I recently bought my 991.2 GT3 with pdk and just 9k km on it for 165k back in september here in germany. Got it cheaper compared to similar specced ones, they did go for around 180-190. Now I'm thinking that I bought right at the end of the boom and at the worst possible moment lol. But I think thats okay, cause my buying price was relatvely low compared to the whole market. So happy that I found this channel.
Everyone is scared of the 991.1 3.8L blowing up on them; by now, all the engines that have the potential to blow up have blown up; they are such good deals if you are thinking of getting into a GT3. Downsides, PDK only, not that desirable from a resale standpoint.
Excellent. The market is starting to reflect the true qualities of these cars. The two best iterations are becoming clear: 992 if you want modern ability and VAG robot built ease - but will still be superseded; 997.2 if you want rarity, raw feel, a Mezger engine and Porsche hand build - absolute classic. The lesser cars will fall away: 996 was very good, but has 'polarising' (to be kind) looks; the 997.1 was fragile, likewise 991.1. The 991.2 is very, very good but mass produced and will be forever in the 992's shadow.
As for the 991.2 gt3, I think it has a bright future, the performance is very similar to the 992 and the aesthetics of the 991.2, especially at the rear, are much better. For a fine example, with a few km, (in Europe) between 170 and 200k are required.
I do not like the nose, rear end, center console, gauge cluster, or the cylon rear light on the 992. IMHO the 991 and 997 are the best looking modern Porsches.
@@flsupraguy Probably about 5%. More then likely its for vanity. The regular GT3 has the "looks" of a more special car. The touring is for people who don't care, and know that at a track day it wouldn't matter for a few extra tenths of a second. No one is wheel-to-wheel racing a non-GT3 cup car.
@@flsupraguy And thank God for that. But you and your buddies aren't going wheel-to-wheel. Which there is nothing wrong with that. Real FIA roll cages exist for that reason. I wouldn't want to wad up my streetcar because some dick divebombs into a corner for a position.
I own a 2015 991.1 with the original F-series engine. Should it break before the 10 years expire, I’ll get a new G-series. Should it break thereafter, Porsche approved warranty will cover the same an much more. The .1 is the rarer car, IMO looks better than a .2, and doesn’t have OPF i.e. sounds better. I’d only prefer a .2 if I’d strive for a manual.
The engine failure rate in the .1’s is just too great to take a chance on one unless it’s under warranty. Once the warranty is over in a couple years, resale value is definitely going to take a hit. The .2 is a better car all the way around with many improvements. By the way, the .1’s and 2’s sound equally awesome, as there is no OPF on .2’s as you stated - it only started on the 992’s in Europe
Sir ,If possible could you conduct analysis on the following makes & models for 2023 : 1 ) Porsche Macans ( All variants) ; 2) Mercedes G Wagons and Ford Bronco Gen. 1 (1966-1979) Thank You
Can you cover the updates in the Jaguar F type market. I'm seeing prices come down finally for 16-18 v8 R's. Do we think good examples with reasonable milage can get to 50K in 2023?
992 delivery started to slow down, as rumors (from my dealership at least) has that Porsche is reducing output in 2023. They aren't even taking deposit for new orders anymore.
There is a 997.1 for sale in Texas for 50k below market because it has been in an accident if you are using car gurus. This would significantly impact results if under 10 examples in USA.
I did a similar study of the 992 on my channel recently but you are the absolute MVP. I don't think people realize how hard it is to make this kind of content. Takes a lot of work. Thanks for studying this closely as with many, I'm very interested in the 992 GT3 market and hope that you do an update to this video in the May/June timeframe to see how it's going then and if the 9% drop trend is continuing.
I update the GT3 market videos every 3 months, so stayed tuned for that. It indeed requires a lot of work behind to scenes to put all of this together 😅.
Well, hold my American Pressed Coffee ☕️. What we have here is with the the GT productlines is the line in the sand that differentiate the average person from the extraordinary person. If Porsche sell their GT car to an average person then what is the inventive to for the extraordinary person drive these machines. Nothing really has changed, men and women keep score today by the quality of horses they have in the stable. We are well aware that anyone can buy a horse, however not everyone understands the responsibility that is entailed when they buy a racing horse. These cars are mere commodities that trade hands among the extraordinary people. My solution is stop being ordinary in you life, and do extraordinary werks to attain one of these machines. No one cares about you wanting a GT car.
@@Interesting365 I also worked the prison fryer...as a trustee. When I got out I taught myself to code and had a GT3 within 6 years. I wouldn't call what I do extraordinary though
I recently bought my 991.2 GT3 with pdk and just 9k km on it for 165k back in september here in germany. Got it cheaper compared to similar specced ones, they did go for around 180-190. Now I'm thinking that I bought right at the end of the boom and at the worst possible moment lol. But I think thats okay, cause my buying price was relatvely low compared to the whole market. So happy that I found this channel.
As long as the 991.2 is your dream car, it doesn't matter. If you want to trade it, it will matter.
I don't know in Germany but in Italy a 991.2 gt3 with less than 10,000 km and with a good set-up requires between 170 and 200k.
Thank you for the video. Would you do a video for the nsx ?
Update please!
Pls look into the G Wagen
I'd like to see your analysis on the newer Aston Martin Vantages.
All Vantages please :)
Did you see this one already? th-cam.com/video/WAiKUP2xIgo/w-d-xo.html
Everyone is scared of the 991.1 3.8L blowing up on them; by now, all the engines that have the potential to blow up have blown up; they are such good deals if you are thinking of getting into a GT3. Downsides, PDK only, not that desirable from a resale standpoint.
GT3 market split was perfect!!! What about the 991Speedster prices and future? What to do….? Please some info about this one🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Excellent. The market is starting to reflect the true qualities of these cars. The two best iterations are becoming clear: 992 if you want modern ability and VAG robot built ease - but will still be superseded; 997.2 if you want rarity, raw feel, a Mezger engine and Porsche hand build - absolute classic. The lesser cars will fall away: 996 was very good, but has 'polarising' (to be kind) looks; the 997.1 was fragile, likewise 991.1. The 991.2 is very, very good but mass produced and will be forever in the 992's shadow.
Polarizing your ass. 😊
As for the 991.2 gt3, I think it has a bright future, the performance is very similar to the 992 and the aesthetics of the 991.2, especially at the rear, are much better. For a fine example, with a few km, (in Europe) between 170 and 200k are required.
I do not like the nose, rear end, center console, gauge cluster, or the cylon rear light on the 992. IMHO the 991 and 997 are the best looking modern Porsches.
A $40K premium for the $0 Touring option. Why would anyone order a non touring?
Because some actually track their cars.....
@@flsupraguy Probably about 5%. More then likely its for vanity. The regular GT3 has the "looks" of a more special car. The touring is for people who don't care, and know that at a track day it wouldn't matter for a few extra tenths of a second. No one is wheel-to-wheel racing a non-GT3 cup car.
@@CS-Loc lol I guess I'm the exception then along with other buddies I track with....
@@flsupraguy And thank God for that. But you and your buddies aren't going wheel-to-wheel. Which there is nothing wrong with that. Real FIA roll cages exist for that reason. I wouldn't want to wad up my streetcar because some dick divebombs into a corner for a position.
@@CS-Loc full cage in my gt3, we do fine
Love to see market trends for new BMW M3 & M4 though very recent introduction with G80 series.
I own a 2015 991.1 with the original F-series engine. Should it break before the 10 years expire, I’ll get a new G-series. Should it break thereafter, Porsche approved warranty will cover the same an much more. The .1 is the rarer car, IMO looks better than a .2, and doesn’t have OPF i.e. sounds better. I’d only prefer a .2 if I’d strive for a manual.
The engine failure rate in the .1’s is just too great to take a chance on one unless it’s under warranty. Once the warranty is over in a couple years, resale value is definitely going to take a hit. The .2 is a better car all the way around with many improvements. By the way, the .1’s and 2’s sound equally awesome, as there is no OPF on .2’s as you stated - it only started on the 992’s in Europe
Please do a deep dive on the BMW M3/M4 market. I am most interested in the E92 M3 6MT market. Please Please Please!
Please please please please go down 991.2. I need one and can’t be paying $200k
Whomever owns a 997.2 GT3, hold onto it for dear life!
964 please!
964 analysis please
But they sell these cars new waaaaay over MSRP.
Excellent video. Thank you!
Sir ,If possible could you conduct analysis on the following makes & models for 2023 : 1 ) Porsche Macans ( All variants) ; 2) Mercedes G Wagons and Ford Bronco Gen. 1 (1966-1979)
Thank You
Can you cover the updates in the Jaguar F type market. I'm seeing prices come down finally for 16-18 v8 R's. Do we think good examples with reasonable milage can get to 50K in 2023?
Great video, I am hooked!! Would you be able to make a similar video covering the Australian GT3\GT3RSmarket?
992 delivery started to slow down, as rumors (from my dealership at least) has that Porsche is reducing output in 2023. They aren't even taking deposit for new orders anymore.
Basically, with ALL these price analysis, I'm not buying till used market gets close to near pre-covid. yeah i might be waiting a little while.
Thanks for all your videos. What about gt3 rs (997.1-997.2 -991.1-991.2)? Best regards
Love your analysis.. Can you please do the Gen 5 Doge Viper ACR E.. prices have been very high and I wonder if they will drop or rise? Thank you.
Genius... obviously the 992 it on a steady fall... is it somewhat safe to say the 991.2 is stabilizing?
This needs an update, seems like 997’s are going down.
An update is coming in 4-6 weeks.
your prices are for usa, double european prices, and you forget the dollar is up 20%
997 Carrera please
Thanks u very mucho
Great video! Can you do the same for the Ferrari 360 and Viper RT10s? 🙏🏼
Targa
There is a 997.1 for sale in Texas for 50k below market because it has been in an accident if you are using car gurus. This would significantly impact results if under 10 examples in USA.
Thanks. Only clean titles are included but sometimes the data on this is not accurate.
What do you see in the GT3 RS market? Same trends?
Can you do the Shelby GT 500 and 350 2010 and beyond?
Can you please do a Ferrari Analysis?
There is a Ferrari playlist on the channel, check it out.
Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio
Great video, do you have any insight into the Turbo market?
th-cam.com/video/Q6Dca2jOaps/w-d-xo.html
Does this not apply to rs versions?
*Recent market update:* th-cam.com/video/oYxmY_SWM5c/w-d-xo.html
What car would you like to see analysed next?
GT3 RS
A Ferrari V8 comparison between the 355, 360, 430, 458 and 488 would be interesting
Something like this? th-cam.com/video/pK_7-rwd5OY/w-d-xo.html
@@fourwheeltrader Please do a deep dive on the BMW M3/M4 market. I am most interested in the E92 M3 6MT market. Please Please Please!
GT2 RS
Is there enough data to make a GT4 video?
You can find the latest gt4 market update in the porsche playlist.
This will be good.
How about seasonal variations its winter!
That's of course an important factor. But the decrease rate is higher than in previous years and the decrease started already during the summer.
I did a similar study of the 992 on my channel recently but you are the absolute MVP. I don't think people realize how hard it is to make this kind of content. Takes a lot of work. Thanks for studying this closely as with many, I'm very interested in the 992 GT3 market and hope that you do an update to this video in the May/June timeframe to see how it's going then and if the 9% drop trend is continuing.
I update the GT3 market videos every 3 months, so stayed tuned for that. It indeed requires a lot of work behind to scenes to put all of this together 😅.
Which do you think will appreciate more? 997.1 GT3 vs. 996 Turbo X50 vs. 997 TT?
GT3 easy
GT3 probably.
Well, hold my American Pressed Coffee ☕️. What we have here is with the the GT productlines is the line in the sand that differentiate the average person from the extraordinary person. If Porsche sell their GT car to an average person then what is the inventive to for the extraordinary person drive these machines. Nothing really has changed, men and women keep score today by the quality of horses they have in the stable. We are well aware that anyone can buy a horse, however not everyone understands the responsibility that is entailed when they buy a racing horse. These cars are mere commodities that trade hands among the extraordinary people. My solution is stop being ordinary in you life, and do extraordinary werks to attain one of these machines. No one cares about you wanting a GT car.
What extraordinary things are you doing out of interest??
@@stu4181 I do business. Specifically, I mind my business. In all seriousness I work the fryer at the state prison.
@@Interesting365 I also worked the prison fryer...as a trustee. When I got out I taught myself to code and had a GT3 within 6 years. I wouldn't call what I do extraordinary though