Rookie Mistakes When Boosting A Car
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- Boosted cars are all something we enjoy until we make a huge mistake. Mistakes with boosted cars are actually quite common, whether it's not letting your car warm up or swapping a turbo into your na car, we see mistakes happen all the time. Today, Alex explains mistakes that could happen when owning a boosted car.
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Fitment Industries Subaru wrx sti are a blessing from god, Snail time
My favorite boosted car is a 1997 mazda rx7 fd3s
The RB26 sounds amazing
MkV Golf GTI
Eclipse Gsx m8
Soooooo in recap
1. Turn on car
2. Idle for 45sec
3. SEND IT
No. It takes a lot longer than 45 seconds for the oil to come up to temp. This time of year with relatively high ambient temps allows oil to come to temp within 10 minutes on my Evolution. When it's, say, 40F outside the process takes a lot more time.
@@felixf5211 shoulda bought a subi
@@andrevalenzuela846 You mean to say that the oil in a Subaru comes up to temp in 45 seconds? I call total BS. It's impossible.
@@felixf5211 by definition, if u put 10w30 in an evo and 5w30 in a subi the 5w30 will come to temp faster givin the ambient temperatures are the same as the 5w30 will flow faster on cold start thus requiring less kinetic energy to reach operating temp. This is further exaggerated if we are talking about the FB20 that takes 0w20 oil in the new WRXs. But I was gana over look that cause I'm sure ur probably talking about the EJ25 in the STI even though I never specified that.
So indeed, shoulda bought a subi. Plus they are better cars in general. They stopped making the evo for a reason
Kids these days, not knowing anything about engine oil viscosity or kinetics. Tisk Tisk
me: Vrrrrrrooooommm stututu
my car: (Jack Stand Noises)
you need a billet wheel for the Su-tu-tu-tu's ;)
Bahahahahaha
I think turbo cars are fine whether it’s factory or not. It’s when ya crank the boost up to double the stock level where ya run into problems!
well it doesn't take much to double no boost
N54 🥺
Hamzah Abdi I’m running 21psi on stock n54 turbos😂. Ima just run it till it blows
@@marcoc4513 That engine was built for boost.
Jay Smith it might not bd able to handle that amount of boost tho...
Don't you just love it when you spend loads of hours installing a turbo into your car but your head gasket goes YEET.
Sam Patz im on my fourth right now.....
And then you fix your head gasket and your clutch says deuces
Sam Patz should’ve replaced the head gasket when you were building the internals for boost..... oh wait you probably didnt do that either 😂
@@jasonmoore3832 lol yah the first thing you should do when going turbo is internals if youre going for big gains. Head gasket, studs, injectors, etc. Some motors can handle low boost without any internal work. My sc300 can put out 10lbs with stock internals but i still did the headgasket/studs. And fuel system of course. I run it at 5-8lbs mostly
Sam Patz that happened to my friend that turbocharged a dodge stratus
Boosted mistake number 6, your WRX is not as fast as you think it is.
Simon Lam 😂😂😂
Haha neither is my STi 😂
):
So true I have a 2018wrx With stuff done to it it makes from the tuner 289 and 290 Torque . People say well that's quick. I think it's fun to drive But it's not quick
*hits vape* hey man you havent felt this LC yet bro
Forced induction: Fi
Fitment Industries: Fi
Coincidence? I think so 🥴
ChiCha FTW I think u mean not
Hoodie Drifts no i did that on purpose... it’s a random coincidence 🥴
I think you are right on the random coincidence my mind is blown right now 😂
ChiCha FTW thought u were relating to the meme
Fuel Injection : Fi
Biggest mistake #1
"Forgetting" to get a tune.
Drop 10k on a turbo system.
Turbo
Injectors
Fuel pump
Wow my car is running great. Two weeks later hey what's that sound?
Update I just blow up my EJ25D sad day subie life
I know a couple people like this right now. It sounds like their cars are about to explode and they aren't as fast as they should be for the amount of work that's done.
Who is that fucking stupid tho?
Who forgets about getting a fucking tune? How dumb can you be to forget what maximizes the power out of the mods you put in?
@@forsaaken420 Theres an obscene amount of people....
Hey man just @ the Subaru Community next time
Let the engine idle after use, for about 30seconds or install a turbo timer
This is what I came to say.. nothing like running fresh oil into those seals and letting them cool down.
agreed
Learned that the hard way on an evo 8.
Shoot more like 2 minutes
jamdc2000 all cars are different
Woo thanks Alex for the n54 shout out. Now it's time for the so you want a 335i video.
N5X love
i agree, looking to get one soon ;)
I will say it's a love hate relationship. But when she is running smooth. She has the looks, the sound the power, hard to beat for under 15k. Similar spec is like 40k in the newer cars
535xi touring is definitely my n54 of choice
Oh man xi. Hard mode right there
jacob medina about to buy a 335 coupe but with the n55!
When my dad got a bigger turbo, we had crazy turbo lag, fortunately, a new sensor and a tune fixed that. We ended up lifting the head, so we had it repaired and ported with a stage two cam upgrade, and put upgraded headstuds on it. Loads of fun
Rookie mistake. Putting a gapplebees sticker on their stock boosted car
the nicest whistle in the world...
The first rule of bolt on an go boost is, there is no such thing as just bolt on and go boost.
Bolt on a new K-Member, tubular a arms, coil overs, and fuel system. Bolt on a turbo kit, boost it as safely as allows, and send it. There ya go bolt on turbo kit.
There’s definitely bolt on supercharger that are fucken expensive
@@eleazarthe_conqueror7778 yeah Edelbrock has a nice kit for the BRZ
eli gonzalez yes, I got a roush kit, they tune and Mustang goes like hell. But.. be prepared to pay 💰
Unless you've got a smokey idi diesel with piston oil squirters. Bolt it on, give it 10 to 15 lbs. Good stuff.
Something people LOVE to do when they’re new to boosted cars: getting in, turning the key, and immediately sending it like a bat outta hell. Oh your Subaru blew up for the 3rd time? It’s probably cuz your oil was at 100 degrees when you made 20 psi of boost, genius.
I’m stuck waiting for the air compressor to fill up so she is usually at 200 before I leave.
Yup so true my stupid friend did that to his brand new outback.
My new GTI has a monitor option to view oil temp. Doesn't take a brain surgeon to realize theres a reason they want you to have access to that information.
Imagine buying/boosting a car for the sound and not the performance
Caston Snyder it’s funny because sounds are the exact reason I love the Volvo c30
Lmaoooo i know a few people like that
😅😅👋🏼
Que honda fan gender neutral individuals.
Fiat 500
Do not WOT in 6th gear at low speed it can result in low speed pre detonation.
Also can destroy that gear with the low speed
@@henrym5889 most "car guys" have little to no actual knowledge of how the car actually works. That's why we see so much bolt on mods, none wants to try to do it themselves
What is WOT?
The reason they give you six in the first place! No one needs to be going that fast you'll quickly cook wheel bearings too... One of the few things outside of cracking an engine open that im not willing to even think about doing myself
Forgetting to tighten up your hose clamp on your new charge pipe the night before a road trip and it blowing off on the highway with no tools.. true story
Been there before
Drive mine for a year before I upgraded to front mount and found the hose clamp for my compressor side exit was never tight
Rookie mistake
Crank, pistons and rods, head done, amazing manifold, great exhaust
Cheap turbo.
Blew the turbo(not just the seals the compressor wheel) sucked into engine screwed the entire engine had to rebuild everything
I feel you buddy
Luckily wasn't my car
Still have a naturally aspirated carburetted Japanese machine
@@kevinklazen2644 sounds old. Datsun? Mazda?
1998 Toyota tazz made only in south Africa and Namibia
@@kevinklazen2644 extraordanairy, i like.
Made a few of them, but my car has been very forgiving. Get a good intercooler, upgrade your charge and discharge pipes before turning up the boost. Upgrade your coil packs and gap your plugs. I didn’t initially do this and robbed my car of power.
One mistake when owning a boosted car is sending it at below 2000 rpm, especially on DI engines. LSPI or Low Speed Pre Ignition will blow holes or crack pistons. Let those engines spin up before you romp on it!
So at a track as long as it's reving above 2000 your good for launch? Isn't it bad to put that much force down off the line with no cold air for intercooler?
that sounds like a terrible setup with a shit tune. if you can't WOT below 2k rpm then you need to change your setup.
Very good video. A few points for emphasis:
1) Choose your parts carefully. While this may seem obvious, more often than not IME folks believe that additional boltons will yield better performance. Maybe, maybe not. Using the EvoX as an example, a tune and boost control will uncork the motor. Most owners add a UICP and a TBE. Neither does a thing for power. The less you mod the more reliable and drivable the experience. Hope that made sense.
2) One cannot overemphasise the importance of the tune on a turbocharged car. Please do not bolt on parts or play with boost without a tune. Definately don't go WOT. Same goes for buying a used turbocharged car. You have no idea what parts it may have been tuned for or whether it was flashed back to stock. Logging is key. There's a lot to be said about this and folks may want to browse the comments in the FI tune video.
3) Get T-bolt clamps. Last thing you want is a boost leak or a pipe popping off in the middle of nowhere. Ask me how I know. First thing I did to my IX.
To underline a very important point, frequent oil changes are *crucial*. It's no joke.
Rookie mistake. You talked about bovs then showed a clip of a wastegate dump lol
Well then 😅
Fitment Industries what wheels are the gold ones in the back ?
darnit, should have scrolled before commenting
Dont forget let your oil / turbo cool after driving . I let my car sit about 4 mins after a hard drive before I turn it off. Good vid.
Just drive it like a normal person the last bit home. Then it's fine to let it idle for like 20 sec then leave.
@@alexstromberg7696 but but pshhhh vroom pshhhh. I mean neighbors need to know I'm otw home. Lol. But yeah that to . Or a turbo timer. Thats would solve it easy .
Y’all going beast mode lately 🔥
OK seriously read this if you have/are gonna buy a turbo car.
Last tip, let your turbo cool properly. If you're driving hard and then shut the car down shortly after, your turbo will go from hot to cool much faster than normal, causing excessive wear from heavy heat cycles. If you're driving your car hard, let it idle for a few minutes and bring the temp of your turbo down slowly before you shut it down.
Cool tip. I thought it was the other way around. leaving the car on to keep cooling stuff rolling to cool the turbo before turn the engine off. Learned something thx.
I’ve got a turbo timer for that
Wrong... the issue is the oil not circulating in the hot turbo will bake and cause build up.
I love these videos always entertaining good editing and quality 👍🏻
Good video man , love ya style
Thanks for making these videos you guys really save me from wasting money
❤️
Idk why but the moment i saw rx-7 @ 3:10
A innocent smile appeared on my face :)
That's normal :)
Same.
Would have put a smile on my face if it was ls swaped
@@BigRoach651 yeah but sometimes you just wanna admire the pure beauty...
@@BigRoach651 some people like boat anchors I guess🤣
I love this guy he makes me laugh way too much lmao appreciate you dude 💯🔥🤙
i’m planning on boosting my miata in a few months... good thing you made this video haha
You guys are gonna get far👏🏽👏🏽keep it up
Ayeee thank you!
I think you confused a blowoff valve function with a wastegates function. A blowoff valve opens when the throttle closes. a wastegate will open to regulate the total pressure. That's why boosted cars will peak at a certain psi then settle down and be a more steady psi.
You'll find many professional racers using them interchangeably for boost control although you are right on their "intended" purpose
@@elijahmaurer9039 No you won't, the wastegate allows exhaust gasses to flow past the turbine section without interacting with it, regulating boost pressure and turbo speed. A blow off valve keeps the turbo from over pressurizing the intake which would lead to a pressure wave recoiling back into the compression turbine and blowing up. A blow off valve cannot be used to regulate boost pressure safely, if you try to, it will lead to the turbo being over revved and likely blowing up. A wastegate cannot be used to regulate the recoiling of pressure waves that will happen without a blow off valve. They work on opposite sides of the turbo, blow off valves are on the compressor side, wastegates are on the turbine side. There is no physical way for either to do what the other does.
Love the Videos’s, video on all of the components needed to go along with the blow off valve
was looking into boosting my z, so this is great and on time 😂
1st mistake... buying it part by parts trying to save up and then realizing you wasted more than you estimated
ive heard someone mistake the alternator for a turbo
I own a big single turbo fully forged RB25 s14 and I shit you not, last week a guy looks at me and says “that’s a huge alternator don’t ya think?” I still don’t believe it
When building a boosted car, build it similar to a very strong N/A car. As you need ported heads and a free flowing exhuast to make sure that air car actually make it to the engine
I replaced the stock Bypass valve on my. Acura RDX and with everything else stock. It still sounded great and no bad things happened sooo yea I'm satisfied with it👌
When I boast cars I use a different computer just for the turbo or supercharger system running in line with the ecu the reason I do that is because I have sensers for every exoust manifold port and Intake port also overall presser before and after the turbo intake and exoust, heat and cooling is also extremely important as well I add about 500 to 550 more sensors depending on the application and I also make them easy to replace when the engine is installed unlike most manufacturers
I love this channel man 😂👍🤘🚀
I have a bolt on turbo on my 86 for 2 years now.
It was installed by a shop who did dozens
I run full synthetic 0w40(Castrol)
I have catch cans
Vented hood
Oil cooler
Proper tune
26 months later still fine
Really enjoy this vid, all to true. 👍
"even ford fusions.. not even kidding" had to pause the video and laugh bc thats FACTS
Great video came over from
Legitstreetcars... the wheels you sold him for his Mercedes looks and fit awesome....
Just bought a wheel and tire package from you guys tonight 🤟🏻
I’ll tell you youngins the same thing I told other youngins, DONT BUY a MODIFIED car. You’re gonna have a bad time bc you’ll be doing nothing but fixing other people’s mistakes. Take it from a guy who’s bought 6 modded cars and regretted everything about em. Buy a STOCK CAR and do it YOURSELF. Way more fun and you feel better knowing that you’ve done all the work at the end of the day.
And when you build it yourself you get a much stronger relationship to your car. Also you Understand your car better and get a better feeling about what you hear and see and also feel.
Or maybe dont but a garage build and not expect problems? xD my neighbor bought a twin turned 350z and has had it for 3 years now and not had any issues cause he bought it with paperwork showing it was done properly and not built by a kid in his garage trying to learn how to work on cars xD
No joke dude!
The turbo sound in the end is fire 🔥But the supercharger wine is the best sound ever 👌🏽
Also, precision turbo recommends to let the turbo cool down after sending it before shutting it off so that you don't cook turbo parts
Going for a bigger turbo than you need and ultimately just creating more lag than anything else. Sometimes especially on 4 cylinders a smaller turbo can make more boost more efficiently
Was always hesitant to turbo a car that was NA from factory when it came to reliability. Ended up just buying a 2017 WRX 6MT and couldn't be happier.
Love you guys. Do the same video but for ppl how have never drove or have not driven a manual car before or in decades high HP cars. 😂 would be awesome 😂
Full stop @ 5:29.
Best looking MK3 Supra I have ever seen.
Need more info IMMEDIATELY.
Biggest problem people have with boosted cars is really simple.
They either
1: buy a small non sporty car with a 1.3l turbo and try to get it tuned up because hey bro boost. And it goes boom
2: tune a sportier boosted car without doing any prep work and oh noo it no go no more
Or
3: boost a non boosted car without transmission upgrades.
turboed cars are like chasing the dragon... you'll never catch it. (hope you guys got my heroin joke) lol anyways, biggest mistake I see is people not checking their oil enough.
My experience with adjusting the BOV is hooking up a boost leak kit, then adjusting the pressure to my set PSI. I would adjust the tension down to the point it starts leaking. Once leaking I would tighten it just passed the point of it sealing. That way if the waste gate fails to open the BOV will releave some of the pressure & buy me a little time to notice before the big boom. Just my 2 cents.
Alex, can you talk about in a video about the good and bad and the controversy of compression surge, aka turbo flutter.
@ 5:50 having the car at idle does not warm the oil. I have an STI and what I have learnt is cruising around for a couple of minutes is what warms the oil to the right temp (viscosity)
I love my Fiesta ST because it's all like wwwaaAAAHHH psh wwwAAAAHHHh PSH and you're at 40mph :)
Cue ST gang gang
Pfft man I drive the 2014 Genesis coupe 2.0T and let me tell you my turbolag is booty 😂 it dies the same thing then jumps to 60
Another thing to point out as a Rookie mistake when it comes to blow off valve. Most turbo cars now a days especially the non crazy race cars come with a Bypass valve not a blow off valve. So instead of venting that excess air/boost pressure to atmosphere giving you that sweet noise you're really just recirculating the air through your system. Now if you throw a BOV in there instead of a BPV, your car will run worse. It can have bad idle run rich or lean. In the end it's not good. If you want that amazing blow off noise and you have a BPV look at getting into a hybrid BOV. It will allow you to run either full vent to atmosphere or full recirculating, or 50/50 of both. I have a Mazdaspeed 6 which comes stock with a BPV. It was leaking boost pressure to upgraded to a turbosmart dual port 50/50 valve. I get sweet noise and I still keep my car running in good shape. Runs a little rich between shifts every now and again but it's a price I'm willing to pay for those noises. So it's a important step you wanna research
You think the vaping 12 year olds even try to think of this?
I love the sound so much it makes me moist...
Yikesssssssssssss
The cobalt SS/SC i own one good to see it recognized!!!!!!!!!!
When you mentioned the Ford Fusion, I got more excited than a fat kid with cake.
A stock car has a bypass valve which sends the excess pressure back through the intake to keep the turbo spinning (better throttle response). People put blowoff valves when they put big turbos because a bypass vavle wont deal with the pressure fast enough. Just to correct you on the stock blow off part
I have a torbo charged skoda superb with a 2.5 with a turbo from a factory and its disel but god damn it goes fast and when you can feel that power going im mmm mmm mmm its sooo god
I’m used to a little turbo lag from my truck, but it’s super quick, I’m talking half a second, because it’s still got the stock VGT in it. I’m about to go look at an E55 AMG. That shouldn’t be too hard of an adjustment, considering I’m used to about 480hp and close to 1000lb-ft of torque. I’m just used to a couple extra thousand pounds. Lol
N/a card can run forever if you leave them stock and keep them maintenance my uncle had an rx7 since 89 and he only changed the apex seals once he’s kept it up with maintenance
My Civic has been supercharged for a year and professionally tuned; I'd say (while the mechanics of the SC are less complex) make sure your wear items like pulleys, belts, plugs, fuel pump. Should have been replaced at the same time. I find myself replacing it part by part too often
Big mistake is using the cheapest gas they can find instead of the higher octane stuff...then wonder why their miata is knocking
Hahahahaha so true
Facts, still sometimes I'm like damn 93 octane is pretty expensive but its a small price to pay for a sweet driving experience lol
Mrs. Richardson is a saint!
Boosted Mistake: Slap on bolts on without a proper tune... #BOOM!
My rookie mistake was on my focus st I did a full bov but the system runs off more a recirculation type so releasing all the air sounded good but didnt help performance much then I switched to a half resirc half relase and that was much better
Got them ARP head studs and better head gaskets for the ole EJ. Then comes all the rest. Got you checked, head gaskets
When you're done driving let the car idle for a minute or two to let the turbo get it's well deserved oil to cool off
What about eco cars that shut off when u stop in traffic with no time to cool ?
That design is clearly for the automotive manufacturer to make money
@@georgew6751 yes! Saving the environment but destroying the turbo. How ironic
@Roberto Mundo again it was designed that way by the manufacturer so it fails so you spend more money to get it repaired either way money money money
you can get a special oil pump that keeps the oil flowing through your turbo for a while when you turn off the engine.
i love turbo cars and want to own one someday but i dont know that much about cars
JJN Joshy bro fucking same lol
Seen so many people putting blow off valves in cars that require a diverter/full recirculation valve then wonder why slight problems arise
Makes sense to me
I just bought my first turbo car in January 2022. First thing I did was add a catch can and change oil to mobile one esp 5w30. Then bunch of go fast parts from zzp. Tune and e85 this summer! I did a lot of reading and research before I bought the car. 14 Cadillac ATS 2.0t rwd. I know the cars problems and weakness and strong points before buying. The pistons are the LTG’s major weak point hence the catch can and Mobil one esp. it’s a low sulfur low ash formulation and helps protect from deposits and knock. Before I upgrade my turbo the weak ass rods and pistons need to be swapped for forged and Zzp’s stage 3 cam. It will eventually be a 500+ whp car.
I bet it’s rowdy! Would love to see videos 👀
A 88' supra was next to me today and i heard the bov, and just smiled...it was glorious. I really want to boost my frs but that 6-7k aint just layin around. *induetime
Forgetting to remap the computer after upgrading the turbo
Or getting a boost controller and setting the boost up to high
sitting here in my wrx 30 seconds in; hit the nail on the head
Another mistake is assuming that saving up for a pricey kit is the hardest part and forgetting that the install and supporting mods are the biggest pain in the scrotum
Turbo cool down. Don't forget that. Wait 5 to 7 min after driving. Q60 3.0t I wait at least almost op temp before I pull out of the driveway
also i would get an na tune up before forced injection, like a new vacuum system, clutch, better internals, etc. this is the reason why non car people cant make us believe the "I just supercharged my accord and now it makes 700hp" bs.
What is that wheel with the gold centercap to the left of Alex's head?
Always do supporting mods....trust me it’s worth it
Not having after market turbo and not having a turbo timer to let oil flow after you stop so you dont leave extremely hot oil in the turbo.
HKS turbo timer. Best purchase ever
I love my 10th gen si with the turbski (: but I wouldn’t mind a type r either lol
Or a rs7 I’ll take that too
You guys are like Scotty Kilmers fun nephew's.
i threw money at a 95 civic, the eg. b swapped it, gsr trans, turbo, cams etc...blew it up after 1500 miles after turbo. most embarrassing thing was that my dad was visiting and wanted to check it out. so i was banging it off the rev limiter on the entrance ramp for i75. threw a rod right out the front of the block.
“Coupe’es” took me the fuck out lmfao
turbo spool for days in me coal powered Merc
Two things about idling to get your oil temperature right:
- Also do it for a bit when you park up to let your oil cool down evenly and slowly. Things break if they cool down unevenly or too quickly. Your turbo(s) aren't designed to cool themselves down without oil flowing through them.
- In the UK it's illegal to leave your car running unattended, and the penalties aren't fun. Just sit in it or stand by it while you're browsing the 'grams (or whatever the kids call it these days) and save yourself the risk of being used to supply the local police's budget.
My cousin had a Hawk Eye STI with 10k in sensible mods,all done professionally and it blew up going 45 mph slightly uphill not even wilding out. We dont talk about the Hawk Eye STI.
My old wrx had the gfb blow off valve when I bought it. Didn’t know it was adjustable. Installed a boost gauge turn out it was running 20psi on stock internal everything and I didn’t know. It’s gone now, didn’t blow up I just got rear ended.
Ive been told it dont matter if you let it idle or roll it right off just as long as its kept under 3k until its warmed up
Not doing maintenance before added go fast goodies
Massachusetts plate on the thumbnail? 👌