No need for an either/or decision on the intake hose/elbow if you go for a single piece hose with integral turbo coupling (no separate elbow needed). The Forge one is a good piece of kit. MRC also use a Forge hose but with their own coupling design. Clearly you wouldn’t for the purposes of this video, but Mark’s money saving tip of the day for anyone considering a similar setup. Great video thanks Andrew. 🙌🏼
When you drove a Mk8 GTI with the sunroof, vs your own without a sunroof, was the difference really noticeable in terms of handling? Would it the weight of the sunroof be noticeable on a track day?
Great question! Not driven a car with a sunroof on track but the physics would suggest it's not a good idea, the additional weight in the roof will be magnified with lateral loading and increase body roll. Also it can't be good for torsional rigidity, the cracks on later 7.5 GTI sunroof surrounds are testament to this.
@@volkswizardracks around the sunroof frame? I'm currently in a Mk7 GTD looking to move into a Petrol 7.5. Like pan roofs on hot days, didn't have a great experience when it jammed on my R56 JCW. Is it much the same story for the VW Group pan roofs.... Good when they are new and in warranty, expensive and noisey when they aren't 😆?
This series is gonna be great. Only hot hatch I'd swap my Cupra 280 for is a CS S, but I don't have the extra £20k 😅Guess I'll have to live the CS S life vicariously through this series!
Thanks! I still have a lot of respect for the Cupra 280/290 and only really made the change because I'd had a CSS before and wanted to own one and enjoy it properly as you only live once:)
Brilliant video Andrew - such a nice example of sensible tweaks and glad to hear your trading experience being put to good use sourcing great cars for a dealer - here’s to 100k subscribers soon 👏🥳👍🎯
I think I'm one of the people responsible for you getting the elbow and inlet pipe 😂 Would love a set of those R360 on my cupra Got the muffler delete on my cupra 290, made a small difference to turbo noise bit nothing major. Also feels a bit more responsive but my old one had a split O ring... Intresting to see Paul now at racingline, recognise him from revo and their videos
It's a Clubsport S so isn't directly comparable to Mk8 CS, Clubsport Edition 40 is 265/290 PS depending on overboost. Having said that you could say Mk8 Clubsport is the old GTI Performance as it's the second model in GTI line up so 245 has become 300 PS. There is a feeling that power outputs won't get much higher now though due to ICE R&D budgets slashed to fund EV development and ever tightening emissions regulations
Subtle modifications. I had a remap on my R Estate, frankly I hated it and had it returned to stock. It was a reputable remap, not a back street upload, it wasn't for me.
Having just done similar mods to mine this was super interesting to see. Great content- who is the dealer you're buying for? I'd like to look at their stock.
Great video Andrew. ❤ RL equipment. Why VW don't link in with their OEM spec range as an option for buyers (as Alpina or AMG) I'll never know. Good luck with the prep for your track visit👍
No to muffler delete, like to try things separately to assess the effect. As it standard the noise is perfect for me and even if there are slight performance gains with TMD I'd still rather stick with where we are now.
@@ap6584 yes, definitely. the whooshing of the turbo is really noticeable...you can hear the boost building and it being dumped again but not in the same way as a blow off valve...thankfully!
I talked to RL about muffler delete, plan was to see what it sounded like with intake and elbow first and TBH it's pretty damn perfect now so probably won't bother unless it has a performance gain
Thanks Shane, yep the seats are the dogs danglers - nerdy fact, on Clubsport Edition 40 with them fitted as an option, even on 5 door you can tilt them forward, how cool is that?!
With just the R600 yes, with the TIP and hose no not really - the plot shows 4500 rpm is where it performs better but even 100% standard it's fierce from that point onwards anyway. But the data doesn't lie so it's there, maybe with some more miles where I drive it hard I will notice a difference but well worth the cost anyway
@@ap6584 I'd say I made the mistake in chasing to much power ....negatively affected the driverbility of my golf I'd say anywhere around 365 would be optimal....
@@ap6584is38 turbo, full decat exhaust .airtec stage 2 intercooler, r600 , plus a few r8 bits I was running around 410 bhp with high torque....was way 2 much for the car in my opinion...but it could just be me and my driving style.......
No need for an either/or decision on the intake hose/elbow if you go for a single piece hose with integral turbo coupling (no separate elbow needed). The Forge one is a good piece of kit. MRC also use a Forge hose but with their own coupling design. Clearly you wouldn’t for the purposes of this video, but Mark’s money saving tip of the day for anyone considering a similar setup. Great video thanks Andrew. 🙌🏼
First time I have seen a FWD car on a four wheel dyno.
When you drove a Mk8 GTI with the sunroof, vs your own without a sunroof, was the difference really noticeable in terms of handling? Would it the weight of the sunroof be noticeable on a track day?
Great question! Not driven a car with a sunroof on track but the physics would suggest it's not a good idea, the additional weight in the roof will be magnified with lateral loading and increase body roll. Also it can't be good for torsional rigidity, the cracks on later 7.5 GTI sunroof surrounds are testament to this.
@@volkswizardracks around the sunroof frame? I'm currently in a Mk7 GTD looking to move into a Petrol 7.5.
Like pan roofs on hot days, didn't have a great experience when it jammed on my R56 JCW. Is it much the same story for the VW Group pan roofs.... Good when they are new and in warranty, expensive and noisey when they aren't 😆?
@@Kraken2681994 exactly that, highly overrated option and I actively look for cars without it
@@Willemmoseley great, thanks for the advice.
Not a VW owner but the Golf GTi cs was for me the best 👏
Enjoying the series Andrew. You need to shout me up on your next trip to roundabout City. Hope you are keeping well pal.
So much better all round isn't it Andrew. I found my R just felt so much nicer after this mod.
This series is gonna be great. Only hot hatch I'd swap my Cupra 280 for is a CS S, but I don't have the extra £20k 😅Guess I'll have to live the CS S life vicariously through this series!
Thanks! I still have a lot of respect for the Cupra 280/290 and only really made the change because I'd had a CSS before and wanted to own one and enjoy it properly as you only live once:)
Brilliant video Andrew - such a nice example of sensible tweaks and glad to hear your trading experience being put to good use sourcing great cars for a dealer - here’s to 100k subscribers soon 👏🥳👍🎯
😳..... first I think I've ever heard a positive comment on the MK4. 😁
I didn't say the huffing and chuffing is much more obvious with a blown 06A 145 710 N diverter valve, another Mk4 weakness :)
I think I'm one of the people responsible for you getting the elbow and inlet pipe 😂
Would love a set of those R360 on my cupra
Got the muffler delete on my cupra 290, made a small difference to turbo noise bit nothing major. Also feels a bit more responsive but my old one had a split O ring...
Intresting to see Paul now at racingline, recognise him from revo and their videos
so the old clubsport has more power than the mk8 clubsport?
It's a Clubsport S so isn't directly comparable to Mk8 CS, Clubsport Edition 40 is 265/290 PS depending on overboost. Having said that you could say Mk8 Clubsport is the old GTI Performance as it's the second model in GTI line up so 245 has become 300 PS. There is a feeling that power outputs won't get much higher now though due to ICE R&D budgets slashed to fund EV development and ever tightening emissions regulations
I'm looking forward to the Golf R video 😂
So am I, it was over very quickly so I'll enjoy it more via the footage ❤
Another great video on the CSS Andrew and looking forward to the road to the ring!
Thanks Ryan! Episode 2 is as good as filmed so look out for that next week 👍🏻
@@volkswizard excellent 👌
How do I PM you Andrew?
Always a joy to see the project evolving...Keep going Andrew
Thanks Ivan B, with kind comments like yours, I am more motivated to "keep going" 🙌🏻
Love to know what makes it a racingline elbow. Looks same as somet from aliexpress with a sticker on +£££
Might look the same but doubt many others have been designed used Computational Fluid Dynamics technology
Subtle modifications. I had a remap on my R Estate, frankly I hated it and had it returned to stock.
It was a reputable remap, not a back street upload, it wasn't for me.
I totally get that
Having just done similar mods to mine this was super interesting to see. Great content- who is the dealer you're buying for? I'd like to look at their stock.
Thanks A P. Unfortunately the dealer doesn't want me to reveal who they are and which cars I manage to source for them.
Great video Andrew. ❤ RL equipment. Why VW don't link in with their OEM spec range as an option for buyers (as Alpina or AMG) I'll never know. Good luck with the prep for your track visit👍
Thanks Tony - VW UK have zero interest in performance cars now due to all eggs in the EV basket so those days have gone sadly
Worth it just for that sound
Agreed!
Great video 😎🤙🏽
Thanks Jay!
glad you did the elbow...did you not do the turbo muffler delete?
No to muffler delete, like to try things separately to assess the effect. As it standard the noise is perfect for me and even if there are slight performance gains with TMD I'd still rather stick with where we are now.
I bought a turbo muffler for mine but held off fitting it, do they make a noticeable difference to anything?
@@ap6584 yes, definitely. the whooshing of the turbo is really noticeable...you can hear the boost building and it being dumped again but not in the same way as a blow off valve...thankfully!
@@remfanuk1970 sounds good I'll get it fitted! Thanks for the reply.
@@ap6584 let us know how you get on with it :)
Clubsport S and RL you know it's gonna be a good combo.
🙌🏻
Nice! I have the r600, inlet pipe and turbo muffler delete on my mk8 gti :)
I bet that sounds good!
Did you consider the muffler delete inlet?
Or what do you think about them?
I talked to RL about muffler delete, plan was to see what it sounded like with intake and elbow first and TBH it's pretty damn perfect now so probably won't bother unless it has a performance gain
Is it possible to d.i.y turn the fake sound off?
Yes use Obd11 you can change the volume or turn off completely
As Joseph said though VCDS/VAG COM will do it too. I think I covered it in my Cupra videos around a year ago
@@volkswizard thank you 😁
Just unplug the thing, 2min job under the scuttle panel im prettu sure.
I'm buying a polo 2.0 gti just got to find a tidy one quite impressed with the racingline polo you tested
How much you looking to spend
@@ad_182_uk 20-21 k
@@chrisp4899 At that money might as well get the golf gti.
@John Guidetti it did cross my mind but it would be older with more miles but I would be able to maintain it
That Racingline Polo was great fun
When you next down at racing line be decent to meet you
Great video thanks.those front seats in the club sport are cool and comfortable looking.
Thanks Shane, yep the seats are the dogs danglers - nerdy fact, on Clubsport Edition 40 with them fitted as an option, even on 5 door you can tilt them forward, how cool is that?!
@@volkswizard I love nerdy facts, I think all car enthusiasts do.
Good stuff Andrew 👏 👌
Thanks Andrew, and thanks so much for your DM via Insta - I'm OK at the moment but very much appreciate the offer 🙌🏻
Wunderbar...😁 enjoyed that video 👍
That's good to Malc, thanks👍🏻
do you feel any difference andy ?
With just the R600 yes, with the TIP and hose no not really - the plot shows 4500 rpm is where it performs better but even 100% standard it's fierce from that point onwards anyway. But the data doesn't lie so it's there, maybe with some more miles where I drive it hard I will notice a difference but well worth the cost anyway
That sure is a cool car.
Thanks so much Steve👍🏻
Stg 2 that thing 😁
I can see the appeal but traction is limited as it is so standard is the real sweet spot with this 2WD car
I'm debating going 400 brake on my 7.5 but is it too much, is circa 300 the sweet spot?
@@ap6584 I'd say I made the mistake in chasing to much power ....negatively affected the driverbility of my golf I'd say anywhere around 365 would be optimal....
@@millicentgranger6035 how much did you take it to?
@@ap6584is38 turbo, full decat exhaust .airtec stage 2 intercooler, r600 , plus a few r8 bits I was running around 410 bhp with high torque....was way 2 much for the car in my opinion...but it could just be me and my driving style.......