Cooley your the greatest to ever do it. Please keep the car reviews coming. How about a full review of the 2015 Hyundai Genesis.. There is a lot of talk about that car..
wow you guys in the US get less power than us in the UK/Europe, we get 303hp (I have 330hp) and yes I does indeed pull like a ba#+Ard, I hated oil burners until I test drove a 530d and was amazed, it's a peach of an engine, and so I got a 535d m sport, it's like riding a wave of torque, doesn't matter what speed you are doing you push that pedal and it leaps forward, get it de-ristricted and it will push on to crazy speeds, nice car great engine, suspension gone soft on the latest model though.
+MrArt69 If I am right they only have the 535d (no 530d). The lower power is maybe due to the emission and /or to the lower cetane index for they diesel fuel. I think it is 45 or 48 minimum in the states where as it is 55 in Europe. Of course premium diesel fuel are better, up to 60. I am not 100% sure that the cetane index explain the power difference.
In Europe there is a 258hp 530d and a 313hp 535d .... in think in the States there is only the 530d .... same engine I believe but larger turbos on the 535d
retrolabor. de So, if someone works hard, makes a lot of money, and wants a new car every 3 years, he has a small penis? Maybe, you just have penis envy.
Yes I am. The point is they do not really buy, they lease or use other "bank-ways" or it often is an company-car ( in germany we say "dienstwagen"). - btw I really love cars an own 3, an old one (34), a convertible (14) & a e61 530d lci. When I buy a car I choose one I want to keep a longer time, so the car must be worth it...no smiley this time :P
I've had some track time with both the 535d and the 535i. Yes, the 535i does handle better, but you will only notice that at the limits which I doubt the vast majority of the cars buyers will ever reach so the fuel savings and the extra torque from the diesel makes it worth it.
Paras Kalra I wish any long term owner of this car the best of luck coming up with $4000 when it's time to replace the diesel particulate filter at 100k miles.
Americans ahahhahah, in Europe 50% of cars sold are diesels and most of the executive salons are diesels, a diesel has a much smoother ride then a petrol at the motorway as to get to the power in a petrol you have to rev it hard and bleed your ears, but with a diesel you get power from 1900rpm to 2500rpm, also the torque is good for effortless overtaking. Most people go for the 520d, 184hp which is enough in any reasonable situation yet returns around 50mpg (60+ according to BMW). And no one buys a new BMW and sells it after 3 years, people do that with boring, cheap, standard cars like Hondas and Toyotas.
Awesome. That's what I always wanted in my car. Where the next Pizza place is and pics of where I am going because I have no eyes. It's getting ridiculous.
You fail to mention another key benefit to diesels which is range. To many folks it won't make a difference, but it's nice to know you can drive from here in Tampa to Hilton Head, SC without the need to stop. What if your wife is driving alone in the wee hours? Not having to stop door to door can be a huge beneifit practically, but also for peace of mind.
Diesels are starting to get phased out for many car buyers and diesel bans are already being imposed in major cities in Europe since it is the main reason for bad air quality, pollution and acidification. NOx is slightly worse than CO2 for the environment and is way more carcinogenic. Narrow-minded people like yourself who only care about filling up as seldom as possible need to get educated to see how diesel affects our society in general, particularly the environment and thus see how the disadvantages of diesels far outweigh the economic aspects.
Petrol isn't some kind of special fuel that doesn't pollute and studies have shown it to pollute more from certain types engine. There also isn't a credible alternative to diesel that currently exists. Petrol has terrible efficiency and range like wise batteries and hydrogen aren't currently good enough.
@@JohnSRR-lw4bxthat’s all false. they’re making a comeback now as Mercedes have gone full speed ahead with their diesel hybrids plug-in which are FAR cleaner for the environment and our lungs than a petrol or petrol hybrid. Diesels from about 2017/2018 onwards are cleaner than petrols (proven fact; GreenNCAP and ADAC have tested it). A regular 2.0 diesel Mercedes C-Class (C220d, 2019) was tested and gave a result of *ZERO* mg/km of NOx polluted on a real world test cycle (on-road testing). You really shouldn’t come out with bogus statements without backing them up. Petrols are dirty.
The 535d is almost definitely a better cost proposition than the 535i. Not only will you earn some (if not all) of the difference back in fuel savings, but the 535d will hold its $1500 premium over the 535i on resale, if not even increase that premium since diesels tend to hold their value better than gasoliners.
Cool video I watched it several times and like it. But there is a mistake in: The 535d HAS two turbos (or is a twin turbo)! Although it's right that "Twin Power Turbo" does not mean Two Turbos, also other BMW Diesels have this naming.
Are you saying that this vehicle has two turbos? In which case it isn't so, N57 engines come with only one turbocharger. The reviewer is 100 percent correct on this. N57 engines have what BMW calls a variable nozzle turbine (VNT). I have tons of more info if you are curious.
Another 2 years later, they are at $22K. I have just purchased a 2015 build with 'everything' for $22K @ 56,600 miles. The build with all options, including the high end Bang & Olfsen stereo was $125K when it was ordered in 2014!!
Euro one is the real beast, its a shame the USA one is toned down. Chip tuned euro ones get torque figures north of 550ftlbs of torque. That = mind boggling. More than a m5 and this car is 200kg lighter than m5. A chip tuned 535d euro would be tons of fun.
Dont forget diesel engines can last much longer than gas engines, so maybe leasing one isnt a good idea but purchasing one will give you your moneys worth vs a 535i for example...
Larry Bartlett Well, over the highway it is not too much of a difference unless you got plenty mountains to climb. Usually they don't test it with real situation, say you went on a long distance trip alone in a EPA test that doesn't add up. we need a partner at least to switch driver or someone to talk to.
+Larry Bartlett Reports from real world owners say it is closer to 11 -- low to mid 30's in the diesel, low 20's on the gas 535. The epa notoriously overstates petrol mpg and understates diesel, so that's no surprise.
Bit late to post this comment but I don’t think there would’ve been any reason why you’d buy a 528i or other petrol/gasoline equivalent. The only reason would be if you wanted a 550i v8 or drive in the city? That’s the only I can think of!!
localpeople The diesel engines in BMW's sedans are actually really tame, with many cars going with direct injection you really can't tell the difference. With the exception of my 2012 X5 diesel which sounds like a FedEx van making a delivery, but since it's an SUV I think it sounds good.
Seriously Cooley shut the hell up about the "death hooks" under the hood. They are there for structural rigidity and it's not BMWs fault if you smack your head on them. lol
a $1,500 premium over the gas engine ? would anyone think about this ? have you ever bought a new car ? that is the smallest discount you can get on a luxury car like this.
Do people really trade cars in every 2.75 years? If you are getting a diesel, even for the car to be properly run in, you are looking at 10 - 20000 miles!
Michael Leibowitz Well it's a great car, and it swill still be in three years. Sure a new model might come out but this car will still be amazing. This is not a your $20k chevy that will get outdated in two years, it's a $80-90k car. Who is crazy enough to spend that much money every three years especially if the old car is more than good. I'm sure it will still pull like bastard in 5.6.7 years let alone 3!
Nikola Marunić Sure...but some people get bored with their cars, and they just want something fresh. The nice thing is that someone else will be able to buy a used $80-90k car for half the price.
They have to add a ton of emissions hardware (urea additive, soot traps, etc) for the engine to comply with American emission requirements, which are more strict than Euro 6 standards. All of that added equipment "detunes" the engine, hence the lower HP numbers for the US model.
BomaxGaming Yeah, not the same. 530d have been renamed 535d for the american marked. Just like 320d is called 328d in america. Apperently, a higher number is better :D
retrolabor. de Might have been true earlier, but not now. Atleast not according to the official bmw site. 530d and 535 both have twin turbo, and m550d have 3 turbos.
why have BMW USA offered less powerful diesels in the US than in Europe, the 535d should produce 313BHP as in the European model,, and we saw the same thing a few years ago with the US spec 335d which produced only 265BHP compared with 282BHP in the European model ?
Because US diesel emission regulations are more stringent than European regulations. The 265-hp 335d can meet US regulations with the urea tank, but the 286-hp Euro-spec 335d cannot. So the 535d has to be detuned to comply.
+Raul Espinoza its rated down ,, in real world driving you can get that car to do over 60 mpg ,, no joke ,,, on full fuel tank it is possible to do over 1000 miles :)
+christian Chichester Well, at least you have Xenon as standard.. And backup camera? Really? Those things are ridiculous.. You just don't need them, unless you can't drive.
christian Chichester You call it stupid, I call it wise. Everyone who wants one, can order one. Those few bucks don't hurt. But everyone who doesn't want one, doesn't have to pay for one. Or do you really think, that BMW (or Mercedes or Audi) would install stuff like that and won't change the pricetag?
christian Chichester That's personal preferences, I guess. For me, I really don't care. On the other hand, the european model has even less standard-options than the US-model. Maybe that's why I'm used to pay extra for every little gizmo..
That is not a 535d xdrive. The real 535d x drive has 313hp and 0- 100kp/h in 5s not 5,8. Wtf cnet.... Here is the proof... www.bmw.de/de/neufahrzeuge/5er/limousine/2013/technische-daten.html
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I picked up my 2016 535d MSport xDrive last Saturday and drove it home 10 hours. What a wonderful car.
+7 mpg on the diesel is a HUGE understatement. The 535i will get about 450-550 km/tank and 800-1000 km/tank with the Diesel engine.
Can confirm
I wish he didn't mention covering the diesel sound with the audio, a diesel engine sounds damn great to me
"yes I did you sexy beast"... lmao
A very nice and competently put together review - always a pleasure watching the presenter, also with a sense of humour. Great job!
Another thorough and entertaining review - like the fuel cost comparison at the end as well.
excellent job Brian... as always
Cooley has turn into an automotive review rock star .....
Cooley's flirting with the sat-nav lady.
@2:51 Had me cracking like crazy. loool cooley
1 of my favorite videos!
Sophisto grey is one of the hottest shades of grey out there.
Cooley always makes me laugh with these car reviews
Another great video.
Great episode
Cooley your the greatest to ever do it. Please keep the car reviews coming. How about a full review of the 2015 Hyundai Genesis.. There is a lot of talk about that car..
Very good review!
2:51....wait for it!!!!!!! LOLLL
The voice command chime, sounds like the TiVo Central chime.
:P
wow you guys in the US get less power than us in the UK/Europe, we get 303hp (I have 330hp) and yes I does indeed pull like a ba#+Ard, I hated oil burners until I test drove a 530d and was amazed, it's a peach of an engine, and so I got a 535d m sport, it's like riding a wave of torque, doesn't matter what speed you are doing you push that pedal and it leaps forward, get it de-ristricted and it will push on to crazy speeds, nice car great engine, suspension gone soft on the latest model though.
we don't buy diesels, why would we pay more for diesel and get less power, ect
So you get our european 530d as a 535d.... strange. Here we have a 530d with 258hp and 535d with 313...
+MrArt69 If I am right they only have the 535d (no 530d). The lower power is maybe due to the emission and /or to the lower cetane index for they diesel fuel. I think it is 45 or 48 minimum in the states where as it is 55 in Europe. Of course premium diesel fuel are better, up to 60. I am not 100% sure that the cetane index explain the power difference.
We don't really use Disels in NA
It's all kinda messed up with the BMWs here - recently I learned that a 328 is a two liter turbo, when did that happen?!
still34u that's not an American thing all 328i vehicles regardless of market are 2L I4 turbos
In Europe there is a 258hp 530d and a 313hp 535d .... in think in the States there is only the 530d .... same engine I believe but larger turbos on the 535d
Did he say mid grade gas? So 89? Pretty certain an f10 535i would def require 93. That would make price difference for fuel even greater
which year model F10 would you guys recommend a consumer to buy?
How far can you go on a full tank of diesel compared to the gas version ?? !!
Are you kidding? I love diesel engines.
European?
I don't change cars every 3 years.
Cookie?
Most luxury car owners do however, either for their lease return, or new technologies.
keithrig
or because they got a very small penis. ;-)
retrolabor. de
So, if someone works hard, makes a lot of money, and wants a new car every 3 years, he has a small penis?
Maybe, you just have penis envy.
Yes I am. The point is they do not really buy, they lease or use other "bank-ways" or it often is an company-car ( in germany we say "dienstwagen"). - btw I really love cars an own 3, an old one (34), a convertible (14) & a e61 530d lci. When I buy a car I choose one I want to keep a longer time, so the car must be worth it...no smiley this time :P
I've had some track time with both the 535d and the 535i. Yes, the 535i does handle better, but you will only notice that at the limits which I doubt the vast majority of the cars buyers will ever reach so the fuel savings and the extra torque from the diesel makes it worth it.
+Paras Kalra How can it handle better if the suspensions are same ? Maybe in your imagination it did ,,,, :) .
Rytis Kumpelis The suspension system have to be tuned differently because diesel engines are much heavier than petrol engines.
Rytis Kurcinskas It's hard not to drive BMWs fast.
+Rytis Kurcinskas 1760kg for the 535i and 1810kg for the 535d. Maybe that ca explain his feeling. +50kg is the front can induce more under steer.
Paras Kalra I wish any long term owner of this car the best of luck coming up with $4000 when it's time to replace the diesel particulate filter at 100k miles.
That torque tho
Hi Brian,
How does a bastard pull?
Americans ahahhahah, in Europe 50% of cars sold are diesels and most of the executive salons are diesels, a diesel has a much smoother ride then a petrol at the motorway as to get to the power in a petrol you have to rev it hard and bleed your ears, but with a diesel you get power from 1900rpm to 2500rpm, also the torque is good for effortless overtaking. Most people go for the 520d, 184hp which is enough in any reasonable situation yet returns around 50mpg (60+ according to BMW). And no one buys a new BMW and sells it after 3 years, people do that with boring, cheap, standard cars like Hondas and Toyotas.
Awesome. That's what I always wanted in my car. Where the next Pizza place is and pics of where I am going because I have no eyes. It's getting ridiculous.
You fail to mention another key benefit to diesels which is range.
To many folks it won't make a difference, but it's nice to know you can drive from here in Tampa to Hilton Head, SC without the need to stop.
What if your wife is driving alone in the wee hours? Not having to stop door to door can be a huge beneifit practically, but also for peace of mind.
Diesels are starting to get phased out for many car buyers and diesel bans are already being imposed in major cities in Europe since it is the main reason for bad air quality, pollution and acidification. NOx is slightly worse than CO2 for the environment and is way more carcinogenic. Narrow-minded people like yourself who only care about filling up as seldom as possible need to get educated to see how diesel affects our society in general, particularly the environment and thus see how the disadvantages of diesels far outweigh the economic aspects.
Petrol isn't some kind of special fuel that doesn't pollute and studies have shown it to pollute more from certain types engine. There also isn't a credible alternative to diesel that currently exists. Petrol has terrible efficiency and range like wise batteries and hydrogen aren't currently good enough.
@@JohnSRR-lw4bxthat’s all false. they’re making a comeback now as Mercedes have gone full speed ahead with their diesel hybrids plug-in which are FAR cleaner for the environment and our lungs than a petrol or petrol hybrid. Diesels from about 2017/2018 onwards are cleaner than petrols (proven fact; GreenNCAP and ADAC have tested it). A regular 2.0 diesel Mercedes C-Class (C220d, 2019) was tested and gave a result of *ZERO* mg/km of NOx polluted on a real world test cycle (on-road testing).
You really shouldn’t come out with bogus statements without backing them up. Petrols are dirty.
I think the current 5 Series is the best looking car on the road today
This car would make a lot of sense if one has a lot of towing in mind like a 5th wheel hauler. So what are the towing statistics?
"It would be great if the car had a manual", then ignores the paddles. 😆
The 535d is almost definitely a better cost proposition than the 535i. Not only will you earn some (if not all) of the difference back in fuel savings, but the 535d will hold its $1500 premium over the 535i on resale, if not even increase that premium since diesels tend to hold their value better than gasoliners.
you do great reviews....if you aren't paid well, someone will pay you above market
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"Yes I did you sexy beast" LOL
there should be away for BMW to have the hooks recede when the hood is lifted and then deploy when the hood starts going down.
Cool video I watched it several times and like it. But there is a mistake in: The 535d HAS two turbos (or is a twin turbo)! Although it's right that "Twin Power Turbo" does not mean Two Turbos, also other BMW Diesels have this naming.
Are you saying that this vehicle has two turbos? In which case it isn't so, N57 engines come with only one turbocharger. The reviewer is 100 percent correct on this. N57 engines have what BMW calls a variable nozzle turbine (VNT). I have tons of more info if you are curious.
No your wrong :) 535d European spec 313 bhp two turbos sequantual
American 535d 268 BHP single turbo VGT
@@tortillaandbeans n57 engines come with one, two or three turbos in the f10 platform.
3 years later and you can get one with all those packages for 28K lol
Another 2 years later, they are at $22K. I have just purchased a 2015 build with 'everything' for $22K @ 56,600 miles. The build with all options, including the high end Bang & Olfsen stereo was $125K when it was ordered in 2014!!
@@rickhills5645 👏👏👏
"Yes I did you sexy beast"
Euro one is the real beast, its a shame the USA one is toned down.
Chip tuned euro ones get torque figures north of 550ftlbs of torque. That = mind boggling. More than a m5 and this car is 200kg lighter than m5. A chip tuned 535d euro would be tons of fun.
Dont forget diesel engines can last much longer than gas engines, so maybe leasing one isnt a good idea but purchasing one will give you your moneys worth vs a 535i for example...
BMW is the best when it comes to fuel efficiency.
Best diesel on the -lanet
glad cooley did this one, would have been a terrible vid if anyone else attempted at it
"Yes, you sexy beast"
In canada the price is close to 90K, if i have that much money I would go for Tesla model S P85+
One thing to say, I find it hard to believe that there is only a 7 mpg difference.
Larry Bartlett Well, over the highway it is not too much of a difference unless you got plenty mountains to climb. Usually they don't test it with real situation, say you went on a long distance trip alone in a EPA test that doesn't add up. we need a partner at least to switch driver or someone to talk to.
+Larry Bartlett Reports from real world owners say it is closer to 11 -- low to mid 30's in the diesel, low 20's on the gas 535. The epa notoriously overstates petrol mpg and understates diesel, so that's no surprise.
biggest change they din't make to the american version of the 5 series is the dials now they are all digital in the new 5 series.
Makes me laugh every time about the death hooks.
Bit late to post this comment but I don’t think there would’ve been any reason why you’d buy a 528i or other petrol/gasoline equivalent. The only reason would be if you wanted a 550i v8 or drive in the city? That’s the only I can think of!!
Interesting!
This specs are for 530xd
Dammit man did you see those gas prices!?
this video's quality represents diesel engines, 720p but 60 fps :')
+MrBrownie2310 video came out before youtube enabled 60fps
Wow who would buy a new car and drive it only for 3 years...
People who enjoy having a new car every 3 years.
Michael Leibowitz For me these people don't know what they want and they're the same in life..
Iliya Beshkov
...OR...they could just be people who enjoy having a new car every 3 years.
I know of a car enthusiasts with lots of money who have and still changes cars every 6 months to a year. There are people who just love cars.
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Hello, is the engine really noisy on these cars since it is diesel???
Well you can baerrly hear it while driving.
localpeople The diesel engines in BMW's sedans are actually really tame, with many cars going with direct injection you really can't tell the difference. With the exception of my 2012 X5 diesel which sounds like a FedEx van making a delivery, but since it's an SUV I think it sounds good.
Thing is, the lease on the 535d should be better than on a 535i.
Half of that 6 in controller is out of focus. It's not an "effect" just the wrong lens.
255hp??? Wtfffff?
My 535xdrive have 313 hp
Why is american Version with only 255?
255 hp? In Europe we get 313hp.
Seriously Cooley shut the hell up about the "death hooks" under the hood. They are there for structural rigidity and it's not BMWs fault if you smack your head on them. lol
What's wrong with americans regulations? In europe 535d has 230kw (313hp) and 630Nm of torque
ITS A BMW AFTER-ALL ITS SUPPOSE TO BE EXPENSIVE ..! :) :)IF YOU LOOKING FOR A CHEEP CAR BUY GOLF OR RENAULT ..!! :) :)
a $1,500 premium over the gas engine ? would anyone think about this ? have you ever bought a new car ? that is the smallest discount you can get on a luxury car like this.
i'm scared for Cooley with hook under the bonnet..
it redlines at 5400 not 5800
wish it had a pano sun roof
Bizde var bu araba
Do people really trade cars in every 2.75 years? If you are getting a diesel, even for the car to be properly run in, you are looking at 10 - 20000 miles!
That's what I was thinking. To trade in this car ih just under three years after you paid that much is a crime. No matter how much money you have.
Nikola Marunić
Why?
Michael Leibowitz Well it's a great car, and it swill still be in three years. Sure a new model might come out but this car will still be amazing. This is not a your $20k chevy that will get outdated in two years, it's a $80-90k car. Who is crazy enough to spend that much money every three years especially if the old car is more than good. I'm sure it will still pull like bastard in 5.6.7 years let alone 3!
Nikola Marunić
Sure...but some people get bored with their cars, and they just want something fresh. The nice thing is that someone else will be able to buy a used $80-90k car for half the price.
People who buy it new probably don't want to deal with costly BMW surprises when warranty expires.
weird in europe the 535d has 313 HP
They have to add a ton of emissions hardware (urea additive, soot traps, etc) for the engine to comply with American emission requirements, which are more strict than Euro 6 standards. All of that added equipment "detunes" the engine, hence the lower HP numbers for the US model.
weird Americans... emissions is better then big 550i en 535i engine...
+sp3c14l1st Its USA war on diesels ,, since their oil companies prefer Americans driving petrol thirsty cars for more profits :)
redline is 5300, not 5800. look again.
+robaksha Redline starts at 5.300, it ends at 5.800. So the real limit is 5.800.
LOL, its has 313hp and 630 Nm / 465 lb·ff in europe x)
You think for 60k, everything should be included.
I`m a BMW fan but for 75k maybe you should consider a Tesla Model S, that car is more awesome even than the 535i. ;)
What's up, I'm Proud Of [ou! dangerous ragged What's your opinion about that, guys !
on bmw site it says it have 313 hp
in europe....
BomaxGaming Yeah, not the same. 530d have been renamed 535d for the american marked. Just like 320d is called 328d in america. Apperently, a higher number is better :D
Johan Littorin no, the 530d:1 turbo, the 535d: 2 turbos, the 550d ( the M-diesel): 3 turbos...
retrolabor. de Might have been true earlier, but not now. Atleast not according to the official bmw site. 530d and 535 both have twin turbo, and m550d have 3 turbos.
Only 255 bhp in US . 313 bhp in EU
why have BMW USA offered less powerful diesels in the US than in Europe, the 535d should produce 313BHP as in the European model,, and we saw the same thing a few years ago with the US spec 335d which produced only 265BHP compared with 282BHP in the European model ?
Because US diesel emission regulations are more stringent than European regulations. The 265-hp 335d can meet US regulations with the urea tank, but the 286-hp Euro-spec 335d cannot. So the 535d has to be detuned to comply.
+Johan Cha but they are fine with buggati veirons 16.4 ??? welcome to america :P
@@FjordTrotter The 535d isnt detuned, its just an upbadged euro 530d.
@@rytiskurcinskas7179 A Veyron isnt powered by diesel
Ok
upgrades cost as much as the car
2014 RANGE ROVER PLEASE
Diesels aren't really made for the US. Here in europe Diesel is alot cheaper and more popular.
its anice ride.. but its usless for mee.. only for wine, resturant, and hotel.. any 1--who like this car.. have good tase!!!
I bet everyone who watches this shows has the address memorized by now.
That's where CNET, his employer, is located.
range rover please!
3:37
I have F30 328i and half of cnet style equipment is unecessary
Some one buy me this car😢
I want the "D"
Mileage is pretty bad for a diesel
+Raul Espinoza its rated down ,, in real world driving you can get that car to do over 60 mpg ,, no joke ,,, on full fuel tank it is possible to do over 1000 miles :)
+Raul Espinoza usa emissions test people hate diesels so they rate it lower ...
$60K base and no LED headlights or backup camera thats insulting
+christian Chichester Well, at least you have Xenon as standard.. And backup camera? Really? Those things are ridiculous.. You just don't need them, unless you can't drive.
BFD15i back ups camera are nice and I don't care if you don't need them its just the fact that a luxury car doesn't include it at the price is stupid
christian Chichester
You call it stupid, I call it wise. Everyone who wants one, can order one. Those few bucks don't hurt. But everyone who doesn't want one, doesn't have to pay for one.
Or do you really think, that BMW (or Mercedes or Audi) would install stuff like that and won't change the pricetag?
BFD15i its just embarrassing that they don't include it, all hondas come with a backup camera
christian Chichester
That's personal preferences, I guess. For me, I really don't care.
On the other hand, the european model has even less standard-options than the US-model. Maybe that's why I'm used to pay extra for every little gizmo..
Still can't beat Audi's TDI engine.
Actually you will find most Audi tdi engines are pulled right out of a golf. And they really are not as refined as the BMW's
BMW kicked their a$$.
Gentlemen, have none of you seen what that TDI engine did at Le Mans? Seriously.
RickyTomatoes
lmfao, seriously? Le Mans?
vincentas Go on...let's hear what's so funny.
What's insulting is a car reviewer who can't back up his car, lol.
Way to hide @ 5:55
Daniel Costello what...?
That is not a 535d xdrive.
The real 535d x drive has 313hp and 0- 100kp/h in 5s not 5,8. Wtf cnet....
Here is the proof...
www.bmw.de/de/neufahrzeuge/5er/limousine/2013/technische-daten.html
Interesting....
That's in Germany. In the US, BMW does "badge upgrades" to squeeze out more money. Look up 530d.
Would rather have a Tesla S.
I'd rather have a bike over a Tesla.
OmgSteveJobs
I own a bicycle, and have driven many cars that are not mine, because I work at a VERY busy high-end body shop. and the Tesla S is the only luxury 4 door sedan, I would ever consider owning. and I've driven and worked on every luxury car made.
>Get on my Level
***** Overpriced Prius.
Solid review but I would take a MB or Audi over anything bmw makes!