That was good. Another great video. This event is on my list for next year. I’m planning a few ‘learner’ events this year so it’s good to have some insight on kit. 👍
surprisingly little kit for a big adventure. I guess every gram you add really multiplies itself over 1000km distance! What did you do with the clothes you were wearing? leave in a bag at the start line?
Yeah Ive taken too much over and over and trimmed down over time, probably could have had more clothes maybe but hey ho you can't cary everything. yeah they allow a drop bag thankfully
Great overview of gear. Sorry about the block you hit on the ride, no shame in bailing from that weather and road condition. Rain=bad but rain, massive hills, distance and blocked roads as part of a very long ride is a massive challenge. Fig rolls! Nice choice and I go for date and peanut bars on my longer rides, I have to munch through them but like to think the dates are good for sugar and no harm in some peanut protein. I have the same rear light, but my exposure front joystick is now 14 years old and still going strong.
@@theroadprovides It surprised me that they are in home country of Sussex. Took a while for the smaller gear to get USB C but they are all sorted on that front now. Hunt wheels are also down here and doing well to.
Watched both videos mate - well done for riding as far as you did - tough weekend! After "gravel riding in the sun" myself earlier this year I came away from that damaging the casing on my Garmin, bodged it together with a zip tyre. Anyways, during the audax of the same weekend as APN the rain got inside the case and destroyed it leaving me no choice but to navigate most of the Sunday back to Sheffield by phone/RideWithGPS and audio cues. It was certainly a wet wet wet Sunday that's for sure - good luck later this year =)
This might be a stupid question but do you absolutely need a cover for a Garmin/Wahoo GPS in the pouring rain especially for longer distances where you need to recharge it and the charging port is exposed?
That structure you are under is a total trip. Imagine whoever put that up, trying to keep it from falling over before they got it all bolted together. lol.
Hey Andy! Greetings from California's North coast. What do you think led to your DNF in this event? Route? Planning? Packing? Weather? Either way doing better than 99% of us.
Hello mate, I think the biggest issue was headspace going into the event. It was pretty brutal and lots of factors made it really tough. But I think looking back if I was better mentally I could have finished, even if really late, thanks for watching :)
how da hell u manage to get all of that stuff in such small bag. thats an extra skill. I see u are using regular tubes. i´ve been using RideNoiw TPU tubes for over an year with no problem. you might save some space for extra goodies :)
I'm not familiar with the Mason brand. I know Josh ibbett rides one and is sponsored by them. Why have you chosen that Brand? Is it lighter than say the Specialised Crux gravel? Is it more suited to bikepacking ultra distance, eg. slacker geometry, more lugs for attatching bags etc? Also, knowing the result, could you have taken anything else that would have kept you warm? My biggest worry re Panceltic is getting cold. Apparently it is best to stop riding and get into a bivvy bag, or shelter before you start to feel cold, because once you're cold getting in the bivvy won't make you warm!
Hey, I’m thinking of getting an extra down coat for the tcr but it’s just the extra size really. The mason I bought as they build bikes for adventures and ultra, Josh won the tcr on one and they’re ideal for ultra. Plus, they’re based near me and I can go over and test ride them 😁
Hi Andy what a great insight. Can you tell what is the equvelent bike in TREK to yours. Iam asking cus I live in Country we have TREK as cycle brand with high quality. I have road bike but it is going to be hell if I ride it for 50 miles.
That was interesting, Andy. I've never done that kind of long ride/race, so interesting to see what you took. It seems that there nothing extra you could have taken that would have helped you continue, or even finish...you think?
Nice the power of editing 😂. Jinxed yourself with the fingers crossed I guess. Sorry hope that doesn’t sound you put up with a hell of a lot more than I would have I know that
Hi Andy, I've got the same Ortlieb seat pack as you and I'm intrigued by the cargo net, is that the Topeak net? Also, how do you secure it to the pack so nothing escapes? Thanks.
Hey, it is yea, has hooks a ok wraps right around and hooks onto the clips of the seat pack, what they go back and clip in toward the seat post if you know what I mean?
@@theroadprovides thanks for the reply, that's great. By the way bad luck on the race, I can definitely sympathise after running myself into the ground and scratching on the Wild West Country.
@@theroadprovides Thanks Andy. You will get the benefit of the lower weight frame. Do you find the aluminium frame to be comfortable over long distances?
It’s pretty unlikely, when you are riding big miles and long days it’s pretty much impossible to take in as much carbs every hour as that. It’s hard to carry enough sports nutrition for a long event across multiple days and most “normal” food is substantially lower in carbs for a much larger volume of food. You’d need at least 4 supermarket muesli bars an hour to get the level of carbs you are suggesting, and if you are riding for 16 hours of the day that’s 64 bars a day! Also most of this type of riding is done at zone 1 and 2 intensity, where your body is primarily using fat for fuel and not so much carbs
Hey, I'm working through nutrition at the moment. I am consistent but have been at 40g per hour, I'm testing 60g per hour right now and in contact with a brand to help with that, so watch this space :)
@@theroadprovides the easiest way for me is always in the bottles, with carb mix products these days like SIS Beta Fuel or Styrkr Mix 90 you can get 80-90g of carbs in a single bottle. However the sachets are also quite big and bulky when you have a few of them, so it’s not easy to carry more than about half a dozen on an event without resorting to extra baggage. In recent times I’ve got over this by switching to pure sugar in the bottles, which is readily available from every cafe and most shops, often for free! If you work out the carbs you do actually need quite a lot of spoonfuls of sugar per bottle though. I’ll often add an electrolyte tablet to the bottle for flavour and the salt balances the sweetness of the sugar pretty well
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This is the perfect sport for introverts, that's why I love it 😀👍
That was good. Another great video. This event is on my list for next year. I’m planning a few ‘learner’ events this year so it’s good to have some insight on kit. 👍
Cool, its a great event mate, the north of England is stunning
Hi Andy, that’s great thank you so much…
surprisingly little kit for a big adventure. I guess every gram you add really multiplies itself over 1000km distance! What did you do with the clothes you were wearing? leave in a bag at the start line?
Yeah Ive taken too much over and over and trimmed down over time, probably could have had more clothes maybe but hey ho you can't cary everything. yeah they allow a drop bag thankfully
Thanks Andy.
Great overview of gear. Sorry about the block you hit on the ride, no shame in bailing from that weather and road condition. Rain=bad but rain, massive hills, distance and blocked roads as part of a very long ride is a massive challenge. Fig rolls! Nice choice and I go for date and peanut bars on my longer rides, I have to munch through them but like to think the dates are good for sugar and no harm in some peanut protein. I have the same rear light, but my exposure front joystick is now 14 years old and still going strong.
Exposure gear is so good :)
@@theroadprovides It surprised me that they are in home country of Sussex. Took a while for the smaller gear to get USB C but they are all sorted on that front now. Hunt wheels are also down here and doing well to.
great & useful video sir.
Question - ever thought of a tailfin rack, realise it can effect the weight distribution. ?
hey, I'm not sold on it myself, the seat pack works quite well for me
Watched both videos mate - well done for riding as far as you did - tough weekend! After "gravel riding in the sun" myself earlier this year I came away from that damaging the casing on my Garmin, bodged it together with a zip tyre. Anyways, during the audax of the same weekend as APN the rain got inside the case and destroyed it leaving me no choice but to navigate most of the Sunday back to Sheffield by phone/RideWithGPS and audio cues.
It was certainly a wet wet wet Sunday that's for sure - good luck later this year =)
This might be a stupid question but do you absolutely need a cover for a Garmin/Wahoo GPS in the pouring rain especially for longer distances where you need to recharge it and the charging port is exposed?
good to see you there bud, it sounds like you had a very similar time to me. Good training I suppose :) I have never seen so much water in the roads
That structure you are under is a total trip. Imagine whoever put that up, trying to keep it from falling over before they got it all bolted together. lol.
+ without using a 'bubble level' ! Haha
Hey Andy! Greetings from California's North coast. What do you think led to your DNF in this event? Route? Planning? Packing? Weather? Either way doing better than 99% of us.
Route Plan: 10%
Weather: 90%
Hello mate, I think the biggest issue was headspace going into the event. It was pretty brutal and lots of factors made it really tough. But I think looking back if I was better mentally I could have finished, even if really late, thanks for watching :)
how da hell u manage to get all of that stuff in such small bag. thats an extra skill. I see u are using regular tubes. i´ve been using RideNoiw TPU tubes for over an year with no problem. you might save some space for extra goodies :)
It’s a challenge for sure but had to fit somehow 🤣 it’s all necessary stuff so I can make it happen
I'm not familiar with the Mason brand. I know Josh ibbett rides one and is sponsored by them.
Why have you chosen that Brand? Is it lighter than say the Specialised Crux gravel? Is it more suited to bikepacking ultra distance, eg. slacker geometry, more lugs for attatching bags etc?
Also, knowing the result, could you have taken anything else that would have kept you warm?
My biggest worry re Panceltic is getting cold. Apparently it is best to stop riding and get into a bivvy bag, or shelter before you start to feel cold, because once you're cold getting in the bivvy won't make you warm!
Hey, I’m thinking of getting an extra down coat for the tcr but it’s just the extra size really. The mason I bought as they build bikes for adventures and ultra, Josh won the tcr on one and they’re ideal for ultra. Plus, they’re based near me and I can go over and test ride them 😁
Hi Andy what a great insight. Can you tell what is the equvelent bike in TREK to yours. Iam asking cus I live in Country we have TREK as cycle brand with high quality. I have road bike but it is going to be hell if I ride it for 50 miles.
Hey, I’m not 100% actually I don’t know the Trek range but my bike is an endurance bike so best to look for their endurance frame :)
That was interesting, Andy. I've never done that kind of long ride/race, so interesting to see what you took. It seems that there nothing extra you could have taken that would have helped you continue, or even finish...you think?
no not really mate, just a better headspace really, that would have helped
cool bike dad
Nice the power of editing 😂. Jinxed yourself with the fingers crossed I guess. Sorry hope that doesn’t sound you put up with a hell of a lot more than I would have I know that
No worries I know what you mean :)
Hi Andy, I've got the same Ortlieb seat pack as you and I'm intrigued by the cargo net, is that the Topeak net? Also, how do you secure it to the pack so nothing escapes? Thanks.
Hey, it is yea, has hooks a ok wraps right around and hooks onto the clips of the seat pack, what they go back and clip in toward the seat post if you know what I mean?
@@theroadprovides thanks for the reply, that's great.
By the way bad luck on the race, I can definitely sympathise after running myself into the ground and scratching on the Wild West Country.
Sorry to hear that mate, hopefully you’re not too bothered by it 👍
you’ll only need the di2 charger if you don’t bring it!
Better remember it for the tcr then 🤣
Hi Andy - bike question please - why did you opt for the Definition over the Resolution, and how do you find the Definition for long-distance comfort?
Hey, I never tried the resolution but the definition is built for the kind of riding I did so just bought based on Josh Ibbett and the spec really
@@theroadprovides Thanks Andy. You will get the benefit of the lower weight frame. Do you find the aluminium frame to be comfortable over long distances?
Yeah so far so good, it’s very comfy. I’m only considering changing for next year to a gravel frameset for different kind of adventures
Interesting to see what you take for that kind of ride Andy, how warm is the sleeping bag and how much weight does that all add to the bike ?
Hey, it's great in summer weather UK wise, it's light too. I'm not sure on the weight but its a alpkit hunk xl and a snugpak jungle bag
Hi Andy, great video! What about food? Do you concentrate on trying to do 90 g or 120 g of carbs per hour?
It’s pretty unlikely, when you are riding big miles and long days it’s pretty much impossible to take in as much carbs every hour as that. It’s hard to carry enough sports nutrition for a long event across multiple days and most “normal” food is substantially lower in carbs for a much larger volume of food. You’d need at least 4 supermarket muesli bars an hour to get the level of carbs you are suggesting, and if you are riding for 16 hours of the day that’s 64 bars a day!
Also most of this type of riding is done at zone 1 and 2 intensity, where your body is primarily using fat for fuel and not so much carbs
Music distracted from your narration.
Hey, I'm working through nutrition at the moment. I am consistent but have been at 40g per hour, I'm testing 60g per hour right now and in contact with a brand to help with that, so watch this space :)
@@theroadprovides the easiest way for me is always in the bottles, with carb mix products these days like SIS Beta Fuel or Styrkr Mix 90 you can get 80-90g of carbs in a single bottle.
However the sachets are also quite big and bulky when you have a few of them, so it’s not easy to carry more than about half a dozen on an event without resorting to extra baggage.
In recent times I’ve got over this by switching to pure sugar in the bottles, which is readily available from every cafe and most shops, often for free! If you work out the carbs you do actually need quite a lot of spoonfuls of sugar per bottle though. I’ll often add an electrolyte tablet to the bottle for flavour and the salt balances the sweetness of the sugar pretty well
I always take a rain coat and some lube when I’m away from home for a few days. Can never be to safe
ah yes, they are there but were attached to the bike still