MK8’s Hardest Shortcut! Bayesic Training Part 8: Shy Guy Falls 150cc Time Trial Tutorial
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- 0:00 Introduction
1:43 Recommended build
2:20 Time trial walkthrough: First Half
6:43 Time trial walkthrough: Shortcut Deep Dive
12:33 Time trial walkthrough: End
13:13 Time trial demonstration
15:36 Alternate strategies
17:14 Outro
Massive thanks to Prometheus for all his help in this video. Do me a favor and show him some love by checking out his Twitch and TH-cam Channels!
TH-cam: / @prometheus4026
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My twitch channel - / bayesic
Highly recommend you watch my drifting and advanced tips and tricks videos before watching my time trial tutorials:
- Drifting video: • Everything You Need to...
- Advanced tips and tricks: • 10 Advanced Mario Kart...
Welcome to the 8th installment of my Bayesic Training series!
Holy crap was this a painful video to put together. Words really can't express just how difficult it was to find a consistent setup for the shy guy falls shortcut at the end of the lap, but I went from only hitting this one in every 4 or 5 tries without the setup to being able to hit it on every lap with a fair bit of regularity.
I hope that the setup works for you, and as always, hope you all enjoy! - เกม
Hey! Thanks for letting me help out. I was glad to be a part of this and was super excited to see this show up! Keep it up ;)
No, thank YOU for offering haha. Definitely feel like the quality of the video is a lot higher than it otherwise would have been!
It's underrated how underrated he is. He is a true legend
"keep your eyes on the notch"
loops clip 50 times
Bayesic - Here’s a great tech and how to do this difficult shortcut.
My Brain - USE THE MUSHROOM
🤣🤣🤣
Bayesic pulled this off in a race right infront of me last night. A thing of beauty.
With Shy Guy no less!
I swear this guy is so underated
Idk he seems pretty bayesic
underrated*
Bayesic, my whole household are forever in debt to you, we watch your videos while we are eating our dinner every evening. thank you so much. lots of love
That’s awesome, thank you!
Great video! The tip on the hopping up the waterfall feels so obvious, but I’ve NEVER done it
It's one of those things that as soon as you see it you're like "OMG OF COURSE" lol
It’s because we think it’s just asthetic and that marionkart 8 deluxe dosent seem immersive like super Mario odyssey, but here everything has a purpose.
Incredible video. The attention to detail and the explanations are just perfectly on point.
This is the channel I've been looking for! I love time trials but there is not enough informative content out there. I'll be watching each and every one of these training videos, cheers!
Keep em coming these are great!
I hit this shortcut today after watching this video! So pumped!
I spent weeks trying to figure out this shortcut on my own. Thanks for this video😅
I know your videos are primarily tutorial based with the idea of helping people... bit I just like your calm voice and find the content interesting nd entertaining
Thanks for Sharing ❤️. I was ill and disabled for many years. I'm finally able to try certain things I couldn't for years. One was to play Mario kart 8 haha. Glad I found your channel and am watching all your videos ❤️
Great vid, subbed - love that you give credit for the tips you collabed on.
1K subscribers CONGRATULATIONS!!
Just dropping by to say thanks for the vid - I know it's 150cc but by watching this then doing loads of practice, I was able to beat the staff ghost on 200cc which I had been banging my head into a wall failing to do. It wasn't the same strats all the time obvs and I nowhere near optimised the run but just by trying to adopt the lines and approach you took on 150cc, I was able to cut like 6 seconds off my 200cc time!
Damn nice!
Staff ghost? :0
@@AnotherInternetBlip Yep, staff ghost on 200cc - found it quite tricky but got there in the end!
Congrats on 1k 🎉
Great video. Time to practice!!
6:43 That really doesn't even seem all that tough, looks like that thing I do on Music Park, but WOW that shortcut is hard to notice!
Me: "Oh, this one, yeah it's pretty tough but not THAT difficult"
Video: "On 150cc"
Me: "Oh, yeah nevermind I'm not doing that"
Great video!
I've been playing MK8 Deluxe since 2017 and shy guy falls is one of my favorite tracks and I've never seen or heard anything about this shortcut!
these videos are so interesting i’m not even playing mariokart today and i’ve watched 4 lol
These videos are very helpful
This shortcut screws me every time. Thank you so much!
this is a comate to show i support you
I've been doing a similar shortcut to this for YEARS since 8 on Wii U on Moo Moo Meadows oddly enough!
Thank you so much for this It really improve my lap times, you are the boss
Me: does the alternate shortcut on the bottom in like three tries
Me: yeah this is easy! Time to learn the actual shortcut!
-top ten most famous words said before disaster
My thumbs about fell off before I was able to finish this video
This guy is wayyy underated
Ur such a legend
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Thanks to you I now have a record of 2:09:34
2 hours? Geez
@@khajiithaswares4147 no it’s 2 minutes
9 seconds 34 milliseconds
Were you able to do the end-shortcut without the boost? I still can't get it, but with his other time-saving tips, I was able to get 2:08.850. I just mushroomed for the ramp
@@farmboy64 thats the joke
@@finalcountdown3210 I got it without the mushroom.
I consider myself a pretty good Mario kart player, mostly in terms of multiplayer, but I felt very comfortable attempting and completing all the other shortcuts in the game... Except for this one. I never felt 100% in nailing it so I would never attempt it in a match. I'm gonna try it out like this when I go home and see if it gives me a little more confidence to attempt it in a cup race. Thanks.
Good luck haha. I’m still not consistent with it that I’m comfortable doing it online but I also stopped trying after I finished this video haha
"Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game"
Dont think this applies for a shroomless grass cut.
Also optimizing a game doesnt make it less fun.
@@faisallewis5902 i see no enjoyment in spending 9 hours "perfecting" a regular jump.
@@Bizarrejoe depends on the person ig, i love playing games to a certain high level and precison
same reason for why i love playing ranked games on pretty much any game
Only legends know about the mine shortcut on the left
Amazing
Awesome.
Great video, making me interested in the game even though I've always preached how Wii and 7 are better than 8 👍
GameCube and Wii, if it don't gave multi player for home...it ain't nothing. Lol 😆
@@hevi5294 mk8d has home multiplayer (splitscreen)
yes ik im a year late and i do not care
thank you thank you thank you
Great video, I'm not that good at the game so when I got 11 on the baby park (easiest track) I was proud, it kind makes me feel dumb
i don't even play mk8 i play the wii version coz of the memories, great video tho!
Subbed. I recently got into MK8 with my son and every time we think we'rr making proggress someone joins the race and shows us how bad we still are haha. How long does it take to win with more than a avarage racers?
Generally, you're going to want to get 3 stars gold on all the Grand Prix in 150 and 200cc. However, it is better to work your way up to it through 50cc etc. These sorts of videos are only going to be truly helpful once you're already pretty good at the game. However, my best advice is to find a good kart combination. A lot of the time, good players don't do well just because their karts are really holding them back.
Pick Waluigi with the wiggler just like all the japanese players otherwise you have no chance of winning
That NISC is crazy
“ I spend the whole slide hopping around like a weirdo” - bayesic 2021
Easily my worst track so far I try drifting over the grass, as soon as I touch this weird green carpet, MT leaves the game, try to pull of NISC can almost get it if the camera didn't keep changing on me and I hit the ZR button at the end of the ramp and no jump so I reenact like Wily Coyote and plummet to the shadow realm, execpt for the once in a blue moon times im able to get beyond it but my line is super rough and i land in the grass and i only do it on the first lap, i try to use mushroom dont know how to time it so i dont end up falling off the track, plus i had Lakitu come get me from hitting the rock on the side next the shortcut even fell under the map at the top of climbing the water fall, though thanks to you I was able to shave off 8 secs off my original best time so thank you I want to try to get it down lower but it's the d*** shortcut that's screwing me over
1k let's go😎😎😎
Pls make a baby park and n64 150cc time trial tutorial🙃
Wow!
I realised I already do this shortcut :p
I went to this one!
Awesome work! I think you should also try twitch soon
I do actually stream on twitch haha. My channel link is in the video description. Unfortunately not as regularly as I would like but I do try for at least 2 - 3 times per week, mostly weekends. I'm actually going to be streaming tonight
Ok 👌
Okay, I struggled with this track 5 years ago and consulted TH-cam. TH-cam remembered and recommended this video. Thanks TH-cam, but I won that local tournament and moved on. And no, I will not attempt this shortcut.
I think you should go for it. I run with a group of people every week, most of whom are not tryhards like myself, and even a few of them were able to pull off the shortcut after watching this video
@@Bayesic At first I would need to buy the game again. Well, not impossible.
I can't believe I did a 3/3 nisc run with yoshi teddybuggy and now I have a 2:00.096 hopefully i can sub
Mario Kart 8 hardest shortcut: took 11 hours to do once
Mario Kart wii rainbow road shortcut: took the entire community 5 years to do once
Actually took me 11 hours to do it 3 times in one run lol
I don't care what you say, no shortcut is harder than the one in Ribbon Road.
If we're talking the second ramp cut on 200cc then yeah... I'll definitely give you that lol
Don't forget the one just before the end of Section 1 in Mount Wario. You need to get it just right.
@@JCBro-yg8vd yeah I mean if we’re talking world record strats there’s definitely some stuff that’s much harder than this shortcut, but this is definitely one of the harder non WR things to do imo
@@Bayesic Probably depends on how out of the way it is.
1st cut on ice ice outpost is pretty hard too
Gives me CTR Blizzard Bluff fence sc vibes.
Take a drink every time he says notch.
#alcoholPoisoning
i forget people still play 8dx, great video though! thouroughly enjoyed
Does anyone have a video on like counter hopping, say you are hugging a left wall and you turbo to the left you are like hopping right and then get another drift left
I only ever do the Super mini turbo method now. Maybe if I started emulating so I could save state at the glider section I would eventually get it, but playing on console, I'm sick and tired of restarting and doing all the usual crap through the rest of the track just to screw up at the NISC jump.
Good video though.
Yeah it’s definitely obnoxious. Especially on tracks like grumble volcano where there’s a shortcut that literally only opens up at the very end of the run
This is like the Royal Raceway/MK Stadium ramp niscs on steroids.
To me it’s more like the mute city shortcut. At least MKS and Royal raceway are easy to learn
Please do 150cc baby park!
i bet i’ll do this first try, i’ll come back with an update.
Best of luck! I hate this cut haha
@@Bayesic i gave it a good few tries and i couldn’t do it. i guess i was wrong this time
I can’t believe I got the shroomless cut first try and haven’t been able to get it again..
I still think this is one of the hardest shortcuts in the game that I’d describe as being remotely consistent
I'm curious if you're going to cover the 'Mario Kart 9' tracks when those come out?
So I’ll definitely be doing the DLC but probably after a couple months when the strats settle in a bit more
As for Mario kart 9 yeah assuming that I’m still making videos whenever that happens, I’ll probably do those as well :-)
Now let watch this clip one more time in a red filter cause i think red is cool😁
I wonder if this this NISC is doable on inward drift bikes 🤔
"took me more than 11 hours to get on all 3 laps." that makes me feel a little bit better that my pleb ass couldn't get this shortcut down a single lap in 2 hours of trying lol.
I have some questions about the NISC if anyone knows how to ansewer them I'll be really pleased :) :
1) For the Neutral Hop, do I have to keep pressing the R/ZR button while in the air or is it just once and quick click?
2) I feel like there are some times which my kart gets a good hight on the jump over the grass, but sometimes it almost doesn't goes up whenever I hop. Does it has to do with the direction from my joystick at the moment of the Hop, how early/late I released the MT, not keep pressing R/ZR button while in the jump, or something else?
Ps: I don't know if its actually the that the Kart doesn't go high enough or if it is just that he loses speed and doesn't go far enough
My guess would be that you’re not jumping early enough which is why you’re not getting height
As for the actual technique, as long as you’ve done the set up properly it should just be a “release the MT, and then quickly press R/ZR once”
@@Bayesic Thank you for the help, you're awsome. Keep it up :)
Long story short I want to play mk8 again, much like how I can still play celeste so to do this I tried to find the easiest track. This is where I am now...
This is definitely not the easiest track haha. N64 Rainbow Road probably takes that honor… that or sweet sweet canyon
I can’t even take that shortcut with a mushroom without flying off the track
I can’t remember, did I go over how to do the short cut with a mushroom? Because it is actually kind of difficult
So the hardest NISC in the game, or the hardest general shortcut in the game, which includes shroom cuts? The hardest NISC in the game is on the third lap of Grumble Volcano at the end of the course.
I personally think that grumble volcano's shortcut is easier than this one but you know... tomato tomato (hmm this doesn't work very well on text ^_^;;)
@@Bayesic Once again, when you say shortcut, do you mean NISC, or are we talking all shortcuts to include shroom cuts? Your terminology makes it confusing.
@@mobus1603 NISC. None of the cuts are very difficult with mushrooms
Is there some type of optimal way to do this shortcut that's supposed to be hard? I just hopped on time trials and did this shortcut 3 laps in a row on my third time trial attempt (never tried this shortcut before ever). Maybe it really is just that reliant on setup, in which case, absolutely fantastic tutorial!
Edit: When I say did the shortcut I mean I managed to get through the offroad, trick off the ramp, and land on the other side. 150cc still.
I'm also assuming you meant without using a mushroom otherwise yeah the shortcut is trivial in that case haha
So like I mention in the video, once you have a consistent setup, the shortcut itself is really not that difficult to do. I can get 3/3 probably once every 2 or 3 attempts now. I really have no idea WHY this setup helped me out so much, only that it did lol. But for some context, last time I checked on speedrun.com, none of the top 10 or so runners in the 48 track or nitro track categories even attempted this shortcut, and there was only one Flower Cup speedrunner that I saw use it. Most runners don't even attempt one of the easier versions that I cover at the end of the video
So the trick is generally inconsistent enough outside of time trials that there are basically no speed runners that do it, and they attempt some pretty precise tricks
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I think at mute city is the hardest shortcut :)
To me this shortcut is basically the same as mute city except that the setup is more complicated and starts a lot earlier
I guessing this doesn't mean crap if it's 200cc because of fast that mode is right?
Actually i’d be surprised, but the shortcut is also pretty difficult to hit properly on 200 mL as well. It’s not so much the shortcut itself, because you can literally drive over the grass, it’s doing it in such a way that you don’t run into the wall or the off-road after the shortcut that’s the tricky bit
@@Bayesic yeah that's fair I suppose.
What montage logiciel do you use ?
I use DaVinci Resolve 16. It's free and totally awesome
NISC or Shroomless? what term do you prefer?🤔
Usually I use the term nisc
@@Bayesic Cool. Just asking because I mainly play mkwii and they usually use Shroomless there. But makes sense that different games will have slightly different lingo
@@ericastrue4527 I think nisc probably became more popular just because it’s a bit more general since you can take shortcuts with other items like stars
@@Bayesic True that
Mario kart is probably the most fun game ever
Umm...
I find Ice Ice Outpost harder.
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@@Bayesic ok that was funny😂 but seriously me and a buddy are doing time trial tournaments and I can t quite get my drifts right around each corner I thought maybe I was doing something wrong that's why I requested 😅 but if you can't its cool
@@Bayesic I'm looking for atleast 1min and 13 seconds
@@hizzy808 So I'm not planning on doing a full on tutorial for that course for at least a few months, but my current PB is a 1:06 something and I could probably improve that without too much hassle. So here's kind of a high level summary of how my ghost runs the course
1) Start every single turn from like the middle of the left hand side of the track cause it allows you to basically go straight over the grass instead of approaching it at an angle. The only time you're not doing this is at the start of the lap (see the next step)
2) Mushroom through the very first turn and grab the three coins on the right hand side of the track
3) Grab the next four coins on the outside of the last turn of the lap
4) Drift over the grass on every turn from here on out. If you build up an orange boost before you do it I think it's still faster even if you mess it up a bit.
5) For the last three coins, grab the ones on the left hand side of the track after the first turn on lap 2
Hopefully that helps!
@@Bayesic and does this apply to 150cc?
How do you hop
ZR
I don’t even play Super Mario Kart 8DX but I still watch these
I don't see any time stamps.
Yeah just check the description. It's supposed to actually include chapters in the video itself but for some reason this just randomly decides not to work on some of my videos. No idea why :-/
can you do Yoshi Circuit please and do not do mushrooms
It's definitely on the roadmap. I've got a video coming out about these sorts of requests soon!
@@Bayesic yay
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why do you call ramps "gliders"
This is the hardest shortcut in the game? You would hate speedrunning MK Wii...
Lol I was thinking the same thing
I love how the title Mario Kart 8 but you're clearly showing Mario Kart 8 Deluxe gameplay and that's just clickbait
You can do it in both 💀
And then there are mkwii shortcuts 💀
Nintendo definitely learn their lesson from Mario kart Wii
@@Bayesic its sorta sad tho, bc broken games that take skill to break are arguably the best
@@Bayesic there is very little creativity in high level mk7/8 in my opinion which is sorta sad
@@carterh3737 I don’t necessarily want Mario kart eight to be broken like Mario kart Wii is, but I do think that there should be some more interesting shortcuts in the game rather than just “mushroom through this piece of off-road”
Some thing like that tunnel jump on Koopa troopa beach for example
@@Bayesic yeah thats completely fair, or maybe something closer to the start shortcut in maple treeway, but i think maybe 1 or 2 really crazy shortcuts would also spice up the game a little
I have never played a mario kart game in my life someone help me
Absolute beginner here: I seriously can not see any shortcut, where is the difference?
It’s that bit where I talk about hopping over the long patch of grass. Normally are meant to do that with a mushroom, but it is possible to hop over without one
Its really not though.
Big blue skip.
Yoshi circuit nisc is harder
I dont even watch or do mario kart speedruns
I don't even have a Switch why am I watching this
This has a criminally low number of likes.
Haha I appreciate that. I spend a lot of time trying to figure out how to do this stuff and explain it to other people, so am definitely appreciative of the kind words :-)
Yall say that shit is hard? Damn, we used to do this all the time in Mario Kart Wii, and yall calling that hard?
Pretty chill that you've been doing this since before SGF existed haha. On a serious note this shortcut is much harder than it looks
Basic....
You call that hard? MKWii had some harder shortcuts
Try it without specifically setting up for it. It's not as hard as some of the stuff in Wii, but that doesn't mean it's not hard