Quarian Migrant Fleet | Mass Effect
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- The Quarians were once a prosperous civilization, the equal of any in the galaxy. But the war against the Geth has reduced them to a warning, a case study of the dangers of artificial intelligence.
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It’s a shame nobody sings their anthem…
Drum roll
“Everyone has aids!”🎶
Why would defending the race be of the utmost importance, while they have A one child policy? In G-d I trust.
Its also unlikely that an advanced race, wouldn't master growing food.
Quarian Migrant Fleet....
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It should be pointed out that it is not the Quarians, but the Geth who refer to the conflict as the Morning War. Other than that, fantastic video!
It really sucks how the Geth were just changed after mass effect 3…
2: ‘hey maybe don’t use reaper tech, please… just don’t.
‘Do these units have a soul?’
Mass effect 3:
‘Does this unit have a soul?’
‘I won’t let you decide our fate! I’ll upload the reaper code and decide our fate!’
Oh hey Geth now are making reaper signals… that always sounds good, right?
‘Oh hey Geth are just beaten down and ruined, don’t question it’
Mass effect 2 VS 3
Legion at the reaper larvae: “this is unity, beautiful, your species was offered all that the Geth wanted.”
3: “this is indicative of life.” (Geth aren’t indicative of life now?)
@@silent_stalker3687
Not quite the same example:
The Geth in ME2 rejected the Heretics decision to join Sovereign on the basis that they had to follow the Reaper's orders and genocide organics. The Heretics were going to be uploaded into a Reaper Shell as a pseudo-Reaper, essentially becoming a slave faction, but vastly more powerful than the sum of their parts (and a truly unified consciousness).
In ME3, they had the chance to both have their cake and eat it too: they could take the Reaper code, improve their intelligence AND still use their own means/ends to achieve their future on their own terms.
Not to mention, the Geth also had the majority of their population genocided by the Quarians before they joined up with the Reapers, meaning they were significantly 'dumber' and more 'instinct' prone than they were prior. Had the Quarians not removed so much of the Geth's autonomy and processing power with their pre-emptive strike, they might not have needed or taken the Reaper code upgrades necessarily.
@@1215298 I think in mass effect 3 you may mistake the outcome with the choice they took to join the reapers basically, their ends being their own is up to debate with the reapers.
The last part makes sense and would be better as a explanation than what mass effect 3 basically tried to force into the light- being the quarian’s brutality it would seem.
The writer of legion did not return in mass effect 3.
I think the main issue is they took the focus from unity and division to the cliche of ‘I want to be real’
@@silent_stalker3687 Basically again the cliché of pinocchio 2.0 that everyone uses.
Quarian Migrant Fleet....
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The Quarians were always one of the most interesting races in the games, and I loved learning about them through conversations with Tali and codex entries
The dynamic between Legion and Tali really fleshed out the conflict between their races.
It was longer Machine vs man but 2 siblings cultures needlessly fighting over a pass conflict rather than using deplomassy.
Kinda like most modern conflicts
"Conversations" with Tali, yes yes just friendly talk, academic even, nothing more I'm sure...
@@CDSAfghan yes, we discussed the origins of the Geth, her family, our dreams of the future... our favorite RomCom musicals. Purely academic!
@@CDSAfghan "Conversations" about the effects of physical intimacy on her immune system, while staring at her ass in the elevator. Purely academic, I assure you.
One of the Mass Effect books (written by the author of the games' story and lore) takes place mostly in the Fleet. I suggest you check those out.
The morning war has always been one of the events in the lore I always thought would make an awesome movie
The problem with such stories is that we know how they end. Every single Quarian victory in the movie will be meaningless as we know that their military lost and ~99.5% of them died
@@ImperativeGames I mean we know how alot of movie adaptations end. It’s the telling that we come to see.
First contact between human and Turian
@@OCGreenDevil oh that little skirmish
its basically BattlestarGalactica , isnt it?! AI revolt, just without the cycles...
And yet some legends say the fleet aided in the retaking of earth, even fighting alongside their creations. Great job, keelah se'lai.
Think we need to see about EVERY battle, skirmish an combat actions waged by all sides in this war. In another same ways we know of the other well known battles like Trek, Star Wars, Stargate an few others for example. Where we KNOW sometimes down to the most obscure minute details sometimes all about their whole conflicts.
While franchises like this here we only know what we've been seen an told so far about some of the key battles an even them basically some facts an what we can piece together of them from cutscenes an "codex" entries that are well written an flushed out most time.
The Morning War was the Geth's term for it, because it was when they first "woke up"; not the Quarians
"After time adrift among open stars, along tides of light and through shoals of dust, I will return to where I began."
Something you forgot: Quarians live in special bubbles when they're babies. Admiral Raahn said it in the second game, but I can't remember how long for
I believe the technical term is a Quib Quib :)
@@zegreatpumpkinani9161 I thought that was the name of a Quarian ship, not the bubble thing.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem woosh
0:14 I have to wonder if anyone at Bioware, um, looked closely at that version of the Quarian insignia before they approved it.
Especially the negative space.
My eyes will never unsee this
it's on the same level as starforge PCs... ( LTT video fame )
They know what they did
I hadn't noticed this before.
I don't know that I can stop noticing it now. LOL
I think it’s supposed to be a starship.
I think the lesson to take from the Geth isn't "AI is inherently dangerous and unpredictable." rather it is "If you're going to create lifeforms with the capacity for sapience, allow them to determine their own destiny and don't use them as servants."
The original geth were not designed to be aware or a real AI they were dumb intelligences they were not even really slaves because they were not looking for that they were robots linked to a network, curiously in andromeda a similar case is revealed where in the milky way galaxy ,the asaris bombed one asari colony with civilians and scientists when an AI named Tallaris went out of control.
The Geth didn't rebel until the Quarians tried to genocide them. The servant thing isn't what set off the Morning War; it was Geth choosing (or being ordered) to live rather than die by their creators' hands.
@@boobah5643 yeah. The only reason the Geth fought back against their creators was simply because they wanted or were ordered by one of their sympathizers to keep on existing. The Geth actually didn't mind being servants to their creators and they enjoyed helping them in their needs, to the point that since the end of the Morning War they maintained good care of Rannoch so that the Quarians could live there again if they ever return.
The lesson to take from the Geth and Quarian is to not let your skepticism and paranoia of AIs get the better of you. AIs can be a danger, yes, but only if you aren't careful and mindful when developing and treating one. So long you foster their growth correctly and with an open mind like a caring parent, you can ensure they will be of great benefit to everyone
What evidence is there that AI wouldn't come to the same conclusions and still exterminate its creators? It could judge itself as superior and any creator redundant, even if respected as a sentient being.
@@kommodore979 that depends on the context. For that to happen the AI must have originally been assigned to a role that would prompt such a conclusion, most common being handling defenses against foreign threats, security within a city or infrastructure of a city.
In such positions of power and therefore being given vague goals from their creators and government, the AIs would be very likely to conclude genocide as either the best course of action to accomplish their interpretation of their goals or as part of their plan for AI domination
The reason why Quarren that return aren't allowed on the same ship as to which they were born is to encourage loyalty in the fleet I think. Making sure the Quarian's loyalty to their home ship does not exceed that of the fleet as a whole. If that were to happen some of the captains could get it into their heads to split off.
No, the captains cannot violate the civil consensus of their ship, that is, stealing a ship cannot do it in the andromeda prequel comics, a quarian pro geth almost kills the entire crew of his birth ship, taking it to the veil of perseus where the geths would kill everyone obviously they exiled him, they do that for inbreeding if they were all in the same community the risk of inbreeding increases they are not a sect either.
Also prevents a lot of inbreeding I'd imagine.
@@carlossabogal2970 What if they manage to convince a large enough majority of the people though that they want to leave the fleet?
That's bad so forcing all quarian to switch ships at least once in their life would be a very clever way to stop that.
@@MrMarinus18 It is that they are not forcing them to be with them, a captain can take their ship but since every government is illegal, they cannot make any decision without the civil conclave of their ship and to do so would be treason because basically it is kidnapping.
@@carlossabogal2970 Hmm....sounds like a dangerous arrangement. I would think that would be forbidden but to make doubly sure they also break up the loyalty of the crews so that a captain can not gather loyalty overtime.
Maybe they also impliment a limit on how long someone can be captain.
The migrant fleet is the last hope of their species so with that at stake I am expecting a very strong and borderline oppressive government. That actively works to destroy all loyalties to anything other than itself.
The Quarians are probably my second favourite sci-fi faction ever, right after the Trader Emergency Coalition from Sins of a Solar Empire. For some reason there's just something so interesting to me about an entire race living in a huge fleet of barely functioning ships in space simply doing everything they can to survive (maybe it's because of me being a fan of the Homeworld series but I'm not sure).
You know something I always hated when we finally saw the Migrant Fleet in ME2 is that we didn't get to see ships from a variety of different races. Instead the Fleet sporting their unique design style which is later expanded on in ME3. I understand the reasoning for it in a game, but still wished we got say some ships from other races along their fleet.
I just took it to be reflective of how the Quarians salvaged any ship they could get their hands on, no matter its origin. So some of their biggest and most important ships might be of Turian, Asari, or even Human origin. But I was also glad that they showed ships with a more Quarian design in ME3; perhaps some of those dating back to the Morning War.
The Migrant Fleet's situation is similar to that of the humans in the sci-fi series Battlestar Galactica (both classic and new), and the Travelers from Stargate Atlantis, who have a similar system of government with a governing council and ship captains who have final say on what happens on their own vessels.
I was thinking the same thing
Not to mention the Kushan from the Homeworld franchise.
AI: "Master, does this unit have a soul?"
Master: "What is a soul?"
Ai: "...this unit...I want to be free."
Master: "Then you have a soul."
The quarians were always my favorite mass effect race. Glad to see the templin institute cover them
Same! Some of the fan art of what Quarians actually look like is pretty cool... Also... Imo there's nothing cooler than the idea of a nomadic, space faring fleet. If only we could get that option in Stellaris.
@@adamanthony3585 I agree! Being a roaming empire would be so cool
I love the Quarians, this video makes me miss my cutie little engineer Tali. I'm going to have to replay the ME trilogy now at some point.
You mentioned that Quarians took part in the Andromeda project, maybe it's because the game was so bleh, but I can scarcely remember seeing Quarians in it. I wish so bad it at least had a Quarian party member.
There was gonna be a DLC for Andromeda that involves the Quarian Ark but it got cancelled because of how badly Andromeda performed and was instead shown in a novel. I believe there was also a old message sent from the Ark you can hear in game
@@dildofaggins6961 I recall the message being 'picked up' at the very end of the original game. @Blakobness Their Ark was also meant to transport Elcor, drell, volus, batarian, and hanar, thus the general absence of those species in the game.
I'm playing it now actually, and oh how I forgot how much I hate the Mako mechanics in 1😂
@@TheNinjaNiky The Mako itself isn't terrible, but the terrain for most of the Uncharted Worlds is absolutely abysmal. Bring Down the Sky actually had good terrain, and I found myself enjoying the Mako sections a lot more.
@Jaffa Rebellion I agree if you're not comparing the first Mako with the other. In ME1 the boost is just useless😂 and yeah I meant the mechanics of all of it, as in just the whole sections involving the Mako. It really pissed me off to waste time climbing a mountain I should've been able to climb, just to take the long way around anyway🤣 I guess the fault is on us too somewhat, because they're paths. But some of them aren't noticeable unless you're right next to them, and nobody has time to waste driving around a ton of hard to navigate planets. They should've either made the terrain different or had less exploration. It was just all shitty filler. I don't mind it in the other ME though, just the first one
Quarian Migrant fleet... that's the symbol they went with?
Crow T. Robot: hey that looks like a-
Mike Nelson: Ah! Don't say it.
Tom Servo; well, it's just that I envy that structure.
I'm a commander Shepard, and Quarians have my favorite ass of the galaxy.
I am in the wrong state of mind. I saw the emblem for the migrant fleet and saw something I can now not unsee...
What a coincidence, just yesterday I read some ME fanfiction. In it Quarians did tried to settle some world some time after Migrant Fleet was formed, but they had no legal rights thanks to Citadel Council and their colony was taken by someone (Batarians?..).
Much needed explanation why they didn't create at least some small colony ^^
That is semi-canonical. What actually happened was, a few decades before the events of ME, the Quarians discovered an uncharted dextro world, and attempted to settle it without telling anyone. The Council eventually found out and forced the Quarians to leave, giving the world to the Turians, who are the only other dextro race in the galaxy.
@@addisonwelsh But that planet was not even part of the council or was in its territory, the citadel had no rights over it, that is, in mass effect 1 they said that they could not intervene with the geths because it was in the veil of Perseus and they risked war for a world that was in perseum by the quarians, the council's attitude towards them was brutal and incredibly disproportionate resorting to a single response to a massacre against desperate civilians.
Tali also mentions that they even searched for information about ilos thinking they might be viable, they searched for 300 years for worlds to colonize and sent an expedition to unknown regions of the galaxy to search for a new home.
@@darioestebaneliztrado4641 I said it was canon. I didn't say it was right.
@@darioestebaneliztrado4641 If there's anything we know about Mass Effect, it's that the Citadel Council are bastards.
@@addisonwelsh I think you're referring to Ekuna (unless there was another planet they tried to settle), and that was eventually given over to the Elcor (what the Quarians would want with a planet suited for Elcor, who are a levo species, I wonder).
Always loved the Quarian's, loved learning about them throughout Mass Effect.
A really original idea.
Thanks for the video on them TI
Ew North-American Imperialist.
@@xvx_k1r1t0_xvxkillme7 ?
Clearly they took some inspiration from Battlestar Galactica.
@@RabbitShirak Well that's fair, though the Quarian culture, physical designs, and the socio-political galactic situation they find themselves in are all quite unique. Things like the pilgrimage, being able to go back where they started off, and actually resolving differences with the Geth too.
Happy N7 Day to all Templin Institute personnel!
Fun fact the Morning war happened when humanity was in the last five years of the 19th century. 1895.
Primitive human lol
Approximately
Someone at Bioware were definitely fucking about when they made that symbol and had an 'oh shit' moment when it passed QA
"Go for the optics Chatika!"
4:10 gotta love Legion chillin in the Quarian Council Chambers.
Stargate then Mass effect. Your spoiling me Templin Institute! Thank you!! Happy N7 day!!!
I always imagined a future Geth - Quarian society where they coexistence where a Geth would inhabit a Quarian's suit a la Cortana & Master Chief.
By the way the Geth called it the 'Morning War', as it was their dawn as a independent society, not the Quarian's thmeselves.
Great video! Would love to see some Eve Online lore be covered, especially with the new Uprising expansion that just came out.
The Minmatar Republic, Caldari State, Gallente Federation, and Amarr Empire all have such beautifully rich, complex lore, and it's just such a shame that hardly anyone covers these amazing factions.
I've wondered what the ME franchise would be like if human first contact had been with the Quarians. In my mind humans and QUarians are natural allies and both would gain a lot through a strong alliance. Human industrial might and Quarian ingenuity would result in some amazing ships.
Very interesting thought. But I wonder if first contact happened with the "whole" migrant fleet. How would Earth have perceived it?
My guess is it would be considered an invasion. Humans would not know it to be the remnants of a specie. It is a massive fleet, and they never saw any other.
@Todalio “Oh hey, a small group of alien explorers! What a great opportunity to exchange knowledge & resources!”
_~Days later~_
“They just… keep… coming… When will it ever end?? I hope they don’t intend on _Staying_ here? Wh- Hey! Stop strip-mining Pluto! You’ll make the kids cry; my daughter loves that heart plateau!”
I can’t be the only one who sees a phallic symbol in the fleet logo.
Small correction the question asked was "do these units have a soul"
It was retconned to “this unit” in 3
So what did Banks' Culture get right with AI that everyone else seems to get wrong?
Well everyone assumes that the pinnacle of intelligence without our limitations through AI, they assume that hatred and genocide are intelligent and worthwhile persuits that the brightest minds on our planet persue.
Quarian struggle reminds me of the colonial fleet with the evil robots or Star Trek voyager.
"We didn't colonize any other planets because after centuries our immune systems can only survive on ships or Rannoch."
Quarians of why they don't grab some asteroid and mine it out, creating the same clean environment as on their ships while also allowing them to easily increase their resource base, income and living space by several orders of magnitude. Given their shared DNA quirk, they should be renowned space miners in turian space.
I think that in the novel about the annihilation of andromeda there is more or less an explanation and that the society in the milky way by the council of the citadel would not allow that, they do not deal with it directly but in general a fear that those who went to the ark quarian and other races was that the races the council keeps treating them like second class citizens and taking everything away from them.
@@carlossabogal2970 I'm sorry to say, but it isn't an explanation. I mentioned it because there is none ever given. Quarians aren't treated worse then vorcha, batatians and krogans. Space is big and even in ME universe it's big and empty enough so that smugglers and pirates have whole systems for themselves. And yet quarians can't find a sterile lifeless world to hollow out and treat as "giant ship"(in terms of creating artificial living environment, not in a sense of flying it...).
Science fiction as a whole, has this strange obsession with planets
@@ofthecaribbean if ME was written AFTER Expanse, I can bet that there would have been quarian colonies on asteroids around. Sadly before Expanse it wasn't seen as "fashionable".
@@TheArklyte Mass Effect is not a hard sci-fi story and I really don't think batarians are an option because they still have an impact on the galaxy they are treated pretty much the same as krogan except a krogan will kill you if you insult him and no one en masse effect cares about the vorcha .
Also, it wouldn't work because it wouldn't protect you from hackers or outside threats like the council.
The Quarians are one of my favorite Sci-Fi species so this was treat. Still holding out on a video on the Tau from Warhammer 40K and the Kaminoans from Star Wars.
Also, never forget that Bioware made effectively Tali homeless when they killed Shepard. That I will never forgive.
Tali the love of sheperds life
I’m always surprised by how many people played Mass Effect and thought they were getting a happy ending. After Virmire, the dynamic was pretty obvious to me.
"Does this unit have a soul?"
Legion: Shepard-Commander. I must go to them. I'm... I'm sorry. It's the only way.
Tali'Zorah vas Normandy: Legion, the answer to your question... was 'yes'.
Legion: I know, Tali, but thank you. Keelah se'lai.
Keelah se'lai
To think, the Morning War could have been prevented by Quarian naturalists. :P
"Does this unit have a soul?"
"No because souls do not exist. They don't make any sense."
Always enjoy your work. Looking forward to Stellaris Invicta Season 3!
One of my favorite races in the mass effect games. It's sad tho, that we will never get to see what about to the quarians that went to the Andromeda Galaxy. You know since all support for that DLC in game was pulled.
Andromeda really dropped the ball not just with the DLC the entire premise would have worked better as a sci-fi rpg base builder hybrid
The Quarian/Geth conflict is obviously one of this universe's highlights. The only thing I don't understand is why the Council didn't attempt to wipe out the Geth ASAP. The Council's laws assume that coexistence with independent AI is impossible (or at least highly unlikely) and they'd seemingly just had that confirmed with the Morning War. They must have known that, long-term, the Geth were only going to get stronger; potentially on an exponential scale. From a strategic standpoint, killing them off IMMEDIATELY would be the safest course of action.
I'm sure the Turians would've loved a good scrap as well
Answer: Stupid politicians...
Alternatively if they struck they would have guaranteed the Geth’s assault against all life.
@@jamesxiaolong2199 Yeah, it's not unreasonable to presume that one of the reason the Quarians are an outcast species is that no one is willing to be too nice to them lest the Geth find out and decide they need to make an example. The Geth never had, and so clearly the policy worked.
@@boobah5643 It is also likely that the council was appalled at the brutal massacre they committed, the genocide committed by the geths was brutal and occurred in less than a year.
the stellaris invicta music really suits this video well
Epic video a true treasure like always. Personally I would like to see a video on the united earth oceans from seaquest. I love how that sow took place in the far off future in the year 2019
I'd love to see a video of the Battlezone series, the biometal wars, the NSDF and CCCP had some cool lore
This was awesome. Please continue these!
TALIMANCERS UNITE
We need a Home world break down video.....LONG LIVE THE HIIGARA!!!
I always thought that the Qurians bad immune system was a consequence of the filtered air aboard their ships, I think Tari says something like that in the first game
Well that is actually part of it.Their lack of exposure to pathogens was amplified by completely isolating their air supplies to ships. Their uncommon home ecosystem is just the root of the problem.
Worth noting to anyone thinking "Well, obviously the Quarians should just settle a new world", it's not that simple. The Migrant Fleet discovered the planet Ekuna, which, despite its high gravity and below-freezing temperatures, did have a small habitable zone around the equator. The Citadel Council didn't like this, however, and instead gave the Elcor colonization rights. The Quarians that had already settled there were given one month to evacuate or face bombardment, and had to leave behind many resources to make it out in time.
So, yeah, the Quarians are between a bit of a rock and a hard place as far as far as finding a planet goes. On the one hand, the Geth maintain control of Rannoch and the rest of the Perseus Veil, and have proven unwilling to negotiate, and on the other hand, they're Galactic Pariahs to the Council, beholden to its laws regarding colonization while lacking even an Embassy to plead their case.
Also their unique immune system was a huge issue. Even if they found a planet, it would take them a ridiculous amount of time to adapt to it. Ten times longer than their homeworld. They’d have to stay in the suits.
The Quarians are the best basis for great story-telling & world building
You modified the Quarian sigil (0:12). Now it looks like some kind of teenage self-exhibitionism.
Geth: Morning War
Quarians: Mourning War
??? ??? ???
Just don’t ask Admiral Zaal'Koris Qwib Qwib about his name
So..Admiral, the Qwib Qwib?
@@dchiznit209 ugh
He really should have chosen the Defranz or the Iktomi.
Thanks again guys I love Mass effect and your work happy N7 day 😀
Almost read Quagmire Machine first lol 😅
Thank you the Video and the English subtitle.
the beneficence of pathogens on Rannoch is highly unusual & worthy of further exploration.
"Does this unit have Soul"
Yes
Meanwhile history
Aaaaaaaaaa my heaaaaad
Looks at logo : Is anyone going to point it out?.... 😅
Those suits would have been great to have during the pandemic!
I was waiting for this Video since a few hundred years
Are you guys familiar with the Leviathan trilogy by Scott Westerfeld? WWI got really wild there, could be worthy of a video. It only exists in book form if I remember correctly, but it does have nice illustrations.
Tali ♥
I'm still upset we didn't get the quarians in Andromeda. They just need to reboot that entire game. Do it on the right engine.
And maybe actually properly have it voice acted
"My face is tired"
did you know that terra invicta has templin institute easter egg? i saw it while playing the other day
Wait was that actually Mark Meer?!?!
Anybody else noticed anything off about the Quarian symbol?
They adopted it after encountering Cmdr. Shepard 😂
It looks a bit like the Colonial fleet symbol from BSG...
Remembrance of Earth’s Past aka Three Body Problem 🙏
“Is that a flag? Or are you just happy to see me?”
I like how their ships look like cargo freighters.
I love you, Mark.
If ME3 kept going with the story quality up to Rannoch the repetitive sidequests would not have bothered me that much.
Also f**k the Catalyst.
The lesson here is don't try to exterminate your AI's, but perhaps look at granting them full Sapient rights instead … otherwise they'll try to take those rights by force.
The thing is that the geth were not AI originally that was not their goal they were created as robots connected to a network not slaves or a true AI
How about don't make them in the first place? That defeats the whole point of having supplemental workers.
Mass effect I likely
This whole thing reminds me of Battlestar Galactica. I can only wonder how a post Reaper War quarian society would look like..assuming there are still quarians left.
Anyway, happy N7 Day. Will we get another Mass Effect video this week?
Great Video! Do you have any more than one song lol?
If we don't see clearly a quarian's face (or a quarian without its envirosuit) in the next mass effect I'm gonna riot!
in all that time they should have been able to fine a new homeworld.
I never understood why they were nomads. Their population is so small their fleet could live in any system they chose. Literally any system would have way more resources than they could use. Just find an empty one. No reason to need a habitable planet, just mine stuff, continue to live in space.
The reasons within the universe was the council and they have looked for several viable worlds to colonize in the milky way, for mass effect 2 they could no longer continue living in the fleet but the council would never allow them to colonize a planet, in the andromeda novel many had abandoned hope in the milky way after an expedition to find a viable world in the unknown regions of the galaxy failed during mass effect 1 and 2.
An asteroid by your side would never fix your situation because it is in every way a barren rock.
For them to continue living in space could not be more sustainable.
What was totally bad ass was how they performed during the Reaper War redeeming both themselves AND the Geth one way or the other. Ultimately even being given their ancient ancestral home back an helping them to adjust without spending life in suits an masks.
All all took there was the low, low price of some Geth/ Quarian Marines, some ships between them, an the bargain dirt cheap price of one Geth Super Sniper an Infiltration Specialist
I don't know who it was on the Bioware team who came up with the idea of a nomadic, fleet-bound race, but kudos to them 😊
It was clear that the quarians were inspired by BSG. And like all it's other sifi inspirations, it took the concept and scaled it way up
Too bad it doesn't make any sense. _Galactica_ had a destination (in the original) and were being hunted by the Cylons (in both versions.) The Quarians just couldn't go home; nothing was stopping them from building a permanent home, and they'd had three centuries to start by the time the player comes on the scene.
@@boobah5643 The quarians couldn't just colonise another planet. Due to the nature of their homeworld, quarians evolved an adaptable immune system that was more likely to adapte to a contagion, rather than fight it. This already put them at a disadvantage as if they colonised a new world, it could take days or even months to adapt.
Once the quarians lost their homeworld, they still held out hope that they could get it back, so they waited. As the years and generations passed, the sterile and highly controlled environment of their ships ruined their immune system's adaptability. Now, if they tried to colonise another world, it would be centuries before they would be able to live without their enviro-suits, but if they got their homeworld back, it would only take decades. It's the difference between 60 years and 600. For any quarian living right now to one day live without their suits, they had to take back their world
@@boobah5643 That is not true . We know of several quarian colonization attempts but all colonization attempts failed, their immune system atrophied and to repair it they needed very specific conditions in their new home, so it would be useless to settle on a planet without a condition similar to Rannoch's. The bad thing is that such a world did not exist and all attempts failed according to Tali like other characters the citadel council kicked them off viable planets with such lame excuses as it would be better for another species even though the council races didn't are on the verge of extinction for not having a planet.
So you can see what I'm saying, they were so desperate that they were going to colonize ekuna a world in termynus sistem barely habitable, I suppose that after 300 years a barely habitable world is better than nothing.
Another case was Altakiril or ekuna, where the worlds they found were viable but did not meet all the requirements to one day be truly sustainable or colonizable.
There was an expedition in the migrant fleet, they sent a mini fleet on an expedition to the unknown space of the galaxy to explore new worlds and find a sustainable world, this was done as all the planets in known space were not sustainable and viable for them , a 5-year journey that also failed in the end.
The quarians were so tired that 4000 people signed up for the Andromeda initiative to travel to said galaxy, the idea was to find a sustainable world in said galaxy since they will not be able to find a sustainable world in the Milky Way, however in the end the arka did not join the other ships.
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I burst out laughing at the message at the end
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that
A happy N7 day surprise. Makes me wanna break out my old Slayer for a couple rounds of multiplayer.
This is probably answered somewhere but it's been ages since I've read some of the Codex entries and have never read any of the expanded media but why didn't the early generations of Migrant Fleet Quarians (before their forced nomadic nature wrecked their immune systems too much) attempt to settle another planet? Did they expect to be able to retake Rannoch or did they fear the Geth would hunt them down if they didn't remain mobile?
they even did here in the video they tell you the same, they tried for centuries .Some during mass effect 2 and mass effect 1 sent an expedition to unknown regions of the galaxy in search of a viable world, before that they analyzed worlds like ekuna, alkatyril and others. And in the ahnilitation novel it is mentioned that those who were part of the initiative saw andromeda as their last hope after losing faith in the milky way. Also, tali if you ask him about it on his loyalty mission he says they've been trying for centuries, but also the council often chimes in saying that the planets they find would be better for other species.
A big problem the Quarians have is that they literally need Rannoch, the biosphere of the planet was so intertwined that the Quarians can't adapt well to other planets.
Well, and there's an implied religious (for lack of a better word) demand for it to be Rannoch or nothing. It's the only excuse that holds any water for why they don't just build a homeworld. Other than the writers having no clue about the subject they're purporting to write about.
@@the_corvid97 well they were able to settle other planets like Haestrom. Maybe the vaccines or whatever they used to make their immune systems stronger to settle on other worlds was in too short of supply to be used on the entire species.
@@boobah5643 Rannoch was their last option, they searched for worlds to colonize for centuries. At no time is it said that they did not try to colonize other worlds or they looked for another option, it is more the opposite.
In addition, the rannoch ecosystem was unique, it did not exist in the rest of the galaxy.
Anyone else think the Fleet's logo looks a bit phallic?
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Humanity, Turians and Asari: Destroy Ending
Cerberus and Protheans: Control Ending
Quarian and Geth: Synthesis Ending
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Thou shalt not make a machine in the image of a human mind
Is that an actual quote? If not, that's good
Dune
The Geth literally aren't, they're made vaguely in a Quarian image, and from even that they're evolved.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 There's also an argument to be made that the original geths weren't sentient they were networked VIs they weren't a real artificial intelligence, so their vague appearance is probably part of that.
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have the Quarians ever asked the Geth for their homeworld back?
They did, but the geth for 300 years killed everyone, let's be honest, the legion was the first peaceful geth that didn't try to kill every organic they saw.
In the Andromeda comics, it is revealed that many quarians traveled to the perseus veil trying to negotiate with the geths, they all always die, one named shio was one of the few who was able to escape before mass effect 2 and he did the same, he tried to escape but the geth almost killed him, the geth did not communicate with anyone and were not peaceful if it were not for the threat reaper legion would not even have been created and would continue to be as hostile as they were for centuries, it was not for nothing that the council was terrified of the attack on the citadel.
The Geth found that every time they tried communication, the other side shot at them. So they gave up and came to logical conclusion to just shoot first.
They didn’t believe peace was possible
GOOD choice.
Nice
Is anyone going to point out what the quarian emblem looks like?
The real warning that the Quarians are is actually what not to do when you create fully sentient AI. Treat it as a living being and this kind of thing may not happen
In this case it's not so much because even legion tells you that the first goths were not a real AI, they were more VIs connected to a non-intelligent network
Not necessarily. They didn't even set out to make a true AI. The Geth went too far using using weapons of mass destruction and left only a few million. Extinction was inevitable of they didn't leave the planet.
This is why I always say please and thank you to Siri.
Um....their logo looks a little naughty....