I have the M3 highland and used to have the same issue with engaging/dis-engaging autopilot. There is definitely a knack to it. You need to push the button twice but hold the button down for a split second for each press. Just clicking it twice does not really work. Once I started doing that it now activates/deactivates as expected each time.
One thing that irritates me is that the image recognition software doesn't recognize 110 kmh speed limit signs, but only sometimes gets 110 limit from the EU map. Also, it often happens that it doesn't know it has left a habitation, and the speed stays at 30, 40 or 50 kmh for a long time before getting new info from somewhere. Hope they can fix this too, and provide a feedback mechanism.
Björn, with the 2024.32.5 you don’t have to turn the steering wheel anymore during AP! The camera is watching and just wants to see that you have a hand or at least 2 fingers at the wheel and that you look forewards! That is a nice improvement. Unfortunately with version 32.6 it doesn’t work at night time anymore.
yes the inserts between the spokes can be removed. Impacts the consumption! Looks better but consumes more! Just as a reference I did get 19.1 at an average of 120.1km/h during a 1h28m trip with two adults + two kids and packing with my 24 3P with the aero bits still in place in the wheels. It was around 22-23C. Really liking my 24 3P, but no stalks, no real 360, no sensors/radar and the phantom braking sucks! In my daily commute I have stopped using the adaptive cruise!
Björn, since April, I've been using a new TM3SR for 25,000 kilometers, not only have I gotten used to the direction indicator on the steering wheel and the direction switch on the display, but when I switch to another car, I involuntarily reach for it with my thumb when turning. I think that if car building had not started with turn signal levers, but with buttons on the steering wheel, then this would be normal. Anyway, I love your videos, you're cool! :-)
I didn't find them too much of a problem on my test drive. So it's easy to believe the comments here. I liked the car, the only thing is I don't really need one currently... But if the situation would change then it's still top of my list.
9:17 All teslas (plus a few other brands) seem to slow down several places on that stretch whether on autopilot or TACC. It's a combination of bad maps (blame Statens Vegvesen), and bad interpretation of those maps by the navigation software. The Norwegian base maps that most navigation software relies on is generally of poor quality. Other countries' authorities provide better base maps. Nonetheless, Tesla should be able to deal with both high and low quality base maps.
I don't get it why Tesla maps are so outdated when every vehicle is de facto mapper. They could datamine up to date maps from fleet data all the time. But they just don't give a shit, all focus is in US FSD.
Purchased a used 2022 model 3 standard a month ago. Watching your videos really helps compare the competition, really makes the choice clear. The superiority is immense!
@@jayem8981 seems pretty well perfect to me, I'm not out here buying a 15k car and expecting 90k quality! Any way what really matters is the user experience, infotainment and drive train. Pretty sure not many can come close
@@jayem8981 Why would I care about fit and finish superiority before anything else? Does it make the car more useful? No. Does it make the car safer? No. Does it make the car more affordable? No. I'd argue that it's completely useless that my panel gaps are even. What if they were slightly uneven? Nothing...
Hi. Also the close rear opening button on my Model Y only accept firm presses. Yes I know there is a beep sound when pressed correct. But I once believed I pressed this button correct in a parking basement. But I did not and the tailgate rammed the ceiling when leaving the lot. So in general better button quality in Model S ?
Hi Bjørn, I've gotten some really impressive efficiency figures too from my M3P. Just a quick question, you write the capacity of being 74,5. However, in my S3XY commander app, it shows the nominal net to be 78kWh.
Wonderful viedo, once again. Thank you. Only I wanted to order S3XY buttons, and the referral link did not give any discounts...is it too late maybe? THX
Thanks, Bjørn, great fun and informative, as always! I find it funny when you are upset with Tesla's new turn signal button style (instead of the usual stalks). Driving the Model 3 Highland myself for a year now, I feel fully adapted and honestly do not look back to my old cars with stalks. I wonder why you don't seem to get used to it as easily as I did. Did you check out the SEXY stalks? I originally planned buying those, as I also planned buying some of those behind-the-wheel dashboards, but I quickly realized I wouldn't need any of those. Nevertheless, a review would be nice, I'd advocate for SEXY sponsoring you some of those stalks -- if only to finally shut you up moaning about missing them of course! ;-)
Björn, as you are a BEV tester and you drive every day a different car I understand your hate on the stalkless design, but believe me, if you just drive this car, you would love the stalkless design and would not want to the stalks back again! I drive a Highland since March, my wife a ModelY and I just love my stalkless design, in most situations it is superior, but yes, not in all. It is different and you have to retrain your muscle memory and that doesn’t happen in a test drive.
@@hardywoodaway9912 what car did a pretty scientific test with ALL highland models on a closed circuit and the RWD LR spanked all other cars.. even the RWD SR which was very surprising. Maybe they have a different motor in it, no ideea how it would be more efficient while weighing more
I think it's range for 75% of battery, charging speed for filling up 75% of battery and that gives charging distance per hour of charging I guess, something like that. Edit: Except that for the "75% range" calculation Bjorn uses the formula "calculated max range" x 0.65. I think he's leaving a margin of error there or something.
I don’t know for sure, but my gut feeling says that in real life you usually use around 75% of the battery (5% to 80% SoC) and to have a more realistic figure how much you can drive before charging, and how fast you can charge.
@@ingerasulffs ok I figured it out, it is 65%, 75-10% range driving for the first column. The second value is minutes to charge back from 10% to 75%. The third value is range/minute*60(equals the amount of added km per hour of charging).
I’m dreading this when I pick up my new Model 3 soon. Fact is, it’s still the best EV on the road by a country mile, but a real shame I just know I’ll hate it. Just sounds dangerous I hear people talking about looking for the buttons whilst manoeuvring.
It will deffer from one person to other. I had a test drive awhile back and to be honest it took 2 roundabouts to become natural and after that Ifelt like I was driving this car for years ,not minutes @Anonymouslyme1
What is the mark between front and back doors on the Tesla please, it looks like and air bubble but it’s on loads of them (if not all) so assume it’s there for a reason ?😃
Very true. I LOVE this car. ANY CAR I've owned, often costing up to double, was absolute TRASH in comparison. Only tesla can manfacture such a diamond for a crazy affordible price, thanks to all their manufacturing inventions, they have created over 20 hard years. It is paying off 100 fold now.
@@rs4rsq my former workmate said that in his Tesla it is advertised as getting 320 mile range he said with only him in it he gets about 280 but when he went away with his brother and wife’s with luggage it went down to only just over 200 miles
How is that impressive? 520km maximum range at 90km/h is not enough for a €60k car, even if it has more power. The Ioniq 6N will slightly beat it and will also be a much better performance car overall. It will smoke everything under 100k price tag. Still not enough range tho. The electric Mercedes AMG CLA will probably achieve 620km or more here under similar conditions, a full 100km more range than the Model 3 Performance + it should also handle better than the Model 3 (but should be behind the Ioniq 6N which is more race track focussed).
You can thank TH-camrs like Björn for accepting this and thinking that promoting sales of accessories for standard features is a good thing. They should stop making videos about their cars. No matter how much more efficient a tesla is it’s not gonna be worth the stupidity of removing essential controls imho.
@@ricob.4962 Current FSD is a gimmick for Californians. It'll never work in winter. It's just ridiculous that you can sell a car which you have to buy essential parts yourself. I wonder how much Tesla charges for these parts.
@@thenerdysk8er I am not here to argue about something minor with strangers from the internet, but in order to progress forward, maybe one should see the bigger picture and this will be the right decision after all - we will see. As far as I know Tesla did not remove the steering wheel (just yet).
Not buying another one because of the fixed headrests in the front seats. I don't care if they are meant to look sporty. Maybe it's just me but I hate the way they push my head forward.
The Model 3 is now looking very dated compared to the many incoming Chinese brands that look amazing and have fantastic tech as standard. Unfortunately Elon Musk is tarnishing the Tesla brand more and more every day as well as alienating many potential new Tesla customers, due to his very public political views and leanings. Of course he is entitled to his views and no doubt many people will continue to blindly support him, but I hope for Tesla's future that he cops himself on a bit and instead concentrates on his obligations as Tesla CEO in making Tesla the multifaceted behemoth of a company that it deserves to be.
best except for stupid (interior) design decisions.. why on earth would you remove stalks. Fortunately the competition is closing in fast, so you don't have to buy Tesla, to get a good EV.
Probably the best ev from a range point of view, but one of the scariest, narcissistic CEO's out there unfortunately which I could never support financially
Do you know what the other CEOs are like? Probably not? Elon makes it clear he's a nut, that doesn't mean the others aren't even worse. Also Elon basically does nothing at the company of 140,000 people and he only owned like 15% of the shares.
@@RickyLourenco Not if we don't accept it and avoid the product. If he's financially impacted he'll go back to normal and the people at Tesla can continue to develop great products
Is Tesla very good and the best?? Well I never have driving a Tesla but I read many failure with it and panel gaps and rattle box comments all of the time. Long service time, well one car is absolute not the best to own it's Renault Zoe if it purcased by Motor Forum they never set up annual service ether. Need to do anything with the car by my self, getting parts and do the maintance self. It's a reason I want fossil fuel car again but not running on fossil fuel but used oil from food industry. Don't quite know yet what it will be.
Difficult times. The best cars from a company with a formerly smart CEO and main owner who derailed and supports a misogynistic, lying, antihuman, grifting Nazi make it a hard sell right now. It's a shame. Would you rather buy a worse car from another bad CEO/company or no car? What do you think?
You are wrong and Musk is based and right just about everything. You need to improve your ideology and start listening to him. In the end, he is a lot smarter and have way more information than most of the people criticizing him.
Musk is a moron, but I own a Tesla because it's superior to every other manufacturer. Musk it not responsible for the product but rather a great team of engineers. I test drove a lot of competition and always came away with the idea that it was compromised. The only ev that I considered was the Kia EV9, but it's much bigger and crazy expensive. In the end, I will buy a Tesla so that other manufacturers wake up and catch-up!
@@davetravels9273 I do not agree. Musk is far based and smarter also having access to a lot more information than the majority of people criticizing him. He is also the major reason Tesla exists at all and superior to anyone else.
That’s exactly what folk used to say regarding the central screen, until they got used to it then it was a non issue. The same is true for no indicator storks, it’s weird at first but then you get used to it. Now I prefer it.
@@robo19681963 I get that perspective/lived experience. You do 'get used to things'. But firstly, why do i have to? And secondly, that's no comfort to my wife who only ever drives the car very occasionally late at night driving me home from the pub! She hasn't 'bonded' with my current M3P in over 4 years, so this will be a deal breaker.
Tesla is the product of the horrible Musk. Therefore any other EV car has a natural advantage. Best wishes from a half-Norwegian and half-English UK citizen. I would buy a Chinese EV before Tesla, but will not. I'll get something made in the EU. Best wishes from George inn UK
Yeah right lol. Do you support Hyundai & Kia's use of child labor, VW and Uyghur forced labor, pretty much every manufacturer involved in diesel gate. No company always acts morally correct. Musk and I don't align politically however that doesn't make their products inherently bad.
@@c-fb As far as I know Starmer has not made any EVs, so your point is a little wide of the mark. Most politicians have a few skeletons hidden in their closet so I do not spend a lot of time comparing and contrasting! Best wishes from George
Björn, as you are a BEV tester and you drive every day a different car I understand your hate on the stalkless design, but believe me, if you just drive this car, you would love the stalkless design and would not want to the stalks back again! I drive a Highland since March, my wife a ModelY and I just love my stalkless design, in most situations it is superior, but yes, not in all. It is different and you have to retrain your muscle memory and that doesn’t happen in a test drive.
1:53 "it slices through the air like butter through cheese"
I'm going to use that
This one made me laugh out loud 😂
Your first Bjørn Nyland video ? 😅
@@kehletten I’ve watched Bjørn for years and I still laughed at this one 😄
@@pepstein 😊 it also still is funny
The trick is to do 2 clicks, with a small pause in between clicks and not a quick double click
Exactly
I also noticed that on my car but it should work both ways. Double click and 2 clicks (double click like my mother would do) 😂
I found that pressing too hard causes a misread. Just press hard enough for a click with a pause between clicks. also wish it still had stalks.
the new LR RWD would be more interesting!
I have the M3 highland and used to have the same issue with engaging/dis-engaging autopilot. There is definitely a knack to it. You need to push the button twice but hold the button down for a split second for each press. Just clicking it twice does not really work. Once I started doing that it now activates/deactivates as expected each time.
What i that? In a car you press once. Like what?
One thing that irritates me is that the image recognition software doesn't recognize 110 kmh speed limit signs, but only sometimes gets 110 limit from the EU map.
Also, it often happens that it doesn't know it has left a habitation, and the speed stays at 30, 40 or 50 kmh for a long time before getting new info from somewhere.
Hope they can fix this too, and provide a feedback mechanism.
Recent experience with Highland and the auto gear select is awesome… must have seatbelt on first for it to engage.
Björn, with the 2024.32.5 you don’t have to turn the steering wheel anymore during AP! The camera is watching and just wants to see that you have a hand or at least 2 fingers at the wheel and that you look forewards! That is a nice improvement. Unfortunately with version 32.6 it doesn’t work at night time anymore.
yes the inserts between the spokes can be removed. Impacts the consumption! Looks better but consumes more!
Just as a reference I did get 19.1 at an average of 120.1km/h during a 1h28m trip with two adults + two kids and packing with my 24 3P with the aero bits still in place in the wheels. It was around 22-23C.
Really liking my 24 3P, but no stalks, no real 360, no sensors/radar and the phantom braking sucks!
In my daily commute I have stopped using the adaptive cruise!
Nice test Bjørn! Tusen takk
Björn, since April, I've been using a new TM3SR for 25,000 kilometers, not only have I gotten used to the direction indicator on the steering wheel and the direction switch on the display, but when I switch to another car, I involuntarily reach for it with my thumb when turning. I think that if car building had not started with turn signal levers, but with buttons on the steering wheel, then this would be normal. Anyway, I love your videos, you're cool! :-)
Same Same
Me too! I don't need stalks anymore
I didn't find them too much of a problem on my test drive. So it's easy to believe the comments here. I liked the car, the only thing is I don't really need one currently... But if the situation would change then it's still top of my list.
Same and I do feel it's easier to signal
Would love it to have turn signals on the steering wheel Ferrari style (physical buttons at 10am and 2pm)
I hope you get a chance to test the long range rear wheel drive version 😊
Nice hat!!
I suppose it has a "-" pole on the back? Would be really cool :)
I wish we had nice pristine roads like that in the US!
9:17 All teslas (plus a few other brands) seem to slow down several places on that stretch whether on autopilot or TACC. It's a combination of bad maps (blame Statens Vegvesen), and bad interpretation of those maps by the navigation software. The Norwegian base maps that most navigation software relies on is generally of poor quality. Other countries' authorities provide better base maps. Nonetheless, Tesla should be able to deal with both high and low quality base maps.
I don't get it why Tesla maps are so outdated when every vehicle is de facto mapper. They could datamine up to date maps from fleet data all the time. But they just don't give a shit, all focus is in US FSD.
@@tapsa0 Yeah, they are focusing on US and China atm, all hands on deck on both those countries for FSD.
Purchased a used 2022 model 3 standard a month ago. Watching your videos really helps compare the competition, really makes the choice clear. The superiority is immense!
If all you care about is efficiency then yes. If you’re looking for fit and finish superiority, Tesla is far from the best.
@@jayem8981 seems pretty well perfect to me, I'm not out here buying a 15k car and expecting 90k quality! Any way what really matters is the user experience, infotainment and drive train. Pretty sure not many can come close
@@wrefkFor the price, no doubt Tesla is in the lead in terms of value in many ways.
@@jayem8981 Why would I care about fit and finish superiority before anything else?
Does it make the car more useful? No.
Does it make the car safer? No.
Does it make the car more affordable? No.
I'd argue that it's completely useless that my panel gaps are even. What if they were slightly uneven? Nothing...
How much did you pay for it ?
I'm sure you're fed up with M3 rwd LR test requests by now, so why not 'just do it'?
Bjørn, does this hat have a "-" pole on the back? You can signal with it "I'm positive today" or "I'm negative" 😏
Hi. Also the close rear opening button on my Model Y only accept firm presses. Yes I know there is a beep sound when pressed correct. But I once believed I pressed this button correct in a parking basement. But I did not and the tailgate rammed the ceiling when leaving the lot. So in general better button quality in Model S ?
Hi Bjørn, I've gotten some really impressive efficiency figures too from my M3P. Just a quick question, you write the capacity of being 74,5. However, in my S3XY commander app, it shows the nominal net to be 78kWh.
That's with buffers below 0 %. I don't count that buffer.
Wonderful viedo, once again. Thank you. Only I wanted to order S3XY buttons, and the referral link did not give any discounts...is it too late maybe? THX
I’d still love to see a ‘sports’ m3 with rwd, lfp battery, sports suspension and seats and 400hp. That’s all I need.
Thanks, Bjørn, great fun and informative, as always!
I find it funny when you are upset with Tesla's new turn signal button style (instead of the usual stalks). Driving the Model 3 Highland myself for a year now, I feel fully adapted and honestly do not look back to my old cars with stalks. I wonder why you don't seem to get used to it as easily as I did.
Did you check out the SEXY stalks? I originally planned buying those, as I also planned buying some of those behind-the-wheel dashboards, but I quickly realized I wouldn't need any of those. Nevertheless, a review would be nice, I'd advocate for SEXY sponsoring you some of those stalks -- if only to finally shut you up moaning about missing them of course! ;-)
Björn, as you are a BEV tester and you drive every day a different car I understand your hate on the stalkless design, but believe me, if you just drive this car, you would love the stalkless design and would not want to the stalks back again!
I drive a Highland since March, my wife a ModelY and I just love my stalkless design, in most situations it is superior, but yes, not in all. It is different and you have to retrain your muscle memory and that doesn’t happen in a test drive.
Bjorn, when Model Y LR RWD review please?👍
with same tires there is almost zero difference to the awd version in consumption
@@hardywoodaway9912 what car did a pretty scientific test with ALL highland models on a closed circuit and the RWD LR spanked all other cars.. even the RWD SR which was very surprising. Maybe they have a different motor in it, no ideea how it would be more efficient while weighing more
When u test drive new model X ?
Already tested it. Videos coming soon.
10:14 can anyone, or Bjorn, explain the meaning of 75% range/charging/km/h? Dankeschon
I think it's range for 75% of battery, charging speed for filling up 75% of battery and that gives charging distance per hour of charging I guess, something like that.
Edit: Except that for the "75% range" calculation Bjorn uses the formula "calculated max range" x 0.65. I think he's leaving a margin of error there or something.
I don’t know for sure, but my gut feeling says that in real life you usually use around 75% of the battery (5% to 80% SoC) and to have a more realistic figure how much you can drive before charging, and how fast you can charge.
@@Manu-P8 it doesn't add up, I tried multipling per 0.75, it's something else
@@eirythma9404 it's multiplied by 0.65 for some reason. Perhaps Bjorn can clarify for us?
@@ingerasulffs ok I figured it out, it is 65%, 75-10% range driving for the first column.
The second value is minutes to charge back from 10% to 75%.
The third value is range/minute*60(equals the amount of added km per hour of charging).
We are holding off on the 2025 MY Ludicrious.
In the UK, with roundabouts everywhere, the lack of an indicator stalk is dangerous.
I’m dreading this when I pick up my new Model 3 soon. Fact is, it’s still the best EV on the road by a country mile, but a real shame I just know I’ll hate it. Just sounds dangerous I hear people talking about looking for the buttons whilst manoeuvring.
It will deffer from one person to other. I had a test drive awhile back and to be honest it took 2 roundabouts to become natural and after that Ifelt like I was driving this car for years ,not minutes @Anonymouslyme1
Yeah they are baby!
Phantom speeddropps is bad!
The cabin camera is sheet!
Niiiiiiice
What is the mark between front and back doors on the Tesla please, it looks like and air bubble but it’s on loads of them (if not all) so assume it’s there for a reason ?😃
Im pretty sure it's a camera. Some have it in front of the driver door and some have it in between the doors.
its the side camera
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated
Not that many cars which can achieve WLTP 528 km range in winter (Nyland winter test 521)
A lot of cars can achieve 520km of range
Very true. I LOVE this car. ANY CAR I've owned, often costing up to double, was absolute TRASH in comparison. Only tesla can manfacture such a diamond for a crazy affordible price, thanks to all their manufacturing inventions, they have created over 20 hard years. It is paying off 100 fold now.
So it is about as efficient as the Volkswagen ID.3 GTX
Why do all people who do this range test always do it with only one person in the car instead of 4 people with luggage
I understand that is not to much of a difference.. 5% maybe..?
The weight makes almost no difference at all with an EV.
@@rs4rsq my former workmate said that in his Tesla it is advertised as getting 320 mile range he said with only him in it he gets about 280 but when he went away with his brother and wife’s with luggage it went down to only just over 200 miles
maps in Europe are outdated, Tesla, wake up!
Software company making Cars And this Is happening? Jeesh
Tell Google they use Google maps
w vid
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The less power is wasted, the more power to the wheels...
Impressive how it spanks all the "Tesla killers" at half the temperature outside 😂
How is that impressive? 520km maximum range at 90km/h is not enough for a €60k car, even if it has more power.
The Ioniq 6N will slightly beat it and will also be a much better performance car overall. It will smoke everything under 100k price tag. Still not enough range tho.
The electric Mercedes AMG CLA will probably achieve 620km or more here under similar conditions, a full 100km more range than the Model 3 Performance + it should also handle better than the Model 3 (but should be behind the Ioniq 6N which is more race track focussed).
@@Aztasu electric CLA does not exist. Ioniq 6N does not exist.
Nobody of sane mind will pay that much money for a Hyundai Ioniq 5N. It's a Hyundai..
That Tesla could have totally killed off all the competition, if only they'd listened....
Should be illegal to sell half-finished products. How much does indicator and shifter stalks cost from Tesla?
You can thank TH-camrs like Björn for accepting this and thinking that promoting sales of accessories for standard features is a good thing. They should stop making videos about their cars.
No matter how much more efficient a tesla is it’s not gonna be worth the stupidity of removing essential controls imho.
as soon as the car drives itself, there is no need for stalks
@@ricob.4962 Current FSD is a gimmick for Californians. It'll never work in winter. It's just ridiculous that you can sell a car which you have to buy essential parts yourself. I wonder how much Tesla charges for these parts.
@@ricob.4962 yes. Just like in airplanes, that have autonomous operation, remove any controls so manual operation is impossible. NOT
@@thenerdysk8er I am not here to argue about something minor with strangers from the internet, but in order to progress forward, maybe one should see the bigger picture and this will be the right decision after all - we will see. As far as I know Tesla did not remove the steering wheel (just yet).
Crybabies galore in the comments these days. MuSk hUrT mY fEeLiNgs. wHy No sTaLk
😂
Not buying another one because of the fixed headrests in the front seats. I don't care if they are meant to look sporty. Maybe it's just me but I hate the way they push my head forward.
The Model 3 is now looking very dated compared to the many incoming Chinese brands that look amazing and have fantastic tech as standard. Unfortunately Elon Musk is tarnishing the Tesla brand more and more every day as well as alienating many potential new Tesla customers, due to his very public political views and leanings. Of course he is entitled to his views and no doubt many people will continue to blindly support him, but I hope for Tesla's future that he cops himself on a bit and instead concentrates on his obligations as Tesla CEO in making Tesla the multifaceted behemoth of a company that it deserves to be.
best except for stupid (interior) design decisions.. why on earth would you remove stalks. Fortunately the competition is closing in fast, so you don't have to buy Tesla, to get a good EV.
Feel free to choose another one. Why remove stalks? Why did Apple remove floppy disks etc etc etc 😅
Probably the best ev from a range point of view, but one of the scariest, narcissistic CEO's out there unfortunately which I could never support financially
progress has a price
I mean VW came from Hitler, people have no trouble supporting VW.
You're just exercising "selective" outragism
Do you know what the other CEOs are like? Probably not? Elon makes it clear he's a nut, that doesn't mean the others aren't even worse. Also Elon basically does nothing at the company of 140,000 people and he only owned like 15% of the shares.
@@RickyLourenco Not if we don't accept it and avoid the product. If he's financially impacted he'll go back to normal and the people at Tesla can continue to develop great products
you need leadership. look Boeing
Is Tesla very good and the best?? Well I never have driving a Tesla but I read many failure with it and panel gaps and rattle box comments all of the time. Long service time, well one car is absolute not the best to own it's Renault Zoe if it purcased by Motor Forum they never set up annual service ether. Need to do anything with the car by my self, getting parts and do the maintance self. It's a reason I want fossil fuel car again but not running on fossil fuel but used oil from food industry. Don't quite know yet what it will be.
Difficult times. The best cars from a company with a formerly smart CEO and main owner who derailed and supports a misogynistic, lying, antihuman, grifting Nazi make it a hard sell right now. It's a shame. Would you rather buy a worse car from another bad CEO/company or no car? What do you think?
You are wrong and Musk is based and right just about everything. You need to improve your ideology and start listening to him. In the end, he is a lot smarter and have way more information than most of the people criticizing him.
Musk is a moron, but I own a Tesla because it's superior to every other manufacturer. Musk it not responsible for the product but rather a great team of engineers. I test drove a lot of competition and always came away with the idea that it was compromised. The only ev that I considered was the Kia EV9, but it's much bigger and crazy expensive. In the end, I will buy a Tesla so that other manufacturers wake up and catch-up!
@@davetravels9273 I do not agree. Musk is far based and smarter also having access to a lot more information than the majority of people criticizing him. He is also the major reason Tesla exists at all and superior to anyone else.
I quite simply won't consider a Tesla until it gets an indicator stalk. Total deal breaker.
That’s exactly what folk used to say regarding the central screen, until they got used to it then it was a non issue. The same is true for no indicator storks, it’s weird at first but then you get used to it. Now I prefer it.
@@robo19681963 I get that perspective/lived experience. You do 'get used to things'. But firstly, why do i have to? And secondly, that's no comfort to my wife who only ever drives the car very occasionally late at night driving me home from the pub! She hasn't 'bonded' with my current M3P in over 4 years, so this will be a deal breaker.
There are stalks in the after market if you feel inclined.
@@davetravels9273 yeah, buy a car then spend more money to make it right.
Can be the best but who wants to be associated with Musk these days? Bye bye Tesla 💔
Tesla is the product of the horrible Musk. Therefore any other EV car has a natural advantage.
Best wishes from a half-Norwegian and half-English UK citizen. I would buy a Chinese EV before Tesla, but will not. I'll get something made in the EU.
Best wishes from George inn UK
Yeah right lol. Do you support Hyundai & Kia's use of child labor, VW and Uyghur forced labor, pretty much every manufacturer involved in diesel gate. No company always acts morally correct. Musk and I don't align politically however that doesn't make their products inherently bad.
Yeah, Starmer is so much better
@@c-fb As far as I know Starmer has not made any EVs, so your point is a little wide of the mark.
Most politicians have a few skeletons hidden in their closet so I do not spend a lot of time comparing and contrasting!
Best wishes from George
First!!!
Björn, as you are a BEV tester and you drive every day a different car I understand your hate on the stalkless design, but believe me, if you just drive this car, you would love the stalkless design and would not want to the stalks back again!
I drive a Highland since March, my wife a ModelY and I just love my stalkless design, in most situations it is superior, but yes, not in all. It is different and you have to retrain your muscle memory and that doesn’t happen in a test drive.
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