Why Everyone Hates The Acolyte
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2024
- Disney Star Wars, The Acolyte... just when you thought Star Wars was dead, it goes and dies all over again.
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Sorry about the audio issues guys, my bad 💀
it's understandable, you were too flabbergasted by how bad the acolyte was.
I think the audio is fine 🤙🏽
At first I thought the "thread" was talking to me, telling me of what's to come.
I thought you were just performing a witch echo chant.
The power of MMMAAANNNNYYYYYYYY!!!!
I just thought my meds were hitting harder tonite...woah bro
It's like they're trying their hardest to prove Cartman right.
The “put a chick in it and make her lame and gay” thing!
More like Cartman just stated the obvious. The entire planet was already well aware.
@@PeopleRTheProblem South Park made fun of woke people 2 decades ago. The episode where Kyle's family moves to San Francisco and everyone is sniffing their farts is from 2006
@@dissect123 that’s not woke. That was making fun of the pretentiousness of certain people.
@@PeopleRTheProblem it is woke af, rewatch it.
A loud minority trying to impact and discriminate against the way the majority of society live while celebrating their own smugness.
Also kids of woke clowns being drug addicted, very accurate.
Her wife being in this shows exactly how serious they took the project.
well communist lesbian space witch village wasn't entirely what I expected of Star Wars
It's a murder mystery. Star Wars has been killed and it's a mystery how the people who partcipated in the muder still have a job.
EXCELLENT! 😂
Media outlets shilling for Disney Star Wars is also a problem.
Elementry!! my dear punchable
@@Alex8609BrindyJames I can already hear it rippling though time!!
The witches were a power of many, yet they died from a power of one who set rocks on fire.
Makes sense to Bob Iger. But the Disney Accounting Dept is struggling.
Well, styrofoam stone is pretty flammable 😂
Yeah you can make anything sound bad if ur going to use words of logic & reason. 😂
If the fact that everything about that scene was weird, wrong, and/or physically impossible didn't tip you off, I'm just not sure how to help you.
I'm getting so sick of not only Disney ruining Star Wars more and more, but just bought out megacorporations in general ruining everything we love.
Even with the audio issues this video still made 10 times more sense than the acolyte's story telling.
Disney hiring harvey weinsteins personal assistant is repulsive. I would also expect a better show when the showrunner is a sith acolyte in real life. Write what ya know leslie
It is interesting how both Weinstein and Headland have the same "preferences." It's not a far off idea that she also, well.┐( ˘_˘)┌
She is writing what she knows. She has 4 years of experience with "the force."
I mean, they're the same dudes that pander to the LGBTQ here, and remove them from their movies overseas, lectures about racism here, and removes black actors from movies in China, and makes movies near concentration camps... Frankly, it's pretty on brand.
im so beyond caring about anything Disney related. Is anyone expecting any quality at this point?
I have hope for Andor season 2, but that’s the definition of an anomaly. Otherwise no.
I think at this point the viewership of these Star Wars shows is 90% TH-camrs watching so they can pump out some more content.
It's like asking if one expects quality coming out of Japan's entertainment industry. No, I fully expect stuff made for sex pests made by sex pests.
deadpool & wolverine gonna be great, don't lie to yourself
@@ProfessorPesca for sure
The chanting reminds me of rings of power cringe, "the sea is always right"
Kindly reminder: this gringefest has a budget of 180 $ Million ......allegedly.
For 8 episodes, that run from 30-45 minutes.
To put this into perspective: Dune-Part 1 cost only 145 $ Million to be made.
John Wick- Part 4: 98 $ Million budget
Top Gun Maverick: 160 $ Million budget
And these are all big blockbuster movies with tons of elaborate action scenes, stunts, VFX, shot on location etc. etc.
Hell, Godzilla Minus-One cost less than 15 $ Million to be made!!
$180 million in 2024 money equals about $100 million in 2021 money.
It only costs $4,000 to go bang sticks and scream in the woods.
They made money off the cast, filmed it and pocketed the rest.
"budget" of 180 million dollars on company balance sheet = less profit at the end of the year = less taxes that need to be paid
At this point it's a question what don't we hate about it, The bad acting, the terrible cringey dialogue, the nonsensical plot, the again heavy handed politics of making the Jedi, who are effectively space police, the bad guys, the Lesbian Space Witches using the Force to Immaculately Conceive....I can't believe that's a thing and not just a stupid madlib.
Everything, Everything about it sucks.
You remember Anakin being conceived without a father? because it was the will of the force, the be all, end all to all evil and by being denied again and again countless times after proving himself. His arrogance and ego eventually turned him into one of the Dark Sides most formidable foes. The no father plot was interesting and the payoff showed everything tied to that and around that. This is now Thread force? lesbians making TWO Anakin's. two is more and that means Anakin wasn't shit haha. aren't we better guys? TWO! I've always been a fan of the prequels, i thought the world building was amazing and i learned so much from it. People hated it, most did and i think those people now are just wishing the quality was that of the prequels. You never realize what you have until its been lesbianized
I’m curious how the witches reproduce, taking into account that most of them are literally different spices, so how does that work? Are all of them “force kids”?
@@jacob96014prequels expanded the universe immensely, without them most Star Wars content wouldn’t exist, people forget that, the films weren’t all that great, but they had moments of brilliance too.
@@jacob96014 U see where the bar was and where it is now.😅 Good f ing job disney...🤡
"At this point it's a question what don't we hate about it"
The Squid Game guy?
Reminding someone that their whole family died in a fire is such a dumb and insensitive thing to say, and that isn't even necessary for audience's context because they tell her backstory in Ep3 anyway.
And not only a normal fire, a fire that apparently can fucking burn stone.
@LordCraneo2 it was a lesbionic fire. It burns through anything.
Most of this show is people getting talked at aka characters talking to the audience.
@@LordCraneo2see, fire in star wars, is female, it can burn in space, burns stone and you are just being sexist. Check mate nerd.
@@timbothejedi4146it soo in your face too, like they didn’t even try.
You remember when Maul nearly killed Qui Gon on Tatooine?
Remember stakes, remember everything you invested in this series?
Headland wasn’t Harvey’s assistant for a year, she was with him for six years.
yet, Harvey never touched her.
@@davidjacobs8558 Why would he, have you seen her?
Redditors spreading misinformation as facts again
@@alexman378 that's the point you genius
Six days is more than a decent person would last.
the power of one, the power of two! the power of jonnyyyyy!
"I give you, you."
"You give me, me"
So one's doing all the giving?
Nice catch. Just another example of bad writing.
The acting at 7:48 is 10/10 Oscar material. I was deeply moved…to laughter and disbelief that this school play level writing and performance made the final cut. “tHaTs HeR!”
All acting seems to be terrible in this show. The only one that seems to be putting an effort is the squid game guy that apparently learned to speak English to act in this show.
@@cristela4034 I legit feel bad for him.
22:00 - "My character, she's a par-ful leedah!"
She runs a cult of a dozen women on a retreat to banish their anger thru interpretive dance and song. We have _very_ different definitions of "powerful" it seems.
Lesbian Interpretive Dinner Theater
😂😂😂😂
😒 no seriously that ‘song’ wasn’t funny. It haunts me.
It’s very clear the creators of this show had to self insert into the story for their own petty ego and don’t give two shits about the canon or continuity of story
It adds to the lore of Disney Star Wars in rather interesting ways.
@@fundhund62just don’t fucking reply at this point it added nothing but more garbage onto an already rotting pile of shit.
Rocks can catch fire and kill powerful space witches in a bonfire that doesnt get near them. Wow
The thing is, the "Attack me with all your strength" isn't a new line, and in the right context with the right delivery, it can work. Shaw Brothers movies used it all the time (or variants like it), but you have to be a stonecold badass like Kiryu Kazuma in a final boss fight to pull it off, not this milktoast like wiff of a girl.
9:54 Well, not with out reason the main character is named: Occupational Safety and Health Administration OSHA. Of course she, i'm sorry, they/them know how to properly use a seat belt and brace for impact.
22:00 I love the way the actress has spent so much effort researching and developing her character that she improvises the description with 'it's very like', 'kind of cool', 'sort of'.
7:00 Technically, there could be a fire in space if there's an external oxygen source, like what might have been from that tank? Maybe? But it doesn't look like that. Without gravity, fire burns outward in all directions at once. It's really beautiful, actually.
"...Fire burns outwards in all directions, at once..."
There's something poetic about that.
I agree, but a fire extinguisher wouldn't work.
There have been tons of explosions in Star Wars, but all of sudden it is an issue?? Same concept with this fire, ignition of oxygen into space.
@@glennbrown2704 A ship / station filled with an oxygen atmosphere exploding in a fireball makes more (not much, just more) sense then some electronics catching fire. It's not the same concept at all.
@@glennbrown2704 Well you see, fire in space is a problem in this case because....uh....reasons.
Not everyone hates the Acolyte- just the people who have seen it.
Boom boom 😂
More like "Just the people who don't understand it." Which apparently is damn-near everyone.
@@jaiclary8423 I'm probably replying to a bot but I'll bite....Yeah that must be it, we just don't "get it". Even if that was the case, the cheap sets and wardrobes, wooden acting, terrible pacing and storytelling, cringe worthy lines like "We have an unidentified force user" 🤣 is reason enough not to like it. I've watched much better with no budget amateur fan films. If they claim that Acolyte's budget was $180 million, there needs to be an investigation of where that money went, because it wasn't spent on the show.
@@jayc3715 Not a bot, and let's be very clear what you've done here - you've retreated into ultimate subjectivity. "Cheap sets and wardrobe" = are they? by what metric? "wooden acting" = by what metric? hard to argue with. "terrible pacing and storytelling" - by what metric? These are your claims, so tell me, how are they falsifiable? Claims are false by default, and while I'm charitable in dispute, I'm not *that* charitable. Also FFS there are plenty of bad lines in the show, "unidentified force user" isn't one of them. Strange though how all of these braindead negative posts seem to know the show has a 180m budget. Almost like I'm talking to a bot.
Well lop my cock off and fuck the hole we got a live groid worshiping troonerald @@jaiclary8423
Headland stated once that she used to write Star Wars fan fiction when she was a teenager. Clearly she just copy + paste it and pretended to have a writers room (with people who never saw or read anything SW)...
"Attack me! With all your strength!" makes much more sense now 🤦♂
And that goddamned line is used twice! With the same pose and everything.
i don't even watch the Acolyte i just wait for the youtubers to scream and confirm my theory...it was bad.
Thats the ticket. If a certain group of youtubers ar eyelping like a husky, clapping like a seal, and gaping like a hungry hungry hippo during their reaction videos, the thing must be abhorrent.
Uh-oh! That's precisely what the mainstream media is accusing the fanbase of doing 😂
@@wolfmauler They're really fishing for those hate-watch numbers. Conveniently forgetting their own "it's not for you" statements.
@@TG-ge1oh I don't understand why ppl are so sure that behavior is bad faith. And far as I can tell, TH-camrs of that sort are the only silver lining to the endless swaths of sludge that Disney, and the like, have been churning out for bout the last 10 years now.
@@crustyMilk I see your point.
In my defense, I mean just look at them. The only time an adult makes those faces and utters such squeals is when playing with their newborn 😅
Johnny Depp got fired from Pirates of Carribbean by Disney, due to his Amber Turd case in England.
And the Same Disney, has zero problem with hiring this female who worked closely for the evil island old man.
She has to have dirt on either people at Lucasfilm or Disney, no other explanation for this kind of trash to be greenlit.
that's Epstein, not Weinstein.
he still sucks tho
@@MatrixSJDagreed. It reeks of corruption. She knows where the bodies are buried for sure.
The Haribo-witch with the "Lakritzschnecke" (black licorice wheel?) on her forhead allways amuses me.
I would have never imagined Disney could make such terrible descisions one after another. Awesome company Bob.
Everytime I feel stupid; I compare my decisions to Disney, and I feel a LOT better. 😂
Acolyte, to me, is simply derivative of ideas and story elements done better in other Star Wars moveis/series. Occupational Safety and Health Administration trying to prove her innocence is akin to Ahoska's Arc during season 4/5 in Clone Wars (can't remember exactly which one). Her also having a long lost twin and them being connected to the Force, like Luke and Leia. And them both being created using the Force....like Anakin. And showing that the Jedi are not as perfectly good as one may think...like the prequals, I could go on. My point is that, all the latter versions of the examples I gave that are present in the Acolyte, are done with actual grace and competency. The Acolyte comes off as a show simply praising the idea or concept, without taking into account the execution
Don't worry, I noticed the transition from the MIB Neuralizer back to you. And I appreciated it. Well done.
They made not only anakin the chosen third, but also made plagueis look like a moron
Chosen one retcon to Anakin was an awful decision from the start
@@russianoverkill3715 It was always Anakin though. Anakin technically brought balance to the force when he left things at two sith and two jedi, and from the jedis view of balance he did by "killing" the emperor in Return of the Jedi. Which got ruined when they brought him back in Rise of Skywalker, which was dumb.
Agreed. The hole point of Anakin going to the darkside was to find a way to use the force to save Padme. He was told Plagueis found a way to use the force to make life and stop death, but some how this coven has a women who just did it with no problem and it made twins? Like what? Such bad writing.
@@willbennett7697 no, Anakin just wanted more power, he even admitted to supporting dictatorships when hopelessly flirting Padme, whom he then choked while jumping to far fetched conclusions, that she brought Obi-Wan to end him.
@@russianoverkill3715 While sure that was his secondary goal the first was to stop death. To have the control over it because he couldnt save his mother and had the fear of losing Padme too from his nightmares showing she die in child birth. Not knowing it was caused by his fall to the darkside and 'breaking her heart."
I mean, it kind of starts from the beginning, "OMG, Cate MOSS as a Jedi Master?! HELL yes!"..... oh wait, no, and she's dead to total stupid. Alien species just sound like... random folks with no discernable accent unless you're a non-American. "Ooh, hey, it's the guy from Squid Game? Cool! Are we gonna get more of a Kurasawa thing, like referencing back to 7 Samurai?" Oh, wait no, just a murder mystery with no mystery.
"Fight me!"
"No."
"Well, I'll just keep killing innocent people until you show me how evil you are... How DARE you pull a weapon on me after I tried to murder you and everyone else here multiple times to make you fight me to the death!"
Master Indara was sitting in a cantina, cold and aloof, surrounded by thugs, looking like a mob boss while a child begged for coin outside, and didn't even lift a hand to help until she needed to.
There was a lot more going on in this scene than is immediately obvious.
@@jaiclary8423 You just described 98% of the cantinas in Star Wars. And the most Obi-Wan did in a cantina was cut a dudes arm off.
And her opponent tried to kill a bartender for some stupid "fight me" crap, and attacked the entire bar for the same reason.
There were A LOT of stupid things going on in that bar.
I've been waiting for this. I can't believe we have makeup this bad 10 years post gamora.
Bad make-up. Bad wigs. Bad acting. My eyes are burning!
The Star Wars makeup was better at my friend's 5th birthday party back in 2004.
Disney: “For my next trick, I’ll shall put $300m into Mandalorian and Grogu as well as $350m into the Rey movie to a total net loss of $1 BILLLLLLLION”
Take that bigots
It’s DEIsney now.
At this rate it'll DIE...sney.
After all of them fail, Bob Iger with twitching faces gathers all of his white employees and starts shouting at them for being such a disappointment. You need to work harder, damn it. Why am I even paying you???
**Stares at Disney in disbelieve** Where...How...Where did 1 billion go???
They killed the X-Wing and Armada tabletop games. I'm officially done with Star Wars in its entirety.
Took ya long enough mate, welcome
Just had to play that clip of the circus clown screeching "I'm a wiiiiiitch!" didn't ya?
There's no way Headland didn't know or see shit. She probably did, and has dirt on people, and that's why she got the directing role haha.
Well she was the assistant of Weinstein dude must have had friends joining him in his “activities”…
I bet she watched everything from a cracked open closet door elbows deep in herself, fantasizing she was the one with the Schwartz 😂😂😂
ong she probably blackmailing someone at disney
Dude, I thought I was alone in my intense hatred of musical theater 🤝
To add to your father in the casket in sequins analogy...and the funeral director is not only shocked that you're upset but accuses you of being a homophobe....
Don't know why your vomiting out the word 'musical theatre' like that made me burst out laughing but it did. The delivery was so great.
Why jedi use the Force to open non locked doors?
Glad you're covering this!
Based :) You know what's amazing though - remember after TLJ how TH-cam just blew up with a wealth of great content, it feels like that again, I can feel it like electricity in the air.
It's honestly gotten so bad I don't even enjoy watching people tear it apart. They aren't even trying with these shows.
7:20 if some comes and tell me my own life story.. I'd ask them "why the hell are you telling me things I already know about myself??"
Princess Leia literally took the gun and helped save herself. We LOVED that. This garbage is manipulation. Done very poorly.
Anyone else get the notion that Leslye's production credits read more like a series of oddly specific incidents one might have experienced or instigated while working directly for Weinstein? That's quite a coincidence!
Its amazing , everytime we think it cant get any dumber it gets worse. Is there a contest going on?
That witch edit almost made me choke on my food.
She deep knowledge.... of where the bodies are buried, so to speak.
She wasn't a dumb assistant for 4 years, she probably kept a black book which she is now using to her advantage. How else can you describe giving this nobody the reins of an entire franchise...
People who don't appreciate the magnificence of musical theatre deserve the power of manyyyyyyyy
I'm about 15 minutes in and the movement of the MOOTASH when it's trying to say MmmM Musicals is impeccable! It's good to be back Jonathan...
Every character just gives cringe exposition to each other telling each other things they already know very amateurish writing
Exactly. Spot on.
"as above,so below" not even subtle
I just predicted how the ending is going to be. It begins with both sisters finally seeing their differences (who wouldn’t seen that coming?) join forces and defeat the smiley Sith Lord, or sort..? They grabbed their lightsaber and butter knife, but before they hit the final blow, they said the line!
“The power of one! The power of two! The power of many!”
*I would legit bet on anything that would be the ending!*
Well, first of all, adult Osha and Mae are the same person. But yes, they'll resolve their differences to battle the Sith Lord Master Sol, who will probably be betrayed and killed by his apprentice Qimir. Congratulations, you've been spoiled.
@@jaiclary8423
Well, it’s not much of a spoiler if it’s that predictable. Lol
@@juantony Thanks! I welcome any ally against the horde of white men who think the show has zero complexity, even if you think it's "not much of a spoiler."
I was going to ask why Disney doesn't make a Mon Mothma show if they are so obsessed with 'strong female characters', but then I realized that she's the exact opposite of what Disney wants from their 'strong women'
She has a role in Andor, the only decent SW show
@@andynowicki4532shame that she was forced to play second fiddle to a FAR less interesting character...
this is cultural appropriation, they are making star wars without knowing what star wars is
No it’s not
@@teamtundra2619Wasn't Star Wars created, filmed, written, watched, read and played by white men? By the definition of the woke, only straight white men should be allowed to work with Star Wars...
They have no right to appropriate nerd culture 😠
@@emma_luce_0623 what
Only Headland would need 3 chapters to find an a-hole, and all she needed was a mirror.
it's so astounding how bad it is that it can't have been an accident, and had to have been made terrible on purpose. but why?
There is the scene in the Wrong Trousers where the Feathers McGraw is revealed to be the lodger after he removes the rubber glove from his head.
Wallace: "YOU!!"
It’s not even a good Leia tattoo. Like, would even guess that was Leia without her telling you?
How can i hate Disney's trash tv and movies? If they didn't exist, I'd have never found my way here.
This nerd isn't gay. I resent them for saying "nerds are gay". If they meant "gay" in the 90s playground sort of way, that would be fine... but we know they don't.
*"Always gay, they are. No straight. No lass. A top and a bottom."*
- Master Yoda, speaking about the SHIT.
The part of Anakin destroying the Deathstar really made me lol
"Yeah so she was Harvey's personal assistant, no big deal!"
Imagine if she had been an assistant of the Donald Drumpf, dood.
If we lived in a just universe, the creators of this show would be making nothing more than a few cents per watch of their terrible content and Jonny Law would get $180 million for that awesome napalm joke. Alas, we do not live in a just universe.
It really is an achievment to make something so s hitty its beyond s hitty
Compare the experience and credits of people pre-2019 and post-2020 at big studios. It's not a slope, it's a cliff.
Man, your humor is top notch, great video as always!
Okay... not sure how I feel about the autism joker there because I am actually autistic, high functioning but I do still live with autism.
You don't have to like Taylor Swift, I don't really care for her one way or another, but it's pretty low brow to equate personal taste in music to a mental condition someone has no choice to live with. Even if I were a fan of Taylor that still wouldn't justify the joke because Autism isn't synonymous with the word stupid, so don't treat it that way, please.
I can't always pick up on emotions or grasp certain concepts the moment they're conveyed to me, but that isn't because I'm an idiot. My brain just doesn't always register something. That's probably why things like riddles can stump me. It's not a lack of intelligence, it's how my mind interprets information. When information isn't literally stated to mean exactly the words used to describe it, it's confusing. Ex: what has 16 wheels and flies?
My mind would and did get stumped trying to figure out what kind of aircraft literally has 16 wheels.
Turns out the answer was a dump truck because flies was a noun, not a verb. It still makes sense but my mind didn't immediately grasp the other concept. To be fair, that's the point of a riddle. However, my point about autism is that emotions and such can be just as confusing as a riddle, more so than the average person. It's a basic example, but it's the best way I can think to represent how a capable mind can reach a different conclusion from what's intended. And really, that's just one way autism can affect those with it. However, that does NOT imply a lack of emotional or intellectual maturity. It's simply a difficulty.
Using autism as a synonym for stupidity or idiocy is basically like harassing someone for being left handed because they were born without a right arm. Autism is so much more complex than, "they just don't get it or don't understand," because autism is NOT a product of ignorance nor even naivety. It is a condition that people like me have to live with and while we can improve how we handle situations, it doesn't change how our minds work. We can be well read and knowledgeable, intelligent even, but no amount of learning will change our unique perception.
Think of it like Elden Ring, there's no difficulty slider. You're stuck with the game as is, but you can change how you approach challenges within the game. Well, autism doesn't change within a person, but the person can develop strategies to deal with it in their life, but you can't perfect run, no hit life.
Please, don't use autism a replacement for stupidity. It's insensitive and insulting.
You can say people have trash tastes but you can't blame a mental condition for it.
well written
I felt this was coming.
I had a bad feeling about this
"I was only Epstein's pilot for a year. You work at Boeing for a decade and nobody says anything. But fly the Lolita Express for a year and it's a big deal?"
I think Harvey got exonarated.
So who brought up the marketing study that found that when playing Batman the boys want to be Batman in Batmans world but the girls wanted Batman to play house in the girls world? Was it Chris Gore
9:23 She freed the criminal because the show wants you to believe so badly that she is a good person despite her “unique circumstances.” They want you to say, “Look at this poor girl! She did something good and immediately got taken advantage of! This should make you overlook the fact that she killed a Jedi and is a POS!”
I mean. this show’s writing is beyond embarrassing
4:32 To skip the personal insults and get to the actual criticism that has at least SOME validity every once in a while. You're welcome.
This is the review I was waiting for 😂😂😂
Hahahahaha! I wonder how many people got that Nile Rodgers dig. That was hilarious!!!! It took me a second to even register what you said. bravo.
"This being Hollywood..."
Sort of! It was mostly filmed at Winnersh Studios, just outside Reading, in England. I imagine they're lying low, hoping no one noticed...
Hollywood became Follyhood.
"Wrong spect ratio...!!!" - Okay, that cracked me up.
Your review is better than watching a show that cost 180 million. Bravo, Bravo.
You're not alone channels like midnight's edge WDW pro that park place.
Echo Base network.
And many others. Have been calling this out for years.
A Skies of Arcadia poster? A fellow man of culture, I see.
"BRICK - FACE"🤬
"ROBOT - HEAD"!🤖
Nice 😅
6:56 And that’s why Star Wars is fantasy and not sci-fi.
I was waiting for your video bro 🤘haha
There is overlapping audio in a couple parts.
This was so spot on that it HURTS :)
"you lost your mothers, and sister." "I didn't know she had a twin." Good god
Even the people who can’t stop watching it, and therefore pay Disney to keep making these.
Excellent video Jonny, thank you. But at 5:25 you got the "Hollowood joke" wrong. It's supposed to start with: "A lesbian walks into a bar". 😁
If you understand what they are doing with the Chosen One/Chosen Twins thing it shows that the Force is Male. They shot themselves in the foot and saved Star Wars.
I think the most egregious use of musical theater in a tv series outside of Hamilton was that one episode of Grey’s Anatomy.
Oh, and Osha definitely looks like Nile Rogers, I can’t unsee it.
You are a comedy genius, and a great reviewer. Thanks for splitting my sides reviewing this dogshit.
There is a big flaw in the 'Yeah, but And/Or was good" argument.... It wasn't.
You forgot the Strange New Worlds Musical episode. You're bang on - why, oh why, is the supposed 'Sci-fi' of today full of bloody song & dance numbers? I can't bare it either.
Of course Leslye Headland gravitated to star wars she used to feed innocent girls to the wanko- I mean rancor for years.
The PC tower on the chair makes me nervous