The Sad Disaster of Flight 072 (Gulf Air Flight 072) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

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    At the break of day on August 24th, 2000, the images of wreckage from a passenger plane spread around the world. The most modern and safest of airplanes at the time had just suffered a devastating accident. Fragments of plane were pulled from the waters off the coast of Bahrain in the Middle East. The night before disaster struck Gulf Air Flight 072. The lives of everyone on board were at the mercy of a series of misjudgments and a deadly phenomenon that can lurk in the dark. What happened on that plane, something took the lives of 143 people and today we’re going to uncover what that was.
    #aviation
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  • @DisasterBreakdown
    @DisasterBreakdown  ปีที่แล้ว +93

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    • @pennywaltz4601
      @pennywaltz4601 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Disaster breakdown could you do china airlines flight 140?
      that crash hilighed the combination of poor training and design flaw of the airbus!

    • @nelsonlariccia
      @nelsonlariccia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After EGYPTAIR MS 990 JFK BOEING 767 300ER almost a luxury liner!

    • @davidt8087
      @davidt8087 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude this is what I mean. Why is it in other countries, to become a pilot you literally apply at an airline with zero experience and a few months later your flying a jet? I don't think this teaches pilots anything about aerodynamics or aviation, all they do is teach them to fly the plane at the minimum and a few emergency operations. It's unlikely these pilots would even know why a plane stalls and how to correct it if they don't understand aerodynamics. This will make them think if a plane is falling you keep pulling up to go up and you'll go up, not realizing it's not true. It's ridiculous. In the US, to get hired by an airline, you already need to be a pilot with 1500 flight hours and lots of knowledge and experience. And that only puts you in a small regional airline. But in other countries especially poor ones. The airline makes the pilots and 600 hours is enough to be a first officer on a a320? Wtf?

    • @PaulRehder
      @PaulRehder ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pennywaltz4601 4

    • @metalgearsolidsnake6978
      @metalgearsolidsnake6978 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      spiderman into spiderverse< never fly with airbus/aircrash!

  • @karlepaul6632
    @karlepaul6632 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Unfortunately, it doesn't matter if you have the most perfect, technologically advanced plane in the world, you still have something imperfect flying it.

  • @AviationNut
    @AviationNut ปีที่แล้ว +776

    I have been a captain on the A320 for a little under a year now and the first thing i tell my FO is that if he sees me doing something wrong to not be afraid to call me out on it.

    • @melodiefrances3898
      @melodiefrances3898 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Excellent approach. 👍👍👍

    • @jaydee1160
      @jaydee1160 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Great attitude! That, no doubt, has saved many lives on aircraft that would have crashed otherwise. The big killer on many crashes? Arrogance. Which can come in many forms. Like a copilot beat down where he/she would hardly speak to you out of fear.

    • @ronoconnor8971
      @ronoconnor8971 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Being a pilot myself, you being humble is awesome. Good man

    • @a.h.s5152
      @a.h.s5152 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You all are brave I'm scared of aircraft I'm scared to near them, I would be too scared to fly them, my mom is braver then me she said she use to want to fly ✈ plans. I can fly them well on games but I would be too scared to fly them in real life. ✈️✈️✈️✈️

    • @Lucky7tattooNettahoe
      @Lucky7tattooNettahoe ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Smart boss!

  • @anthonyellsmore4532
    @anthonyellsmore4532 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I've watched so many crash investigation programs and I can't believe how many times ground proximity warnings and other safety systems are ignored

    • @dfeuer
      @dfeuer ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Mentour Pilot has explained that when people get overloaded, they stop noticing sounds, like GPWS warnings. I think planes should be redesigned to be sure to give prominent visual indications of such important things.

    • @beenaplumber8379
      @beenaplumber8379 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dfeuer GPWS alerts can be false alarms caused by all kinds of things. I heard them all the time when I flew jumpseat as a dispatcher many years ago, and never once was there a reason for concern. It always seemed to be an annoyance, especially in clear weather when the crew were fully aware of their height and what they were doing. It's extremely prominent as it is. (PULL UP! PULL UP! WHOOP! WHOOP! PULL UP! PULL UP!!!) It's extremely loud and jarring, and if pilots want to function well enough to land a plane safely with that thing constantly blasting, they need to be able to tune it out. It just gets lost when the pilots are busy, when it's almost never an operational issue. Maybe things are better now, but this crash happened not long after I left dispatch.

    • @jenplinguist
      @jenplinguist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I had some alarm, for example, inside of my front door when I opened it blaring out "Don't forget your keys, don't forget your keys" I would most likely forget my keys because it's so distracting and annoying!@@beenaplumber8379

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​Visual might not be better. It would have to be wherever the attention is at that moment

    • @SunshineArt
      @SunshineArt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I feel like the warning should call out the distance to the ground, And if they do nothing it should pull the nose up, even just gently, Just enough to maintain the altitude there on
      Obviously if the pilot is pushing past that it may not help
      But at least if the pilot is distracted the plane doesn't go any lower

  • @aldenconsolver3428
    @aldenconsolver3428 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    You did well on this, and managed to effectively described the almost unworldly view that darkness and acceleration can create.

    • @Darkkfated
      @Darkkfated 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mmm hmm. Without a frame of reference, acceleration and gravity can feel identical. Tragedies like this are why pilots are trained to trust their instruments and ignore what they "feel" - the human inner ear can be a fickle beast, especially when weather conditions do not allow us to see the horizon.

  • @anasmaaz5731
    @anasmaaz5731 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    When you hit TOGA (Takeoff Go Around) thrust in a jet aircraft things happen real quick. Both pilots need to be on top of their game. In this case, the F/O should have called out and moved the flaps as the aircraft went above the flap retraction speed. This could have unloaded the captain. Lack of experience might be the reason for his passive behavior.
    I remember my very first go around in a very lightly loaded A320 at night in heavy rain. It just shot up to the sky like a rocket. In such situations you better stick your eyes to the instruments. The pitch up effect you feel is extreme.

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      To be fair I was wondering about that while I was watching the part about the go around. “Wait a minute if the captain is pilot flying then shouldn’t the first officer be the one handling the flaps and announcing that he’s doing so? Isn’t that part of what pilot monitoring does?” I guess I’m learning.
      From the perspective of a ramper the first go around I recall seeing… or perhaps hearing in person was a little KLM Embraer cityhopper. We were getting into position for it and I’ve kept track of it via the airport app so I know it’s on finals. Even with my back turned I knew what was happening as the engines started screaming. We were all new and most of the team was like “why’s it going back up with the landing gear out?” Cue my explaining what one was. Fun times.

    • @melodiefrances3898
      @melodiefrances3898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your post. It helps partly explain.
      You just would hope the pilot would have been trained about this, ahem ...

  • @rpcombats2283
    @rpcombats2283 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Damn, Chloe's voice is so calming, therapeutic and friendly. A very talented narrator and storyteller as well. She can be a perfect fit for narrating children shows and storybooks too.

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Don't give me ideas :)
      Thanks for your kind words!

    • @skunkrat01
      @skunkrat01 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Sorry, I know this isn't what you meant, but my mind cut straight to Chloe saying "good morning children. Today we'll be learning about why Gulf Air flight 072 crashed into the ocean, killing everyone on board.
      *Five minutes later*
      And then the pilot turned the corner very fast and his head went all whoopsie daisies".
      😅

    • @animekid2979
      @animekid2979 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I absolutely agree, she should be a audiobook narrator or something!

    • @discospaghetti6744
      @discospaghetti6744 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Wait, it's narrated by a woman?? All these years I thought it was a dude damn.

    • @skunkrat01
      @skunkrat01 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@discospaghetti6744 Chloe is a trans- woman. Just wanna reply quick so you can delete if you want. No judgement here, she never said her name before or after coming out and I didn't know til people started talking about it in the comments

  • @stephanieparker1250
    @stephanieparker1250 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Always breaks my heart when lives are lost, but I also feel very sad for young pilots, just barely into their career. They had dreams, their whole life ahead of them, excitement of getting to fly, most likely trying to provide for a young family… then just gone. 😔💔

  • @Girish3597
    @Girish3597 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I lived in Bahrain for so many years , I used to travel with Gulf Air to my home town mostly by A320 or A321.
    They are improved airline since the new management took over.

    • @Aayannnnn
      @Aayannnnn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m going in October and I’m scared now bcs of this vid 😭😭

  • @Tikibunss
    @Tikibunss ปีที่แล้ว +82

    As soon as you said something about an illusion, my heart sank. It just goes to show that anyone can fall victim to something like that no matter the experience. Great video as always, Chloe.

    • @ayanomar1408
      @ayanomar1408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was just reading about this problem, when Pilots cant tell the sky from the ground and it is so scary!

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's two parts to the illusion issue...
      1. It's your senses that you can't trust. In spite of all the training and practice in simulators (which are designed entirely to fool your senses for a "more realistic" experience) you're still trying to over-ride the instinctive need and drive to trust what your eyes see, your inner ears (balance) feel, and what your brain puts together as a mental picture of both, interpolated... You've ALWAYS got more time and experience relying on your internal senses and sensations...
      2. You don't even need to be "completely fooled" by the illusion, either. It just takes a few seconds while you slip through the stages of "What the F*ck is going on".. to "This can't possibly be what it feels like if my instruments are true"...
      Aircraft don't exactly have "brakes" so fast or slow, you're GOING forward, and gravity ALWAYS wins. Fight as long as you like and you're still coming down to the ground. There's no reverse either, not in the air... SO all it takes is a few more seconds of "OMG" and even the most seasoned and recoverable among us is going to have too little and too late to save the plane... and then it's all over.
      Experience CAN help, but it makes no guarantees. ;o)

    • @kittyhawk9707
      @kittyhawk9707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you have to trust the instruments on the aircraft in that situation .. warning horns are there for a damn good reason .. Pilots should never ignore them and think they know best

  • @Romeojulietless
    @Romeojulietless ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Great work Chloe 👋. I actually live in Bahrain and remember very well how this accident impacted so many lives here. Almost everyone knew someone who was on that flight. One of the victims was a friend and a neighbor. Sad times they were.
    I also knew of the Captain, he had a reputation for being a bit stubborn. I believe the CVR revealed that the atmosphere in the cockpit was not very cordial, with the FO being on the receiving end of few harsh words.
    May God rest their souls in peace 🤲

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Anno Kitsune They try to call the guy running the channel "Chloe" because they want to convince themselves that he's a woman.

    • @josephconnor2310
      @josephconnor2310 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for sharing.

    • @fijiwow5447
      @fijiwow5447 ปีที่แล้ว

      This captain is now circling over an erupting volcano and about to dive in.
      He can try to fly out while burning in hell !

  • @spxncxraviation
    @spxncxraviation ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It's early on the morning and you best believe im watching this whole thing. Video quality on this channel is just outstanding. Keep it up.

  • @alibuolayyan9038
    @alibuolayyan9038 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Gulf Air in 2000 was not owned by Bahrain only. Rather, it was with the participation of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, the State of Qatar and the Sultanate of Oman. The full ownership of the company became Bahrain in 2007 after the aforementioned countries gradually withdrew from ownership of the company

  • @amandas1016
    @amandas1016 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I worked for GF as cabin crew in the 80s and 90s and always felt safe with the flight crews. I knew the captain of this fatal flight well (RIP) he came through the ranks very quickly from a flight engineer on the Lockheed Tristar to a 2nd officer on Boeing 767s and then Captain on A320s I had left by the time of this accident It's was so sad to hear the news of this air crash and i was totally shocked to hear that my friend was possibly the cause of the loss of life.

    • @Judy-xl4of
      @Judy-xl4of 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I worked for Gulf Air same time as you. The Captain’s wife was Irish and joined shortly before I did. Most of us felt many of the locals were pushed through their training when perhaps they shouldn’t have been. Many tri star engineers shouldn’t have been pilots. Like you, I knew many of the crew on board that flight, one crew member flying back to Bahrain from days off in Cairo had managed to get the last cockpit jump seat, I had flown with her several times. Heartbreaking. The captain and his wife had young children.

  • @hueginvieny7959
    @hueginvieny7959 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Flying at night over water can get scary fast. At night you can tell how high above the water you are and you can become disoriented very fast when turning and leveling off. I will always remember the first time i flew a patter that took me out over the ocean on my down wind leg when I turned for base I had a few seconds of panic when I realized I couldn't tell my altitude or pitch even turning final when you see the airport it's had to judge distances and it's like your defending into a black hole

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Obviously

    • @burningphoneix
      @burningphoneix ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I once heard a story of a guy doing jet fighter training at night with no moon over the sea and didn't realize he was flying upside down for like 5 minutes

    • @bigballz4u
      @bigballz4u ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep but you gotta maintain self-defending no matter how inevitable going into the black hole is.

    • @Cynsham
      @Cynsham ปีที่แล้ว

      It's very easy to get disoriented but this is why you're supposed to trust your instruments in those cases

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cynsham why he didn't

  • @bravetoss
    @bravetoss ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Illusion or not, IFR pilots are trained to trust their instruments, even when inner ear tells them something different. I don't understand what was going through his head.

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Precisely. At the moment he mentioned the absence of the horizon, I was looking at the attitude indicator. And if you don’t believe that, why are neither the altimeter or vertical speed indicator changing? If you suspect instrument failure, look at one driven separately, I.e. the gyro driven artificial horizon, vs the pressure driven altimeter, or even at that height, the radio altimeter.

    • @desitterspace10101
      @desitterspace10101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, my father was an A330/340 skipper with Gulf Air, before moving to the 744 with Singapore Airlines. He did bring up a good point (I've only flown a C172) The A320 is extremely overpowered, it had burnt off fuel from the trip, toga thrust at light weight is extreme, somatogravic illusion will be intense at night with no visual cues. You can only train to trust the instruments, but the sim cannot train you for the feeling.

  • @skunkrat01
    @skunkrat01 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Brilliant work as usual Chloe! You're the A grade for plane crash TH-cam channels.
    There are more than a few, but you do it better.

    • @anthonyspain7629
      @anthonyspain7629 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like Mentour pilot as well

    • @southpakrules
      @southpakrules ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not by a long shot. C+ at best, D- as average. Still (mostly) watchable.

    • @skunkrat01
      @skunkrat01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please leave your channel suggestions, so we may properly discuss@@southpakrules
      I do not think I will have a complete change of mind, but at the worst I'll get some new channels to watch.
      Obviously cannot be channels for actual TV/streaming.

  • @IntrovertedOreo
    @IntrovertedOreo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh wow, that's like driving down a dark highway at night with the headlights off, and that's already scary enough, let alone having it happen on a plane!

    • @peerpaulin8486
      @peerpaulin8486 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats not the same at all. You have your instruments telling you all you need to know. And the GPS is showing you exactly where you are. Once you are aligned with the runway direction the autopilot is flying the plane right to the runway. It's just when you leave that envelope due to problems it becomes visible if the pilots are able to really fly the airplane.
      Two pilots mean that one is on duty to monitor the instruments while the other is flying the plane. It all has just not be done here.

  • @hannahp1108
    @hannahp1108 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The CVR recording from this sounds like it must be hugely baffling and fascinating

  • @dodoubleg2356
    @dodoubleg2356 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The brief history lesson on the A320 was a nice touch, really. 😉👍✈️

  • @lukevanwyngaardt6584
    @lukevanwyngaardt6584 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I've been binging your videos since subscribing and have become even more fascinated. Another interesting story as always.

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks, glad you have been enjoying the content.

  • @feltongailey8987
    @feltongailey8987 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    What boggles my mind is that they were able to retrieve all 143+1 fetus. This is incomprehensible to me. One would think that human bodies would be "obliterated" with this amount of force. Hats off to the recovery team.

    • @StreetnastyEntertainment
      @StreetnastyEntertainment ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I stood watch that night and our ship GW team recovered Everyone thinking it was a rescue mission...we didn't find out til the next day that it was actually a recovery mission and everyone on the plane passed. 🙏💯

    • @bm635csi
      @bm635csi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The bodies were in pieces. DNA tests were used to identify the pieces 😢

  • @andrewstevenson118
    @andrewstevenson118 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent work as usual, Chloe. Thanks.

  • @eliamiller9816
    @eliamiller9816 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your voice and the clear explanation of the events. Great job!!

  • @desdicadoric
    @desdicadoric ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Part about the unborn baby really hit me.😢

    • @APR1037
      @APR1037 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes, that was particularly sad to hear. 😢🕊️

    • @KristinCortez
      @KristinCortez ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Me, too; it's just heartbreaking. I can't help but think about the mother's & baby's family. My prayers are with them and all of the victims' families. 💔

    • @desdicadoric
      @desdicadoric ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@KristinCortez amen 🙏 to that

    • @fijiwow5447
      @fijiwow5447 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pale in comparison to the number of abortions, child abandonments & abuse

    • @garishanth
      @garishanth ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🕊️

  • @abdullazizal-barwani8653
    @abdullazizal-barwani8653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was really wishing to see someone covers this incident, Wonderful work 🤙

  • @conor3663
    @conor3663 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always look forward to your uploads, great job as always Chloe

    • @Jabarri74
      @Jabarri74 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm confused. What is Chloe?

    • @kais3297
      @kais3297 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Jabarri74 chloe is the person who makes these videos

    • @aaravtulsyan
      @aaravtulsyan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kais3297 don't think so, it's definitely a guy narrating

    • @kais3297
      @kais3297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aaravtulsyan you can look up her social media linked in the channel

  • @SunayanaSB1998
    @SunayanaSB1998 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent description and your voice is great
    RIP to the ones on board and my heart reaches out to the family members of the victims😢🙏🏻

  • @wespeakforthetrees
    @wespeakforthetrees 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like your presentation. Keep up the great work! My condolences to the dead and their families.

  • @EroKAGEart
    @EroKAGEart ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent work as always Chloe :)

  • @KingLucifer27
    @KingLucifer27 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chloe: I LOVE your shows! I find them relaxing and they (strangely) help me with my ptsd. Any live streams on the radar? I would love to watch a dB video and have you explain/ comment in real time with chat questions.
    Thanks, KL

  • @mohammadhhabashizadeh6644
    @mohammadhhabashizadeh6644 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Accident was one of primary accidents in Date base in terms of factors which were involved Especially in middle east aviation Culture.Thank you very much that You Finally made this imoirtant video for Aviation Community.

  • @GipsyHero95
    @GipsyHero95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for these details. I have been waiting for these details for years. I liked this video👏👍

  • @camillejohnson7035
    @camillejohnson7035 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chloe has the voice that goes well in the description of the impending disaster. Whether that is a plus or minus it still prevails. No matter how advance the manufacturers make aircrafts; the human element is still there. The open dialog about future aircrafts to be design tol be flown with no human factor is in hot debate. However, that will be a difficult pill to swallow at least with Americans.

  • @tomfuelery2905
    @tomfuelery2905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is terrifying that there are so many sub-par and less than smart pilots flying people around in planes.
    Many are just passes along because it's the "nice" thing to do. Or "he has so much experience " he must be good.

  • @paulhart9102
    @paulhart9102 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is one reason I never liked flying unless I was the pilot.

  • @starpupstudio
    @starpupstudio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Chloe for the video (as always)!

  • @mypeeps1965
    @mypeeps1965 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Part of this story sounds like a broken record. New and or inexperienced captain sadled with a newer less experienced 1st officer. Throw in a misunderstanding or lack of understanding of the technology of the plane, situational awareness, crew resources and the swiss cheese is against them before even taking off. Add-in bad weather, and or non traditional approaches, language barriers and you get an ongoing recipe for disaster! BROKEN RECORD.

  • @richarddyasonihc
    @richarddyasonihc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very interesting & informative video - think your videos are the best of all flight video’s I watch. When training for my PPL, I well remember thee spatial disorientation lessons (artificially engaged by my instructor - I only ever rated VFR level of PPL). The lessons were incorporated at my flying school, in case we shoul ever find ourselves caught out by weather or a couple of other circumstances. I wondered when you were going to refer to the ‘flap over speed’ issue, given that all the aeroplanes I flew nearly all had makings on the ASI - including VNR.On a C172 & it’s stablemates, this was 85kias. No airbrakes of course, but I usually slowed the aircraft down to approximately 80kias,during the downwind leg of a circus by applying carburettor heat & reducing revs sharply & raising the nose attitude slightly, then applying 20 degrees of flap before turning base & losing height to turn final at 500ft - naturally, trimming out the aircraft for stable approach, 30 degrees selected on final(some types had 49 decrees available - quite common on C185s. What surprised me, was that Captain didn’t rip these control surfaces off if had attempted to pull up sharply doing in excess of 229 knots.

  • @alan4yt
    @alan4yt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They offered free fun flights when I worked in Bahrain, but they were terrifying, according to those that I spoke to. They often used boac pilots, and when passengers heard the posh British voice welcoming passengers, there was an audible outpouring of relief.

    • @desitterspace10101
      @desitterspace10101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How long ago was this? I was based in Bahrain from the 90's. My Dad was a Captain on the GF 737/767 then moved to the A330/340, I jumpseated a lot before they banned it after the Sept 11th attacks. Flight crew had always been very professional, and my father never complained to us. Some crew did worry about young local pilots being fast tracked, but 20+ years of flying and we had nothing but respect for the pilots from all nationalities.

  • @vietnhannguyen5586
    @vietnhannguyen5586 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Chole. I wanted to see you covering about Aeromexico 498 for quite awhile. Can you consider to do it?

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think I have it lined up to be the next Mid Air collision I'll be covering. So it will be coming!

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lost a friend on this flight, thanks for covering it

  • @robertmcghintheorca49
    @robertmcghintheorca49 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just a side note, the capital of Bahrain is Manama.

  • @jamestyrrell4632
    @jamestyrrell4632 ปีที่แล้ว

    X Gulf air crew ..so I will refrain from commenting on this incident ..I watch all your videos and have worked this route many times with Gulf Air cabin crew. I must compliment you on your professionalism and eloquent voice, such an excellent video, and so detailed.. Thank you and rest in peace both crew and pax,

  • @Redo12able
    @Redo12able ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a young man, I flew commercially thousands of miles for about five years. It seemed the hardest part for me was taking off. I used to sing Steve Miller's "Fly like an Eagle" with my fingers crossed under my thighs to hide them. After that I was a trooper. Lol. Sorry about these folks.

  • @sarahdon3165
    @sarahdon3165 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤ love your videos and I really enjoy how you explain the whole incident and how detailed your explanations are compared to other videos on these aviation incidents and accidents. Thank you so much ❤❤❤

  • @dhepker
    @dhepker 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an excellent video as well as very informative. Thank you again for your research and hard work!

  • @StephenLuke
    @StephenLuke หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    RIP
    To the passengers and crew of Gulf Air Flight 072

  • @senabecool7232
    @senabecool7232 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I remember this from your Community post years ago
    Are you happy you finally found the livery you wanted

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I just decided to make it myself. I couldn't bring myself to use a newer Gulf Air livery

    • @senabecool7232
      @senabecool7232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DisasterBreakdown Also, do you use X-Plane 11 for ur videos or an older one like FSX

  • @hussainalnahash1096
    @hussainalnahash1096 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember when this happened the whole island went to mourning. Our island is so small and most people are either related or friends with one another. May they all rest in peace.

  • @Sushi2735
    @Sushi2735 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a great love for the A-300. As a flight attendant it was the best plane I ever flew on, for 20 yrs. passengers loved it too and always put them in a better mood flying coast to coast. I never remember taking a mechanical delay in one. Weather yes, but mechanical no.
    Air Bus is a great company.

  • @kai990
    @kai990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love how the song title shown in the middle of the video says "fun while it lasted"

  • @mrluckyuncle
    @mrluckyuncle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So hard to imagine not registering what the instruments are showing when you’re looking right at them - somatogravic illusion or not.

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We don’t know if they were looking at the instruments, or if they were, were they really paying attention to them.

    • @mrluckyuncle
      @mrluckyuncle ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Sashazur Indeed... but it makes me wonder what else they could be look at and why? Nothing to be seen through the windows, so why on earth wouldn't your eyes be riveted on the one instruments that shows what you need to know?

  • @rachmunshine9474
    @rachmunshine9474 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t even drive a car in the dark. I can’t even imagine flying a plane in same.

  • @cfl9077
    @cfl9077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks!

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for the Super Thanks. You're too kind, Legend.

  • @aldengal82
    @aldengal82 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Chloe, your channel is terrific. Have watched many
    Airplane disaster videos. However, most wére re-enactments and I really don't need to see people scared as they plummet to the earth or ocean. I'm much more interested in the way you give us some background about the plane involved,then explain what happened, and my favorite part- talking about the investigation into the accident to find cause so that it doesn't happen again.I have only recently discovered your videos and have been binge watching for days. Please do not fret about getting your videos done by a certain day I really don't think anyone cares it's the quality that matters and it takes as long as it takes your material is excellent and I don't want you to shortchange yourself by trying to hurry because we're very happy I'm sure with the way things are going now. Also if I may comment on your other channel I did discover that as well just the other day and when I saw all the songs that you had uploaded I really went and started listening and I couldn't get over your unbelievable voice I mean you are truly fantastic you have such a tone to your voice I could listen to it all day and honestly I have no idea what you were saying in any of your song I was just enjoying listening to you. I hope you will be discovered soon so that everyone will be able to enjoy your music .😁🥰🙃

  • @dcweber1
    @dcweber1 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was in Dhahran, KSA on the evening this happened.
    You can talk about high and fast and go around etc. The real reason this plane splashed is because there was Omani and Bahraini pilots upfront. And neither of them were up to landing the plane that evening. For a long time after this crash, Gulf Air made sure that there was always at least one western pilot, typically British.
    Bahrain was a former British Protectorate. Gulf air also added a lot of British management as well.

  • @alan4yt
    @alan4yt 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is long overdue the multiple individual instruments are intergrated into a pictorial image of the plane as per flight simulator software. The interfaces are in place it can even be done by Bluetooth style linkage.

  • @kuteslekkeropzeg
    @kuteslekkeropzeg ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the calm telling voice.

  • @carolinapersson6146
    @carolinapersson6146 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos. Very interesting!

  • @rimsha8823
    @rimsha8823 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this when I'm going with gulf air in some days

  • @tiluriso
    @tiluriso 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 2006 accident w/ Armavia Flight 967 over The Black Sea on a missed approach to Sochi had similar causes, night time over water, creating spatial disorientation, the acceleration creating somatogravic illusion, leading to CFIT

  • @kareemfaraj4128
    @kareemfaraj4128 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was 2 at the time, me and my mom were traveling from cairo to riyadh, we were at the same terminal as this flight, my mom told me that she was chatting with some passengers from this crash. When we arrived to riyadh, my mom knew of the incident. It was so traumatic to her, she developed phobia from airplanes. She didn't fly in any airplane ever since

  • @wolfgangwust5883
    @wolfgangwust5883 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why the heck did they not go around?

    • @peterwolfik5827
      @peterwolfik5827 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They did, after the 360 turn went wrong, but captain was becoming disoriented and pushed the nose down when the TOGA started

  • @VengefullyQueerDragon
    @VengefullyQueerDragon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chloe you're a talented woman and your content is incredible

  • @raduionescu2711
    @raduionescu2711 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everything runs smoothly until there is some adversity. It’s there where you recognize a good pilot from a mediocre one.

  • @timconn4280
    @timconn4280 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are very informative

  • @alijassim5622
    @alijassim5622 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All people died non-survive. It’s one of the most devastating accident in Bahrain, but that’s not the only thing that crashed some plane crashed here in the 19.s

  • @merc340sr
    @merc340sr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scary. Spatial disorientation of pilots is quite common. I wonder whether anything can be done about this. I feel that I will only take day flights from now on.

  • @nyxqueenofshadows
    @nyxqueenofshadows ปีที่แล้ว

    great video, as always!

  • @starvingartist6754
    @starvingartist6754 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No matter what the cause of a plane crash may be, I've always looked at it as being in the twilight zone, there's always something weirded to me about plane crashes !

  • @HusseinDoha
    @HusseinDoha ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy cow! At (16:52) everything you said about the character of the Fist Officer matches the traits of Omani people in general. I know that, I work with them. They are extremely reserved, shy and non confrontational. So when I heard what you said i screamed “that’s damn right”. Wow!!

  • @irishflyer6377
    @irishflyer6377 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 360 orbit on late final was the key mistake here, after this the pilots where overloaded and lost whatever teamwork they had. The captain should have call a go around much earlier and therefore in a controlled way.

  • @riogrande5761
    @riogrande5761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This appears to be yet another instance of the co-pilot not overriding the captain when he is wrongly flying the plane, for whatever reason. It has happened too many times. What happened to monitoring instruments, which would have shown the actual circumstances.

  • @mariemccann5895
    @mariemccann5895 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work.

  • @timdodd3897
    @timdodd3897 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thanks

  • @LierinLindquist
    @LierinLindquist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact they found a fetus that a woman was pregnant with and ONLY that... really says just how hard of an impact they took. My god... May they all rest in peace. My thoughts and prayers are with the families and loved ones and victims. Absolutely tragic.

  • @Melisblessed
    @Melisblessed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sad. When I see the plane close to landing I get relief. But now I see that anything can still happen. They were right at the airport.

  • @gooner72
    @gooner72 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've heard quite a lot in these aircraft disaster programmes that it's often a cultural thing that stops a younger, less experienced flight crew member from questioning the actions of an older, more experienced captain. Its about showing respect to an elder man.

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, it seems to be more prevalent in Asian cultures, maybe middle eastern as well. Respecting and deferring to your elders is a great way to behave - except when lives are at risk!

    • @fijiwow5447
      @fijiwow5447 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you catch a flight where the 'ole timer pilot takes you to hell together

  • @sarge6870
    @sarge6870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My question, and I have viewed many air crashes related to spatial disorientation, is why do the pilots and FO's ignore the instruments? It seems to me that when they can't see, the instruments would help with their orientation!

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur ปีที่แล้ว

      It comes down to competence and experience. Even the most haphazard training program is going to cover situations that require relying on instruments instead of what your eyes or body are telling you.

  • @davidwheatcroft2797
    @davidwheatcroft2797 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is a classic from the early days of flying fighter jets......the acceleration makes you feel you are climbing to the right, and so people dived in turning left. You MUST rely on your instruments. Not easy. Nearly killed myself in a spiral dive in heavy cloud. Is what killed KFK junior, wife and her sister. Is TERRIFYING! Pulling back just makes things worse. You must NOT panic....."Power back to idle to reduce descent. Roll wings level using Artificial Horizon. Pull hard! Hope......." You have to be STEELY to survive. And fly the next day. CAVU skies, all. We were the cream; the tip of the spear.

  • @ConcordeError404
    @ConcordeError404 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sad really, for an airline that is ACTUALLY decent
    Like, Gulf Air is not your FlyDubai or Qatar Airways sort of airline. It was comfortable and actually not overrated. A brilliant airline, with decent routes. (Fun Fact: Until the mid 2000's Gulf Air was the national carrier of UAE, Oman and Qatar as well)

    • @Massachamp08
      @Massachamp08 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gulf Air seems pretty understated and doesn't attract too much attention like the Emirates, Etihads, and Qatars of the world these days, I kind of like that about them honestly

    • @Castdeath
      @Castdeath ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Massachamp08 what I dislike the most about Emirates vs gulf air is having to go through Dubai’s airport. Dubai’s airport feels like a long maze with long corridors begging you to get lost. I much prefer smaller airport like Newcastle/old Bahrain airports, in fact a part of me is sad they revamped Bahrain’s airport since it’s much bigger now (though nowhere as bad as Dubai).

    • @Massachamp08
      @Massachamp08 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ammar Hasan I always felt as if Emirates were being overglamorized and overexposed, personally

  • @momentomori-rw6jp
    @momentomori-rw6jp ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video!

  • @Tina-d8f
    @Tina-d8f 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative.

  • @mechaishida7588
    @mechaishida7588 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having binge watched aviation disasters for 2 months, I’ve noticed that there appears to be a large number of disasters (quite notable one, with high fatalities) in and around 2000-2001.
    Seems that in aviation history, we see these recurring concentration of disasters in a relatively short period of time.

    • @wavebuilder14udc75
      @wavebuilder14udc75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well keep in mind there may be a screening bias. Meaning a perceived increase in crashes because more crashes from that time are reported on by channels like this or documentaries, while others may be ignored for various reasons like lack of data.

    • @crypton5344
      @crypton5344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe, in 2014 there were also a lot of crashes, mh370, mh17, qz8501, ts222, al5017, sp5915, np183

  • @greymark420
    @greymark420 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand about this illusionary effect, what I don't understand is why in a situation where there is no horizon a crew would not automatically turn to there instrument display, so they could actually determine where they are.

  • @TheAerovons
    @TheAerovons ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why didnt the computers correct the incorrect instructions by the captain?

  • @nagendrathakkar4601
    @nagendrathakkar4601 ปีที่แล้ว

    whenever I watch any disaster , I always feel that there is no guarantee of life.
    It's destiny .

  • @linwoodkent1246
    @linwoodkent1246 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did a great job Mr. Disaster Breakdown. I love your accent (what language),and soft voice it calms me down. Have watched several of your videos, and they are all good but I have never commented before now. My thing-a-ma-gig name says linwood (mans name) but I am not a man.. I'll keep watching but am too poor to send $, sorry. God Bless you and yours, Linda Marie

  • @gunthertoastbrot3738
    @gunthertoastbrot3738 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you are in a cockpit, there is never a reason to not speak out if you feel something is wrong. And how the hell are there pilots, who fly be feel if they have no visual reference? There are Instruments, almost soly built for that occassion. And piolts outside there, if you ever find yourself in a "hot-and- high"-situation, ask for delay vectors, or a holding.

  • @WhisperedHistory
    @WhisperedHistory 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have spent a lot of time in Bahrain and Dammam. I bet the 2 towers can actually see each other

  • @GurpreetSingh-yh3cg
    @GurpreetSingh-yh3cg ปีที่แล้ว

    May there souls 🙏 rest in peace

  • @ronoconnor8971
    @ronoconnor8971 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being on final then doing an orbit to loose speed/altitude? Go around and reshoot the approach. Maybe in a cessna 150, but under ATC in a TCA this is crazy

  • @ImperialDiecast
    @ImperialDiecast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah the first thing i thought of was deploy the airbrakes. or do the missed approach and go TOGA. but a weird nonstandard orbit? what is this, flight simulator?

  • @rmsatlantic
    @rmsatlantic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why did the pilot not notice the huge artificial horizont while diving? it is right next to the digital airspeed indicator, its hard to not notice it

    • @burningphoneix
      @burningphoneix ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a guess on my part but I would believe he would be focusing on the ECAMs in the middle of the flight deck because its the one where the flap warning message would be displayed. There is an artificial horizon next to it but its smaller.

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      More likely he is looking at the numbers and seeing 25 degrees but he’s so overloaded by somatogravic effect that his brain is seeing that as nose up. Thus he’s pushing down.

  • @kennethlee4894
    @kennethlee4894 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. I have not heard of this one. I have lived in Saudi and Bahrain. This has happened quite a bit, this scenario. I remember the crash in Sharm.

  • @themanman165
    @themanman165 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just flew A320 from doha to France last week

  • @moosifer3321
    @moosifer3321 ปีที่แล้ว

    I`m always interested in these Aviation Detective events (tho` a Groundhugger!) and enjoy different `takes` on such occurences, yours being amonGst the best. You got a new Patreon - Where`s the T SHIRTS!!!!!!!!

  • @midwesternmusicreviews3107
    @midwesternmusicreviews3107 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Chloe, could you do a disaster averted on Northwest 188? I think you’ll find it interesting or the Wayne county airport collision.

  • @dandrakenholt5455
    @dandrakenholt5455 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your voice, and vids! Love from a former swedish cabin crew ❤❤❤