Dr Shipman was my parents GP and would have been mine but he was arrested when my mum was pregnant with me. I love seeing more people talk about this case
It’s ok some people have the way of putting a spell on others good thing she wasn’t harmed a lot of people were appalled and mad that there was suspicion of his actions
Maybe your grandma was nice to him… I haven’t gotten into the video but maybe the people he hurt were ppl that pissed him off that day lol. when I was a waxer I had a few racist clients … I would make their Brazilian wax hurt extra lol
@@ijfisjjf1916 well that's the internet for you! most people watching probably wouldn't even have been alive when he was practicing (myself included) hahaha
I'm blind and I love that you give so much detail verbally and don't rely on showing pictures or reading extracts 😁 love your channel! I don't know whether sight impairment or blindness is in the back of your mind when you make your videos, but even if it's not I appreciate it! Xx
@@NoneYaBusiness there is apps available for people who are blind to be able to use technology - I’d assume something like that with voice recognition to type!
He was even worse than the average serial killer because he was in a position of authority and his patients trusted him and he betrayed that trust in the worst way imaginable.
@@EllaJay yes but he used his position as a doctor to rope them in so they would gain his trust and held himself up as a pillar of society and an all caring doctor when really he was killing his own patients and stealing their inheritance.
@@seandelap6268 agreed I don't know why it's worse when it's a doctor, nurse or police officer. This plus the number of how many people was affected. All for what a drug problem. That's fucked up I can't understand how no one noticed he was that high all the time. There would have been so many mistakes he made also causing death. The fact kids knew he was the man to go to for drugs. I'm blows away
Doctors secretly being murderers is one of my biggest fears. I have a genetic incurable disease and always have to go to several doctors every month. Scary.
Same!!! I have 2 auto immune diseases plus other stuff so im at drs allot as well. I was also a medic in the army, so i know how easy it coukd be for dr to do stuff like this! I hope that you get and stay healthy, prayers.
For once, we can honestly say the parent didn't have a hand in why they went nuts. Goes to show sometimes you can try your absolute best as a parent, but people make their own decisions in the end.
I wouldn't be so completly sure because to know if there was issues in his upbringing we would've needed to look at if from the inside. So many things seem "normal" from the outside but we don't really know unless we were close to the situation. Most situations of mental illnesses tend to be a mix of "nature" and "nurture" not only just one. It is super extremly rare for someone to be "born 'evil'". In his situation there could have been a lot of red flags that were ignored by the parents or others around him. Maybe the relationship between him and his mother could've been a bit toxic or maybe with his father but since it was in an area were people would see it as normal it could have been overlooked. The fact that they were very religious could also have an effect in his upbringing too since many (not always and depends where and who are in charge) religions and their rules can be so controling and demanding to the point that people would repress themselves and their emotions that can distort their perception of how things are or should be. Yes all these things can also depend on the predisposition of the person but the enviorment also has an effect. Like I said it is not only one or the other, sometimes it is an accumulation of internal and enviormental factors. And there are so many that no one really knows.
@@diaryofarealmom3264 Actually both are very important for human's development. If we were only nature we wouldn't have culture, history, languages, etc. If we were only nurture we wouldn't be individuals with our own predispositions and quirks.
Girl, I just wanted to say thank you for giving a content warning including terminal cancer. I lost my mom to terminal cancer 3 years ago, and if I watched this video any time before 2 years I would have had to click away. Thanks for looking out for those who aren’t normally thought of!
I list my grandad to terminal cancer on New Year’s Eve so I know what you are going through but I’m sure yours is much harder to deal with seeing as it was your mother. I hope you’re doing ok now
Not normally thought of??? Are you serious, cancer is the biggest killer of human beings, everyone has a brush with it be it with you having it or someone close to you having it. Everyone losses people to cancer, nothing should have a "trigger warning" because that's just life... Shit happens and we die... Suck it up buttercup and learn to deal with it.
Hello Eleanor!! Please do a video on the “xijiang female boss” or “yang hotel case” it’s about a boss who killed 16 of her employees, sold all their body parts and organs on the black market. Apparently there’s a famous photo of all the employees heads in a pile.. I’m just extremely curious about this case but I’m terrible at doing research. I can’t find any true crime youtubers you have done a video on it either. It’s truly horrific but I think you’d make a fantastic video on it.
My great grandma was killed by him, my family appeared in a documentary about shipman and we were invoked in the inquest which holds information that has not been made to the public, I’d be happy to share what I know about this man in addition to what is known by the public.
@@longlivelinzi you don’t know that. it’s probably really personal and she doesn’t want to share it. but if someone wants to hear it she’ll probably tell them
He was my grandmothers doctor and was in his victim range, my family think the only reason why he never tried to hurt my grandmother was because my grandfather was always with her when he visited their house
could you do alison botha? she was stabbed and almost decapitated and managed to walk for help whilst holding up her own head and holding intenstines and miraculously survived!!
Oh yes.. her case is absolutely brutal.. in South Africa right? She wrote about her ordeal.. it’s amazing that she survived her attackers. Strong woman..
My dad is an opioid addict, but he had the bravery and intelligence to at least come clean to the family before we all found out ourselves or got suspicious. we didn’t have to piece everything together and confront him, he just came clean and honestly for that i am grateful. He’s now nearly 6 months sober ❤️ just sharing because of the opioid addiction aspect of this video.
I am so happy for you and your family. Addiction can end in very bad ways, my mother recently passed away from opioid addiction. Best of wishes to you and your family! ❤
"he was just a ....dick." killed me. My hubby and I were watching/listening to you while "tea time" is being prepared and he said "I just love her voice"
@@viiperbiite LOL. No! I was joking. Weve been together 15 years and yes Im gay (like it matters). Its a very odd and seemingly rude question to ask esp on Eleanor's channel.
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your content warnings before the video starts! I know some people may think “it’s true crime, of course there’s going to be hard topics talked about, no need for warnings” but there are specific things I can’t really listen to when the rest of the case doesn’t bother me at all. Might not make sense to some people but that’s how it can be at times!
Thank you so much for this lovely comment! I'm so glad the warnings help, I'd hate for a particular topic to trip someone up unexpectedly. Some people just don't realise that certain topics hit deeper for different people.
i appreciate the warnings so much too!!! even if i'm not gonna click off it's so helpful to have those warnings before hand for soemthing that is sensitive for me :) thank u eleanor
I also appreciate the warnings, including any mention of animal abuse. I listened recently to a Real Crimes documentary and this guy blurted something out about animal abuse with no warning and I just had to shut it down. It just impacted me so much. So, thank you, Eleanor.
Brando walker, my friend got murderd and there was almost to coverage I just want people to hear his story it would mean a lot for you to cover it,love you lots and everything you do
Another messed up medical "professional" - Beverly Allitt. She was a British nurse who was convicted of murdering four children, attempting to murder three other children, and causing grievous bodily harm to a further six. All between February and April 1991! Scarily, she's currently being held in a maximum security psychiatric hospital, however her minimum tariff of 30 years is almost up. If she's deemed "fit" she could be transferred to a prison and be given the right to apply for parole! That's a damn scary thought! I love your videos. They are really well researched and interesting to watch. They really brighten my day x
@@jennieredhead I’ve just gone to search for it myself and I can’t find it anywhere either 🤷🏽♀️ maybe it got taken down or maybe I’m mistaken, I’m sure I watched it though
I love how… natural? Comfortable? Eleanor acts in this video. The little comments that didn’t really belong to the case, the giggles… I love her usual videos, but in this one she seemed like she was having a good day. I’m happy for her :)
Knew this was Harold Shipman, my husband’s nan had him when he was in Hyde but luckily he was ,i guess, feeling lazy that day and wasn’t helpful, so she saw someone else the next day. Unfortunately she is no longer with us 💔but thankfully, not because of him.
Addicts are in denial themselves and full of shame so being upset that he didn't tell her is completely common. If you think you don't have a problem you aren't going to tell anyone you have a problem
Yeah the deceit in a relationship where someone has an addiction is horrible when you love someone and they meant to love you but they lie and hide things from you because of their addiction it does make you upset.
@@emmaw944 however it does need to be remembered that their brains are so chemically altered that they literally cannot remember and think outside of the drugs they are addicted to- when they dont consume it they have almost no serotonin and thus feel like an intense pain and have to take the drug to ease that. Im not an addict but theres been more research done on the affects of addiction and its not such a choice or sometimes even curable
Thank you for the terminal cancer warning. Many people overlook it or don’t think to warn about it but you’re extremely thorough and respectful and it really means a lot
My grandad was in prison with dr. Death. In prison he had to be transferred as he was taking control of the section he was in. He could control the inmates and the guards by confusing, gas lighting and manipulating them all. He was then moved to another prison and had to be by himself at all times. Wierd guy.
Also I once encountered someone who was a prison officer and had Harold Shipman chained to him to take him to a hospital appointment and he said that he was "a very arrogant little man" and described him as "snidey and evil".
I just wanted to say a warm thank you for that cancer content warning. It's not often that content creators think of this. As a survivor, I get horrible anxiety around the topic and I'm glad I was given the opportunity to click out and simply watch another case. Keep up the wonderful work. Love the channel!
Eleanore : " I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video " Eleanore 3 mins later : " No one wanted to hang out with him bc he was .... a dick "
Been waiting for this one, my mum went to school with one of his sons and went over to their house multiple times, it’s scary how he was doing all this behind closed doors. Also we love you Eleanor!! x
He was my nan’s doctor before she moved house and got a new one! She told my grandad that there was always something a little creepy about him. His old practice remained empty for years because people thought it was jinxed!
I love when Eleanor says to get a cup of tea if you can’t listen to a subject today, my dad always tells me to make tea when I’m upset or struggling. ❤️
As someone with multiple chronic illnesses I can 100% confirm that getting into a GP centre with a doctor who has a good reputation, particularly one who appears eager to prescribe pain relief, is definitely like winning the lottery if not better because it offers hope.
@@sisi-eo8lg not at all, my gran would tell me about how charming and “normal” he was- he was super popular and well liked both in the town in general and in the workplace and so it was a HUGE shock when everything came out about him. Is there anything in particular you would like to know?
@@lizbetbasurto3879 Completely! I think there was some guilt felt amongst a lot of the people that worked with him too (in the sense that if they had realised sooner they could’ve stopped it)
I'm 30 years old and the thought of losing my mother makes me break down. I don't even want to imagine what that feels like, but it's gonna happen some day. Losing a parent is seriously tough, but using that as an excuse to kill people is a disgrace.
Exactly...i lose my dad this year, i just turned 24 yesterday. Initially i kept on having dreams of him...daily. Smelling his perfumes made me sad, the thing isnt easy to handle but not ONCE i thought of killing others
@@yuki97kira Exactly! Why would you want to inflict the pain you've felt on other people? It just doesn't make sense to me. Also, I'm sorry about your father. I'm sure if he could read your comment he'd be happy and proud. As long as somebody remembers you fondly and with grace, then you're never really dead.
We don’t need to hear your opinion as someone who hasn’t even lost a parent. Just please, have mercy on others and stop sharing your personal experiences if they’re not relevant
Eleanor Neale: my day is always better when I see that you’ve put up another video and I get to watch and listen to your true crime stories. Thank you!
In highschool I had a supply teacher who had worked on the Harold Shipman case, before he retired. He said Harold was weirdly nice and spoke as though he was catching up with an old friend…. apparently his wife was insufferable Lol.
as a health and social care student, we learn about him and his crimes and its sad and outrageous to think someone who is supposed to care can do such things.
I'm glad you covered this case since my uncle ended up getting dying after Dr shipman visited him also local as I'm from pontefract and my grandad ended up working with him at pontefract general infirmary
I work in a pharmacy and he is the reason we have to now have a CD register. We have to log every controlled drug that enters and leaves the pharmacy xx
Harold shipman was my doctor while I was a child. While living in Hyde, Cheshire. It sounds really bad but I’m almost grateful I was a child and didn’t have any money. Rip to all the peoples lives he took 😔
No wayyyy I wanted to recommend this case for you because you mentioned it in a previous video that I was watching yesterday and today here it is Great work Eleanor as always !!! ☺️💕
There is a lot of people with the nickname Doctor Death. Two people I can think off the top of my head are Jack Kevirkian and Christopher Duntsch. Both had very high profile cases in America. As a nursing student, I can not fathom why people would do that to innocent people!! P.S. Great Job Elenor! Love your content!!
Well life is complex. And sometimes (more likely very intelligent?) people can be totally evil and really nice at the same time? Like totally cruel and sadistic and taking great pleasure in causing massive pain to someone else, and shortly afterwards being really sympathetic and caring and comforting to a suffering soul? And neither is more false or true than the other, they are are just different ways of being. People can be very complex and can possibly sometimes in all honesty be both, maybe not at the same time, but in quick succession?
For some reason I assumed you'd have already done this video! I'm really excited to see how this turns out, as I don't know the case too well. Looking forward to part 2!
Idk if there’s something wrong with me but I can’t stop binge watching your videos! 😂 I’d love it if you could pls cover the case of Tomasz Komenda - it’s a different case from your usual ones but it needs to spoken more about. He was recently released from prison after being wrongfully convicted for 25yrs for rape and murder of a girl, when he wasn’t even there when it happened and the murderer walked free for decades until recently. I hope you see this, nobody else on TH-cam I know of, has spoken about this case 🤍
The amount of detail you go into covering the stories you tell is incredible. You manage to turn a 25 minute story into a 1hr 45mins 2 part story it’s literally amazing and definitely helps when I can’t get to Sleep 🤣🙏🏻
Ofcourse he was still going to take these drugs after rehab. Forced drug rehab doesn't work. A person HAS to WANT to get sober. You can't FORCE a person to get sober.
Enjoy your telling of these stories, Eleanor. Thank you for all the work you do to acquire and organize information on these cases. Love your natural look!
It’s been a while since I’ve watched Eleanor and I have to say she looks so much happier and bubbly than when I was here way back. I love seeing that beautiful smile 😭🤍
The "other" Dr. Death was Christopher Duntch. If you haven't heard the podcast based on him I highly recommend you seek it out. The mini series "Dr. Death" with Christian Slater, Alec Baldwin and Joshua Jackson as Dr. Duntch is incredible. His story was so insane and over the top it's hard to believe it really happened. That guy was an absolute monster. 😈
That guy..🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 i cant even!! Makes me so sad too. He could have been such a help to ppl, but instead killed them and maimed them and traumatized them.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE MAKE IT PART 2 IN YHE TITLE! It can be hard for new viewers trying to catch up on old videos when they all have separate names. I've finally gotten better at finding the part 2s and 3s but I see this comment a lot on your stuff. Love what you do and appreciate all the work that you put into it. Thanks!
I agree lol.. when I first started her videos a few months ago, I would always get confused and would watch about 10 minutes of number 2 before realizing it WAS number 2, so I just started listening to the intro better and finally got the hang. And also when going from the bottom of the list (first vids) to the top (latest more current vids) I couldn't put them on auto play because two would always be above one so I had to do some juggling but now I'm all caught up so now I have the hang of it😂😂
Your videos are perfect to listen to while doing daily tasks like cooking, cleaning or relaxing for me I can just lay in bed eyes closed and listen to your voice And the cases you cover are always so interesting!! Love ya Eleanor!
The story of Harold Shipman's childhood reminds me of an episode of the show My Super Sweet Sixteen in which a teenage girl who'd been in foster care for a couple years was adopted by a wealthy couple. In one scene, she was driven through her former, lower-class neighborhood and took that opportunity to trash it. She also shunned and cruelly mocked her former best friend for being too ugly and poor to be part of her "VIP" group. People like that sicken me.
I live about 5 minutes away from this guys house, my parents like to remind me every single time we drive past just incase I somehow forgot since the last time we drove past which was probably the same day
Girl could you do the Robert Pickton case? He's the worst serial killer in Canada's history and it all happened around where I live. We're learning about it in school and It would be super cool to see you cover it! Just an idea :)
Eleanor at the beginning when she made the joke about not seeing the second part, paused and then said "just put the notifications on" 😭 energy, she's so cute guysss
i’ve been watching your videos for years & i’m obsessed. i absolutely love your new intros! i’m so proud of you & how far you’ve come, can’t wait to see the next part🖤
Dr Shipman was my nephew's dad's family doctor, according to them everything was a complete shock and they did not suspect a thing. He apparently came across as a really nice and personable doctor, he'd go out of his way to help them and even did a few housecalls for them when one of the kids contracted the measles. They even picked up a perscription from the GP the morning he was arrested for his crimes.
Where his surgery was is my pharmacy, it gives me chills whenever I go in. I'm a patient at The Brooke and it freaks me out how much has happened 5 minutes from my house. Even my best friends nana had experience with Harold and he took care of a lot of her family members.
Currently stuck in my room with covid and I’ve been waiting for this!! Also sending love to everyone in the comments that has dealt with any repercussions of this mans horrific actions🕊🤍
Hello beautiful girl, I had to take the opportunity to tell you that I absolutely adore you and your content. I love the way you present the stories, your compassion and true empathy for the victims involved is so genuinely felt. You are so beautiful and it’s very obvious your beauty radiates from within, I find you to be such a special young lady. I look forward to everything you present and always end being so moved and affected by your videos, your delivery is perfect every time and your level of knowledge and the effort you provide is wonderful. You truly are a QUEEN of true crime! Love from an Aussie gal. 💜🇦🇺
Hearing how he acted with his mother hit me too hard… my mom just finished treatment and she’s fine now but… the trauma of seeing her like that and caring for her day in and day out is just… god I wouldn’t wish it on anyone
Thank you so very much Eleanor! The way you tell these stories …. You have a gift!! It’s undeniable. It’s very much appreciated that you don’t include sick details, and you always warn us so that we can skip the part. Thank you!
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@@bongwatir same dude
Dr Shipman was my parents GP and would have been mine but he was arrested when my mum was pregnant with me. I love seeing more people talk about this case
That’s a terrifying thought
Omg that’s crazy!
@@leylasaraf4953 they must be like 23 since he was arrested in 1998
Wow
What a claim to fame for attention
You weren't an OAP with Jewelry so sit down
that’s very interesting and cool in a weird morbid way hahaha so wild
I live right near Hyde and sadly this awful man took two of my family members away but rip to all who was killed 🕊🕊
I’m sorry that happened to you. I can’t truly imagine going through anything like this.
I'm so sorry for your loss Freya, sending my love to you and all your family. I can't even begin to imagine what you've all been through. ❤️
I am truly sorry for your loss hope you're family members and the other victims find peace 🕊🕊
Oh my, I'm sorry to hear about it Freya, I can't imagine going through what you had to go through, that Shipman is a wicked individual.
Freya prayers and good vibes to your family and all those affected. What a horrible man…
He was actually my grandmas doctor, she was unharmed by him luckily but she always talked of him as a really kind man which is so freaky to me! 😰
It’s ok some people have the way of putting a spell on others good thing she wasn’t harmed a lot of people were appalled and mad that there was suspicion of his actions
My boyfriend mum and Nan were his patients to and they always say everyone thought he was a really kind man
Maybe your grandma was nice to him…
I haven’t gotten into the video but maybe the people he hurt were ppl that pissed him off that day lol. when I was a waxer I had a few racist clients … I would make their Brazilian wax hurt extra lol
@@weekendnomad5038 that’s not lol, that’s a shitty thing to do.
@@jessicawatson7360 it’s funny? they were racist, they deserve it
The amount of people in the comments sharing stories about this man is terrifying, like he’s everyone’s next door neighbour
he had such a wide reach - everyone i know has some kind of story of shipman, it's like he's a local celebrity. terrifying stuff.
He’s everybody’s doctor clearly
@@ijfisjjf1916 tameside is a big area and GPs aren't super close together, some have thousands of patients! it's not surprising
@@amyisaway7800 not surprising that half of the comments sound like bs anyways
@@ijfisjjf1916 well that's the internet for you! most people watching probably wouldn't even have been alive when he was practicing (myself included) hahaha
I'm blind and I love that you give so much detail verbally and don't rely on showing pictures or reading extracts 😁 love your channel! I don't know whether sight impairment or blindness is in the back of your mind when you make your videos, but even if it's not I appreciate it! Xx
Completely agree, it’s so great that she does this! It makes it so much easier to focus on.
How did you write this comment? Not trolling genuinely curious
@@NoneYaBusiness there is apps available for people who are blind to be able to use technology - I’d assume something like that with voice recognition to type!
@@kelseysimpson7308 that makes sense! Thank you
@@NoneYaBusiness or Braille keyboards
He was even worse than the average serial killer because he was in a position of authority and his patients trusted him and he betrayed that trust in the worst way imaginable.
@@EllaJay yes but he used his position as a doctor to rope them in so they would gain his trust and held himself up as a pillar of society and an all caring doctor when really he was killing his own patients and stealing their inheritance.
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@@EllaJay their family are his victims too, they suffered so much because of him.
@@seandelap6268 agreed I don't know why it's worse when it's a doctor, nurse or police officer. This plus the number of how many people was affected. All for what a drug problem. That's fucked up I can't understand how no one noticed he was that high all the time. There would have been so many mistakes he made also causing death. The fact kids knew he was the man to go to for drugs. I'm blows away
Well to be honest when you see a interview of him he does seem like a very nice guy to be around you wouldn't suspect he was a bad person
Doctors secretly being murderers is one of my biggest fears. I have a genetic incurable disease and always have to go to several doctors every month. Scary.
i wish you nothing but the best tidy 🤬
Same!!! I have 2 auto immune diseases plus other stuff so im at drs allot as well. I was also a medic in the army, so i know how easy it coukd be for dr to do stuff like this! I hope that you get and stay healthy, prayers.
Hey omggg twinssss🤪
I have a genetic uncurible disease too😝😝
Wish u all the best, bestie
wish u the best
Same on the condition, but I never thought of drs being murderers ever!! 😓😱😅
For once, we can honestly say the parent didn't have a hand in why they went nuts. Goes to show sometimes you can try your absolute best as a parent, but people make their own decisions in the end.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS SO TRUE, you put it so well ❤
I wouldn't be so completly sure because to know if there was issues in his upbringing we would've needed to look at if from the inside. So many things seem "normal" from the outside but we don't really know unless we were close to the situation. Most situations of mental illnesses tend to be a mix of "nature" and "nurture" not only just one. It is super extremly rare for someone to be "born 'evil'". In his situation there could have been a lot of red flags that were ignored by the parents or others around him. Maybe the relationship between him and his mother could've been a bit toxic or maybe with his father but since it was in an area were people would see it as normal it could have been overlooked. The fact that they were very religious could also have an effect in his upbringing too since many (not always and depends where and who are in charge) religions and their rules can be so controling and demanding to the point that people would repress themselves and their emotions that can distort their perception of how things are or should be. Yes all these things can also depend on the predisposition of the person but the enviorment also has an effect. Like I said it is not only one or the other, sometimes it is an accumulation of internal and enviormental factors. And there are so many that no one really knows.
Nurture vs. nature. They are starting to say nature is more important than nurture.
@@diaryofarealmom3264 Actually both are very important for human's development. If we were only nature we wouldn't have culture, history, languages, etc. If we were only nurture we wouldn't be individuals with our own predispositions and quirks.
bro my mum tired to make her own decisions to sell a business and her parents nearly put her in a mental hospital 💀
Girl, I just wanted to say thank you for giving a content warning including terminal cancer. I lost my mom to terminal cancer 3 years ago, and if I watched this video any time before 2 years I would have had to click away. Thanks for looking out for those who aren’t normally thought of!
I list my grandad to terminal cancer on New Year’s Eve so I know what you are going through but I’m sure yours is much harder to deal with seeing as it was your mother. I hope you’re doing ok now
Not normally thought of??? Are you serious, cancer is the biggest killer of human beings, everyone has a brush with it be it with you having it or someone close to you having it. Everyone losses people to cancer, nothing should have a "trigger warning" because that's just life... Shit happens and we die... Suck it up buttercup and learn to deal with it.
I’m so sorry for your loss.
Hello Eleanor!! Please do a video on the “xijiang female boss” or “yang hotel case” it’s about a boss who killed 16 of her employees, sold all their body parts and organs on the black market. Apparently there’s a famous photo of all the employees heads in a pile.. I’m just extremely curious about this case but I’m terrible at doing research. I can’t find any true crime youtubers you have done a video on it either. It’s truly horrific but I think you’d make a fantastic video on it.
Hope she does this sounds horrific yet interesting
can confirm i just saw the photo
Definitely would be interested in this one
@@orophaynx it’s fake lolz
Im sure its not a real crime case its fake
My great grandma was killed by him, my family appeared in a documentary about shipman and we were invoked in the inquest which holds information that has not been made to the public, I’d be happy to share what I know about this man in addition to what is known by the public.
Really sorry to hear that. Horrible, horrible man Shipman was. God give you strength 🙏
girl 👀 pls spill
@@ayybibi she's probably talking crap. If she had info she would have said.
@@longlivelinzi you don’t know that. it’s probably really personal and she doesn’t want to share it. but if someone wants to hear it she’ll probably tell them
@@actually.bella_ HI Fellow Stay :)
He was my grandmothers doctor and was in his victim range, my family think the only reason why he never tried to hurt my grandmother was because my grandfather was always with her when he visited their house
That's very scary. Glad your grandma didn't suffer the fate his other patients did. Your grandad was a smart man.
could you do alison botha? she was stabbed and almost decapitated and managed to walk for help whilst holding up her own head and holding intenstines and miraculously survived!!
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Wow that’s amazing so happy that she survived but sad that she had to go through that. Man I pray she is doing well!!!!
Oh yes.. her case is absolutely brutal.. in South Africa right? She wrote about her ordeal.. it’s amazing that she survived her attackers. Strong woman..
this is crazy, i would love to hear more about this as well! what a strong girl
elli u she has a documentary on amazon prime i’m pretty sure! i think the two men who did it are going to be released soon!
My dad is an opioid addict, but he had the bravery and intelligence to at least come clean to the family before we all found out ourselves or got suspicious. we didn’t have to piece everything together and confront him, he just came clean and honestly for that i am grateful. He’s now nearly 6 months sober ❤️
just sharing because of the opioid addiction aspect of this video.
Congratulations to your father on getting sober 💖
@@AlexTheHumann tysm ❤️
I am so happy for you and your family. Addiction can end in very bad ways, my mother recently passed away from opioid addiction. Best of wishes to you and your family! ❤
@@carliehighland8243 I am SO sorry to hear that about your mom! thanks for the comment. We are all still doing well.
@@carliehighland8243 sending you my love ❤️
"he was just a ....dick." killed me. My hubby and I were watching/listening to you while "tea time" is being prepared and he said "I just love her voice"
are u gay
@@viiperbiite no I’m married to a guy for tax break reasons. 🙄
@@Butchcub75 So for unethical reasons 🤔
@@viiperbiite LOL. No! I was joking. Weve been together 15 years and yes Im gay (like it matters). Its a very odd and seemingly rude question to ask esp on Eleanor's channel.
@@viiperbiite what a weird question to ask??
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your content warnings before the video starts! I know some people may think “it’s true crime, of course there’s going to be hard topics talked about, no need for warnings” but there are specific things I can’t really listen to when the rest of the case doesn’t bother me at all. Might not make sense to some people but that’s how it can be at times!
Thank you so much for this lovely comment! I'm so glad the warnings help, I'd hate for a particular topic to trip someone up unexpectedly. Some people just don't realise that certain topics hit deeper for different people.
i appreciate the warnings so much too!!! even if i'm not gonna click off it's so helpful to have those warnings before hand for soemthing that is sensitive for me :) thank u eleanor
I also appreciate the warnings, including any mention of animal abuse. I listened recently to a Real Crimes documentary and this guy blurted something out about animal abuse with no warning and I just had to shut it down. It just impacted me so much. So, thank you, Eleanor.
I totally and completely agree! 💗
Ngl, I didn’t expect to see this many people who feel the same way, this is such a lovely surprise 💙
One of the most notorious serial killers ever. Friday night just got made better. Eleanor thank you for the upload x
Thank you for coming along!! xox
And me living in America has never heard of him 🤦🏻♀️ but here to learn about him
Yesss! Popcorn, ramen and Eleanor are the perfect combo 🤌🏾🔥
@@meagan.868 definitely eating Ramen, good idea on the 🍿. Bout to grab some
@@meagan.868 had the munchies? 🍃
Brando walker, my friend got murderd and there was almost to coverage I just want people to hear his story it would mean a lot for you to cover it,love you lots and everything you do
I’d love to hear his story. you’re clearly a very good friend:)
@@charliebryant4561 thank you so much. I really hope one day his story can be told he was an amazing person.
Another messed up medical "professional" - Beverly Allitt. She was a British nurse who was convicted of murdering four children, attempting to murder three other children, and causing grievous bodily harm to a further six. All between February and April 1991!
Scarily, she's currently being held in a maximum security psychiatric hospital, however her minimum tariff of 30 years is almost up. If she's deemed "fit" she could be transferred to a prison and be given the right to apply for parole! That's a damn scary thought!
I love your videos. They are really well researched and interesting to watch. They really brighten my day x
I would love to see a video about Beverly Allitt, that would be really good. I'm looking forward to watching this one.
And victor Chua in manchester
@@jennieredhead Eleanor has already done a video on Beverley Allitt not long ago. Scroll down and you will see :)
@@ellalees7210 not sure i can find it?
@@jennieredhead I’ve just gone to search for it myself and I can’t find it anywhere either 🤷🏽♀️ maybe it got taken down or maybe I’m mistaken, I’m sure I watched it though
I love how… natural? Comfortable? Eleanor acts in this video. The little comments that didn’t really belong to the case, the giggles… I love her usual videos, but in this one she seemed like she was having a good day. I’m happy for her :)
Right! It feels like I'm having a conversation w a friend
Knew this was Harold Shipman, my husband’s nan had him when he was in Hyde but luckily he was ,i guess, feeling lazy that day and wasn’t helpful, so she saw someone else the next day. Unfortunately she is no longer with us 💔but thankfully, not because of him.
Addicts are in denial themselves and full of shame so being upset that he didn't tell her is completely common. If you think you don't have a problem you aren't going to tell anyone you have a problem
Yeah the deceit in a relationship where someone has an addiction is horrible when you love someone and they meant to love you but they lie and hide things from you because of their addiction it does make you upset.
@@emmaw944 however it does need to be remembered that their brains are so chemically altered that they literally cannot remember and think outside of the drugs they are addicted to- when they dont consume it they have almost no serotonin and thus feel like an intense pain and have to take the drug to ease that. Im not an addict but theres been more research done on the affects of addiction and its not such a choice or sometimes even curable
Thank you for the terminal cancer warning. Many people overlook it or don’t think to warn about it but you’re extremely thorough and respectful and it really means a lot
When Eleanor says “Soh tuhdays’ videoh…” my day is instantly improved. 💗
My boyfriends grandma’s sister was one his victims! I remember him telling me and I just needed to know more
My roommate’s sister’s aunt’s great grandma was also a victim Omg it was crazy
I have the weirdest memory of Eleanor asking in a video if we’d like her to do a video on this killer like years ago? I think - either way excited!
My grandad was in prison with dr. Death. In prison he had to be transferred as he was taking control of the section he was in. He could control the inmates and the guards by confusing, gas lighting and manipulating them all. He was then moved to another prison and had to be by himself at all times. Wierd guy.
Bow that's freaky scary
Wow that is terrifying!
That’s crazy!
Not surprising in the least. The man was a psychopath of the worst form, and far more dangerous than ordinary criminals.
Also I once encountered someone who was a prison officer and had Harold Shipman chained to him to take him to a hospital appointment and he said that he was "a very arrogant little man" and described him as "snidey and evil".
I just wanted to say a warm thank you for that cancer content warning. It's not often that content creators think of this. As a survivor, I get horrible anxiety around the topic and I'm glad I was given the opportunity to click out and simply watch another case. Keep up the wonderful work. Love the channel!
Eleanore : " I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video "
Eleanore 3 mins later : " No one wanted to hang out with him bc he was .... a dick "
he’s a serial killer bruh she means all the disrespect to him specifically he killed so many like
But, he wat
I see no issues with her insulting a serial killer lol, she means the victims and their families..
Well what do you expect? You expect her to speak positively about a serial killer?
Been waiting for this one, my mum went to school with one of his sons and went over to their house multiple times, it’s scary how he was doing all this behind closed doors.
Also we love you Eleanor!! x
omg that's horrifying! thank you for sharing though, i'm so glad your mama is okay! sending love your way girl x
@JJ ОIаtuпji 🅥 shut up
I always drop everything and click the notifs when Eleanor posts and it's ALWAYS WORTH IT
Same 😁♥️👍🏼
Lol same
Same
When your baby finally falls asleep and THE QUEEN UPLOADS ALL AT THE SAME TIME 🥺😩👏🏽
awww me and baby are in sync today lmaooo
He was my nan’s doctor before she moved house and got a new one! She told my grandad that there was always something a little creepy about him. His old practice remained empty for years because people thought it was jinxed!
I love when Eleanor says to get a cup of tea if you can’t listen to a subject today, my dad always tells me to make tea when I’m upset or struggling. ❤️
I love how she got so excited for a case, she's so amazing. Such a beautiful human being.
As someone with multiple chronic illnesses I can 100% confirm that getting into a GP centre with a doctor who has a good reputation, particularly one who appears eager to prescribe pain relief, is definitely like winning the lottery if not better because it offers hope.
My grandma worked as a nurse with him at todmorden practice, she has ALOT of stories about his time there
Would u mind telling us
@@sisi-eo8lg not at all, my gran would tell me about how charming and “normal” he was- he was super popular and well liked both in the town in general and in the workplace and so it was a HUGE shock when everything came out about him. Is there anything in particular you would like to know?
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Whoa...I bet the shock it was to know a coworker turned out to be a monster...
@@lizbetbasurto3879 Completely! I think there was some guilt felt amongst a lot of the people that worked with him too (in the sense that if they had realised sooner they could’ve stopped it)
I literally love how she tells these stories and you can just tell she one of them people who is so nice to everyone xx
I'm 30 years old and the thought of losing my mother makes me break down. I don't even want to imagine what that feels like, but it's gonna happen some day. Losing a parent is seriously tough, but using that as an excuse to kill people is a disgrace.
Exactly...i lose my dad this year, i just turned 24 yesterday. Initially i kept on having dreams of him...daily. Smelling his perfumes made me sad, the thing isnt easy to handle but not ONCE i thought of killing others
@@yuki97kira Exactly! Why would you want to inflict the pain you've felt on other people? It just doesn't make sense to me. Also, I'm sorry about your father. I'm sure if he could read your comment he'd be happy and proud. As long as somebody remembers you fondly and with grace, then you're never really dead.
We don’t need to hear your opinion as someone who hasn’t even lost a parent. Just please, have mercy on others and stop sharing your personal experiences if they’re not relevant
Eleanor Neale: my day is always better when I see that you’ve put up another video and I get to watch and listen to your true crime stories. Thank you!
and then you hear it's part one...
@@ninnaahk 😂
Yes but then we know we’ll see her soon for part two. Eleanor you’re great!
Love this story idk why when I’m depressed and anxious true crime bloggers always soothe me I know it’s ironic but it’s true lol Thx Eleanor!!!!
Same!
Here she is with her perfect timing againnn😍
Right! Was just about to walk passed laundry I need to fold for the 13 time today but now I’m actually folding it lol
Eleanor, since you hit the 2M mark you should celebrate by doing another themed week like you used to do!!! Please need it
Love you, congrats xoxo
its cool seeing eleanor slowly grow the quality of her content and show more personal clips like her dropping her phone
In highschool I had a supply teacher who had worked on the Harold Shipman case, before he retired. He said Harold was weirdly nice and spoke as though he was catching up with an old friend…. apparently his wife was insufferable Lol.
@nochuu Just very chatty, she always seemed nice to me whenever I met her though.
@@annathirlaway1242 lol
@Kim-Seraphina It was probably just an easy change to make some money in the end of his career. You can't be a detective when you're super old
as a health and social care student, we learn about him and his crimes and its sad and outrageous to think someone who is supposed to care can do such things.
I'm glad you covered this case since my uncle ended up getting dying after Dr shipman visited him also local as I'm from pontefract and my grandad ended up working with him at pontefract general infirmary
Same with my great granma she died when Harold shipman was caring for her
Omg i’m so sorry
@@im_salty4901 sorry for you loss mate
@@syubiased6854 nah its alright
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I’m studying criminology and this guy was mentioned, glad you’re talking about this case 💃🏼
The way you tell stories is amazing. It's like you're telling it like you were there, and your emotions are so genuine. Keep up the good work ✨
Thank you so much for the warning about cancer. Knowing the topic would be talked about prepared me enough to not get triggered :] ♡
Can't wait to hear part 2, but also caseify looks so cool and all bur wish they had more of an android selection
Yes!!!
Love when Elanor’s personality come out like when she was telling us to turn the notifications on 😂❤️
That made me lol too 😂
I work in a pharmacy and he is the reason we have to now have a CD register. We have to log every controlled drug that enters and leaves the pharmacy xx
Harold shipman was my doctor while I was a child. While living in Hyde, Cheshire. It sounds really bad but I’m almost grateful I was a child and didn’t have any money. Rip to all the peoples lives he took 😔
No wayyyy
I wanted to recommend this case for you because you mentioned it in a previous video that I was watching yesterday and today here it is
Great work Eleanor as always !!! ☺️💕
I’ve just started watching Eleanor for about two weeks but omg I am addicted to the way she tells true crime!
There is a lot of people with the nickname Doctor Death. Two people I can think off the top of my head are Jack Kevirkian and Christopher Duntsch. Both had very high profile cases in America. As a nursing student, I can not fathom why people would do that to innocent people!!
P.S. Great Job Elenor! Love your content!!
Harold was my dad, uncle and grandads doctor. All we hear from him is ‘he was such a nice guy tho!’ Can’t have been THAT nice dad he killed people
Well life is complex. And sometimes (more likely very intelligent?) people can be totally evil and really nice at the same time? Like totally cruel and sadistic and taking great pleasure in causing massive pain to someone else, and shortly afterwards being really sympathetic and caring and comforting to a suffering soul? And neither is more false or true than the other, they are are just different ways of being. People can be very complex and can possibly sometimes in all honesty be both, maybe not at the same time, but in quick succession?
Thank you for putting a warning for cancer, it’s my biggest phobia and I’ve never heard anyone put warnings for it
Girl you are thriving! You look great and seem so happy, I'm so glad to see it.
For some reason I assumed you'd have already done this video! I'm really excited to see how this turns out, as I don't know the case too well. Looking forward to part 2!
Idk if there’s something wrong with me but I can’t stop binge watching your videos! 😂
I’d love it if you could pls cover the case of Tomasz Komenda - it’s a different case from your usual ones but it needs to spoken more about. He was recently released from prison after being wrongfully convicted for 25yrs for rape and murder of a girl, when he wasn’t even there when it happened and the murderer walked free for decades until recently. I hope you see this, nobody else on TH-cam I know of, has spoken about this case 🤍
"Here in Hyde, it's not as easy to ..... you know...."
Me " HIDE"
"Fly under the radar"
Yeah she missed an opportunity with that one 😆
The amount of detail you go into covering the stories you tell is incredible. You manage to turn a 25 minute story into a 1hr 45mins 2 part story it’s literally amazing and definitely helps when I can’t get to Sleep 🤣🙏🏻
Ofcourse he was still going to take these drugs after rehab. Forced drug rehab doesn't work. A person HAS to WANT to get sober. You can't FORCE a person to get sober.
You’re amazing, keep up the good work. Hope all is well with you x
Enjoy your telling of these stories, Eleanor. Thank you for all the work you do to acquire and organize information on these cases. Love your natural look!
It’s been a while since I’ve watched Eleanor and I have to say she looks so much happier and bubbly than when I was here way back. I love seeing that beautiful smile 😭🤍
My next-door neighbour used to be a Nurse. Today I found out that her doctor was Dr Shipman. Scary world out there.
You explain these cases so well and you have such love for the victims. You’re such a kind, loving soul Eleanor Neale. Love ya girl! Xo
The "other" Dr. Death was Christopher Duntch. If you haven't heard the podcast based on him I highly recommend you seek it out. The mini series "Dr. Death" with Christian Slater, Alec Baldwin and Joshua Jackson as Dr. Duntch is incredible. His story was so insane and over the top it's hard to believe it really happened. That guy was an absolute monster. 😈
That guy..🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 i cant even!! Makes me so sad too. He could have been such a help to ppl, but instead killed them and maimed them and traumatized them.
I was freaked out by the similarities in the two cases! Both men are absolutely terrible 😠 I can't believe how long Shipman got away with this
Such an interesting case, I'm so glad you covered it! Looking forward to listening 😊
i love how respectful she is, the warnings, disclaimers. keep it up we love you!
I've heard about Harold Shipman before and I'm just speechless about what had happened.
can we just take a moment to appreciate Eleanors glow up??? You are looking so happy and you are GLOWING girl x
Watching Eleanor is the only thing that's keeping my sanity from completely fading away these days tbh
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE MAKE IT PART 2 IN YHE TITLE! It can be hard for new viewers trying to catch up on old videos when they all have separate names. I've finally gotten better at finding the part 2s and 3s but I see this comment a lot on your stuff. Love what you do and appreciate all the work that you put into it. Thanks!
I agree lol.. when I first started her videos a few months ago, I would always get confused and would watch about 10 minutes of number 2 before realizing it WAS number 2, so I just started listening to the intro better and finally got the hang. And also when going from the bottom of the list (first vids) to the top (latest more current vids) I couldn't put them on auto play because two would always be above one so I had to do some juggling but now I'm all caught up so now I have the hang of it😂😂
Been longer than a week I was worried!! Doing a 2 parter has made me feel better x love you Eleanor x
nice job telling the story, Eleanor. I know what happens but I feel like I am learning more about this case.
Your videos are perfect to listen to while doing daily tasks like cooking, cleaning or relaxing for me
I can just lay in bed eyes closed and listen to your voice
And the cases you cover are always so interesting!!
Love ya Eleanor!
Yes!! I always clean while listening to her !
I swear time moves differently where favorite creators are involved. I can’t believe the last video was only 9 days ago!
The story of Harold Shipman's childhood reminds me of an episode of the show My Super Sweet Sixteen in which a teenage girl who'd been in foster care for a couple years was adopted by a wealthy couple. In one scene, she was driven through her former, lower-class neighborhood and took that opportunity to trash it. She also shunned and cruelly mocked her former best friend for being too ugly and poor to be part of her "VIP" group.
People like that sicken me.
do you know what episode?
@@Zoe-tg4dl Jazmin, Season 2 ep. 5
I live about 5 minutes away from this guys house, my parents like to remind me every single time we drive past just incase I somehow forgot since the last time we drove past which was probably the same day
i love watching your videos so much, you’re so positive and respectful!
These are my favourite videos on TH-cam, I literally keep going though phases where I only watch your videos 😭
I’ve been wanting Eleanor to cover this one for so long !!!
Girl could you do the Robert Pickton case? He's the worst serial killer in Canada's history and it all happened around where I live. We're learning about it in school and It would be super cool to see you cover it! Just an idea :)
bella fiori has a video on that case too if you wanted to have a watch :))
Eleanor at the beginning when she made the joke about not seeing the second part, paused and then said "just put the notifications on" 😭 energy, she's so cute guysss
I love how your showing more of your personality in your cases recently I’ve noticed you beam and glow it’s so amazing love you girl
i’ve been watching your videos for years & i’m obsessed. i absolutely love your new intros! i’m so proud of you & how far you’ve come, can’t wait to see the next part🖤
Dr Shipman was my nephew's dad's family doctor, according to them everything was a complete shock and they did not suspect a thing. He apparently came across as a really nice and personable doctor, he'd go out of his way to help them and even did a few housecalls for them when one of the kids contracted the measles. They even picked up a perscription from the GP the morning he was arrested for his crimes.
Where his surgery was is my pharmacy, it gives me chills whenever I go in. I'm a patient at The Brooke and it freaks me out how much has happened 5 minutes from my house. Even my best friends nana had experience with Harold and he took care of a lot of her family members.
Currently stuck in my room with covid and I’ve been waiting for this!!
Also sending love to everyone in the comments that has dealt with any repercussions of this mans horrific actions🕊🤍
Hello beautiful girl, I had to take the opportunity to tell you that I absolutely adore you and your content. I love the way you present the stories, your compassion and true empathy for the victims involved is so genuinely felt. You are so beautiful and it’s very obvious your beauty radiates from within, I find you to be such a special young lady. I look forward to everything you present and always end being so moved and affected by your videos, your delivery is perfect every time and your level of knowledge and the effort you provide is wonderful. You truly are a QUEEN of true crime! Love from an Aussie gal. 💜🇦🇺
Thanks for putting my my thoughts into words ❤️
What a nice message you took the time out of your day to write. Have a good week :)
@@miaxx937 Thanks lovely, never hurts to tell people what you feel no matter who it is. She deserves every compliment given. ☺️🦋
you must be a delight to be around, you seem so sweet~
I remember this shocking case like it was yesterday!! Great research as always Eleanor!
Hearing how he acted with his mother hit me too hard… my mom just finished treatment and she’s fine now but… the trauma of seeing her like that and caring for her day in and day out is just… god I wouldn’t wish it on anyone
Thank you so very much Eleanor! The way you tell these stories …. You have a gift!! It’s undeniable.
It’s very much appreciated that you don’t include sick details, and you always warn us so that we can skip the part. Thank you!
Very well done, Eleanor ! Can't wait for Part 2 !