Gerber MP600 Multiplier : RemGrit Saw Test

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มิ.ย. 2018
  • This supposedly universal saw does not saw much.
    Luckily, I was able to find different metal saw blades fitting on the blade driver but no wood saw!
    In short, another Gerber debility that could have offered two real blades, one for wood, one for hard metal.
    Cette scie prétendument universelle ne scie pas grand-chose.
    Par chance, j'ai pu trouver différentes lames de scie à métal s'adaptant sur le porte-lame mais pas de scie à bois !
    Bref, encore une débilité de Gerber qui aurait pu offrir deux vraies lames, une pour le bois, une pour le métal dur.
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  • @simonh6371
    @simonh6371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A very good review/test as always however looking at the comments I'd like to clarify a couple of things. Firstly this is just a Tungsten grit jigsaw blade, with a Black and Decker type fitting, as opposed to a Bosch fitting, which doesn't have a hole and is sometimes referred to as bayonet fitting. Remgrit is just a brand from the USA, but there are a lot of other manufacturers of this blade. Secondly Black and Decker fitting jigsaw blades are pretty commonplace and inexpensive, at least where I am, the UK, and come in a wide variety of types and teeth spacings. I can buy a pack of 14 on ebay with wood, metal and plastic saws, in a variety of teeth spacings, for just £7, or I can even buy them off the shelf in local hardware stores. The mistake a lot of people make when looking for extra or replacement blades is to look for ''Remgrit'' blades as if that brand is a unique configuration, which it isn't. The only reason that Gerber put a Tungsten grit blade on the MP600 bladeless is that this tool is devised to be TSA compliant i.e. suitable to be taken through airport security, and any blade with teeth may not fulfil these criteria. Fyi Tungsten carbide blades are designed for cutting through tiles, however as has been demonstrated, they also fare well against metal e.g. padlocks. They have also gone one step further by making it possible to remove this saw blade and basically throw it in the bin as it's easily replaceable, should any over zealous airport security employee not be happy to let the tool through with this blade, which is a better option than having the tool confiscated. The only other solution would have been to completely leave out any type of saw or saw blade compatible fitting. I am happy that they found a compromise as they did.
    P. S. for example: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232409180985?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=232409180985&targetid=1000147647820&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9045944&poi=&campaignid=10195651586&mkgroupid=107296210212&rlsatarget=pla-1000147647820&abcId=1145987&merchantid=113814081&gclid=CjwKCAiA57D_BRAZEiwAZcfCxYAE1SWoihttBkYua6ExNrU51TzrPvWa6j4eSkoJVdPQphyqdKd9rBoC4sQQAvD_BwE

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The RemGrit blade is very bad, it is useless. Only a model of MP600 equipped with this saw does not have a knife blade, the model MP600 Bladeless. The MP600 Pro Scout model, which has this saw, does not agree with the TSA ... The blade exchanger is very bad since most saws with same shank are too thick! So, most of the time, you can't trust saw presentations on the internet if there is no thickness indication. I think this saw thing is still Gerber's nonsense ...

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@diezelle57 I've used the Remgrit blade to cut through metal and I've seen a youtuber cut through a lock bar with one. I must admit I haven't actually tried other jigsaw blades but I have ordered a replacement tungsten carbide blade (not Remgrit brand) for my MP600 bladeless. I agree it's not the best solution as it is a bit wobbly in the holder, and I don't understand why they have it on the Pro Scout model, but as I said before I think they have it on the bladeless to cover themselves for TSA compliancy.

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonh6371 I confirm that this saw does not cut anything. It was stupid to put this saw on the Pro Scout which is not bladeless. I confirm the problem with the blade exchanger.

  • @TheKimjoh560
    @TheKimjoh560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did you ever find a sawblade for the Surge that could take on a padlock? I kind of like that idea because its the hardest material I would ever need to cut. For example I broke my key of in my bike lock the other day and had to take a taxi home. I have been looking at the bosch series of blade for ceramics tiles but unsure if it would work.

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Surge blade exchanger accepts T-jigsaw hacksaws that can be found everywhere.

    • @TheKimjoh560
      @TheKimjoh560 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@diezelle57 Yeah, I know. Its my third surgebecause I keep losing them lol. But bosch-style T-shank blades come in many configurations. I was curious if you found a specific type that works well on hardened steel. Like the carbide infused blades used for ceramics

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheKimjoh560 So I don't know, I never tried, sorry.

  • @seanrobinson6407
    @seanrobinson6407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On the first attempt the kerf was too thin from a different blade. I just wanted to use the word kerf. Tungsten carbide grit blades are not ideal for that application by the way. Didn't you have specialized wood cutting jig saw blades in the pouch?

    • @seanrobinson6407
      @seanrobinson6407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Look 0:10. I think if you grab the yellow one and install that on the multi tool you will cut dowels like nobody's business, and I think the one in front of it is a hacksaw blade for the copper pipe. I suspect you know this, but there is tomfoolery afoot. I just wanted to use the words tomfoolery and afoot. Oh, got to the end where you show that you do know how to change the blades. So the takeaway is the tool comes with a Remgrit and accepts other types of blades. There, I saved 8 and a half minutes. Also, when does one ever cut pipe at a 45 degree angle?

  • @techwg
    @techwg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Universal fitting... It comes with a tile cutting remgrit saw blade but you put in what ever saw for what materials you are working with. The reason I go with the remgrit version is in a survival SHTF situation I love the idea of being able to take 5-15 mins and cut off a padlock using my EDC multitool. You cannot complain that one sawblade doesn't do everything... that has NOTHING to do with Gerber and everything to do with the saw blade choice, which you can swap and change at will......

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You do not know anything about it :) The Remgrit blade is a bad joke. The Gerber blade holder accepts no commercially available blades (wood saws, hacksaws). Leatherman had the intelligence to modify the blade of his Surge for this compatibility. With the Surge, you can carry a wood saw and a hacksaw, see more if you wish, all this fits easily in its sheath.

    • @techwg
      @techwg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I do know about it because I own two different MP600 multi-pliers, one bladeless for UK carry and the other a pro-scout that I took the blade out myself. Both have the saw attachment. I will admit they are more difficult to find but I buy mine on eBay, by Draper. Look for tile jigsaw blades and look for the ones that are straight, have the half moon on the back and have the hole too. I can agree that a better, more readily available attachment system would be better but the fact is that this works. Also, this style of saw blade is the standard in America, where the tools are made and where the military who uses them are from.

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But no, there is not only a problem of emanchement with the blade holder, there is also a thickness to respect: too thick, the blade does not fit. On eBay, I can not find, you would have or give a link! Leatherman has solved the problem, standard emanchement and spring thickness correction, not Gerber. Gerber does not solve any design problem, that's what makes it so charming. Carbide inserts that break, inserts that have never been available (Strata), the list is long things that Gerber could correct. I'm not going to piss off buying an MP600 with a single usable and deplorable saw! Black & Decker jigsaw blades are too thick !!! In addition, you tell me to go see on eBay as if you do not find these blades in DIY stores. But even if we find them everywhere in the US, if Gerber only wants to sell in the US, that's his problem. We must stop being complacent and soft, we must be fair and hard.

    • @techwg
      @techwg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Then this is the wrong tool for you. You can't buy a knife and complain if it snaps when you pry something with it. If you need something with a different saw connector type, then buy a different tool. Your opinion does not make this a bad tool, it means this tool is not a good fit for your needs. It is that simple. The US military are issued an MP600 version of this multitool. In daily life I never ever ever need a saw. This is for emergency only use in my opinion, to cut through metal.

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But no, Gerber is not Leatherman, nor is he Victorinox, that's all. I collect multi-tools, I have 99 different models of all the brands, I can recognize a problem of design! :) If I had to buy only one multi-tool, it certainly would not be a Gerber or a SOG. Another example is the Gerber Center-Drive, of which Gerber is so proud, a file with only two sides, poorly tooled, inserts that break at the least nail, a shame.

  • @slavawt
    @slavawt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good)))

  • @user-ti5bi2qy5n
    @user-ti5bi2qy5n 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Je vais faire plusieurs types de scies pour GERBER aujourd'hui ~ ~!

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Je suis curieux et impatient de voir cela ! :)

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pourquoi faire? On peut en acheter dans les magasins de bricollage. Il ne s'agit que d'une lame de scie sauteuse, raccord Black & Decker. Remgrit est seulement une marque, mais il y a beaucoup d'autre fabricants de cette espece de lame, de tungsten carbide, et de plus il y en a pour bois, acier, plastique et cetera. www.amazon.fr/Ensemble-Decker-sauteuse-Plastique-Durable/dp/B08JY33LBK/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=lame+scie+sauteuse+black+et+decker&qid=1609329335&sr=8-2

    • @cadenhugg1611
      @cadenhugg1611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonh6371 can you send me the link of this

  • @user-ti5bi2qy5n
    @user-ti5bi2qy5n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh! RemGrit Je savais que tout était un but, mais ce n'était pas le cas, c'était pour couper de l'aluminium, je ne voyais pas pour couper de l'aluminium dans un atelier d'outillage.

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oui, cette lame RemGrit est à éviter et pour l'outil porte-lame, il vaut évidemment mieux choisir le Leatherman Surge qui, contrairement au MP600, peut être facilement équipé avec différentes lames.

    • @user-ti5bi2qy5n
      @user-ti5bi2qy5n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      diezelle57 Votre expérience d'aujourd'hui sera d'une grande aide pour les personnes qui ne savent pas comment utiliser RemGrit et vous m'avez montré la scène de test RemGrit pour la première fois sur TH-cam.

  • @soulpaladin7866
    @soulpaladin7866 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doesn't the tree cut well?

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  ปีที่แล้ว

      = ??? remgrit ?

    • @soulpaladin7866
      @soulpaladin7866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The sentence is not smooth because I used a translator. Yes remgrit...

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soulpaladin7866
      The Remgrit saw is worth nothing: always replace it with a jigsaw with the corresponding fitting (which is not obvious, particularly in terms of the geometry of the allowable thickness).
      La scie Remgrit ne vaut rien : toujours la remplacer par scie sauteuse avec l'emmachement correspondant (ce qui n'est pas évident notamment au niveau de la géométrie de l'épaisseur admissible).

    • @soulpaladin7866
      @soulpaladin7866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@diezelle57 thank you