Performer Reacts to Irene and Seulgi "놀이 (Naughty)" MV
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It’s interesting how you compared riffing and melisma to tutting and voguing, cuz I did make the exact same comparison back then as well lol. Runs and riffs require 3 main components: pitch precision, melodic flow, and clear note separation. While dancing styles like tutting, voguing, waacking are very intricate and focus on the smallest details and body parts like fingers, wrists, palms, etc. They all take a whole lot of memorization, discipline and practice practice practice to make them perfect. I’d also compare ballet or hip hop to sustained legato in singing, cuz they both are very “straightforward”, focus more on bigger pictures. That explains why a sustained belted high note or a big hip hop routine would be very up in the face and looking/sounding big. But overall, when it comes to singing or dancing in general they all take hella hard work and discipline to become better.
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They spent 1 months to learn the basics of tutting, another 3 month to practice this choreo alongside with Monster's choreo. Both irene and seulgi + the dancers deserves so much recognition for their hardwork 👏👏👏👏👏
any source?
@@bumblephoenx th-cam.com/video/JiQIfuZ14Jk/w-d-xo.html
They mentioned that in this radio session. One of the choreographer, Shim Jaewon also mentioned in his Q&A on IG that the choreo takes about 5 months of planning
Amazing! So yeah, no cover for me hahaha
@@JeffAvenue can u react to "Blackpink 24/365" u can see Lisa and her coreographer practing
ur at 999 likes and i liked so im ur 1000th like hihi
Seulgi: I love our group because we never use the same concept twice
👀🤭// but where’s the lie tho
oohhh 👀👀
concept*
Did she really say that?
Max yes, in some recent vlive/interview i guess?
Irene and Seulgi's sophisticated and clean choreography saved the bad CGI effects in the outro. Our girls do really slay tho, it makes me cry.
Tf
Reaction gfry
Omg. I saw you again. Lol.
Yuhh 😂 that bad CGI is embarrassing
Tell me who is your real name ? 🙈
Just when you thought Red Velvet has ran out of concepts and styles, they pull this masterpiece. They are really sticking to their "no repeating of concepts" brand. Just one of the reasons to stan them more!
Louder please.
Yeah true. I stan groups that always go for multiple concepts, red velvet is always on top of the list
That’s true.
Sorry couldn't like a milliom times.
Yaaas bruh!that's FACT
Louder for people at the back and sleeping on them!!!
irene and straight are two words i never thought i'd hear together
fam omg shshhshsh
underrated
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hahahaha
for real.
Also, aside from the lit choreography.. we cannot just ignore the fact that Naughty is such a nice song too! Their harmonization is on point and Seulgi's low register is just...ah Mama Mia!
You are so consistent that it frightens me
@@kokoflop2902 ikr. 🤣
The bassline is so groovy too.
The song suits them well!!
Like really well
Most of RV's songs have difficult choreo, like they are moving every secs while have to manage to sing! I'm shook. Rookie is the most difficult one so far.
yeah rookie and be natural took me the longest time. rookie was because the sequence were so random but it fits so well and by so my brain is just hella confused. be natural was just hard and im not flexible so i cant with the legs movement lol
he needs to add rookie to his reaction list! its the most difficult choreo.
Automatic says hi! I mean the part where they roll on the ground 😂😳
All i have to say is this duo raised the standards of kpop music and execution in general.
I love your analysis about Irene and Seulgi's dance style! You nailed them down pat considering you just newly reacted to them. The moment you said Irene has ballet lessons I smiled cause she really is the most flexible in the group! And with Seulgi, I get what you said about her having a bit of a bounce to her moves. She's known to take every choreography and make it her own thus the choreo would always have her own flavor. Whereas Irene is more faithful to the choreo and it helps that she's super flexible so she can easily get the angles right 😁 Amazing thing is they both entered SM as non-dancers. So to get to this level, I can't imagine how hard they must've worked!
has Irene actually had ballet lessons??
@@emmylia all sm trainees are required to train that. Also irene, do pilates so she is more flexible than seulgi
@@emmylia and if you see her episode 2 of this, she kind of did ballet moves in there or more so modern contemporary of some sort ---very cool
ahh okay thanks for the replies!
joowon stan's comment I see, is a comment I agree with.
Seulgi, the girl in black, has been dancing more in hip hop or boy groups dances back in her trainee period. She is known for her sharp and powerful dance. Yet irene, the girl in white, she has more fluidity and flexibility in her movements at the same clean and precise.
As much as I want to follow the choreo, I just don't; because the last time I tried this choreo I looked like a roach after getting bug sprayed.
roach.. lol
Your name tho XD
I didn't even bother trying cuz I'd look like the clown I am and exposing myself is someone elses job so I'm just sitting here enjoying naughty 👍
You are so consistent. We should learn from you. Lol
I see you there Mark Lee
As a Naruto fan, this is my type choreography
Lol
rise my fellow shinobi
Lmao
JSKSKSKSK IM DYING
AHAHAHAHAH OMG
I HIGHLY BELIEVE THAT THEY COULD STILL PERFORM THIS GOOD WITH LIVE VOCALS. THAT'S SM ARTISTS TO YOU
and they did today :)
Live stages are out! MUST WATCH
They just perform naughty today at Asian Song Festival and then it brought me here... The live is more amazing especially the choreo... tutting just wow
They are giving those covers dancers hard time lol
Have we seen a good one? Haha
@@JeffAvenue haven't see a single cover yet lol
R H Simpson lol everyone’s arms are too tangled to upload vids
@@JeffAvenue This was the 1st cover uploaded on this song and they did it so well on their first time trying Tutting th-cam.com/video/OHaexebrs0k/w-d-xo.html:)
Irene is sharp and elegant. She hits the moves and is able to isolate it in a very crisp way. Seulgi is more fluid and that "bounce" is like a slight extension of the move. It looks more animated because she extends beyond the move then settles back into place. It gives the moves an interesting energy in contrast to the incredible control Irene has. It makes them such a great duo.
You got the names right. 👏🏻 Do not worry about making mistakes on their names, ReveLuvs are happy to help you with that. 😊
Seulgi is Red Velvet's "Main Dancer" and her moves are more into hiphop? Her vocals are also amazing and it is very rare for a Kpop Main Dancer (because Main Dancers are usually good at rapping). She could be Red Velvet's Main Vocalist if they don't have Wendy.
While Irene is Red Velvet's "Leader" and "Main Rapper" so her vocals in this subunit is a wake-up call that she is more than just a pretty face and rapping. She is also part of the dance line of RV.
If you're going to check out Red Velvet to know more about these two, it will be an unexpected rollercoaster ride for you. This subunit's concept is very different from Red Velvet. And every Red Velvet concept (every comeback, even the Red concepts and the Velvet concepts, or even every song in their album) is no way same from each other.
Red Velvet's Title in Kpop so far:
"Best Idol Group Alive"
"Summer Queens" or "Summer Bosses"
"Queen of b-side tracks"
"First Kpop Group to perform in North Korea"
"Most Versatile Group"
"Irreplaceable Girl Group"
"Nation's Pride"
Also B-side track queens. Seriously SM gave them such nice songs in their albums. Their discography is the best.
I think the best part of people reacting to red velvet is the shock in their faces when they go from psycho to rookie to red flavor to automatic and then back to zimzalabim, it's hilarious
I thought they were also billboards best idol group alive? Anyways queens
@@melonramune My mistake. I'll edit it. Thanks! 😊
@@bluequeen8022 Truly best part. Doesn't matter if they'll like the songs, what matters are their priceless reactions. That's remarkable! 💖
let's take a moment to appreciate how hansome Jeff looks in every video
Yes. Let’s do just that.
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@@JeffAvenue SKDHSKSK HI 💗
Proudly have been appreciating his visuals in each reaction ✨
How spot on you described their dance styles 😳 Irene‘s dance has always been very fluid and elegant but also very sharp when needed. And she‘s naturally very flexible so getting the angles right seems a bit easier for her. That‘s why tutting fits especially well with her style. However Seulgi is more trained in powerful dances. She also used to do more boygroup kind of dances as a trainee. And she usually puts her own touch on a dance so that‘s where the extra bounce might come from.
But i‘m glad we got a performer‘s view on this dance. I‘ve been waiting for a proper and detailed analysis like this. You got yourself a new subscriber ☺️
This is why SM is a superb agency. They have their own colour while keep trying to blend and create a new colour in every comeback. In terms of concept, SM and Pledis always bring something fresh to the table. Other agency usually stuck with "safe concept", especially with their big, well-known and established group, it becomes boring.
I'm impressed when you analyzed that Irene has ballet training because she did
yesss the irene praise!! she's such a good dancer!!
Irene is the one who's wearing white. And Seulgi, if I'm not mistaken, had a ballet class in the past.
The ending is about their solo MV or the EP 2 (Irene) & EP 3 (Seulgi). The Naughty MV is the part 1. The EP2 was released yesterday. And the EP 3 was delayed and will be release tomorrow at 12NN KST.
“That looks unfinished- that looks like something’s gonna come out”
*That something is staring directly at you 😂😂*
Red Velvet - Irene & Seulgi Episode 2 “IRENE”
Oh 😂😂
I was like “it’s right there” 😂 he didn’t see it
2 months later & still no reaction to ep2 & 3
Can't wait to see some poor trainee learn this on a survival show, I remember a dude having to perform "The 7th Sense" by NCT
Now I badly nee you to react to Psycho, you'll love the vocals aaa
red velvet is truly on their own level. we stan talented and gorgeous trendsetters
omg YES i was waiting for this 😭😭 seulgi is the main dancer of rv but irene really impressed me with her clean movements!! this kind of mature and sophisticated style suits her so well 😭😭 ofc seulgi did a great job as well though ❤️ amazing that they were able to reach this level with only a month (?) of basic tutting training!! love my tutting queens
Seulgi is the main dancer of the group but Irene's isolation and tutting moves are so on point.
what red velvet has offered this time is BEYOND KPOP. periodt
"Tutting is HARD"
THE FACTSSS! I, myself an experienced dancer and pretty much confident in any genre.. but tutting and breakdance. Breakdance is hard since im a girl and dont develop as much muscle as boys unless I want to make it.
But tutting needs soooo much focus, concentration, good hands isolation, and patient. I only have pretty trained hands isolation... but learning tutting got me super tired coz I cant remember the sequences in a short time.
I always excited with red velvet's choreography cut i wanna learn it.
And then naughty released (: I'm not gonna make it.
Props to my girls because they use more than 90% tutting in their choreography :')
Not to mention they need to focus on vocal as well if they do live performances.
Throughout the reaction, I saw that you usually got surprised by how detailed Seulrene's choreography with their hands is. This reminded me of a comment by a youtuber that cover all dance of a group and record them (I think she is called Ploopy or something) , but basically she said, the thing with Red Velvet's choreography is that it has a lot of gesture with their hand and that makes the choreo easy to get, but hard to master
I’m glad you picked up on the ballet-ish style Irene has. She is usually known to be more elegant and smooth while Seulgi is usually known to be sharper and more powerful. What a great pair !!
soooo jeff will you learn it?!? haha
you caught me i was trying to learn it today
i know most of the moves now but it's hard with the tempo of the song
but its reaaally fun~~ irene's verse and bridge parts are fun to do and the second chorus choreo is my favourite part XDD
and you got it right don't worry haha irene's in white and seulgi's in black
Haha nope. Not gonna learn this. Apparently they took 1 month just to learn the basics. Speaks volumes haha
Yesss finally someone who fully appreciates the intricacies of this choreographyyyyy!!!!
This choreography is just so impressive, and the fact that this duo pulled it off so well is insane. I’m especially impressed by Seulgi knowing that she has hyper mobility in her elbows and less flexibility (which I know from experience can make finding angles a nightmare). They’re so dedicated
i think we all agree that 2 words to desc them are: PERFECT DUO
I am amazed by this unique choreo. It`s different from the usual.
Tutting is really a difficult style to execute. Both of them have done a good job in perfectly executing it
When I first saw the music video of Naughty, I really said to my self that "Jeff needs to react to this because I'm sure he'll love the choreography" and here it is..
And..
What I love about watching Jeff's reactions to music vids is I'm just watching to entertain but I'm actually learning too (even though I don't know how to dance) haha
Please react to Red Velvet's "Psycho" Thanks Jeff! More reaction videos to come ❤
Him: I'm sure you all are trying to learn this choreo now huh.
Me: nope I did not just watch a tutorial before watching this video 👁️👄👁️ stop attacking me.
6:33 nahh.. not even trying to.. that shit is too difficult it gives me anxiety just watching it lmao
Me trying this choreography my hands already tangled itself
To me this is the best kpop choreo in 2020 , idk if anyone will be able to top this one
have you listened to Be Natural by them? is so impressive when they dance in the chairs and still manage to sing so good and stable... also, NCT's Taeyong made a feat in that song as well.
boOMIN SYSTEM UP UP~ TY TRACK TY TRACK~
a _pre-debut_ feature, which is why he's credited as "SR14B" (SM Rookie, class of 2014, Boy's division) instead of NCT.
OH I love that you noticed and mentioned those 2 very specific yet almost hard to notice differences in their styles. As someone who trained a long time in ballet and before that did come jazz contemporary and lyrical etc before. I was like, did Irene do ballet because her isolation on her torso and how she moves her arms and legs coordination are creating beautiful lines. Lines and shape are a big thing in ballet. The leg snap u can tell she has great pelvic placement and it's just beautiful!! THAT SAID U SHOULD WATCH THE REMAINING TWO!! Episode 2 Irene and episode 3 uncover sung by Seulgi.
irene in monster and naughty proved that she is not just a visual. she’s a very talented artist and i’m excited for her comeback in August
No one:
Every reactors: I wish the CGI is better in the last scene
Thank you for this video AAAAAAA when this popped on my notifs I immediately clicked bc I really like how you explain things from a performer's perspective
I love the way you react and explain the choreography! It’s so simple but detailed at the same time, and easy to understand too!
And yes it is mainly tutting since they did a lot of shapes by their hands. Some of it looked voguing since the genre got an inspiration from tutting. Tutting is indeed harder than how it looks because symmetry is one point of it and most of us are only dominant in one side. The execution of power and speed on right side should have the same delivery on the other side. Coordination. It's a lot of mental work tbh and imagine doing all of it without the mirror. A horror for beginners.
It took them 1 month to learn the basics and the choreography was completed after 6 months according to their choreographer Shim Jaewon (who is also the choreographer of the iconic pre debut Be Natural performance of the duo, you should definitely check it out) and Spella.
I'm assuming that when they said 6 months, the solo performances of Irene and Seulgi are also included since this Naughty video is just the first episode.
You're right with their names. You're right. You can breathe now haha
I mean, Irene is so flexible and when you guess about bullet studying, it's made my jaw dropping. HOW DO U EVEN KNOW THAT
Forgot to comment before that you were so good at pointing out that Irene (the girl in the white) had ballet training because she really did. She took ballet classes when she was a trainee.
love your reaction, you really paid attention to the details 😭 it would be great if you can react to the continuation of this, episode 2 is irene’s solo while episode 3 is seulgi’s solo performance, ep 2 is out and ep 3 will be released tomorrow 12nn kst!
jeff when i tell you i screamed when i opened youtube and saw this !!! as soon as i watched the MV i said “jeff needs to see this” i’m so glad you actually did 😌
love your commentary so much. I always look forward on your input on your videos.
I been waiting for this. Thanks a lot Jeff ♥️
i love your settings so much
I'm not a rv stan and not really a fan of their dancing but Seulgi and Irene dancing - *chefs kiss* 💅
6:33 no thanks, I like my shoulder in its actual position, but I'm very happy to appreciate it
Me: tutting and vogue is waay out of my comfort zone and I suck at it
Also me: i'm gonna try to learn naughty
Edit: I just remembered that the last time I tried tutting I broke a nail lmao
Hoooow? 😂😂
@@JeffAvenue i excitedly tried to show off the routine i learned to my friend (while she was working in a shop) and hit a tall glass counter straight on 😅
I've been binge-watching your video since last week but I never get bored huhu!!!💙
omg ive been waiting for your reaction !!!
Im so happy that FINALLY people can just swallow the fact that irene is *way* *more* than just a pretty face. She is a talented, hardworking goddess indeed.
Preach!!!
Thank you again Jeff!! ❤️
Just say thank you for given so much content lately uwu it's appreciated
Irene (The girl in the white, you were right) really suited this choreo more than Seulgi, just a little bit because they were both amazing, because of her line. It was clearer and more distinct in comparison with Seulgi who has more bounce in the way she moves. But this choreo is hard af, so they were both amazing 😍👏
Jeff, you really becoming my favorite reactor!!
I just noticed, it's a long reaction compared to his usual reactions and I'M LOVING THIS ♡♡♡
Nice to see it from a Performer's perspective !! You explanation of the levels of difficulty and difference of Irene and Seulgi's dancing styles is Spot on !
Yeeeesss when i watched this i immediately thought that u should react
I was waiting for your reaction since the release because the choreo here is so lit ❤❤
thanks Jeff... i love your honest review...........
Thank u for reacting to Naughty. I really like how you explain about the moves and so on :D It's really good and easy to understand
Can we talk about how pretty their hands are like just damn
Washing hands with Sm water 😂
@@crftieph 🤣🤣
Im so excited for next week they're gonna be doing this live.
Watch it all. It is amazing!
Yea there’s 2 other MVs, Irene’s episode came out already and Seulgi’s episode is coming out soon.
periodddd irene getting recognized for her lines and her dancing is all i needed 😌
This Is SM at it's purest... You can see influences from BoA, SNSD Genie, FX 4 Walls and many other groups... But the styling and the MV and the music, gives a lot of BoA vibes... and the dance is sooo SM. People say SM Choreo is easy. Sure some are, but to pull off something that look easy, and make it look awesome and sophisticated and elegant at the same time takes another kind of Talent. And SM does this. SM loves to be sophisticated, they are trendsetters, the set high standards in kpop. They also revolutionise Kpop but they always stick to what makes and what made SM... Well, SM... Keeping it true to their roots. And you can see that with every group in SM... They started as nothing, "flops" is what people call them... Like, sure... "Flops" that changed Kpop and "flops" that will go down in History as one of the biggest groups in kpop history... And I am grateful I found them, and I stan those "flops"...
I didnt expect Irene can be a Queen of Tutting! Like girl from live shows I saw her dance
Irene the girl in the white. I’ve been a reveluv for 3 years and i also noticed that her dancing has an elegance and grace into it. If she did had a ballet lessons then I’m gonna go crazy.
I agreed with you. I have tried the movementsss. Really hardddd. But, they did it sooo beautifullll
The vogue intro-outro reminds me of Yuri-Seohyun Secret
Omg, loved your reaction, I was waiting for this, also waiting for more shinee in the future
Loved the video! I know I would look like a flailing octopus if I tried this so HUGE props to Seulrene. In addition, a new boy group called E’Last recently debuted and I’d be cool if you got the chance to react to their dance practice of their debut song “Swear”. Based on their live performances I can’t wait to see how they’ll evolve.
This is probably the hardest choreography i've seen so far😫✨
Leant something new with this. Thank you!
I really loveddd people who appreciate their hard work..and know how hard really that choreo. Sorry my bad english. Love your video.
please react to Red Velvet - Irene & Seulgi ‘Naughty’ Episode 2 "IRENE"
learning this choreo, made me grateful for every "big" movements in this piece 😩
I was waiting for this 😔❤️
the choreo and their outfits are incredibly well coordinated
As this is a new dance style for both of them, they learned the basics for tutting for a month. And the choreography for few months too. the DEDICATION tho! ❤👏🔥
Please react also to Irene and Seulgi - Be Natural (pre-debut video). The video that started it all for this duo! 🔥
Also, BE NATURAL official MV by Red Velvet featured pre-debut Taeyong too! 😊❤
yes react to Be Natural (aka an ab workout)
Hana Kim Booming system up up
TY TRACK TY TRACK
i love how you explain everything :)
OMG... This kid is so KYUTEEE!
This is why I love RVV so much. They are so innovative. When I saw the Mv the first time all vouguing and tutting hit me HARD. Like damn girls.
Yesssss! I was waiting for this reaction since I know it's gonna be lit! + the fact that you like precision, synchronization and coordination a lot ... Red Velvet really don't do the same thing twice, a lot of dancers who covers Kpop songs (from what they said in their reactions) already gave up trying to learn this insane choreo T_T so much intricate details uWu
When the Naught video was released I was so excited to see your reaction. I really trust your reaction when it comes to performance like this. Thank you so much! Irene & Seulgi are amazing. They have their own style in dancing. Naughty is Episode 1 and Irene's solo is for Episode 2 released yesterday. Tomorrow they will release Seulgi's Uncover for Episode 3 ❤️
That choreography is sooooo hard. They're amazingg!!