The Dark Purpose of Snowpeak Ruins - Zelda Theory
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- Snowpeak Ruins are one of the most mysterious dungeons in the Zelda series. Opulent, fortified, abandoned. Who built them, and why?
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Thanks for watching! What's your own theory on the Snowpeak Ruins? Be sure to check out NBC's video on the City in the Sky too!
(yeah this a reupload, the first one had the wrong audio lol)
More botw pls
frosty the snowman built it
I will check it out right after your amaizing video
I think there are more groups that do the dirty work for the royal family.
Ok
The reason Darknuts have a beetle insignia on their chestplate is obviously because they're being mass produced by Beetle and then being sold to both the royal family and Ganon, what we should really have is a theory on Beetle's shady business tactics
Beedle is way too suspicious. I bet he evades taxes too
OHHHHHHH!
Headcanon accepted!
He’s getting back at Link for not giving him that energetic rhino beetle.
Lord of war: Beetle
I remember back in 2006, the first time I played TP. When I got to snowpeak, I didn't even realize it was a temple until the boss fight started. It's so we'll integrated into the mountain, I thought I was just exploring. I must have missed the map and compass or something, but the boss fight starting and realizing I was in a temple is one of my favorite Zelda memories. The bedroom key was the boss key all along.
Honestly, Snowpeak is my absolute favorite dungeon. Most dungeons have no business existing or being designed the way they are outside of game purposes, but Snowpeak just seamlessly fits into the world where there is no question that it belongs, it is just a question of its history.
@@philosophicaljay3449 I've recently been playing Twilight Princess again. Snow Peak, while I went through the dungeon itself pretty easy, the ice and snow enemies it had were actually a challenge for me. In my most recent play through I have walked through enemies like they aren't there, the sword gameplay in TP is pretty addicting and I have learned all but one of the hidden skills and I put them to use frequently. But the snow enemies actually managed to get me down two hearts! Something not even the foes in arbiters grounds were able to do! I found that to be quite entertaining as the enemies in the other dungeons were almost too easy lol. I'm in the Temple of Time now :)
At what point does getting a “dungeon map” not make it clear that you’re in a dungeon 😂
@RoiBoi he missed the map and compass did you not read the comment?
Lord Felidae they said they “must have”. Not “they did miss the map and compass”
“In twilight princess they are at their strongest” *queue footage of link absolutely decimating one*
I mean link is literally a one man army
Well it's just link being link
I mean, it's not like that's any different than usual. Link literally lives to kill monsters and evil.
I hope Darknuts are in Botw 2 and harder or at least more common than Lynels. We don’t have enough humanoid or elite warrior-like enemies in Botw. Most of them fight very crudely or are too inhuman to really make a comparison, like Lynels. Darknuts, Dark Link, more humanoid fighters that give Link a challenge through 1 on 1 combat. Maybe even have variants that use spears or hammers or axes or even one with a bow. Food for thought.
They lasted longer than most, give them credit.
I was expecting everything to be spelled out as it usually is in a Zeltik video, but I like that this one simply offers a series of possiblities. This place continues to be one of the biggest mysteries in the series.
This video made me rethink my whole life over a seemingly unimportant detail lmao
I watched this video like 3 months ago. And your comment was still the top. So I decided to check out your videos as well, and shit, CZsWorld and Zeltik are some of my favorites.
@CZsWorld I didn’t know emo Abraham Lincoln was a Zeltik fan 🤣 Nice to know we have more in common
@@StephieRenee1989 LMAOOOO no fr I was like Czs??! 🤣
the Mansion is surprisingly home-ish and welcoming..
Aside from 1. being percariously perched on a narrow rock who's bridge could theoretically crumble and 2. the isolation from everyone else, i'd almost live there.. Talk about a party lol It's huge, you could be a millionaire off monthly rent fees alone AND treat everyone to pizza and beer.... And LonLon Liqueurs of course =)
I have to say, I was not prepared for the impressive cinematography in this video. I haven't even finished, and I already love this video.
same :)
I just get annoyed by his hella extra intros to his videos. He just spams adjectives, and always says “OnE oF tHe bIGgESt MySTerIeS iN THE ZELDA sErIeS” for literally every video. When you just watch a single video, it’s fine. But he literally does it every time and he thinks that adding fancy words and cinematic intros makes it better. I just see right through it, and it gets old. It’s just doing too much. Just get to the video
@@slackstarfish8133 who hurt you as a child?
@@slackstarfish8133 He didn't say that in this video though XD
@@Klied Someone that used a lot of adjectives, for sure.😂
If I could play any Zelda game on Switch except BotW, I would play Twilight Princess. It has juicy lore, nice gameplay and of course a great plot.
AlphaC0re _ well said. I agree.
I found something that says you can
Mia Gomes huh???
Yep
Yeah the only thing i dont like about it is how easy it is...i think i never even died in that game...
If large dangerous lizards were supposed to wear those suits of armor then it would make sense that the mansion would be placed in a part of the world where it would be hard for a reptile to survive on its own outside of the mansion walls. Not many reptiles are suited for such freezing and harsh conditions. If one were to somehow escape then it would definitely die within a day, insuring that nobody would ever find out what was happening there.
Next up on Zeltic:
The DARK purpose behind MALO MART
Kishibe Rohan
All at the age of 1 😂
@@sorikaiwolf8955 Isn't he like ... 4?
Malo ranting about the “unwashed masses” was a bit like...kid! You have a dirt floor home!!!
@Kishibe Rohan rohan what are you doing here
we already know the dark purpose. it's capitalism.
I've always loved the Snowpeak ruins. The atmosphere in this building is one of my favorite kinds of atmospheres of any setting. It gives that creepy feeling upfront. Everything is so nice looking, but its abandoned, and simply falling apart due to its age. You'd expect this kind of "cozy" setting to be flipped on its head at any moment, like learning that it's haunted or that monsters lurk everywhere. While Snowpeak Ruins does that to a degree, for most of the dungeon, it just shows a cold and desolate mansion, left to the peace of age to be inevitably forgotten. It gives that sense of morbid peace, you know that something terrible happened to this place in the past, but now that's over and it's quiet and peaceful.
@Joocy Really? What dungeon mechanics of Snowpeak Ruins do you not like?
@Joocy The thing is, it does meet the requirements of a standard dungeon, like having puzzles, combat, a mini-boss, a Boss, and good length. I think the reason it's loved so well is because it can be framed as a dungeon, yet doesn't feel like one. Also, you have to collect stuff in other dungeons, like Poes in the Ocarina Forest Temple, or the sols in the Palace of Twilight, so I don't really see the issue there, particularly because it's one of the most entertaining "Collect certain items to continue" style dungeon.
I agree with Skyler
#1: It has a dungeon map called “Dungeon Map”
#2: It has a mini boss, boss, and a treasure you get at the end, which is what a normal dungeon contains.
#3: You have to go though a series of puzzles to get to each place.
#4: It has many rooms, and in which are many monsters.
#5: There’s a compass to the dungeon, like there is in a lot of LoZ games.
#6: There’s a special tool you have to get and use to defeat the boss.
Yeah, I think it’s a dungeon @Joocy
A dungeon is a series of rooms/puzzles that one has to complete to find a certain item/place, and throughout the puzzles there are mini bosses that sometimes give you the item that is key to defeating the main boss. And, to get/get to the item, you must defeat the boss, which normally has a large life force or doesn’t and just has a barrier or something similar to one. To defeat the boss, one sometimes needs a certain weapon, like in this dungeon where Link needs the ball and chain, which he gets from the mini boss Darkhammer. Once the character defeats the main boss of the dungeon, then you get the item your looking for most of the time. What I mean by most of the time is that sometimes other characters say to go here to get something but it’s not there, like in this dungeon. In this dungeon, The yeti sends you to puzzles all around the map to find the key, but after a while you find it
It’s just the vacation home for whomever lived in the Forest Temple of OoT
Lmao
There is a theory that the Poe's Sisters, the miniboss that have names, originally owned the mansion. The theory goes they were murdered during the Hyrulean civil war, cursing the Temple/Mansion. Ganondorf took advantage of this during the adult timeline, and used the cursed Poe's spirits to lure Saria into the temple. Food for thought.
TheHylianBogatyr Lmao nice
XD
Corey Coleman interesting is there a video in this theory ?
"It's unlike any mountain I've ever known." Can be an iffy sentence to interpret. It could mean that she's been to other mountains, and thinks that Snowpeak was just the harshest. But it could also mean your interpretation I guess.
Agreed.
I thought the exact same thing
To me it seems like she must know it well to make a statement like that, so if anything I feel it makes it more likely she's at least familiar with the area and possibly the mansion itself
"Unlike any mountain I've ever known," still leaves open the implication that she was from/did live there. It can still be unimaginably dangerous, enigmatic, and unique, not only to those unfamiliar with the region, but also those well-accustomed to mountain living.
In the manga, she said it was once her house, but since the manga isn't canon, we have to take that with a grain of salt.
I recently had a friend take a look at the Japanese, and it translates as this -
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ハイラルの北の山、スノーピーク・・・あれは私の知るような山とは違う
“Snowpeak, Hyrule's northern mountain… The place is different than the mountain I knew.”
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This strengthens the implication that Ashei knows about this mountain, but that it's become unrecognizable to her. I think it's very likely Snowpeak was her home.
I love how pretty much every Zelda theory ends with “it’s possible that none of this is connected in any way”. It’s all so ambiguous and I love it.
Some are too well-argued and combined with enough evidence to prove it all but officially confirmed in my eyes. Recent ones I've seen like Midna temporarily getting Zelda's Triforce piece, or the Death Sword being TP's Phantom Ganon are too logical not to be true.
Nah.
Legit 98.99% of Zelda Lore is only there for Rule of Cool, and never followed up on canonically *aka within the actual games* (or if it is, it’s usually a halfhearted bandaid to maintain the Status Quo)
...yet the so-called monsters having always been sapient and having their own culture even when they’re NOT begging Link to not kill them (and even the “monster” species of Zora having their own *Sage* ) is “nuuu the hylians can’t be fascists and racists...even with the Non Monsters dealing with genocide and oppression canonically~”
Nintendo will never have the guts to actually outright address THAT Theme despite it not even being a subtext thing from the very start (and neither will the majority of Zelda Theorists. Despite...for once there being OVERWHELMING evidence in almost every installment of this being the case)
Why is being really ambiguous a brilliant thing? I like a good mystery and all, but if there's no hints given on what is or isn't the case, then there tends to be little substance for us to enjoy.
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That's exactly what I said. If there's no hints given, there's no fuel for our imagination in figuring out a mystery. If it's too ambiguous, we might as well be making up everything ourselves, effectively doing what the writers should have done to begin with. On the opposite end, if everything was given to us, we wouldn't become so curious or invested in what may or may not be the case in such and such a story. But even when we do know everything, that doesn't mean there's nothing worth thinking about. Sometimes that's what's necessary for telling a story and provides a lot of material for us to enjoy. It's great being able to analyze why something in the narrative works the way it does to express a message or evoke a feeling or convey an ideology. There's tons of stories that don't have much mystery to them but are fascinating to think about for generations. If every story was filled to the brim with nothing but mysteries, it would only ever be just trying to know what's unknown without providing much food for thought because of a lack of a definitive answer. Not to mention that it's just not for everyone; some people don't want to have to go out of their way just to figure out something in order to be told a story. That's asking them to do most of the work that the writer should have done. Mysteries are great and important for a lot of stories, but they're only one side of the coin in how much info you give or don't give an audience.
6:12. "It's unlike any mountain I've ever known.' meaning she can't have been raised there.". That actually is plausible she lived there. It showed that she has visited other places, and that to her, no other place is like Snowpeak.
My thoughts exactly
Yeah i still think the training Academy theory makes the most sence...the symbol could be the symbol of a division of the Hyrule army that trained there. Even today many special forces train in the mountains. In addition to the training they made experiments with lizalfos there...
I just saw this comment after I posted the same idea lol
Exactly!
Hei Bk-201
...not to mention that the state of the ruin isn’t nearly as old as you might think. That environment would be incredibly harsh on a structure without near-constant maintenance, yet the fibers and paintings and exposed wood are still mostly intact. Most of the damage is from the roof caving in, which, duh, it’s a blizzard-prone mountain. Snow is HEAVY
If you'll notice, the Darknuts (or, the one in the Temple of Time, at least) initially have the same stance as the Hero's Shade. That could be a reuse of assets, which is very likely, or it could be more. They also do the Shield Attack, which is supposedly a hidden skill used by the Hero-but-not-actually-a-hero-in-this-timeline of Time. Were they trying to create a clone of him?
That's a good idea, and maybe they were genetically engineered to be taller and stronger as well.
Or maybe they're actually his students who were taught the hidden skills?
Knights made to be exactly as the hero of legend...
The royal family tried to make a perfect clone of their latest hero...
@@doverboy1 It's not far-fetched either, BotW had the royal family attempt to duplicate the Master Sword (which we see in the Royal Guard swords)
It's probably just a stance of knight sword fighting , or Maybe the shade hero founded an special order of knights .
I love how this LoZ theory community is so closely interlaced they can casually rely on each other for footage and support and IT STILL WORKS.
The manor could also have belonged to old nobility that eventually married into the royal family and abandoned it to move into the more convenient and habitable hyrule castle. Thats why zelda has the crest in her room, it could have belonged to one of her parents or grandparents family before becoming royals.
I also find it weird that reptiles would be found in such a cold environment sense you know... they're cold blooded. but hey i guess thats just video game logic for you.
Well, there are the Ice Lizalfos in other games. That could have been a base
@@Icalasari There's that I also thought it was weird that they would have lizardfolk training there but if as Zelik postulated they were creating the race and even had to cage them at time it would make sense to put the facility there as any that escaped would freeze to death.
Or they could be evolved from Dodongos.
Reptilian in appearance but technically warmblooded
Kinda like Dinosaurs were closer related to birds, complete with being warmblooded and having feathers. (Which, dodongos are described as Dinosaurs, not Lizards or even Dragons (even tho they fit the description of drakes.)
@@anonymousfellow8879 That even fits with how stocky Darkhammer is! Since Lizalfos are often slimmer. I think you found the base of the Darknut family
Icalasari
Sweet.
Tho gotta say. Not sure trading fire belching and an impenetrable hide for sapiency and opposable thumbs was that much of an upgrade but...Then again. If I were a chicken I’d crow with rage, too.
My theory has always been that it was Link's. While we know that his actions of Majoras Mask and OOT were forgotten by all, he fell in favour of Zelda who would trust him as a friend. If we go off the sculpture, we see that Link was an ambassador of sorts, initiating first contact with the Ooccaa, the Rito, and also being an ambassador to the Gorons and the Zora. In Twilight Princess we see that Link trusted the Gorons with his bow, and in OOT we see that he saved the King of the Zoras' daughter.
Also, an ambassador would be the one of the few people aware of the Ooccaa and Raru, which are pictured in the mansion.
If we assume that those in the armour are protectors of the Royal family, it suggests that Snowpeak was both Link's house, and a fortress with a guard of soldiers ready to protect from an unknown enemy from the snowier regions. I also think we could draw a link between Link's supposed death in combat, and the falling apart of the mansion, with no other knights willing to take ownership of what they believe is a waste of time, with no threat after all
This has precedent in medieval times too, often Knights would be granted plots of land and castles, as long as they also functioned as military outposts and fortresses
Edit: The sculptures in Castle Town depicting the rito and Ooccaa
Unfortunately the sculptures have been revealed to be a fun design made by one of the western people who helped with the TP HD version. He said it told a story he wished happened in the games, but never did. As much as I wished they were canon and told of an unseen backstory. But otherwise I'd say that's a good theory.
But if so, why would the one soldier attack Link? Both Links to look pretty similar
@@yorifierro7030 You'd probably attack anybody who looks like the owner of the place too if you were constantly shoved into cages then abandoned
Wouldn't the bow most likely be that of SS's Link? They look identical.
@@Deadflower20xx Even if they're just fun, they still exist in the Zelda universe. Back when Twilight Princess came out, the fallen Hero or whatever his name is, was just a bit of fun with a few mirror poses of Link, then years later it get's confirmed in canon to be OOT Link.
Playing the Shadow Temple theme right as you bring up the Royal Family doing something shady. I see you, you clever bastard.
Breeding?
Ha, more like human prisoners transformed by dark magic.
No im going with living suits of armor
This makes a lot sense given how the Darknut guarding the Dominion Rod isn't hiding among suits or along the wall, waiting for Link to be in the center of the room. It awaits for a Hero who can find their way through the puzzles and Lizalfos/Dinolfos, unlike those possibly corrupted in the castle it acknowledges Link before engaging in combat.
Yeah he behaves as befits a knight protecting the royal family.
And then. Bam. He ded lol
among 😳😳😳😳😳
As ridiculously unlikely as it is, but I want to see the Snowpeak ruins return in BOTW2. It could be beyond Hyrule's Northern Border, past hat Giant Chasm, and we could explore a version of it buried deep in snow, with an extensive underground.
That would be cool!
@@jaehaalexander1172 We could even fight an ancient Darkhammer or Darknut waiting to test the Hero, or a Darknut acting as an ally to Hyrule, remaining untouched by Ganondorf's Malice.
@@treybrzezowski3259 nintendo needs to hire you
@@jaehaalexander1172 Nah, I'm best suited for fun little ideas now and then, though I wouldn't say no if they asked for Ideas.
17:46 It’s Beedle! He’s training a private army to Monopolize Hyrule.
I love how when you took the theory a step further as to suggest the mansion was the place of creation for these monster-like soldiers, you played OoT's Shadow Temple/ Bottom of the Well theme song! Not solely because of it's scary and eerie vibes but because the Shadow Temple was a torture and interrogation area for the Sheikah and they created unholy monstrosities through horrible methods where magic and science are one and the same.
Not sure if this was intention, but it was an awesome include nonetheless!!
A fortified home of a noble with space for soldiers is literally the definition of a Castle...
Castles have cities though...
...unless you wanna suggest that there _was_ a city there
Not every castle has a city. Many are purely deseigned around housing the noble and only enough space for the army to garrison it and store the supplies needed for a siege. They were most often built to project power onto nearby cities and areas
@@frostingorb2181 Most castles didn't have cities actually. Many of them didn't even have walls. What medieval fantasy has portrayed as castles are highly unrealistic.
Check out the channel shadiversity he's gone over castles in great detail.
@@jypsridic I love Shad's videos. They give me so much inspiration for my own stories.
Also, I agree with everyone else. Castles don't need cities to be classified as a castle.
Shadiversity would disagree with you.
The rapiers could tie to the Darknut’s second phase sword
Ashei also had a rapier
Maybe but I think the darknut has a cross guarded sword apposed to the hand gaurd. It def could be a different darknut or maybe the trainers who taught the darknuts and darkhammers. Who knows.
Ashei had sword more similar to the dark knunts than the one on the crest so did Zelda but if you looked at the proportions to the handles on the crest it looked more like a historical anti armor dagger but it may have represented dueling as crossed swords oftentimes does so it might be representative of the fact that the knights in training would do a lot of sparring
It's not a rapier though. It's an estoc. I know they look the same but their different. Rapiers typically don't have a cutting edge and the guard is made to protect the whole hand. They are basically needles. Estoc's do have an edge and have a twisted bar hand guard. The way you would them is totally different.
Nick Stein It actually makes total sense that a knight would have an estoc because front what I understand they were anti armor swords
Am I the only one who directly thought when entering that the armors were for other Yetis?
Also "not like any mountain I know" can just as well be intrepid to mean the mountain is very unique and she hasn't come across another mountain like it.
I remember the knights and soldiers in this version of LOZ being scared and not very competent. Maybe the royal family was frustrated by this and used Snowpeak to train (and possibly breed) better guards?
My thought: Snowpeak Ruins is a "summer cottage" for the Royal Family that also worked as a training ground for elite Hylian knights - those who guarded Zelda directly (a 2-fer). As ages passed it fell out of favor and was abandoned. As for the giant suits of armor - Magical "Robots" - armor imbued with the simple order "protect from intruders".
After all, if you want the elite of the elite knights, what better place for them to train than a frozen Hell-on-Hyrule that would break all-BUT the best. And what better place to train in secret - away from the prying eyes of the people/other nations under the guise of a "summer getaway" spot. It would then also stand to reason that my idea of a "magical robot armor" research would also happen here - away from prying eyes in a place normal knights consider inhospitable, remote in case of an accident...
Heck, postulating further, one might even argue that the "summer lodgings for past Princess/Queen Zelda's" was just a cover for her direct ancestors magic knight experiments. Magic Knight Hyrule? Probably stole the idea from Cephiro...
Even though Ashei didn’t seem to have lived in the mansion in the TP game, the TP manga Volume 6 makes it known that Ashei and her family did indeed own the plot and when they fled, she allowed the yeti’s to live in peace. Doubt the manga has any bearing canon wise, but it’s interesting to know
The manga is basically an alternate canon heavily influenced by notes from Nintendo and its developers. Ashei's backstory was likely intended this way, but not well documented within the game itself. It may be that Ashei grew up on that same mountain, before it become Snowpeak, which caused her family to abandon the keep. If you visited your childhood home after a calamitous blizzard, you too might not recognize it.
I love how the yeti’s are cool with the monsters in their house
I guess it's like that sheep that was found in the wilderness with like 60 pounds of hair. Nothing could bite him because of all the fluff-maybe it's the sane for the Yetis lol
Yeta says that after they got the mirror, monsters came, so I don't think they were fine with it.
Well the female yeti never moves and the make yeti never leaves the kitchen
plot twist: 17:43 the darkknuts are insects. humanoid insects. created by Agitha.
I knew it!
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@@avepalta4448 Agita = Komugi from an alternate universe
The original Legend of Zelda has a rapier/sabre in its title screen.
The Darknut/Darknuckle/Iron Knuckle has always been the most terrific miniboss. I'll take on anything in the game but run away from these guys. It's always monstrous, but not a monster like a Bokoblin. I truly hope to see one in BOTW2. It would give Lynels a run for their money!!
The Snow peak ruins is one of my favorite dungeons from zelda. And it's my favorite from tp. It's just has a great feeling
Yeah something about just feels special. Maybe it's because it's a dungeon with a reasonable layout that makes it feel like an actual mansion and also the sense of progression with the soup.
@@Reytin, don't forget the humor with the ingredients.
Agreed it’s definitely one of my favorite dungeons too bc it’s so different than the usual Zelda dungeons with it being a creepy abandoned mansion
As far as the most unique dungeons in TP I’d have to say City in the Sky is definitely at the top for me though with its location, atmosphere, design, and puzzles EVERYTHING about it is so mysterious and strange not to mention creepy with the eerie music and bird like Ooco that live there
@@dragonbornexpress5650 Yes, watching Yeto beat the ingredients out of Link never gets old.
I always thought the mountain was the home/base of the hero's shade. Seeing the fact that link always fights him in an astral setting similar to an arctic version of where ever they were.
Those cages don't look like they belong in the mansion. Everything in the mansion looks neat and orderly, while the cages look rather slapdash, and hastely thrown together. It is my belief that those were made after the mansion was abandoned, either by the Yetis, or by the monsters after they arrived at the mansion.
Probably the yetis because they wanted to stay safe
The yetis say that the monsters only started appearing when the mirror shard showed up, so it definitely could be the case. It makes Yeta sick and later corrupts her and gives her crazy ice powers. Ashei also comments how the mountain itself is much colder than usual, which might also be because of the mirror shard.
I’ve always been fond of the training-ground theory, so this theory of creating an entire species at Snowpeak is incredibly intriguing. This is the best explanation for the massive suits of armor and tremendous size of the Darknuts I’ve seen. Thanks for putting this theory together!
"-nakku"
Knuckle
Iron Knuckle
Iron Knuckles and Darknuts are very similar enemies throughout the series. It makes sense for them, and the Darkhammer, to be related in some way.
Thajocoth
...but am I the only one annoyed by “Dark *hammer* “ yet this miniboss wields a ball&chain, not a hammer?
@@anonymousfellow8879 Well, the ball and chain isn't that different from the "hammers" used in hammer throw.
@@anonymousfellow8879 Darknuts don't throw almonds at Link either, so I don't think it's too big of a deal.
What if the Darkhammer was the first stage of the project? The Darknut was final stage of the project, a more sentient, less bestial form of the perfect warriors with higher tactic abilities and less instinct driven skills.
Example: Like the Thunder Warriors to the Space Marines in 40k.
@Magz Ups. Must have missed it
Do love Zeltik for always using the shadow temple/under the well music when hes talking about possible dark origins of things. Such a creepy and amazing piece of music
Perhaps the mansion was home to Ganondorf. Though we'd need to know a lot more about him, if we're assuming he was born in the desert, tho there are no Gerudo to be seen.
the scales on darkhammer and the suits of armor, as well as their hunched posture, kinda reminds me of The Imprisoned
That's an interesting comparison. Makes me wonder if this particular breed of creature was once crafted by Demise? I'm tempted to speculate that they might have been his own version of Hylia's Sheikah, but that gets me to thinking about the entire Zelda cosmology again which leads me to being upset that information sources of it aren't as plentiful as real world myth sources.
Buzzing for this one mate! Covered it myself a while ago but always love others thoughts n theories! :D
Be sure to grab a snack or drink
I think it is possible that there was a faction among the Royal Family that was able to tame monsters and modify them, maybe with the help of the Sheikah. The DarkHammers and the DarkKnuckles could have been loyal to them to the point where no one would fear them, but the dark influence of Ganondorf might have made them attack their former masters, just like how Ganon turned the Guardians against Hyrule in Breath of the Wild.
In middle school I bought Twilight Princess at a GameStop sale not knowing how much lore and care was really in this game. Coming back to this video as a college student just hits me on what a well crafted game I stumbled upon. The fact that these videos are about a game made years ago puts a smile on my face.
Well, there's the fact that the Hero's Shade is a pretty similar height to the Darknuts, and we know Hero's Shade is OoT Link, so it is possible that (at least some) Hylians can grow to that size, or perhaps can be influenced by magic or whatever to grow to that size?
Maybe once you become one you grow ala Dark Souls monsters. The biggest foes are the ones who have a lot of kills under their belt
Maybe Hyrule has mythical pre-religious stories of giant folk and these are what's left? Or, rather, taking the evolutionary standpoint when looking at it, maybe the various races just started being born smaller as time went on so when 'modern' folks look at artefacts, remains or (living) specimens from the earlier time, they appear to be giant-like?
Maybe high ranking officials were submitted to some sort of ritual/experiment to grow in size?
@@alejandroantoniovaladezuva4504 Possibly. The Hero's Shade is rumored to have also been a knight, though as a boy he likely would have been able to at least equal one in single combat. I think the race of giantlike warriors may have interbred with Hylians at some point, and the exceptional warriors (accomplished knights and the hero) may be descended from an unadulterated line or even an adulterated one (where somewhere an ancestor was genetically...played with). Then again, in TP, Link is still a teen, though an older one. About 16, 17, or 18 maybe? Looking at older humans/humanoids in the Zeldaverse from previous games, the ones who would appear to have an advantage health-wise over their peers seem to be taller, broader and/or more athletic, either by genetic disposition or they look after their wellbeing more. Maybe Hylians and races they are compatible with change differently as they age and it's simply more apparent when the individual takes exceptionally good care of themselves?
@@JariDawnchild I was just thinking, maybe the bloodline of the knights of Hyrule has something to do with it. As you said, Link is almost always a teen in the games, so there's a chance he still has time to grow to that size but we never get the chance to see it. Also, there are a some characters that tower over Link that can easily wear that armor like any of the Kings of Hyrule or Ganondorf, suggesting that some hylians can grow that big. In Ocarina of Time we even see Nabooru wearing the Iron Knuckles armor so we can assume that even a normal-size person can wear those.
From this video, I have conceived my own theory regarding darknuts and related enemies in general: they are monsters that anyone with a mastery of magic can create, although it may take a lot of time to perfect their creation and the process is not standardized, leaving a lot room for unique specifications, and for experiment. Long ago, someone figured out how to create artificial warriors, and since then, the knowledge had spread, and at some point in time, the royal army was the most prominent users of darknuts.
When you started on the theory of it being a breeding ground for these monstrous beings to guard Hyrule I was completely shook, You come up with some of the best theories for so many things in the Zelda universe. Keep up the good work Zeltik.
Your cinematography is always incredibly impressive. It's like I'm watching an actual history documentary.
So some quick thoughts: Snowpeak Ruins was actually an outpost from the Termina Hyrulians. If you look at the banners you'll notice that there are four snow flakes in the cardinal directions hinting at the notion that they worshiped the four Giants. Hyrulians from Termina were also more science and tool reliant compared to their counterparts which worshiped the Goddesses and Magic. This would explain why there are cannons and weapons not seen anywhere else besides the "weapon stores". If you also look at the enemies present in Snowpeak Ruins there are a lot of Chilfo's upon the keep's walls and outdoor areas. It could be a possibilities that these were the original owners of the surplus of armor we see through out the game before they were twisted by Ganondorf. They wield a spear similar to that seen in the Hyrule castle, have horn like protrusion on their heads similar to how the later armor and darknuts appear. Also Chilfos are only found in Snowpeak ruins. They also appear with White Wolfos acting very much like a hunting party sometimes. It could quite possible that this was a neutral grounds for meeting between the two Hylians. Hence the lush interior and defensive posture of the ruins.
Except Termina has yet to be told existed by vanilla Hyrule. My theory is BoTW has both lands merged into each other. Almost like the bubble popped dropping in all of termina in a way. Haven’t played recent games so not sure if Termina is even introduced.
going from Zeltik's silky smooth voice to anyone else's will always be jarring.
fantastic video and discussion of one of my favorite zelda locations, though!!
You need a video on the dark dealings of Hyrule’s Royal family.
*20 minutes*
Let's gooooo
This is a really cool video, and it got me thinking of where the Yeti could have even come from. They are slightly humanoid and really tall, and I believe Yeto has a tail so I was thinking maybe one of the early versions of the soldiers escaped and starting living somewhere else in the mountains no one has been to before and adapted to the harsh cold environment into yeti. Idk, just a random thought that I probably won't think about too much
I'm wondering if it's not actually the opposite. They trained the local Yeti into knights. Does that make sense?
@@dominicmoras4283 Oh yeah, that could be the case too.
I always thought of the Snowpeak Mansion as a safe house for the royal family in case of war. If Hyrule were ever attacked and Castle town came under threat of being conquered, then the Royal family could be evacuated. If you look at a map of Hyrule from Twilight Princess you can see that Snow Peak is a straight shot North west from the castle. There once possibly could have been a path/road way to the Mansion that few knew about. But over time, as the threat of war diminished, I can see the Mansion being abandoned and the roadway there being covered up by nature over time. The large armor could be used by friendly Gorons. The armor is big enough for them and mountainous terrain is nothing to them.
Except the Gorons HATE the cold.
Okay so I know I'm a bit late but I have to share this theory. I heard it in a video called "The evolution of the Zoras" made by a French TH-camr named "Rinkuto". In this theory, Rinkuto says that Snow peak ruins may have been built by the royal family of Hyrule right after the events of Ocarina of Time (Childhood Timeline, of course) after Link denounced Ganondorf to the princess Zelda. As we know, Ganondorf launches an attack on Hyrule Castle, after Zelda explained the situation to the king.
Well, according to this theory the Snow peak ruins were built as a stronghold by the royal family to both stock weaponry and form Zora warriors to war, hence the coat of arms similar to the Knight's Academy of Skyloft in Skyward Sword.
Indeed, if we get a closer look on the map of TP, Zora territory is right next to the Gerudo wastelands, the Snow peaks being the only region maintaining the two territories appart. In the theory the Snow peak could be what remains of the Zora Fountain, hence the frozen lake at the bottom of the mountain.
According to him, Morpha's malediction (the ice malediction of the aquatic boss of the water temple in Oot) could've simply been an acceleration of the climate course of the area, which means that when Link defeated Morpha, the course of time went back to normal and, years later, when the Gerudos declared war to Hyrule, the Zora's Domain being endangered, the royal family could've built this stronghold in the middle of the mountain still liveable at the time. That would explain queen Rutela's portrait hung right next to Rauru's one, in the hall of the mansion.
When the was was over, the royal family's help would've strengthen the bond and the alliance between the Zoras and the royal family, which appears in form of trust from the Zoras, hence the opening of the Zoran domain to visitors, in TP, whereas in Oot, the domain was only accessible to members of the royal family. It would also explain the militarisation of the Zoras in TP, that are far more armed than in Oot.
Lastly, with time, after the migration of Gerudos and the trial of Ganondorf, the stronghold was no longer needed and the mountains were increasingly getting colder as the natural course of climate continues, that's when it started to fall into ruins and become the home of a couple of yetis...
So there you go this is roughly the theory, translated from French to English, sorry if there're mistakes, I don't master perfectly the language...Hope you liked it!
Plot Twist: Dark Hammer is actually from the Zonai tribe.
Peter Y
Yes!!!!
...yes I do think that Zonai is just a collective term for several monster tribes, with the Barbarian Set quite literally being the Blin Aesthetic being one of the strongest pieces of evidence to support that
@@anonymousfellow8879 Zonai could be twili
Plot Twist's Twist: Dark Hammer is the ancestor of Gooma from Zelda II
There is literally no evidence whatsoever to support that
Guys, I think he just joking😂
Zeltik and NBC are a perfect combo. Love this theory! Never thought of this connection.
I love your videos man, your voice is soothing and your theories are sustained by a troughtful research. I haven't watched the full video yet but I have to give it a like. Keep the good work!
Thank you so so so much for making this video. It's beautifully made, and to be honest, it has served as my go-to comfort video for these past couple of stressful days. Needless to say, the theories in it are an absolute mindfuck, I loved it. Please keep on making such awesome content!
The names “Hammer Knuckle” and “Dark Knuckle” kind of remind me of “Iron Knuckle”
I doubt that’s a coincidence.
Iron Fist's cousin.
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I've got no evidence but I've long thought that there has to be off shoots of the royal family somewhere. Younger siblings who can't succeed the throne but are given their own chunks of land to rule under the banner of greater Hyrule. I think Snowpeak's different coat of arms could be one of those branch families.
Great job with capturing the footage of various angles around the mansion. It’s amazing that you’re able to capture very cinematic looking angles.
Man, the Hyrule Royal Family gets shadier with every one of your videos. Are we even sure that Ganon is the true evil in the series anymore?
Maybe they really are like the ones from Wind Waker, giant humanoid dogs that the Royal Family has kept in cages and trained into being knights
Jackals but ok.
Still in the canine family i think
I had really expected them to bring up how the Darknuts were depicted in The Wind Waker, since I believe this is the only time in which we ever see such an enemy’s actual exposed head and body. Granted, that is a different timeline, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that they couldn’t be related. I would venture to argue that the Darknuts in The Wind Waker were a major inspiration for the Darknuts in Twilight Princess in the overall size, fighting style, and method of defeating them, so perhaps the idea of more anthropomorphic creatures in such armor was a trend in The Legend of Zelda as a whole. Although we see the reptilian Lizalfos and Dinolfos as a recurring enemy, we never really see similar canine enemies like these Darknuts elsewhere.
@@LivingParadox87 In the first Zelda games Moblins had bull dog looking faces. But as the games went on the Moblin began to get more and more pig like, I especially like their look Wind Waker, a massive pig ,built like sylvester stallone in the arms but over weight in the torso, carrying a pole arm and lantern patrolling the areas of the dungeon. Their pig look also ties in with Ganon more too.
Real fans know this is a repost
Ye i was at the first one but it said it was "private"
Your award is in the mail
What happened?
Shh don't let the word out
Yeah why was the first one taken down?
I have seen several similar theroies before but this one seemly puts all the pieces together into the perfect version. I can't believe I didn't put it together myself sooner. Good job!
i really hope they make another Ice-related theme dungeon like this one.
Not gonna lie, but the royal family breeding darkhammers is a pretty bold accusation.
I thought so too, then again, BOTW2 seems to possible point to the Shiekah/Royal Family using Ganondorf's body as an energy generator for the Kingdom - Nintendo has never shy'd away from putting the odd dark bit in a Zelda game. Dark Nuts could also be Hyrulean Knights made large/evil by the Mirror of Twilight/Ganondorf's influence... thus the accessories and weapons of the new monsters might have been twisted and enlarged with them.
Well, the royal family had a somewhat darker side ever since OOT and they are never characterized as "the good guys". They are mainly characterized as "doing what is necessary to protect their realm". They are not tyrants towards their own subjects, but they also are not characterized as caring too much for other races or standards of morals, if the safety of their domain is threatened. This is clearly demonstrated by the Shadow Tempel and The Bottom of the Well in OOT and the connections to the Sheika and thus the royal family found there. Creating the Darkhammer and Darknuts kind of fits with this "what ever it costs" attitude.
@@Gilgwathir ...normally I'd have a bone to pick with the "Ends Justify the Means" line of thinking but considering their family and Links incarnations are "Cursed" by Demise at least in a metaphorical sense cause you know, the Demon Tribe holds a MASSIVE grudge and hate for said Royal Family and Incarnations as well as how their subjects will ALWAYS wind up suffering if they wind up being usurped or otherwise lose... which both OOT and BOTW have shown considering the former had Ganondorf cause innocent people to suffer while the latter had all of Hyrule being scared of dying cause of the Calamity, I can for once actually put my bias against said line of thinking aside since they have to be prepped when whoever or whatever starts to cause massive trouble whether it's Ganondorf up to his usual schemes or some random villain. They aren't dumb, the royal family KNOW that both they AND their subjects would pay the price if they wind up being taken over by a hostile and likely malevolent force, which again, we've seen multiple times said price in different forms, and honestly, I can't blame them. not to mention they're at least smart enough to make sure their subjects are happy and content since, well we know how in being paranoid about Sheikah Magitek the Sheikah wound up with a rogue faction that now serves as the King of Evil's very own Ninja and Samurai flavored followers: the Yiga clan! ...In all honesty I kinda want to slap the idiot Royal who thought pissing off the tribe of their subjects who serve as Hyrule's very own Ninja's/Samurai was a smart move cause they should've known demanding the Sheikah to give up their magitek completely would've had some of them getting pissed off enough for Ganondorf to be able to capitalize and get his own force of Ninja's/Samurai to counter the Sheikah... even if it seems that while the rank and file alongside some of the officers are competent and frightening foes to face it's leadership by BOTW 1... ehhh it seems to not exactly be at the best of standards with Kohga in charge which I kinda hope BOTW 2 changes... preferably with him winding up meeting and getting a massive powerup by Ganondorf since, well he at least managed to SURVIVE Link fighting him which is more than a lot of Ganondorf's other followers can say and Zant's a perfect case regarding a powerup by ol' Dorf not to mention this would be a case of Link screwing up thinking Kohga's out of the picture until he's back... and supercharged by the bane of his and Zelda's existence. likely with an even more powerful and dangerous Yiga Clan!
Snowpeak Ruins is one of the best dungeons in any Zelda game: change my mind.
Agreed. It doesn't feel like a building that just has a bunch of unrealistic puzzles for someone to get through, but snowpeak feels like an organic mansion that feels real. At least imo
100% agree.
I would agree, if not for OOT's Spirit Temple. The Gerudo fortress and the temple are my favorite in any of the games. I mean, there is a sub plot built in with nabooru spanning the 7 year gap, the aesthetic vibe of the temple, the mirror shield (obviously), Iron Knuckles, Twinrova-the most interesting boss(es) in the game, the music, and just the gameplay itself made this my absolute favorite!
@@hurricanev6 YOu actually made me change my mind. Oot forest temple is my absolute fave, but Snowpeak is deffo my second. Spirit 3rd.
@@gilgammesh1 Oh, the forest temple has to be on the top 5 for sure! It sits at a CLOSE second to the spirit temple for me, but honestly pick any dungeon in any of the games and I could come up with an argument for why it's the best. I just love this series. First game I ever played and first I ever beat was OOT and i was hooked!
The level of detail you research and put into your videos is wonderful. I really appreciate the work that goes into these.
I respect/enjoy how you collaborate and feature other people, but gosh dang your voice makes it a million times better haha.
One thing that I must say: even though a variant of the knight's crest or Hylian eagle appears on the Dark Nut's Armor, look at its belt.
Most visible at 19:25 you can see the insignia of some horned creature, either with a gaping mouth or large nose, which reminds me of some depictions of Ganon.
Oh I thought the same!
I'm beginning to think there is not one landmark in Hyrule that DOESN'T have a dark purpose.
That's the Royal Family for you-- Whatever Zelda-equivalent there is of Alex Jones is probably having a blast.
Thats what I love about zelda theories. You can go as far and wide with them and in almost every case its impossible for anybody to disprove your theory as long as you have some kind of game evidence.
Yeah, sooner or later there will be a video about the dark purpose of Ordon village.
Excellent video! I like the cinematography you used for your shots of various locations, and you packed this video with quite a lot of details and observations. I particularly like the idea of a Darknut being perfected through the years. Overall I’d say I agree with your analysis.
*Hammer Knuckle*
*Dark Knuckle*
Iron Knuckles: "and I took that personally..."
When playing I always thought of it as another royal mansion of some other culture but never knew what race.
Dark Hammer
Dark Nut
Dark Soul
Do I sense a Souls Clone in Nintendo's future?
A zelda/dark souls crossover. I like it
Omg I love to fight darknuts so much! They're my favourite enemies in zelda games
This was always one of my favorite Zelda locations for its design as well as its mystery,, great video and well thought out !
Well, technically Gerudo are just big enough for this armor and there is already a precedent for a Gerudo knight in OoT
It looks like Gorons are the only ones who could fit in the amour, but that wouldn’t make sense
Hey it's back :D
My favorite dungeon in the game and one of my favorite dungeons all across the series. I LOVE the "Dungeon that's actually a gigantic home" vibe, it's weirdly comforting
Ty for all these informative videos. If these one thing i like most about stories its the backstories on characters/places.
I mostly agree with this theory, but the notion that Darkhammer is reptilian, based solely on the concept art, still bothers me. Concepts are often very different from the end result, and the reptile design has a lot of differences from the final design, from head shape to stance.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Also in other games when the darknuts’ armor comes off, they’re canine in appearance, and if Darkhammer is supposed to be related them somehow, I’d say he was a dog and not a lizard
It has reptilian tail though
It straight up has a tail and has a similar hunched posture/elongated face very reminiscent of lizalfos and other humanoid lizard enemies
I'm not sure if I agree in this case honestly (for the reasons Ming and Succu pointed out), but "concept art/unused content is not necessarily canon" I think is something a lot of people tend to forget.
You don't have to take a Death of the Author stance to recognize that even if concept art, content left in the files or stray ideas from a dev seems to confirm something, there may be a reason it wasn't spelled out in the final product.
I think that the animate darkhammer could have simply been the work of the mirror of twilight. I mean, we've seen what it can do to people, to be able to bring inanimate objects to life doesn't seem that far-fetched.
When the other video went private I was so confused. I'm happy now though. Thanks for the video!
Excellent theory! Very engaging & well-researched, & the presentation is so nice. Thanks so much for uploading, & I'm eager to see mor elike this!
Right before you mentioned the theory about experimentation I literally thought of that plus your theory about redeads and their connections with the royal family so it makes so much sense for this theory to be real, love your videos keep it up👍🏼👍🏼
I like the theory that it’s the ruins of an old training academy which makes the most sense and has the most visible evidence for that theory
Ive always loved how mysterious and ambiguous the lore is in the Zelda series by the way it lets you fill in the gaps with theories of your own imagination especially as to what the history of the dungeons are
Also If you haven’t already can you please do a video theory on the City in the Sky next? To me that’s the most mysterious and creepiest dungeon in Twilight Princess besides SnowPeak and the Aribiter Grounds
I have a theory that the City in the Sky might be one of the remnant floating islands from the Skyloft days and it’s so ancient that only Ooco and Lizalfos now are it’s only occupants
(It’s been a while since I’ve played TP so I could be wrong and there’s just lore about it that I just forgot)
yeah city in the sky is skyloft imo
What are you thoughts on the house being built by a prince or princess who was not in line for the throne? It's always struck me that all these different emblems might be family crests of branches from the royal family tree, like the prince mentioned in the backstory to The Adventure of Link.
I'm pretty sure that the Prince of Hyrule from Adventure of Link was actually the older of the two. So he would become King later on. It would most likely be his sister's before she was cursed.
I love your voice so much, Zeltik! I love watching your videos late at night, that I’ve already seen, cause your peaceful voice helps me sleep :)
This is a comfort video I love going back to :)
Thanks so much!!
Perhaps its a neighboring country's fortress? Used to spy on Hyrule
Interesting theory, but what has Hyrule done to another country?
I was thinking that the ruins were made for an alliance with the yeti, as Yeto could totally wear that armour
That actually crossed my mind as well
Its funny around 20:30 when you mention the crest I didn't notice the wings at first, instead I saw a version of the sheikah eye having a more ominous look. None the less I feel like dots you connect are pretty spot on
NBC and Zeltik are the perfect combo of theorists
Arguably one of the best designed/ most interesting dungeon in Zelda serie.
It blows every BotW dungeons out of the water. It has puzzle but in a fun way, it has interconnected layout too, it has interesting foes.
anything blows breath of the ͏s͏h͏i͏t'͏s dungeons out of the water tbf
17:55 Well, we're (Humans) slowly evolving to be taller each generation. You children will most likely be a small bit taller than you. So maybe the Darknuts are decendents of Humans who lived in areas where being tall was needed to live, and Hylians and Average-Sized Humans kept living normally.
What a coincidence..I just finished replaying that dungeon.
Love your theory connecting the DarkHammer and the DarkNut. Very interesting.
The royal family being up to some sinister stuff is a neat theme I hope we get see addressed more in future Zelds