Allar seemed to be having fun at the start of the season. He was relaxed. They flat-out destroyed Iowa and I thought this team was on its way. But then Allar seemed to get more and more tentative. We could feel the tension. It seems that Allar forgot that it is a game first and foremost, and it has to be played that way. It is not about being a robot and being perfect. Allar needs a break, and bowl season practice sessions to get his mind back.
Seriously, Iowa sucks, it's bad coaching, fraudulent Franklin destroyed hackenburg, you can't run RPO with a pro style QB. I actually expect Drew to transfer and play for a real coach who can develop a 5 star QB.
Dave, you’re a sportwriting gem, cynical and smartass, well-versed in sports history and minutiae. And turns great phrase. Exactly my kind of sportswriter. Keep it up, man! You guys together are terrific fun.
Dave: "Would I be shocked if Michigan State comes out and stuns Penn State? No." National Media with no axe to grind and who are more in tune with today's college football atmosphere: "Penn State will have no trouble with Michigan State." Final score: Penn State 42 - Michigan State 0. Time to cover Maryland maybe?
It's understandable to not be a fan of a team you are covering, but he is so off putting that he actively dislikes Penn State as he covers them. As a fan, it's been hard to read his constant criticism. I don't need sunshine blown at me, but it'sl like listening to somebody constantly belittling your team....It's tiresome. I'm about done with it, I used to enjoy his writing.
Things change next year in the B1G and thank goodness. The new teams are going to shake up things a lot. The current format is like a bad broken record that keeps playing the same track over and over.
Right. Bowl games are meaningless exhibitions. It's a chance for the 2nd and 3rd team guys to get some experience. Plus the players who show up get some swag. It isn't what it used to be folks.
Who knows these days. It might be Allar who takes off. All we can do is to see who shows up on August 1st ready to play football. Every year is pretty much a new start. Gone are the days of building a team over a 2-3 year period.
I think depending on the huge offensive coordinator hire, will be the determining factor on some of the offensive players, and let's pray 🙏 🤲 we pony up a huge raise for Manny Diaz!!!! Lol WE ARE
as to singleton--isn't that the same sales pitch that awaits altar? finding the o co-ordinator that has the vision to adapt his game to the talents of the players and not forcing the players to adapt to his game plan?
Who in the hell is Altar? Lol And, these two are absolutely idiots!!!! I would hire Urban Meyer in a frickin second!!!! As die hard Nittany Lions 🦁 fans, I guarantee you with the talent and depth we have, Urban Meyer would have beat Michigan or Ohio State, possibly both!!!! If people are naive enough to think that a coach who is a legend, albeit bad person, you can't have both!!!! If we wanted to win 🏆 the whole damn thing, Urban Meyer is the guy who we could throw a brinks truck 🚚 of money 💰 at and win it all!!! WE ARE
Watched you guys a couple times, not a PSU fan but your perspective on PSU and college football is really good. Anyway how can you be a PSU fan , Flyers fan, Phillies fan and also be a Cowboys fan and not the Eagles? How do you have any friends? Lol😂
Strange that you would talk about the NIL in relation to Singleton, but no mention of the fact that after Tucker was fired, MSU CANCELLED all of the NIL deals for their players. Word is that some contracts have been reinstated, but don't you think that fact has had a huge impact on MSU's motivation??
If u look back at Singletons decision one of the selling points for his family was how close PSU is. If it’s all about the NIL $ then show him the door now. He had a slump. It’s not the end of the world. Sad that the NIL has replaced loyalty. Wasted D? Manny is there to fill and replace. He’ll pull it off as long as he’s around
"If it’s all about the NIL $ then show him the door now" To be fair to the players, if the coach is making $6M a year to be the third best team in the B10, surely they deserve a little something to be there. The days of amateurs playing for the glory of their school disappeared decades ago. College Football is almost as big as the NFL with billions of dollars flowing through the door of every conference. As much as I was against it initially, I see the logic of paying the players. Schools are raking in the money, coaches are making millions per year, AD are making millions per year. Everybody is getting rich except.... the players. Since most of them are realistic enough to know only 5% of them will make it to the NFL, they are right to ask for a cut now.
If Pribula can catch a ball, maybe he can be the go-to wide receiver the NL's are missing. He's an exciting player to watch. Think Julian Edelman or Drew Pearson.
I think Dave feels what a lot of Penn State fans feel, that Franklin is a good coach, but not great and Franklin can't get over that hump. Dave would love to cover Penn State winning another national title, like any beat reporter would, but he knows it ain't happening with Franklin as coach. What's the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Guess who recruited this amazing Defense filled with NFL talent? James Franklin. And he will keep bringing in the talent too. And you'll hate every minute, Jones. 10-2 isn't a waste, its one of the top seasons in school history. In 130 years of PSU football, how many seasons have beaten 10-2?
How can you say you just became a PSU fan or you’re young without saying it. Yet for your knowledge 24 times they went 10-2 or better since 1968 because back before that they only played 11 games or less. That’s 43% in the last 55 years if you’re counting.
Dave, why are you so harsh? I know your job is to evaluate and critic, but wow, you choose harsh words and phrases. It seems like you have a personal issue with Coach Franklin. Very little respect and lots of harsh words for him. It almost seems like you should be covering a different team where you like them and their staff. I can't watch this anymore. Just too negative.
Agreed, I feel the same way. It's so tiresome. As a fan, I don't want to hear from a hater every week. We are a legitimate top 10 team, I'd say there's only 5 teams in the country that can beat us, and he acts like Franklin is a loser and Penn State sucks. You know what Dave, maybe YOU suck?
For all of you Franklinites, boo hoo. Maybe you haven’t heard but the criticism is now on the national level as well. Years of the talk of; “from good to elite”, getting one of the most undeserved extensions as Barbour goes out the door, the billion plus spent or allocated to make the program elite and when he has the most talented team in his tenure; he lays two eggs in the games he’s been clamoring to go from good to elite. He deserves the criticism. I’m hoping as the vitriol gets worse, Franklin readjusts and learns from his big game mistakes. Unfortunately he’s been like this for a decade and the saying “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks” was made for a reason.
Because he is retiring at the end of the year. He’s done, and that’s okay! He’s given many many years of his life to covering this team- but he is done.
I kind of doubt it. He only has one more year at PSU, and then off to the NFL. The NFL knows what his athletic ability is. Singleton doesn't have to prove anything. Singleton will not be beaten up at PSU next year. He will be fresh for the NFL.
@@georgesealy4706 He'll want to go first round or at worst, high 2nd. With his terrible sophomore year, he'll be a 3rd to 4th rounder. Plus, he has no idea who the new OC will be, and the O Line and receivers have been a problem blocking runs properly.
@@teekay_1 Singleton will blow out the combine with special numbers. It's all about athletic ability and speed. NFL scouts look at those numbers more so than on the field numbers. They will project Singleton into THEIR offense and envision what he can do there as opposed to what he did in Franklin's offense. There are a lot of NFL RBs who did squat numbers-wise in college because they played for lousy teams. Yet, there they are.
Whatever people pay to read the stuff these guys write behind a pay wall should go to the NIL fund. They can buy some better players and shut these guys up.
Dave Jones hates his job covering PSU, but maybe isn't talented enough to cover a team he doesnt hate? That's all I can figure. So we fans try to watch this to get some good info, but it's just Jones tearing the team and coaches down every week. I think I'm out.
It's a testament to Franklins character that he even answers questions from Dave Jones anymore. I'd have shut him off months ago, or if coaches are required to interact, it'd definitely be Bill Belechick style YES and NO answers.
Draw is going to transfer, that is his best bet to salvage his talent. History has shown that fraudulent Franklin cannot develop a 5 star pro style QB. The coaching on this team in big games has been terrible. I don't care about the Rose Bowl, about 2016. Franklin has not recruited big boys in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Michigan ran for over 650 yards the last two years. Its not Mannys fault. It's Franklin's fault period. I have said this before, I wonder what coach O'Brian could of done with a full roster especially with a 5 star QB.
Allar seemed to be having fun at the start of the season. He was relaxed. They flat-out destroyed Iowa and I thought this team was on its way. But then Allar seemed to get more and more tentative. We could feel the tension. It seems that Allar forgot that it is a game first and foremost, and it has to be played that way. It is not about being a robot and being perfect. Allar needs a break, and bowl season practice sessions to get his mind back.
"But then Allar seemed to get more and more tentative."
Sounds like a coaching problem, if you think about it.
Seriously, Iowa sucks, it's bad coaching, fraudulent Franklin destroyed hackenburg,
you can't run RPO with a pro style QB. I actually expect Drew to transfer and play for a real coach who can develop a 5 star QB.
He is great against crap. Beau is probably better at college level.
Dave, you’re a sportwriting gem, cynical and smartass, well-versed in sports history and minutiae. And turns great phrase. Exactly my kind of sportswriter. Keep it up, man! You guys together are terrific fun.
Dave: "Would I be shocked if Michigan State comes out and stuns Penn State? No." National Media with no axe to grind and who are more in tune with today's college football atmosphere: "Penn State will have no trouble with Michigan State." Final score: Penn State 42 - Michigan State 0. Time to cover Maryland maybe?
Does Dave ever say anything positive about Penn State? He’s a OSU guy, but really?
Exactly. I've been really turned off by Dave this year. He's so harsh.
It's understandable to not be a fan of a team you are covering, but he is so off putting that he actively dislikes Penn State as he covers them. As a fan, it's been hard to read his constant criticism. I don't need sunshine blown at me, but it'sl like listening to somebody constantly belittling your team....It's tiresome. I'm about done with it, I used to enjoy his writing.
I appreciate honesty. I can take it.
@@buccos2004 then don’t read it then. Boo hoo.
Things change next year in the B1G and thank goodness. The new teams are going to shake up things a lot. The current format is like a bad broken record that keeps playing the same track over and over.
I wonder how many opt outs there will be for their bowl game.
Anybody who has hopes of being drafted in the NFL.
Right. Bowl games are meaningless exhibitions. It's a chance for the 2nd and 3rd team guys to get some experience. Plus the players who show up get some swag. It isn't what it used to be folks.
I would not be surprised to see Beau transfer and start at another D-1 school.
I somehow doubt that, and as a football player you never know what is around the corner.
He loves Penn State, I doubt it.
Levis all over again.
Who knows these days. It might be Allar who takes off. All we can do is to see who shows up on August 1st ready to play football. Every year is pretty much a new start. Gone are the days of building a team over a 2-3 year period.
I think depending on the huge offensive coordinator hire, will be the determining factor on some of the offensive players, and let's pray 🙏 🤲 we pony up a huge raise for Manny Diaz!!!! Lol WE ARE
as to singleton--isn't that the same sales pitch that awaits altar? finding the o co-ordinator that has the vision to adapt his game to the talents of the players and not forcing the players to adapt to his game plan?
Who in the hell is Altar? Lol
And, these two are absolutely idiots!!!! I would hire Urban Meyer in a frickin second!!!! As die hard Nittany Lions 🦁 fans, I guarantee you with the talent and depth we have, Urban Meyer would have beat Michigan or Ohio State, possibly both!!!! If people are naive enough to think that a coach who is a legend, albeit bad person, you can't have both!!!! If we wanted to win 🏆 the whole damn thing, Urban Meyer is the guy who we could throw a brinks truck 🚚 of money 💰 at and win it all!!! WE ARE
Southern teams playing up north assume
1. one or more seads #5,6,7,8 are nothern
2. one or more seeds #9,10,11,12 are southern
Yup, it will be infrequent. But I can’t wait until it happens.
Watched you guys a couple times, not a PSU fan but your perspective on PSU and college football is really good. Anyway how can you be a PSU fan , Flyers fan, Phillies fan and also be a Cowboys fan and not the Eagles? How do you have any friends? Lol😂
I’m a Red Sox fan, PSU fan, Buccaneers fan, and Sixers fan.
Strange that you would talk about the NIL in relation to Singleton, but no mention of the fact that after Tucker was fired, MSU CANCELLED all of the NIL deals for their players. Word is that some contracts have been reinstated, but don't you think that fact has had a huge impact on MSU's motivation??
If u look back at Singletons decision one of the selling points for his family was how close PSU is. If it’s all about the NIL $ then show him the door now. He had a slump. It’s not the end of the world. Sad that the NIL has replaced loyalty.
Wasted D? Manny is there to fill and replace. He’ll pull it off as long as he’s around
"If it’s all about the NIL $ then show him the door now"
To be fair to the players, if the coach is making $6M a year to be the third best team in the B10, surely they deserve a little something to be there.
The days of amateurs playing for the glory of their school disappeared decades ago. College Football is almost as big as the NFL with billions of dollars flowing through the door of every conference.
As much as I was against it initially, I see the logic of paying the players. Schools are raking in the money, coaches are making millions per year, AD are making millions per year. Everybody is getting rich except.... the players. Since most of them are realistic enough to know only 5% of them will make it to the NFL, they are right to ask for a cut now.
If Pribula can catch a ball, maybe he can be the go-to wide receiver the NL's are missing. He's an exciting player to watch. Think Julian Edelman or Drew Pearson.
If you played Beau, you probably win both MU and OSU games.
I think Dave feels what a lot of Penn State fans feel, that Franklin is a good coach, but not great and Franklin can't get over that hump. Dave would love to cover Penn State winning another national title, like any beat reporter would, but he knows it ain't happening with Franklin as coach. What's the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Mich St is awful. They defeated Indiana (3-8) and Nebraska (5-6)? Whoopee! Agree that the PSU offense needs to experiment.
Guess who recruited this amazing Defense filled with NFL talent? James Franklin. And he will keep bringing in the talent too. And you'll hate every minute, Jones. 10-2 isn't a waste, its one of the top seasons in school history. In 130 years of PSU football, how many seasons have beaten 10-2?
How can you say you just became a PSU fan or you’re young without saying it. Yet for your knowledge 24 times they went 10-2 or better since 1968 because back before that they only played 11 games or less. That’s 43% in the last 55 years if you’re counting.
@@phattylav The younger fans have been so conditioned to good teams, that they forget PSU used to have great teams.
Penn State won 10 or more games 21 times, won two national titles and played for four before James Franklin was hired as coach.
Psu vs Wis champ game was very close....Mr Jones wouldn't hire Urban Meyer, cool. No one would hire or listen to Mr Jones abou hiring a head coach.
Why would they hire someone with a track record of making a team #1? What would the Penn State fans complain about then?
Just a couple days till the football portal opens up….i predict 10-14 guys get in the portal, and never look back
Dave, why are you so harsh? I know your job is to evaluate and critic, but wow, you choose harsh words and phrases. It seems like you have a personal issue with Coach Franklin. Very little respect and lots of harsh words for him. It almost seems like you should be covering a different team where you like them and their staff. I can't watch this anymore. Just too negative.
because PSU is a huge bust this year
Agreed, I feel the same way. It's so tiresome. As a fan, I don't want to hear from a hater every week. We are a legitimate top 10 team, I'd say there's only 5 teams in the country that can beat us, and he acts like Franklin is a loser and Penn State sucks. You know what Dave, maybe YOU suck?
@@buccos2004 Well said!
For all of you Franklinites, boo hoo. Maybe you haven’t heard but the criticism is now on the national level as well.
Years of the talk of; “from good to elite”, getting one of the most undeserved extensions as Barbour goes out the door, the billion plus spent or allocated to make the program elite and when he has the most talented team in his tenure; he lays two eggs in the games he’s been clamoring to go from good to elite.
He deserves the criticism. I’m hoping as the vitriol gets worse, Franklin readjusts and learns from his big game mistakes. Unfortunately he’s been like this for a decade and the saying “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks” was made for a reason.
Because he is retiring at the end of the year. He’s done, and that’s okay! He’s given many many years of his life to covering this team- but he is done.
I'll bet someone a cup of coffee Singleton transfers.
agreed.... he won't play second fiddle to KTrain
I kind of doubt it. He only has one more year at PSU, and then off to the NFL. The NFL knows what his athletic ability is. Singleton doesn't have to prove anything. Singleton will not be beaten up at PSU next year. He will be fresh for the NFL.
@@georgesealy4706 He'll want to go first round or at worst, high 2nd. With his terrible sophomore year, he'll be a 3rd to 4th rounder.
Plus, he has no idea who the new OC will be, and the O Line and receivers have been a problem blocking runs properly.
@@teekay_1 Singleton will blow out the combine with special numbers. It's all about athletic ability and speed. NFL scouts look at those numbers more so than on the field numbers. They will project Singleton into THEIR offense and envision what he can do there as opposed to what he did in Franklin's offense. There are a lot of NFL RBs who did squat numbers-wise in college because they played for lousy teams. Yet, there they are.
3 catches isn’t really all Worldly
Franklin is screwing up Allar, another 5 Star QB, first one was Hackenberg.
Man beau is going to Oregon st
As long as they.coninueto play cupcakes,sure
Whatever people pay to read the stuff these guys write behind a pay wall should go to the NIL fund. They can buy some better players and shut these guys up.
Dave Jones hates his job covering PSU, but maybe isn't talented enough to cover a team he doesnt hate? That's all I can figure. So we fans try to watch this to get some good info, but it's just Jones tearing the team and coaches down every week. I think I'm out.
It's a testament to Franklins character that he even answers questions from Dave Jones anymore. I'd have shut him off months ago, or if coaches are required to interact, it'd definitely be Bill Belechick style YES and NO answers.
well, the post game with these two jokers should be good.
Draw is going to transfer, that is his best bet to salvage his talent. History has shown that fraudulent Franklin cannot develop a 5 star pro style QB. The coaching on this team in big games has been terrible. I don't care about the Rose Bowl, about 2016. Franklin has not recruited big boys in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Michigan ran for over 650 yards the last two years. Its not Mannys fault. It's Franklin's fault period. I have said this before, I wonder what coach O'Brian could of done with a full roster especially with a 5 star QB.
Beau is gone
Beau is not going to beat Michigan or OSU; or least he hasn't demonstrated that.
Penn st will lose Friday to msu…. 21-13
Try again!!! 34-13 my Nittany Lions 🦁 will roll comfortably!!!!
@@kevinchandler179I’ll be shocked is MSU scores on Penn State’s defense.
@@kevinchandler179 Couldn’t score as predicted. One of the surest bets I’ve ever made…42-0! 😂
good call dude.