40K Lore For Newcomers - Who Are... The Raven Guard? - 40K Theories
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- This episode of 40K Lore for Newcomers takes a look at a Space Marine chapter known for being the preeminent masters of stealth and infiltration; the Raven Guard.
Featuring additional narration and the voice talents of:
The Fresh Sorcerer as Corvus Corax
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And HulkyKrow as Kayvaan Shrike
Intro theme by Stringstorm
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The space marine chapter that operates under the assumption that surgical strikes on enemy weakpoints and assassinating critical leadership figures is the ideal way to wage war; by ending it as quickly as possible.
Otherwise known as the "Sensible" Astartes.
The Reasonable Marines*
@@bobross9581 Those are different guys.
@@BobExcalibur I was making a joke
Black Library simply lacks the authors who can convincingly represent their way of war. Gav Thorpe does a very good job in the Horus Heresy books, but George Mann who deals with 40k Ravens isn't as good IMO.
Complete waste of power armor if you ask me. They just have a hard on for the officio assassinorum.
Corvus: "Force without justice is tyranny."
Konrad: "I resent that. My brand of tyranny involves both force AND justice, thank you very much!"
Corvus: "The fact you blew up your own home planet out of spite doesn't exactly make you a credible expert on the nature of 'justice.'"
Konrad: "Nonsense! What could be more 'just' than treating everyone to equal levels of orbital bombardment?"
I mean corax nuked the planet his moon orbits
@@commissarlugh1040 that was war and the planet didn't ceased of existing or being inhabited
Vulcan: KONRADDDD!!!! "Proceeds to squeeze Konrad like his name was George."
This conversation should be in TTS.
"What could be more 'just' than treating everyone to equal levels of orbital bombardment?" Happy to admit I lol'ed. I'm going to have to remember that one
Its sad that there is a major underappreciation of the fact that the Raven Guard are actually super nice guys even if fatalistic. Sure they may not equal the Salamanders in this aspect, but they are a close second, especially with their tendencies of protecting the weakest and forgotten
On the flip side, they will and do purposefully sacrifice Guardsmen units in the name of victory as preserving lives isn't their primary concern. Winning is. I would rank them behind Salamanders, Blood Angels, and even Ultramarines on friendliness to mortals because of that.
Especially my man Kayvaan
It's almost like they are the saviors of the broken, the beaten, and the damned.
Sorry to be offtopic but does any of you know a method to log back into an Instagram account?
I was dumb forgot my login password. I would appreciate any help you can give me
@Nathaniel Caspian instablaster :)
"...Alpha Legion double-agents..."
Bit redundant there.
Just like their Primarch(s).
An Alpha Legion double agent is an alpha legion chaos marine masquerading as a loyal marine of another chapter who is actually a loyal alpha legionnaire
At this point, they might as well be quadruple agents.
@@johnivanoplimo5172 I love how when Ultramarines went to kill Alpha Legion in the aftermath of horus heresy, the Alpha Legion dug in their homeworld and painted their armors blue. A boatload of Ultramarines died to friendly fire, no-one knew who was who, and finally when the Ultramarines pushed into Alpha Legion's core camp... well, Alpharius came to fight Guilliman one on one. And Guilliman oneshot Alpharius, who was the size and shape of one of his normal marines.
Best of all, Guilliman thought he had killed alpharius, but he just killed a Alpha legionnaire sergeant whose soul had been lit by Alpharius to make him 'feel' like his primarch. And Ultramarines retreated from the planet soon after, breaking the planet's crust with orbital fire while the rest of their fleet, which had oddly grown more numerous since the invasion, left the system.
Or dedundant?
Just want to say, this beats literally any kind of content for relaxing and fulfilling youtube commentary. I've already read every 40k wikia that exists, but somehow this channel continues to be a valuable take on the same information. Thank you 40k Theories - Thank you Remlez!
Jason Campbell - same on the relax front. I’m currently sick, and I listen to Remirez’s voice as I’m half-dozing, learning as I recover.
That beak helmet is a true rarity.
The idea is that most space marines utilize the Mark 7 variant of Power Armour. The Raven Guard use Mark 6 because 1) the armor is known as the "corvus pattern" 2) They were the first astartes to use mark 6 during the Horus Heresy, so they were the only ones equipped with it during that time.
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Interesting.
Wombles
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I'm wondering if in 40k someone doesn't replace the beak's comms with flowers or something like in the dark ages all a sudden.
I have a 10,000+ pt Raven Guard army and there is nothing but beakies on the lot! VICTORIS AUT MORTIS!
I liked that Raven Guard ships during the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresy utilized unorthodox shields that rendered them invisible. The pursuing Traitor Legion Fleets had to blind fire in an effort to destroy Covus Corax's fleeing battle barge; a tactic that failed because Angron was lacked patience and Perturabo had the biggest cannons that fired too slowly.
7:15 "reducing the warriors within the legion to a mere 80,000."
just hearing that puts a big dumb grin on my face. theres something about the absurd scale/numbers of 40k that i love so goddamn much.
why? for a semi Galactic Civilisation, 80.000 of anything is basically nothing. Except MAYBE planets.
New to 40K and this is awesome. The lore is so deep and compelling.
In a nutshell: Ravens and crows led by a shaggy plate clad pelican that writes poems about birds and super death birds.
Fun fact, according to one of the Heresy novels, Corax isn't a fan of poetry.
@@jacklang3314 Lol fucking Text to speech.
@@jacklang3314 Next you are going to tell us Corax did not set up a nest in the Engine of Woes.
Armored mecha do Super Deth Birds inhabit The Super Warp?!, is Malal behind Nu Metal?, that would explain why Wes Borland from Limp Bizkit looked the way he did!
@@poodlescone9700 The engine doesn't judge, it only hates.
Favorite loyalist chapter!
Learned recently that Konrad and Corax didn’t get along so well
Which is surprising really considering the two of them
Corax didn’t like him much since he saw Konrad as what he could have been in a sense
"Thought without action is useless; action without thought is dangerous". This quote is attributed to Confucius, and it's good to see it's still being applied in the 40K universe (albeit in a different form).
No one asks how the Raven Guard or why the Raven Guard.
But everyone wonders: Where is Raven Guard.
Who do the Raven Guard?
Actually why not have raven jokes beyond that never more thing?
When is the Raven guard ?
@@counterstructure4908 inside the walls, most likely
Iam not sure about these guys sneaking prowess.
Seriously the're primarch Corvus Corax was outsneaked by a TOAD !!!!
Give the man a rest, he was stuck in a trunk for ten thousand years.
Tacoguy1000 but hes still a Primarch
To be fair it was a toad from katachan
Infinity Knight Rev Yea? Well, his brother who happens to be one of the best builder made the trunk. I think he calculated the primarch in his process.
Tacoguy1000 dorn made the trunk? Or perturabo?
you gave the raven guard some love. you get a like
and some cake... but the cake stealthy laying in wait somewhere
@Aesthetic Decision is not a lie... is a misdirection ;)
Invisible cake?
Pffft. I want my cake with invul. saves.
@@EungsuLee there is only one perpetual cake! and it belongs to the salamanders chapter XD
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Perpeptual cake? No, no, not something that extravagant.
I just want a very tanky cake.
@@EungsuLee something close to an ancient cake entombed in an iron tuperware?
It always amuses me the thought of space marines employing stealth... they’re not exactly small and subtle, and I can’t imagine power armour being silent!
Don't let the new 'emo fringes' fool you. These Astartes were preeminent in warfare that MAKES SENSE and had no shortage of deeply talented combatants through out its history. Corax was amongst the best all around Primarchs in strategy as well as personal combat. (Ref. Beating Horus in a spar and Guilliman in a chess like game)
If you read deep into their symbols they are reminiscent of early American culture.
They nod to Native American cultures with their Raven symbolism/motifs, Edgar Allen Poe, and even the combat style of the Revolutionary army. I could be wrong to some extent but that's what I get from them.
So your saying there the same as a writing desk ???
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I don't get your meaning, pilgrim.
@@djevisceration2733 just type "raven and writing desk" into the imperial database (commonly called Google) and I'm sure all we become clear brother..
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Only with google DID I get that. Never read Lewis Carrol.
@@djevisceration2733 I'm glad the database was not corrupted for you.
Absolutely love the Raven Guards motto at the start of this video
I want a Raven Guard and Gaunt’s Ghosts team up novel.
Yessss that would be amazing
*SNEAKING INTENSIFIES*
The Raven Guard is one of a very few Chapters that _acts_ like it's a thousand men against overwhelming odds who have to make an impact with every deployment, and it's a big part of why I love them
Not new to 40k, but I love running your videos while I am painting.
Thank you so much for doing these chapter focused videos. They have quickly become my favorite 💖
Basicly Edgar Allan Poe , every millennials depression blended together and you get the raven guard
Hmmmm, no...
There’s also a lot of Iroquois Native American influences there... which makes it uncomfortable that they’re all super pale 😬
40k Lore for New Comers: Who Are... The Ravenguard? Captions enabled: [Bird Noises]
I'm not generally a big fan of the primaris, but gw could really win me over with them by giving the ravenguard some unique units, like stealthy boy primaris with long range rifles like the eliminators or the option of a unique close combat weapon and suppressed bolt pistols that can strike, disappear and redeploy.
I think it could be very fluffy while being strong, with a small surgical elite army that's hard to kill because of stealth and hard hitting if deployed correctly.
Despite knowing all of the first founding chapters, I really like these introduction videos, refreshing when I spend too much time fanboying over salamanders
Ah yes the emo birdie bois
Not the emoist birdiest boys though, the Ravenwing takes that title
We are not emo birds
@@imperialfist4ever490 make peace with blood raven go get you some good shit and be sneaky like like the legendary soldier of old terra name Solid Snake.
@@imperialfist4ever490 yes we are
Great video. Would enjoy more of these about the original chapters. Very enjoyable
Everyone asks: What is the Raven Guard?
But no one asks: How is the Raven Guard? 😔😭😔😔😩
Would it not have made more sense to have Corax be found as a billionaire industrial magnate, who has an awkward relationship with his non related ward, a vaguely British Butler, and a penchant for inventing peculiar armors, vehicles, and non lethal weaponry he keeps on a fancy belt?
The Emperor was a New Romantic, Konrad was a Goth Kid, Corax was EMO.
Leman Russ was Metal, Sanguinius was Baroque and Angron was Thrash, while Fulgrim was just Fabulous!
Fulgrim was Glam Rock
40K Theories Thank you, now I have this vision of The Necrons being behind KraftWerk!…(glares at Chaos Android figures I kept a from Space Crusade suspiciously)…
P.S.
Magnus was into Folk Rock…which explains why the Blood Ravens have the complete back catalogue of Steeleye Span in their vaults!.
@@Maxibon2007 Vulcan = Dragonforce (Through the Fire and the Flames)
Rogal Dorn = Pink Floyd (The Wall)
Horus = Micheal Jackson (Bad)
@@40KTheories Fulgrim was technical prog
Go Ravens. Victory or death. Hope Corvus Corax comes back soon.
He will be back he is currently on a road trip with Vulcan
@@tylerghersinich576 beware of Clancy
@@YeagerBomb-ww3bn not clancy he is a really nice guy. Always smiling it gives this grim dark universe some light, happiness and hope
@@tylerghersinich576 *Proud Attila Stands!*
According to the "Sons of the Emperor" Anthology chapter "Shadows of the Past", Corvus was still in the warp some time after the heresy, and will probably not come back from it... that doesn't mean he is dead though, oh no. Lexicanum, the Warhammer 40k wiki, put it this way:
"At some point he became mutated by the powers of the Warp, turning into a creature made of darkness and shadow itself. Using his new abilities, Corax wreaked havoc on a Word Bearers Daemon World in the Eye of Terror. Far beyond the abilities of average Word Bearers, the Daemon Primarch Lorgar himself appeared before Corax and the two engaged in a vicious duel. Corax managed to dominate the battle, forcing Lorgar to retreat and close the portal he had arrived from. As Lorgar vanished, Corax vowed that he would hunt down and slay the Daemon Primarch."
Note that will Lexicanum states that he became "mutated" by the powers of the warp, he was *NOT* recognized as something daemonic by Lorgar. Corvax literally said that the primarchs, underneath all their human facade and superhuman bodies (... that they got from big E... with help?) were nothing less than creatures of the warp.
I believe their "modern" problems with the Raven Guard geneseed were an early attempt by GW to explain their proficiency with the kind of warfare that produces the fewest losses, but because we now know of Istvaan and their travails during the Heresy, it's a bit redundant, and it also doesn't make sense as Terra should have preserved their original geneseed that didn't significantly degrade due to Corax's experiments.
In my head canon, while the Raven Guard geneseed deteriorated a bit over time, it remains as good as that of any other First Founding chapter. The long time that they spend training in the Scout company and the autonomous and wide-ranging nature of their Companies mean that they still fight understrength more often than other Chapters (as it's harder for them to send replacements) and they're okay with that.
I come here before Sneaky Beakie can wake up
I belieave Corvus had the same voice as in the TTS.
A very extremely awesome video as always 40k Theories.
The Emprah's sad bois
13:49 I LOVE that guy’s mask!
Not gonna lie "Raven Gaurd" sounds like a 90's metal band which is actually kinda fitting
It's just...they were used for covert assassinations on rebellious human worlds? Even assuming they're not wearing their power armor how covert can an 9 foot tall man be?
Ask Jason Vorhees
Teleporters? Also, it might not work very well in cities, but can you imagine them in the forest? They’re about the size of a grizzly bear, and bears are incredibly sneaky when they want to be.
Have you SEEN the Phobos Primaris?
"Wraith-Slipping"
Described as being a combination of mental discipline and martial art, the process of "wraith-slipping" is to take advantage of one's surroundings to conceal one's presence. This is not a psychic power but rather a collection of disciplines and techniques that the Raven Guard use to conceal their visual and aural presence despite their use of power armour. It is a technique that is described both prior to the outbreak of civil war in the Horus Heresy[28] and up to the 41st Millennium[24a].
from the lexicanum
Pair wraith slipping/shadow walking with Phobos armour (silenced servo motors) and rigourous stealth training for Neophytes and you end up with stealthy marines
Being an Edgelord in the 40k universe is almost impossible. They do it though, bless their dark hearts, these pale heroes out “Grimdark” the warp itself.
No mention of Shrike crossing the Rubicon Primaris after becoming Chapter Master? A bit surprising. But still an amazing video. The newest Codex supplement has me strongly considering picking up a Raven Guard force.
It's because this video was recorded and uploaded before that information dropped, so I wouldn't have known about it at that time, sorry.
@@40KTheories No apology needed, your channel and videos are amazing. 👍
I'm not a new comer, and I did not know much if anything of the raven guard... Thank you for that info.... The Emperor protects
yeah I can see the Raven guards have a lot of bad luck in their history yeah they're still kicking
Love the video! Hope we get one on the Alpha Legion soon! :D
That painting is sicker than a plague zombie
Corax hated the way the Night Lords conducted war, but it seems the Ravens adopted a lot of the NL tactics. I wonder how Corax would feel about that.
That Corax quote at the beginning is a paraphrase of Robespierre. Tell me more
Me being a simple Krieg Guardsmen, ill necer understand who youre suposed to be stealthily in power armour
You have never been snuck up on by a grizzly bear. Same size, but I can tell you from real experience that you won’t hear them coming, and probably won’t see them unless you’re actively looking.
Labyrinth of Sorrow!!! When they clear a path for the Minotaur's. Against the Spawn of Nurgle!
Special Mentions:- The Blight Drone that explodes that Bile Acid on the Minotaur! And the fight with the Half Terminator with Tentacles.
The Ravens sneak in Ripping Traitor Marines and minions, so the others can Rescue the Librarian. Lots of Blasphemous Forms, Lots of Slashing n Heavy fire in this story. 2 different ways of fighting between the 2 chapters.
Great story! Great sound effects! Necrotic Flesh!
Other Great Audio Books:- Thousand Sons or the Thorn n Talon stories!
I thought Labyrinth of Sorrow had the Brazen Minotaurs as opposed to the Minotaurs?
@@40KTheories The Same thing. Brazen Minotaurs Minotaurs.
Great video like always! I have a question that you may have a great answer too. What would the Imperium do if they found the machine City from the Matrix? Would they straight out destroy it or let the adeptus mechanicus study it? The machines would see it has no chance so would they be willing to join the imperium? I know the imperium have a bad history with machines but would the machines let them study the machines? Sorry if I used wrong fractions names, WH40K is still confusing to me.
ReclaimerforaSithLord IG artificial Intelligence is considered tech heresy because of some stuff that went down during the dark age of technology so they would properly destroy it
Thanks for the answer:)
Sneaky Edgar Allan Poe Bird Boys
Awesome video! The Raven Guard it's my favorite chapter.
Yessssss, it is time for the Beakie Bois
Their Primarch is essentially 40K Nightwing. (If Konrad Curze is 40K Batman) | 3:55 - Ursh was possibly under the influence of Khorne. | 6:12 - Well, the Space Wolves will exclusive have Helfrost weapons sometime after the Emperor arrived. | 10:07 - He'll probably find Leman Russ as he was heading in the same general direction.
You should read 50k the shape of the nightmare to come
Remleiz. I am a long time viewer and recently returned to binge this new 40K Lore for Newcomers series. it is great, your content is always great. in my opinion it's the best content of its kind on youtube.
HOWEVER,
for the Emperor's sake, stop overusing the word "would" when discussing events that happened at the time. "would" in this context is used to indicate things which would go on to happen LATER, not events transpiring at the time being discussed. Holy Throne my dude learn to use the past tense properly.
again just want to say I love your channel and this is my only gripe. also I'm a big fan of all your collab projects as I've been enjoying the variety brought by having other readers narrate some of the scripts. hope you see this and take it on board
*_BIRD UP_*
Positive comment for the algorithm
I don't really care about them as a chapter but I still hold them in a place of honour cause they invented the beakie helmet which is the objectively prettiest helmet.
(Prolonged bird noise)
Can you do one for the Salamanders please? I love your videos.
Cool info.
Ahhhh the great Sneakie Beakies!
Are those beak like helmets unique to the Raven Guard?
No, but they are more commonly found within their ranks
They are from Mark VI power armor, developed during the Horus Heresy era. Also known as Corvus armor, named after Corvus Corax, as the armor was first used by the Raven Guard legion. The chapter favored the helmets and retained many of them for use on more modern power armor.
*ERRRRRRRRSH*
Belligerent bird bouncers..
You mean to tell me that a loyalist primarch purged his legion of Terrans?! I had no idea. Did any other loyalist do this?
I thing The Death Guard, and Dark Angels did something similar. The lion didn't trust many people.
Hold on, didn't the 2nd Battle of Agrellan/Mu'gulath Bay end with the Imperium launching Exterminatus on the planet after failing to retake it from the Tau?
What’s the ravens view on primaris marines, do they welcome the bolstering of their numbers or are they distrustful?
Welcomed I believe
Could you please make a video for the void dragon ctan? Sorry I don’t remember his name.😥
*DEY R DA SNEAKY GITZ!*
BUT DEY'Z BLAKK! SHOULDN' DEY BE DA 'ARDEST? BUT DEN, DA PURPLE' UNZ SHOUL' BE SNEEKY AN YER CAN 'EAR' EM COMIN' FROM A MOILE AWAY. 'UMIES ARE ZOGGIN' KONFUSIN'.
Seems fairly redundant that the Raven Guard (( 19th legion ) fights extremely similar to the Alpha Legion ( 20th legion ) , Not sure what Big E was thinking at the time...gotta run to the Arvus I left atop my hab block now as Im sure my minor Heresy has caused an Inquisitor to be sent after me .
All the legions had general redundancy in them. They all knew how to fight by any combat doctrine. They simply had preferences and specialities that are wholly unique to them.
The Alpha Legion act more as agents than soldiers. They are like the Astartes equivalent to the FBI in an abstract sense. They were best when they completely and utterly unseen. They were masters of subterfuge and knowledge manipulation. They were who you sent in to weaken the power bases through spies, informants, and even potentially puppet authorities.
No one did this better.
The raven guard are the gold standard of guerrilla warfare and covert operations. They are like Navy seals or Green Berets more than agents like the Alpha Legion. You sent the ravenguard to strike key points in the power structure of any enemy. They would utilize spies just like the alpha legion, but unlike them, who would whittle the core of their enemies power away, the raven guard struck fracture points as soon as they became known.
The end result of either legions methods is the same, and the final method of ending the conflict may even be the exact same(an assassination, informants leading to critical information being exposed, etc) but the overall strategy either of the legions would have used to achieve this was unique in many many ways
Unless they are psykers I find the idea of a stealthy Astartes to be absolutely insane
It’s hinted at, but I don’t think we’ve had anything confirmed.
@@Zakvadr1995 Corax can apparently transform into a flock of birds and literal shadows ... Sounds pretty magical but as for the rest of the dudes idk
Keep their servos clean and oiled, and they could probably be about a stealthy as a bear (same size).
Bears can move absolutely silently if they want to, and in the forest at night... the Guard can see you with Auspex, but you can’t see them.
In the city, sneaky marines are a joke. In the wilderness? You’re dead
pigspigs76 I think it was in the book Overfiend, the Raven Guard had to “Attune” to the shadows so they could sneak around Eldar with a Farseer and attach Melta charges to their speederbikes in the middle of their encampment. Without them noticing. That sounds like Warp-Fuckery to me.
@@Zakvadr1995 That, or they spent time calibrating their gear. Turning off unnecessary systems, underclocking certain subsystems, and making sure their armor was the right shade of black.
You should try your version of the Black Templars
Okay. Now I have to admitt it.
I don't like Corax, but his sons...
His sons are amazing.
*CAW CAW MUTHAFUKKAZ*
*Brandishes Lightening Claws* Victorous Aut Mortis
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*Pecks furiously with beakie helm*
이응수 *kills you..all stealth like*
great work
Just the idea of one of this guy's going "full ninja" in all that armour an weapons....
*Clink...clink...clink*
"Who's there..."
/Silence/
*Cough* "no one" *Cough*
*Pew...pew...pew...........BOOM*
*Clink...clink...clink*
Dun...dun...dun.... Another slinks away....dun...dun.... dun....
They are about as stealthy as a bear. Sure skulking on the street may not be very effective, but in rural areas they are very sneaky. When they bother being actively sneaky anyway.
Like the art work
wait lemme et this straight, they are super human size and are used for infiltration and stealth ?
hey guys you think it is weird that the new guy is 3 meters tall, you know like the guys we fight against ? I am sure it is fine.
Less “I am one of you” infiltration and more “I am in your compound, silently stabbing your patrol guards and disabling your turret guns before the main assault”. They don’t blend into the crowd, they blend into the shadows.
Their armor is specially designed for noise-muffling, and covered with special light-absorbent paint. With those advantages, extensive training, and the cover of night? You’re screwed.
A little bit of the expertise of several legions like Alpha Legion, The Rout, Night Lords and a little Smurfs but not NEAR good enough at anything to be effective.
Jack of all Trades
Masters of NONE.
Where you just watching a different video or just werent listening? These guys are the absolute MASTERS of Stealth! Imagine a mountain of modified flesh wrapped in a ships worths of steel just vanishing before your eyes, making you unsure if such a being ever stood before you. Its called a Wraith Step and they are the only entities to Master it!
Ah yes, the glorious Robuuté Guilliman
They are like (space marine) guards, but Raven. Hope I have clarify this question.
Basicly, emo buff boi who think they are bird.
Brilliant
Please, someone explain how exactly; with all these defects; the Raven Guards geneseed is considered stable?
Because they aren't vampires, werewolves or traitors
The RG gene seed is deficient and has a high failure rate, but the issues it has are predictable, the same every time, and mostly under control. When an aspirant astartes fails to take the RG gene seed it is like rejecting an organ transplant, but not because they mutated to death. And there are no major mental or physical ailments residing within the gene seed. The raven guard look funny, but to no ill effect. They act emo, but that's a cultural thing. The lost some astartes organs, but it's always the same ones missing in each new marine.
OOOoaa~ Perfect.
Ravin' Guard...
Ah, the Raven Guard. The sneakiest of all possible beakies.
decimated means loose 10% not 90% I know its s small thing but words have meanings.
Technically that only applies to its historical meaning, as the modern definition means to "kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of."
9:31 double agents? double agent implies they were playing both sides which they were not. they were not spying on the Alpha Legion on behalf of the Raven Guard.
A double agent pretends to be working for one side by really working for another. These Alpha Legionnaires pretended to be loyal until it was time to sabotage the project.
How can they be masters of stealth in full body armor? I would expect these things to make a lot of noise when they walk.
Which is why their the masters of stealth.
What about the Blood Ravens ?
"Never more" said Corax. This phrase sounded 2 times! Will never serve again under Horus? Did he mean this when he left for Warp? But Horus was dead at that time, curiously ...
"Nevermore" will I fail my Legion. He was desperate to replenish his Legions numbers and did, what only the Emporer had done before him, modify the Gene-Seeds. He wanted to speed up the process of adapting a Neophytes to the various genetic augmentations so as to speed up the forming of new Astartes. For a while it looked like it worked, too! But then ( And it is rumored that various Warp Entities had their hand in this) some Neophytes mutated uncontrollably, they grew gigantic and disfigured, growing new and grotesque limbs. Some lost their minds, becoming nothing more than jibbering, howling beasts, others still held onto their minds. These mutants, those that kept their minds are still regarded as honored brothers and part of the Raven Guard and even are fitted with custom armor to fight with their Brothers! But even the mindless ones that survived are still locked up in a cellar... Corvus Corax, who felt responsible for all this was crushed by this. For a whole year, he locked himself in his Tower not speaking a single word before leaving for the Eye of Terror. "Nevermore" was his first spoken Word after a Year of Silence and his last, a Vow, a Warning, a bitter Good Bye...
"UUUUUURRRRRRSSSSSHHHHHH!!!!!" :D
Yes bird like freedom
Incognito Marines
I found my 3rd edition space marine codex the other day it's funny cous it still talks about legions being only 10,000 an chapters of a 1000 at full strength. Personally I prefer these numbers cous it makes them seam so so so much more hardcore doing the stuff they have with only a tiny fraction of the numbers they have now, but obviously the scale of battles they have now an have had would not be possible with such tiny numbers lol...
Dey'z da most literal beakies.
3:58 "Earsh"?
So.... is there any connection between Raven guard and Blood raven ?
The best theory that's come up a few times is that the Blood Magpies are actually descended from loyalist Thousand Sons
@@weldonwin Maybe but whenever Blood Raven is in the area, the artifact is always suddenly missing.
That is lv100 sneak skill.