The Titans, Illidan & Sargeras Will FINALLY Return to Warcraft
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Was last saw the Titan's zoom into the cosmos along with Sargeras and Illidan back in 2017. That was 6 years ago. Now, we're almost ready for their return.
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I need a cinematic where we see a star falling to azeroth and it's illidan using the hunt
And he's still being chased by Kael's Pyroblast
Haha, this would be great! Makes me think of when he opened the portal from Azeroth to Argus and Khadgar gives him that "Bro..." look. We need Khadgar to be the one to discover the falling star. On a serious note, it kinda invokes Lucifer imagery too which could be cool. Illidan has been trapped with Sargeras and the Titans all this time... can we trust him?
I actually liked the idea of Sargeras being "re-ordered" forcefully by his Order Pantheon brethren. With Iridikron siding with Void and Denathrius escaped with his Nathrezim back in SL possibly taking over the Legion forces (Chaos). I also remember that Primus conspiracy back in 9.2 where people theorize he is actually the true Jailor behind the scene and taking control of the Death forces as we have helped to "fix" Shadowlands. Looks like an all out Cosmic War is on the brink.
Id love the primus conspiracy to be true. The whole shadowlands make then 100x more sence
There is no way Illidan will turn into just a guard for Sargeras. He would see way too much of Maiew in himself to stomach that.
Oh he definitely would,
The dude was already terrified of Kil’Jaeden.
He doesn’t hate Maiev at all. He nothings her.
I heard Tyrande is now single.
THIS
@@Telrom She's playing Baldur's Gate III to cope.
Should hope not. I recall the two having sexual tension. I do not want to see the outcome of a Sargeras x Illidan ship.
I begin to think Iridikron wont be final boss of dragonflight and we will probably see him in the next expansion. Like they did with Gul'dan.
pls no
Who cares about that guy. He ain't even a wow veteran. He's a filthy causal who was made in dragonflight.
I never thought Sargeras stopped being an agent of order. He was just trying to wipe all live from the universe so as it would stay ordered in this twisted version, and the demons were just a tool.
Anyone else feels like the wow lore is not the same anymore after the Jailer disaster?
Absolutely. The lore feels... somehow much worse. At least in Legion and BFA it felt relevant... DF so far just leaves me with the overall feeling of "why should I care?"
Well, the lead they put in charge did say he doesn't know the previous lore and don't care about it so not really surprising it has gone to crapper real quick.
For me that broke the illusion. We found out that there never was any grand plan for progressing WoW’s story. They were making it up exp by exp, with many ass pulls. It left me unable to get invested in the story/lore anymore because there’s no weight to anything when it may lead to nothing or be suddenly changed at any point later.
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Was last saw the Titan's zoom into the cosmos along with Sargeras and Illidan back in 2017. That was 6 years ago. Now, we're almost ready for their return.
I know trying to make sense of Danuser's writing is an exercise in futility, but I'm going to try anyway... If Chomie really did break the "one true timeline" by saving Nozdormu, wouldn't Nozdormu immediately sense that, and be horrified/confront her about it? Not be thankful for it like he was?
I don't know. I feel like Blizzard painted themselves in a corner back in the End Times dungeon, and Danuser got around it by just walking on the wet paint.
Great video. I don't play WoW but I do enjoy Bell's lore related videos.
I’ve seen these type of comment before
I am hoping that the story come round like so:
That Sargeras is released because the Void is getting out of control. The realisation that the Burning Legion represents more than just a force of destruction, it so the most potent weapon against the void.
The day that Illidan back , i will back to play again
More story binge! Lets go! Keep em coming! Thank you so much
Your so talented at your job! Keep up the great work Bellular
Considering the Force of Order and all beings connected to it have the mindset of robots, it's not that surprising the Titans don't really care for the planet and it's inhabitants, but only care for the role it'll serve in the grand machine.
I wonder if Illidan will listen to Sargeras, being trapped, chained to a Pantheon throne for years, he would probably try talking to Illidan to persuade him. Being shown the Iceberg instead of just the tip Sargeras may get Illidan to change sides after being shown the entire story of the cosmos instead of a sliver. I think there is way more going on than what we know based on the singular fact Sargeras was the Pantheons champion of Justice. This reminds me of many different movies where there is a hero who is the systems champion, doing everything right, the best of the best, until he finds out he is on the wrong side, then the hero burns everything down just like in Equillibrium with Christian Bale. Sargeras may be right, and the Pantheon my be the deceivers, and we may end up having a very Cautious pact with Sargeras and Illidan spear heading a war with the pantheon.
my favorite part is when iridikron says “its iridikron time” and starts kronning all over the titans
Can this meme fucking die? It was NEVER funny.
same
Long have we sought entry into this realm! To think we have a mortal to thank for giving us our foothold. Your service will be remembered! (at the Seat of the Pantheon). - Xal'atath, Blade of the Black Empire
Why arent we going back in time and stipping Iridikron from meeting up with the infinite flight? Since altering the past is now on the table.
Because they are aware how truly they messed up and are hoping ppl are just dumb enough to be wowed at their idiotic made up story and not state the obvious now that they have opened the pandoras box.
This is what happens when you make an incompetent lead who proudly says he has no idea about previously established lore and doesn't care about it.
I need an Illidan book sequel where it centers around him and sargeras in prison both reflecting. Every other chapter is from the others perspective
Ooo, this gave me an idea, what if Galakron actually ate the fifth old God, and as a result merged with him, almost like the primal Zerg
What if we free Sargaras and Illidan from the prison. What if, "what sword" is there for Sargaras to reclaim and battle the void or even to Titans.
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I can see an expansion where we fight the void with the titans and in the end, we're defeated...and Sargeras and Illidan show up and lay a massive beat down on everybody collectively. Sargeras was always the most powerful of them all. I can totally see him coming in and just curb stomping both groups and kicking them out and saving Azeroth.
Eyes are the windows into the soul
I feel like Vyranoth want a bit much, when she says "we are trying to break the Titan's iron grip on this world", girl, this world IS a Titan. They have more claim to it than you.
I don't feel like you get enough credit, but your lead-ins to your sponsors are truly top notch.
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They are obnoxious
Yup, and it let's me know it's time to skip ahead
Thank you for helping us connect the lore dots.
“It’s helping grind out that irl cooking exp.” 😂
Ummm I think it was stated that Sargeras actually killed the titans long ago and a tiny portion of them went into their avatars. Then again that was Chronicle so who knows.
Illidan: Ahaha Sargeras, you got imprisoned!
.....hey, wait a minute 🤔
Bellular kinda answered his own question. Saragars only did what the other Titan's do all the time according Algernon. Its just that Saragars used Daemons and the Burning Legion, using Fel to remake worlds and not Order/Arcane. That was his 'sin' in the eye's of Patheon, not his actions or even his methods, only that he used Fel magic and not Arcane.
But what if Illidan lost? What if Sargeras defeated the titan pantheon himself already? What if the new draenei customizations have something to do with the Legion being our only hope left for saving Azeroth from the Void's infinite hunger?
I doubt he would, given that their combined powers were strong enough to drag Sargeras back.
Illidan is just a warden
So dragon man, controlled the Jailer, who controlled the Lich King, to seize the world soul, so that the void doesnt? And Sargeras wanted to take or destroy the world soul, so that the void doesnt. And the Titans want to control the world soul, so they can use it to make the trains run on time? Am I getting it? WHO WAS MANIPULATING WHO AGAIN?
Can’t wait to see what cringe-ass cutscene they manage to shit out for the titans 😂
I mean, time travel in media is rarely ever told in a believable manner. If we couldnt stop Deios and Iridikron both, then the proper course of action being able to time travel would have been to stop one of them sooner, like going back to actually kill Deios in Uldaman, which would have stopped him and Iridikron from ever working together.
... Are we to say that Sargeras has a major crush on Azeroth?
By the looks of everything Iridikron and the Void are counting if not wanted that to happen. Which means the Titans are walking in to a Trap. From the lore the Titans them selfs are Immune to the Corruption of the Void. As they cant turn them in to Void beings. But perhaps they found a way or a gamble to try now.
They don’t need to turn them, if they can absorb them.. 🤔
@hamafi1569 oh my well that is a twist.
Sargeras may not become a friend but could be an ally of convivence
Are we sure Galakrond didn’t just straight up eat the fifth old god?
And still one mystery remains. Who is the Maker, is he responsible for all the creation? We have to discover that in the near future.
wonder if Illidan will return with them
He absorbed parts of Sargeras' soul and wrecks havok on Iridikron's body infused with a sliver of Void's power. Thus, reflecting the true purpose of Sargeras' Burning Legion: To destroy before the Void can consume it. Which, could spell Illidan becoming the new leader of the Burning Legion and lead to a 3 way war in 11.0: Void (from the deserts in the west of Kalimdor) vs. Fel (center in the Broken Isles) vs. Light (Yrel and her Army of the Light from the dark portal in the Blasted Lands).
@@echolocationnI think the one major motivation from Illidan that we can't forget is when he is asked how they (the demon hunters) different than the demons. He responded, the demons would do anything to destroy Azeroth, they'd would sacrifice everything to protect it.
Given that DHs also don't have a third spec, I'd see it more likely he comes back to defend Azeroth from other forces. I could still see the three way, Azshara and the void, Yrel and the light, then us.
@@013Burke However, throughout WC3, Illidan was always stopping demons, however he was always tempted with taking their power as well.Seeing as how he's watching over Sargeras, the most powerful demonic entity ever, it'd only be natural for him to want that power. Considering the sheer power of Sargeras, not even Illidan's willpower could hold Sargeras' soul at bay.
The lore feels... somehow much worse after Shadowlands. At least in Legion and BFA it felt relevant... DF so far just leaves me with the overall feeling of "why should I care?"
Legion was the worst expansion ever lore wise.
@@mysticator what happened I left in WoD an came back in dragon flight
There’s also a card in Hearthstone called ‘The Ancient One’ from a couple of years back.
If the Titans do try to take over Azeroth, I wonder if Algalon would try to protect us. We did totally change his perspective on existence and everything last time we saw him.
I think that 10.2 (Fyrrak going after the World Tree seedling and us going after him to stop him) is ultimately going to be nothing more than Iridikron basically sending him to his death with the one goal being delaying us (the players) from going after Iri and ruining HIS plans. He's admitted that we're actually somewhat of a threat, and doing a Razageth and taking us head on might well end up with his head on a spike in Orgrimmar. So, send us on another wild goose chase.
His disregard of Fyrrak's life might well be the final straw for Vyranoth too.
Bellular, your lighting s fantastic.
Sargarus pulls his own sword out of the world.
Haven't played in a while, been doing a lot of Mortal Kombat as of late. I appreciate being kept in the loop
I said in a Bellular Video at the end of Legion that. Illidan will listen to Sargeras’s story. He will hear why he turned, then Illidan will witness the massive danger the void can inflict. He will help Sargeras rise up against the titans and fight the void. The void will attack Azeroth, titans watch on, Sargeras re-emerges and pulls his sword to fight off the void. Sargeras redemption story. Titans overtaken. Sargeras reverts to original form with help from Velen. Illidan, velen, Sargeras and anduin become new pantheon of order after titans are defeated. They are blessed by the newly emerged Azeroth world soul to rise to their new role, power and forms.
No fucking way, Anduin a titan of order 😂
Finally? I'm pretty sure weve had enough of the titans Illidan and Sargaras for them never to return and the game will be better for it.
weird, that void amulet looks exactly like the Mirror of Loss in BG3
I bet anything that when Azeroth is fully awakened she wont side with the Titans. And if shes really that powerful then they wont be able to do anything, and she'll try to bring unity between all the cosmic forces and try to put an end to this millenia old war between them.
Wrong Murozond arriving there is NOT the one true timeline because if you think about the second half of the dungeon the Infinite rules the world wiping out the history as we know it INCLUDING corrupting the titanforged. That is NOT what the Titans want. Also listen to what he says before he goes through the portal at the end he says "The Titans protect this timeline". So not allowing Murozond to arrive than is part of the ONE TRUE TIMELINE. If he did the end time dungeon would have never happened.
Blizzard can't think of anything truly original. Bringing back old characters yet again. Saturday morning cartoon level writing
I...actually agree with much of this video. Good job, Bellular.
If Sargeras returns, and he's friendly, then he can pull his sword out of the planet.
what sword
These theory videos are making me miss Pyromancer. RIP Pyro
Go watch his old videos I would bet he predicted what's going to happen,he did a bunch of videos after legion about illidan and sargeras
Eh, his theories were always too out there making almost no sense. Think I remember he made one about Sylvanas working for Odyn at some point lol.
@@justinb7494 it's not that they were right, it was fun listening to him get into the topic deeply. He was so excited and passionate like a child
Let's hope not, one sentence from Elune in SL was enough to ruin her, so I'm not keen to see whatever this writing team can do to ruin the titans
How is elune ruined??
nAh, she's not ruined
@@yeetwoot2571she is. Keep simping for Activision though. Good little paypiggy 😊
What was the line that ruined her?@@GutsmanLoL
Yeah but Metzen is back and he didn't do Legion rotten
Belu team, the content you make is awesome, keep it going!
I like the Titans. I hope Azeroth will replace Sargaras in the pantheon. It would be interesting to see Zerith Ordos!
I used to like them but now its obvious they are not all good.
@timar6868 maybe not, but they seem to be more on par with protecting Azeroth, and besides, it's clear from one of the time rifts that the Old Gods would corrupt and kill our world!
@@timar6868Yeah, let's all work for the old gods when they mentioned numerous times about enslaving the world, lmao. You people are delusional af
maybe we live in that specific timeline all along - thats might be the reason why the lich king was not able to revive galakrond (because his essence was missing) --- or it follows the principles of schrödingers cat where both scenarios happened until we discover and find out ourselfs.. endless possibilities but i always found thats odd that the most powerful creater of the undead was unable to revive galakrond.. that might be the reason
Can't help but wonder, with the Legion left without it's big head, will some of the titans subjugate parts of the Legion and turn them towards their own goals, or will they be simply left to their own devices?
In case of emergency break glass.
"Corrupted piece of Azeroth or a fifth old god." Ok but what about both? What if the fifth old god is the one nobody ever suspected? What if the Heart of Azeroth really did get weakened to allow a portion of an old god to actually begin to devour her and we've yet to notice due to how insidious the Void is? Why go outwards when we can go inwards? I can absolutely see the Titans coming back to PROTECT the actual world soul; to protect their ideal timeline.
Maybe they'll actually give us a truly morally grey character if they bring back Sargeras.
Sounds like just about everything but the kitchen sink is coming in the next expansion. Titans, void, Scarlet Crusade and the return to Lordaeron, South Seas, the other side of Azeroth, and pirates. Anything I'm forgetting?
The return of the Legion.
We may even team up with them. Anything is possible!
Literally was just going through this in my mind. I hope when the next absolutely buzz kill expansion drops I remember this moment and think "well that was wishful thinking". Cause my God do the possibilities look endless at times.
Oh wow, the Titans created us to be their weapons, enforcing order on the universe.
good give us the void total takeover!! would be nice change, a world where the void rules.
This was all part of the Jailer's plan. Didn't you know?
I bet that infinite hunger is just a fraction of that 5th Old God which is trapped in Torghast as it is the perfect prison (ever-shifting never-ending floors, so no matter how many "truth" you see, you can never get out because it is automatically reformed) for that purpose. Zovaal probably shouldn't have accepted such a creature in the Shadowlands because it corrupted the Maw, which forced his brothers and sisters to replace him and create Oribos where the new souls will get sent, instead of into the Maw.
The fact that Galakrond could manipulate Undeath as well is another hint that his power is somehow linked to the Shadowlands itself. With Galakrond's Hunger and the Amirdrassil's heart (which probably contains the power of resurrection through Ardeanweald and the Dream), I bet they are planning on bringing back the 5th one. Maybe his essence was too big to simply imprison him like the Titans did with every other Old God so they split his soul in different parts to seal him away in Shadowlands, the Dream, and maybe even on Elune herself at that point.
They could easily spin an Illidan Return though he'd probs have many more "order" influences.
How I'd spin the tale or at least how i think itd be easiest to spin. Is the titans will want to use Sargeras' Legion to combat the Void influences and will use Illidan to keep control over the "reformed" titan.
THIS IS NOT OUR NOZDORMU! CHRONOLORD DEISO TRANSFORMS PROTODRAKE NOZDORMU NOT THE TITAN EMPOWERED NOZDORMU, AT THIS POINT HE HAS NOT SEE HIS DEATH!
Said this before:
I have a feeling the titans don’t even know any of this is happening. They seem to only be aware of the big stuff. Like bigger than Jailer.
Unless it effects The Order, the Titans don’t care to know.
The threat the jailer spoke of seems to be coming true
I like to think the titans returned to the plain of order and are removing the corruption of sargeras in the hopes that he will once again become their champion
oh itd be epic when they return we have to fight the titans back, seeing that we know they are bad they try to take azeroth by force, protect azeroth from both void /titans
Anyone else kind of wish the jailer "won" but it caused Sargaras to break free and he ends up fighting the jailer?
Great video but how are we supposed to take the titans as a threat seriously? The Jailer was the pen ultimate titans look like ants compared to me mr I manipulated everything etc... Yeah stupid villain but its the lore and we smacked him around how are the titans supposed to top that?
A very big obvious fact that gets ignored. I honestly don't even understand how these DF "villains" from long ago can even stand up to us or their followers for that matter.
Tbh, the joking idea of the Titans not being able to care about Azeroth because they lack sponsorship is kinda funny, not gonna lie.
So Sargeras became Thanos on wanting what he can't have?
So the bad guys are the good guys cuz they are tryna stop the actual bad guys, we've always thought were the good guys? I get it! I dont get it...
I can't wait to see lord illidan again, the child of proficy, Inc if he's light infised or what but Liam o brian...I mean Illidan is the GOAT. Make an illidan video of how you think k he'll come back, your videos are wonderful.
everyone says metzen represents thrall, but really, he represents the titans. metzen back, titans back.
Sargaras stabbed the planet I do not think he cares for it. time will tell
Where is all this void coming from if the old gods are all dead? Why did we bother killing them all
Algalon sounds like Aizen
honestly what if it turned out there was another empire on other side of planet whole time that were opposed to the titans this whole time and thats why the titans dont mention the other sie and its guarded by something or someone as powerful as them?
Perfect perfection?
illidan will go insane when he knows that hes brother give hes life to be the next world tree and Fyrrak wants to destroy it! i think illidan will go into madness the state of insanity that will make him do any blood pact with any of the titans
I don't think Christ Metzen and Illidan can save this but maybe I'll be wrong
When is Belluar finally going to stop doing these “THIS WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN GUYS I SWEAR” videos that never come true?
If those time rifts are all different azeroths, why is one of them elunaria? Is elunaria on the other side of the planet?
I kinda hope Azeroth herself semi-awakens and strikes down Iridikron.
Given what we've seen of Chaos, Void, Light, Life and Death I still think Order is the most benevolent.
"Order is the most benevolent"
In WoW, that means you lose your flesh and turn into semi-sentient rock creatures, or robots.
@@Blundabus1337 Has Order been seen actually forcing that anyone? Because the Titan-forged was created that way so it seems natural. Given what we've seen the other Forces do, Order is stil the most benevolent.
@@aster4jaden Yes, there is a robo-gnome in WOTLK in Borean Tundra that did.
@@Blundabus1337 Gnome's was originally Titan-forged to begin with and so was King Mechagon who attempted to something similar. That was a personal choice made by specific Beings (who became beings of Life and rejected it), they wasn't true beings of Order from the Order Dimension.
I've said for a while that the idea that "The Titans were evil all along" would be way too lazy of a storyline. It would make far more sense that they were just misguided in their pursuit of order and lacking in awareness that their power doesn't make them infallible. You see it in the story over and over, it works.
My guess is that the thing that separated the Incarnates and the Aspects was their interpretations of Tyr's experiments. Clearly Tyr went too far and was experimenting on eggs. What was he doing though? Did he accidentally go too far by seeing if he could control void magic, fusing it with Galakrond and creating decay? I think he saw that primordial dragons were capable of taking on elements of Azeroth and thought he could infuse them with other magics from the cosmos; life, nature, time, arcane, etc. Then he went a step further. The Aspects realized all they could do was deal with it, but the Incarnates instead wanted to wipe everything out and restart with the elements. It would make so much more sense to me if they did it that way.
I hope when Sargeras returns we destroy him and the entire server named Sargeras as well.
just introduce the titans to goddamn online shopping and that will be it.
*"Avatars of Order ....."*
Amazon?
I’m not getting my hopes up on illidan, given what they did to arthas
keep up the good work....
If they mess up Illidan I move on from quitting playing to quitting caring