He was actually shocked that the pawn move in a drawing position. Because it's a move no one would think to play and was unnecessary. One out of only two moves that were not losing.
@@cooloutac nope, that’s your estimate of the situation and besides; making 1 of 2 moves that eventually won’t lose the game is pretty much the general situation in games at this level from move 5 already anyway. The fact that Kramnik completely miscalculated the danger level of that unpleasant zwischenzug shows an arrogant sloppy carelessness. The pawn is right there; 2 squares away, if it moves ahead it’s practically a free move as long as no immediate checkmates are threatening
@FenceThis my estimate? I'm terrible at chess I simply used the stock fish engine to analyze the position. Lol. So openings are different for them for move five then everybody else? Stop it lol. The more obvious move is kight checks H3. The kid decided to go for a flag and whether he did it for the content or did it because he's cheating is impossible to know. either way he probably wouldn't have done it against Hikaru or Magnus, and wouldn't have done it if he wasn't a streamer. it's simply very suspicious. The most suspicious of all was how he was acting with his audience as if he wasn't going to make those moves. As if he was confused about the queen G4 move but deadpanned on the D4 move. Very weird.
@@cooloutac going for a flag is fine - part of the game, and Kramnik should be prepared and upfront at the situation. He’d tried the chance against anyone including Hikaru and Magnus, just as they’d do the same, happens all the time.
This kid has been grinding over the years on lichess streams, doing blindfold training, puzzle solving sessions, etc. Kramnik just cannot stomach the idea that the kids these days have access to so much high quality training materials and tools that they are simply better than he is at this point, especially at blitz.
Kramnik is 50x the. Player this kid will ever be , this teenager has a 0.001 percent chance of becoming a world champion and kramnik has a 100 percent chance at the same feat
@@ethantodd3558 You've got to be out of your mind. Perhaps the kid has no chance of becoming world champion, I'll give you that. That's because a lot of teenagers nowadays have access to the same training resources and a lot of those teenagers are really skilled. But Kramnik having a 100% chance at becoming the world champion? :)) Kramnik - whilst a really good player for his time - became world champion for the sole reason that Kasparov got stubborn and wanted to prove that he can tear down the Berlin wall. What are you talking about? Nowadays Kramnik stands no chance at the world champion title. Kasparov himself (keeping in mind who's the competition) has no chance to that title nowadays. But all of this doesn't even matter. The fact of the matter is that Kramnik got so obtuse he's unable to admit defeat. In his mind he's only defeatable by machines.
In February 2020 , at the age 9 years and 11 months, Tykhon Cherniaiev became a Champion of Ukraine in Blitz at the Ukraine Chess Championship 2020, boys - U20. He is the world and European champion Blitz,Rapid - U10, U12. Pure talent.
It's really weird, all these default avatar accounts hard defending Kramnik, like Kramnik wasn't accusing Hikaru of cheating a while ago. Very strange.
Any strong player who understands d4 after It was played, realizes It never crossed his Mind and why that is, Will react exactly the same as kramnik did
I don't think he ever said it's impossible to find for a human player he said it's just an unlikely and amazing move. If the roles were reversed I bet that kid would have fell for the Trap and took with pawn instead of the knight. But for me as a beginner Noob it just seems to me as the more unlikely move out of the only two that were not losing moves, because I think most people would not try to flag in that drawing position because it's more likely they would lose to a super GM and hurt their tournament chances. But for a streamer taking a chance against kramnik is much more profitable for them and at this point it seems like the fashionable thing to do. Cheetahs also know the website does not take his complaints seriously like they do with Hikaru or Magnus for example. They have shown they are very vindictive website and don't like criticisms against them even from Fabiano.
You can’t win all the time regardless of age. Besides, you’re talking from a completely different standpoint. You have no chess career behind you nor have you ever been a world champ. You’re just sitting there having opinions.
@saaddidouz7357 he's also beat dubov in tt. Levon aronian. He was rated 3000 lol. The guy literally came third behind Magnus and Hikaru in the world Blitz championships of 2020. Most of these kids that own him online wouldn't even finish top 40, that the claim it's because of better Mouse movement is just hilarious.
@@cooloutac ok, and Rafael Vaganian was second in World Blitz Championship 1988, but this doesn't mean he's still got the power of crushing everyone...
he loses so often getting outplayed with barely any reasonable fighting chance against random FMs.. but can play very competitive games against even the most elite GMs..?!! make it make sense plz.. cuz it's clear you don't watch how his matches against other GMs in TT go.. the way those go.. you'd think Fabi, Levon and others are all washed and overrated..
Kramnik thinking someone is cheating because they’re “playing too quickly” (pre-moving) when real cheaters take 10-20 seconds consistently because they have to switch over to their engine and input moves is pure comedy
that's not true, the kid was not cheating imo, and Kramnik is uterlly paranoid. But your comment is simply not true, I assume it is just ignorance though. Cause not knowing that you can literally cheat in so many different ways, including straight up without even touching the mouse in a bullet game seems just like a lack of information.
Because only 4% of titled players are stupid enough to even play in this tournament. You would have to be naive and crazy to take it seriously. Because the CEO has already told Perpetual Chess Podcast last week he can't get any sponsorhips to host tournaments. People would rather watch their favorite streamer smurf and sandbag on low rated players for entertainment and that is the culture that was created by a corrupt website exploiting kids and anonymity. For Kramnik it was his career and is his life's passion and he is simply trying to save what you already destroyed. The problem is online gaming companies never actually ban anyone. The only people who should not be allowed in this tournament or those players who fall into such suspicions and have never proved such performances in more secure environments to earn the chance to win money from career professionals imo.
@cooloutac I really dont get this 4% argument at all. How is 4% out of literally every titled player in the world a small number? For a single tournament held two times every week isnt that substantial? Also among the regular stupid participants you can find the best players in the world. Magnus, Hikaru, Fabi and Alireza literally all played in the most recent one
@@Noname-nk5kv so you don't think its strange at all? 96% of active titled players don't play in the tournament not even for fun? it sure as hell is weird to me buddy, but the answer to the question of why is not. The answer is extremely obvious.
Jokes aside, I'm actually wondering how this is handled by the Swiss system. If you're performing well and supposed to play against the top player but you've blocked him, and maybe you've also blocked everyone in the top 20, you'll play against player 21? This seems unfair (for the others). Are blocked players really blocked during tournaments?
@@joshjac81010 to kids who come from a cheating culture of manipulating ratings they think you could just manipulate anything it's insane. Didn't even cross his mind how unsporting that would be if the website was to allow it smh....
@joshjac81010 these kids are so indoctrinated by a cheating culture they think someone can manipulate tournaments like that and it blows my mind. They talk as if it's allowed and acceptable. Lol
@@joshjac81010 kids today where cheating is so common, Believe you can manipulate results in so many sorts of ways and they think its literally allowed. Such a shame.
I feel sorry for Vladimir. Though a strong grandmaster he's having trouble ageing gracefully. The fact that there are some cheaters definately doesn't help his level of paranoia. Also Vlad is impaling himself with a NOCEBO effect where he spends his time questioning his opponent instead endeavouring to play his best.
Whats becoming obvious to me. IS that players like HIkaru, Magnus are the only guys now who get taken seriously by the website so noone cheats against them. Even Wesley So once accused Tigran Petrosian of looking down on camera and cheating on social media, who eventually admitted it and got banned. But now noone is allowed to say anything? The websites just censor everyone? Very strange, although this has been the problem as to why e-sports have not been popular for 30 years. The feeling of unatural matchups or gameplays along with the anonymity is just too much for society to respect. No safeguards at all. 0. I figured that because chess is the only one that is played the same in both digital and physical worlds they would be the one to change things. Start to apply at least the same sporting principles we apply in real life. But I feel it is too much lord of the flies and the organizations are exploiting these kids not caring how corrupt they are making them.
Looks to me like he's having the time of his life playing online. But as more and more players make accounts online less and less people are becoming fans of the game. The CEO of the website himself says it's not marketable he can't get any sponsorships and he's probably going to bail out in 5 years.
@@redscar183 Actually Vishy Anand has always talked about how Kasparov wouldn't even talk to him. But Kramnik was always very sociable and friendly with him even after Vishy would beat him. He says Kasparov is the type of guy that likes to keep his potential competitors at a distance not to lose his killer instinct against them, But Kramnik was never like that. this is coming from Vishy Anand my friend. Literally the only "nice" world champion besides Capablanca in all of Chess history. Add Kramnik to the list of those 3. You are talking about a guy that ran Chess Camps in India when asked buddy. Someone who actually still follows their careers. Kasparov also once said though, that to be a world champion you can't be a pushover. And no competitive player likes losing. Even Vishy Anand totally snapped, even scaring Magnus once, at a press conference when he lost the WCC to him. banged on the table, yelled at a reporter then stormed out. It is called being Human. But guys like Kramnik and Vishy don't hold grudges and are able to get over it. Unlike alot of players.
Tykhon is seriously good and he has gotten better incredibly fast. I played him on Lichess when he was 9 or something. The kid beat me like 3-1. Kid also streams frequently and shared his thought process, so he is the real deal. Not surprised that he pushed Kramnik’s button, especially when he’s spiralling downwards.
@detherocablest7054 thanks for confirmong online chess is only taken seriously by children. No wonder Erik allebest complained to Perpetual podcast a few weeks ago that he can't even get any sponsorships to host tournaments. He said online chess is not marketable and imo this community is an example of why.
it can't be ruled out the other guy cheated. but why is d4 such an impossible move? I'm like 1900 and I think in a classical game I could (on a sunny day) find it. Because a lot of tactics are looming already so you naturally look for ways to deflect the queen or the knight. for chess masters I don't see why its so suspicious to find it in blitz
@@ericneff9908 I absolutely agree with you. One has to be an engine to be able to do everything in no time. For example, if he chated at that move, a human should take a look at the engine at least for a second. I didn't see it at all. Actually, experts can confirm my conclusion by tracking eye movements. This guy is absolutely clean. Still, like Vlad, he is me. I am 1300 but when I lose, I always report a winner and block him:). What a pathetic loser I am!
In blitz any outcome is possible and it really doesn’t matter who you’re playing against. Yet, everyone is dead serious about it. It’s called ego. We all want to win.
1. We all want to win 2. ego On the other hand it doesn't mean that people are cheating. Kind of controversial, I guess. They're cheating, because of their ego and because they don't like to lose. It's obvious.
@staspivovartsev5579 it's just suspicious when a player never shows such performances OTB never shows such performances in title Tuesday but of course like everybody else show such performances against kramnik as if it's the fashionable thing to do. Does it while the whole time he looks like he's not even paying attention or taking the game seriously to his audience. Right... the website in essence gave a green light to streamers to target kramnik for content. Because have they have shown they only play favorites with certain players like msgnus and hikaru. everybody else can kick rocks and there's no fear of cheating against them. It's a shame.
do you really think you can choose your opponents in a tournament. I understand you are accustomed to so many ways to cheat many of which are acceptable. But its wild that you believe that...smh...
@@КороткийГеннадий I don't know how to re-word it. But the only reason you think you can block your opponents in an actual tournament, is because cheating is so acceptable in the community in so many ways. Basically it would be cheating if you could actually do that. Blockng is also a way to block challenges ands messages. Its not a way to block an opponent in an official money event lol. I'm going to assume you use multiple accounts on the website, and probably see nothing wrong with it lol.
@@RichACBlues sorry, I Can't Understand why do you think that I am cheating ? And Why do you Think that I have multiple Accounts? It's very Strange for me that you are assuming that. What Base Do you have for this assuming?
@@КороткийГеннадий Because you think its possible to cheat at a tournament in such an obvious way, and you don't even think of it as cheating. Also I will double down on my claim that you use multiple accounts, because you couldn't even bring yourself to deny it.
I give up. What does 1...d4 do? I'm usually opposed to Kramnik's reckless cheating accusations, but I think (a) it's fair to be suspicious of online players who find brilliant moves in fast time controls and (b) strong players are just as likely, if not more likely, to cheat. That being said, "suspicion" without strong evidence is not grounds for libel/slander or reporting another player.
Honestly I’m starting to see chess is slowly evolving more into who’s more naturally gifted lol. Still skill based don’t get me wrong but I’m seeing a pattern of where people have an insane gift of chess. Only way to have that gift is to simply be born and discover what ur best at with lots of people, being chess.
The reaction from kramnik reminds me of all the times when danya plays speedruns at 2300 level. He also is shocked by how weird and quick some moves are even though he can inmediately understand them after they are played. Funny enough all those opponents are banned weeks later
And that's the thing the website Plays favorites. They make exceptions for Daniel to cheat for entertainment. And when players like him or Hikaru or Magnus point out cheaters they take immediate action. But when someone like kramnik makes public criticisms they run a PR campaign against him and all the cheaters now know that there are no repercussions for cheating against kramnik and it's good content to earn streaming money.
I wonder how Kramnik responded before the game when Tykhon said "good luck" to him with a smiley face in the chat. I'll wager a lot of money Kramnik didn't write "good luck" back. LOL. Tykhon has more integrity in his pinky than Kramnik has in his whole body.
he is supposed to turn his chat off or ignore it during the game as per the rules of the tournament. Kramnik doesn't even reply to his own chat when he streams here is there to play chess. Probably never even saw his message. grow up lmao.
I think young players immediately know what's the best play in some middle games because they were trained by engines. Without much understanding they know an engine would play that move. This makes them look suspicious but that's how chess progresses. This happened to me as an average player.
No one is trained by engines, where did you get this delusional statement from? Its the same saying telescopes teach you astrophysics, and not a teacher. Total nonsense.
3:37 the sequence of moves starting here really is weird aswell. Unreal coordination of all his pieces on the perfect squares, creating pressure down the e file which at first glance seems to be under white's control. Not even considering any luft for himself.
And at 5:10 he JUST played qh5, casually plays qg4 and says that he "missed g3???" Bro threatens mate in 1 and is shocked when kramnik plays the obvious move to defend
@@MartinyH22 this is what baffled me. The kid acts like he is confused on the qg4 move, when clearly he knew what he was doing and what was coming next move lol. He wanted to make sure he was tricking his audience at the same time? Is stream sniping a thing in chess too among streamers? lol Or maybe when you are fed moves you don't know how to explain them? could be anything but in the words of Kramnik "interesting".
This is not just some FM...this particular FM has beaten multiple times much stronger blitz players than Kramnik. So this is not some kind of huge surprise... borderline upset at best.
Before the move that really sets Kramnik off (pawn d4), the guy is obviously just contemplating the position after missing Kramnik's g3. As @AGTOM already mentioned, these accusations really are groundless. Especially since he "blocks and reports" immediately at game's end without any analysis. Well played by Cherniaiev.
He is clearly looking at something off camera around 4:31. a very quick side glance to the right and down that is too fast to be calculating and really looked like his eyes focusing in on something. Very fast. Probably his other pc screen looking at stream flashing on screen, who knows. Also weird how he emphasized such an "unsurity" about the g4 queen move. But the problem is why are people allowed in money events that havent proved themselves legit in more secure environments? It is way too easy to cheat to the point is that is the only way you can be sure someone can even achieve such a performance without cheating. I understand this is just a big open tournament for all titled accounts. But you have to assume alot of people are cheating and it can't be taken seriously. Not by fans and not by players. Thats why noone watches it and only 4% of titled players even play in it . Why have money rewards? Save the money for big tournaments and invite the kids that have proved themselves to be future pros not the ones that say "i'm just a streamer" lol. Thats Unfortunately also why the website can't get any major sponsors to host any tournaments in the first place lol.
@@cooloutacits not even the top line according to kramnik, the time you stated also does not prove anything since I can not even see when he looks off screen. Stop spreading ghosts, should we ask kramnik also to show his monitor? Because the kid was also streaming, just like kramnik. If so, how ridiculous would it be if the FM accused kramnik just because? Kramnik loses on time 50% of the games he loses, then he gets angry, naturally
@@hugopereira2883 There is only two moves not losing in that position. The kid chose the 2nd best move with the pawn that probably noone would play, and it was very strange and mysterious to kramnik. Top move I think was Nh3 check. Maybe the kid did it to play mindgames in a blitz match which is understandable. But who knows.
@@lolivanovich4518 maybe for the streaming content. Doing it against kramnik seems to be the fashion nowadays. Just as much as it is to never do it against Magnus and Hikaru lol
Kramnik loses most of his online games because he keeps moving the pieces by clicking instead of dragging, it's painful to watch. I don't know why he doesn't drag, the way he plays he basically lose like 1-2 seconds a move. He's like an old grandpa that just started using a computer.
Both Black rook and Queen are aiming at white knight. But Black knight is in the way. If you remove it with tempo playing Nh3+ White can defend it with Kg2. So, Nh3+ does not win the piece. Black can still try to remove the knight with tempo by playing d4 and freeing the d5 square, as they did. If White takes with pawn, Black can play Nd5 and win a piece. If White takes with Queen Black has a fork and wins the queen. So, White has to reluctantly take with knight, as Kramnik did. d4 was a pretty looking move indeed.
There were some pretty sus moves from the FM (especially seeing how his expression did not change nor did he seem to express any understanding of the follow-up ideas)
d4 is really a standard tactic. Great move that I would most likely miss in Blitz, but definitely find within 5 minutes in classical. And I'm only 2300 FIDE. Kramnik is such a loser.
I think Kramnik's opponent was cheating. It's not even strong play that he showed for many moves. It's more of how he won on time vs a super GM at 6:30. Kramnik has 5 seconds and his opponent 50 seconds. And the cheater is also winning in terms of the position by threatening mate attacks and threatening to win the Queen. And what does the cheater do? He makes a deliberately weak move, an exchange of pieces. That's how cheaters stay afloat and avoid detection: They let the computer win or have a huge advantage position-wise; they gain a huge time advantage and then troll the opponent (here it's Kramnik) with weak moves as the opponent has too little time left. It decreases cheater's overall accuracy; it makes sure that cheating stays undetected by algorithms. *No honest player who has a huge time advantage and a superb king attack will squander it away just to lower his accuracy, i.e. to stay undetected. Again, I'm referring to **6:30**.*
There was nothing even remotely impressive in that kid's play. The move he cries about is not even best move. The whole game was pretty simple human intuition. You're making a whole theory and supositions which can be made virtually to most games.
I think it backfired on him though. He made the second best move, which turned out to be the one of only two moves not losing and was the way more complicated and strange one. lol
@@cooloutac I think the cheater has been playing on his own since 6:30. He spent all his 50 seconds (while Kramnik had only 5 seconds) trying to maintain his advantage. He's lucky he didn't blunder anything vs Kramnik. Both moves are obvious (the exchange of the queens and Qh5). There were no other moves in that position. If you refer to d4, I think it is a good move but I don't know the engine eval. If the cheater found this move on his own, it doesn't mean he didn't cheat in this game. He clearly did.
@@billmorrigan386 the d4 move is absolutely not obvious. When the Nh3 check move in the draw is staring even a beginner noob like me right in the face. And its such a great move because if Kramnik was take with the pawn he loses knight on the quewen exchange. Or he can mess up and lose his queen on its own lol. But he made the right move with knight takes. After getting over the shock of the kid making the move, which means he was going for the flag instead of draw. Which why would anyone do that against Kramnik if not for the content. So I guess Kramnik is going to have to deal with these things. I personally still think Kramnik looks like he loves playing in this tournament. He's having a ball lol.
@@cooloutac Obviously Kramnik likes playing blitz games. I respect it and I think he is a very good blitz player even nowadays among a very tough competition. Honestly the kid is obviously cheating the first part of the game: he makes super accurate moves super-fast (engine signature). I guess we can include d4 too before he started to play on his own but it doesn't matter really. Any pro player can see and very fast that Kramnik position is inferior after that d4 + he has only 5 seconds vs cheater's 50 seconds. Plus, cheater is a much weaker play, especially in blitz. I don't even care to look up the kid's rating. There are so many cheaters among kids nowadays. Who really cares. He can be 2300, 2400 or even 2500 and so what? Who really cares. They almost all cheat online. It's that simple.
After Black played a pawn sacrifice d4 Mr Kramnik said : is so difficult to see this move even in classical chess. 😂 I am noob and this pawn sacrifice is so obvious for me .
Alekhine really got big Vlad from beyond the grave. Al lost to 21 year old Paul Keres in 1937. He in the end went to have a 5-1 favorable record with 8 draws against that very same Keres. Favorable record against post-prime Garry Chess does not make Big Vlad the new Alekhine.
Крамник совершенно прав, разоблачая жуликов, которых в титульном вторнике развелось очень много. Об этом же говорит Ян Непомнящий и многие другие выдающиеся гроссмейстеры. Но большинство привыкло просто верить в честность своих кумиров и атаковать тех, кто разрушает их веру и открывает им глаза на правду. Читая комментарии ниже, понимаю, что организована целая компания ботов против экс-чемпиона мира.
@kiertteerf3502 ratings are easily manipulated. And it's a shame fide brought back the 400 Point rule so guys like danya and bortnyk can Farm 2200s in Charlotte while pre-arranging draws with each other. But in reality I'm not even sure danya is a top 100 Blitz player. What top finishes has he gotten any major opens and what are some notable players he has beat? He clearly is on another level online and you have to be a fool to think it's because of his mouse skills lmao. 🤣
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The Gut Is streaming… not cheating… is just very good and after that move the game is not win… there are mistakes on both sides
Yeah. Last weak he got really great games against Grischuk and now u see a kid who laugh while looking at is right destroying rhe same guy who draw against Grischuk last week ... of course u surely beat those two guys too.
@@MultiMarcdBro Grisshchuk have been off of his game recently he is not the standard deal with it the older players are yet discovering this new era of chess where everything is available online every knowledgeable they had to grind for.
@stevo7220 and so what's your excuse for kramek beating Fabiano or Levon aronian and dubov in titled Tuesday? How did kramnik get third place at the world Blitz of 2020 behind Magnus and hikaru when he gets owned by the average Im online in tt? This kid probably wouldn't even come top 40 in the world Blitz if he tried his whole life.
Not a fan of Kramnik. But, I would most certainly like to see Mr. Cherniaiev on board for his true rating. This was just too strong on his part. This performance looked 3000+.
he is 14 not 54. You can't measure young players solely based on fide rating. e.g Alireza and Nodirebek were smashing big gms even when they didn't have a high rating yet. That's simply due not playing enough games
@@AnkhArcRod OTB chess is different than online chess. There is more time pressure on both players, experience is more required, you can't premove... Also, it's different when you face your opponent and when you face your screen. Moreover, many young players spend hours every day training online and they're used to 2D chess diagrams. I would suspect nothing even if Chernayev wasn't a FM, just because of his age and the fact that he makes crazy progresses (and plays a lot more online than OTB).
When he is looking to screen right, he is looking at his chat and sometimes smiling because of chat posting dancing emojis. Mostly because he gets distracted from the movement of the emojis out of the corner of his eye. Chat is in emoji-only mode during games.
@defunctbooks he came up to 2400 fide and now is losing rating points to 2300s. The problem is many of these kids only play top level against kramnik for some reason and I blame the website. It's well known no one ever cheats against Hikaru or Magnus because the website plays favorites with them so players won't even take the chance.
Are we comparing apples (classic) to oranges (blitz)? I've done a calculation about classic rating vs. blitz rating in the top 100 and there is not even the slightest hint of a correlation.
ya its ridiculous. And then you got guys like I.d.t who report people to cheat at debating online like they prolly cheat at the game. I don't think these kids realize that online chess doesn't represent the chess world. 96% of active titled players don't even play tournaments online and alot of fans don't even know who these streamers are. I never heard of this kid before this match lol. But defending this clown show in public is like labeling yourself a cheater. Its a shame that chess is turning into a kids game that will never be taken seriously. The website dropping the ball on Hans Neiman probably ruined the potential of chess for the rest of our lifetimes.
This young guy is streaming, responding to watchers, collecting donations and doing fast 1st-2nd line moves. Meanwhile the former world champion is focusing on the game, calculating lines. What is the result? Of course young guy wins. That's realistic, really
exactly lmao. wtf. the website at this point might as well be waving a green flag saying its ok to cheat on Kramnik. we only care about Magnus and HIkaru. unreal....
So you think he cheated age 7 when chessnetwork featured one of his online games that was better than this game? One year later he won 2 world youth titles in blitz aged 8 at under 10 level
@@celsus7979 beating 7 and 9 year old kids who are all below master level is a lot easier than beating a 2650+ level elite GM. (Kramnik's blitz rating peaked at 2841 FIDE, and is now 2664 FIDE... the kid is 2438 FIDE blitz, and he lost rating points at his last blitz tourney a few months ago)... OTOH, there's more luck in blitz, and it's statistically probable for someone to win sometimes against someone rated ~230 points higher.
I'm 2300 and actually i'm with kramnik on this one. We're supposed to believe that a FM guy talking to chat beats a super gm who didnt even have any blunders. D4 really is very weird aswell.
@@bigman7842 playing for about 3 years and what helped me improve the most is playing very aggresive. Gambits, tactics. tactics are the key, and playing openings that allow you to get as many tactics as possible
Этот парень чемпион мира в своих возрастных группах.Он за последние годы наиграл в интернете десятки тысяч партий в блиц. У него отличная тактика,реакция,крепкие нервы.Так что крамника побили честно.
@seebasschipman293 only helps them online though for mysterious reasons. I'm starting to think this is a myth and Bobby Fischer would just be learning new lines and be smoking everybody today just like he did back then. Computers and training methods today help kids reach their potential much faster but they're still only going to reach their certain human potential my friend.
Exactly the kind of video I was looking for. Both streams at the same time. Well done!
It Is hilarious at the end hearing the kid excitedly going over lines and kramnik bitterly accusing him of cheating at the same time lol
yeah, it's one of the funniest things ive seen for a while!
hahaha
Really sad
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*1. e4*
Kramnik: "Okay, that is the best move. I think it's pretty clear, no? Okay, let's go through with the procedure"
e4 is refuted nowadays in top level chess, so actually 1.d4 1.c4 and 1.Nf3 are becoming more popular options
@@SprCH1s jajajajajaj e4 refuted jajajajaja
@@SprCH1s 1. e4 is mainline bongcloud theory which is undefeated in top level chess.
@@SprCH1syou're joking
@@SprCH1sCan you provide the refutation please? Many thanks.
Kramnik: “what I’ve lost? The other guy must be cheating”
😂
He was actually shocked that the pawn move in a drawing position. Because it's a move no one would think to play and was unnecessary. One out of only two moves that were not losing.
Kramnik is playing fine. He's just a little slow. He needs a longer time increment.
@@cooloutac nope, that’s your estimate of the situation and besides; making 1 of 2 moves that eventually won’t lose the game is pretty much the general situation in games at this level from move 5 already anyway. The fact that Kramnik completely miscalculated the danger level of that unpleasant zwischenzug shows an arrogant sloppy carelessness. The pawn is right there; 2 squares away, if it moves ahead it’s practically a free move as long as no immediate checkmates are threatening
@FenceThis my estimate? I'm terrible at chess I simply used the stock fish engine to analyze the position. Lol. So openings are different for them for move five then everybody else? Stop it lol. The more obvious move is kight checks H3. The kid decided to go for a flag and whether he did it for the content or did it because he's cheating is impossible to know. either way he probably wouldn't have done it against Hikaru or Magnus, and wouldn't have done it if he wasn't a streamer. it's simply very suspicious. The most suspicious of all was how he was acting with his audience as if he wasn't going to make those moves. As if he was confused about the queen G4 move but deadpanned on the D4 move. Very weird.
@@cooloutac going for a flag is fine - part of the game, and Kramnik should be prepared and upfront at the situation. He’d tried the chance against anyone including Hikaru and Magnus, just as they’d do the same, happens all the time.
This kid has been grinding over the years on lichess streams, doing blindfold training, puzzle solving sessions, etc. Kramnik just cannot stomach the idea that the kids these days have access to so much high quality training materials and tools that they are simply better than he is at this point, especially at blitz.
Kramnik is 50x the. Player this kid will ever be , this teenager has a 0.001 percent chance of becoming a world champion and kramnik has a 100 percent chance at the same feat
@@ethantodd3558 You've got to be out of your mind. Perhaps the kid has no chance of becoming world champion, I'll give you that. That's because a lot of teenagers nowadays have access to the same training resources and a lot of those teenagers are really skilled. But Kramnik having a 100% chance at becoming the world champion? :)) Kramnik - whilst a really good player for his time - became world champion for the sole reason that Kasparov got stubborn and wanted to prove that he can tear down the Berlin wall. What are you talking about? Nowadays Kramnik stands no chance at the world champion title. Kasparov himself (keeping in mind who's the competition) has no chance to that title nowadays. But all of this doesn't even matter. The fact of the matter is that Kramnik got so obtuse he's unable to admit defeat. In his mind he's only defeatable by machines.
@@evalaviniabucur1789 kramnik is and will forever be a world champion
@@ethantodd3558 and what a world champion he is, indeed! So much dignity, so much fairplay :)
@@ethantodd3558 his sad ass would get whooped by every player in the Candidates today lololol
Poor kid, plays well and gets a win only to get reported by an ex world champion...
In a way thats a big complement...😅
hahaha
That's High Praise!
At this point I doubt Kramnik's accusations significantly tarnish his reputation. Perhaps he can even carry it as a badge of honor.
In February 2020 , at the age 9 years and 11 months, Tykhon Cherniaiev became a Champion of Ukraine in Blitz at the Ukraine Chess Championship 2020, boys - U20. He is the world and European champion Blitz,Rapid - U10, U12. Pure talent.
Tons of kids like that that never make it in the big leagues. Lol
You suck with math huh, 9 years 11 months plus 4 years one month is 14 years old.
you can be good at the game and still cheat..
@@cooloutac Tykhon will make it for sure. He definitely will be GM.
@@danielguardman3530 Being a GM is one thing. beating super gms in major opens is another lol.
It's kind of funny reading Kramnik arguing with people in the comments using a burner account
It's really weird, all these default avatar accounts hard defending Kramnik, like Kramnik wasn't accusing Hikaru of cheating a while ago. Very strange.
Opponent: e4
Kramnik: So you have chosen...the procedure.
What the hell has happened to Kramnik! He needs medication ...
He needs better mouse skills. Maybe fish oil to help with stiff joints.
I'd like to hear more from Vladimir explaining the reasoning underlying his judgment or intuition that d4 is "impossible to find" for a human player.
Any strong player who understands d4 after It was played, realizes It never crossed his Mind and why that is, Will react exactly the same as kramnik did
I don't think he ever said it's impossible to find for a human player he said it's just an unlikely and amazing move. If the roles were reversed I bet that kid would have fell for the Trap and took with pawn instead of the knight. But for me as a beginner Noob it just seems to me as the more unlikely move out of the only two that were not losing moves, because I think most people would not try to flag in that drawing position because it's more likely they would lose to a super GM and hurt their tournament chances. But for a streamer taking a chance against kramnik is much more profitable for them and at this point it seems like the fashionable thing to do. Cheetahs also know the website does not take his complaints seriously like they do with Hikaru or Magnus for example. They have shown they are very vindictive website and don't like criticisms against them even from Fabiano.
I mean, if you feel there is something, and NH3 is not working, you can find that move...
@@ЕгорСопожников kramnik said it didn't cross his mind remotely. I'm 2300 and didn't either. I assure you most strong players feel the same way
@user-um1gn8hs5f why would NH3 not be working?
Why cant he just accept that he`s gotten too old to win against every youngster? I feel so bad for this FM, Kramnik is such a bad looser
You can’t win all the time regardless of age. Besides, you’re talking from a completely different standpoint. You have no chess career behind you nor have you ever been a world champ. You’re just sitting there having opinions.
Kramnik destroys top GMs nowadays (he even won against fabi in the last title Tuesday )
@saaddidouz7357 he's also beat dubov in tt. Levon aronian. He was rated 3000 lol. The guy literally came third behind Magnus and Hikaru in the world Blitz championships of 2020. Most of these kids that own him online wouldn't even finish top 40, that the claim it's because of better Mouse movement is just hilarious.
@@cooloutac ok, and Rafael Vaganian was second in World Blitz Championship 1988, but this doesn't mean he's still got the power of crushing everyone...
he loses so often getting outplayed with barely any reasonable fighting chance against random FMs.. but can play very competitive games against even the most elite GMs..?!! make it make sense plz.. cuz it's clear you don't watch how his matches against other GMs in TT go.. the way those go.. you'd think Fabi, Levon and others are all washed and overrated..
Kramniks procedure trick solved the endgame. Classic.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love watching Kramnik play these days
Kramnik is just a bitter old man at this point. Sad to see. Cherniaiev on the hand spreading so much joy ♥
Plot twist: Kramnik is using an older version of stockfish so when he loses he knows the other player was cheating
4:00 kramnik going for the "he's too quick" option select, that way he can accuse the boy of cheating when the old man loses on time too
Kramnik thinking someone is cheating because they’re “playing too quickly” (pre-moving) when real cheaters take 10-20 seconds consistently because they have to switch over to their engine and input moves is pure comedy
You are uninformed. There are many ways a player can cheat that involve the ability to premove.
that's not true, the kid was not cheating imo, and Kramnik is uterlly paranoid. But your comment is simply not true, I assume it is just ignorance though. Cause not knowing that you can literally cheat in so many different ways, including straight up without even touching the mouse in a bullet game seems just like a lack of information.
Hmm.. Why Kramnik has not been banned from these online tournaments for his gazillion of groundless accusations?
Because only 4% of titled players are stupid enough to even play in this tournament. You would have to be naive and crazy to take it seriously. Because the CEO has already told Perpetual Chess Podcast last week he can't get any sponsorhips to host tournaments. People would rather watch their favorite streamer smurf and sandbag on low rated players for entertainment and that is the culture that was created by a corrupt website exploiting kids and anonymity. For Kramnik it was his career and is his life's passion and he is simply trying to save what you already destroyed. The problem is online gaming companies never actually ban anyone. The only people who should not be allowed in this tournament or those players who fall into such suspicions and have never proved such performances in more secure environments to earn the chance to win money from career professionals imo.
@cooloutac I really dont get this 4% argument at all. How is 4% out of literally every titled player in the world a small number? For a single tournament held two times every week isnt that substantial? Also among the regular stupid participants you can find the best players in the world. Magnus, Hikaru, Fabi and Alireza literally all played in the most recent one
@@cooloutacare you autistic or something?
@@Noname-nk5kv so you don't think its strange at all? 96% of active titled players don't play in the tournament not even for fun? it sure as hell is weird to me buddy, but the answer to the question of why is not. The answer is extremely obvious.
don't you have to stream to participate in tt?
"Looks a little strange, this speed", yeah Vlad, that's called online chess skills, by the way it is precisely a marker of NOT CHEATING
At this rate Kramnik will not have anyone else to play with on Titled Tuesday other than Magnus and Nakamura (oh wait, he must have blocked him too).
Jokes aside, I'm actually wondering how this is handled by the Swiss system. If you're performing well and supposed to play against the top player but you've blocked him, and maybe you've also blocked everyone in the top 20, you'll play against player 21? This seems unfair (for the others). Are blocked players really blocked during tournaments?
@@DexM47 Blocking doesn't do anything in tournaments
@@joshjac81010 to kids who come from a cheating culture of manipulating ratings they think you could just manipulate anything it's insane. Didn't even cross his mind how unsporting that would be if the website was to allow it smh....
@joshjac81010 these kids are so indoctrinated by a cheating culture they think someone can manipulate tournaments like that and it blows my mind. They talk as if it's allowed and acceptable. Lol
@@joshjac81010 kids today where cheating is so common, Believe you can manipulate results in so many sorts of ways and they think its literally allowed. Such a shame.
Kramnik should be a reporter
Lol 😂
That Qd5 calculation in the first minute was nice to watch. Kramnik explains well.
I feel sorry for Vladimir. Though a strong grandmaster he's having trouble ageing gracefully. The fact that there are some cheaters definately doesn't help his level of paranoia. Also Vlad is impaling himself with a NOCEBO effect where he spends his time questioning his opponent instead endeavouring to play his best.
Whats becoming obvious to me. IS that players like HIkaru, Magnus are the only guys now who get taken seriously by the website so noone cheats against them. Even Wesley So once accused Tigran Petrosian of looking down on camera and cheating on social media, who eventually admitted it and got banned. But now noone is allowed to say anything? The websites just censor everyone? Very strange, although this has been the problem as to why e-sports have not been popular for 30 years. The feeling of unatural matchups or gameplays along with the anonymity is just too much for society to respect. No safeguards at all. 0. I figured that because chess is the only one that is played the same in both digital and physical worlds they would be the one to change things. Start to apply at least the same sporting principles we apply in real life. But I feel it is too much lord of the flies and the organizations are exploiting these kids not caring how corrupt they are making them.
Looks to me like he's having the time of his life playing online. But as more and more players make accounts online less and less people are becoming fans of the game. The CEO of the website himself says it's not marketable he can't get any sponsorships and he's probably going to bail out in 5 years.
@@Megaestatesalesweb not according to his accuracy. The kid just found an amazing Blitz move to flag him.
kramnik was never graceful. he has been like this all his life.
@@redscar183 Actually Vishy Anand has always talked about how Kasparov wouldn't even talk to him. But Kramnik was always very sociable and friendly with him even after Vishy would beat him. He says Kasparov is the type of guy that likes to keep his potential competitors at a distance not to lose his killer instinct against them, But Kramnik was never like that. this is coming from Vishy Anand my friend. Literally the only "nice" world champion besides Capablanca in all of Chess history. Add Kramnik to the list of those 3. You are talking about a guy that ran Chess Camps in India when asked buddy. Someone who actually still follows their careers. Kasparov also once said though, that to be a world champion you can't be a pushover. And no competitive player likes losing. Even Vishy Anand totally snapped, even scaring Magnus once, at a press conference when he lost the WCC to him. banged on the table, yelled at a reporter then stormed out. It is called being Human. But guys like Kramnik and Vishy don't hold grudges and are able to get over it. Unlike alot of players.
It's way more surprising that Kramnik DIDN'T see the move - it was obvious to me and I'm barely 1700.
Kramnik should play somewhere in the park on a bench with pensioners. This is his current level.
Kramnik is like the opposite of karpov. Hes such a sore loser
Kramnik knows who is cheating because he is cheating at the same time but only plays the second best move in certain positions.
This is the way.
Kramnik played the Integrity Gambit
Paranoia
Tykhon is seriously good and he has gotten better incredibly fast. I played him on Lichess when he was 9 or something. The kid beat me like 3-1. Kid also streams frequently and shared his thought process, so he is the real deal. Not surprised that he pushed Kramnik’s button, especially when he’s spiralling downwards.
Playing online is meaningless though. It's too easy to cheat and even when caught there's no repercussions.
@@cooloutac Hakuna your tatas, boomer.
Noway, that's insane
@detherocablest7054 thanks for confirmong online chess is only taken seriously by children. No wonder Erik allebest complained to Perpetual podcast a few weeks ago that he can't even get any sponsorships to host tournaments. He said online chess is not marketable and imo this community is an example of why.
@@cooloutacin your opinion..
Kramnik lived long enough to see himself become the villain
1:30 pretend to be tiny beta! What a line🔥🔥
The procedure!
Where's evaluation bar?
kramnik not taking any chances with reporting cheaters everytime he loses by opponents brilliant moves
How to identify a cheater?
Everyone who beat Kramnik is a cheater.
it can't be ruled out the other guy cheated. but why is d4 such an impossible move? I'm like 1900 and I think in a classical game I could (on a sunny day) find it. Because a lot of tactics are looming already so you naturally look for ways to deflect the queen or the knight. for chess masters I don't see why its so suspicious to find it in blitz
With respect, I'd say, watching this video, it can completely be ruled out that there was any cheating.
@@ericneff9908 I absolutely agree with you. One has to be an engine to be able to do everything in no time. For example, if he chated at that move, a human should take a look at the engine at least for a second. I didn't see it at all. Actually, experts can confirm my conclusion by tracking eye movements. This guy is absolutely clean. Still, like Vlad, he is me. I am 1300 but when I lose, I always report a winner and block him:). What a pathetic loser I am!
It can be pretty easily ruled out that the guy was cheating yeah
@@ericneff9908 how?
@@BraceGD how?
Ahahahahahaha incredible. He Is blocking all users! 😂😂😂😂😂
In blitz any outcome is possible and it really doesn’t matter who you’re playing against. Yet, everyone is dead serious about it. It’s called ego. We all want to win.
Yes of course an FM defeats a super gm without even trying and doesn't even come remotely clase with otb results
1. We all want to win
2. ego
On the other hand it doesn't mean that people are cheating. Kind of controversial, I guess. They're cheating, because of their ego and because they don't like to lose. It's obvious.
@@staspivovartsev5579 That’s right.
@staspivovartsev5579 it's just suspicious when a player never shows such performances OTB never shows such performances in title Tuesday but of course like everybody else show such performances against kramnik as if it's the fashionable thing to do. Does it while the whole time he looks like he's not even paying attention or taking the game seriously to his audience. Right... the website in essence gave a green light to streamers to target kramnik for content. Because have they have shown they only play favorites with certain players like msgnus and hikaru. everybody else can kick rocks and there's no fear of cheating against them. It's a shame.
@@cooloutacI think you're being paranoid. Are you Kramnik btw?
He Reports almost everyone he Plays. Soon he Will have No One to play with.
do you really think you can choose your opponents in a tournament. I understand you are accustomed to so many ways to cheat many of which are acceptable. But its wild that you believe that...smh...
@@RichACBlues I don't understand What you said
@@КороткийГеннадий I don't know how to re-word it. But the only reason you think you can block your opponents in an actual tournament, is because cheating is so acceptable in the community in so many ways. Basically it would be cheating if you could actually do that. Blockng is also a way to block challenges ands messages. Its not a way to block an opponent in an official money event lol. I'm going to assume you use multiple accounts on the website, and probably see nothing wrong with it lol.
@@RichACBlues sorry, I Can't Understand why do you think that I am cheating ? And Why do you Think that I have multiple Accounts? It's very Strange for me that you are assuming that. What Base Do you have for this assuming?
@@КороткийГеннадий Because you think its possible to cheat at a tournament in such an obvious way, and you don't even think of it as cheating. Also I will double down on my claim that you use multiple accounts, because you couldn't even bring yourself to deny it.
5:28 I'm sorry but d4 in that position with that amount of time is ridiculous. It's not a human move. I understand completely Kramniks suspicions.
What i dont get is... the FM is streaming , any cheating software would be seen on his screen.
@usuariocelular8065 nah, a second monitor is all that's needed
@@slothbearanonymous when kids beat Stockfish oneday also... they say legit.. we didn't cheat.
The thief calls Hold the thief
I give up. What does 1...d4 do?
I'm usually opposed to Kramnik's reckless cheating accusations, but I think (a) it's fair to be suspicious of online players who find brilliant moves in fast time controls and (b) strong players are just as likely, if not more likely, to cheat.
That being said, "suspicion" without strong evidence is not grounds for libel/slander or reporting another player.
Ah, now I see it. 1...d4! 2. cxd Nd5!
Why is that so hard to see? Huh.
Kramnic is insane I love it
Vladimir "The Procedure" Kramnik
Honestly I’m starting to see chess is slowly evolving more into who’s more naturally gifted lol. Still skill based don’t get me wrong but I’m seeing a pattern of where people have an insane gift of chess. Only way to have that gift is to simply be born and discover what ur best at with lots of people, being chess.
Kramnik should play poker against Phil Hellmuth.
They're both 6ft 6 incidentally.
The reaction from kramnik reminds me of all the times when danya plays speedruns at 2300 level. He also is shocked by how weird and quick some moves are even though he can inmediately understand them after they are played. Funny enough all those opponents are banned weeks later
And that's the thing the website Plays favorites. They make exceptions for Daniel to cheat for entertainment. And when players like him or Hikaru or Magnus point out cheaters they take immediate action. But when someone like kramnik makes public criticisms they run a PR campaign against him and all the cheaters now know that there are no repercussions for cheating against kramnik and it's good content to earn streaming money.
I wonder how Kramnik responded before the game when Tykhon said "good luck" to him with a smiley face in the chat. I'll wager a lot of money Kramnik didn't write "good luck" back. LOL. Tykhon has more integrity in his pinky than Kramnik has in his whole body.
Because he didn't respond to chat? Get a life, most people have that crap turned off
Been watching casino royale have ya
he is supposed to turn his chat off or ignore it during the game as per the rules of the tournament. Kramnik doesn't even reply to his own chat when he streams here is there to play chess. Probably never even saw his message. grow up lmao.
What the f*k is this 10 year old logic
GREAT VIDEO! Clear path to victory against Kram the miserable fool 🎉
Kramink is becoming a parody of himself. Wouldn't even let the poor kid enjoy 30 seconds of happiness.
Add some Ritalin to a youngster stuck infront of his computer and Kramnik stand no chance.
Say what you want but that d4 move was really weird but I am 100% sure the kid didnot cheat.
where Kramnik streams, anyone knows?
On his youtube channel
All links are in the description of each video.
www.youtube.com/@VBKramnik
I think only someone who has cheated before could behave this way....Kramnick ,paranoic thinking everybody is a cheater.
Крамник гений и чувствует, кто как играет. Крамник прав на 100 % до того момента, как этот читтерёнок не покажет результат вживую.
Ah the fall from grace of the champion...
Where can i watch the boy stream
tychon is like young ivanchuk
I think young players immediately know what's the best play in some middle games because they were trained by engines. Without much understanding they know an engine would play that move. This makes them look suspicious but that's how chess progresses. This happened to me as an average player.
Пускай вживую так играют, тогда и посмотрим, как их движки "научили".
No one is trained by engines, where did you get this delusional statement from? Its the same saying telescopes teach you astrophysics, and not a teacher. Total nonsense.
@@VitorSantos-dh1jrtelescopes do teach you astrophysics if you’re smart enough. Clearly you are not that good
@@VitorSantos-dh1jr you play against the computer ergo ur "trained by the engine".
Kramnik is the LowTierGod/DSP of grandmasters
It just shows Kramnik's skepticism is moronic
Kramnik's problem is he is playing TiLted Tuesdays.
kramnik the worst piece of chess
Why not cd on ...d4?
3:37 the sequence of moves starting here really is weird aswell. Unreal coordination of all his pieces on the perfect squares, creating pressure down the e file which at first glance seems to be under white's control. Not even considering any luft for himself.
And at 5:10 he JUST played qh5, casually plays qg4 and says that he "missed g3???" Bro threatens mate in 1 and is shocked when kramnik plays the obvious move to defend
And 7:38 is unbeliveably weird. WHY on EARTH do you not take the rook. I can't understand this at all.
And for some reason the fm guy never looked at the clock. A young FM guy who doesn't even use time advantage to try to beat a super GM
And finally at 9:06 does the guy really say "it should be a draw i don't know why black is pushing so hard" like what
@@MartinyH22 this is what baffled me. The kid acts like he is confused on the qg4 move, when clearly he knew what he was doing and what was coming next move lol. He wanted to make sure he was tricking his audience at the same time? Is stream sniping a thing in chess too among streamers? lol Or maybe when you are fed moves you don't know how to explain them? could be anything but in the words of Kramnik "interesting".
This is not just some FM...this particular FM has beaten multiple times much stronger blitz players than Kramnik. So this is not some kind of huge surprise... borderline upset at best.
Before the move that really sets Kramnik off (pawn d4), the guy is obviously just contemplating the position after missing Kramnik's g3. As @AGTOM already mentioned, these accusations really are groundless. Especially since he "blocks and reports" immediately at game's end without any analysis. Well played by Cherniaiev.
He is clearly looking at something off camera around 4:31. a very quick side glance to the right and down that is too fast to be calculating and really looked like his eyes focusing in on something. Very fast. Probably his other pc screen looking at stream flashing on screen, who knows. Also weird how he emphasized such an "unsurity" about the g4 queen move. But the problem is why are people allowed in money events that havent proved themselves legit in more secure environments? It is way too easy to cheat to the point is that is the only way you can be sure someone can even achieve such a performance without cheating. I understand this is just a big open tournament for all titled accounts. But you have to assume alot of people are cheating and it can't be taken seriously. Not by fans and not by players. Thats why noone watches it and only 4% of titled players even play in it . Why have money rewards? Save the money for big tournaments and invite the kids that have proved themselves to be future pros not the ones that say "i'm just a streamer" lol. Thats Unfortunately also why the website can't get any major sponsors to host any tournaments in the first place lol.
@@cooloutacits not even the top line according to kramnik, the time you stated also does not prove anything since I can not even see when he looks off screen. Stop spreading ghosts, should we ask kramnik also to show his monitor? Because the kid was also streaming, just like kramnik. If so, how ridiculous would it be if the FM accused kramnik just because? Kramnik loses on time 50% of the games he loses, then he gets angry, naturally
@@hugopereira2883 There is only two moves not losing in that position. The kid chose the 2nd best move with the pawn that probably noone would play, and it was very strange and mysterious to kramnik. Top move I think was Nh3 check. Maybe the kid did it to play mindgames in a blitz match which is understandable. But who knows.
@@cooloutac playing mind games by choosing less human move to arise more suspicion... sure mate, whatever
@@lolivanovich4518 maybe for the streaming content. Doing it against kramnik seems to be the fashion nowadays. Just as much as it is to never do it against Magnus and Hikaru lol
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Kramnik loses most of his online games because he keeps moving the pieces by clicking instead of dragging, it's painful to watch. I don't know why he doesn't drag, the way he plays he basically lose like 1-2 seconds a move. He's like an old grandpa that just started using a computer.
can someone explain to me what was up with the d4 move near the end? im too low ELO to understand that move
if kraminik took it with his pawn he would lose material at the end of the line,If take with horse the position is equal
Both Black rook and Queen are aiming at white knight. But Black knight is in the way. If you remove it with tempo playing Nh3+ White can defend it with Kg2. So, Nh3+ does not win the piece. Black can still try to remove the knight with tempo by playing d4 and freeing the d5 square, as they did. If White takes with pawn, Black can play Nd5 and win a piece. If White takes with Queen Black has a fork and wins the queen. So, White has to reluctantly take with knight, as Kramnik did.
d4 was a pretty looking move indeed.
There were some pretty sus moves from the FM (especially seeing how his expression did not change nor did he seem to express any understanding of the follow-up ideas)
d4 is really a standard tactic. Great move that I would most likely miss in Blitz, but definitely find within 5 minutes in classical. And I'm only 2300 FIDE. Kramnik is such a loser.
Hopefully kramnik sees this lol
The kid at the beginning does appear to have someone in the room with him.
I think Kramnik's opponent was cheating. It's not even strong play that he showed for many moves. It's more of how he won on time vs a super GM at 6:30. Kramnik has 5 seconds and his opponent 50 seconds. And the cheater is also winning in terms of the position by threatening mate attacks and threatening to win the Queen. And what does the cheater do? He makes a deliberately weak move, an exchange of pieces. That's how cheaters stay afloat and avoid detection: They let the computer win or have a huge advantage position-wise; they gain a huge time advantage and then troll the opponent (here it's Kramnik) with weak moves as the opponent has too little time left. It decreases cheater's overall accuracy; it makes sure that cheating stays undetected by algorithms. *No honest player who has a huge time advantage and a superb king attack will squander it away just to lower his accuracy, i.e. to stay undetected. Again, I'm referring to **6:30**.*
There was nothing even remotely impressive in that kid's play. The move he cries about is not even best move. The whole game was pretty simple human intuition. You're making a whole theory and supositions which can be made virtually to most games.
I think it backfired on him though. He made the second best move, which turned out to be the one of only two moves not losing and was the way more complicated and strange one. lol
@@cooloutac I think the cheater has been playing on his own since 6:30. He spent all his 50 seconds (while Kramnik had only 5 seconds) trying to maintain his advantage. He's lucky he didn't blunder anything vs Kramnik. Both moves are obvious (the exchange of the queens and Qh5). There were no other moves in that position. If you refer to d4, I think it is a good move but I don't know the engine eval. If the cheater found this move on his own, it doesn't mean he didn't cheat in this game. He clearly did.
@@billmorrigan386 the d4 move is absolutely not obvious. When the Nh3 check move in the draw is staring even a beginner noob like me right in the face. And its such a great move because if Kramnik was take with the pawn he loses knight on the quewen exchange. Or he can mess up and lose his queen on its own lol. But he made the right move with knight takes. After getting over the shock of the kid making the move, which means he was going for the flag instead of draw. Which why would anyone do that against Kramnik if not for the content. So I guess Kramnik is going to have to deal with these things. I personally still think Kramnik looks like he loves playing in this tournament. He's having a ball lol.
@@cooloutac Obviously Kramnik likes playing blitz games. I respect it and I think he is a very good blitz player even nowadays among a very tough competition. Honestly the kid is obviously cheating the first part of the game: he makes super accurate moves super-fast (engine signature). I guess we can include d4 too before he started to play on his own but it doesn't matter really. Any pro player can see and very fast that Kramnik position is inferior after that d4 + he has only 5 seconds vs cheater's 50 seconds. Plus, cheater is a much weaker play, especially in blitz. I don't even care to look up the kid's rating. There are so many cheaters among kids nowadays. Who really cares. He can be 2300, 2400 or even 2500 and so what? Who really cares. They almost all cheat online. It's that simple.
This was hilarious. 😂😂😂
After Black played a pawn sacrifice d4 Mr Kramnik said : is so difficult to see this move even in classical chess. 😂 I am noob and this pawn sacrifice is so obvious for me .
Alekhine really got big Vlad from beyond the grave. Al lost to 21 year old Paul Keres in 1937. He in the end went to have a 5-1 favorable record with 8 draws against that very same Keres. Favorable record against post-prime Garry Chess does not make Big Vlad the new Alekhine.
He was a great champion, but it's horrible that he deals with his inevitable decline by casting aspersions on younger folks.
I'm assuming you mean the decline of chess as a valid career path.
He looks like he could be chucky's kid
When you loose the game just block your opponent 😂😂😂
can someone explain whats wrong with pawn takes pawn after white pawn d5->4?
Nd5 and white losing
He either loses Knight And Trades queen or just loses queen potentially being down a piece. Use a board editor and play it out.
Freeing up d5 allows the black knight to jump there and threaten the white queen & knight at the same time.
How super GM lose to FM?
Крамник совершенно прав, разоблачая жуликов, которых в титульном вторнике развелось очень много. Об этом же говорит Ян Непомнящий и многие другие выдающиеся гроссмейстеры. Но большинство привыкло просто верить в честность своих кумиров и атаковать тех, кто разрушает их веру и открывает им глаза на правду. Читая комментарии ниже, понимаю, что организована целая компания ботов против экс-чемпиона мира.
Those are the kind of fide masters that make Nepo and Naroditsky wish they were paired against 2700+ GMs instead.
Nah that's just Stockfish tho
Naroditsky is one of those online overperformers thst suck otb. Nepo definitely complains about such people though indeed.
@@cooloutac "suck otb" with 2650 rating peak lmao. I see your point comparatively speaking to his blitz abilities but still i thought that was funny.
@kiertteerf3502 ratings are easily manipulated. And it's a shame fide brought back the 400 Point rule so guys like danya and bortnyk can Farm 2200s in Charlotte while pre-arranging draws with each other. But in reality I'm not even sure danya is a top 100 Blitz player. What top finishes has he gotten any major opens and what are some notable players he has beat? He clearly is on another level online and you have to be a fool to think it's because of his mouse skills lmao. 🤣
The Gut Is streaming… not cheating… is just very good and after that move the game is not win… there are mistakes on both sides
VLAD is THE BEST streamer :) what we would do without Vlad XD "block and report " XDXDXD
Such a bad loser is Mr. Kramnik :D
Yeah. Last weak he got really great games against Grischuk and now u see a kid who laugh while looking at is right destroying rhe same guy who draw against Grischuk last week ... of course u surely beat those two guys too.
@@MultiMarcd6:54-6:56, but there must be a cat
Nah Kramnik is right, this kid wouldnot win against VLAD in this lifetime
@@MultiMarcdBro Grisshchuk have been off of his game recently he is not the standard deal with it the older players are yet discovering this new era of chess where everything is available online every knowledgeable they had to grind for.
@stevo7220 and so what's your excuse for kramek beating Fabiano or Levon aronian and dubov in titled Tuesday? How did kramnik get third place at the world Blitz of 2020 behind Magnus and hikaru when he gets owned by the average Im online in tt? This kid probably wouldn't even come top 40 in the world Blitz if he tried his whole life.
One is a rising star, the other one a falling star... this is sad to see.
Not a fan of Kramnik. But, I would most certainly like to see Mr. Cherniaiev on board for his true rating. This was just too strong on his part. This performance looked 3000+.
he is 14 not 54. You can't measure young players solely based on fide rating. e.g Alireza and Nodirebek were smashing big gms even when they didn't have a high rating yet. That's simply due not playing enough games
@@shahariarshahed2175 Sure. Let him play over the board and earn his stripes.
He sounds suspicious to me... Oh I missed that, okay let me deal the death blow now!
@@AnkhArcRod OTB chess is different than online chess. There is more time pressure on both players, experience is more required, you can't premove... Also, it's different when you face your opponent and when you face your screen. Moreover, many young players spend hours every day training online and they're used to 2D chess diagrams. I would suspect nothing even if Chernayev wasn't a FM, just because of his age and the fact that he makes crazy progresses (and plays a lot more online than OTB).
He is cheater
which of his moves was even moderately suspect? 😂
When he is looking to screen right, he is looking at his chat and sometimes smiling because of chat posting dancing emojis. Mostly because he gets distracted from the movement of the emojis out of the corner of his eye. Chat is in emoji-only mode during games.
So a distracted FM Beats a focused super GM. Yep, very normal
@@MartinyH22 Yep. You'll have to get over it. Tykhon is coming up.
@defunctbooks he came up to 2400 fide and now is losing rating points to 2300s. The problem is many of these kids only play top level against kramnik for some reason and I blame the website. It's well known no one ever cheats against Hikaru or Magnus because the website plays favorites with them so players won't even take the chance.
Somebody needs to saw this video to kramnik to tell how stupid he was...
It’s amazing how these kids just blow away ex world champions and people 300+ elo higher than them when they are online.
Are we comparing apples (classic) to oranges (blitz)? I've done a calculation about classic rating vs. blitz rating in the top 100 and there is not even the slightest hint of a correlation.
ya its ridiculous. And then you got guys like I.d.t who report people to cheat at debating online like they prolly cheat at the game. I don't think these kids realize that online chess doesn't represent the chess world. 96% of active titled players don't even play tournaments online and alot of fans don't even know who these streamers are. I never heard of this kid before this match lol. But defending this clown show in public is like labeling yourself a cheater. Its a shame that chess is turning into a kids game that will never be taken seriously. The website dropping the ball on Hans Neiman probably ruined the potential of chess for the rest of our lifetimes.
@@RichACBluesI have never, ever reported someone on youtube, try harder.
Kramnik even has the piece animations on and is so clumsy with the mouse, that those two factors alone will hinder his blitz play substantially.
@@jtekholm he rated 2900+ wtf are you talking about? you sound crazy.
Just change the "titled Tuesday" too "tilted Tuesday"
This young guy is streaming, responding to watchers, collecting donations and doing fast 1st-2nd line moves. Meanwhile the former world champion is focusing on the game, calculating lines. What is the result? Of course young guy wins. That's realistic, really
exactly lmao. wtf. the website at this point might as well be waving a green flag saying its ok to cheat on Kramnik. we only care about Magnus and HIkaru. unreal....
So you think he cheated age 7 when chessnetwork featured one of his online games that was better than this game?
One year later he won 2 world youth titles in blitz aged 8 at under 10 level
@@celsus7979 tons of stories like that doesn't mean they become super gms. I think it's the streaming that automatically corrupts a lot of players.
@@celsus7979 beating 7 and 9 year old kids who are all below master level is a lot easier than beating a 2650+ level elite GM. (Kramnik's blitz rating peaked at 2841 FIDE, and is now 2664 FIDE... the kid is 2438 FIDE blitz, and he lost rating points at his last blitz tourney a few months ago)... OTOH, there's more luck in blitz, and it's statistically probable for someone to win sometimes against someone rated ~230 points higher.
@@illarionbykov5246 like a 5% chance. But the fact it happens routinely to Kramnik is too much of an anomaly to be a coincidence.
D4 is godly move or we can say magnus level move
I'm 2300 and actually i'm with kramnik on this one. We're supposed to believe that a FM guy talking to chat beats a super gm who didnt even have any blunders. D4 really is very weird aswell.
How is d4 a weird move it is a simple deflection
how did you get to 2300 and how long have you been playing ser ? looking for tips my self
@@bigman7842 playing for about 3 years and what helped me improve the most is playing very aggresive. Gambits, tactics. tactics are the key, and playing openings that allow you to get as many tactics as possible
Pfff, Kramnik is crazy. He played 85 and his "cheating" opponent played 89,5. And that was the whole story.
Этот парень чемпион мира в своих возрастных группах.Он за последние годы наиграл в интернете десятки тысяч партий в блиц. У него отличная тактика,реакция,крепкие нервы.Так что крамника побили честно.
That pawn move attacking the q did it for me. Im very sceptical as well, seems nearly Everyone would beat Bobby Fischer these days.
I'm 800 elo and I always attack with pawns when a strong piece comes near my king, there is nothing suspicious there.
Probably lots of titled players could beat Bobby Fischer nowadays… engines have made humans stronger players
@seebasschipman293 only helps them online though for mysterious reasons. I'm starting to think this is a myth and Bobby Fischer would just be learning new lines and be smoking everybody today just like he did back then. Computers and training methods today help kids reach their potential much faster but they're still only going to reach their certain human potential my friend.
especially considering his passing in 2008