Not a bad idea! Im running the Kiox display on my Focus Jam2, but have moved it from the top of the steerer tube (Yikes! Vulnerable to crashes) to a handlebar clamp that locates the Kiox display to the rear of the left side of the handlebar and close to stem. It's much safer there than on top of the headset. Still a bit of eyesore, and personally I think the new top tube inserts that DJI Amflow have used (and perhaps intended by Bosch for the new Santa Cruz Vala, but not yet available) would be the best bet for getting rid of handlebar clutter while still retaining ride info at a glance.
Well for the comparison I'm looking as far up the track ahead of you as the camera will go so I noticed very little difference. As for size of display you are getting older the eyes are going diminish.............BUT its your bike and you are the one writing the cheques so its really up to you
I did exactly the same on my Bosch powered e-bike for the same reasons as yourself, it has made everything much tidier and provides all the data you require. My complaint with the Purion 200 is the way it mounts in comparison to the LED remote, it does not adjust from left to right which makes it harder to get it in just the right position. Additionally the band that wraps around the handlebars is fragile and is not replaceable when it gets ripped off in a crash, even with its downsides I much prefer the Purion 200.
I wouldn’t have the Kiosk screen, probably get broken next time I bail, the 200 would be nice, but for the money I will stick to the standard remote on my Whyte, I like it simple, plus I’ve usually got my phone in backpack so can look at the flow app if I need to, you guys are looking fast 😊
I have a friend with a Whyte with no screen and he got the Purion 200 for it which is where I got the idea. I could have run with just the controller on the left but given the Purion has a screen, is the same size and looks better I made the change.
My old stem Kiox mounted non smart system and only held on with its magnets , first crash snapped the legs off the rear of the kiox , mended the legs by building new legs and filing them to shape using five second fix, then made a mount to position it behind and just below the bars ,,,,, replaced the led controller on my newer bike smart system with the purion ,,,,much nicer as I wanted a clock lol , only thing i would have liked is the max speed feature but it wasn't a deal breaker
I have a complaint…. For your comparison video, when you showed us the Purion 300 it was easy to see while you were bombing down the trail on your own, but then when you showed us the Purion 200, Zak was in front of you nailing the trail and I was distracted by his incredible riding skills, so I didn’t even look at your “cockpit” 😅
So I have a Strive:On with the Bosch motor and no display and I like the simplicity. I even have the micro controller so no display at all whatsoever. Now I also like to follow maps sometimes and also ride in the dark so I bought a quad lock out front v2 and went for a ride to try it out. Oh also haven’t GoPro mount under the out front mount so can put my light there albeit with an extension piece else it’s too close to the bars and doesn’t fit. Here’s the run… just running the flow app in cadence screen (I was trying out a smaller chainring) and having the screen on all the time. My iPhone battery got almost sucked dry in like 2 hours. That’s clearly not good if your iPhone is your first go to for first aid to call someone. To be clear, My iPhone wasn’t charging from the bike battery. So whilst I thought this could be a good idea I’m unsold on it. Thinking I’ve got a good light mount now but unconvinced of the usefulness of flow app running with screen on all the time.
I have heard people say their phone is nearly dead when out on rides. Personally I almost never connect my phone even though the bike asks me too. I prefer to get constantly lost instead of using a map. Not sure what that says about me.🤔
@@bestdayevermtb2 hahaha I like to get lost and explore too. I think that’s what I love most about the EMTB now to be honest. Not afraid of the shit climb back out of I make a wrong choice.
Can I upgrade my Bosch Purion (it's the basic) one to a smart display the the Bosch Purion 200 so that I can use the Flow app? If not, what are my options given I have a $4000 bike with a Bosch Purion? Thank you.
I believe the Bosch smart system is not compatible with any older models. It is possible to replace the Purion system with a controller and a kiox screen if you want to do that. It is not the smart system, though, and I don't think you can use the flow app. Hope that helps.
I have a kiox 300 like you did right in front of my stem. Then I got a burgtec stem and the kiox was blocking it. I just got a different bracket that moved the kiox to the side , behind the handlebar. On the left I have the bluetooth controller I like the new screen that is coming out with the 5gen bosch. Hope it's compatible with the 4gen
Yes the new screen looks good. I fitted my kiox behind and to the left of the stem on the last bike and did look at that for this one. Decided to try the purion instead and happy with result. Still think a integrated top tube screen is the way to go.
Definitely better wihout that screen, the new setup is an improvement (imho) 👍
Glad you approve 😊
Looks great either way but I much prefer the new set up. I also really like the top cap. My Santa Cruz needs one
The caps were made by Kerikeri mtb club. Not sure if they are still doing them.
Not a bad idea! Im running the Kiox display on my Focus Jam2, but have moved it from the top of the steerer tube (Yikes! Vulnerable to crashes) to a handlebar clamp that locates the Kiox display to the rear of the left side of the handlebar and close to stem. It's much safer there than on top of the headset. Still a bit of eyesore, and personally I think the new top tube inserts that DJI Amflow have used (and perhaps intended by Bosch for the new Santa Cruz Vala, but not yet available) would be the best bet for getting rid of handlebar clutter while still retaining ride info at a glance.
Rocky Mountain and Specialized have some nice options with flat screen on top tube and minimal controls on handle bars.
Well for the comparison I'm looking as far up the track ahead of you as the camera will go so I noticed very little difference. As for size of display you are getting older the eyes are going diminish.............BUT its your bike and you are the one writing the cheques so its really up to you
Personally, I don't look at screens much. I just like a clean looking bike.
Good upgrade, along with ditching the central screen 👍
Glad you approve.
I did exactly the same on my Bosch powered e-bike for the same reasons as yourself, it has made everything much tidier and provides all the data you require. My complaint with the Purion 200 is the way it mounts in comparison to the LED remote, it does not adjust from left to right which makes it harder to get it in just the right position. Additionally the band that wraps around the handlebars is fragile and is not replaceable when it gets ripped off in a crash, even with its downsides I much prefer the Purion 200.
I think Bosch makes great motors but still think they need to work on their controllers and displays.
I wouldn’t have the Kiosk screen, probably get broken next time I bail, the 200 would be nice, but for the money I will stick to the standard remote on my Whyte, I like it simple, plus I’ve usually got my phone in backpack so can look at the flow app if I need to, you guys are looking fast 😊
I have a friend with a Whyte with no screen and he got the Purion 200 for it which is where I got the idea. I could have run with just the controller on the left but given the Purion has a screen, is the same size and looks better I made the change.
@@bestdayevermtb2 Tony ,seniors on E ??
No screen is why I bought a Trek Rail with the frame mounted controller with tiny bar switches...
I think a screen on the frame makes the most sense..
My old stem Kiox mounted non smart system and only held on with its magnets , first crash snapped the legs off the rear of the kiox , mended the legs by building new legs and filing them to shape using five second fix, then made a mount to position it behind and just below the bars ,,,,, replaced the led controller on my newer bike smart system with the purion ,,,,much nicer as I wanted a clock lol , only thing i would have liked is the max speed feature but it wasn't a deal breaker
I think Bosch are working on a screen for the top tube. The DJI bike looks very cool in that department.
I have a complaint….
For your comparison video, when you showed us the Purion 300 it was easy to see while you were bombing down the trail on your own, but then when you showed us the Purion 200, Zak was in front of you nailing the trail and I was distracted by his incredible riding skills, so I didn’t even look at your “cockpit” 😅
I also get distracted by Zaks amazing skills😂
😂 😅 incredible riding skills 🥳
This may surprise you, but sometimes I would spy on how fast you were going. That screen came in handy then :)
I must admit I have freeze framed it before to see what speed I am hitting jumps at.
So I have a Strive:On with the Bosch motor and no display and I like the simplicity. I even have the micro controller so no display at all whatsoever. Now I also like to follow maps sometimes and also ride in the dark so I bought a quad lock out front v2 and went for a ride to try it out. Oh also haven’t GoPro mount under the out front mount so can put my light there albeit with an extension piece else it’s too close to the bars and doesn’t fit. Here’s the run… just running the flow app in cadence screen (I was trying out a smaller chainring) and having the screen on all the time. My iPhone battery got almost sucked dry in like 2 hours. That’s clearly not good if your iPhone is your first go to for first aid to call someone. To be clear, My iPhone wasn’t charging from the bike battery. So whilst I thought this could be a good idea I’m unsold on it. Thinking I’ve got a good light mount now but unconvinced of the usefulness of flow app running with screen on all the time.
Oh and without your display it does look better but now I can’t freeze the video to see how fast your going over the jumps 😂
I have heard people say their phone is nearly dead when out on rides. Personally I almost never connect my phone even though the bike asks me too. I prefer to get constantly lost instead of using a map. Not sure what that says about me.🤔
I have done the same thing.
@@bestdayevermtb2 hahaha I like to get lost and explore too. I think that’s what I love most about the EMTB now to be honest. Not afraid of the shit climb back out of I make a wrong choice.
@jxrxch I agree. I have done rides in Riverhead where I have no idea where I am but just keep going till I pop out on the road.
I couldn't do it, I smash screens on the bars. Less screen to smash I guess. It's very readable though.
Hard to know if more likely to smash screen at stem or near levers. I think levers but time will tell.
@@bestdayevermtb2 The frame behind the stem is good... I could crash less, I guess.
Huge fan of your thumbnail haha
Thanks. Short video but actually quite complicated to film. Glad you liked the thumbnail.
You know I’m a fan 👍
I just copied you.
Less is best totally agree mate 👍
That is what my wife says.😂
😂 it not the size of the wand but the wizard behind it 😉@@bestdayevermtb2
No screen I think it looks much better :) I love ur vids tho 😂
Thanks. Glad you like the videos.
Can I upgrade my Bosch Purion (it's the basic) one to a smart display the the Bosch Purion 200 so that I can use the Flow app? If not, what are my options given I have a $4000 bike with a Bosch Purion? Thank you.
I believe the Bosch smart system is not compatible with any older models. It is possible to replace the Purion system with a controller and a kiox screen if you want to do that. It is not the smart system, though, and I don't think you can use the flow app. Hope that helps.
I have a kiox 300 like you did right in front of my stem. Then I got a burgtec stem and the kiox was blocking it. I just got a different bracket that moved the kiox to the side , behind the handlebar.
On the left I have the bluetooth controller
I like the new screen that is coming out with the 5gen bosch. Hope it's compatible with the 4gen
Yes the new screen looks good. I fitted my kiox behind and to the left of the stem on the last bike and did look at that for this one. Decided to try the purion instead and happy with result. Still think a integrated top tube screen is the way to go.
Shot aww Johnny
Less is best!
New purion is better by far.
Thanks
No screen 📺 looks like steam bike 🚲 screen 📺 looks like e-bike 🪫
I think that is a fair assessment.