@Chris Hansen ............. *Cough* Chaos factions, *Cough* Star nations that the Imperium either diplo annex or conquer when encountered, *cough* former imperial worlds cut of by warp storms or other means. Just because they don't have armies does not mean that they don't exist in the lore (Or i guess you could use Imperial Guards as replacement since their equipment is Standard Construct based). For example the Macharian crusade brought in more than a thousand worlds into the fold of the Imperium, amongst them many nations and states. Persepolis, a former Imperial world that had lost contact with the Imperium at large refused to return to the fold and held on to their independence, and became the first planet to fall in the Macharian crusades.
@Chris Hansen Rebellions are not exactly rare in the Imperium, at least in comparison to the Tau (One secession state), Imperial worlds are lost to a myriad of reasons every year and in many cases it is due to a planet rebelling, in some cases due to Chaos other times due to the people having enough of the high Thithes. The Macharian worlds where not lost in the age of Strife but rather in the 35: Millenium and for more recent examples we have: The Badab War, where several chapters of Astartes and many Imperial worlds rebelled against the Imperium and had to be forced back into the fold and the astartes destroyed (901-913.M41) and then there was the Sabbat worlds where in 741.M41 the sector governor was forced to flee and caused the start of the Sabbat Worlds Crusade. These where all sector wide rebellions. For smaller example we have the Severan Dominate in which a sub-sector revolted against the Imperium and that one is still ongoing. And your original point was that there where no independent human states and no break away states, and in both my post i have showed plenty of examples from the breath of the Imperiums existence. So the Tau Empire only has the Farshight enclaves to worry about when it comes from secession states, while the Imperium just had several of theirs blow through Cadia and cut the Imperium in twain. So many human chaos factions after all.
@Chris Hansen oh, a sterilization believer in a less-than 2 year old thread, how nice! It's so interesting how Tau haters pile in on a single quote from DOW (which is not even acknowledged as canon) made by a biased imperial, in which he doesn't even outright state that castration happens. Some solid ground here. To believe that you would have to completely ignore that humans compose the third biggest part of Tau armies (behind Tau and kroot), are the most widespread non-tau race on Tau worlds (including humans being on tau home world and other worlds deep inside their empire) and that lots of worlds join Tau willingly and happily, to leave imperial slavery.
@Chris Hansen Actually the Imperium will have you slave away in a smog filled manofactorum, working long hours with little safety and mandatory praying sessions. They are actively sacrificing Humans lives and well-being to maintain the Imperium. There is of course room to argue that considering the technological restraint the Imperium has placed this necessary for the survival of Mankind. But in the end, the goal of the Imperium is not "betterment" but rather "survival". In addition, both Tau and Humans consider themselves "Superior" but while Humanity wants to kill every other advanced species in the universe, the Tau wants to govern them to ensure the supremacy of the Greater Good. This does not mean mass sterilization (and actually used by the Imperium as well) or brutal oppression, but rather a life of equal living standards as your Tau equivalents and subtle propaganda (which the Imperium uses as well). If you where to compare the living standards and freedoms of a Human outside of the ruling classes in the Imperium and the average Human in Tau Space you will probably find that life is sweeter on the Tau side. On the flip side, there is a reason why the Mechanicus has the restrictions that they have and the Tau might be heading into dangerous waters with their AI developments. And despite everything, despite every overworked hive worlder, every miner dying of poor equipment and every suffering soul in the imperium, their suffering is not in vein as they fabricate the materials and equipment that keep the real horrors at bay, Like the Orks who would gleefully slaughter and enslave humanity, like the Eldar who manipulates and sacrifice untold numbers of humans to achieve their self-serving goal, like the Tyranids who seek to consume all. And the Imperium stand against the forces of chaos who would drown the galaxy in madness and cruelty. In the end while the Tau empire might be better to live in, i fear that they are not ready to handle the sheer scale of the horrors the Imperium faces...... At least not yet.
There is one book, I forget which one, where the Imperial Forces are counter-attacking against the Tau, and in one of their planning sessions the Inquisition and and Imperial Gaurdsmen General present tell the Space Marines present that their mission is to capture Tau specimens (one of the Diplomats I believe) so they can vivisect it, study and keep trying to understand why so many Humans keep joining the Tau "willingly", since it obviously must be mind-control or something. And the Space Marine present (I forget which chapter), in his internal train of thought, straight up says to himself "If any of you ever visited the average Imperial world you'd understand the Tau need zero mind control or psychic influence to convince Humans to join them, considering the conditions average Humans are subjected to". Then one of the Tau-aligned Humans they're interrogating for the prologues to the chapters for the book is straight up telling the Inquisition "Yeah, it is fucking amazing riding in vehicles that don't stop working or randomly explode for no reason and not being treated like a disposable piece of trash, and having actually decent equipment and sound military tactics + strategy follow. You guys should try that some time!".
Religious standards are not concrete and are dictated by those with the authority, power, and popularity to back them up. In 40k that is the government of the empire of man. The rules imposed on people by a religion(or any ideal) need not be fair or just to be. This means a given religious orthodoxy could demand that you commit suicide when taken prisoner by an enemy and if you don't do it then you are a heretic, and it would be so regardless of how you decide to re-flavor that religion to suit yourself in that circumstance. In this case the tau human civilians are working together with xenos of a waring empire and fighting against the empire of man. It'd be like a Christian saying they follow the Christian faith whilst making sacrifices to Satan and burning down Christian churches.
some of the worlds don't even know of the emperor as they have never been part of the imperium having been cutoff from humankind in the age of strife. thinking about it, there were some quite technologically advances mini empires around before the great crusade
Well this is a bit complicated actually for 1 major reason and to minor reasons.The major reason is the Inquisition would have no problem killing you if your a planetary Governor or laying siege to your world.The 1st conditional reason is if your a shrine world the Sisters of battle on the planet will go to your home and set you and your family on fire the other conditional reason is your regiment of imperial guard will likely turn on you.Another reason is trade embargoes if your a hive planet and the imperium blockades your planet and don't immediately invade you will die of starvation.
Ever heard of the Age of Strife? It's when humanity peacefully inveloped aliens into their ranks and expanded. Then for some bullshit reason the ALL turned on us and massacured majority of our race. That caused the Emperor to emerge and found the Imperium of Man to both prevent humanity from becoming infiltrated like that again and to give no chance for anyone to even hear chaos.
@@eldritchgamer9934 The truth is that when Imperium even notices one border world joining Tau you will be probably dead of age as well as your kids and their kids. Imperium is slow and betraying it is like a pyramid scheme. First wave to join wins.
10000 years ago, I would have considered Imperial citizens willingly defecting from my Imperium and joining xenos appalling and worthy of extermination... but now... I have watched helplessly for ten millennia as my teachings were perverted, my legacy was corrupted and my empire was turned into a living never ending nightmare, just like my own existence of unending torment... and in the end, all of it was my fault. I am not certain if I still have the right to criticize humans who betray the Imperium that I have created, for I have failed humanity. I simply ask of all humans that no matter what you do, no matter where your path leads you, you must always resist against the forces of Chaos.
Gavin Smith The true Emperor you say, do you mean the fool who thought he could not fail? This man who, despite violently suppressing any claims of his divinity and insisting that he was just a human, was unable to understand both normal humans and his own offspring. This man who was so terrible at communication and trusted his own sons so with much and yet did not trust them with the information they needed to understand why he did what he did. This man who picked the worst possible moment to try to be a good father for the first time in his life and let his judgment be clouded by emotion, which resulted in him and his Imperium being damaged beyond repair. I am no longer that man, 10000 years of watching humanity suffer and seeing 1000 Psykers be sacrificed to me every single day, because of my own stupidity have seen to that. If you want the foolish Emperor back that I once was, then you are a greater help to the so called "Gods" of Chaos than you are to humanity.
That's the problem. They were already on the steps of collapse like Humanity did in the Age of Strife even if they weren't communists essentially (or socialist, either one just speeds up their way to a social collapse). Cruelty is the only defense against evil in their universe.
@@Southern_Crusader *They have CASTES. How the fuck can they be "communist" or "socialist"? Dead meme is dead. And unrestricted capitalism has already been speeding up the way to social collapse.*
I was like..screw it I would never join. Then something hit me ( 6:45 ) and my eyes and heart were opened to see the light of the greater good. How could I be so foolish.
Basically anything bad that can be said about how the Tau empire treats it's citizens can be countered with: "At least it's not as bad as the Imperium!" Let's face it people, the IOM is basically the Twilight of living conditions.
Many Imperial for a lack of other options defeact to the chaos because they disslike their life this much. Imagine how bad the situation must be that chaos seems like a good option. Okay, okay there is some brainwashing involved but is it all brainwashing? I dont think so.
Yep I'd be joining the Tau. The Imperium would be a bleak, boring and insignificant existence in a narrow minded, backwards society. "You had me at rail gun."
Well I'm glad I made my custom space marine chapter question the Imperium and keep their chapter world hidden from the Inquisition, though I've got it lore wise they haven't interacted with the Tau yet, but they have heard of them.
@@definitelynotwu4811 you spelt the most boring wrong. (yeah i am a halo fan but even i must admit warhammer 40 k is the coolest scifi universe barring maybe the greater terran union)
When you compare both the Tau Empire and the Imperium Of Man for the life of humans, Tau offers the best yet they do have little here and there disagreements. The Imperial Guard, on the other hand, shows that life in the Imperium is so rough that all you can do is expect a quick death. At this rate, may as well just be a rogue trader or a pirate.
AlexSDU Too many folk complained that they were too good for 40k's Grim Dark theme. So although they seem nice, once you are in, you never get out. The Tau are not against brain washing or disappearing trouble makers.
I love how the Tau are so self righteous, but when they come to the hell-hole that are the hive-worlds they're just like -"Yeahhhhh nope, nope nope, not taking care of that!"
To say nothing of lack of inter-species integration. While the Tau don't discriminate against other races like the Imperium does, it is the Tau themselves who still enjoy preferential treatment in their own empire.
Before getting completely fed up with GW's bs and leaving the hobby I had actually build up a company of just over 5K points of Gue'vesa troops to fight alongside my 2 hunter cadres. Sadly they never got the chance to take the field before being resigned to parade duty alongside the Tau on their shelves.
The Water Caste gains traction the same way Chaos Cults get traction. Life in the 41st Millenium is so shitty people will believe whatever honeyed lies they are fed if they sound like they'll improve their lives.
Juan Carlos Gonzalez When you have people who would rather be pus covered disease ridden piles of explosive cysts and parasites rather than live in your Imperium...your imperium has a problem.
Mike Zilla Few people read the fine print before giving their souls to the Ruinous Powers. Many others never have a real choice. Never forget the Warp can twist the mind of those exposed to it beyond conventional rationality.
Thats just mean. Being covered in pus and explosive cysts, and ridden by diseases and parasites kann be fun! And nurgle is such a nice uncle, always bringing gifts with him...
it is all propaganda trying to make you think so. but in reality they would shoot you in a head in a blink of an eye if you even thought to lift a finger against your new slaver masters.
+MrANimepredator You are completely full of shit and it's clearly *you* who should spend a little time reading the damn lore. Propaganda is all that drivels out of YOUR damn mouth.
MrAnimepredator The fact that you try to portray that as a NEGATIVE says a lot about the Imperium, and it's fanatical servants that are in truth serving the gods of chaos they claim to fight. You in particular must be a step away from an open Khornate. Oh wait, judging by your profile pic you ARE there already.
The worst crime in the Imperium of Man is HERESY. Treason is HERESY. And uttering such vile praise for these filthy xenos with a pussy on their foreheads is treason against the Master of Mankind, who sits upon the Golden Throne. His judgement is swift and terrible. And his loyal servants are dedicated to carrying out His will. Thought for the Day: Ask not "why kill the alien". Instead, ask "why not?"
robert watts, he isn't sitting on the throne, he is entombed in it. There is a reason chaos calls him the corpse god, because he is 90% dead and only his psychic abilitirs remain. Followers of the imperium do not in any way serve the emperor, they serve the proven to be almost totally corrupt lords of terra. You can spout heresy and treason all you want but it's not treason against the emperor, it's treason against the pieces of crap that have manipulated the imperium into believing they are righteous. Go stand by your greed and power driving lords of terra as they pretend to respect the emperor's wishes while breaking his laws just to make some quick profits.
wow i did not mean to spark this, holly crap, though that being said i would agree with Kong, i'm pretty sure the Emperor would not be happy with the stay of his imperim right now. There's even a TH-cam channel about that, i think its like What if the Emperor had and text to speech or something like that. i do like the theory that the Emperor has become the chaos god of Order and that the legend of the damned are demons.
I feel like the softer Imperial cult emerging from the Tau borderland with the Empire of Man might be able to reform the religion and social structure of the Empire.
Reformation with an iron fist, maybe. I hate to say it, but it's all 40k humans know-that faith needs a sword and a believer to swing it. And by extension, a heretic to slay. Even the Greater Good, in time, must conform to human nature. As more and more humans join the Tau and spread their imperial cult + GG doctrine (Praise the Emperor for the Greater Good!) they'll ironically become it's most aggressive preachers, to the point where they'll actually be pushing into the Imperium by force to 'liberate' its people. They'll largely be prosecuting wars from their own efforts while the Tau give them heavy fire support. This is the point the Tau go from meme space commies to an actual 'threat' to the galaxy.
The greater good seems amazing and all that, but then you realize that the Tau have no idea of the chaos gods and the threat they represent. Hell, they don't even have a solid belief system or gods of their own. Yeah, the empire may suck big time, but a significant uprise of the Tau empire against the Imperium will most probably end with the entire galaxy ravaged by a black crusade.
I'd absolutely join the Tau, either as a maintenance guy or soldier. They just seem like a far better option, they may not be perfect but way better than any other faction.
+Ulquiorra Cifer we now know better than to trust xenos scum. my armor is contempt, my shield is disgust, my sword is hatred. in the Emperors name let none survive!
Where there is uncertainty, I shall bring light Where there is doubt, I shall sow faith Where there is shame, I shall point atonement Where there is rage, I shall show its course My word in the soul shall be as my bolter in the field Stand aside- the Emperor's Work is never done.
Even though I’ll adopt to the philosophy of “Peace, Unity, and Brotherhood” and “Peace through Power” of the Brotherhood of Nod a lot faster than “The Greater Good” of the Tau, the Tau Empire are a close second on my book on factions I’d be a part of considering they’re my favorite 40K faction so far.
Then they would be executed for using xeno tech. Anything not made by humans or invented after the DAoT is considered heretical to the Imperium. You have the Mechanicus to blame for this.
That's possible and they would be able to approve it for use, but it could take decades to over a century for it to go through Imperial bureaucracy. There is also the possibility that the Mechanicus may hoard the template, as they have done this with other pieces of technology in the past.
They still worship the Emperor as you said so they might scream things like that.Also Alpha legionnaires still says "For the Emperor" and who knows what they believe
***** Not only that maybe you are with chaos or in this instance tau because you don't accept the lords of terra that say they follow the emperor's will or how they manage the empire
Tau = SPACE SWEDEN Also the Tau are renown for being snipers but if you read the lore your find out the original Tau species *have shit depth perception*.
That's why Gue'vasa shock troops are respected in the fire caste, because they fill a real tactical niche between Kroot cannibal squads and Shas'la fire teams. Most Tau are screwed if you can break through their lines, you try that shit with a Gue'vasa squadron though and you're gonna eat a fucking bayonet.
So communists that force a way of life and experiments on its own citizens, incredibly self righteous, and has an oppressive ideology? Ya know now that I think about it, you have a point
@OneMindSyndicate Thank you so much for doing a video on the Gue'vesa. They're so under appreciated and virtually unknown in 40k. I even have a custom made Gue'vesa regiment, and everyone thinks it's quite unique! Thanks so much again!
I wonder if given the option (whether it be by choice or threw betrayal or abandonment) would a Space Marine join the Tau? Would be better than being forced into Chaos?
Would a marine join the tau: Never. He'd rather die first. Pretty much, the only time space marines betray the emperor is when they get corrupted to chaos. You are talking about ultra mind control on steroids for 90% of their lives, plus biochemical reinforcement. He might WORK with one against a greater foe (and pretty much any other army in Warhammer are a greater threat than the Tau) but to join would be an abandonment of their duty to the emperor.
What if he had to choose between staying in the empire but thus leading to its fall or at least severe crippling or doing what every other would see as betraying it to the tau and thus saving it. Doomed if he dont, outcast if he does. And now lets say he did choose to betray the empire and thus save it, he has now the choice to go back and die as heretic or live with the tau and continue to try to protect the empire wherever possible. Marines are sworn to protect before anything else, so imo it would make sense for him to try to continue to protect the empire even if he cant do so from within anymore.
Zeno Blues Maybe it could happen to a fleet-based Astartes chapter who had been excommunicated for some bullshit reason and felt disenfrachized. Maybe they met some gue'vesa and gradually started to hate the Tau less. And/or maybe they found out that the Emperor used to be secular and that the current Imperium is pretty much a mockery of what he envisioned.
Tobias Hagström oh some are aware the the Emperor is no god but it would still be hard to convince them as their duty is to the Emperor and he only cared about humanity
Zeno Blues Well, they wouldn't need to be anti-humanity, just convinced that the Imperium has strayed from what the Emperor wanted. Maybe they figure the Tau are a better example on how to be than the Imperium, and they figure the best they can do is to use their own abilities as leverage to promote peace between the empires. Or something. Or maybe they have been a renegade chapter for so long that they have gone through a generation or two of astartes and don't care about the Emperor as much any more. Etc.
In the long run it wouldn't create a lasting peace between the Tau and the Imperium. The Tau's belief in the Greater Good would cause them to continue to expand into Imperial space and try to absorb Imperial worlds into their empire. And those who don't join will be killed, so war is inevitable.
Citizen "Reptillianbountyhunter I Joshua Starkloff I " number : [003354272591124992] You've been charged with "Heresy". In the name of His Holy Majesty, the God-Emperor of Man, I thrice judge Exommunicate Traitoris: by actions , by associations, and by beliefs. Your sentence is death. If you have any last words, you may speak them now. We will ensure they're entered in to the Ordo's archives. May the Imperial justice account all balnce. The Emperor protects.
Meh. Feel free to send another failed crusade and enact that sentence. Perhaps it will get somewhere this time, before being forced to pull back due to Imperium forces being spread so thin as always. Bring some more of those irreplaceable relics. We've got plenty of shiny new anti titan battlesuits just rolling off the production lines these days. Didn't take a millennia of candle arrangements and goat sacrifices to build each one either. Going by previous examples, we've got about 100 years to prepare before imperial bureaucracy actually mobilises anything. Don't worry, the medical science of the greater good isn't relegated only to the elites, so unlike most of the Imperiums current citizens, Starkloff should still be alive by the time you get here.
Orks: yes but only khorne Eldar: they get eaten by slaanesh is they do that, dark eldar is the closest Tau: souls are to weak Tyrannids: no, the block the warp Necrons: no
Walter Lopez No sane Eldar would worship chaos lest their soul get devoured by Slaanesh, Tau are naturally warp resistant, and Orks already have gods of their own, Gork and Mork, who embody Ork 'culture'.
*Imperial Guard:* "Re-tirement?" What is that?... OH wait riiight, that must be High Gothic for "changing the tire" for a vehicle, yes? Oh wait, re-tirement... Is that High Gothic for the usual "Double watch turn with no sleep" where we get double-tired? Oh wait, I shouldn't be asking this many questions, beca- **BLAM** *Commissar:* "Seeking knowledge is to worship Tzeentch, you HERETIC!"
I do kind of wonder what the emperor personally thinks about the situation, I mean the tau empire is probably a little closer to what he envisioned the imperium to be, but at the same time I don't think he enjoys the fact that it's a xeno race that humans are joining, plus the tau don't seem to have much defense against chaos other then their small warp presence.
My battle brothers may mock me for saying this but I love the Tau. In fact when I first was introduced to 40k it seems as if there the good guys and the Empire was well evil. While its not evil persay, they do go to extremes. I would love to be a Gui Vesa in the Tau empire.
Captain Harlock all to often the good life you see in the tau empire is fantasy or highly exaggerated at mets its trading one asswhole government for an other slightly better but still asshole government. More often than not human especially those that keep the imperial faith are treated as 2ed class citizens and when the tau take a human world they often purge huge amounts of the human population because humans breed a lot faster than tau and that can lead to problems. At best the tau just have really good PR and you know that freedom of religion the Tau offer is eather other complete bull shit or if they do allow freedom of religion don't be surprised that you have a Chaos uprising because the tau don't under stand how Choas works. And while the dark gods might not bother to much with corrupting the tau as thier souls don't give much energy to the dark gods, humans remain their favourite snack. For often than not you'll see a Khorn or slannish uprising on tau words as of the four big guys they are the least sneaky. And don't forget the Tau were stupid enough to trust the dark elder to help them fight against a NID invasion and not just any dark elder Veck himself, while thanks to the dark elder the tau didn't loss this war to the NIDS needless to say the dark elder are never to be trusted. They ended up stealing a whole planet population
@@shmee123ful still slightly better assholes is what we need, you said it yourself, I don't see any merit of clinging to dying empire that territory constantly under attack, shrunk and worlds destroyed, there is no risk on clinging to rotten carcass of once great man that sole existence need 1000 souls to be sacrificed every day each day for all time. Roman has fallen time to move on. Heroes dies but survivor survived, you want to be hero? Or survivor?
On one hand, nice life in the Tau Empire, on the other hand, they fight to subdue their fellow humans into an alien empire and anyone who doesn't willingly join are sterilized.
So someone explain to me: What exactly are the benefits of being in the Imperium? You blindly follow what is ostensibly the Spanish Inquisition worshiping a corpse of a human. Not a god; a flesh and blood human. What exactly, aside from indoctrination, would urge you to remain in a civilization where you're ostensibly just a pawn, if not just a living resource to a fanatical priesthood? What is the figurative heaven to aspire to from the hell to avoid that is basically anything that isn't the Imperium?
Well, indoctrination and the fact that not staying means your local commisar will shoot you in the back of the head (or worse, make an example out of you).
Neither answers the question at all, since frankly death would be preferable from what I've seen of the Imperium. And "will it"? How? Isn't the Emperor just a corpse like Lenin or Mao Zedong?
Most human (regular ppl) will never got the chance to become cool n badass space marine, but become a guard(assuming they are not born with birth defect) and die instantly the moment they are deployed, only to be forgotten and their family never be inform and burial. While lthe undesired will be mindwash into a some sort of mechanic or forced to do hard labor with no rest
@@hotdogmakemehappy7337 And apparently some people wish they could live in such a world. Prolly thinking they'd be the space marines when there's an astronomically higher chance to end up as someone who'll most assuredly die.
Hmmh... Daemoncubala eh? Sounds interesting. **Googles wiki article** ... I see... Hmmh. **Looks at THE picture** ... I have the weidest boner/hunger for a good steak right now.
You ever have that time where you are a player of one of the Imperium armies (but mostly Imperial Guard and Space Marines) and a friend who plays Tau keeps trying to steal your spare model parts to make himself some Human Helpers. I remember one time my Tau Player fan who has very little knowledge on Imperial Guard lore stole a sprue of a Leman Russ (which I striped all the parts except for the Tank Commander parts) and a week later he came to the shop with an unpainted kit bashed model of a Human Helper made from the Tank Commander's head, a Fire Warrior's arms and the legs of a Catachan Jungle Fighter (which apparently is one of the older Catachan models). He has quite a few Human Helper models which some were most likely stolen from one of my sprues
Thanks for doing this video! I always wondered about this. Could you guys do one similarly about relations between the Eldar and Humans? Kinda like this one, where you show how both the Imperium at large and the common citizen/soldier interacts with them?
Rennoc717 'Godlike' is a gross stretch. Ethereals are simply the ruling caste, and Tau are bred and conditioned to obey and respect the caste system. Tau don't mind if integrated humans continue worshipping the Emperor so long as they acknowledge Ethereal secular authority. So that confirms the Tau aren't a theocracy. Their 'Greater Good' ideology is more of a militant philosophy than religion.
Hmm I could've sworn somewhere I read that Tau sort of revere Ethereals that way. Am I getting that confused to the tau have any sort of religion to them at all or is their beliefs purely the greater good. I'm an imperial player so I'm ignorant of the foul xenos.
The Tau seem to be the best hope for Human kind ironically. They expect hard work, true, but don't seem to treat you like less than dirt like the Imperium seem to do.
Ever since I heard of the Tau and "The Greater good", I have always thought that they are the most honourable of the races. I als ofound it hilarious when I played Dawn Of War Soulstorm and I heard the voice / Accent given to them.. .Very much a japanese trait and that also made me laugh out loud. The Tau are very honourable and I am sure, that if the human armies, the sister, the Techpriets and the Imperial guard and Space Marines all sided with the Tau, there would be NOTHING to stop them. It is clear though, that the Huamns are never doing things for the greater good and even today we are just parasites rthat destroy everyin in our path
You're a spaced out moralizer who should eliminate themselves, you watch one video and think "imperium bad, tau good" it's not that simple, the imperium has reasons for being the way it is, because the tau optimism is completely false and ended with near extinction when humanity tried it during the age of strife. But of course you have no idea about that
Because they’re young. That’s the best explanation I can come up with. Before the dark age of technology and during the first empire, humanity is implied to have been a lot like the Tau. Think kind of like humans in Mass Effect or Star Trek. Or (if you want something from real life to draw from) the humans of this “first empire” were a lot like the Western Roman Empire before its fall. Cosmopolitan, powerful, wealthy, educated, and having a decent standard of living. Then the Roman Empire collapsed, became fractured, torn apart by civil war, and what eventually took on its name was the “Holy Roman Empire.” The HRE is the best, real life equivalent, to the Imperium of Man we have.
@@537monster Byzantine empire is Imperium of man we have today, Zealous and rife with strive constantly losing despite having the best military calvary and technology in the world in it's time. Have obscenely ineffective administration and lots of people in power rivaling each other and too fractured to unified but sadly still bear same banner. Only took one turkish man to capture constantinople to defeat this behemoth, same as imperium of man in any way, capture Terra and dispose of emperor the rest will fall.
Sean Conley They would be trained as regular guardsmens, because their entire purpose is to serve as a troops that is acceptably effective both at range and at melee, whereas tau suck at melee and are great marksmens and kroots are masters at melee but sucks at distance, gueve'sa are the jack of all trades
I'd really like to see them cover maybe an Imperial Guard defector in a Tau Homeworld as one of it's Guard with Tau Tech, I'd REALLY REALLY LOVE TO SEE THAT :D
The goddamned Xanthites in the Inquisition need to get Malal back into the Warp from the friggin' Void of Retconnia, just so he'll stir up shit and ruin the plans of the other chaos gods. Make the damn chaos fight itself in the Immaterium and use up it's energy that way. ... Because putting out a fire with a flamethrower always works. xD
Darn tootin'! It's all greater good and blue anime girls from here on out. Humans of the greater good have the best lives in this reality-forsaken universe.
Unless I am mistaken, there is only a single reference made to the T'au sterilizing those under the T'au Empire. Which occurs in the non-canon ending to the Dawn of War: Dark Crusade computer game, in which dissident humans were rumored to be sterilized. We know it isn't the canon ending because the T'au Empire obviously did NOT win canonically in Dawn of War: Dark Crusade. So please lets have the idea that T'au sterilize other races be put aside and no longer brought up!
Well i guess its a form of deradicalization. You worship the emperor, that saves mankind from chaos and other evil, but you dont want to kil all xenos and stuff.
From a philosophical perspective the Emperor himself stated that the Imperium was doomed following the Horus heresy and failure of the web way project. If a human truly believes that by siding with the Tau they will bring about the ultimate survival of humanity as a species then you could argue they are more faithfully supporting the spirit of what the Emperor wanted for mankind than even the Astartes or the Ecclesiarchs do.
I find it adorable The xeno's who think they're winning. Its only a matter of time before the imperium declares exterminatus against the entirety of tau space. Assuming the tyrainds don't kill them first.
I'd certainly join them! A Tau empire is the most likely to bring true peace, and individuals are not treated like serfs like in the Imperium, plus Tau dominance would help weaken chaos as they themselves cannot be corrupted or possessed not do they add to the chaos powers strength.
U cant blame these ppl for Turning to Tau for support...The Imp Empire Left them to DIE! There should be a Inquiry in to those type of things,But...Black Templar's should be sent to ''Help'' the Plant to the Emperor side again :D
than they should have died with their loyalty intact. now they will never have the Emperors hand on their shoulders again, instead a cold bolter against their heads.
Emperor is rotten carcass though quite literally he will never move again because when he does he will personally purge the Imperium maybe resulting bloodbath so bloody it would create another chaos God. Imperium is the traitor to Emperor cause, how can a traitor call others traitor?
If we were to give up our lives, we will die for the greater good. We are the space marines of the greater good, the liberator of the humankind, we will triumph upon those who threaten humanity's freedom. (SPAMS Guevesa so annoyingly to space marines until they feel like fighting tyranid swarms.)
Krot were almost wiped out by orks, Tau commenders impressed by Kroot determination not only helped them to defeat orks, but also gave them support in reclaiming their once collonised planets.
Everyone here is talking about how it is heresy, but if your ass woke up in 40k I can guarantee that everyone here would zoom over to the Tau. Like damn, space Soviet Union isn't that bad, especially when it's an even more open society.
Tau diplomat: “Good day to you humans! I came with peace....” Space Marine: “HERETIC! DIE BLUE SKIN! NO MERCY! FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAAAAAA”
Meanwhile all the citizens suffering in the nearby hive-cities losing out on their likely only chance of a good existence. The imperium is too far gone. Stop calling our true allies "Xenos" and relent to the greater good.
man the more i learn about the Tau Empire the more i admire them. my only problem is their rigid Caste system, but that's because i am Human in a world long before the Imperium and my social understanding places individuality as a high cultural priority. the Tau Empire have spent centuries perfecting their Caste system, so much so it has colored the Tau physiology. i'd be fine with Being a Human living in one of the frontier colonies (particularly growing up on one). the "greater good" system the Tau Empire employs works well in expanding relatively slowly: incorporate alien world, improve the quality of life and thus productivity of said world, enjoy the benefits of another world working for the Greater Good, then move on. can take a while to reach a perfect system for each world incorporated.
Imperium:
Tau:
Pretty much
@Chris Hansen ............. *Cough* Chaos factions, *Cough* Star nations that the Imperium either diplo annex or conquer when encountered, *cough* former imperial worlds cut of by warp storms or other means. Just because they don't have armies does not mean that they don't exist in the lore (Or i guess you could use Imperial Guards as replacement since their equipment is Standard Construct based). For example the Macharian crusade brought in more than a thousand worlds into the fold of the Imperium, amongst them many nations and states. Persepolis, a former Imperial world that had lost contact with the Imperium at large refused to return to the fold and held on to their independence, and became the first planet to fall in the Macharian crusades.
@Chris Hansen Rebellions are not exactly rare in the Imperium, at least in comparison to the Tau (One secession state), Imperial worlds are lost to a myriad of reasons every year and in many cases it is due to a planet rebelling, in some cases due to Chaos other times due to the people having enough of the high Thithes. The Macharian worlds where not lost in the age of Strife but rather in the 35: Millenium and for more recent examples we have: The Badab War, where several chapters of Astartes and many Imperial worlds rebelled against the Imperium and had to be forced back into the fold and the astartes destroyed (901-913.M41) and then there was the Sabbat worlds where in 741.M41 the sector governor was forced to flee and caused the start of the Sabbat Worlds Crusade. These where all sector wide rebellions. For smaller example we have the Severan Dominate in which a sub-sector revolted against the Imperium and that one is still ongoing. And your original point was that there where no independent human states and no break away states, and in both my post i have showed plenty of examples from the breath of the Imperiums existence. So the Tau Empire only has the Farshight enclaves to worry about when it comes from secession states, while the Imperium just had several of theirs blow through Cadia and cut the Imperium in twain. So many human chaos factions after all.
@Chris Hansen oh, a sterilization believer in a less-than 2 year old thread, how nice!
It's so interesting how Tau haters pile in on a single quote from DOW (which is not even acknowledged as canon) made by a biased imperial, in which he doesn't even outright state that castration happens. Some solid ground here.
To believe that you would have to completely ignore that humans compose the third biggest part of Tau armies (behind Tau and kroot), are the most widespread non-tau race on Tau worlds (including humans being on tau home world and other worlds deep inside their empire) and that lots of worlds join Tau willingly and happily, to leave imperial slavery.
@Chris Hansen Actually the Imperium will have you slave away in a smog filled manofactorum, working long hours with little safety and mandatory praying sessions. They are actively sacrificing Humans lives and well-being to maintain the Imperium. There is of course room to argue that considering the technological restraint the Imperium has placed this necessary for the survival of Mankind. But in the end, the goal of the Imperium is not "betterment" but rather "survival". In addition, both Tau and Humans consider themselves "Superior" but while Humanity wants to kill every other advanced species in the universe, the Tau wants to govern them to ensure the supremacy of the Greater Good. This does not mean mass sterilization (and actually used by the Imperium as well) or brutal oppression, but rather a life of equal living standards as your Tau equivalents and subtle propaganda (which the Imperium uses as well). If you where to compare the living standards and freedoms of a Human outside of the ruling classes in the Imperium and the average Human in Tau Space you will probably find that life is sweeter on the Tau side. On the flip side, there is a reason why the Mechanicus has the restrictions that they have and the Tau might be heading into dangerous waters with their AI developments. And despite everything, despite every overworked hive worlder, every miner dying of poor equipment and every suffering soul in the imperium, their suffering is not in vein as they fabricate the materials and equipment that keep the real horrors at bay, Like the Orks who would gleefully slaughter and enslave humanity, like the Eldar who manipulates and sacrifice untold numbers of humans to achieve their self-serving goal, like the Tyranids who seek to consume all. And the Imperium stand against the forces of chaos who would drown the galaxy in madness and cruelty. In the end while the Tau empire might be better to live in, i fear that they are not ready to handle the sheer scale of the horrors the Imperium faces...... At least not yet.
There is one book, I forget which one, where the Imperial Forces are counter-attacking against the Tau, and in one of their planning sessions the Inquisition and and Imperial Gaurdsmen General present tell the Space Marines present that their mission is to capture Tau specimens (one of the Diplomats I believe) so they can vivisect it, study and keep trying to understand why so many Humans keep joining the Tau "willingly", since it obviously must be mind-control or something.
And the Space Marine present (I forget which chapter), in his internal train of thought, straight up says to himself "If any of you ever visited the average Imperial world you'd understand the Tau need zero mind control or psychic influence to convince Humans to join them, considering the conditions average Humans are subjected to".
Then one of the Tau-aligned Humans they're interrogating for the prologues to the chapters for the book is straight up telling the Inquisition "Yeah, it is fucking amazing riding in vehicles that don't stop working or randomly explode for no reason and not being treated like a disposable piece of trash, and having actually decent equipment and sound military tactics + strategy follow. You guys should try that some time!".
Damocles
Hilarious, he was spitting facts though.
That's straight up heresy
no no no Grimdark and sad. That's how we like it.
"Also, the food actually tastes like food."
The funny thing is, those guys cannot be considered heretics since:
1) The still pray to the Emperor.
2) The Imperium betrayed them first.
Heretic is a meaningless word anyway since it was invented by Lorgar, a traitor Primarch.
That's something a heretic would say
@@Contevent heresy
Religious standards are not concrete and are dictated by those with the authority, power, and popularity to back them up. In 40k that is the government of the empire of man. The rules imposed on people by a religion(or any ideal) need not be fair or just to be. This means a given religious orthodoxy could demand that you commit suicide when taken prisoner by an enemy and if you don't do it then you are a heretic, and it would be so regardless of how you decide to re-flavor that religion to suit yourself in that circumstance.
In this case the tau human civilians are working together with xenos of a waring empire and fighting against the empire of man. It'd be like a Christian saying they follow the Christian faith whilst making sacrifices to Satan and burning down Christian churches.
some of the worlds don't even know of the emperor as they have never been part of the imperium having been cutoff from humankind in the age of strife.
thinking about it, there were some quite technologically advances mini empires around before the great crusade
Being a tau diplomat is like dealing with a Leonidas situation EVERY TIME! it must be a stressful job
Daniel rogers THIS IS IMPERIIIIIUUUUUUUUMMMMMM
Aaaaaaahhhh!!
I guess telemarketers would excel at the job. X)
fuggin commies they deserve it
That’s a lot of spartan kicking
6:50
"The Tau show these pictures"
Tau use porn to recruit! Now a fact
Yep :)
Just like the Russian did back in WWII to recruit German soldiers tired of Nazism
They did? honestly?
The concerning part, is that female Tau have no breasts.
Der Boi Disturbing mutilation and fake tits? Or weapons? I'd rather die for the Emperor.
Joining them sounds like a no-brainer if they're in your neighborhood and the Imperium isn't looking.
And the chances of retaliation is slim
Well this is a bit complicated actually for 1 major reason and to minor reasons.The major reason is the Inquisition would have no problem killing you if your a planetary Governor or laying siege to your world.The 1st conditional reason is if your a shrine world the Sisters of battle on the planet will go to your home and set you and your family on fire the other conditional reason is your regiment of imperial guard will likely turn on you.Another reason is trade embargoes if your a hive planet and the imperium blockades your planet and don't immediately invade you will die of starvation.
If the commissars hear you, he`ll have your head
Ever heard of the Age of Strife? It's when humanity peacefully inveloped aliens into their ranks and expanded. Then for some bullshit reason the ALL turned on us and massacured majority of our race. That caused the Emperor to emerge and found the Imperium of Man to both prevent humanity from becoming infiltrated like that again and to give no chance for anyone to even hear chaos.
@@eldritchgamer9934 The truth is that when Imperium even notices one border world joining Tau you will be probably dead of age as well as your kids and their kids. Imperium is slow and betraying it is like a pyramid scheme. First wave to join wins.
10000 years ago, I would have considered Imperial citizens willingly defecting from my Imperium and joining xenos appalling and worthy of extermination... but now...
I have watched helplessly for ten millennia as my teachings were perverted, my legacy was corrupted and my empire was turned into a living never ending nightmare, just like my own existence of unending torment... and in the end, all of it was my fault.
I am not certain if I still have the right to criticize humans who betray the Imperium that I have created, for I have failed humanity.
I simply ask of all humans that no matter what you do, no matter where your path leads you, you must always resist against the forces of Chaos.
The God Emperor blood for the blood God!!!!!!
you can't be the true emperor...HERESY
Gavin Smith The true Emperor you say, do you mean the fool who thought he could not fail?
This man who, despite violently suppressing any claims of his divinity and insisting that he was just a human, was unable to understand both normal humans and his own offspring.
This man who was so terrible at communication and trusted his own sons so with much and yet did not trust them with the information they needed to understand why he did what he did.
This man who picked the worst possible moment to try to be a good father for the first time in his life and let his judgment be clouded by emotion, which resulted in him and his Imperium being damaged beyond repair.
I am no longer that man, 10000 years of watching humanity suffer and seeing 1000 Psykers be sacrificed to me every single day, because of my own stupidity have seen to that.
If you want the foolish Emperor back that I once was, then you are a greater help to the so called "Gods" of Chaos than you are to humanity.
HERESY
someone better get ahold of the Inquisition this comment section needs some exterminatus
The Tau may have their flaws but still they are one of the nicer races in the 40k universe.
That's the problem. They were already on the steps of collapse like Humanity did in the Age of Strife even if they weren't communists essentially (or socialist, either one just speeds up their way to a social collapse). Cruelty is the only defense against evil in their universe.
Harlekin hooooooo I have a feeling there going have a imperial of man treatment
*BELIEVE ME* the chaos gods are going to have a laugh fucking them up
@@jackdaalfbrainork6392 Can you elaborate?
Killer Joy They are not communist or socialist, they are collectivists
@@Southern_Crusader
*They have CASTES. How the fuck can they be "communist" or "socialist"? Dead meme is dead. And unrestricted capitalism has already been speeding up the way to social collapse.*
If as a human, they allow me to pilot a battle suit...that's a bonus. The Tau are my favorite faction in every way. FOR THE GREATER GOOD!!!
HERESY !!!!!
6:45 call me a heretic, im going for it
I don't roll with that "heresy". I just want to protect civilians to the best of my ability.
“Inquisition? Yeah, it’s me again....yeah, there’s another one.”
Big-titty-tau
I was like..screw it I would never join.
Then something hit me ( 6:45 ) and my eyes and heart were opened to see the light of the greater good. How could I be so foolish.
Then you find out in reality they are flat a a broad and the women look like Cad Bane's gay brother.
Killer Joy Shhh let’s just pretend this is canon
@@Southern_Crusader I've heard only Fire Caste female Tau got those characteristics.
Your eyes are flawed let the inquisition pluck them out for you. Doctrine will replace them
WHOA MAMA 😛😛😛😛😩😩😩
Basically anything bad that can be said about how the Tau empire treats it's citizens can be countered with: "At least it's not as bad as the Imperium!" Let's face it people, the IOM is basically the Twilight of living conditions.
I'd rather drink my Emperor given ration of slime water than be brainwashed and sterilised by xeno filth.
Many Imperial for a lack of other options defeact to the chaos because they disslike their life this much. Imagine how bad the situation must be that chaos seems like a good option. Okay, okay there is some brainwashing involved but is it all brainwashing? I dont think so.
What about the forced sterilizations?
@@viceroy___ > implying the Imperium doesn't brainwash and sterilize you
I'm guessing the Farsight Enclaves treat their humans better compared to the Tau Empire.
Yep I'd be joining the Tau. The Imperium would be a bleak, boring and insignificant existence in a narrow minded, backwards society. "You had me at rail gun."
Best sci fi faction Is the UNSC , I'd be a marine and go oooooorrrrrrrrrahhhhhh with my squad.
then immediately get glassed
@@Ghostdrone25 naaaahhhhh i would make it buddy oooorrrahhhhh
Well I'm glad I made my custom space marine chapter question the Imperium and keep their chapter world hidden from the Inquisition, though I've got it lore wise they haven't interacted with the Tau yet, but they have heard of them.
@@definitelynotwu4811 you spelt the most boring wrong.
(yeah i am a halo fan but even i must admit warhammer 40 k is the coolest scifi universe barring maybe the greater terran union)
When you compare both the Tau Empire and the Imperium Of Man for the life of humans, Tau offers the best yet they do have little here and there disagreements. The Imperial Guard, on the other hand, shows that life in the Imperium is so rough that all you can do is expect a quick death. At this rate, may as well just be a rogue trader or a pirate.
Tau Empire sound more peaceful & sane, in a crazy universe.
I might join them, if I'm in this universe.
Plus, they got cool helmet design.
AlexSDU Too many folk complained that they were too good for 40k's Grim Dark theme. So although they seem nice, once you are in, you never get out. The Tau are not against brain washing or disappearing trouble makers.
Ryan Malcolm McGuinness
Well, they got no problem with me then.
I'm just a simple citizen who only minding his own business.
Well, are you against being sterilized?
Harr darr
They only sterilized the trouble makers.
MrAnimepredator
As long I'm happy, why not?
I love how the Tau are so self righteous, but when they come to the hell-hole that are the hive-worlds they're just like -"Yeahhhhh nope, nope nope, not taking care of that!"
Trying to keep down crime in the lower levels of a Hive World would be like installing fire extinguishers in Hell.
To say nothing of lack of inter-species integration. While the Tau don't discriminate against other races like the Imperium does, it is the Tau themselves who still enjoy preferential treatment in their own empire.
so communism
So communism
wιѕegυy what "false dream" are we speaking of?
That moment when you find the biggest secret of the universe: "Tau treats people better than Imperium" suck that for the greater good.
Before getting completely fed up with GW's bs and leaving the hobby I had actually build up a company of just over 5K points of Gue'vesa troops to fight alongside my 2 hunter cadres. Sadly they never got the chance to take the field before being resigned to parade duty alongside the Tau on their shelves.
Mood
Looking at 6:45... can you really blame them for defecting now?
Yesno.
The Water Caste gains traction the same way Chaos Cults get traction. Life in the 41st Millenium is so shitty people will believe whatever honeyed lies they are fed if they sound like they'll improve their lives.
Juan Carlos Gonzalez When you have people who would rather be pus covered disease ridden piles of explosive cysts and parasites rather than live in your Imperium...your imperium has a problem.
Mike Zilla
Few people read the fine print before giving their souls to the Ruinous Powers. Many others never have a real choice. Never forget the Warp can twist the mind of those exposed to it beyond conventional rationality.
Thats just mean. Being covered in pus and explosive cysts, and ridden by diseases and parasites kann be fun! And nurgle is such a nice uncle, always bringing gifts with him...
Looks like tau empire is more humane then the human empire. How ironic
it is all propaganda trying to make you think so. but in reality they would shoot you in a head in a blink of an eye if you even thought to lift a finger against your new slaver masters.
+MrANimepredator
You are completely full of shit and it's clearly *you* who should spend a little time reading the damn lore.
Propaganda is all that drivels out of YOUR damn mouth.
RuSosan damn xeno sympathizer.
MrAnimepredator
The fact that you try to portray that as a NEGATIVE says a lot about the Imperium, and it's fanatical servants that are in truth serving the gods of chaos they claim to fight.
You in particular must be a step away from an open Khornate. Oh wait, judging by your profile pic you ARE there already.
RuSosan
being a xeno is one thing the Emperor does not forgive.
oh man sounds like life under the tau is much nicer then in the imperiam
pyro42 PURGE THE HERETICS!!!
now are those human tau models moded models or did GW put out kits for those?
The worst crime in the Imperium of Man is HERESY. Treason is HERESY. And uttering such vile praise for these filthy xenos with a pussy on their foreheads is treason against the Master of Mankind, who sits upon the Golden Throne. His judgement is swift and terrible. And his loyal servants are dedicated to carrying out His will.
Thought for the Day: Ask not "why kill the alien". Instead, ask "why not?"
robert watts, he isn't sitting on the throne, he is entombed in it. There is a reason chaos calls him the corpse god, because he is 90% dead and only his psychic abilitirs remain. Followers of the imperium do not in any way serve the emperor, they serve the proven to be almost totally corrupt lords of terra. You can spout heresy and treason all you want but it's not treason against the emperor, it's treason against the pieces of crap that have manipulated the imperium into believing they are righteous. Go stand by your greed and power driving lords of terra as they pretend to respect the emperor's wishes while breaking his laws just to make some quick profits.
wow i did not mean to spark this, holly crap, though that being said i would agree with Kong, i'm pretty sure the Emperor would not be happy with the stay of his imperim right now. There's even a TH-cam channel about that, i think its like What if the Emperor had and text to speech or something like that. i do like the theory that the Emperor has become the chaos god of Order and that the legend of the damned are demons.
I feel like the softer Imperial cult emerging from the Tau borderland with the Empire of Man might be able to reform the religion and social structure of the Empire.
Reformation with an iron fist, maybe. I hate to say it, but it's all 40k humans know-that faith needs a sword and a believer to swing it. And by extension, a heretic to slay. Even the Greater Good, in time, must conform to human nature.
As more and more humans join the Tau and spread their imperial cult + GG doctrine (Praise the Emperor for the Greater Good!) they'll ironically become it's most aggressive preachers, to the point where they'll actually be pushing into the Imperium by force to 'liberate' its people. They'll largely be prosecuting wars from their own efforts while the Tau give them heavy fire support. This is the point the Tau go from meme space commies to an actual 'threat' to the galaxy.
We need a Traitor chapter serving the greater good!
@NotJo The tau could reverse enginer astartes tech.
@NotJo T'au space marines, now THAT would be horrifying.
I'm thinking about making my next army a traitor chapter serving the greater good.
@@NexterZulu imagine a bastardized hybrid of a dreadnought and a battlesuit.
There is
Hmm...where do I sign up? For the Greater Good!
Wait, who's that behind me- *BANG! BANG!*
WakingDreamer01 A MOTHER FUCKING ANGRY MARINE THAT'S WHO
Nooooo he wasn't ready
HE WAS READY FUCKING ENOUGH TO BETRAY US
The greater good seems amazing and all that, but then you realize that the Tau have no idea of the chaos gods and the threat they represent. Hell, they don't even have a solid belief system or gods of their own. Yeah, the empire may suck big time, but a significant uprise of the Tau empire against the Imperium will most probably end with the entire galaxy ravaged by a black crusade.
But the tau have little effect on the warp...
I'd absolutely join the Tau, either as a maintenance guy or soldier. They just seem like a far better option, they may not be perfect but way better than any other faction.
I fucking love the comments section.
Just as planned...
It's for the Greater Good, just as the Tau wish.
Inquisitor Sanders People of the Empire are just xenophobes because so many of their first contacts with xenos were so violent.
+Ulquiorra Cifer we now know better than to trust xenos scum. my armor is contempt, my shield is disgust, my sword is hatred. in the Emperors name let none survive!
WH40k has the best fanbase, ever.
Humans in the Tau Empire? ahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Serf, get my bolter.
Auctorian here is your weapon plus your holy chainsword
Where there is uncertainty, I shall bring light
Where there is doubt, I shall sow faith
Where there is shame, I shall point atonement
Where there is rage, I shall show its course
My word in the soul shall be as my bolter in the field
Stand aside- the Emperor's Work is never done.
Auctorian My lord, your warriors stand ready to purge the heretics and xeno's with the purifying light of the God-Emperor
Auctorian YOUR FUCKING LATE WE'RE ALL READY FUCKED UP THE XENOS BUT YOU CAN FUCK UP THE FUCKING SCRAPS
BEEP! Wait was that the button that launched the virus bombs! Well shit! My bad!
6:47 id glad switch
Ashton Fields giggity
Ashton Fields Bluubs
Sagrotan stupit humies killin ofer humies
Sagrotan dats my job
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Even though I’ll adopt to the philosophy of “Peace, Unity, and Brotherhood” and “Peace through Power” of the Brotherhood of Nod a lot faster than “The Greater Good” of the Tau, the Tau Empire are a close second on my book on factions I’d be a part of considering they’re my favorite 40K faction so far.
*IN THE NAME OF KANE*
QUESTION: What if the entire Imperial Guard switched from flashlights to Pulse Rifles and Pulse Carbines after copying Tau technology?
Then they would be executed for using xeno tech. Anything not made by humans or invented after the DAoT is considered heretical to the Imperium. You have the Mechanicus to blame for this.
James Georgi That would be heresy. Heresy to the Omnissiah and to the God-Emperor. For even thinking it, you will die.
Draconite What if the mechanicus dug up the template and claimed it as human?
That's possible and they would be able to approve it for use, but it could take decades to over a century for it to go through Imperial bureaucracy. There is also the possibility that the Mechanicus may hoard the template, as they have done this with other pieces of technology in the past.
Draconite I doubt they'd hoard it due to how powerful the weapons are and how useful they can be
BY THE EMPEROR'S TRUE WILL FOR THE GREATER GOOD
I'm confused
They still worship the Emperor as you said so they might scream things like that.Also Alpha legionnaires still says "For the Emperor" and who knows what they believe
*****
Not only that maybe you are with chaos or in this instance tau because you don't accept the lords of terra that say they follow the emperor's will or how they manage the empire
That is one theory, I prefer the emperor is a gengineered super soldier from the dark age of technology.
xeronicus but the Emperor was in ancient Mesopotamia
Tau = SPACE SWEDEN
Also the Tau are renown for being snipers but if you read the lore your find out the original Tau species *have shit depth perception*.
Daniel Forsythe Maybe the tau got infected by some kind of parasite, and that's why they had a sudden change in behavior/biology about 6 kya.
Maybe the fire caste are the ones with not shit depth perception.
That's why Gue'vasa shock troops are respected in the fire caste, because they fill a real tactical niche between Kroot cannibal squads and Shas'la fire teams. Most Tau are screwed if you can break through their lines, you try that shit with a Gue'vasa squadron though and you're gonna eat a fucking bayonet.
@@FaukGPlaus It may be better for them ... Just sayin'.
So communists that force a way of life and experiments on its own citizens, incredibly self righteous, and has an oppressive ideology? Ya know now that I think about it, you have a point
6:46 UGH such Overwhelming HERESY!
The Tau, from banging rocks together for fire to Interstellar Warships in 6000 years flat
Faster than Humanity, ancient egypt civilization span back to 10 BC btw.
So human build Pyramid in the same time Tau build warpdrive.
@OneMindSyndicate Thank you so much for doing a video on the Gue'vesa. They're so under appreciated and virtually unknown in 40k. I even have a custom made Gue'vesa regiment, and everyone thinks it's quite unique! Thanks so much again!
Someone call the Black Templars. There is purging to be done
tefras14 TO FUCKING BAD YOU GET FUCKING ANGRY MARINES
I thought you guys where already there that is why i had to call the templars because they are slacking
Hohoho, shots fired.
Sending Emergency Vox to the Black Templars chapter... activation of battle protocol of the Ordo's Militant force...
fuck yo Templar ill phase balast dem fools
I wonder if given the option (whether it be by choice or threw betrayal or abandonment) would a Space Marine join the Tau? Would be better than being forced into Chaos?
It's kinda like asking will fascist offcer from SS (Gestapo) will join Jews if left behind be retreating army...
They are even considered battle brothers by Tau fire warriors.
Would a marine join the tau: Never. He'd rather die first.
Pretty much, the only time space marines betray the emperor is when they get corrupted to chaos. You are talking about ultra mind control on steroids for 90% of their lives, plus biochemical reinforcement.
He might WORK with one against a greater foe (and pretty much any other army in Warhammer are a greater threat than the Tau) but to join would be an abandonment of their duty to the emperor.
What if he had to choose between staying in the empire but thus leading to its fall or at least severe crippling or doing what every other would see as betraying it to the tau and thus saving it. Doomed if he dont, outcast if he does.
And now lets say he did choose to betray the empire and thus save it, he has now the choice to go back and die as heretic or live with the tau and continue to try to protect the empire wherever possible. Marines are sworn to protect before anything else, so imo it would make sense for him to try to continue to protect the empire even if he cant do so from within anymore.
Johann Ludwig Edel Depends on the chapter, in my mind. Space wolves and lamenters, sure. Dark angels? Hell no.
This video has the most smiling humans I've seen in 40k
Those guys at 3:30 have seen some shit man. Look at their eyes.
tlucentefl lol
I wanted to write the same :D
they have experienced too much heresy
They saw a fucking dragon in the kitchen ....... If you see what I mean .
haha lol
"Fuck The Empire, Always Pounding Tau" - Bolt Club
Have there ever been any Tau sympathizing Astartes? Their melee and toughness seems like it'd compliment the tau pretty well.
Highly unlikely as part of a Space Marines initiation they are brainwashed into being loyal to the Emperor above all
Zeno Blues Maybe it could happen to a fleet-based Astartes chapter who had been excommunicated for some bullshit reason and felt disenfrachized. Maybe they met some gue'vesa and gradually started to hate the Tau less. And/or maybe they found out that the Emperor used to be secular and that the current Imperium is pretty much a mockery of what he envisioned.
Tobias Hagström oh some are aware the the Emperor is no god but it would still be hard to convince them as their duty is to the Emperor and he only cared about humanity
Zeno Blues Well, they wouldn't need to be anti-humanity, just convinced that the Imperium has strayed from what the Emperor wanted. Maybe they figure the Tau are a better example on how to be than the Imperium, and they figure the best they can do is to use their own abilities as leverage to promote peace between the empires. Or something. Or maybe they have been a renegade chapter for so long that they have gone through a generation or two of astartes and don't care about the Emperor as much any more. Etc.
In the long run it wouldn't create a lasting peace between the Tau and the Imperium.
The Tau's belief in the Greater Good would cause them to continue to expand into Imperial space and try to absorb Imperial worlds into their empire.
And those who don't join will be killed, so war is inevitable.
6:47 Sign me up!
Citizen "Reptillianbountyhunter I Joshua Starkloff I " number : [003354272591124992]
You've been charged with "Heresy". In the name of His Holy Majesty, the
God-Emperor of Man, I thrice judge Exommunicate Traitoris: by actions ,
by associations, and by beliefs. Your sentence is death. If you have any
last words, you may speak them now. We will ensure they're entered in
to the Ordo's archives. May the Imperial justice account all balnce. The
Emperor protects.
Inquisitor Marcus Ooooh shieeet..I forgot this was a Imperium of Man Protected Channel.
Run bitch *readies bolter* >:3
"The Tau have been known to show pictures... of hot blue xeno's to encourage recruitment."
Meh. Feel free to send another failed crusade and enact that sentence. Perhaps it will get somewhere this time, before being forced to pull back due to Imperium forces being spread so thin as always. Bring some more of those irreplaceable relics. We've got plenty of shiny new anti titan battlesuits just rolling off the production lines these days. Didn't take a millennia of candle arrangements and goat sacrifices to build each one either.
Going by previous examples, we've got about 100 years to prepare before imperial bureaucracy actually mobilises anything. Don't worry, the medical science of the greater good isn't relegated only to the elites, so unlike most of the Imperiums current citizens, Starkloff should still be alive by the time you get here.
I for one welcome our new Tau overlords.
The Effect of Chaos on Xenos races. are there Chaos Orks? Chaos Eldar or Tau? Chaos Tyrannids or Necrons?
Chaos Squats?
Walter Lopez There are only chaos squats.
Orks: yes but only khorne
Eldar: they get eaten by slaanesh is they do that, dark eldar is the closest
Tau: souls are to weak
Tyrannids: no, the block the warp
Necrons: no
Walter Lopez It used be thought that the deamonettes of slaanesh were transformed eldar.
There is no chaos necrons, very rare cases of chaos tau
Walter Lopez No sane Eldar would worship chaos lest their soul get devoured by Slaanesh, Tau are naturally warp resistant, and Orks already have gods of their own, Gork and Mork, who embody Ork 'culture'.
Retirement From the Imperial Guard Facts..Also Shellshock/PTSD in the imperial guard.
Please and thank you :)
Amythest Mabee haha duty ends in death that's the guard retirement plan for you
*Imperial Guard:* "Re-tirement?" What is that?... OH wait riiight, that must be High Gothic for "changing the tire" for a vehicle, yes? Oh wait, re-tirement... Is that High Gothic for the usual "Double watch turn with no sleep" where we get double-tired? Oh wait, I shouldn't be asking this many questions, beca- **BLAM**
*Commissar:* "Seeking knowledge is to worship Tzeentch, you HERETIC!"
I do kind of wonder what the emperor personally thinks about the situation, I mean the tau empire is probably a little closer to what he envisioned the imperium to be, but at the same time I don't think he enjoys the fact that it's a xeno race that humans are joining, plus the tau don't seem to have much defense against chaos other then their small warp presence.
He just thinks, “i should’ve killed that litte shit long time ago” 24/7
My battle brothers may mock me for saying this but I love the Tau. In fact when I first was introduced to 40k it seems as if there the good guys and the Empire was well evil. While its not evil persay, they do go to extremes. I would love to be a Gui Vesa in the Tau empire.
Captain Harlock all to often the good life you see in the tau empire is fantasy or highly exaggerated at mets its trading one asswhole government for an other slightly better but still asshole government. More often than not human especially those that keep the imperial faith are treated as 2ed class citizens and when the tau take a human world they often purge huge amounts of the human population because humans breed a lot faster than tau and that can lead to problems. At best the tau just have really good PR and you know that freedom of religion the Tau offer is eather other complete bull shit or if they do allow freedom of religion don't be surprised that you have a Chaos uprising because the tau don't under stand how Choas works. And while the dark gods might not bother to much with corrupting the tau as thier souls don't give much energy to the dark gods, humans remain their favourite snack. For often than not you'll see a Khorn or slannish uprising on tau words as of the four big guys they are the least sneaky.
And don't forget the Tau were stupid enough to trust the dark elder to help them fight against a NID invasion and not just any dark elder Veck himself, while thanks to the dark elder the tau didn't loss this war to the NIDS needless to say the dark elder are never to be trusted. They ended up stealing a whole planet population
Captain Harlock BLAM
@@shmee123ful still slightly better assholes is what we need, you said it yourself, I don't see any merit of clinging to dying empire that territory constantly under attack, shrunk and worlds destroyed, there is no risk on clinging to rotten carcass of once great man that sole existence need 1000 souls to be sacrificed every day each day for all time.
Roman has fallen time to move on.
Heroes dies but survivor survived, you want to be hero? Or survivor?
@@shmee123ful HIVEWORLDS! :/
i just saw this right after the civilian life in the imperium. Tau seems really tempting
Loving your stuff. 40 facts on the STCs and/or the lesser known ones :) Thank you.
On one hand, nice life in the Tau Empire, on the other hand, they fight to subdue their fellow humans into an alien empire and anyone who doesn't willingly join are sterilized.
So someone explain to me: What exactly are the benefits of being in the Imperium? You blindly follow what is ostensibly the Spanish Inquisition worshiping a corpse of a human. Not a god; a flesh and blood human. What exactly, aside from indoctrination, would urge you to remain in a civilization where you're ostensibly just a pawn, if not just a living resource to a fanatical priesthood? What is the figurative heaven to aspire to from the hell to avoid that is basically anything that isn't the Imperium?
Well, indoctrination and the fact that not staying means your local commisar will shoot you in the back of the head (or worse, make an example out of you).
The Emperor wills it.
Neither answers the question at all, since frankly death would be preferable from what I've seen of the Imperium. And "will it"? How? Isn't the Emperor just a corpse like Lenin or Mao Zedong?
Most human (regular ppl) will never got the chance to become cool n badass space marine, but become a guard(assuming they are not born with birth defect) and die instantly the moment they are deployed, only to be forgotten and their family never be inform and burial. While lthe undesired will be mindwash into a some sort of mechanic or forced to do hard labor with no rest
@@hotdogmakemehappy7337 And apparently some people wish they could live in such a world. Prolly thinking they'd be the space marines when there's an astronomically higher chance to end up as someone who'll most assuredly die.
Give us.... 40 facts on the Daemoncubala...
Do not listen to this madman!
They aint ready
You are trying to open a new eye of terror or something?
Hmmh... Daemoncubala eh?
Sounds interesting.
**Googles wiki article**
... I see... Hmmh.
**Looks at THE picture**
...
I have the weidest boner/hunger for a good steak right now.
... Well that escalated quickly
You ever have that time where you are a player of one of the Imperium armies (but mostly Imperial Guard and Space Marines) and a friend who plays Tau keeps trying to steal your spare model parts to make himself some Human Helpers. I remember one time my Tau Player fan who has very little knowledge on Imperial Guard lore stole a sprue of a Leman Russ (which I striped all the parts except for the Tank Commander parts) and a week later he came to the shop with an unpainted kit bashed model of a Human Helper made from the Tank Commander's head, a Fire Warrior's arms and the legs of a Catachan Jungle Fighter (which apparently is one of the older Catachan models). He has quite a few Human Helper models which some were most likely stolen from one of my sprues
I'd only been into Warhammer 40k for a few months. But in all honesty the tau are the greatest good that your ever gonna get in this universe.
Thanks for doing this video! I always wondered about this.
Could you guys do one similarly about relations between the Eldar and Humans? Kinda like this one, where you show how both the Imperium at large and the common citizen/soldier interacts with them?
Great video maybe a video about Tau cities?
That would be great!
FOR THE GREATER GOOD MY FELLOW GUE'VESA
Isn't the Imperium basically a theocracy? I think I'd rather take my chances with the Tau.
So is the Tau, whereas in the Imperium they worship the Emperor in the Tau they worship the ethereal caste or at least revere them as godlike.
Etherals aren't worshipped as gods unlike the Emperor.
Rennoc717 'Godlike' is a gross stretch. Ethereals are simply the ruling caste, and Tau are bred and conditioned to obey and respect the caste system.
Tau don't mind if integrated humans continue worshipping the Emperor so long as they acknowledge Ethereal secular authority. So that confirms the Tau aren't a theocracy. Their 'Greater Good' ideology is more of a militant philosophy than religion.
Hmm I could've sworn somewhere I read that Tau sort of revere Ethereals that way. Am I getting that confused to the tau have any sort of religion to them at all or is their beliefs purely the greater good. I'm an imperial player so I'm ignorant of the foul xenos.
Rennoc717 grearter good is basically space communism.
The Tau seem to be the best hope for Human kind ironically. They expect hard work, true, but don't seem to treat you like less than dirt like the Imperium seem to do.
An average Human joining the Tau is the best course for survival in an otherwise living hell of a universe.
Seems like a good deal to me. I'd definitely join the Tau Empire.
WTF, i love the Tau now
i would like to hear about the short alliance between the blood ravens and the necrons!
Tau: The one oasis of not-total-suckitude in the 40k Universe
topic? how about, Captain Titus and Lieutenant Mira Rule 34
DJ Pedobear oh god
DJ Pedobear top 40 facts about Captain Titus and Lieutenant Mira rule 34
How about "Is Titus a(n unplanned) Chosen of Khorne?"
o shit
Ever since I heard of the Tau and "The Greater good", I have always thought that they are the most honourable of the races.
I als ofound it hilarious when I played Dawn Of War Soulstorm and I heard the voice / Accent given to them.. .Very much a japanese trait and that also made me laugh out loud.
The Tau are very honourable and I am sure, that if the human armies, the sister, the Techpriets and the Imperial guard and Space Marines all sided with the Tau, there would be NOTHING to stop them.
It is clear though, that the Huamns are never doing things for the greater good and even today we are just parasites rthat destroy everyin in our path
You're a spaced out moralizer who should eliminate themselves, you watch one video and think "imperium bad, tau good" it's not that simple, the imperium has reasons for being the way it is, because the tau optimism is completely false and ended with near extinction when humanity tried it during the age of strife. But of course you have no idea about that
This is why I only use the tau they are the only “good” civilisation? Race?
Because they’re young. That’s the best explanation I can come up with.
Before the dark age of technology and during the first empire, humanity is implied to have been a lot like the Tau. Think kind of like humans in Mass Effect or Star Trek.
Or (if you want something from real life to draw from) the humans of this “first empire” were a lot like the Western Roman Empire before its fall. Cosmopolitan, powerful, wealthy, educated, and having a decent standard of living. Then the Roman Empire collapsed, became fractured, torn apart by civil war, and what eventually took on its name was the “Holy Roman Empire.” The HRE is the best, real life equivalent, to the Imperium of Man we have.
@@537monster Byzantine empire is Imperium of man we have today, Zealous and rife with strive constantly losing despite having the best military calvary and technology in the world in it's time.
Have obscenely ineffective administration and lots of people in power rivaling each other and too fractured to unified but sadly still bear same banner.
Only took one turkish man to capture constantinople to defeat this behemoth, same as imperium of man in any way, capture Terra and dispose of emperor the rest will fall.
I adore them
Can they too not fight in melee?
Sean Conley Farsights Enclaves aren't bad at it, but standard Tau forces use Kroot auxiliaries for close combat.
As much as regular guardsmen
"As much as regular guardsmen"
So... Not much?
OneMindSyndicate lies
Sean Conley They would be trained as regular guardsmens, because their entire purpose is to serve as a troops that is acceptably effective both at range and at melee, whereas tau suck at melee and are great marksmens and kroots are masters at melee but sucks at distance, gueve'sa are the jack of all trades
I'd really like to see them cover maybe an Imperial Guard defector in a Tau Homeworld as one of it's Guard with Tau Tech, I'd REALLY REALLY LOVE TO SEE THAT :D
Some facts about Malal/Malice, the fifth god of Chaos I DARE YOU
Not sure we can get to 40 though...
Yay for Malal
The goddamned Xanthites in the Inquisition need to get Malal back into the Warp from the friggin' Void of Retconnia, just so he'll stir up shit and ruin the plans of the other chaos gods. Make the damn chaos fight itself in the Immaterium and use up it's energy that way.
...
Because putting out a fire with a flamethrower always works.
xD
Yeah we can try, most of it will be conflicting with what we know of the universe now
OH MY GOD HE ANSWERED (* O *)
Shut up he doesn't exist
Imperium be damned!! Welcome Tao waifus!!
Darn tootin'! It's all greater good and blue anime girls from here on out. Humans of the greater good have the best lives in this reality-forsaken universe.
@@jediarcherbc709 Better than the Imperium in every way.
I would like to hear about the Dreadnoughts.
Unless I am mistaken, there is only a single reference made to the T'au sterilizing those under the T'au Empire. Which occurs in the non-canon ending to the Dawn of War: Dark Crusade computer game, in which dissident humans were rumored to be sterilized. We know it isn't the canon ending because the T'au Empire obviously did NOT win canonically in Dawn of War: Dark Crusade. So please lets have the idea that T'au sterilize other races be put aside and no longer brought up!
I’m definitely joining the Tau Empire, but mostly on Farsight’s faction.
I am a former Inquisitor Comissar, a renegade Chaos psyker, and now a Tau Jäger.
& now you will be killed for making the Greater Good God ;)
Heresy is a delusion to the mad.
How can you worship the Emperor and yet turn your back on him by siding with Xenos?
You mean the same as Christians does and have done.
Well i guess its a form of deradicalization.
You worship the emperor, that saves mankind from chaos and other evil, but you dont want to kil all xenos and stuff.
From a philosophical perspective the Emperor himself stated that the Imperium was doomed following the Horus heresy and failure of the web way project. If a human truly believes that by siding with the Tau they will bring about the ultimate survival of humanity as a species then you could argue they are more faithfully supporting the spirit of what the Emperor wanted for mankind than even the Astartes or the Ecclesiarchs do.
Rennoc717 yet you started a debate, good one dude
Goobernational
The emperor was a good guy, no doubt. The Imperium of Man on the other hand are nothing more than space Nazis.
Another great job explaining a detailed part of the WH40K world. How about the Ogryn? Again, great job. Keep it coming.
I was searching for this video the other day ago, makes sense why i couldnt find it.
They need to be in the next Tau Codex. Serious, god knows why they aren't yet.
Suggestion: how would you tell the tale of the Squats return to the 40k universe if GW asked you personally?
If I lived in that Universe the first thing id do is to desert to the T‘au
I find it adorable
The xeno's who think they're winning. Its only a matter of time before the imperium declares exterminatus against the entirety of tau space. Assuming the tyrainds don't kill them first.
Zachary Hawley it'll probably be tyranids
Zachary Hawley I heard the emperor actually likes a tau, Commander Farsight
hes the only one who abandoned the philosophy of Tau and went to make his own thing.
MrAnimepredator and the emperor approves of it
bleach drinker Yeah that particular one might be saved by the grace of the emperor but the rest of them are screwed.
I'd certainly join them! A Tau empire is the most likely to bring true peace, and individuals are not treated like serfs like in the Imperium, plus Tau dominance would help weaken chaos as they themselves cannot be corrupted or possessed not do they add to the chaos powers strength.
its amazing how well the tau are willing to absorb other races
very Noble
Guess we know who the good guys are in the 40K universe huh. Go Tau. 1. 2 3. 4 who are we for. Tau Tau Yeah. Tau!!!
I am a proud Gue'vesa. ¡For the Greater Good!
U cant blame these ppl for Turning to Tau for support...The Imp Empire Left them to DIE! There should be a Inquiry in to those type of things,But...Black Templar's should be sent to ''Help'' the Plant to the Emperor side again :D
than they should have died with their loyalty intact. now they will never have the Emperors hand on their shoulders again, instead a cold bolter against their heads.
IT IS BETTER TO DIE FOR THE EMPEROR THAN TO LIVE FOR YOURSELF! THEY ARE FAITHLESS TRAITORS!
Emperor is rotten carcass though quite literally he will never move again because when he does he will personally purge the Imperium maybe resulting bloodbath so bloody it would create another chaos God.
Imperium is the traitor to Emperor cause, how can a traitor call others traitor?
the tau don't seem all that bad. I would consider joining them.
If we were to give up our lives, we will die for the greater good. We are the space marines of the greater good, the liberator of the humankind, we will triumph upon those who threaten humanity's freedom.
(SPAMS Guevesa so annoyingly to space marines until they feel like fighting tyranid swarms.)
“Have meaning in the tau empire”
*laughs so hard that my lungs start to crack*
40 facts about Tau Cities, and please a video about KROOT allies like their origin or how did they end up with Tau. FTGD.
Krot were almost wiped out by orks, Tau commenders impressed by Kroot determination not only helped them to defeat orks, but also gave them support in reclaiming their once collonised planets.
jozef kalinowski i know,but there is more to it.
Freshnez I fyou want more just watch Arch's video.
Ofcourse.
... I suggested this to them... I feel special now xD
Everyone here is talking about how it is heresy, but if your ass woke up in 40k I can guarantee that everyone here would zoom over to the Tau. Like damn, space Soviet Union isn't that bad, especially when it's an even more open society.
Excommu-nic-ah-tey Tray-tor-is. Just so we're on the same page.
The Tau never conquered Kronus. The Blood Ravens Canonically won that one.
Tau are the most "good" faction in all Warhammer universe.
I wanna see an AU who the Imperium of Man are in fact, xenophile good boys.
@Jay Bee most Good and lesser evil and less asshole is much the same. Different wording but still the same.
suggestion times when humans and elder have fought together against common enemy
*Well, Eldarians and humans do have much stories back then*
Tau diplomat: “Good day to you humans! I came with peace....”
Space Marine: “HERETIC! DIE BLUE SKIN! NO MERCY! FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAAAAAA”
Meanwhile all the citizens suffering in the nearby hive-cities losing out on their likely only chance of a good existence.
The imperium is too far gone. Stop calling our true allies "Xenos" and relent to the greater good.
man the more i learn about the Tau Empire the more i admire them. my only problem is their rigid Caste system, but that's because i am Human in a world long before the Imperium and my social understanding places individuality as a high cultural priority. the Tau Empire have spent centuries perfecting their Caste system, so much so it has colored the Tau physiology. i'd be fine with Being a Human living in one of the frontier colonies (particularly growing up on one). the "greater good" system the Tau Empire employs works well in expanding relatively slowly: incorporate alien world, improve the quality of life and thus productivity of said world, enjoy the benefits of another world working for the Greater Good, then move on. can take a while to reach a perfect system for each world incorporated.
Tau are so awesome ^_^