no. The other girl became an absolute unit of a monk.
@@torgan I imagine she'd have been far more upset with the receding hairline once she became a master then ;)
I was surprised FF8 was skipped, since one Selphie's LB is an all party heal. Although he included instances where WHM is sometimes combined with other jobs like SMM, it would have been good to see how other healing jobs skills are combined also such as Scholar, Sage, Cleric and Astroloian.
I like how Final Fantasy XIV made Aero, Water, and Stone tied to White Mage instead of Black Mage. Usually Black Mages only get Fire, Blizzard, and Thunder anyway, so it's not a bad idea to give the healer job the ability to contribute to the damage as well when they have spare MP.
Would also make sense for non-offense characters to have some means of damage for self defence as well.
It would be cool if they specialized in magic that does damage based on HP values, like the Balance spells that do Max HP - current HP = damage
Aero was part of white magic on ff3 as well
"Contribute to the damage when they have spare MP"
More like contribute to the damage when the party has spare HP lol
stone and aero are later upgraded to more holy looking spells of glare and dia and water is removed and replaced with fluid aura
That’s why I absolutely loved Yuna. She had Guardians but if they were struggling she’d jump in, summon an Aeon and DESTROY her enemies! 😂🥰❤️
Man, seeing those AD&D tables really takes me back.
I’m still about 2nd Ed ADnD.
Man aint nothing like that clutch raise for the win, white mage best boi
So glad to have been able to help create this massive video :) Great work Darryl, Lauren, and Chris: we did it!!
In case you're interested in a specific game/back here watching again ;), here's some timestamps for everyone:
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You mean, beside from touching on FFVIII at all? lol...
I'd love to see Monk covered next. I imagine that's undergone a lot of evolution!
There's the White Monk that comes to mind, but yeah, the idea could be a decent investigation.
Tifa ...!!
FFVIII's Selphie crying in the corner, "I kind of white mage too, you know..."
More of a Sage really.
@@pn2294 Her Limit Breaks were probably the most White Mage, as I recall, but it'd be a nod at most.
I would like to see a video about the Time Mages. I find them very interesting. Their focus on Support and damage Is rather unique
Go for the Monk next.
23:15 - Dont forget, when using benediction you are essentially sacrificing yourself for the rest of the party. The enmity gained from using Benediction would dwarf any/all enmity gained by the other party members, which basically just means when a WHM would use benediction the mob would target them and not stop attacking them until the WHM was dead. Usually the WHM would use it when its a guarantee they cant kill the mob, and they would just try their hardest to stay alive while the rest of the party ran away to avoid dying.
It just goes back to your original point of the white mage sacrificing themselves in previous games. Just thought it was interesting! :)
It should also be noted that in XI, resurrection magic (especially Reraise) was exclusive to them and they brought back and expanded upon FF1's defensive spells, with the prefix "bar" - they generally granted resistance to various status ailments and elements.
Love 11, by far the most comprehensive iteration of the Job system to date.
agree that XI does an amazing job of really showing what each job has to offer, but resurrection magic isn't exclusive to white mage. red mage, and scholar also have access to raise 1, summoner gets access to raise 2 and reraise 2 through caitsith as well as a reraise 3 type effect through caitsith's astral flow. scholar also gets raise 2 and 3 and reraise 2 and 3, but only white mage gets arise. white mage is also the only mage to gain access to cure 5 and 6 as well as fullcure later on. also white mages do have access to maces and hammers which wasn't noted in the video
I love FFXI for its job system. It may not be the most balanced, but every job plays so differently.
@@timepassesbye Paladin also had access to raise.
@@kroznick1011 you are correct, i often forget this as you don't regularly see a pld use it
I really wanted to get into XI precisely because of how well the FF jobs were represented, but unfortunately I found the game itself remarkably unenjoyable.
I would say Hope is the FF13 equivalent of a White Mage based on his Full ATB skill “Last Resort” resembling FF10’s Holy spell.
His Eidolon is even Alexander, who's traditionally associated with the Holy element, and was associated with a White Mage in its last appearance in FFIX.
I never used Hope when you get access to that last chunk so I never saw that move. Gonna have to look it up. All I remember is Vanille had Death, Lightning had Army of One and Fang had Highwind
Hope also did high damage too though. He was kind of an omni mage with his main drawback being low hp and missing debuffs. Vanille however had low offense but good heals like a traditional white mage, except for the death part.
@@Blaisem Vanille mostly focused on debuffs and ailments, so she didn’t really need straight up damage
@@pn2294 right, and she could also heal. That's what makes her more white mage than Hope. Hope could actually deal damage. That's not a white mage.
Sweet, this style of video is one of my favorites! I’m glad to see you’re still doing them while working on the documentary
I appreciate that despite the type of character Jack is, he still gets to use White Mage, although with the added benefit of this burly man beating enemies over the head with the club
You were very wrong about FFXI. White Mage has access to all the best healing abilities only they can use. Full Cure, Reraise IV, Cura III, Curaga V, Cure VI, Protectra V, Shellra V, Sacrifice, Esuna....ect.
Also Mind increases enfeebling potency of their spells.
scholar does gain access to quite a few of those through their stratagems. that can make pretty much any enhancing spell aoe, haste excluded, their shell and protect are included and they are at just a slightly lower potency to white mages. paladin actually gets a stronger protect now, and gets access to aoe healing. scholar gets esuna as well as most of the NA spell line. but yes, i agree there wasn't the best representation of XI in this video, but it wasn't a bad start
Fun fact! Devout and Seer have the same name in Japanese, alongside their similar designs, so I think it's fair to say they're the same class. Also, I think talking about Record Keeper white mages only in the generic units and not mentioning at least Elarra is an oversight. She brought pink back!
Loved the depth of information in this video! Can't wait for videos on Summoners and Black Knights. Also the Complete History of Moogles would be interesting.
Awesome and beautiful video folks. Thanks so much for this trip down memory lane. As someone who's been playing FF since the original NES title, this made me giddy and tear up all the same.
WHM, the other Main Mage of the series. I'm looking forward to this, so I'll be back at the end.
I love this video. I always wanted something like this. Thank you very much.
Would love to hear about knights, its deviations and archetypes throughout the franchise or dragoons together with summoners would be a great discussion as well, a less tackled and under appreciated jobs.
This is my favorite serie, seeing the evolution on the many jobs is so gratifying and entertaining! Also I had no idea just how much XIV had borrowed from XI, truly fascinating
Good work! I can't wait for the evolution of the sage video next. Considering the huge upgrade for the sage job is coming soon in XIV.
White Mage ( together with Black Mage ) it's ALWAYS a must for me in Final Fantasy games with Job system, i can change all the other jobs comp but i never change both of them especially the White Mage.
For Final Fantasy XIV White Mages are awesome as well, to me the best healer for Dungeons, Learn and Prog groups, also Afflatus Misery it's so satisfy to cast 🌷🌷🌷
Ever since you started this series I have been waiting for you to do the White Mage video. White Mages are my favorite. I love the heals and support abilities and Holy is always crazy powerful.
The one thing I don't like about White Mages is their tendency (especially in earlier games) to get the "heroic death" treatment.
LOVE seeing the Evolution of your channel and videos!
Aw your music use is lovely especially tied to the topic at hand! My second favorite mage type but really close! I adore their design types and motifs.
I hope they do more videos like this, I'd really like to see a video dedicated to Scholar, which is arguably the second primary "healer" in the franchise.
Awesome! I've been waiting on white mages since your video on the evolution of black mages video.
Thanks Team FFU I love you guys bringing together and sharing the lore of Final Fantasy to the Fans of this beautiful series
I love these videos! They're great for long drives too. I know there might not be much substance, but please I would love a ninja / rogue video that's mostly my favorite
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG.bless you😘
Mann, why do i suddenly feel emotional at the close of this video? @_@
Great video :D white mages were always high up my favorite classes list
Ignis had a "healing thing" in regroup lol
These videos are so amazing, great job and thank you 👍
I love how you decided to show the 4WhM vs Chaos fight from FF1 at the beginning, just when I started thinking of it.
Been bingeing your vids lately! Love your stuff mate!
You guys even found a way to include the Bayeux Tapestry. Love the granular style!
Amazing and comprehensive! You really delved into every nook and cranny.
I will say, if you happen to read this, I'm a little sad that Pulse of Life was shared between Aerith and FFXIV's white mage lb3. The name and animation are almost 1 for 1.
One of my favorite classes. Thank you. Hope to see Dancer and Summoner, my other faves, soon.
Such an interesting and fun video to watch! Great underrated topic and good research! Love it!
For FFVI, I would argue, even if not a permanent party member, Banon can be considered a white mage due to having the pray command.
Although it is unknown how he does it since magic isn't as widespread early in the game both gameplay and story-wise.
by far the most underrated class.
Which is weird because of how useful it is.
By who? WHM has always been top tier/beloved.
@@Malacite i just mean in terms of classes that are lauded as "cool" or "awesome." it's not that deep, chill ffs
@@tiagocosmos fair enough lol.
Healers in general don't get the respect they deserve outside of MOBA and dedicated MMO players.
There are so many meme about the white mage being indispensable. It's true but white mages can't win by themselves the other members deal out damage. If damage output is high enough then healing isn't needed.
Great video as always. I'd love to see thieves being explored soon.
19:05 That wasn’t a flashback, though. It’s a scene from the beginning of the game.
It wasn't mentioned, but Aerith is also the one who used the "Holy" spell in FF7. Although Sephiroth may not be seen as a perfect black mage parallel with Meteor, I feel like this was a cool connection to older white mages.
Other than the Selphie (Full Cure & Wall as limit breaks, curing a Moomba during the story), Hope (Full ATB Skill screams "Holy", especially of the FFX variety + Alexander as eidolon), and Ovelia (who basically is Alma save for missing the Chant ability) erasure, great video on a job class close to my heart!
Idea for a future video: I would argue it's worthwhile to look at villain examples as well. It was interesting to me how Yunalesca from FFX weaponizes healing spells against you by turning you into Zombies first.
I was also thinking about hope when listening to this list
Always loved supporting others as WHM in both FFXI & FFXIV. Also, Yuna is best girl.
I would love to see an evolution of the warrior/swordsmen class
Id go less with Aerith made a noble sacrifice and more she was assassinated
Love the video, didn’t think there be so much on white mage considering it’s so basic compared to most of the mages, btw could you guys maybe do one of these on the time mage or even the mysic knights?
I daresay the White Mage has a rather iconic appearance, even being referenced in one of Robin's outfits even before Cloud joined the roster!
Great video! I hope you cover the Dancer job sometime!
You can't just have Celes' theme playing when you're talking about Palom & Porom. It's too early to being cutting onions man.
I just got on the video, let's hope to see how my favorite class evolved
I’ve been waiting two years for this video
I would LOVE it if you did a video on the evolution of mini-games
These videos are especially great for late-night. (I swear my neighbors were about to call the cops if I watched another Spiffing Brit video) lol 😅
Would love to see an evolution video on Dark Knight
I would love to see your take on the paladin class! Keep up the great work it's up to great work
He has a Video Titled: Evolution of Paladins...👍
Would like to see Dark Knight covered next.
Never thought i'd see a fellow dark knight fan here
@@balsamon69 I just really like how the FFXIV Job story for DRK subverts the “brooding, edgy” stereotype the Job has generally been associated with.
@@TheAzureGuardian I don't think XIV's version of DRK necessarily subverts that. There's still that brooding and edgy quality to it, especially on Sidurgu's character. The story is just handled in a more tactful and introspective manner, so it's more like... it adds some depth to the "brooding" rather than outright change it.
@@JJMomoida True, Fray and Sidurgu are pretty much all about seeking the Darkness for more power. But your character is like “we can find another way” by rejecting what Fray is trying to get you to do and helps Sidurgu find another path to power; protecting others (name Rielle). Then the 60 to 70 quest line is about confronting their past (Sidurgu getting to see his mentor one last time) and then your character accepting that Fray is a part of them due to the DRK Soul Crystal originally being theirs.
*Sees Aerith get killed*
_IT STILL HURTS_
may your preferred and chosen deity bless your magnanimous and generous hearts for the A+ content
I like that mobile games were included in this video but I'm surprised (and a little bit disappointed) Fina was not mentioned as she is basically the white mage representative for Brave Exvius AND a main character. Also Ayaka is from Brave Exvius, not War of the Visions.
in 14, Blue Mage actually gets a couple of white mage spells, like White Wind which just heals all nearby party members by however much health the caster had
White Mage is great! I love healers.
As for jobs I'd like to see in your future videos, I think the bard would be really interesting.
There the backbone of most rpgs is why people use them in there final partys
That was not a flashback with garnet it's the present when you finally see her up close for the first time. She was trying to disguise herself in surprised with all your ff knowledge that you forgot that.
I'm rewatching all the evolution class video, and i'd love to see an evolution of the ranged character in Final fantasy. It's a fringe archetype in final fantasy, but there are a lot of notable characters who fit the mold, with Vincent, Irvine, Yuffie, Wakka as well as some of the older OG jobs.
Wooo! Excited for this video!
I saw this an immediately froze like hey I haven't seen this 🤣 then I realized it's new cause I've watched them all lol
A little piece of trivia for White Mages in FFXIV, prior to the Stormblood expansion, white mages had an ability called cleric stance that would switch their mind stat with their intelligence stat so they could do more damage with their damaging spells. When Stormblood launched however, all spells that were casted by the healers would scale off of mind, regardless for what its purpose was.
Please could you do a video looking at the espers in Final Fantasy XII. I would love to hear more about them!
Great video! I enjoyed all the love for FFXI WHM!
Great video as always. I listen to your video to sleep 😂
I’d like to see the Paladin class covered next
Half of that video will be FFT and FF4:TaY. :D
Small quibble. In the FF11 section you say that low intelligence and high mind as a stat controlling white magic hasn't been seen since FF3. The names are different, but in FF4 Wisdom and Will are two different stats, Wis controlling black magic and Will controlling white.
Currently playing a game that doesn’t have a job system, but I have it setup so I basically have two tanks, a white healing mage, a black damage mage, and two supports. Aerith is my favorite white mage of all the FF games I have played.
White mages are the real mvps.
I play FFD20 a TTRPG and I am currently playing a white mage Lamia named Ellanya, she’s the only healer in the group and everyone loves her. For all the dps fighters she is the heaviest hitter though her vows prevent her from killing and living creature( makes for interesting roll play) she a typical healer very kind and compassionate even towards enemies with a thick accent for aesthetic. Definitely my most favorite character I’ve played
FINALLY!
Please, do Paladin next!
FF14's lore also describes the White Mage garb as being sacred vestments given to those who mastered white magic: the white symbolizing purity while the red traditional red trim represents the blood coursing through all living things.
As a XIV player, it’s fascinating to see how XI had it spells set up, like Benediction as a AOE or the Afflautus being like passives(?). Can’t wait to see more of these!
xi was unusual, it was a everquest 1 type game, so much less clicky. i played a monk, and could only use shoulder charge every few fights. now this was at the start and it likely made qol changes later, but at start it was very auto attack oriented, and wms could really not solo very much at all.
Nice breakdown for most of it. You missed FF15. Lunafreya seemed to be based on a white mage archetype.
For FF8 I always assumed Rinoa was based on a white mage as well, though more battle focused.
I loved how in Bravely Default they made the White Mage Asterisk Holder a sadist
For FF Tactics A2. The Seer does not replace the White Mage. The Seer only had Cura, Raise, Esuna. WM has Curaga, Arise and Refresh as upgrades. Seers did have the -ra level black magick and the all important spell, Magick Frenzy (Cast a spell and do a basic attack on all targets hit with the spell) and Recharge (gain a net of 20MP). Personally never used a Seer main but I did do a 2 battle mages. One was mainly physical, equipping two swords. The other mained as an illusionist, whose spells hit all enemy targets, then had two rods equipped as well.
I have to admit I very much like the Cat Eared Hood used by many White Magic classes, both White Mages, and improved/upgraded versions (Devout, Seer, etc.) possibly one of the best (or at least cutest) accessories in all of Final Fantasy.
In fact I believe it does occasionally appear as a piece of Equipment in some of the games, often with effects that make it particularly good on White Mages (at least, for the time you get it.)
I feel like you missed a chance to talk about the clearest "Medics/ White Mage" of XIII/ XIII-2 Being Hope & Noel.
Though Noel doesn't fit the White Mage look; narratively it works.
Besides that, fantastic video!
As a small correction, lilies only appeared in Shadowbringers, you just get access to it in Stormblood levels due to leveling needs
My personal favorite iteration of the white mage, is the cameo in Mario Sports Mix.
What can I say? Its white mage in the Mario princess style and she hot as hecc. (she’s also op in that game)
For the next job/class video, how about a combined look at Thief/Rogue and Ninja?