Ursula K. Le Guin: Listening to the Unheard Voices

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  • In this wide-ranging conversation from 2015, Ursula K. Le Guin talks to Zoë Carpenter about climate change, the definition of progress, and how "the future in science fiction is just a metaphor for now."

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  • @randomwildlife206
    @randomwildlife206 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What a wonderful person. 'If we are going to get anywhere we really going to have to listen to each other.' Seems obvious but perfectly and beautifully put. The world is a smaller place without her.

  • @sebby1587
    @sebby1587 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    what an absolute freaking legend. Love this woman

    • @sebby1587
      @sebby1587 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      she's the only person I know of that rocked the bowl cut to the point where it's not even a bowl cut anymore it's reached imperial symbolic like status

    • @ad7265
      @ad7265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@akwon1618 you take this L lmao

  • @spenserdavis788
    @spenserdavis788 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "The future in science fiction is just a metaphor for now." That is one of the most elegantly simplistic statements I've ever heard about the genre.

  • @pyrrho314
    @pyrrho314 6 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    RIP, great great woman and writer. I just have been reading the Hainish novels collected in two volumes and thinking a lot about her for the last couple months. Her fiction should be in the classroom, so not-preachy but evocative... just... RIP.

  • @kathyd2945
    @kathyd2945 6 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    "The future in science fiction is just a metaphor for now" .... Wow, I just love that. I also noticed that her eyes welled with tears when she described the current state of our environment as a result of technology. Damn. This whole thing is such a great interview. Thank you for posting.

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  • @shadowfox6438
    @shadowfox6438 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I love how she speaks. It's simple but powerful.

  • @HappyGrl41
    @HappyGrl41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I got to this brilliant and visionary woman late but I'm glad I was able to hear what she has to say. I love this interview and her fears for the future are well justified. The world has lost an important ally. RIP Ms. Le Guin.

  • @innocentmaps
    @innocentmaps 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    "I think when I was 15 I just saw open doors!" (Laughs)...A wonderful interview and my compliments to INTERVIEWER & The Nation. That this is only 10 mins long is... Wow. So much in here to examine, unpack, consider, and like she always does, Ursula has infused her answers with candor, mirth, personality, and questions that are remarkable for their resonance, provocative relevance and her ability to speak simply and powerfully about some heavy and provocative issues without sacrificing any truths. She was a wise and beautiful woman who was as loved as she was loving. . Thank you Ursula for all you gave us. It's a comfort to know you're keeping a loving meta eye on us and the directions of our questionable progress.

    • @PSYMASMann
      @PSYMASMann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perhaps Zoe was a little leading with that question, expecting a different answer. Zoe's laugh is rather dismissive.

  • @IchabodSpoonbill
    @IchabodSpoonbill 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    One of the greats.

  • @wowproductions3779
    @wowproductions3779 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    She was and is an inspiration ❤

  • @depressoespresso420
    @depressoespresso420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    So good! But wish she was given more time to elaborate, could listen to her talk forever

  • @els1f
    @els1f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I genuinely love this person 😊

  • @plantefitch
    @plantefitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love this woman!

  • @davidwivagg7393
    @davidwivagg7393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have enjoyed her stories. I have written an I-Ching, but nobody wants it. I have even derived during my pain as a driver the order of the I-Ching. Now I hear her talking about progress like I have before to the voices in my head. Literally, the I-Ching is written to denounce the voices in one's head as perversions with which one needn't associate.

  • @diaargh
    @diaargh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love her so much

  • @South_African_Spirituality
    @South_African_Spirituality 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    we meets love everywhere

  • @lynchburgva8118
    @lynchburgva8118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    "..the dominant European white imperial voice has got us where we are - and it's not a very good place."

    • @vasilikid
      @vasilikid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      she saw everything clearly

    • @bakkermaarten007
      @bakkermaarten007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, that's clearly nonsense. The white imperial voice has brought the world tremendous scientific, economic and cultural progress.

    • @rosstatham4718
      @rosstatham4718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bakkermaarten007 Given her writing and interests, I would assume she means *culturally* "we" (the US, I guess) are not in a good space. Pretty bang on I'd say, given that the nation elected Trump the next year.

    • @xlzspwns
      @xlzspwns 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@bakkermaarten007 your so-called progress comes at the expense of the exploitation of countless people. Indigenous people of the Americas were slaughtered for their land. The people of Africa and indigenous people were forced into slave labor to produce wealth for white elites. The industrial revolution and everything after it has brought us increasingly closer to climate disaster with unhesitating usage of fossil fuels. Fast fashion, fast food, and fast-paced lifestyles lead to child workers across the world in sweatshops, exploitation of farmer's labor for corporate profits, food deserts and the erosion of non-corporate lifestyles, autoways that flatten massive swaths of greenery and people's homes to create giant, flat, gray concrete slabs that house our cars at the expense of pedestrian accessibility. Social media that leads to increased "bubbling", isolation, anxiety in many young. New technologies that are released without being properly vetted (Gen AI) and the worship of technocrat billionaires. The fact that our institutions, having been built on countless generations of institutional slavery and racism have now made a full swing back in to overtly racist, fascist attidues again..?
      But yes, one cannot deny that there has been "progress".... However it is that you chose to define this word (by excluding human wellbeing from its definition, apparently).

  • @zodiak121
    @zodiak121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    where can I see the whole video?

  • @alexanderkirko
    @alexanderkirko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Progress gets harder to define, the more developed an economy becomes. If there is no safe drinking water, then it's trivial to pinpoint.

  • @shaunhall960
    @shaunhall960 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Progress for who? Exactly!

  • @susanlockhart9345
    @susanlockhart9345 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We need to listen to the other voices....like the youth

  • @Enjoyurble
    @Enjoyurble 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:30 "You can progress towards evil just as easy." Well don't give anyone any ideas!

  • @robincrowflies
    @robincrowflies 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow. Technology is what humans do. It's how we deal with the world.
    I would add that stories is what humans do, and how we create the world.

  • @Doctor_Paxmor
    @Doctor_Paxmor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Technology is not what has put us on the current trajectory. Capitalism is. To conflate these two things is absurd.

    • @ximono
      @ximono 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Our use of technology has. It's not just capitalism, marxism has also shown its willingness to exploit nature in the name of progress.

    • @ekkiazure
      @ekkiazure ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ximono unlike capitalism, Marxism is not an economic system, but rather an analytical framework that seeks to explain the socioeconomic dynamics that propel historical movement.
      as an economic system, capitalism operates under the imperative of perpetual growth, which simple reasoning will reveal to be incompatible with its containment within a planet of limited space and limited resources.

    • @kevinrussell1144
      @kevinrussell1144 ปีที่แล้ว

      You lie. Marxism is not an "analytical framework" but a recipe book for tyranny and control, of the economic kind. Capitalism does NOT insist on perpetual growth, but perpetual change. Capitalism, in its pure essence, is use of resources for the production of goods and service governed by a market.@@ekkiazure

    • @kevinrussell1144
      @kevinrussell1144 ปีที่แล้ว

      Current trajectory of what??? Tyranny, pedophilia, ginned up racial strife, slave factories? Capitalism supports NONE of these, but Communism and "Progressive" Thought do.

    • @neetfreek9921
      @neetfreek9921 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People did. I find it very hard to believe that just changing an economic system will entirely reform our species. Also capitalism can become benevolent with enough social structures within it and people to enforce it.
      At the end of the day people just need to become better. More empathetic, better educated, and healed through the hereditary abuse we perpetuate in our society.

  • @redazarouri6181
    @redazarouri6181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need samone to translate dis vidéo to arabic because i dont understand a lot of englich i am just start Reading englisch

  • @VerleneShamel-w4z
    @VerleneShamel-w4z หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zita Circles

  • @robincrowflies
    @robincrowflies 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mic drop at the end. Epitome of mic drop right now. October 30, 2024. Get out the vote, y'all.

  • @level1life79
    @level1life79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The unheard voices? I listen to people of all colors and genders all the time, the animals are the unheard voices.....shut tight behind walls and packaged clean so people are ignorant of the suffering they endure.

  • @Khultan
    @Khultan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RIP

  • @bambiterranova5837
    @bambiterranova5837 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    God I love Ursula Le Guin but it hurts to hear she bought into Malthusian "population growth" nonsense, especially as someone who was known to be critical of capitalism.

    • @RaxeCAT
      @RaxeCAT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Not that food and resources can't be distributed in a more humane/democratic way than capitalism but it's true Earth has a limited amount of resources and we can reach it with more and more progress towards it.

    • @gg3675
      @gg3675 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It’s disappointing how lazily people take all reference to “population growth” in terms of ecology to be Malthusian. You had all the pieces there. Calling her a Malthusian is insulting af.

  • @awolpeace1781
    @awolpeace1781 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not well thought out solutions, comeup on the quick, quickly become problems

  • @pushista9322
    @pushista9322 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too many "we". It's not "we" who silence women and people of color. It's not "we" who destroy the nature. It's a very small group of the richest people who own the majority of lands, resources, factories - and they also own the governments of different countries because the budgets at their disposal exceed most countries' GDP. It's rather sad to see the wise elderly Ursula, who can say pretty much was she likes at this point, to be apprehensive and ambiguous around this topic. Western capitalist censorship runs deep.

  • @isawamoose
    @isawamoose ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel sorry for the people who thought this was enlightening.

    • @nikokosanovich6475
      @nikokosanovich6475 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      what is it about youtube comment sections where people act like the most condescending know-it-all’s. congrats on ur massive, massive brain

    • @isawamoose
      @isawamoose ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nikokosanovich6475 thanks bro! It's taken awhile to get here, I'd like to thank the academy....

    • @kaneda7368
      @kaneda7368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nikokosanovich6475 They don't even feel the need to expand, just say whatever and feel like they added something to the discussion. It would almost be annoying if I didn't remind myself none of this matters anyway.

  • @richdubbya
    @richdubbya ปีที่แล้ว

    She noticed the negative aspects of wokism years ago.

    • @BlueMatty
      @BlueMatty ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf are you even on about

    • @sonstige
      @sonstige 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      What?? You didnt get her i guess