I’m so happy this trial is finally happening. Ruth Markel is not only every Canadians “mom” but she’s every mom in the world who would move mountains to get justice for her child. Watching from 🇨🇦
@@tomdallas3690 The Markels are not ultra-orthodox. Phil has said he is traditional, but not religious. It is obvious from the way Ruth dresses that she is not ultra-orthodox. At least know your facts before going on your anti-Jewish rant.
Donna, you have raised corrupt children and soon we pray Wendi will be brought to Justice.There is no complete justice until she is convicted! She shouldn't get away with it. Is this all worth it? Your family has no ethics or morals.
It was ridiculous about how she made harvey seem like a invalid. He is a millionaire dentist. He cant afford and find a cab to get home. He is really that inept?
Hi! Last video you read my comment- thank you! I am positively intrigued by this case as its circumstances, motives, economic class differences amongst the culprits and the distinguished victim and most obnoxious Adelson family with Wendi as the still uncharged evil manipulative chief player- it is dynamic and continues to evolve. Your coverage A+
@@annm9589 Big difference between a decent attorney and good one. Would you only want a decent attorney representing you in a conspiracy to murder case that if convicted you are going to jail and will only leave dead in a body bag?
I know, I am so stuck on this part. Only because of the time stamps that show she got to the scene AFTER Garcia called Katie. I *want* to believe it was her who notified Katie, but the time stamps don't lie. It's very odd. Maybe Luis is misremembering, but it seems like a very strange thing to say if it didn't actually happen. I hate that the whole Whats App thing blocks detectives from getting good information about these cases. It sucks. Sorry but if you use Whats App instead of your normal phone, there's a reason, and it's shady lol
So Donna’s argument is going to be that- she couldn’t get the Sun Pass info because she wasn’t charged yet, BUT simultaneously she had a “joint defense agreement” already even though she wasn’t charged yet…? Hmmmm….
I am confused why this has taken so long - it was obvious from the beginning how much Donna was a leader in this murder- can someone tell me if they know
The kids should live with Dan‘s family so they can hear what a great person he is rather than extended family of Wendy where they would hear the opposite . In true crime cases this is always my pet peeve that a parents adult child is murdered by their spouse and the children go to the murderer, family, and not the family that lost the child😢
Prayers for Ruth, Phil, Shelley, Lincoln and Benjamin as this trial begins. It’s hard to fathom the staggering depth of loss that this family has endured. Not to minimize Markell suffering, however thinking today aboutB&L. First they lose their dad, then their uncle now their gma and possibly their mom! These poor boys. 😢
Limiting texts and phone data re D's car location etc. isn't so bad b/c the core crims, Louis/Sigfriedo/Katie, verify and expose all that went on. True, they're criminals but their stories are consistent and cohesive. Momma Donna is going down w/the rest of the murderers. This case is so pathetic: People get divorced every day and don't resort to such heinous and disgusting behavior.
The Adelsons are all about money, money, money. They have a weird obsession about the accumulation of money, from Charlie hoarding quarters for Harvey to the piles of money in their safe. Each pile belonged to a different individual, or two individuals, and they talked about moving money from one person's pile to another person's pile.
And status. Every time Wendi mentions someone to Isom in her interview, she doesn't lead with their name, she leads with their occupation. He's a dentist, he's an attorney, she's a doctor, she's a professor, he's a podiatrist, she's a surgeon. Who effing cares in the middle of a murder investigation?! Take the stick out and give the relevant info! She does it at trial too. They ask her when she got married. Instead of saying the year, she says, well that was my 2nd year of law school, so it would be.....🙄🙄 Girl, relax. No one cares. Give the year and move on. You're not impressing anyone on this jury with your credentials.
Their spending habits are is idd, $8 million worth accumulated, enough to spend hundreds of thousands renting apartments in Miami (partly while owning a house there) lobster & the high life but she couldn’t book return tickets to Vietnam???
He makes some good points, but he also said Katy Magbanua wouldn't testify, and if she did, she would easily be impeached. Someone else said that he also predicted Donna would not be charged. I like him, but he is a bit too cozy with Tallahassee to ever really speak his mind if he has a contrarian point of view. He is at his best when talking about cases outside of Tallahassee because there is no potential conflict. Of course, by being a Tallahassee insider he is one of the few that can offer solid info about dynamics that others outside of Tallahassee cannot offer.
I disagree. Imo Carl Steinbeck is the YT lawyer for this case. Tim decided he would insult and undermine Carl on this channel, hence Carl is no longer a guest here. Very unprofessional by Jansen imo.
@@jonoharper4729 I forgot that they had a pretty big battle that got ugly, at least for here. Carl is very knowledgeable, but he is strictly an ABC type of guy and really doesn't have a good imagination. He can list a bunch of evidence, and has some good insights when he says stuff like....what are the odds, when talking about how unlikely certain actions would be made by an innocent person (that is normally my cup of tea), but his predictions about who is likely to be charged in this case, who would testify, etc., and how impactful that testimony would be, have not stood out more than anyone else. Most all of the legal experts expected Charlie and even Katy Magbanua not to testify, and not a one of them, once Rashbaum said Charlie was going to testify, thought of the extortion defense, which is the only defense he can make there. Carl has never articulated the legit possibility that Donna found out after the murder. He lines up all of his evidence, but doesn't realize that almost all of it goes out the window if Donna didn't find out until shortly after the murder, then went along with Charlie's plan. He, like others, never even contemplates what is a legit possibility here. I definitely wouldn't want him prosecting me, because he piles up the points.
@@tomdallas3690 You seem to know the case and players well. I am not that knowledgeable but have dipped in and out of various channels to keep up to date. I'm personally drawn to Attorneys that display high integrity, calm demeanor and articulate presentation of well researched facts. Carl Steinbeck is that imo. I do think the facts and evidence are comprehensive and insurmountable for Donna. I'm open to hearing evidence that Donna only found out after the fact, but I haven't seen any. Imo she plays the matriarch role in that family, a dominant matriarch at that, and she was involved from the start, from inception to planning and now through to this point. Thanks for your insights and detailed response 😊
@@jonoharper4729 I agree that Carl appears to have very strong character. I am just a bit critical of all here because the evidence against Donna is simply not as strong as has been portrayed for what has been about ten months. They have simply repeated tons of evidence against her, but really have never thought of the possibility of how weak that evidence would be if she in fact, found out shortly after the murder. It is as if they never contemplate it at all. There is no smoking gun against Donna, that makes me sure she knew about the murder plan when she made Wendi's Best Buy appointment. Without proving that, I think she has to be innocent, no matter how much people hate her, and no matter how much she hated Dan Markel.
I'm starting to understand the STS haters, of which there are increasingly more. Joel often doesn't even listen to his guests. One of his guests will give a brilliant answer to his question and instead of acknowledging it, Joel will opt to immediately segue into an anecdote about his dog. 🤦♀️
If you don't like it, find a different channel. The side tangents are what most of us love about this channel. Joel is hilarious and it's fun to hear all the extra stuff. Better than boring, dry, reporting. I love this channel. Sadly I had to take a break when they covered Karen Read b/c she's guilty as hell and they seemed to have leaned into the conspiracy crap, but I'm so happy to be back for Donna's trial. Why even be here and be angry and annoyed with the coverage? Life is too short. Find a channel you love and don't sit here and be miserable, only to leave hurtful comments.
Joel does a great job and does an unbelievable job of running things smoothly. For example, when he asks a question, he will then say whatever guests name, then ask it again, so that nobody else jumps in first. In fact, I have never heard two guests try to speak at the same time, which is miraculous. Plus, he is glancing at the live chat like most are, and probably fielding inquiries from his wife (C.O.E). My only complaint is that he, like basically everyone else, is way too rah rah on the Justice for Dan narrative. He doesn't ever have a show, for example, like the top 5 reasons Donna might NOT be guilty. I mean, nobody ever contemplates the other side of these things. Obviously, my pet peeve is the lazy Vietnam narrative, and Joel hasn't really considered the other side of that....just like almost every guest. There is a small chance Donna didn't find out about Charlie's plans until right after the murder. If that is the case, Donna is innocent, and the facts about Vietnam are exactly the same whether she is innocent or guilty...fleeing an indictment in this exact scenario, if innocent, is totally logical. He runs a good show. He has a ton of reasons to be biased, and will admit as much. I think he has stated that the show's purpose is somewhat of a Justice for Dan Markel show. He's afraid, as is everyone else, to offer any type of criticism at all to Dan Markel or his family. I get it, but it gets old, because there is fascinating info out there about this battle that led to Dan's murder. We have to find it out on our own, I guess.
@@tomdallas3690 Seriously you can believe what you want. I don't know who you are and why you keep pushing the 'Donna didn't find out until after the murder" train. Every single one of your comments or questions pertains to that same exact narrative. Your question has been asked and answered multiple times. The evidence is all there. If you still don't believe Donna conspired on the murder, then good luck with that bridge you're going to buy. Nobody does a show on reasons why Donna might not have done it because it would be a very short show.
@@uraigroves7898 sounds like it was text messages or emails, which is even better, because it's in black and white and they can't accuse her of lying. Can't wait to see what it says.
@@uraigroves7898 Everything Wendi has said indicates guilt. There can't be a bigger bombshell than her comments to Lacasse about his trip, followed by her drive to Trescott shortly after the murder. Well, I guess there can, but those two facts I mentioned are enough to send her to prison alone.
They aren’t loyal to Rash for his results or acuity as an attorney.. it’s his lack of morals and integrity… the fact that he’s willing to bring forward a defense filed with blatant lies.
Why Donna and Harvey Addison didn’t buy a round trip European ticket perhaps to Paris. Then once in Paris buy tickets to Vietnam? Hewever, law enforcement had other pre-trip information that the two Addison’s were in the process of fleeing.
Because they could've been watching for them at the Paris airport having gotten a heads up of their flight plans. She was trying to breathe a sigh of relief once on a flight to a country without extradition
Full credit to Mentour Lawyer for obtaining this new evidence. Also, saying "sorry to interrupt" before interrupting does not excuse interrupting. Just shut it until others have finished what they're saying. It's not that hard.
If Donna’s phone actually had texts confirming without a doubt that Wendi was involved when would that actually come out? At Donna’s trial or would they keep the lid on it? Or would they have already arrested Wendi?
Quick Question. Would Wendy have moved to Texas to escape the new Florida law that would allow her sons to see and know Danny’s parents? If that is the reason, that is beyond cruel.
You have to understand that the Adelsons see themselves as victims here. Since that is the case, and their family is destroyed because of Dan Markel's actions, you cannot expect them to give an inch to the grandparents. It makes perfect sense from their perspective. They had Dan Markel killed because in their minds, he was a horrific person.
Joel is always “sorry to interrupt” - nope he is not. Joel should stop apologizing for interrupting because clearly he loves to do it and is not capable of stopping.
One day I was listening to STS while I was cleaning the pool. It happened to be a really cold day In Florida, like 40 degrees. My IPhone 11 slipped out of my pocket and went to the bottom of the deep end..I stood there & watched as it was still playing STS under the water. I dropped the pole with the skimmer net & I jumped in(clothes and shoes on) to retrieve it..haha..didn’t occur to me I coulda just scooped it up with the net. At any rate, that was like a year ago & the phone still works perfectly. Phones are pretty sturdy these days even a 5-6 year old phones! So I disagree with the guest who said if you drop your phone in water you need to back up your data and get a new phone right away.
There is absolutely no way for Wendi to deny involvement when you have Jeff being set up as the fall guy. There’s just no way to explain that as a coincidence. She was very much involved IMO
Judge gull just said geo fencing is not allowed to be used in the Delphi case. She said it's not accurate. She took away all of the defense's ability to challenge the state's dumbness
Yes. While foreign ownership of land in Vietnam is prohibited, foreigners can invest in real estate entities connected to land through leaseholds. These entities, such as apartments or villas within developments, come with long-term lease agreements, typically lasting for decades.
@Tim Janson … Couldn’t Fifth Amendment self-Incrimination issues be asserted by Donna Addison concerning why she didn’t request law enforcement collect and/or preserve time sensitive information?
I think he lost weight over the last half a year or so. He has been getting lots of those comments, but I don't remember him getting them before the weight loss. For whatever reason, the weight loss, since it is really showing up in the face, has made him a matinee idol of sorts. I say...good for him.
If you don't like it, find a different channel. The side tangents are what most of us love about this channel. Joel is hilarious and it's fun to hear all the extra stuff. Better than a boring, dry, reporter.
@lisainthelab Listen, Lady, I'm not talking to you, and I most certainly know what I can do or not do. It's an opinion, I've listened before, I didn't say it wasn't good, they get off track and there are some others just like this and some more equally balanced with commentary that pretty much stay on the subject but in no way boring. This isn't your business. Some welcome different opinions and look at what they might need to improve, and they should always want to be better . So mind your own business and you do you!!
Donna will never take a plea - not Ben an Alford plea so it’s moot but it would be hard to think the mother and brother had your husband murdered without your knowledge.
Tips for the COE: When I walk through the door, I hang my purse on a hook. If I don't have it, that's where it is. For the cell phone, I just have my husband call me.
The hot mic, question , "Do you think she(Wendi) will tell on you?" That implicates Wendi's guilty knowledge that Donna has done the deed of murder! That statement puts Wendi in the mix.
9:22 I just linked a higher courts decision on Expert Testimony on a video I just loaded. And absolutely the court said an expert is someone with more knowledgeable then average person. That can add value and probative evidence.
The name Tallahassee comes from the Muskogean language and is derived from the words "talwa" for town and "hasi" for old. It translates to "old fields" or "old town". The Apalachee Indians, who lived in the area in the 16th century, were the first to give the name to the area.
Good show! Joel, as someone who has ADHD, I have to make a Designated Home for E v e r y t h i n g. And I Make myself Use the system. It's challenging at first; but then it gets to be second nature like knowing every time where the forks go. If it's really bad, AirTags. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And A little bit of tough love...😬 Jessica- since your friends aren't stepping up for you, I'll take the hit. You have a pattern of speech that's become a crutch-habit that you may want to look at, right? Especially in professional situations, right? Because it has a way of undermining your authority, right, and I bet you've worked pretty hard, right, to get where you are for that to happen, right? If you don't feel the gravity of this, right, just get a pencil & listen to this podcast, and make hashmarks for each time it's said. 😉 I know this, because that was my crutch, as well.~*
I'm sure I'm missing something.... But, with all the previous convictions and now Donna going to trial, when or why isn't Wendy and Harvey not locked up? Surely, we don't have to wait for one at a time. That could take even more years. The family needs closure, my prayers for them.
He was on the witness lists of the other trials too but didn't get called to testify. So he may not get called for this one either. If he does though, it makes sense, because obviously he has more information about Donna Adelson than about Katie/Sigfredo/Luis.
I’m so happy this trial is finally happening. Ruth Markel is not only every Canadians “mom” but she’s every mom in the world who would move mountains to get justice for her child. Watching from 🇨🇦
Is this you, Wendi?
@@tomdallas3690 So her defense should be…. “Your honor, I had to do it, his family are really really Jewish…” 🤡
@@BettyClocker-pd7of Typically lazy comment from the pitchfork crowd.
@@tomdallas3690 The Markels are not ultra-orthodox. Phil has said he is traditional, but not religious. It is obvious from the way Ruth dresses that she is not ultra-orthodox. At least know your facts before going on your anti-Jewish rant.
@@Torontobankruptcytrustee Dan Markel would not let the kids eat pizza.
Georgia should start off opening arguments: "Good Morning, Vietnam!"
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😂😂😂
Yesssss, please! 😂
LMAO!!!
That would be hysterical.
Donna, you have raised corrupt children and soon we pray Wendi will be brought to Justice.There is no complete justice until she is convicted! She shouldn't get away with it. Is this all worth it? Your family has no ethics or morals.
Except Robert. He got away from them
@@Txfreeandlovenit Yes leaving saved Robert
Donna was willing to move to Viet Nam but not Tallahassee to be near her sunshine's. Go figure
Great point!!!!!
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Control freak syndrome.
Thanks to Mentour Lawyer for obtaining these!
Love him
Funny how Harvey can't find his way home from Miami airport, but he can make living arrangements in Vietnam.
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Totally agree!!! I knew from the beginning that Harvey was perfectly capable of getting home. That was just an excuse.
It was ridiculous about how she made harvey seem like a invalid. He is a millionaire dentist. He cant afford and find a cab to get home. He is really that inept?
Donna ran all of their lives, including Harvey’s. She was the Domestic Coordinator. Harvey ceded control of his life to Donna Sue 50 years ago.
GOOD MORNING VIETNAMMMMM!!!
Thanks to Mentor Lawyer for these docs
The Adelsons's way of deflecting answers on the stand is enough to make them seem guilty. Innocent people will just answer questions clearly.
Exactly
Hi! Last video you read my comment- thank you! I am positively intrigued by this case as its circumstances, motives, economic class differences amongst the culprits and the distinguished victim and most obnoxious Adelson family with Wendi as the still uncharged evil manipulative chief player- it is dynamic and continues to evolve. Your coverage A+
Donna is going to be convicted. She has made huge mistakes. Big mistake in having Dan Rashcash for her attorney.
Dan actually is a decent lawyer, this family has just revealed themselves to be her they are
He just doesn't have much to work with.
isn’t he a white collar crime lawyer? odd choice to begin with.
@@Asidebar ras comes off as too urban. She should of gone with all local.
@@annm9589 Big difference between a decent attorney and good one. Would you only want a decent attorney representing you in a conspiracy to murder case that if convicted you are going to jail and will only leave dead in a body bag?
How did Katie know? Garcia called her and said it’s done. She said I know. But it was well before anyone else knew. Wendi?
Why do you look like Wendi? lol
We have nothing after all of these years to suggest anyone other than Wendi Joy Adelson.
I know, I am so stuck on this part. Only because of the time stamps that show she got to the scene AFTER Garcia called Katie. I *want* to believe it was her who notified Katie, but the time stamps don't lie. It's very odd. Maybe Luis is misremembering, but it seems like a very strange thing to say if it didn't actually happen.
I hate that the whole Whats App thing blocks detectives from getting good information about these cases. It sucks. Sorry but if you use Whats App instead of your normal phone, there's a reason, and it's shady lol
Great panel. !! Your the best coverage for this very important case Joel! Arrest Wendi now!
It's coming....
We are here for you Ruth! Sitting right next to you!
So Donna’s argument is going to be that- she couldn’t get the Sun Pass info because she wasn’t charged yet, BUT simultaneously she had a “joint defense agreement” already even though she wasn’t charged yet…? Hmmmm….
I think both, Donna and WENDY should go down.
Great show, great guests!
Great show, Joel & COE and guests! Excited Tim Jansen will be covering the trial with y'all! Thank you.
I love to see this family FINALLY being held responsible for their pure evil actions. Shame those children 😢
@@Just_ice_forvictims those children are going to have all kinds of issues.
Those children should live with their uncle. They need a strong male role model.
I am confused why this has taken so long - it was obvious from the beginning how much Donna was a leader in this murder- can someone tell me if they know
The kids should live with Dan‘s family so they can hear what a great person he is rather than extended family of Wendy where they would hear the opposite . In true crime cases this is always my pet peeve that a parents adult child is murdered by their spouse and the children go to the murderer, family, and not the family that lost the child😢
@@brendamarucci623 I'm sure Rob would set up a visit plan with the Markels
Prayers for Ruth, Phil, Shelley, Lincoln and Benjamin as this trial begins. It’s hard to fathom the staggering depth of loss that this family has endured.
Not to minimize Markell suffering, however thinking today aboutB&L.
First they lose their dad, then their uncle now their gma and possibly their mom! These poor boys. 😢
Such a tragedy …my heart goes out to this poor family …I really think W needs to be held accountable too
Limiting texts and phone data re D's car location etc. isn't so bad b/c the core crims, Louis/Sigfriedo/Katie, verify and expose all that went on. True, they're criminals but their stories are consistent and cohesive. Momma Donna is going down w/the rest of the murderers. This case is so pathetic: People get divorced every day and don't resort to such heinous and disgusting behavior.
The Adelsons are all about money, money, money. They have a weird obsession about the accumulation of money, from Charlie hoarding quarters for Harvey to the piles of money in their safe. Each pile belonged to a different individual, or two individuals, and they talked about moving money from one person's pile to another person's pile.
Perhaps it's their, ahem, religion? Cough cough....
And status. Every time Wendi mentions someone to Isom in her interview, she doesn't lead with their name, she leads with their occupation. He's a dentist, he's an attorney, she's a doctor, she's a professor, he's a podiatrist, she's a surgeon. Who effing cares in the middle of a murder investigation?! Take the stick out and give the relevant info! She does it at trial too. They ask her when she got married. Instead of saying the year, she says, well that was my 2nd year of law school, so it would be.....🙄🙄 Girl, relax. No one cares. Give the year and move on. You're not impressing anyone on this jury with your credentials.
Lol
@uThey worship The allmighty dollar.
Their spending habits are is idd, $8 million worth accumulated, enough to spend hundreds of thousands renting apartments in Miami (partly while owning a house there) lobster & the high life but she couldn’t book return tickets to Vietnam???
Watching with the replay crew ❤❤❤
Tim Jansen is THE TH-cam lawyer for this case 👏🏻😊 love it
He makes some good points, but he also said Katy Magbanua wouldn't testify, and if she did, she would easily be impeached. Someone else said that he also predicted Donna would not be charged. I like him, but he is a bit too cozy with Tallahassee to ever really speak his mind if he has a contrarian point of view. He is at his best when talking about cases outside of Tallahassee because there is no potential conflict. Of course, by being a Tallahassee insider he is one of the few that can offer solid info about dynamics that others outside of Tallahassee cannot offer.
I disagree. Imo Carl Steinbeck is the YT lawyer for this case.
Tim decided he would insult and undermine Carl on this channel, hence Carl is no longer a guest here. Very unprofessional by Jansen imo.
@@jonoharper4729 I forgot that they had a pretty big battle that got ugly, at least for here. Carl is very knowledgeable, but he is strictly an ABC type of guy and really doesn't have a good imagination. He can list a bunch of evidence, and has some good insights when he says stuff like....what are the odds, when talking about how unlikely certain actions would be made by an innocent person (that is normally my cup of tea), but his predictions about who is likely to be charged in this case, who would testify, etc., and how impactful that testimony would be, have not stood out more than anyone else.
Most all of the legal experts expected Charlie and even Katy Magbanua not to testify, and not a one of them, once Rashbaum said Charlie was going to testify, thought of the extortion defense, which is the only defense he can make there. Carl has never articulated the legit possibility that Donna found out after the murder. He lines up all of his evidence, but doesn't realize that almost all of it goes out the window if Donna didn't find out until shortly after the murder, then went along with Charlie's plan. He, like others, never even contemplates what is a legit possibility here. I definitely wouldn't want him prosecting me, because he piles up the points.
@@tomdallas3690
You seem to know the case and players well. I am not that knowledgeable but have dipped in and out of various channels to keep up to date.
I'm personally drawn to Attorneys that display high integrity, calm demeanor and articulate presentation of well researched facts. Carl Steinbeck is that imo.
I do think the facts and evidence are comprehensive and insurmountable for Donna. I'm open to hearing evidence that Donna only found out after the fact, but I haven't seen any. Imo she plays the matriarch role in that family, a dominant matriarch at that, and she was involved from the start, from inception to planning and now through to this point. Thanks for your insights and detailed response 😊
@@jonoharper4729 I agree that Carl appears to have very strong character. I am just a bit critical of all here because the evidence against Donna is simply not as strong as has been portrayed for what has been about ten months. They have simply repeated tons of evidence against her, but really have never thought of the possibility of how weak that evidence would be if she in fact, found out shortly after the murder. It is as if they never contemplate it at all. There is no smoking gun against Donna, that makes me sure she knew about the murder plan when she made Wendi's Best Buy appointment. Without proving that, I think she has to be innocent, no matter how much people hate her, and no matter how much she hated Dan Markel.
I'm starting to understand the STS haters, of which there are increasingly more. Joel often doesn't even listen to his guests. One of his guests will give a brilliant answer to his question and instead of acknowledging it, Joel will opt to immediately segue into an anecdote about his dog. 🤦♀️
@@lorismith5369 It's rude of Joel. It is what it is and has nothing to do with whether I'm mean or not.
If you don't like it, find a different channel. The side tangents are what most of us love about this channel. Joel is hilarious and it's fun to hear all the extra stuff. Better than boring, dry, reporting. I love this channel. Sadly I had to take a break when they covered Karen Read b/c she's guilty as hell and they seemed to have leaned into the conspiracy crap, but I'm so happy to be back for Donna's trial. Why even be here and be angry and annoyed with the coverage? Life is too short. Find a channel you love and don't sit here and be miserable, only to leave hurtful comments.
@@lisainthelababsolutely!
Joel does a great job and does an unbelievable job of running things smoothly. For example, when he asks a question, he will then say whatever guests name, then ask it again, so that nobody else jumps in first. In fact, I have never heard two guests try to speak at the same time, which is miraculous. Plus, he is glancing at the live chat like most are, and probably fielding inquiries from his wife (C.O.E). My only complaint is that he, like basically everyone else, is way too rah rah on the Justice for Dan narrative. He doesn't ever have a show, for example, like the top 5 reasons Donna might NOT be guilty. I mean, nobody ever contemplates the other side of these things. Obviously, my pet peeve is the lazy Vietnam narrative, and Joel hasn't really considered the other side of that....just like almost every guest.
There is a small chance Donna didn't find out about Charlie's plans until right after the murder. If that is the case, Donna is innocent, and the facts about Vietnam are exactly the same whether she is innocent or guilty...fleeing an indictment in this exact scenario, if innocent, is totally logical. He runs a good show. He has a ton of reasons to be biased, and will admit as much. I think he has stated that the show's purpose is somewhat of a Justice for Dan Markel show. He's afraid, as is everyone else, to offer any type of criticism at all to Dan Markel or his family. I get it, but it gets old, because there is fascinating info out there about this battle that led to Dan's murder. We have to find it out on our own, I guess.
@@tomdallas3690 Seriously you can believe what you want. I don't know who you are and why you keep pushing the 'Donna didn't find out until after the murder" train. Every single one of your comments or questions pertains to that same exact narrative. Your question has been asked and answered multiple times. The evidence is all there. If you still don't believe Donna conspired on the murder, then good luck with that bridge you're going to buy. Nobody does a show on reasons why Donna might not have done it because it would be a very short show.
Mentour Lawuer has info. Sara saw Phil M, cried, and reached out saying she had possibly incriminating info.
Wow
Yes. I'm.betting she will testify that Wendi said something to her that will get wendi arrested right after donnas conviction.
@@uraigroves7898 sounds like it was text messages or emails, which is even better, because it's in black and white and they can't accuse her of lying. Can't wait to see what it says.
If it is that incriminating, it could be during the trial.
@@uraigroves7898 Everything Wendi has said indicates guilt. There can't be a bigger bombshell than her comments to Lacasse about his trip, followed by her drive to Trescott shortly after the murder. Well, I guess there can, but those two facts I mentioned are enough to send her to prison alone.
??? Do you think Rashbaum is doing three way calls with his “clients” so Donna and Charlie can talk to each other???
Wow. That's a good question!!!
Yes, absolutely. They murdered Dan. They have no scruples regarding a few phone calls
They aren’t loyal to Rash for his results or acuity as an attorney.. it’s his lack of morals and integrity… the fact that he’s willing to bring forward a defense filed with blatant lies.
Good point why they're both using him?
Very possible. If not he could be sending messages between them back and forth.
!!SCOTT radius called prosecutor immediatly to warn her they are planning g on coming to Vietnam!!! Its in those same docs!!!
Good discussion thanks!
Why Donna and Harvey Addison didn’t buy a round trip European ticket perhaps to Paris. Then once in Paris buy tickets to Vietnam? Hewever, law enforcement had other pre-trip information that the two Addison’s were in the process of fleeing.
Because they could've been watching for them at the Paris airport having gotten a heads up of their flight plans. She was trying to breathe a sigh of relief once on a flight to a country without extradition
It will be interesting to see if her husband Harvey attend the trial.
He's afraid of getting arrested so he won't be there ...again
I wonder if the fact that none of them came to Charlie's trial had an influence in his conviction
@@Asidebar husband should be there!
@@flpinthecity2140 Regardless of wherever Harvey is he can be arrested.
Full credit to Mentour Lawyer for obtaining this new evidence. Also, saying "sorry to interrupt" before interrupting does not excuse interrupting. Just shut it until others have finished what they're saying. It's not that hard.
I think at some point she told Sarah she had a death wish for Dan when she was really having a meltdown and it slipped out of her
If Donna’s phone actually had texts confirming without a doubt that Wendi was involved when would that actually come out? At Donna’s trial or would they keep the lid on it? Or would they have already arrested Wendi?
Watching from Cape Town, South Africa! Love your show and patiently waiting for Wendi to go down!😮
SCOTT R. WARNED GEORGIA.
Nope, nope, nope, NOPE! Rashbaum completely knows Donna and Charlie and Wendi are LYING! Come on Joel.
COE we love you and you are amazing handling a lot family and work !!!
Replay crew. I hope this trial doesn't drag on. Justice for the Markels.
Tim! I see your face... I watch immediately.
Thank you Mentor Lawyer
Quick Question. Would Wendy have moved to Texas to escape the new Florida law that would allow her sons to see and know Danny’s parents? If that is the reason, that is beyond cruel.
You have to understand that the Adelsons see themselves as victims here. Since that is the case, and their family is destroyed because of Dan Markel's actions, you cannot expect them to give an inch to the grandparents. It makes perfect sense from their perspective. They had Dan Markel killed because in their minds, he was a horrific person.
Because it was enacted after the fact, it would not apply to them.
Love this show sooo much ! Greetings from BOISE! If only we had a delete button for haters ! I guys keep up the great work! Joel for president !
Watching from Albuquerque, NEW MEXICO
Misha Janice on her channel already had the court response to the motion to dismiss. It was released today. It WILL NOT be dismissed
18:10 can the guests stop giving help and hints to Rash's defense
2:31 Tim is amazing ❤❤❤
A. L. W. A. Y. S
Joel is always “sorry to interrupt” - nope he is not. Joel should stop apologizing for interrupting because clearly he loves to do it and is not capable of stopping.
OMG Timmy, that grin was gold when Steph became a member. Hey Steph!🤩
Tim looks 20 years younger! Lost some weight, got a tan, haircut.. Looking good Tim 👍
Jessica ends so many statements with right….such an unnecessary word
It’s a “thing” these days. Sooooo annoying. Once you notice it you can’t unhear it 🤨🤨🤨
Ya right?
It's better than being someone who's so rude that they would leave comments like this that accomplish nothing but hurt people's feelings.
It’s so annoying, for an educated person, she should learn to be a better public speaker. 🙉
@@jainaberger3506 Very kind. Such a kind, thoughtful thing to say.
The first sentence in this text on 11/7/23 is: “Charlie has been found guilty.” and then Harvey asked about Charlie’s place being available.
Jessica said right 67 times.
Ugh! Remember asking our daughter to recognize the many times that she said “like”. She was horrified and quickly stopped! 🙃
It’s the vocal fry for me.
One day I was listening to STS while I was cleaning the pool. It happened to be a really cold day In Florida, like 40 degrees. My IPhone 11 slipped out of my pocket and went to the bottom of the deep end..I stood there & watched as it was still playing STS under the water. I dropped the pole with the skimmer net & I jumped in(clothes and shoes on) to retrieve it..haha..didn’t occur to me I coulda just scooped it up with the net. At any rate, that was like a year ago & the phone still works perfectly. Phones are pretty sturdy these days even a 5-6 year old phones! So I disagree with the guest who said if you drop your phone in water you need to back up your data and get a new phone right away.
Joel love your videos very exciting now . Hope wendi is next
Joan Hopkins Ireland 🇮🇪
Donna's appearance IS AN ACT!!!!!!
I wonder if Scott will send the money to Mr. And Mrs. Markel if Donna is convicted?! 🤔
Jessica thank you.
There is absolutely no way for Wendi to deny involvement when you have Jeff being set up as the fall guy. There’s just no way to explain that as a coincidence. She was very much involved IMO
Right Jessica, right. That's right.
Judge gull just said geo fencing is not allowed to be used in the Delphi case. She said it's not accurate. She took away all of the defense's ability to challenge the state's dumbness
Is she says “right” one more time my heads going to explode
I said the same thing!!😮
My friend and I are taking a shot every time she does, we’re pretty plastered 🤪🤪
That's nice. I'm sure she'll feel very hurt to read this. If that was your intention, yay for you. You hurt someone today.
@@lisainthelablisa nope educated someone today❤
Yes. While foreign ownership of land in Vietnam is prohibited, foreigners can invest in real estate entities connected to land through leaseholds. These entities, such as apartments or villas within developments, come with long-term lease agreements, typically lasting for decades.
@Tim Janson … Couldn’t Fifth Amendment self-Incrimination issues be asserted by Donna Addison concerning why she didn’t request law enforcement collect and/or preserve time sensitive information?
24:51 Tim H Is very handsome ( i admit i have a crush, smart, a family man, and true gentleman 😍)
I think he lost weight over the last half a year or so. He has been getting lots of those comments, but I don't remember him getting them before the weight loss. For whatever reason, the weight loss, since it is really showing up in the face, has made him a matinee idol of sorts. I say...good for him.
Sealed is about the brothers testimony 😊😊
What are the chances Harvey will be in a memory care facility and unable to be tried?
JESSICA, stop saying RIGHT. It’s driving me nuts.
Wow😮 I’m ashamed of myself. Sorry
There are new texts. Clearly you didn’t have any patience.
Surely Katherine Magbanua can tell us what involvement Wendy and Donna had in the murder?
Sarah Yucef came to the Markels attorneys and later to Georgia. Thats what Mentour Lawyer read...
I'm sorry once again you guys get off track, pretty often 😮
If you don't like it, find a different channel. The side tangents are what most of us love about this channel. Joel is hilarious and it's fun to hear all the extra stuff. Better than a boring, dry, reporter.
@lisainthelab Listen, Lady, I'm not talking to you, and I most certainly know what I can do or not do. It's an opinion, I've listened before, I didn't say it wasn't good, they get off track and there are some others just like this and some more equally balanced with commentary that pretty much stay on the subject but in no way boring. This isn't your business. Some welcome different opinions and look at what they might need to improve, and they should always want to be better . So mind your own business and you do you!!
@@lisainthelab Calm down. What is wrong with you?
Joel Is a pain in the ass, here for Tim. @@lisainthelab
If Donna takes a plea would it be easier to convict Wendy Fibbers Adelson?
Donna will never take a plea - not Ben an Alford plea so it’s moot but it would be hard to think the mother and brother had your husband murdered without your knowledge.
Great panel!!! Have we heard John Sawicki's opinion on the timing of "Hos long to die in cold"?
Tips for the COE: When I walk through the door, I hang my purse on a hook. If I don't have it, that's where it is. For the cell phone, I just have my husband call me.
The hot mic, question , "Do you think she(Wendi) will tell on you?"
That implicates Wendi's guilty knowledge that Donna has done the deed of murder!
That statement puts Wendi in the mix.
I’d definitely prefer an STS halftime show than the garbage they give us
With all the. Money Donna has it was pretty simple to just move closer to her grandchildren!
It wasn’t about that. She wanted to be the mother - raise them her way and “win”. No way she was moving to Tally.
Yes it’s a tracker my granddaughter has one in her helmet
9:22 I just linked a higher courts decision on Expert Testimony on a video I just loaded. And absolutely the court said an expert is someone with more knowledgeable then average person. That can add value and probative evidence.
Tim Jansen looking SKINNY 😮
O O Ooozempic 🎵🎶🎵 😆
The name Tallahassee comes from the Muskogean language and is derived from the words "talwa" for town and "hasi" for old. It translates to "old fields" or "old town". The Apalachee Indians, who lived in the area in the 16th century, were the first to give the name to the area.
iPhones these days are water resistant. I’ve dropped my iPhone 12 in water and done nothing to it, it worked and is still working many years later
Good show! Joel, as someone who has ADHD, I have to make a Designated Home for
E v e r y t h i n g. And I Make myself Use the system. It's challenging at first; but then it gets to be second nature like knowing every time where the forks go. If it's really bad, AirTags.
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And
A little bit of tough love...😬 Jessica- since your friends aren't stepping up for you, I'll take the hit.
You have a pattern of speech that's become a crutch-habit that you may want to look at, right? Especially in professional situations, right? Because it has a way of undermining your authority, right, and I bet you've worked pretty hard, right, to get where you are for that to happen, right? If you don't feel the gravity of this, right, just get a pencil & listen to this podcast, and make hashmarks for each time it's said. 😉
I know this, because that was my crutch, as well.~*
I'm sure I'm missing something.... But, with all the previous convictions and now Donna going to trial, when or why isn't Wendy and Harvey not locked up? Surely, we don't have to wait for one at a time. That could take even more years. The family needs closure, my prayers for them.
01:18:50 😅
BC here!
Wow look at you Tim - you are looking so good 👏👏
There’s no Phil’s on this show. Maybe this comment was meant for another show?!
@@Jennifermcintyreno I must have had a senior moment - it was meant for Tim Jansen 😵💫😵💫
Tallahassee means “Seven Hills.” Way better than Rat’s Mouth. Sorry, Boca.
Charlie, time to give up mom & sis.
Missed the live, but I can attest to the fact that Tim's handsomeness only gets better the larger the screen 😉
Can someone tell Jessica that she uses the word right way too often when she talks. Right?
I know, right?? 😅
Why would Robert adelson be deposed or testify for this trial and not any of the other trials ??
Because they think he will help with this case.....
He was on the witness lists of the other trials too but didn't get called to testify. So he may not get called for this one either. If he does though, it makes sense, because obviously he has more information about Donna Adelson than about Katie/Sigfredo/Luis.
The lady on your panel needs to stop saying "right" all the time, annoying!!
She is going to be like Telles "loose lips sink ships"
For for COE I have a cross body strap for my phone (Amazon) which is amazing ..keeps ya hands free
Don't they just need the SIM card to get info off phone?
Looks like Tim's on Ozempic.
Please say something about Dan Markel. 🇬🇧
Hello from Grand Junction, Colorado!!
……lol….@Tim’s wife comment 😂😂😂👍🏻