he did not want to kill him in the first place and get a charge of murdering a scum bag like him he just wanted to let him know that he isn't shit @@thatgalrebecca
i wish there was a way to put convicted murderers and rapists through what they put their victims through. they put a human through that, they should pay the price in full
@@lapinx2607 i have seen an episode in black mirror where they did just that and it was pretty disturbing .. you see what those animals deserve is to die !! and god will take care of the rest .. if we were to be put in the situation of a judge or a torturer that might cause even more disturbance and some of us might very well "like" that and turn into shitty serial killers just like him..
No no no it's fine.......Jesus is chill with it. He came down from the heavens and want "chill, bro. Hey Peter, keep living ya best life" while sipping a pina colada and wearing sunglasses. Its fine
Saint Elmo - but Jesus died for his sins, so he can do whatever sick shit he wants and still be bound for heaven, right? 🙄 I hear Christianity is very popular on Death Row... ugh
The teenage boys playing with the disembodied head of the dead puppy is another example of why teenagers scare the living shit out of me. (I had to make a reference to lift up my spirits, I'm sad.)
"It 's left him with a huge, disfiguring scar." Good. "Sources say he's become a nervous wreck since the attack." Good. "He's very frail and in very bad health." Good. "and actually recently had a stroke." GOOD. (Yes, the guy that did the attack was a rapist himself, but wow, this "man" really got on my nerves just from this video alone. Hearing that he suffers fills me with glee.) :T
Can we just appreciate the small comeuppance of him actually ending up with a stroke after faking so many heart attacks? Usually, I'd never wish such a thing on someone but this man is the exception.
i feel the same way, one of my mums best friends was a victim, she was only 16. it’s so scary being from such a small place thinking nothing will ever happen to you but it can.
And this is why I've changed from pro death sentence to pro whole life sentences. Because death would be a mercy to these monsters. They deserve to live in fear for a very long time. Plus in my country, we have a bad history of executing innocent ppl, so to give those wrongfully convicted a chance, best to just switch to full life sentences, no parole.
Sorry, did I mishear? Or did I actually hear that, after being sexual assaulted and nearly killed by Peter, his girlfriend was released BACK INTO HIS CARE?! What. the. actual...
@@shunsloman9313 uhm that's most definitely not true. People can be easily manipulated into staying with someone abusive. It sucks but it happens. Please delete your comment.
Why would the hospital discharge Margaret into the care of Peter Tobin when it was pretty obvious that he was the one who caused her injury? I just don't get it. I can understand why Margaret wouldn't tell anyone but why wouldn't the hospital have put the pieces together? I don't think the two killers are the same, they seem to target slightly different victims and use different methods of killing. At the same time though, Peter couldve dyed his hair when the police sketch came out. I know that doesn't explain the height issue but still.
Madison More if you watched the Bible John video. Not saying you didn’t. But I remember her saying that some of the staff and other witnesses said that he was shorted than six foot.
I feel like peter dyed his hair red and was wearing taller shoes at the time of those murders. It's probably just me but I feel like it matches up too well.
You should look into Francis Tumbelty. He was a “herb doctor” and was frequently in trouble with the law. He even made people believe that he was a general in the union army during the american civil war. Later in life he moved to London where he was eventually a high suspect for Jack the Ripper. He’s really interesting and it’s a crazy story
He actually lived and buried these people in his garden which backed into my grandads garden.. my grandad moved 2 weeks before it all came out. My grandad said he was always worried and cautious of him
swear to god you always post as I'm in relaxation mode, yesterday i was getting in the bath, today I've just applied a facemask... timing on point u big virgin xo
Alice Whitehouse yeah exactly and honestly I would trust the bouncers more they’re very attentive to who is in and out of their bars and are sober.... which most of the people who interacted with Bible John were not sober. Definitely could give a ROUGH description of a guy I hung out with at a bar if asked but if you were to show me a photo and say “this is them” I’m sure it would look slightly different than my description. Like the hair color, height, eye color (all the things that are different between Tobin and John)
yk i gotta theory what if . peter and john were the two guys the sisters were with that night but only john killed that night maybe bc if both sisters die it's too supish yk just a theory
Isn't it weird how the serial killer who WANTED police to find the body's was never "found" (as in found out) but someone who tried to hide everything got 2x life sentences + 30 years in prison. Mind blowing.
Killers who gets away probably know how to evade the ones looking for them... he might have been one of the cops or an investor or someone that could fellow the case and hide evidence to taunt his colleagues.
because they tried to hide it, it’s been proven that if you admit to everything you get a lesser sentence (depending on the crime) he actively hid everything from police
Here's my theory about the Bible John/Peter Tobin connection. I do think they are the same person and here is my explanation. It is very unlikely that Peter Tobin only committed the crimes that he has been charged with throughout his life when we consider his age. At the same time, there is something very peculiar about Bible John's criminal history as well; all of his victims were on their periods. I find it unlikely that he knew this about his victims when he approached them. It is also statistically very questionable that all the women he targeted just happened to be on their periods. Two explanations come to mind: 1. he would regularly pick up random women from the bar for sexual encounters and seeing three of these women on their periods infuriated him (sounds much like Peter Tobin I say) so he snapped and killed only them and did nothing to the other women or 2. these three women were only a fraction of his other murders but the style of murder was completely different BECAUSE they were on their periods - like he wanted the police to find them and to know why he committed these murders (hence making the towels very visible) as he made no attempt to cut up/hide/preserve the bodies, because to him these women were probably not worth the effort. I personally think the second theory is true - that the reason why we believe the two to be completely different people is because the psychology behind these two sets of murders is completely different - one set was committed by a Peter Tobin who wanted to see blood and the other set was by a Peter Tobin who was disgusted by the sight of blood. Two completely different motives, two completely different personalities and therefore two completely different styles of murder.
makes sense, especially because he wanted to be in control. seeing women on their period, instead of him inflicting the bleeding, was probably infuriating. he loved blood but wanted to be the one to make them bleed. maybe?
Honestly when I heard Eleanor say “and she said where is Bute?” My heart literally dropped. Dropped right down. The things people can do, I don’t even know what to think, this is so shocking.
Lilly Evans Aaaah yesss because hearing that he’s killed people and abused people viciously is no big deal but gosh! How could he hurt the dog!! It’s such a shock
the dog was mentioned before a lot of what he had done. The guy was a terrible person, but dogs are still living beings. Thats messed up. It doesnt equate to what he did to hos victims, but i dont blame people for getting upset over that.
@@dZRize it’s not just about the dogs death... it’s about what that man put her through... he gave her one thing that made her happy and then disposed of it inhumanely because it caused him inconvenience
I gotta say, I appreciate all the work she puts into these. From the research, filming, editing, DAILY UPLOADS!! Great content from a great person. Much appreciated Eleanor
This one hits home - for two days a week I used to stay at my granny's house, when I was younger, which was just metres away from a hideout he allegedly had, which was also about 500 metres away from two primary schools, one of which I went to. I consider myself lucky that I wasn't that outgoing at the age in which he was in Paisley.
Why? He specifically targeted teenage girls and women, he didnt go for primary aged children, boys or men. Infact, if anything, he had a genuine affection for boys as shown with how he treated his own little boy. You wouldnt have been a victim here regardless of how 'outgoing' or not you were.
but then who murdered the victims since it was so different ? it seems unlikey that peter murdered them since it was so different and why would bible john want to lure them to peter ?
I feel like he is Bible John. 4 inches isn't THAT big of a height difference. Plus the bouncers at the Barrowland Ballroom all said he had brownish hair, in contradiction to Genie's description. Making him match the description almost perfectly, down to the second tooth. Also, even though those murders don't necessarily match the way he killed later on in life, those 3 would've been some of the first murders. That means he may not have known the most satisfying way for him. Also, and ik this is gross, but wouldn't the fact that Bible John only killed women on their period also point to a fascination with blood? I'm just saying it's too many coincidences for me... Also, that poor puppy 🙁
Liz braley I think this is the most likely explanation, to be honest. When citing all the differences between Peter and Bible John, the differences aren’t as grand and impossible when you weigh them against the similarities. And then taking into account the fact that he would’ve been in his twenties, it’s likely that those were his first few killings and he was still figuring out what he did and didn’t like. It lines up perfectly to me. But maybe we’ll just never know for sure. Either way, it’s all very interesting.
exactly. There have only ever been 34 serial killers in the UK (that the police know off) so what are the chances of two of them hanging around the Barrowland ballroom at the same time?
caramel cow now its 45 :) I can imagine that being at the gym listening to this is really good! Her voice is really nice to listen to! Loud and clear without sounding forced!
Idk what’s up with that first person that commented, jeeeeez, people like to talk crap for literally no reason. I too listen to her cases at the gym lol
I was one of the security guards standing behind Tobin while he was on trail in Dundee for the killing of Vicky Hamilton. Her dad broke my heart seeing the pain he was going through, her mum died not knowing what happened to her.
Yes and no, we wouldn't want him to die early now, would we? He can't endure the constant fear of looking over his shoulder like the women he terrorized if he dies now.
Rachel W The comment was referencing the picture she put up as she said “he never laid a finger on his son” (figuratively) and the picture is him literally putting a single finger on his son.
You would know its a puppy's head and not a football. Wonder how those children ended up? What was done to that puppy was so horrible. Who plays football with a puppy's head or a animals head honestly, what is wrong with them.
This Vicki Hamilton is one of my distant relatives on my dads side and I watched this video several times and thought omg Hamilton was the last name of my grandma I should ask but thought it was just a coincidence and I got into the conversation with dad about true crime and then an advert for spit dna kits came up on the tv and I started talking about how I want to try it and my dad went into family history and told me about her and I recognised the case mainly from this video I’d previously watched several times
Hannah Collings lmao I hate people like you. Like if you don’t believe it then go on with your day . 🤷🏽♀️ Don’t have to be sarcastic it just makes you look rude.
Mia Jones Damn, just seen your comment after I had made the same comment, There were 8 siblings (3 older brothers I think?) and they had all had a rough start in life with violent parents so seems like a logical connection to make
@@leahlarsen7019 They had the semen left on the third victim if that semen was in some way related to Peter Tobin there would have been a partial match in the database and then police would have searched for his male relatives.
The fact that not one but at least TWO serial killers frequented that ballroom place is so unsettling 😵 Also love you sm Eleanor you’re such a champ for uploading so many long videos consecutively!! 💖
@@sophiejameson4064 nah. Those who are convicted today are cases where the evidence was undoubtable- that wouldnt change simply because its a life sentence. Most cases dont lead to convictions because of “lack of evidence”- that too will likely unchange with the amount of old conservative males leading the nations justice system..
Hey girl! I've been subscribed for over a year, but for some reason I have never seen a notification or even see you in my subscription feed :/ I've always really enjoyed your videos, and so when I saw you comment I figured I accidentally subscribed but I was still subscribed. Anywho, just thought I should let you know about this in case other people are experiencing it. Love you xxxx
Yes! Her videos are great to snack to! Except for when she talks about flesh and dismantling and stuff but I get over it eventually and continue eating.
It tracks. My ex has a sordid history of domestic violence, stalking, harassment, etc...now has primary custody after suing me back to back for a decade. They really don't care about the kids.
He is so similar to bible John but he just doesn’t look like him. Even the eye colour is different. But maybe they were friends/siblings or whatever doing this on purpose to confuse everyone
Could be that people just remember the eye color/hair color etc wrong, they might have been drinking a bit too much and maybe lights made it look a bit different than what it actually was or maybe even hair dye or something. In the other video(about Bible John) the staff said he had brown hair(and eyes I believe) and was shorter than 6ft and they should have been sober and maybe had seen the person before in there
"how many people do you know that have an overlapping tooth in the upper right corner of thier mouth?" Me, who has an overlapping tooth in the upper right corner of my mouth: none
I don’t think he is bible John, because if there was so many witnesses saying that he was around 6ft and red head then it can’t be because Peter didn’t look like that but then you never know.. 🤔
Thank you so much for doing this case :) I was gonna suggest it as I'm a forensic science student and one of my lecturers was involved in the investigation and told us to check out this case
Hi! I'm interested in study forensic science so, I would like to ask you how's the career, what subjects are the strongest in the field, is difficult to study this career? If you respond I would be so grateful!
my hair is naturally the same color as tobin's but can look bright red in the sun or direct light (like the same color as eleanor's if not brighter). the lights in the car could have changed the color of tobin's hair. also, how tall were helen and jeannie? because as someone who's a bit over 5 feet, 5'6 could look like roughly 6 feet to me, especially if i wasn't paying attention to his height bc he's not my date.
It’s very likely. They said they were both quite petit. I’m 5’3 and when I see a guy a lot taller than me I’m just like “idk he’s probably about 6 foot” he also was dressed very nicely and a lot of men’s dress shoes add a boost. It could make up to a few inches difference. So if he was around 5’7-5’8 and was wearing a dress shoes with a little lift he could’ve looked around 6’0
Agreed. My natural color is a light brown that looks really red in sunlight. I'm 5'2" ND anyone over like 5'8" could be 6 foot if I'm not paying attention/dark in a room.
God. I can't imagine how messed up Margaret was after everything that happened to her. And I'm willing to bet that the teen's who where kicking the dog's head around were violent adults.
It's absolutely amazing how they were able to piece together everything. Forensics has came so far! Also, this guy's probably the most textbook Psychopath I've ever heard of.
Literally I’ve been binge watching your videos for like a week now - I was watching them constantly at college after watching one of your solved cases last Monday and I’m honestly in awe of you like you’re the loveliest person ever and your content!? I’m shook😩
Elizabeth Marco so why aren’t the rest of the kids serial killers? I think psychopaths are born that way but the way they are raised can escalate their personalities.
I said have the potential- I think becoming a psychopath is the extreme and across that spectrum one would more generally see alcohol and drug abuse, promiscuity, low self esteem, violence, ect..The surrounding environment growing up really dictates ones later life, I mean it is scientifically proven. That is why in areas of poverty where a two parent household isn’t as stable, drug and alcohol abuse is much higher than in an area of stability. Now that being said, of course, there will always be exceptions.
Jess M I also think you have a point, in scientific communities it is a hotly debated issue of weather behavioral problems are inherited or if they are a product of abusive circumstances imprinted on a child. While I personally believe environment plays a larger role than genetics when it comes to behavior, I also know of people who were brought up very healthy, emotionally and physically, yet were troubled from the get go. No one size fits all.
You dont become a physcopath. Physcopathic people have a chemical inbalance in their brains and do not feel remorse or empathy. A socioptah is created but a physcopath is born.
I was sexualy abused by my biological father. I have had ptsd since age 5. I never hurt anyone. I find it an excuse about shitty childhoods. Yes, it can raise you chances. But, the Minority of people do not turn into rapists and murders.
this one really hits close to home because my mum's best friend, her little sister was vicky hamilton one of peter tobin's victims. absolutely heartbreaking
ever since i learned ur my age im mind blown. i wouldnt be able to include every detail like you do, you think everything through so deeply for these videos. i love it thank u for teaching us sm
SO STOKED about a video from Eleanor that’s over an hour long- the long, LONG ones are my all time FAVORITES! Love your context & all your hard work! You’ve always been my favorite & always will be!
The escalation from choking to more savagely beating his victims would make sense, especially given his fascination with blood. Maybe the first murders were more "instinctive" murders from his side but as his experiences grew he escalated it to more brutal modes of killing? And maybe the sketches got too close and he felt scared, which is why he started to hide the bodies instead of leaving them out ..
I admire your work ethic so much! Getting this many daily videos out that have so much work put into them is amazing. Thank you for putting so much effort into your videos, they’re great!
This dude lived down the Road from me when I was in school. I remember my best friends house had been evacuated. They dug up the garden as apparently he lived there previously. They found several bodies
It never ceases to amaze me just how much effort you put in to your videos. You do such a brilliant job and i love the way you weave the story together. Keep up the great work. :)
the coincidences between peter & bible john are SO frustrating, i can't imagine what it'd be like to be working on the case, thinking they're getting close to solving it & then it all comes to nothing. but anyway this video was excellent, as they always are - the research, filming & editing work must be brutal rn so thank you so so so much for your videos, i look forward to them so much 💜
Hi, I know you've got lots of requests all the time, but I have one :) in my area, Devon, there was a case called the Beehive Murder some time ago. The murderer had an affair with victim, and killed himself on the opposite side of the world. There are no true crime videos on it, and I don't know what information you'd be able to find online, but I can give you information if needed. It'd be good for a short video between long ones or something :) Thanks for the consistently brilliant content love x
I was all "I'll watch this and then go to bed" and noticed it's OVER AN HOUR LONG. IT'S NOT LIKE I CAN STOP NOW IM ALREADY 15 MINUTES IN. Update: Y'all know I watched it to the end and went to bed at 3am
Holly Jo No animals deserve to suffer and die unnecessarily, that’s why I’m vegan. There’s no difference between the dogs we love and the animals exploited and killed for food. Just something to think about. It’s easy to live vegan and if you want to learn more you can visit www.HowDoIGoVegan.com and you can also order a free vegan starter kit from www.InternationalVegan.org 😊 P.S. I had to skip the part about the puppy too 😭
Holly Jo I don’t know if you’re aware, but vegetarianism still causes animals to be exploited and slaughtered. All dairy cows and egg laying hens are sent to the slaughterhouse when their production declines. Also, male chicks of the egg industry are considered “waste” because they don’t lay eggs so they are ground up alive at a day old, and male calves are slaughtered at 6 month’s old and labeled “veal”. There’s no moral difference between meat and other animal products. I was a vegetarian for years and I was so devastated when I learned that I was still causing animals to be slaughtered x
Jane Doe7x sorry but no one really cares what you are. Not everyone shares the same beliefs as you. If the person above you is a vegetarian then they are. Not everyone is interested in being vegan hun x
I just love your channel, I've been binge watching since I found it a few days ago. You are an awesome presenter, and you always look so flawless! I love your eye makeup, I wish I could make my eyes look like that! Keep up the great work, thank you for all the videos!!
Yeah I agree. I don't think that he would exhibit all those specific behaviours such as quoting the bible texts that gave him the moniker in just those 3 murders and then not in the next murders
What I don’t get is that there would be DNA in the jewellery that they found at his home. Like skin particles or hair caught in the chains of necklaces etc
I'm 37 year old, I wouldn't have wrote that I was first if there had been other comments there.. That would be silly! I only wrote that because I was suprised there weren't any other comments and I didnt know what else to write. I was just shocked I was so early. I'm not going to argue about it lol, I don't care if I'm 1st or 101st. I'm just here for Eleanor 🤷♀️
Ugh I feel a bit guilty to say it but he has such severe anxiety after being victim to a prison attack yet he brought so much terror to so many women. That feels more like justice to me than even being in prison, maybe a bit of a dose of his own medicine so to speak.
When he was attacked by that other inmate, he only experienced a dust of what his victims went through. The sick bastard.
I agree. Too bad that guy didn't succeed.
When I heard that that rapist attacked him I honestly felt glad because he’s a fucking vile excuse for a human
he did not want to kill him in the first place and get a charge of murdering a scum bag like him he just wanted to let him know that he isn't shit @@thatgalrebecca
i wish there was a way to put convicted murderers and rapists through what they put their victims through. they put a human through that, they should pay the price in full
@@lapinx2607 i have seen an episode in black mirror where they did just that and it was pretty disturbing .. you see what those animals deserve is to die !! and god will take care of the rest .. if we were to be put in the situation of a judge or a torturer that might cause even more disturbance and some of us might very well "like" that and turn into shitty serial killers just like him..
"The attack has left him a nervous wreck and he hasn't been the same" *good*
I like ur profile pic
@@sarahcalliguri8459 so off topic xD
Its what he deserves
lol 666 likes. I want to like but itll mess it up
just made it 1,000 likes thank me later
*"...he still maintained his christianity even all throughout his life"*
Did he tho...
No no no it's fine.......Jesus is chill with it. He came down from the heavens and want "chill, bro. Hey Peter, keep living ya best life" while sipping a pina colada and wearing sunglasses. Its fine
Given the number of people that have been slaughtered in the name of christ I'd guess he's cool with it.
@@billythepigeon7345 killing in the name of christ is the equivalent of saying "No homo" before kissing some dudes
He wasn't Christian, he was Catholic... pagan satanists in my humble opinion
Saint Elmo - but Jesus died for his sins, so he can do whatever sick shit he wants and still be bound for heaven, right? 🙄 I hear Christianity is very popular on Death Row... ugh
The teenage boys playing with the disembodied head of the dead puppy is another example of why teenagers scare the living shit out of me.
(I had to make a reference to lift up my spirits, I'm sad.)
they could care less as long as someone, in this case a puppy, will bleed!
@@preng438 i speak for all teenagers right now, no
@@Mezzioli right Like wtf? Definitely not ALL teenagers
So darken your clothes, or strike a violent pose
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"It 's left him with a huge, disfiguring scar."
Good.
"Sources say he's become a nervous wreck since the attack."
Good.
"He's very frail and in very bad health."
Good.
"and actually recently had a stroke."
GOOD.
(Yes, the guy that did the attack was a rapist himself, but wow, this "man" really got on my nerves just from this video alone. Hearing that he suffers fills me with glee.) :T
yup. they should have treated his injuries with fire.
Can we just appreciate the small comeuppance of him actually ending up with a stroke after faking so many heart attacks? Usually, I'd never wish such a thing on someone but this man is the exception.
It doesnt deserve pity, I'm glad this happened to him.
i feel the same way, one of my mums best friends was a victim, she was only 16. it’s so scary being from such a small place thinking nothing will ever happen to you but it can.
And this is why I've changed from pro death sentence to pro whole life sentences. Because death would be a mercy to these monsters. They deserve to live in fear for a very long time. Plus in my country, we have a bad history of executing innocent ppl, so to give those wrongfully convicted a chance, best to just switch to full life sentences, no parole.
Sorry, did I mishear? Or did I actually hear that, after being sexual assaulted and nearly killed by Peter, his girlfriend was released BACK INTO HIS CARE?!
What. the. actual...
well unfortunately she didn't say anything but I would have thought doctors and police would piece together what may have happened...
Thats exactly what i thought dude like..A, was there no questions?? B. did she go back to him! Why didnt her parents take her...im so confused.
@@shunsloman9313 you need to remove ur comment that is disgusting and unnecessary.
@@shunsloman9313 uhm that's most definitely not true. People can be easily manipulated into staying with someone abusive. It sucks but it happens. Please delete your comment.
@@a_2502 we need one of her higher fans to see this so she can be shown so Eleanor can remove it.
Eleanor: clearly says “Peter Tobin”
auto captions: PIZZA TURBAN
blatantly auto captions taking the piss out of the Yorkshire accent
Sylvia Tree LMAOOO
auto caption discriminating against fine british accents xD
Decided after seeing this to watch it with subtitles 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@cazzey8569 And? Are you now hungry for Pizza?
Me: *watches hours of stories about human deaths*
Also me: *cries hearing about dog abuse*
Katryna Cary literally, I cant get over the dog part 😭
Me too 😭😭
Katryna Cary i'm not even there but i'm feeling anxious
Same ☹️😢
Meeee😭😭😭😭😂😂
me: hears something about a dog in a serial killer/murder video
**skips ahead 30 seconds**
I did the same
LITERALLY
You made the right decision. You really do not want to know. Poor Beaut.
I always have to skip ahead when animals are involved!
Yeah... I watched it and it’s AWFUL. Just imagining that happening to my dog-
Why would the hospital discharge Margaret into the care of Peter Tobin when it was pretty obvious that he was the one who caused her injury? I just don't get it. I can understand why Margaret wouldn't tell anyone but why wouldn't the hospital have put the pieces together? I don't think the two killers are the same, they seem to target slightly different victims and use different methods of killing. At the same time though, Peter couldve dyed his hair when the police sketch came out. I know that doesn't explain the height issue but still.
Back in the day, domestic violence was not understood the way it is nowadays. Perpetrators got away with it very easily.
Madison More if you watched the Bible John video. Not saying you didn’t. But I remember her saying that some of the staff and other witnesses said that he was shorted than six foot.
Madison More
Right, or why not her parents
If she didn't express that she didn't want to go back to him there's not icy the hospital can do
IKR! That could have saved so many lives that were taken by him if they knew why she was hurt
I can’t imagine what his son saw while staying with him!
oh his poor 5 year old mind! :o
Hope he doesn't have the killing instinct in him with a father like that.
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Hope he had help early on if he developed disassociative mental illness after what he might have seen
I feel like peter dyed his hair red and was wearing taller shoes at the time of those murders. It's probably just me but I feel like it matches up too well.
I was literally saying that lmfaoo. It’s actually possible, I thought I was the only one
his niece also has red hair soo idkk
so maybe as he got older it just turn a darker color or just dyed it
He's 5ft 6 so he was wearing 4 inch shoes? 😂
What about the dna not matching?
You should look into Francis Tumbelty. He was a “herb doctor” and was frequently in trouble with the law. He even made people believe that he was a general in the union army during the american civil war. Later in life he moved to London where he was eventually a high suspect for Jack the Ripper. He’s really interesting and it’s a crazy story
the devil works hard but eleanor works harder
Amy Grocott oof
Murderers work hard but Eleanor works harder
TRUE lol
Amy Grocot i can’t like, it’s 666
@@vinsueringamer2388 ..but extremely well put !
He actually lived and buried these people in his garden which backed into my grandads garden.. my grandad moved 2 weeks before it all came out. My grandad said he was always worried and cautious of him
swear to god you always post as I'm in relaxation mode, yesterday i was getting in the bath, today I've just applied a facemask... timing on point u big virgin xo
Alicia Dowling you big virgin? 😂
girl, this comment inspired me to let myself relax and take a break, thanks bb
Omg you're the one that commented you were in the bath 😂
I saw your comment yesterday aswell
EXO99 hahahahah hello that’s me(: luv my fans xo
The whole account of Tobin being short with dark hair.... wasn’t bible john reported to be a lot shorter than 6 ft and have dark hair by the bouncers?
Alice Whitehouse yeah exactly and honestly I would trust the bouncers more they’re very attentive to who is in and out of their bars and are sober.... which most of the people who interacted with Bible John were not sober. Definitely could give a ROUGH description of a guy I hung out with at a bar if asked but if you were to show me a photo and say “this is them” I’m sure it would look slightly different than my description. Like the hair color, height, eye color (all the things that are different between Tobin and John)
Yes, but they also think maybe they were describing the guy who Tanya was with, not Helen. Maybe Tanya was with Peter?...
I don't think it was him he buried all his confirmed victims yet bible john left all his out
Eleanor: Peter Tobin was clearly no red head... show pics of his niece a few minutes later....
yk i gotta theory what if . peter and john were the two guys the sisters were with that night but only john killed that night maybe bc if both sisters die it's too supish yk just a theory
Isn't it weird how the serial killer who WANTED police to find the body's was never "found" (as in found out) but someone who tried to hide everything got 2x life sentences + 30 years in prison. Mind blowing.
Killers who gets away probably know how to evade the ones looking for them... he might have been one of the cops or an investor or someone that could fellow the case and hide evidence to taunt his colleagues.
@@loveisgolden4321 Light Yagami be like:
Difference in circumstances and crimes will do that
because they tried to hide it, it’s been proven that if you admit to everything you get a lesser sentence (depending on the crime) he actively hid everything from police
Here's my theory about the Bible John/Peter Tobin connection. I do think they are the same person and here is my explanation. It is very unlikely that Peter Tobin only committed the crimes that he has been charged with throughout his life when we consider his age. At the same time, there is something very peculiar about Bible John's criminal history as well; all of his victims were on their periods. I find it unlikely that he knew this about his victims when he approached them. It is also statistically very questionable that all the women he targeted just happened to be on their periods. Two explanations come to mind: 1. he would regularly pick up random women from the bar for sexual encounters and seeing three of these women on their periods infuriated him (sounds much like Peter Tobin I say) so he snapped and killed only them and did nothing to the other women or 2. these three women were only a fraction of his other murders but the style of murder was completely different BECAUSE they were on their periods - like he wanted the police to find them and to know why he committed these murders (hence making the towels very visible) as he made no attempt to cut up/hide/preserve the bodies, because to him these women were probably not worth the effort. I personally think the second theory is true - that the reason why we believe the two to be completely different people is because the psychology behind these two sets of murders is completely different - one set was committed by a Peter Tobin who wanted to see blood and the other set was by a Peter Tobin who was disgusted by the sight of blood. Two completely different motives, two completely different personalities and therefore two completely different styles of murder.
thats one very interesting theory!
Interesting?
Random person On TH-cam yes?
Am I the only one that wants to know if he had some kind of personality-disorder?
makes sense, especially because he wanted to be in control. seeing women on their period, instead of him inflicting the bleeding, was probably infuriating. he loved blood but wanted to be the one to make them bleed. maybe?
give me them eyeshadow skills please xoxo
It looks gorgeous today! Well it's gorgeous every day but I'm living for todays look! 😍
Nah ur shadow looks fly sis
better than the beauty gurus
Lol
also peter tobin doesnt deserve such a cool name as "operation anagram"
Honestly when I heard Eleanor say “and she said where is Bute?” My heart literally dropped. Dropped right down. The things people can do, I don’t even know what to think, this is so shocking.
Lilly Evans Aaaah yesss because hearing that he’s killed people and abused people viciously is no big deal but gosh! How could he hurt the dog!! It’s such a shock
is that all you got from the vid? its literally fucking irrelevant compared to the rest
the dog was mentioned before a lot of what he had done. The guy was a terrible person, but dogs are still living beings. Thats messed up. It doesnt equate to what he did to hos victims, but i dont blame people for getting upset over that.
@@dZRize it’s not just about the dogs death... it’s about what that man put her through... he gave her one thing that made her happy and then disposed of it inhumanely because it caused him inconvenience
@@headmelteroninstagram5979 its not even your comment so you cant really say its not just about that dog when thats all the comment mentioned
peter tobin used to be my neighbor when I was younger, scary 😳😳
the margate house?
no yhanks 🤩
Omg. What did he do while he was there??
Wow!!! Very scary...😱🤭
SHIT
I gotta say, I appreciate all the work she puts into these. From the research, filming, editing, DAILY UPLOADS!! Great content from a great person. Much appreciated Eleanor
Tell me why the second I finished the last video she uploaded this one 😍😭 a Queen always provides
This one hits home - for two days a week I used to stay at my granny's house, when I was younger, which was just metres away from a hideout he allegedly had, which was also about 500 metres away from two primary schools, one of which I went to. I consider myself lucky that I wasn't that outgoing at the age in which he was in Paisley.
Matthew McFadyen what primary schools in Paisley
Why? He specifically targeted teenage girls and women, he didnt go for primary aged children, boys or men. Infact, if anything, he had a genuine affection for boys as shown with how he treated his own little boy. You wouldnt have been a victim here regardless of how 'outgoing' or not you were.
Tea Pot he attacked 2 young girls in his house while his son was in his care… his dna was on Vicky Hamilton’s purse
it’s 1:52am and i’m really about to watch an hour long video about a serial killer
YOOO its 1:50am here for me haha
Its 3 am for me
It’s 3 am for me ( almost 4 ) and I have to get up for school at 7 whoops
Oof lmao.
Close your windows
i literally recite the disclaimer along with you every video lol
same lmao
same😂
LOL Same!
Saaaame😂
Same
maybe Bible John lured the women *to* Peter Tobin?
bran I love that theory yessss! It makes sense
Daisy ikr!!
but then who murdered the victims since it was so different ? it seems unlikey that peter murdered them since it was so different and why would bible john want to lure them to peter ?
arsenic Maybe they both wanted to kill but only one would get his hands dirty or maybe they helped each other. We will probably never know.
Maybe one of them just liked to watch??
The work and effort that must go into these videos is insane
I feel like he is Bible John. 4 inches isn't THAT big of a height difference. Plus the bouncers at the Barrowland Ballroom all said he had brownish hair, in contradiction to Genie's description. Making him match the description almost perfectly, down to the second tooth. Also, even though those murders don't necessarily match the way he killed later on in life, those 3 would've been some of the first murders. That means he may not have known the most satisfying way for him. Also, and ik this is gross, but wouldn't the fact that Bible John only killed women on their period also point to a fascination with blood? I'm just saying it's too many coincidences for me...
Also, that poor puppy 🙁
Liz braley I think this is the most likely explanation, to be honest. When citing all the differences between Peter and Bible John, the differences aren’t as grand and impossible when you weigh them against the similarities. And then taking into account the fact that he would’ve been in his twenties, it’s likely that those were his first few killings and he was still figuring out what he did and didn’t like. It lines up perfectly to me. But maybe we’ll just never know for sure. Either way, it’s all very interesting.
He had 2 solid alibi,s for 2 of the murders, one being...he was in police custody at the time...
@@dedefranzino3854 I agree completely
exactly. There have only ever been 34 serial killers in the UK (that the police know off) so what are the chances of two of them hanging around the Barrowland ballroom at the same time?
i can’t believe he attacked women on their periods. How disgusting
I’m 22 year old guy who loves listening to your videos on the train to work, at the gym etc. 🤗
that’s cool and all but no one cares lmao x
penelope lilly 18 people do so.. anyway I just wanted to leave a message to Eleanor to let her know I’m among her audience what’s wrong with that :-)
caramel cow now its 45 :) I can imagine that being at the gym listening to this is really good! Her voice is really nice to listen to! Loud and clear without sounding forced!
Idk what’s up with that first person that commented, jeeeeez, people like to talk crap for literally no reason. I too listen to her cases at the gym lol
@@daisyy3631 did you know that putting others down is a sign of insecurity...I’m just saying
I was one of the security guards standing behind Tobin while he was on trail in Dundee for the killing of Vicky Hamilton. Her dad broke my heart seeing the pain he was going through, her mum died not knowing what happened to her.
Peter Tobin has to be one of the worst killers in UK ever.....
"He's quite frail and in bad health." Good.
Yes and no, we wouldn't want him to die early now, would we? He can't endure the constant fear of looking over his shoulder like the women he terrorized if he dies now.
The bast@rd deserves bad health.
no not good he should suffer for longer
Yeah but I also want him to suffer.
His frailty and bad health is suffering in and of itself; yet he deserves much more.
"never lated a finger on his son"
*picture of his finger on the son*
wat...?
@@Chelle8847 "never laid a finger on his son"
*pictures him laying a finger on his son*
(I'm pretty sure that's what they meant)
Rachel W The comment was referencing the picture she put up as she said “he never laid a finger on his son” (figuratively) and the picture is him literally putting a single finger on his son.
Time stamp?
26:45
That poor puppy 😭😭😭
Ellie Bear ik😭 honestly idk who would kill a person or a puppy, he was/is a sick sick person
Yea and who would play football with it , that’s horrid
You would know its a puppy's head and not a football. Wonder how those children ended up? What was done to that puppy was so horrible. Who plays football with a puppy's head or a animals head honestly, what is wrong with them.
Nichole Alderfer exactly you would tell that its not a ball at all those kids probably will/did grow up to be ppl that don't care about animals
I hate animal abusers so much
You’re like the only youtuber that I can watch the full videos of
This Vicki Hamilton is one of my distant relatives on my dads side and I watched this video several times and thought omg Hamilton was the last name of my grandma I should ask but thought it was just a coincidence and I got into the conversation with dad about true crime and then an advert for spit dna kits came up on the tv and I started talking about how I want to try it and my dad went into family history and told me about her and I recognised the case mainly from this video I’d previously watched several times
To that inmate that slashed Tobin:
You are bad guy, but that dont make you bad *guy*
Dude was a r*pist too soo that guy was a lesser POS
He was a rapist too
So was a bad guy
Wasn’t he a rapist tho
@@geekgirl_luv4262 I was unaware of that ☹️
My grandma could of been a victim to him. He tried to get her in his car but thankfully she refused.
im so glad she refused
and i hope shes doing okay
S u r e
@@hannahcollings6358 i don't know if you're being sarcastic but he came from a small town outside Glasgow so he's probably not lying
Hannah Collings lmao I hate people like you. Like if you don’t believe it then go on with your day . 🤷🏽♀️ Don’t have to be sarcastic it just makes you look rude.
CONSPIRACY- Bible John and Peter Tobin were siblings
If it is was then the DNA sample would have pointed to them being related
What about step siblings, or childhood friends or a helper pr something. There are a lot of connections..
Mia Jones Damn, just seen your comment after I had made the same comment, There were 8 siblings (3 older brothers I think?) and they had all had a rough start in life with violent parents so seems like a logical connection to make
@@leahlarsen7019 They had the semen left on the third victim if that semen was in some way related to Peter Tobin there would have been a partial match in the database and then police would have searched for his male relatives.
maybe, maybe not. but i do believe they are connected in one way or another
The fact that not one but at least TWO serial killers frequented that ballroom place is so unsettling 😵
Also love you sm Eleanor you’re such a champ for uploading so many long videos consecutively!! 💖
OVER AN HOUR?! yes pleaseee
When will they learn you can't release rapist from prison? Far far too many re-offend.
Rape should be an automatic life sentence
Agree
Tru :(
Which would make it even harder to get a conviction.
Ikr. I was like, all these releases, they didn't really think, to not let him out? Really?
@@sophiejameson4064 nah. Those who are convicted today are cases where the evidence was undoubtable- that wouldnt change simply because its a life sentence. Most cases dont lead to convictions because of
“lack of evidence”- that too will likely unchange with the amount of old conservative males leading the nations justice system..
Yaaas Queen! One hour left of my sons football practice and this just saved me 🙌🏼❤️
Chelsea Stafford lol
Cannot wait for my food to get here so I can watch this
I love your channel!!!You are definitely one of my favourite true crime youtubers!!!Good wishes and lots of kisses!!!😚💗💗
Hey girl! I've been subscribed for over a year, but for some reason I have never seen a notification or even see you in my subscription feed :/ I've always really enjoyed your videos, and so when I saw you comment I figured I accidentally subscribed but I was still subscribed. Anywho, just thought I should let you know about this in case other people are experiencing it. Love you xxxx
🤣🤣🤣
Awesome seeing TH-camrs excited for content from other TH-camrs. IDk just expresses the community's good nature.
Yes! Her videos are great to snack to! Except for when she talks about flesh and dismantling and stuff but I get over it eventually and continue eating.
*threatens to kill son and wife*
Court and Judge: lol, yeah you can have full access
Wut?
It tracks. My ex has a sordid history of domestic violence, stalking, harassment, etc...now has primary custody after suing me back to back for a decade.
They really don't care about the kids.
Appreciate your dedication and consistency this past week. Has been a treat to look forward to each video. Much love to your channel! 💕
He is so similar to bible John but he just doesn’t look like him. Even the eye colour is different. But maybe they were friends/siblings or whatever doing this on purpose to confuse everyone
Could be that people just remember the eye color/hair color etc wrong, they might have been drinking a bit too much and maybe lights made it look a bit different than what it actually was or maybe even hair dye or something. In the other video(about Bible John) the staff said he had brown hair(and eyes I believe) and was shorter than 6ft and they should have been sober and maybe had seen the person before in there
"how many people do you know that have an overlapping tooth in the upper right corner of thier mouth?"
Me, who has an overlapping tooth in the upper right corner of my mouth: none
same 😭
Plot twist; YOU'RE bible john
Omg me too tho
I'm the opposite I have an overlapping tooth on lower left side of my mouth
same
I don’t think he is bible John, because if there was so many witnesses saying that he was around 6ft and red head then it can’t be because Peter didn’t look like that but then you never know.. 🤔
Yeah thats true, but remember the bouncer said he was shorter with brown hair... so as you said, who knows... it really is a mystery sadly.
Alicebeth102
Yeah.And Bible John also has dark blue eyes and tall
Tobin was in custody night of a bible john murder
Thank you so much for doing this case :) I was gonna suggest it as I'm a forensic science student and one of my lecturers was involved in the investigation and told us to check out this case
Hi! I'm interested in study forensic science so, I would like to ask you how's the career, what subjects are the strongest in the field, is difficult to study this career? If you respond I would be so grateful!
@@peanutbuttersquid6124 If you actually like science like chemistry and stuff and putting pieces of the puzzle together isn't that difficult
@@beatrizcosta9945 I love chemistry so I think is perfect for me! Thanks for the help :)
my hair is naturally the same color as tobin's but can look bright red in the sun or direct light (like the same color as eleanor's if not brighter). the lights in the car could have changed the color of tobin's hair. also, how tall were helen and jeannie? because as someone who's a bit over 5 feet, 5'6 could look like roughly 6 feet to me, especially if i wasn't paying attention to his height bc he's not my date.
It’s very likely. They said they were both quite petit. I’m 5’3 and when I see a guy a lot taller than me I’m just like “idk he’s probably about 6 foot” he also was dressed very nicely and a lot of men’s dress shoes add a boost. It could make up to a few inches difference. So if he was around 5’7-5’8 and was wearing a dress shoes with a little lift he could’ve looked around 6’0
omg, I was saying the same. I'm 1,60 (I'm not good with feet and inches), but yeah, people between 1,70 and 1,85 all read as 'around 6 feet' to me
Agreed. My natural color is a light brown that looks really red in sunlight. I'm 5'2" ND anyone over like 5'8" could be 6 foot if I'm not paying attention/dark in a room.
whole video: serial killer
me: AGGRESSIVELY SOBBING ABOUT THE PUPPY WHO HAD ITS HEAD CHOPPED OFF AND HAD TEENAGERS KICK IT AROUND
Same 😭😭
Oh yeah your thumbnail tells a different story.
Alice ?
God. I can't imagine how messed up Margaret was after everything that happened to her. And I'm willing to bet that the teen's who where kicking the dog's head around were violent adults.
wasn't confirmed, though...
That would not surprise me.
honestly i think that they were kind of examining it rather than kicking it around because that doesnt really make sense
that made me feel sick
It's absolutely amazing how they were able to piece together everything. Forensics has came so far! Also, this guy's probably the most textbook Psychopath I've ever heard of.
Literally I’ve been binge watching your videos for like a week now - I was watching them constantly at college after watching one of your solved cases last Monday and I’m honestly in awe of you like you’re the loveliest person ever and your content!? I’m shook😩
This just shows that children who grow up in a toxic environment have the potential to become damaged beyond belief
Elizabeth Marco so why aren’t the rest of the kids serial killers? I think psychopaths are born that way but the way they are raised can escalate their personalities.
I said have the potential- I think becoming a psychopath is the extreme and across that spectrum one would more generally see alcohol and drug abuse, promiscuity, low self esteem, violence, ect..The surrounding environment growing up really dictates ones later life, I mean it is scientifically proven. That is why in areas of poverty where a two parent household isn’t as stable, drug and alcohol abuse is much higher than in an area of stability. Now that being said, of course, there will always be exceptions.
Jess M I also think you have a point, in scientific communities it is a hotly debated issue of weather behavioral problems are inherited or if they are a product of abusive circumstances imprinted on a child. While I personally believe environment plays a larger role than genetics when it comes to behavior, I also know of people who were brought up very healthy, emotionally and physically, yet were troubled from the get go. No one size fits all.
You dont become a physcopath. Physcopathic people have a chemical inbalance in their brains and do not feel remorse or empathy. A socioptah is created but a physcopath is born.
I was sexualy abused by my biological father. I have had ptsd since age 5. I never hurt anyone. I find it an excuse about shitty childhoods. Yes, it can raise you chances. But, the Minority of people do not turn into rapists and murders.
I could watch true crime videos all day, but one mention of animal cruelty will have me sob my heart out...
this one really hits close to home because my mum's best friend, her little sister was vicky hamilton one of peter tobin's victims. absolutely heartbreaking
My best friends gran taught her
So I should be doing my portfolios and studying for my 5 exams this week but being here is so much better u feel me
ever since i learned ur my age im mind blown. i wouldnt be able to include every detail like you do, you think everything through so deeply for these videos. i love it thank u for teaching us sm
Should be doing homework but there’s a new true crime case... I think I know which one I’m choosing
Marli Kebell sameee😂
Mood
Same
Yep that’s me
Same
Can’t just be me who noticed Eleanor had different nails as soon as I started watching, too obsessed with ur Channel that I notice shit like this😂
I'm always stuck with her hair. So beautiful, shiny and mesmerising!
Me too! I was like ooohhh new nails
Csilla And her eyebrows 😣.
Csilla In fact, everything is beautiful and mesmerising lol
I did too😂💋
My relationship with my ex was just like Peter and Margaret. Makes me shudder that I survived.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that
Naburu Orion I’m so sorry about that, I hope your in a better place now
Michael Schofield 😐
@Michael Schofield I have plenty photos of black eyes, busted lips, x-rays, police reports and an order of protection, dear.
@@ChismosaJonesYou don't have to prove anything to anyone. Ignore this idiot.
SO STOKED about a video from Eleanor that’s over an hour long- the long, LONG ones are my all time FAVORITES!
Love your context & all your hard work! You’ve always been my favorite & always will be!
An hour video??? Omg Eleanor you angel ❤️❤️❤️😇😇
Nah he deserves to be traumatized from the attack. No remorse for him.
Yesss your makeup is on point! And I feel like it makes your eyes greener? Super pretty 💛
RaeAClark I didnt notice but it does
Racheal Clark she’s wearing blue contacts lmao
This is brilliant, improvements in every video, I am so proud of you
The escalation from choking to more savagely beating his victims would make sense, especially given his fascination with blood. Maybe the first murders were more "instinctive" murders from his side but as his experiences grew he escalated it to more brutal modes of killing? And maybe the sketches got too close and he felt scared, which is why he started to hide the bodies instead of leaving them out ..
I admire your work ethic so much! Getting this many daily videos out that have so much work put into them is amazing. Thank you for putting so much effort into your videos, they’re great!
1 hour long? Blessed
Am I supposed to feel bad for him getting cut up 😂
One second, Ellie. I’ve got 9 minutes left of yesterday’s video, I’ve liked already though :)
Tysm for liking my comment Ellie! 💕
☺
thank you for this! you’ve worked so hard and we all really appreciate it 💖💖💖
I know this isn’t relevant to the story but your makeup looks amazing
I’m so proud of your consistency 😍!!!
This dude lived down the Road from me when I was in school. I remember my best friends house had been evacuated. They dug up the garden as apparently he lived there previously. They found several bodies
Peter Tobin lived really close to the house I grew up in 1994 when he assaulted those two girls in Hampshire
HOUR long video from our babe Eleanor? Yes please 😍❤️
YOURE KILLING IT MATE
Maybe thats not the right caption to use ............
@@noof2580 it definitely was the right word to use
You're videos are always so detailed! You're doing great work Eleanor.
OBSESSED with these videos, I live in Bathgate and I remember hearing about the Vicky Hamilton situation. Broke my heart :(
My heart literally dropped when you mentioned Vicky
. I am from Falkirk and it makes me sick to my stomach every time I hear about this case 😭😭
It never ceases to amaze me just how much effort you put in to your videos. You do such a brilliant job and i love the way you weave the story together. Keep up the great work. :)
the coincidences between peter & bible john are SO frustrating, i can't imagine what it'd be like to be working on the case, thinking they're getting close to solving it & then it all comes to nothing. but anyway this video was excellent, as they always are - the research, filming & editing work must be brutal rn so thank you so so so much for your videos, i look forward to them so much 💜
Hi, I know you've got lots of requests all the time, but I have one :) in my area, Devon, there was a case called the Beehive Murder some time ago. The murderer had an affair with victim, and killed himself on the opposite side of the world. There are no true crime videos on it, and I don't know what information you'd be able to find online, but I can give you information if needed. It'd be good for a short video between long ones or something :)
Thanks for the consistently brilliant content love x
Katie xox Yasss Devon! Samee
here i am scrolling through the comments and i see my name and am startled for a second before actually reading the comment 😅😅 😅
literally been binging your videos since 9 this morning and i’m not stopping anytime soon 😂
I was all "I'll watch this and then go to bed" and noticed it's OVER AN HOUR LONG. IT'S NOT LIKE I CAN STOP NOW IM ALREADY 15 MINUTES IN.
Update: Y'all know I watched it to the end and went to bed at 3am
Literally had to skip the bit about the dog :'( poor little pup didn't deserve that
Holly Jo No animals deserve to suffer and die unnecessarily, that’s why I’m vegan. There’s no difference between the dogs we love and the animals exploited and killed for food. Just something to think about. It’s easy to live vegan and if you want to learn more you can visit www.HowDoIGoVegan.com and you can also order a free vegan starter kit from www.InternationalVegan.org 😊
P.S. I had to skip the part about the puppy too 😭
Jane Doe7x darling I agree that’s why I’m vegetarian x
Holly Jo I don’t know if you’re aware, but vegetarianism still causes animals to be exploited and slaughtered. All dairy cows and egg laying hens are sent to the slaughterhouse when their production declines. Also, male chicks of the egg industry are considered “waste” because they don’t lay eggs so they are ground up alive at a day old, and male calves are slaughtered at 6 month’s old and labeled “veal”. There’s no moral difference between meat and other animal products. I was a vegetarian for years and I was so devastated when I learned that I was still causing animals to be slaughtered x
Jane Doe7x sorry but no one really cares what you are. Not everyone shares the same beliefs as you. If the person above you is a vegetarian then they are. Not everyone is interested in being vegan hun x
Jane Doe7x we’re all just doing our bit darling, don’t try and attack me just because I’m not the same as you, this is why veganism gets a bad rap x
I just love your channel, I've been binge watching since I found it a few days ago. You are an awesome presenter, and you always look so flawless! I love your eye makeup, I wish I could make my eyes look like that! Keep up the great work, thank you for all the videos!!
I don't think he's bible John. seems like a different killer
i agree.
Yeah I agree. I don't think that he would exhibit all those specific behaviours such as quoting the bible texts that gave him the moniker in just those 3 murders and then not in the next murders
I agree bible john liked older women where peter liked younger women their were in their teen most of the time
What I don’t get is that there would be DNA in the jewellery that they found at his home. Like skin particles or hair caught in the chains of necklaces etc
MikaylaC204 unless he had cleaned it
I know this is 5 months late but there might've been way too little dna to be useful
Peter: *gets sliced in the face and throat*
Me: "Thats Cool😀👍"
Boom first! Im never first 😂😂 And its over an hour long! I'm so happy!!
Your not first sorry
Your 14th
I was the first comment I meant not the first view. There was 2 views 0 comments.
I'm 37 year old, I wouldn't have wrote that I was first if there had been other comments there..
That would be silly! I only wrote that because I was suprised there weren't any other comments and I didnt know what else to write. I was just shocked I was so early. I'm not going to argue about it lol, I don't care if I'm 1st or 101st. I'm just here for Eleanor 🤷♀️
lea martin they’re being petty, ignore them 🤷🏻♀️
People who disliked must’ve had their screens upside down. Don’t understand why you’d dislike this!!
I live in margate 😱 omg so weird to know that he lived here 😱 Edit: I SPOKE TO MY MUM AND HIS PLACE IS LITERALLY UP THE HILL FROM ME HOLY SHIT BAGS
Holy shit what!!!!!! I live here too!!! Talk to me x
This sick bastard has literally been EVERYWHERE. His even been to my town too.
Ugh I feel a bit guilty to say it but he has such severe anxiety after being victim to a prison attack yet he brought so much terror to so many women. That feels more like justice to me than even being in prison, maybe a bit of a dose of his own medicine so to speak.