Never had an engineer’s perspective. Good to see that. What was the first review did with those gap measurements? Also you should try out the 2025 GV80 too. Waiting for that review.
...And the only problem I have with German cars is they have the best driving dynamics, are built like tanks and usually have slightly thicker gauge metal panels/thicker paint and more sound deadening material, superb sound systems..and drive flawlessly when new! Buuuuut, unless you're more than a 6 figure earner and do not care what the maintenance and parts cost, and money is not an issue... those cars will break the bank after 4 - 6 yrs of ownership. Still great cars though!
New ones aren’t built like a tank. Not a single BMW could last in the shithole i reside in. Nor a single American or korean car for that matter either. The japanese are leagues and bounds more durable than others, it’s not even worth making any comparisons.
@@zhila5958 False, simply false. they are far less durable on torture roads... they use CHEAP materials that are cheap to replace.... if that id your definition of durable, so be it. The Japanese don't build tanks.
Not a big fan of this trend where manufacturers put basic functionality like temperature control in the infotainment panel instead of having physical controls in the console.
David, how did you find the dual screens in the BMW with regards to reflection/glare? I like the Genesis because the gauge cluster has (traditional) cowling around it, whereas the BMW's has zero cowling. Thanks very much for another great video!
Greatest review format on TH-cam. This guy actually cares about engineering quality and build qualyunlike some pthers that ramble about "steering feel"
David, thank you for another great detailed and road driving review. Going with the Genesis for the incredible interior and smooth ride. After my personal experience with BMW, I would choose the reliability of the Genesis.
Just concise, informative and real excellent comments in terms of reliability and easiness to understand. About to decide which SUV to buy after return my company car due to my recent retirement. Genesis GV 80 Coupe( with 48w electric motor; mild hybrid ) facelift model 3.5 Twin Turbo vs. BMW X5 Hybrid( which has been my favorite SUV all the time). Dear David, plaese make some clips regarding the new Genesis GV80 Coupe mild hybrid, which heard to be come to USA in a month or so. Thanks and kust Two Thumbs Up!!!
Hi David, No doubt in my mind the genesis GV 80… like I have said before many many times, German cars are not reliable and dependable in my opinion… The GV is much more capable as a better fit and finish on the inside and outside and has an overall better ride… In my opinion❤
Genesis drives me bananas. They make gorgeous cars then expect mb and bmw owners to go buy their cars from hyundai sales reps in a new polo and service their cars with hyundai service. I think it might be the most horrendous dealership experience(s) i’ve ever had.
I have a BMW X5 and I love it. I do like the look of the GV80 but worry about losing my sporty aggressive characteristics of the Bimmer. Plus, I’ve been in BMW and Mercedes products so long, is a Hyundai right for me? IDK? More for my money, but I’m hearing bad things. Decisions decisions…
I traded my 2020 rx for a 22 x5 and i have no regrets such an improvement overall, better ride, better tech, top notch quality and overall better pride of ownership. My first BMW and probably not my last
Thank you, David San. Can I request you measure the paint on the front bumper as thats usually where most stone chips occur. Also could you possibly get a sound meter to measure the interior decibels?
David, will you comment on the thinking behind a function such as adjusting the HVAC controls within the monitor what was the engineering that designed this feature?
I could not get past the ugly and staid sterling wheel on the GV 80 - it’s awful- so I went with the X5 40i which delivered in December. Genesis finally fixed that on the 2025. Both good looking inside and out, I just slightly preferred the BMW, which also has the better engine. Also, Genesis and its dealers are not proven as a luxury brand, so I’d expect to see some sort of financial break from buying one, but there isn’t one. This is such a competitive segment with a lot of great choices. Love the X5 so far.
Good, quality perspective on these vehicles. I love the BMW motor and driving feel however question reliability and maintenance; especially since I usually purchase pre owned. That is my only hesitation with purchasing a bmw. The Genesis in my opinion is a bit more luxurious and I have less anxiety purchasing than the X5.
You forgot one thing about the BMW is that when you are driving you can voice command it to lower or increase temperature, you don’t need to fumble with the screen
As a German I always thought that the German cars are over engineered but they have a much better ride quality than any Japanese car. However the Asian cars have a higher quality in terms of longevity. As an example. The 3.0 l 6 cylinder in the Audi Q7 has 3 turbochargers. 2 normal and 1 electric, which uses 48 volts and can spin from 0 to 170000 rpm in 0.2 sec. They get a 3 mpg better gas milage than Toyota. Guess what brakes first. Toyota puts in a 4.0 l six or eight cylinder that is normally aspirated and uses regular gasoline. It has less horsepower and the gas mileage is worse but the engine lasts forever.
Drove them both. BMW is the king of this market. You can measure all you want, but it outruns, out handles, and outclasses everything else in this class, esp a freaking Hyundai which only puts lipstick on a pig. The B58 engine is a legend. BMW is, and always has been, built for drivers. Genesis is built for riders.
@@shane6115 for one . The pistons rings do not last more then 50k miles without the car burning and wasting through tons of oil , number 2 they have timing chains issues especially with the gv70 number 3 the oil pump assembly’s come damaged from factory because of faulty electronics which causes it to overheat . Number 5 the esc controller the idle / stop tend to fail . Number 6 the brake boosters from factory sometimes come stripped ? How is this possible? Number 7 they have faulty connected rod bearings that seize up the motor , I mean should I keep going or?
But why would you compare it with a BMW?, instead of a Infiniti, Lexus even the cheesy Cadillac.the BMW really has too much quality and class to be that copycat company! So please stop it!
Never had an engineer’s perspective. Good to see that. What was the first review did with those gap measurements? Also you should try out the 2025 GV80 too. Waiting for that review.
...And the only problem I have with German cars is they have the best driving dynamics, are built like tanks and usually have slightly thicker gauge metal panels/thicker paint and more sound deadening material, superb sound systems..and drive flawlessly when new! Buuuuut, unless you're more than a 6 figure earner and do not care what the maintenance and parts cost, and money is not an issue... those cars will break the bank after 4 - 6 yrs of ownership. Still great cars though!
New ones aren’t built like a tank. Not a single BMW could last in the shithole i reside in. Nor a single American or korean car for that matter either.
The japanese are leagues and bounds more durable than others, it’s not even worth making any comparisons.
@@dgdave2673 ..that's my POINT!
@@zhila5958 False, simply false. they are far less durable on torture roads... they use CHEAP materials that are cheap to replace.... if that id your definition of durable, so be it. The Japanese don't build tanks.
Not a big fan of this trend where manufacturers put basic functionality like temperature control in the infotainment panel instead of having physical controls in the console.
David, how did you find the dual screens in the BMW with regards to reflection/glare? I like the Genesis because the gauge cluster has (traditional) cowling around it, whereas the BMW's has zero cowling. Thanks very much for another great video!
Great video as always and learned a lot while I enjoyed it!!, Thx🙏👌👍
Greatest review format on TH-cam. This guy actually cares about engineering quality and build qualyunlike some pthers that ramble about "steering feel"
David, thank you for another great detailed and road driving review. Going with the Genesis for the incredible interior and smooth ride. After my personal experience with BMW, I would choose the reliability of the Genesis.
I'm thinking about GV80 myself
Looked at both 6 months ago and bought the GV80. no regrets and i still love it.
@@AdvantagersRSthank you. This is helping me make my decision.
GREAT comparison review. Thanks for going to the effort of doing this review, with your engineering background.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just concise, informative and real excellent comments in terms of reliability and easiness to understand. About to decide which SUV to buy after return my company car due to my recent retirement. Genesis GV 80 Coupe( with 48w electric motor; mild hybrid ) facelift model 3.5 Twin Turbo vs. BMW X5 Hybrid( which has been my favorite SUV all the time). Dear David, plaese make some clips regarding the new Genesis GV80 Coupe mild hybrid, which heard to be come to USA in a month or so. Thanks and kust Two Thumbs Up!!!
Thanks for your review.
Absolutely wonderful video as usual! Could you look into comparing luxury SUV coupes?
I like the “Auto” climate setting on BMW HVAC and seats, works much like the same feature on my Land Cruiser 200!
Hi David,
No doubt in my mind the genesis GV 80… like I have said before many many times, German cars are not reliable and dependable in my opinion… The GV is much more capable as a better fit and finish on the inside and outside and has an overall better ride… In my opinion❤
I’m European 🇪🇺 and have to say that the best vehicle come out of Asia.
The cheapest cars come out of Asia
Genesis drives me bananas. They make gorgeous cars then expect mb and bmw owners to go buy their cars from hyundai sales reps in a new polo and service their cars with hyundai service. I think it might be the most horrendous dealership experience(s) i’ve ever had.
You see similar comments all over.
I bought my Genesis GV 80’from Larry Miller
In Peoria, AZ and was beyond pleased with the sales experience and the vehicle.
I have a BMW X5 and I love it. I do like the look of the GV80 but worry about losing my sporty aggressive characteristics of the Bimmer. Plus, I’ve been in BMW and Mercedes products so long, is a Hyundai right for me? IDK? More for my money, but I’m hearing bad things. Decisions decisions…
I traded my 2020 rx for a 22 x5 and i have no regrets such an improvement overall, better ride, better tech, top notch quality and overall better pride of ownership. My first BMW and probably not my last
Thank you, David San. Can I request you measure the paint on the front bumper as thats usually where most stone chips occur. Also could you possibly get a sound meter to measure the interior decibels?
Good video - Thank you.
David, will you comment on the thinking behind a function such as adjusting the HVAC controls within the monitor what was the engineering that designed this feature?
I could not get past the ugly and staid sterling wheel on the GV 80 - it’s awful- so I went with the X5 40i which delivered in December. Genesis finally fixed that on the 2025. Both good looking inside and out, I just slightly preferred the BMW, which also has the better engine. Also, Genesis and its dealers are not proven as a luxury brand, so I’d expect to see some sort of financial break from buying one, but there isn’t one. This is such a competitive segment with a lot of great choices. Love the X5 so far.
Great review. How would you rate the Mercedes GLE450 as compared to the GV80 / X5?
mechanical quality, materials and fit and finish for the suspension, frame, brakes, everything... is clearly superior on the BMW.
Great show David 👏👏👏
Always great reviews.
The Genesis is superior merely for the fact that both the maintenance and repair is remarkably cheap then a German car/suv...
You win. BMW kill you with maintenance. Never again
When you are on a tight budget, you buy a cheaper car.
Been watching your videos….getting ready to buy a new vehicle…Lexus TX 550H+ of BMW X5 x drive 50e both around the same money what would you buy?
The BMW is more fun to drive but the TX is more reliable... it depends on how long you want to keep the cars
Good, quality perspective on these vehicles. I love the BMW motor and driving feel however question reliability and maintenance; especially since I usually purchase pre owned. That is my only hesitation with purchasing a bmw. The Genesis in my opinion is a bit more luxurious and I have less anxiety purchasing than the X5.
great job - but I had too many problems with X3
You forgot one thing about the BMW is that when you are driving you can voice command it to lower or increase temperature, you don’t need to fumble with the screen
Very nice review.
Great analysis and presentation! Your conclusion is spot on…performance enthusiasts should opt for the X5.
David, When will Lexus offer a RWD CUV to compete with these? 🤔
Probably never lol! They're too miserly to do it.
As a German I always thought that the German cars are over engineered but they have a much better ride quality than any Japanese car. However the Asian cars have a higher quality in terms of longevity. As an example. The 3.0 l 6 cylinder in the Audi Q7 has 3 turbochargers. 2 normal and 1 electric, which uses 48 volts and can spin from 0 to 170000 rpm in 0.2 sec. They get a 3 mpg better gas milage than Toyota. Guess what brakes first. Toyota puts in a 4.0 l six or eight cylinder that is normally aspirated and uses regular gasoline. It has less horsepower and the gas mileage is worse but the engine lasts forever.
the matte paint looks nicer
So you're saying the Genesis drives really well over perfectly smooth roads😂
Always preferred the nob to touchscreen.
Seriously why they have these big screens which look ridiculous and make things more complicated
How about the Audi Q8? Compared to the X5 and GV80
Great review as always from David.
For me, as a consumer, the GV80 looks and drive better. The X5 is good though
BMW X5 is not all new for 2024. Current gen came out in 2018 for 2019 model year.
Anyone who is impressed with GV80 should visit their service department. Hyundai service is the worst.
Paint comparison is not apples to apples!
The paint will last but the rest of the car will fall apart and its resale value will go down to nothing after the warranty is over.
Have a 2022 GV80 2.5 and I wouldn’t trade it for the BMW.You can’t beat the Genesis 100k mile warranty
Why not get the 3.5? Was it price difference that made you go 2.5?
100k warranty is worthless, the worse cars made will go 100k... not a buying point
The X5 can be controlled through voice control in addition or instead of the touch pad.
The 2025 GV80 will use a large screen similar to what’s in the X5.
rotary gear selector is a mistake
German car is best
With same price range i would go for BMW interior and exterior
BMW, all day long. No contest.
No savings either
Drove them both. BMW is the king of this market. You can measure all you want, but it outruns, out handles, and outclasses everything else in this class, esp a freaking Hyundai which only puts lipstick on a pig. The B58 engine is a legend. BMW is, and always has been, built for drivers. Genesis is built for riders.
If send my kids to college than use that money servicing a bmw
German car or Korean car ? As a mechanic please people never buy Korean cars please the powertrains are junk .
What exactly is the problem with Korean power trains?
Can you please elaborate?
@@ramgameryhe can’t.
@@shane6115 for one . The pistons rings do not last more then 50k miles without the car burning and wasting through tons of oil , number 2 they have timing chains issues especially with the gv70 number 3 the oil pump assembly’s come damaged from factory because of faulty electronics which causes it to overheat . Number 5 the esc controller the idle / stop tend to fail . Number 6 the brake boosters from factory sometimes come stripped ? How is this possible? Number 7 they have faulty connected rod bearings that seize up the motor , I mean should I keep going or?
@@shane6115 should I list you more issues ?
@@shane6115 maybe I should thank Hyundai for bringing me so much service 🤣 shall I list the problems with the Hyundai ionic too?
BMW is not made in Germany. It’s made in the USA and it will fall apart after the warranty period.
You mean during the warranty? the X7 were notorious for falling part during the warranty according to some folks
111 q@@zhila5958
Like all fords, chevys, dodges? Sit down goofy
You must be a racer driver. Rag any car out and it has problems.
X5 no doubt
Genesis GV80 is much better than BMW
No, it’s just cheaper…..for a reason.
But why would you compare it with a BMW?, instead of a Infiniti, Lexus even the cheesy Cadillac.the BMW really has too much quality and class to be that copycat company! So please stop it!
................................... Both are Un-Dependable and LOSS of money Depreciation 3 years 40 to 50K ...NIGHTMARES