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- From the deep space station from which they take their name, the Citadel Council serves as the preeminent center of the Galactic Community. While not all choose to recognize their authority, the Asari Republics, Turian Hierarchy, Salarian Union and Systems Alliance have united their respective nations into a force that cannot be ignored.
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We have dismissed that claim.
Man I wish you to do another off your "Reimagened" videos maybe of the Unsc of Halo of the COG of Gears of War
Life-sized replica, i assume
Can you make a video on the Votan Collective or VC from Defiance?
Ah yes, the “Templin Institute.” The group of interdimensional observers and archivists set on investigating alternate worlds. We have dismissed that claim.
You dear sir,deserve all the likes
S: Wait and they believe you?
L: Of course (mumbling: Meatbag)
The last part really doesn't fit the context of what you just said, but I'll add on:
Shepard: Oh? Well here's one of their top field agents in the flesh... Well, I suppose more in hologram form but you'll get the idea.
*holographic image of whoever narrates now appears on Omni-Tool*
@@marcusblackwell2372 council: this only shows a human. And not this so called institute.
ME1: The Reapers are a myth!
ME2: We have dismissed that claim.
ME3: The Reapers are devastating our world, crap!
Also ME3: Council was preparing, but had 0 intel to work on and could not trust Shepard, so they kept preparations hidden.
ME3 was more like devastating everything you know... alive
@@Mandemon1990 Pretty much only the Human Alliance and the Turian Hierachy prepared for the Reapers' arrival and that was thanks to Garrus and his father. As for the Human Alliance, they mobilised the fleet before the Reapers were able to reach the Sol System and Admiral Hackett and Anderson actually listened to Shepard's warning. Unfortunately they were no match for giant lobsters capable of destroying dreadnoughts with a single shot.
@@mingQWERTY Meanwhile, salarians build entire fleet of geth dreadnoughts and asari tried to pul las much info as they could from the beacon.
And yet, for all the preparations anyone did, only Hierarchy was able to even stand. Alliance folded in like 5 minutes into the assault.
@@Mandemon1990 Well in defense of the Alliance, Harbinger wanted to knock the humans out of the war first because of Shepard. And frankly, I don't blame the Reapers.
Those Salarians and Asari though... lucky bastards. Hid away from the war until hell shows up at their gates.
*Sovereign invading the Citadel.
Council: "Ah yes, the 'Reaper threat'. We dismiss those claims."
They are politicians, not scientists. They just thought Sovereign was a large Geth ship. They have the same architectural designs.
Not defending them, but its not like they are smart.
Those people deserve to suffer a lil
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I wouldn't say same but they are very similar. Geth Ships remind me of Cuttlefish whereas Reapers look similar to other Molluscs but they're more like a Squid
"I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite channel on TH-cam."
I think the voice actors are on Cameo...maybe thisnis a thing that can be done!
You say that to every channel, dont you? I sure as hell said it to every shop xD
He actually apparently has no strong feelings one way or the other, judging by the outro.
Is that a JoJo reference? 🤔
Wish I thought of that one 😉 🖖
"But the Citadel Council has dismissed such claims"
10/10 on the reference
The Citadel Council: "In order to gain membership, you must integrate into galactic society and law, must show respect for our ancient customs, must be responsible galactic citizens, and must be cosmopolitan in outlook."
Humans: "Don't know about all that noise but my military is massive and aggressive. Aliens are kinda dumb, also I will ignore galactic law when it suits me, especially in regards to genetic engineering and AI."
The Citadel Council: "You're hired."
Power is its own diplomacy
@@shadowlord1418 "Sometimes diplomacy requires a little saber rattling." -Captain Kathryn Janeway
Uh, the requirements for the Council are very clear: you need to have both the economy and military power to provide aid to species who need it. That’s why the Volus aren’t a Council race despite building the galactic economy, they’d hadn’t fought a war since before they achieved space flight
Humans: "I like your funny words, Magic man!"
A little edit to the human one.
"Also, we saved all y'all's asses from complete destruction."
In Mass Effect Legendary Edition, the original Councilor's names are divulged as early as the first game through subtitles. In the original trilogy, they were only named in Mass Effect 3 by Udina during his assessment of their temperaments provided they survived the first game.
Oh we were suppose to let them live?
@@sliccthedestroyer1881 🤣🤣🤣
The Reapers are an Outside-Context Problem.
The Citadel can handle a rogue Spectre Agent with an army of killer-robots at his back.
It could barely handle one rogue Spectre Agent who served as the herald for a mind-controlling, techno-organic Eldritch Abomination with superior technology that can instantly takeover all government functions & FTL travel within known space.
Ahh, yes. "Reapers." I thought we had dismissed that claim.
Ah yes, the Citadel Council, who believe they are competent politicians.
We have dismissed that claim.
When have politicians ever been competent in fiction or real life?!
They have kept peace for over thousand years. That's a lot more competent than anything we have.
@@Mandemon1990 Asari and Turian fleets did that
@@paulromero2937 And who are on the Council again?
@@Mandemon1990 Not commander Shepard, that's for sure
Ah yes the Council. The seat of government of an interspecies intergalactic policy known as Citadel Space. We have dismissed that claim
"Ah Yes, Reapers, We've Dismissed That Claim"
Top 10 Last Words Before Disaster
Getting meer right there on the end was the cherry on top
I always save the Citadel council. Because their usefulness as a meatshield outweight their uselessness as a government body.
I always save the Council because they happen to be aboard the Destiny Ascention.
I saved the Destiny Ascension with her crew, it just so happened to have the council on it.
Well over a decade later and "Ah yes..." memes are still in style!
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
Ah the Council, an inept organisation that nearly allowed the Reapers to destroy all life in the Milky Way.
I thought we dismisses that claim?
The most inept organization of a galactic government I have ever saw before.
Even Star Wars incompetent Republic and Empire are better than this pathetic excuse of an oligarchy.
LOL
"I hate politicians"--Ashley Williams.
I always go Paragon with the Citadel Council
[Opens a video link about the Citadel Council]
[hangs up]
I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite video about the Citadel.
There should have been a new quest after the Collectors Base mission (introduced in the Legendary Edition) where Shepard is holding Harbringer data and eventually decides to show it to the Council along with all other evidence. The Alliance would also have to allow A/K to look for that Reaper cannon and assign them to an anti Reaper mission.
The Mark Meer cameo!
I like that bit with Commander Shepard at the end.
I'm very curious where the line is drawn between Citadel Council law and the laws of individual species. The Turians still have their Primarch, the Asari their matriarch's, the Salarians their dalatrasses and the Humans have the Alliance Parliament. Where do the laws of these individual governments end and the Council laws begin.
My theory is that it might function similarly to the European Union, I could be way off base though.
A government for trillions of people across the galaxy, run by just 4 unelected people who have nebulous powers and term limits. Sounds like a great system.
It seems that the confederation of species is so loose that the Council effectively has no power except in Citadel space. Yeah, they make laws for the members of the alliance, but when someone disregards those laws or just peaces out, 99 times out of 100 the Council shrugs and moves on.
They are the space UN: mostly incompetent and powerless but everyone wants to be a part of their club because otherwise they get weird looks and stop getting invited to parties.
@@renkol123 they are more powerful than the un since they have specter
Which is why the Federation and Stellaris government are more effective than this loonies.
@@maximussaktish Spectres who used their authority in violating personal properties and using their ranks for abused purpose such as being a-holes and bullies.
@@rogueascendant6611 im not saying they are the good guys im just saying they are more powerful than the un
There is a dialogue option that confirms that the knew but didn't even know where to begin to stop the Reaper threat. By design, their government was too bureaucratic to respond to such ambiguous threats, especially in a very short 3 years. Heck, the Asari was already lowkey trying to dig into it.
Templin Institute: casually roasting galactic organizations and authorities since [REDACTED].
I heard your reference. “Ah yes, ‘Reapers’”
I'm eager to see what you guys may do a video on for N7 day
Might I suggest the Reapers Themselves?
Or maybe the Andromeda Initiative?
Either one are good. One has a plot point left only as dlc, and the other is something I would still recommend giving a chance.
I rather burned the Citadel Council as a whole rather letting ventured in the Andromeda Galaxy and contaminating that place with incompetency and overgoing dismissal like buffoons.
Citadel Council is appointed with the smartest wisest candidate possible
Shepard: i have dismissed such claims
the voice of commander Sheperd 🤩
Factions I would like to see next:
1. The Prothean Empire - Mass Effect
2. The Batarian Hegemony - Mass Effect
3. House Bolton of the Dreadfort - Game of Thrones
4. House Tully of Riverrun - Game of Thrones
5. The Flood Gravemind - Halo
6. The Created - Halo
7. The Klum - Rakka
8. The New Founding Fathers of America - The Purge
9. Ice Nation - The 100
10. The Commonwealth - The Walking Dead
So its basically a Galactic UN Security Council
See, difference is the UN doesn't have an army.
The ME council HAS an army, they just don't fucking use it because they're IDIOTS.
Also the UN has delegates from ALL its member nations, tho by giving only some of them Veto it makes the rest little more than glorified pawns.. The council has 3 delegates and doesn't even TRY to hide the fact that all other species are just pawns.
@@thespanishinquisition4078 the army is provided by each council seat race. That is actually why a lot of the older species don't get a seat as to be a council member means you have to supply ships for the citadel navy and take part in patrolling citadel space
The council of ricks shall decide your fate.
This is amazing!
I was wondering if you've considered doing a video about the Assassins and Templar. I'd be interested in seeing that.
Mass effect was a perfect series!
However I have to question what happened to the patriarch as well as the leader of the blue suns!
Who? Zaeed? The One that Zaeed killed? Or the other two or three allegged leaders that pops during the trilogy? :D
@@umascariatuerich2014 in the official paragon story, zaeed didn't kill him!
If he did, we would have sacrificed innocent lives for his revenge!
I am absolutely amazed by the number of people who apparently didn't stick around long enough to hear Mark Meer randomly show up in the last few seconds.
Hi, Templin Institute. I have a suggestion for a future video: The All Terrain walkers of Star Wars, from the Republic AT-TE (my most favorite walker of Star Wars) to the Imperial AT-AT and the First Order's AT-M6.
Check out Spacedock. They specialize on ships and equipment more than organizations. They've covered your walkers
Citadel was outright *cruel* towards the Quarians
You have to look at them realistically to punish entire species like krogans or quarians for things that 300 or 1000 years ago is silly, the punishment of the ancestors is a pretty silly cliche and the city council turned it into pure racism centuries. I would understand their deal if that was more or less recent, but since the culprits of everything that happened died many century ago, that makes the advice pretty stupid for me.
@@elxenologoimperial184 to be fair most if not all krogan talk about how they'll start war all over gain if they ever got cured. Hell wrex even agreed that a cure would just cause a problem again andi only trusted the krogan because he managed to take control and start a new cultural age for them. The quarins are a bit more difficult as while they don't deserve to be punished they tend to be or rather their government tends to be rather dickish with other species and has often stolen resources from sectors and even outright antagonised the turian navy. Though mostly it is flotilla quarins that tend to be stand offish while quarins that have left the fleet or stay in turian space tend to actually be rather well received heck living in terminus space or it's edge is often much better lives lived than with the fleet
@@Phantom6.6.6 Not really the thing is that it was more than 1000 and 300 years ago and the council continues with the same. I have read all the extended material including andromeda novels and really the turians never treated them with dignity and garrus even in mass effect 1 , his character was openly racist against krogans and quarian. In mass effect the social rights are more reached in many areas but in general they are also much more backward
also the quarians live better in the fleat than in termynus or in the council space throughout the saga that is something that was consistent. Even in comics Tali herself almost died thanks racism in the council space, the council does not treat them as persons at all and her bad opinions about the council have foundations.
Keen himself tells you that Terminus is hell and that he wants to leave It place, with lia'vel we saw how even the police harassed them.
The Citadel Council reminds me of the UN.........do I need to explain any further?
At least the Council doesn't actively instigate wars and not as corrupt but they are both inept.
No
IT does not. The council and UN provide two very different purposes. The UN is a permanent location for countries to negotiate at, and talk. They make no formal decision. The Council rules all of council space with huge amounts of autonomy given to its members. But, it does make laws and regulations. Very different.
@@servicerifle16 True, but I'd argue about the first statement due to the very existence of the spectres
@@Econ1991 I'd say the Council uses Spectres more to end or prevent wars rather than starting them. Though they aren't above using them to do things the Council doesn't want to be attached to.
*AIR QUOTES INTENSIFIES*
Ah yes, The Council... [DISCONNECT]
"Your in this Council, but we do not grant you the Status of a Member." - Citadel Council maybe.
"I don't need this"
Hey could you guys make an episode on the Inquisition from Warhammer 40K? I really like how you guys have handled your Warhammer stuff.
I wanted the Mass Effect council to vote on full blown in game space combat but they voted it down.
Did they really get Mark to do a voice line for this?!?
Recently play mass effect legendary edition. And the council was most annoying part in part 1 and 2
We have a literal reaper attack citadel and they were like "there is no evidence reaper exist"
I think it was more that they didnt think there were more, or were actually coming as they only fought 1. But, yea they were stupid.
Mass effect videos? More mass effects videos? Fuck yeah count me in!
Alot of the games dont show the nity gritty so the extra stuff and fan headcanons often make more sense. (If i can find the fanfic I read that was super in depth with a more realistic humanity and response to the reapers I'll link it.)
Ah yes, an informativ Video about our "incompetence"
We have dismissed that claim.
Or the UN in space!
I like this channel
Thank you the English subtitle.
HAHA! You got the man himself!
Just imagin what would change if Shepherd was secretly part of the Templin Institute before ME1
Ah yes “REAPERS”
I obviously don't know what other factors attribute to what the Templin institute decides to cover and I doubt that you'll be offered another sponsorship by Paradox, but would you ever consider covering the remaining factions or whatever other details you deem worthy of covering within Age of Wonders Planetfall?
Planetfall was a badass game but it just lacked something, idk what it lacked but something made it hard to get through.
The fact that development on the game was stopped and the game never really blew up, I don't think it'll get much coverage from TI. They do have to think about how their videos will be received as well as what interests them
I love the ME trilogy. But I found the Citadel Council and the Spectres to be the least believable elements. I simply can't imagine that politicians would EVER be comfortable with powerful agents who are above the law and with such long leashes.
"Ah yes, your choices matter.' The promise made by Broward that all your choices will culminate in 50 different endings. We have dismissed this claim." -- Electronic Arts, probably.
Which is worse, the Citadel Council or the Galactic Republic?
Now to wait for a video on the Citadel SpecTRes and a HiCom video on the Reaper War...
Galactic Republic. GR fell to machinations of one man and didn't even have a military, and resulted in civil war.
Citadel kept peace for thousand years and only got blindsided by outside-context-problem of Reapers, which they had 0 intel to work with.
*20 nukes go off and 5,000 civilians die*
Specter: why are you looking at me??? I had nothing to do with it!!!!
Local government: right….if you say so…..
More like "Nernerner, you can't do anything about this!"
I know im a tad late to the party but i just pledged for the citadel model 👍
You should scale the power of The citadel of ricks
[with sarcastic disdain] youre welcome.
I saved the Council
Alien:Please help! my family, plantet and race is fronting the extinction by the reapers!!
the council: wait what reapers? never hear of them that´s a lie never hapen be chill go the new favorit shop of Commander Shepard.
alien: understandable.
why does this feel like an unfinished video?!
its the first time templin leaves me with this thought...... something is missing here, or unfinished.....
Here's my pitch for you Templin Institute
You guys need a motto
I have an idea , couldn't it be
"To Observe , is To Exist" ?
The Reapers built the Relays not the Protheans. Infact it was probably the squid creatures
(for got their name) who created the reapers who built them.
Shepherd meet the last surviving one on an extra mission in ME3.
Please do the Earth Federation or Principality of Zeon from Mobile Suit Gundam.
Yeah, I only kept these guys alive to prove a point, and played nice so they had no reason to be on my back too often.
"Inter-Galactic Law"
You mean Interstellar Law.
allegedly C-sec is the best police force in galaxy but I know a turian who knows better.
How about the Citadel and the Council of Ricks?
Is the Antares Epilogue coming out?
Will the citadel model be lore accurate in size?
Well, they aren't as bad as the Galactic Republic at least...
they are almost the same or worse
Yes 🥰 ido be wedding Wednesday
Are Council members above the leaders of their respective worlds?
Basically UN
Nice
The idea of the council was always a bad idea. It seems like they're asking for accusations of xenophobia and favoritism.
I always saw the Council as an inherently evil organization.
They're an authoritarian cabal which subjects trillions to the whims of three, debatably four, people. They enforce treaties on nations which never signed them (i.e. enforcing the Treaty of Farixen on the Quarians), deny said nations an embassy until they deem them arbitrarily worthy, and have their own private army of black ops agents who run around the galaxy, answerable only to the Council (again, THREE PEOPLE!), and have carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want.
The Council claim to act in the best interest of everyone, but it's shown repeatedly throughout the trilogy that they show enormous favoritism towards the Asari, Salarians, and Turians.
They weren't founded on any sort of constitution or governing document, and there are zero checks on their authority. The rules the Council abide by are whatever rules they SAY they abide by. They hold species accountable for the actions of their ancestors for generations down the line, and if you stand up to them, they sterilize your entire race.
I think the least believable thing about the Mass Effect universe is that after thousands of years, these despotic tyrants haven't been forcibly removed from power. In my own headcanon, after the Reapers are gone, Shepard publicly calls for the immediate and absolute dissolution of the Citadel Council, replaced by a Republic of Free Worlds. Membership is granted to any nation who sign their constitution, and each nation is granted a seat in a new Galactic Congress. Should a species refuse to join, they are left to govern themselves without hostility, and are still offered an embassy to maintain diplomatic relations. While not permitted to take part in deciding RFW law, any species may send observers to meetings.
There's more to the concept, but it's far more than belongs in a TH-cam comment. TL;DR: Council bad, m'kay?
YeS
Honestly Mass effect kinda suffers from the "Stratocratic" view most military Sci Fi suffers from the ultimately idiotic idea that the Military is any less capable of incompetency as their civilian counterparts.
That would be a little too bleak for most I think. If every official authority is corrupt or incompetent, Cerberus and the like look much better in comparison.
@@redrave404 I don't see how incompetency would make them worse than "Experiment Gone wrong is the norm" Cerberus. Seriously literally almost everything Cerberus does backfires on them in some way in the games.
As for Bleakness overcoming insurmountable odds is a inherent part of Mass Effects story I don't see how a few Incompetent or craven Military officials would detract from that theme.
any1 else bothered that when referring to an alien species, 'race' is also used interchangeably? i think like calling an alien species 'race' is a misnomer. especially when someone uses both words in 1 single sentence to refer to the same group of aliens
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It seems kind of a weird point of view, since the Templin Institute is basically discussing the Council's opinion of itself and recent history post _Mass Effect_ but before _Mass Effect 3._ Most obviously in the claims that the Protheans built the mass relay network and the strong suggestion that Sovereign was a Geth platform.
Stop hoarding tech and demanding others to lay bare their own, asari!!
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Citadel was weak UNSC would kick their colective asses :D
As much as i hate the council, i could never kill them in my playthroughs of me1. Guess i am just too nice, i always went full paragon. i've done some renegade options, but never a full playthrough.
The method which species join the council is not realistic or smart at all.
You can only join by the approval of current council's unanimous vote. Meaning each time they allow a race into the council they share, ie diminish their own ruling power.
It is in the council interest to not let anyone in. Even after the battle of the citadel council wouldn't let humans in. Politics is the the game of gaining and maintaining power so you can implement your plans for your nation. Politically speaking the formation of the council a loser's game. Or in a fan theory dystopian way the council association is a system to exploit weaker races hoping to join for the council's own use.
Templin institute please do a mass effect re imagined video series where you discuss such matters.
The council did nothing wrong.
Day 936 of asking for a Metal Gear Solid video
*"I am Commander Shepard and they are not my favorite council"*
At least they'll bang, I mean go out with the bang 😂
Have a decentralized galactic government consisting of embassies on every member capital/planet: Small brain.
Building a galactic government center in unclaimed space as a joint effort of all members: Medium brain.
Using an ancient space station with unknown features that could be activated at any time and crewed by mysterious creatures which may or may not have ulterior motives: Big brain.
Ikr? This species of aliens especially Asari are just the worst kind of extraterrestrial government out there in the mass of sci-fi fics.
@@rogueascendant6611 lol mind reading mono gendered space witches can totally pull off democracy better than any human one come on
An idea I came up with recently and wish had been an actual part of the Council post Mass Effect 1 is having at least one of the original councilors side with Anderson and Shepard politically. It would have at least made the Mass Effect 2 scene with them more interesting rather than keeping them as an "Ah yes, Reapers" echo chamber minus Anderson. Perhaps make it the Salarian Councilor and have him publicly side with the Turians and Asari so as not to lose political clout like Anderson did after Shepard's death, he even expresses interest in what information they have on the Reapers when Shepard initially presents Tali's evidence.
Valern would also probably be, albeit secretly, on board with curing the Krogan and repairing relations with them and the Salarians and Turians.
Cant wait for Templin to end up being attacked by Infinite Ultron when they try observing them.
Can you guys reimagine the Citadel Council to be an actually competent Council of Alien species from across the galaxy? And not the incompetent Council from the games?
It would have made so much sense if they would dismiss the ''claim'' in public to prevent panic, but in private tell you that everything was being done to prepare.
As it was made clear in ME2, bureaucracy is what plagued the Council and the Alliance. This is why so many former Alliance soldiers joined Cerberus.
Competent Council would solve more than half of the problems plaguing the galaxy long before Reaper War.
@@ProvidenceNL don't the Turian's start reverse engineering Reaper weapons to create anti-Reaper weapons?
@@vincegalila7211 and yet the only time we see it is when Garrus puts it on the SR2.