Clip of Siouxsie from the program, Queens of British Pop Please read the pinned comment before commenting on how Siouxsie is not "Pop" www.bbc.co.uk/p...
This is a clip from the 2-part BBC documentary "Queens of British Pop" featuring a diverse mixture of women from different genres such as Marianne Faithfull, Sandie Shaw, Lulu, Kate Bush, Siouxsie, Annie Lennox, Alison Moyet & Adele. It has nothing to do with how "Pop" music is perceived today Siouxsie herself loathes being associated with goth music "Someone asked me how it felt to be the queen of goth. I said, 'That's rather like being known as the Prince Regent of Fools.' I hate all that. There is a fun, flippant side to me, of course. But I would much rather be known as the Ice Queen."
Bob Doubter I know all those other bands from the 80s I can't bear anymore but Siouxsie and the Banshees still sounds modern and has nothing nostalgic about it. It
Marc Almond said it right, she had amazing stage presence. I wasn't a big fan when I went to see her, they were just the band on at the end of a holiday we thought it'd be good to round out with a gig, but she was utterly mesmerising - The act that left the biggest, unexpected, positive impression on me, ever! Must've been '81 or '82.
Kind of after her original appearance, but I remember seeing her in about '91 in Toronto. Very cool band. Of course I already knew them, but it was great. Nice performance in a smallish venue, the Masonic Temple. Really dreamy. They were touring the Superstition album. It was winter, and Toronto gets really cold, so I had a sweater on. It was drenched in sweat by the end of the show.
So, I've always known the name "Siouxsie and the Banshees"... I was under the impression she was a brunette Wendy O. Williams; I'm glad to discovered she's some sort of British cross of Dale Bozzio from Missing Persons and Debora Iyall of Romeovoid!! Except Siouxsie came before those two, and I totally dig her. I heard "Peek-a-boo" on Sirius satellite radio channel 33 (1st Wave) about a week ago, and I've been devouring Siouxsie's music ever since. Love her!!
I'm glad to say that Debora lives near me now in Palm Springs. She's a great person and has a new group, DIG, the Debora Iyall Group and still has her great voice! she also teaches art. i will never go into a nursing home unless they play over the P.A. only music by Siouxsie, Debora, the Slits & Garbage...
+Rob Heathers I've only known Never Say Never by RV and never knew what the band looked like. Watched the video for that song just now. I was expecting Debora to be a skinny blonde with a terrible 80's perm. I'm glad to see she had character.
Siouxie is a Pop Queen, a Punk Icon and a Legend. Disappointed the doc claims she was the only female front person in the initial UK punk scene which is rather disrespectful to Penetration, the Slits, X-Ray Spex and others but otherwise this is fantastic.
In the early 90s my girlfriend and I saw them play the UWM Ballroom in Milwaukee and my girlfriend talked me into sneaking backstage to get an autograph. Half hour or so after the show when they were coming out to their tour bus, we basically surprised them. They were so nice to us. I'll never forget it. She gave me and my girlfriend a big hug. It was like she was excited to meet us! They stood there and chatted and joked with us for a good ten minutes. They're the nicest, most down to Earth people you'd ever meet. Siouxie Sioux is not just a great musician but her and Budgie are nice, nice people too.
A hug is so American. I want to visit America once, but I am afraid of the hug. It holds me back being pushed to an old lady with hanging tits and having to like that. I fear the hug.
Siouxsie is so goddamn beautiful. She created a style that so many people leech off of these days without knowing about this beauty that created it all.
Shocked to hear Shirley Manson was bullied at school, just shows you can either let it grind u down or you can rise up and be something, she's such a inspiration and such a legend.
Cherry picking examples of those that somehow "rose up" tends to ignore the thousands that got ground down. Rising up in the music industry is a very chancy endeavour.
She mentioned her red hair as maybe being part of what caused some of the bullying. Is there a stigma against red hair in Britain? I only ask because in America of the 70s young redheaded girls were somewhat revered as being a bit unique. They would never be ousted for it.
@@dinkmartini3236I wouldn't call it bullying as such but any red head, male or female, was a "ginner" first and foremost in the 70s and 80s when I grew up...speaking as a bloke redheads were not classed as being any fitter (fit is our word for hot) or uglier but if you had a disagreement with a redhead of either sex any insult u may throw at them was prefixed with "ginner" normally followed with a c...reminding them of their hair colour was a daily constant they had to endure but it didn't stop them from being accepted in any way whatsoever, it was no different than being tall or fat or poor or still wearing flares or being soft...u know kids stuff, it was tough out there in the playgrounds during the 70s as we all know😊...i think Shirley Manson was slightly over egging the bullying aspect, then again she has made a career out of it, much as I love garbage
Yet she's taken like one of the most representative goth figures, it's like Motorhead: not metal, they were rock & roll but they are taken by many as an important metal figure sooo...
seanmedic 1 it makes me mad when people mention Siouxsie / Banshees as Goth(apart from her image being copied) they have never had anything to do with Goth at all as Steve Severin always say's he hates being mentioned with Goth I was an original Siouxsie /Banshees fan in the 70's they were my 1st ever gig age 13 in 1978(they were a Punk band / then post punk in early80's then a pop band) & I was there for the start of Goth in London etc etc.
Hong Kong Garden is my local Chinese takeaway in Chislehurst and the song was written about this very place! It's still in the same location, but is now called Noble House.
I undertook a pilgrimage to Chislehurst years ago basically to see the area the Bromley contingent inhabited and the Hong Kong Garden was still there then. It really caught me by surprise when I saw it and I had a "it can't be......it must be" moment. Happy times......
@@simongill184 “Men use women...” So the women don’t have any say in this? Are they used without their consent? These women don’t get well rewarded? Not sure what you’re getting at but it’s not got much to do with my point.
You simply know you're legendary when the likes of Viv Albertine, Marc Almond, Clare Grogan and Shirley Manson are all fangirling over you. Even if she herself hates the title, Siouxsie is a goddess.
No ones mentioned the swastika at 4.30? What was the justification for that? Irony? Not that I'm bothered about it, I'm more worried about the double standards I'm seeing more and more of.
kristianTV1974 : The swastica was worn by some punks in Great Britain within their fashion designs mainly has a shock value statement against the post WW II british political establishment: it was simply a form of protest against youth's high unemployement rate in GB during the 70's, the warlike situation in Northern Ireland and the general crisis created by Margaret Tatchers' tory government which made the working class people suffer a great deal while the upper classes, the aristocracy and banking elites still maintained their ludicrous priveleges! Sid Vicious for instance also used to wear a red t-shirt with a black swastica but he was NOT a neo-nazi! You mustn't confuse the early english punk-rock movement from 76' until late 78' with its contemporary skinhead movement or the later nazi-punk "oi-oi" bands wich had an overt far right neo-nazi ideology! There's also a bit of confusion regarding the so-called 2nd wave of U.K. punk-rock bands which started in 79' going until 84' with the anarcho-punks hardcore bands such as Crass, G.B.H., Chaos, Discharge, Conflict, The Exploited, Adicts, etc... (which some were politicized anarchist militant bands and not neo-nazis)!
I think this was a great series; and I think that it should be shown to all teenage girls at school. Siouxsie is a prime example of a woman who entered the music industry on her own terms.
Once, back in the 90s one of my friends rightly said: "Siouxsie is the Mother of us all". Today in 2015 I think he'd still be absolutely right if he said that again.
I was listening to her in the early 80s but lost track of her when I stopped following punk. Then years later I saw her at the first Lollapoolaza and it was amazing! She sounded great and her band was playing better than ever. Wish I could find that show somewhere. I will never forget it.
She just made great, beautiful music unlike anything else before or after. I still love her stuff. It is powerful, mysterious and never gets old. Thank you, Siouxsie!
The introduction of Viv Albertine cuts to an early photo of The Slits and zooms in on what's supposed to be Viv, but it's actually the original guitarist Kate Chorus (later of The Mo-Dettes) in the photo. It's not surprising that the producers of docs like this can't be bothered to get things right, but they could've easily found an early Slits photo with Viv featured.
Everything said is 101% true and Siouxsie Sioux and the Banshees did and still have such a cool sound and style, I would like to personally thank Siouxsie for sticking with her guns and not trying to make it with the mainstream and sacrificing what she wanted to do for more commercial success, I always love to see artists especially musicians and Poets get paid well for what they do because they deserve it more than any athlete or even actor actress,, musicians have more influence over people and what happens in the world as a whole!! And music is my favorite drug and I've tried them all but music has never let me down!! Thank you to all musicians and for the Crusade you fight is stronger than any army there's ever been or ever will be, and I pour my heart out to you all and give you my deepest respect, love and appreciation,, sincerely,, Jerry...
Jerry Jocoy I'm a fan of all types of music from hip hop to punk ,metal ,metalcore electronic and Latin music .I just got into Siouxsie and the banshees recently.
She was an influence of my lifestyle and still is.....I still am punked today and will stay this way forever..............people get the creeps from me and that feels so damn good....we could be sisters of No mercy... moniqueb02
Siouxsie would rather die than get a gong. That would mean acceptance. She'd hate to be lumped in with Dave Gilmour, Sir Mick and Sir Rod. She's a proper, challenging artist not an-eager-to-please entertainer. There's a difference.
+cheekyberd... yeah you're probably right... it's just a common courtesy in this country. She has probably brought more industry to this country than the Royal Yacht.
I'm 44 now and know Siouxsie has had a great impact on my life even now as I listen to all my favorites from high school. She made me feel acceptable. Just be yourself was her message.
Still fancy our Susan, your art, music is the pinnacle of excellence of how it's done. From the Scream to Join Hands, and seeing you on the release of JuJu at Derby Assembly rooms is imprinted in my head. Although my head is firmly attached and not a head cut lol. From 76 as a 8 year old lad, to a 47 year old dude, I have never stopped listening to your work. Wail of the banshees forever xxxxx
Opti mum: Oh, come on--tired of people feeling they have to put down one artist to big up another. I like both Siouxsie and Beyonce, they're both talented and carved out their own way in the music industry--which can be very tough on women artists,anyway. And Beyonce has written and produced her own songs,too, for the past decade.
Have you seen how many people are involved in making a beyonce album, Kirk? It doest take a village, it takes a friggin' state! She may 'write' her songs but so do about six other people on the same track. Why is that necessary ?! Is it any coincidence that the only original member of Destiny's Child was related to her? She used that group as a ladder to her own solo career, no matter how many casulties got hurt along the way. Plus she is a master at stealing from other people. Just google it. Here's one for free: the single ladies dance routine was done decades ago by Bob Fosse www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/1560092/op-ed-when-beyonces-inspiration-turns-into-imitation
all i can say is be thankful for the late baby boomers like siouxsie and early generation x like kurt cobain... there will never be anyone like them again..
Speeking as a 1964 punk sproggan - Thank you for thanking me, but ffrankly, Suxie was SUCH an overrated TWAT, post-Tinderbox, that, well, I'd rather my Gen was remembered for the REAL Divas of Punk/Post-Punk than this lightweight Pretender To The Throne (like - well, see other posts here for recc's, cos I can't be arsed copying/pasting no more - haw!) Cheerz! "Peace", n out. >:-D
Chrysanthemumbreath Sinclair Actually, the baby boom refers to the generation of children born after WW2, when soldiers returned home and pretty much all had multiple children. Baby boomer comes from "baby boom" where so many babies were born so quickly and in such number it overwhelmed existing facilities. Doctors, hospitals, schools, everything had to be built up and expanded to cope with the sudden massive influx of children into the world. Today boomers are hitting old age and health care and elderly care systems are straining under the load. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the phenomenon occurred in multiple countries, not just the US.
I first saw Siouxsie in 1980 at Tiffany's in Coventry and I was in awe of her! The Banshees were my favourite band for years and I saw a good few bands in my time- I must check out her solo stuff,from what I've seen so far, she hasn't lost it at all and hats off to her! She's done it all on her own terms and is a one off!
She's more the queen of Punk ! Even if she hates being called like that nowadays i suppose. But calling her queen of Pop reduces her strenth and power in my opinion. Queen of pop is Madonna's title.
Duff BAKER- Hahaha,yes,like a smelly fart,haha! Siouxsie has always been unique,original and supremely talented! Madonna is mediocre and has to use shock tactics to stop us all from falling asleep with boredom! Siouxsie pisses all over her!
Saw her at the UEA in Norwich, Norfolk.She sat on a tall bar stool during the performance singing her heart out. FAB. She had broken her leg previously, brave lady.What a girl and band !!!!! x Stuart Norwich UK.
The first (and last?) time we shall ever see Steve Jones and “gallant” in the same sentence! 🤣 Actually, Emma is quite right about Bill Grundys’ creepy old man moves and Steve spotted it instantly. As did Siouxsie. Grundy was well known at the time for being pissed during his early evening primetime shows - and this show got him well and truly fired - but if he'd said the same sort of thing today, he'd have the mass rozzers of Operation Yewtree breathing down his back demanding to know what else was going on. Well done, Jonesey!
Don"t know where to start about Siouxsie, A smart women who knew what she wanted and didn't back down!!! She is a real person, but signifies a woman who didn't take crap. Stood up for herself and band, Remember how many women fronted a band? An Amazing Soul, to be missed.........
Valeria Arguello , julia marr the clip is taken from a programme called "Queens of Pop" that features profiles of several female artists, not just Siouxsie. Plus "pop" comes from popular - before it was hijacked in the 90's by the bubblegum music - and can be applied to any type of music
royal nass When I first read your comment I thought you were calling someone a "fuck pop"... lol! Actually- now I'm going to make it a point to call someone a fuck pop today. A friend most likely...
Totally a one of a kind goddess,icon, and such a strong “powerful” presence ,just image wise, she causes one to gawk as ones eyes gazing at a peacock, beautiful & stunning
The show is on BBC Four in 20 minutes. It features a Variety of females from the music scene that were highly influential & not just from one genre: Dusty Springfield, Sandie Shaw, Marianne Faithfull, Suzi Quatro, Siouxsie Sioux, Kate Bush, Amy Winehouse, Annie Lennox, Alison Moyet, Kylie Minogue, Geri Haliwell. What would YOU have called such a programme?
Music used to have so much passion, mystery, and intensity. The subcultures were incredible and inspiring and dark too. What Is There Now?! God I miss Punk & Gothic & Rave/Electronica culture from 80's & 90's. I feel bad for the youth of today with nobody to look up to, just Emo Hipster SJW Activist phonies.
Yes, I remember in the summer of hate in 76', me and my mate Soss going to interview her for my fanzine Rebel Rouser, we went from Bristol - Chilslehurst and she didnt show up? her mum said "I'm sorry Susan isnt here" 6 months later we met at the Roundabout Club Newport where my band VerminX supported the Banshees, she was charming. Great Days.
There were a group of female singers around at the time notably TOYAH, LENA LOVICH, HAZELL O CONNOR ,POLYSTYRENE. who were never in the same league as SIOUXSIE but all were great in concert..I saw them all but Siouxsie has remained iconic and truely magical . Hard to believe it is over 40 yrs since SIOUXSIE AND THE BANSHEES THE SCREAM was released
'I Love Siouxsie Sioux and The Banshees from their first album, The Scream, which I bought as a young Punk in 1979 at the age of 17 and all their albums up to Tinderbox, from where I lost them for a while, only because I'd stopped buying any music for a while. I still love their music. Great little video, thankyou. I enjoyed this very much.'
This is a clip from the 2-part BBC documentary "Queens of British Pop" featuring a diverse mixture of women from different genres such as Marianne Faithfull, Sandie Shaw, Lulu, Kate Bush, Siouxsie, Annie Lennox, Alison Moyet & Adele. It has nothing to do with how "Pop" music is perceived today
Siouxsie herself loathes being associated with goth music "Someone asked me how it felt to be the queen of goth. I said, 'That's rather like being known as the Prince Regent of Fools.' I hate all that. There is a fun, flippant side to me, of course. But I would much rather be known as the Ice Queen."
i thought grace slick was sometimes considered an ice queen
Matbe during her specific era. Certainly no with "We Built This City" :p
simply "pop" as in "popular", popular in whatever scene or subculture said artists operated in, right?
exactly! Finally someone understands
She will always be my Ice Queen.
Her music has aged very well. A week can't go by without some Siouxsie.
It's more like a day doesn't go by with me! 🖖
+Lord Whitenorth 😂
Bob Doubter I know all those other bands from the 80s I can't bear anymore but Siouxsie and the Banshees still sounds modern and has nothing nostalgic about it. It
I agree. Mostly they were a great singles band.
Agree,unlike a lot of punk
God I love this woman
Agreed!!!
I know this may sound unbelievable,but SATB version of 'Dear Prudence' was the initial version that I heard.
Happy to have seen them, several times.
Best wishes to Siouxsie, Always
Marc Almond said it right, she had amazing stage presence. I wasn't a big fan when I went to see her, they were just the band on at the end of a holiday we thought it'd be good to round out with a gig, but she was utterly mesmerising - The act that left the biggest, unexpected, positive impression on me, ever! Must've been '81 or '82.
You're so right Marc ..her legacy will live on ..
Kind of after her original appearance, but I remember seeing her in about '91 in Toronto. Very cool band. Of course I already knew them, but it was great. Nice performance in a smallish venue, the Masonic Temple. Really dreamy. They were touring the Superstition album. It was winter, and Toronto gets really cold, so I had a sweater on. It was drenched in sweat by the end of the show.
She is so beautiful to me and i just discovered her
Ice Queen ? Bird of Prey ? Human Blade ? How about just simply a unique, very talented artist ?
So, I've always known the name "Siouxsie and the Banshees"... I was under the impression she was a brunette Wendy O. Williams; I'm glad to discovered she's some sort of British cross of Dale Bozzio from Missing Persons and Debora Iyall of Romeovoid!! Except Siouxsie came before those two, and I totally dig her. I heard "Peek-a-boo" on Sirius satellite radio channel 33 (1st Wave) about a week ago, and I've been devouring Siouxsie's music ever since. Love her!!
I'm glad to say that Debora lives near me now in Palm Springs. She's a great person and has a new group, DIG, the Debora Iyall Group and still has her great voice! she also teaches art.
i will never go into a nursing home unless they play over the P.A. only music by Siouxsie, Debora, the Slits & Garbage...
+Rob Heathers I've only known Never Say Never by RV and never knew what the band looked like. Watched the video for that song just now. I was expecting Debora to be a skinny blonde with a terrible 80's perm. I'm glad to see she had character.
Rob Heathers : BE gone neophite nerd!
Pop?? What the heck, she is the Mother and Goddess of Goth Rock.
*Sigh!*
Let's not forget her unstoppable voice. It's chilling, mesmerising and so forceful. What an artist.
Siouxie is a Pop Queen, a Punk Icon and a Legend. Disappointed the doc claims she was the only female front person in the initial UK punk scene which is rather disrespectful to Penetration, the Slits, X-Ray Spex and others but otherwise this is fantastic.
In the early 90s my girlfriend and I saw them play the UWM Ballroom in Milwaukee and my girlfriend talked me into sneaking backstage to get an autograph. Half hour or so after the show when they were coming out to their tour bus, we basically surprised them. They were so nice to us. I'll never forget it. She gave me and my girlfriend a big hug. It was like she was excited to meet us! They stood there and chatted and joked with us for a good ten minutes. They're the nicest, most down to Earth people you'd ever meet. Siouxie Sioux is not just a great musician but her and Budgie are nice, nice people too.
Awesome story. Thanks for sharing. :)
I was at that same show. Spiritualized opened. Never thought to meet them after the show. Kicking myself.
Great story, wish I could have been there. :)
Greek are you?
A hug is so American.
I want to visit America once, but I am afraid of the hug. It holds me back being pushed to an old lady with hanging tits and having to like that. I fear the hug.
Siouxsie and the Banshees for rock and roll hall of fame!
Wipe the floor with the HOF
@ramcurequeeny Amen, too that.
When siuxies and the Banshes started ir was post punk
No! I'd vote to keep them out of that garbage bin.
Sure, along with Tupac
Siouxsie is so goddamn beautiful. She created a style that so many people leech off of these days without knowing about this beauty that created it all.
100% she was and IS STILL!💃❤️💋🌺
❤ brilliant should be in hall of fame
One of the most influential bands of all time, vastly underrated especially in the states.
Shocked to hear Shirley Manson was bullied at school, just shows you can either let it grind u down or you can rise up and be something, she's such a inspiration and such a legend.
Cherry picking examples of those that somehow "rose up" tends to ignore the thousands that got ground down. Rising up in the music industry is a very chancy endeavour.
She mentioned her red hair as maybe being part of what caused some of the bullying. Is there a stigma against red hair in Britain? I only ask because in America of the 70s young redheaded girls were somewhat revered as being a bit unique. They would never be ousted for it.
Almost anyone interesting was bullied. The bullies are the sad, pathetic ones who are forgotten and hopefully live with guilt and shame.
@@dinkmartini3236I wouldn't call it bullying as such but any red head, male or female, was a "ginner" first and foremost in the 70s and 80s when I grew up...speaking as a bloke redheads were not classed as being any fitter (fit is our word for hot) or uglier but if you had a disagreement with a redhead of either sex any insult u may throw at them was prefixed with "ginner" normally followed with a c...reminding them of their hair colour was a daily constant they had to endure but it didn't stop them from being accepted in any way whatsoever, it was no different than being tall or fat or poor or still wearing flares or being soft...u know kids stuff, it was tough out there in the playgrounds during the 70s as we all know😊...i think Shirley Manson was slightly over egging the bullying aspect, then again she has made a career out of it, much as I love garbage
Original Gothic Queen
Not gothic.
Yet she's taken like one of the most representative goth figures, it's like Motorhead: not metal, they were rock & roll but they are taken by many as an important metal figure sooo...
Goth, punk, rock & then some.
seanmedic 1 it makes me mad when people mention Siouxsie / Banshees as Goth(apart from her image being copied) they have never had anything to do with Goth at all as Steve Severin always say's he hates being mentioned with Goth I was an original Siouxsie /Banshees fan in the 70's they were my 1st ever gig age 13 in 1978(they were a Punk band / then post punk in early80's then a pop band) & I was there for the start of Goth in London etc etc.
Siouxsie is one of the greatest music stars *ever* in my book.
Laureen Zed the top one in mine
So ir is in mine 🌶🌶
Hong Kong Garden is my local Chinese takeaway in Chislehurst and the song was written about this very place!
It's still in the same location, but is now called Noble House.
I undertook a pilgrimage to Chislehurst years ago basically to see the area the Bromley contingent inhabited and the Hong Kong Garden was still there then. It really caught me by surprise when I saw it and I had a "it can't be......it must be" moment. Happy times......
Siouxsie blows Madonna out of the water.
Too right.
so true
They blow each other out back.
Buck Weet different genres
Buck Weet Well said!
This, is real feminism.
A woman using her looks and body to achieve fame and not giving the men behind her any credit for her success. Yup, sounds like feminism.
@@wattage2007
I mean are Women not allowed to use their looks ?
Isn’t that what we Men enjoy ? after all she is married to one of them.
@@wattage2007 men use women for their looks all the time to make money. But women take control and use it for their own needs it’s wrong ?
@@simongill184 “Men use women...” So the women don’t have any say in this? Are they used without their consent? These women don’t get well rewarded? Not sure what you’re getting at but it’s not got much to do with my point.
@@wattage2007 LOL, her body? Are you serious?
Siouxie has always been a brilliant artist and gifted songwriter.. I still often listen to the Banshees even in my car
You simply know you're legendary when the likes of Viv Albertine, Marc Almond, Clare Grogan and Shirley Manson are all fangirling over you.
Even if she herself hates the title, Siouxsie is a goddess.
"A human blade, a bird of prey" Cool.
My niece was named after her. It's funny seeing people tripping out on how her name is spelled.
Susie? Nope
Suzy? Nope
SIOUXIE LOL.
Sweet68Camaro
you missed out the second S there! 'suey'
It was a word the french used to describe the Lakota nations.
SIOUXSIE? Nope
No ones mentioned the swastika at 4.30? What was the justification for that? Irony?
Not that I'm bothered about it, I'm more worried about the double standards I'm seeing more and more of.
kristianTV1974 : The swastica was worn by some punks in Great Britain within their fashion designs mainly has a shock value statement against the post WW II british political establishment: it was simply a form of protest against youth's high unemployement rate in GB during the 70's, the warlike situation in Northern Ireland and the general crisis created by Margaret Tatchers' tory government which made the working class people suffer a great deal while the upper classes, the aristocracy and banking elites still maintained their ludicrous priveleges!
Sid Vicious for instance also used to wear a red t-shirt with a black swastica but he was NOT a neo-nazi!
You mustn't confuse the early english punk-rock movement from 76' until late 78' with its contemporary skinhead movement or the later nazi-punk "oi-oi" bands wich had an overt far right neo-nazi ideology!
There's also a bit of confusion regarding the so-called 2nd wave of U.K. punk-rock bands which started in 79'
going until 84' with the anarcho-punks hardcore bands such as Crass, G.B.H., Chaos, Discharge, Conflict, The Exploited, Adicts, etc... (which some were politicized anarchist militant bands and not neo-nazis)!
I think this was a great series; and I think that it should be shown to all teenage girls at school. Siouxsie is a prime example of a woman who entered the music industry on her own terms.
the song around the 1:14 mark is "Ladytron," by Bryan Ferry of "Roxy Music"
Thank you! This was exactly what I was looking for :)
Once, back in the 90s one of my friends rightly said: "Siouxsie is the Mother of us all". Today in 2015 I think he'd still be absolutely right if he said that again.
she is an incomparable natural artist and light in the darkness of mediocrity, may that light always shine for those brave enough to follow it!
I was listening to her in the early 80s but lost track of her when I stopped following punk. Then years later I saw her at the first Lollapoolaza and it was amazing! She sounded great and her band was playing better than ever. Wish I could find that show somewhere. I will never forget it.
Chris Replogle I saw them at the first Lollapalooza too🙂 I wish I had seen them more than once!
She just made great, beautiful music unlike anything else before or after. I still love her stuff. It is powerful, mysterious and never gets old. Thank you, Siouxsie!
man, you are an idiot! Bush not only had one of the best voices ever, but also wrote some of the best songs and had the best visual imagination
The introduction of Viv Albertine cuts to an early photo of The Slits and zooms in on what's supposed to be Viv, but it's actually the original guitarist Kate Chorus (later of The Mo-Dettes) in the photo. It's not surprising that the producers of docs like this can't be bothered to get things right, but they could've easily found an early Slits photo with Viv featured.
living in the 80's is the most precious gift God have given to us...
Who else was secretly hoping there was an actual Pan's People dance to "Spellbound"?
+Archvaldor's Warcraft Hacks Me - I saw the opening and thought 'I don't remember this!'. Pity it never happened :-)
LOL! That would be terrific
They actually did "Happy house", never seen it on here though!
Rupert D. Bayer I too had to do a double take, as deep down I knew it did not compute...Sadly, the last year of Pan’s People on TOTP was ‘76.
There's a Sex Pistols Pans People dance . I think its Silly Thing.
Siouxsie is a strong personality, a great artist and a woman who uses her brain!
She gave her own contribution to the music history!
Wow! From a time when truly subversive music could sneak into the mainstream.
I can't say I enjoy all of The Banshee's music, but Siouxsie is such an inspiration regardless!
Everything said is 101% true and Siouxsie Sioux and the Banshees did and still have such a cool sound and style, I would like to personally thank Siouxsie for sticking with her guns and not trying to make it with the mainstream and sacrificing what she wanted to do for more commercial success, I always love to see artists especially musicians and Poets get paid well for what they do because they deserve it more than any athlete or even actor actress,, musicians have more influence over people and what happens in the world as a whole!! And music is my favorite drug and I've tried them all but music has never let me down!! Thank you to all musicians and for the Crusade you fight is stronger than any army there's ever been or ever will be, and I pour my heart out to you all and give you my deepest respect, love and appreciation,, sincerely,,
Jerry...
There's just something about a perfect cross that is almost like music or poetry though ... :)
Jerry Jocoy Respect to you Jerry
Jerry Jocoy Yeah I couldn't agree more she never sold out .
Jerry Jocoy I'm a fan of all types of music from hip hop to punk ,metal ,metalcore electronic and Latin music .I just got into Siouxsie and the banshees recently.
Well said!
You will never see the like of this woman again! HISTORY MAKER X
She was an influence of my lifestyle and still is.....I still am punked today and will stay this way forever..............people get the creeps from me and that feels so damn good....we could be sisters of No mercy... moniqueb02
I love her and Poly Styrene from the X-ray Spex. Fierce women I admire!
*HOLY SHIT!!!* Siouxsie looks smoking HOT in this interview!!
Siouxsie should get a gong. If David Gilmour, Mick Jagger and Robert Plant get one, it is time Siouxsie got one too.
Siouxsie would rather die than get a gong. That would mean acceptance. She'd hate to be lumped in with Dave Gilmour, Sir Mick and Sir Rod. She's a proper, challenging artist not an-eager-to-please entertainer. There's a difference.
+cheekyberd... yeah you're probably right... it's just a common courtesy in this country. She has probably brought more industry to this country than the Royal Yacht.
goddess
I'm 44 now and know Siouxsie has had a great impact on my life even now as I listen to all my favorites from high school. She made me feel acceptable. Just be yourself was her message.
Did any girl here dare to wear Siouxie's make up in High School and ended up getting a warning?
I had to wait until I got to school to put on my eyeliner or my Mom wouldnt leave me alone
Before Madonna there was Siouxsie. I also loved Claire Grogan, what a babe. Alterned Images were also different. Great pop bad
Still fancy our Susan, your art, music is the pinnacle of excellence of how it's done. From the Scream to Join Hands, and seeing you on the release of JuJu at Derby Assembly rooms is imprinted in my head. Although my head is firmly attached and not a head cut lol. From 76 as a 8 year old lad, to a 47 year old dude, I have never stopped listening to your work. Wail of the banshees forever xxxxx
"Sacrificed Commercial Success, For Artistic Success"...Looking for more musicians, with this mind-set.
Siouxsie Sioux was bad ass! Loved her music, and still listen to her constantly to this day :)
she still is.
Godamn, she's gorgeous!!.....she is the queen of punk, btw, commenters below. Take it from a punk!
My queen Siouxsie Sioux!!!
She mesmerizes and inspires me.
Opti mum:
Oh, come on--tired of people feeling they have to put down one artist to big up another. I like both Siouxsie and Beyonce, they're both talented and carved out their own way in the music industry--which can be very tough on women artists,anyway. And Beyonce has written and produced her own songs,too, for the past decade.
Have you seen how many people are involved in making a beyonce album, Kirk? It doest take a village, it takes a friggin' state! She may 'write' her songs but so do about six other people on the same track. Why is that necessary ?!
Is it any coincidence that the only original member of Destiny's Child was related to her? She used that group as a ladder to her own solo career, no matter how many casulties got hurt along the way.
Plus she is a master at stealing from other people. Just google it. Here's one for free: the single ladies dance routine was done decades ago by Bob Fosse
www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/1560092/op-ed-when-beyonces-inspiration-turns-into-imitation
She is an amazing creative person
Why do you miss murder ? You should be glad that you gave it up 😉
Sid Vicious was the first drummer of Siouxsie and the Banshees!
One of the sexiest females ever...
d'accord
We had Siouxsie,yanks had Patti Smith.Smith was ugly,Siouxsie was fit.Still looks good now.
all i can say is be thankful for the late baby boomers like siouxsie and early generation x like kurt cobain... there will never be anyone like them again..
mrcryingnarcissus Triggered snowflake! LMAO!
Speeking as a 1964 punk sproggan - Thank you for thanking me, but ffrankly, Suxie was SUCH an overrated TWAT, post-Tinderbox, that, well, I'd rather my Gen was remembered for the REAL Divas of Punk/Post-Punk than this lightweight Pretender To The Throne (like - well, see other posts here for recc's, cos I can't be arsed copying/pasting no more - haw!) Cheerz! "Peace", n out. >:-D
A baby Boomer is referred to an American born durring WW2. lolz. sooooo.....yeah.
Chrysanthemumbreath Sinclair Actually, the baby boom refers to the generation of children born after WW2, when soldiers returned home and pretty much all had multiple children. Baby boomer comes from "baby boom" where so many babies were born so quickly and in such number it overwhelmed existing facilities. Doctors, hospitals, schools, everything had to be built up and expanded to cope with the sudden massive influx of children into the world. Today boomers are hitting old age and health care and elderly care systems are straining under the load. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the phenomenon occurred in multiple countries, not just the US.
datura1983 Kurt Cobain ruined music.
Siouxsie and Madonna..There’s no comparison whatsoever....
keith-lee castle Except that that the first time I saw a photo of Madonna she was eearing black cross earrings & mucho wrist jewellery.
...and yet your comment, for whatever reason, implies that there is such a comparison.
Popo Bawa I have heard that Madonna was in the front row for the Slits' first New York gig so I wonder whether that is true.
Madonna totally copped herself a siouxsie sioux STYLE and got the credit for it .....
"Siouxsie is like an old time film star. Like a Marlene Dietrich or Greta Garbo." That's flipping spot on perfect.
I so glad she done well, she was at my school at the same time as me.
I first saw Siouxsie in 1980 at Tiffany's in Coventry and I was in awe of her! The Banshees were my favourite band for years and I saw a good few bands in my time- I must check out her solo stuff,from what I've seen so far, she hasn't lost it at all and hats off to her! She's done it all on her own terms and is a one off!
Not Amused : Check out her other project band The Creatures!
Mark Almond doesnt mention the 1 actress that influenced Siouxies look most.Louise Brooks.The most beautiful woman ever!Siouxies a close 2nd!
She's more the queen of Punk ! Even if she hates being called like that nowadays i suppose. But calling her queen of Pop reduces her strenth and power in my opinion.
Queen of pop is Madonna's title.
she hated the term 'punk'
Madonna's "title" is the Queen of Poop. She blows.
Ian Harris *post* punk
Duff BAKER- Hahaha,yes,like a smelly fart,haha! Siouxsie has always been unique,original and supremely talented! Madonna is mediocre and has to use shock tactics to stop us all from falling asleep with boredom! Siouxsie pisses all over her!
Siouxsie is a musician. Madonna is a soap opera.
Wish more artists were like her..was my college years and beyond. Open me up to others like The Cure., ect.
I got to see her live in 1985. To this day one of the best shows I've been to. Give credit to her band, they where a big part of what she did.
S.S 4 ever. Yes she does blow Madonna out of the galaxy.
Maybe Siouxsie influenced Sevalan's looks on B7 eh???
She'd make a badass Rani for Doctor Who too😎😎😎
S.S 4 ever. Yes she does blow Madonna out of the galaxy. Fan since '79.
Saw her at the UEA in Norwich, Norfolk.She sat on a tall bar stool during the performance singing her heart out. FAB. She had broken her leg previously, brave lady.What a girl and band !!!!! x Stuart Norwich UK.
Viv Albertine, crikey talk about growing old gracefully. I didn't recognize her.
damn i wish she would release another album
I heard a rumor - - WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HER??
Siouxsie is the reason I married a goth chick. Thank you Siouxsie!
I still think Steve was very gallant to call Grundy out for trying to put his creepy old man moves on the teenage Siouxsie.
The first (and last?) time we shall ever see Steve Jones and “gallant” in the same sentence! 🤣
Actually, Emma is quite right about Bill Grundys’ creepy old man moves and Steve spotted it instantly. As did Siouxsie. Grundy was well known at the time for being pissed during his early evening primetime shows - and this show got him well and truly fired - but if he'd said the same sort of thing today, he'd have the mass rozzers of Operation Yewtree breathing down his back demanding to know what else was going on.
Well done, Jonesey!
@@stevearkwright I'm pretty certain Sioux could have handled Grundy herself, but, Steve did the gentlemanly thing.
Siouxsie is a very underappreciated artist.
Siouxsie, if you are reading this, I am ready for that drink now....
Fabulous lady!!!!
there are plenty of songs where Kate does not have a "wailing, helium voice" want me to name them?
Love her version of Iggy Pop's "The Passenger!"
Love you, Sioux! You are a gorgeous personality!
love her seen her in belfast in 80s addicted ever since
Don"t know where to start about Siouxsie, A smart women who knew what she wanted and didn't back down!!! She is a real person, but signifies a woman who didn't take crap.
Stood up for herself and band, Remember how many women fronted a band?
An Amazing Soul, to be missed.........
timeless
we both know that's not true, but still, i agree 100%
Is there still a Punk scene in Bromley?
Queen is right! Tinderbox is easily one of the very best albums of the 80s
Queen🇬🇧🖤🇬🇧
Queen of the pop??!!WTF,I mean,she could be:queen of the post punk,punk,dark...but POP?
exactly wtf
Valeria Arguello , julia marr the clip is taken from a programme called "Queens of Pop" that features profiles of several female artists, not just Siouxsie.
Plus "pop" comes from popular - before it was hijacked in the 90's by the bubblegum music - and can be applied to any type of music
yeah fuck pop sioux is the opposite of pop
royal nass When I first read your comment I thought you were calling someone a "fuck pop"... lol! Actually- now I'm going to make it a point to call someone a fuck pop today. A friend most likely...
Sioux actually likes pop though!
Totally a one of a kind goddess,icon, and such a strong “powerful” presence ,just image wise, she causes one to gawk as ones eyes gazing at a peacock, beautiful & stunning
Siouxsie is not Pop: she was punk, post-punk, goth, alternative etc.
The show is on BBC Four in 20 minutes. It features a Variety of females from the music scene that were highly influential & not just from one genre:
Dusty Springfield, Sandie Shaw, Marianne Faithfull, Suzi Quatro, Siouxsie Sioux, Kate Bush, Amy Winehouse, Annie Lennox, Alison Moyet, Kylie Minogue, Geri Haliwell.
What would YOU have called such a programme?
Music used to have so much passion, mystery, and intensity. The subcultures were incredible and inspiring and dark too. What Is There Now?! God I miss Punk & Gothic & Rave/Electronica culture from 80's & 90's. I feel bad for the youth of today with nobody to look up to, just Emo Hipster SJW Activist phonies.
She's brilliant!An amazing entertainer and singer.All the best to you!
Yes, I remember in the summer of hate in 76', me and my mate Soss going to interview her for my fanzine Rebel Rouser, we went from Bristol - Chilslehurst and she didnt show up? her mum said "I'm sorry Susan isnt here" 6 months later we met at the Roundabout Club Newport where my band VerminX supported the Banshees, she was charming. Great Days.
There were a group of female singers around at the time notably TOYAH, LENA LOVICH, HAZELL O CONNOR ,POLYSTYRENE. who were never in the same league as SIOUXSIE but all were great in concert..I saw them all but Siouxsie has remained iconic and truely magical . Hard to believe it is over 40 yrs since SIOUXSIE AND THE BANSHEES THE SCREAM was released
Poly/X-ray Spex was around at the same time as the Banshees (both initially forming in late 1976) but the others were 2-3 years later
'I Love Siouxsie Sioux and The Banshees from their first album, The Scream, which I bought as a young Punk in 1979 at the age of 17 and all their albums up to Tinderbox, from where I lost them for a while, only because I'd stopped buying any music for a while. I still love their music. Great little video, thankyou. I enjoyed this very much.'
oh siouxsie siouxsie siouxsie sioux i love you
Siouxie is the soundtrack of my YOUTH and is ETERNAL in my HEART :)
siouxie and kate bush around at the same time--we didnt know how luck we were!