No worries - it is a cheap spirit level. It saves fiddling with the in-camera menu and keeps my rear screen clearer. You can get one for not a lot of money online.
Top review from a working professional who has field tested the camera thanks. I believe the battery from the D5 can be used in the D850 and will definitely give you more juice. Only problem is you may have to sell a kidney to afford the charger which is exorbitantly priced. On a final note why is Nikon gear so damn expensive in the UK compared to elsewhere? The current price of the D850 from the Nikon UK store is £ 2,914. I was able to purchase one on sale (local not grey import) for the equivalent of £ 2,040.
I love the ISO button placement. I haven't noticed a huge battery drain; lower by maybe 10% or so IMO. I also think the OOC jpegs are some of the best I've seen, and the raw files have a LOT of editing room. For the Ugly: the Live View AF is still abysmal compared to Canon but for my clients it's all about the photography image.
I do wedding/event photography as well as landscape photography. I currently use a D750 with an old D300 as backup. I have been seriously considering buying a D850 since the D300's sensor isn't nearly as good in low light. Not much "ugly" in your review here. I think buying an 850 will be a good move. Thanks so much for your well thought out and thorough review. I always appreciate how generous photographers are with sharing their knowledge and experience.
Iso button is a great move. You can control exposure much better and faster. For landscape is not big deal but if you shoot wedding in manual.mode all day it is just brilliant. D850 is epic machine.
Good one Tom. Some observations:Dust - strange one - i've had a D850 for nearly 6 mths and luckily only 1 spot of dust so far; unlike my old D750 that gathered heaps. Battery life: yes eats it quicker. But I keep mine in 'flight mode' and sacrifice connectivity features. Auto-power-off: Camera switches off its 'meter' after a customisable number of seconds. Once that's off, assuming it's in flight mode, it should use no more power than if it was physically switched off; unless the shutter (or live view) is accidentally triggered in the bag.
Thanks Derek for watching and your comments. Its been great to get feedback from other users on their experiences of using the camera too - thanks for sharing!
I am a photographer and I bought it to take night photographs and I regret it because it doesn't work like the others I have, the shots don't turn out very well and it has problems when you enlarge the photos they look blurry even if you use a tripod
For a sensor cleaner, try the Gel Sensor Stick (photographylife.com/product/sensor-gel-stick). This is the first product that I have felt comfortable using. It works great, and I never have to have it done by anyone else again. Stick one in you bag, and its always there when you need it.
Thanks for taking the time to do this review! I was just checking the rest of your channel and you've got some really fantastic content, and of course, some stunning photos!
Nice review and very well done. None of the Nikon DSLRs have had automatic shutdown. I don't have a D810 but D70, D7000, D600, D750, D500, now D850 never had shutdown. Same with Nikon SB flashes. Battery drain while on is minimal unless you leave snapbridge on. :-(. Finally there is something to remember to turn off. Your landscape photos are excellent.
Great Review. If you are not changing lenses out in the field, I'm surprised as to how you are getting dust in your sensor. I have a D500, D750 and a D810 and have never had dust get into my sensor when I go out Birding or the other shooting sessions, mainly weddings and portraits unless I take my lenses off in the field or leave a lens off of the camera inside of my home or on site and not put the body cap back on. I can see how this can be done if you are out on a Safari because of the amount of dirt around, but stranger things have happened. Regarding the ISO button, this was first changed in the D500 and D5 and Nikon did this so that you don't have to take your eye away while changing the ISO. Nikon got very great reviews for this and have been doing this with all of their newer/expensive cameras. I reprogramed my D750 and D810 to do the same thing. You will get use to it and learn to love it. I can see why it could be a problem for you because the video record button is slightly to the left and could be pressed, which isn't a problem on the D750 or D810 because once you programed the video button to ISO on the D810 the ISO button on the left becomes the video record button and on the D750 the ISO button on the left side of the body near the left side of the screen becomes the video record button. As far as the SD cards, you are old school and you are right the compact flash card is bigger and easier to manage, especially outside. The XQD slot and Card isn't just for the 4K video, which it is excellent for, but if your are shooting fast action or birds (which you won't be for Landscaping) the XQD provides an almost limitless buffer with super, super, super duper recovery. On the D500 and D5, you can shoot 99 shots non-stop and at the 100 shot it will pause for a moment and you can shoot another 99 shots. There are rumors and that XQD might be discontinued buy the new Compact Flash called CFast if I'm not mistaken is backwards compatible with XQD and should only require a firmware flash to work. For me and at this time, there is no need to upgrade as between the D500 and D810, I'm pretty close to a D850 (I don't need to edit 45.7 megapixel files in Light Room, 36 megapixel files are bad enough, but the incredible deal I got on a used D810 was too good to pass on, it was less than half retail) and I have a D750 as a full Frame back up. Each of my cameras bring something different to the table and I'm quite happy with them. If I got a D850 Free or as a gift or half off, yes I would jump at that opportunity, but for now, I'm quite set for the photography that I do. I'm looking forward to a lot more reviews from you on what you uncover with that new D850 camera.
Wow - thanks Sid, that's some seriously comprehensive feedback! Will be doing a follow-up update video over the summer on how I am getting on with it, by which time it will have had a good trial around the globe in different conditions - stay tuned!
Good review. Of course, any review is, to a degree,. subjective. For instance, as a landscape photographer I like the elimination of the pop-up flash in exchange for better weather sealing. Also, as a user of a D500, where the ISO button is in the same place as the D850, it is much more convenient to have the same muscle memory for both cameras. And, although I don't have it, the D5 has the same ISO button placement. I think it's fine to make a minor change, so long as you do it consistently. Thought the rest of the review was spot on. Thanks.
Hi Tom, I have had my D850 for six months (4000 clicks) now and have no dust on the sensor. I have never cleaned it either. Maybe your cleaning process is to blame? Any way great instructive video and I agree with everything you said.
MrHook, he mentions it is when he stops down. I have had no problems too. It sounds like the dust is in the lens, and the lower the aperture number more dust from the elements of the lens show. Cheers Matt
Thanks for your thoughts. The new button layout is adapted from the D500 and a huge improvement, just get used to it 😉. Being able to tweak ISO during shoot is fantastic. When will you use the Mode button? It’s on M permanently, isn’t it? I fully agree with your complaint on the flip screen. Looks like no one at Nikon shoots in portrait mode. I also am aware of the dust thing. The D500 I use roughly since 2016 and no sensor cleaning have been necessary yet. Not so on D850. The official temperature range is 0 to 40 °C, what are your experiences sub zero (except the need to warm up battery on body). Fuji has -10 to 40 °C range. Lack of pop up flash is really ugly. If no studio strobes are available, I hardly miss it specially in studio alike situations as tiny and lightweight control flash, to fire also non “Nikon Advanced Lightning System” flashes/speedlights (I meter manually anyway by Sekonic 308 and never use that TTL thing)
Great honest video Tom. I moved away from Nikon to the Fuji XT-2 because I'm an old git with a sore back and the wait of my D800e and the usual lenses for my landscapes meant I was struggling. Now have lighter kit and getting out more. BUT do I miss the dslr?? of course I do!! Its good to see you are on youtube. I'll look forward to keeping up to date with your vlogs as I still have an interest in Nikon. Jim
Cf cards are sufficient for landscape. Should give you an option.. These new xqd cards only useful for video work. Not like your going to fill the buffer doing landscape or really any photography really. Gimmick
I know, very annoying as I had just bought 6 new CF cards that are now obsolete. The only advantage using the XQD card is the transfer rate is much faster.
Thanks Tom - I work in so many mixed and varied locations I cannot be tied and dependent on a wi-fi connection to back up. Some of the countries I shoot in, just getting a mobile signal for text is nightmare, let alone chunky files! I get your thinking though and thanks for feedback.
@@LandscapePhotographyiQ I store all my RAW files on a small 4 Terebyte external HD, and try not to put many at all on my MacBook Pro. I do find the MacBook on the small side for editing (especially as I get older) but my budget gives me the option of going with a better camera, or have an iMac....so the D850 wins out! :)
Reviews are consistently good on this camera, despite the same common complaints. Many, experienced vloggers are calling it the best camera ever. I may start investing in glass now, and add the body later. In the mean time, more thoroughly learn my D5600.
G'day Tom, great work on your channel and congrats. Regarding your sensor being clean, you say it is worse when you stop down, that indicates to me that it is your lenses which are dusty not your camera. I have had two D850's for 9 months now, and no sensor dust issues at all. Regarding battery, it certainly lasts longer than the D810 in my experience so I agree with others, that it might be the wireless chewing the battery. I love the new ISO position, for me it means it is easier to change on the fly without having to take your eye away from the viewfinder. Best of luck and congrats PS I also have a D850 review on my channel. - Cheers Matt
The iso button should be there where it is now. We use iso looking through the viewfinder, so easy access is more important than the mode button which is used rarely. I have the D5, D500 and the D850 and just love where the iso button is.
That auto on/off doesnt matter much since it draw same amount battery in both, which is almost zero. It just make so you cant use the shutter if its off. And that sd card point. Use a usb cable to transfer images?, and maby use the XQD slot if you want a bigger card :D
The thing about the megapixel increases is that they will be bundled with more and better features like better quality monitors that tilt and swivel in every direction. That’s how we’re compelled to upgrade or at least desire to upgrade. I love my D810 but the features on this camera make me want it. Essentially, you’re saying you won’t buy any further models than this. The megapixel increase will be inevitably tied to future models with more and better features. I bet when a model comes out they at least have one to two further iterations already planned these days. The biggest draw is the constant increase in megapixels. I remember reading a few years ago that the ceiling was just about reached for a given sensor size. How they can continuously increase the amount is baffling.
Hi Pierre, thanks for watching and your feedback. Agree with what you are saying. As I mention in the video; I personally don't upgrade for the sake of just having the latest equipment, there have to be compelling reasons to spend the money. With the D850 I felt the reasons were compelling. As to the future, lets see what they come up with next! In the meantime, hope you continue to enjoy the D810, its a cracking camera.
Hello Sir @Landscape Photography iQ , I am currently having Nikon D300 with Battery Pack. Is D850 a good upgrade and good decision? Please advise me. Regards, Omar
I have a D300. Yes, it is a quantum leap in quality. 12 MP to 45. The other features of the 850 will blow away the 300. I like the 300 because of the DX crop factor but it is staying home this time around. There is also a big learning curve with the 850. AND you will need quality lenses. I don't think LP IQ touched on this aspect of the camera.
I received my 850 yesterday (used) from a reputable online dealer, there are 2 in NYC and 1 in Atlanta. The image quality is amazing. Today I shot a bee on a flower with a 24-120 lens. The detail was so amazing you can see the droplets of pollen on the wings. As for the 45 MP size. The are a must if you are going to crop. The dedicated "on focus" button is a big plus. I had so many frustrating times focusing with the shutter button only to have it refocus somewhere else when I recomposed the shot. The touch screen is great and you can focus by touching the screen in the area of interest. The SD card I used today was a 32. Using JPG and RAW files I could shoot 222 images. THIS IS WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE: There is only one slot for an SD card. The other slot is for the $$$ Sony XQD card. BOO!!
One other plus: The shutter can be placed on "silent mode." This is great if you are trying to shoot birds and small mammals as they get spooked with any noise. I don't shoot video so I have no comments on the quality though some reviewers have panned the video mode.
ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT POINT: This camera will magnify any poor technique as well as any failings of so-called "consumer lenses." You will need top quality lenses to get the most out of this camera.
Great, honest little video. Viewers be warned. I ordered a brand new D850 from Abe's of Main. Took advantage of their "Halloween Special". They then told me that price was for the "Chinese version" only. So I took the other price. Instead of shipping me the D850 body in a brand new un opened box, the shipped a opened D850 Kit, in which they removed the kit lens. The whole transactions was deceitful and misleading. Viewers here would be better served to stick with a local dealer on one of a much higher reputation. Just read RIP OFF Reports. I'm not the first victim. So now I continue to wait for my D850 from a reputable dealer.
A few points: • Not having vertical swivel on the screen is somewhat a downside, however, even if you crop a 45MP image to 2:3 (vertical), you would have 20 megapixels left. So in many cases and with this camera, you would actually not even need to turn it 90°… • The D850 uses a sensor based on a different technology, so yes, your impression is correct, for this sensor is superior to anything else currently on the market. • Wait, what?, you'd like a popup flash? Seriously? If you need a light fill-flash, I recommend an old SB-400, but the use of popup flashes is considered bad practice for a reason, the same reason all professional Nikon cameras don't have those. Whatever, get a SB-400 if you really miss it. • Concerning battery life, I finally persuaded myself into buying a battery grip. And never looked back. But different people have different habits. All in all, nice review. Keep up the good work!
Seems we all have different experiences. My D850 goes to sleep and I have great battery life. I have had some dust on the sensor but a simple 'air rocket' took care of it plus doing a wet cleaning is pretty simple once you get the hang of it to save the cost of someone else cleaning. I went from a D750 and D800E and I'm glad I did......and I use the same SD cards as I did with the D750. I don't shoot a lot of wildlife or sports, so the transfer rate of the UHS-1 card is fine. Other pluses....focus peaking, focus shifting....all that I've learned and am enjoying.
Hi Bill, I discovered the reason for the excess dust. I used a rubber dust blower that was a few years old and found that the inside of it will deteriorate in time, so it will end up blowing more dust particles on the sensor. I've been using the D850 for several years now and I feel it's the best DSLR that Nikon has produced.
@@LandscapePhotographyiQ Hi Tom: That was a good catch. I often squeeze the blower multiple times before actually using but if it’s deteriorating it won’t make much difference so I think I’ll get a new one. About the button placement issue I see you’ve adjusted. I went from Canon to Nikon a few years ago…now that was an adjustment both buttons and menu. I really enjoy the D850’s resolution and low light performance. Can’t wait to get out and do some landscape photography. I’m retired now so I should have the patience…
Have you tried putting the camera in airplane mode? That blue tooth stuff really sucks up the batteries. Nikon has had some issues with bent pins on compact flash cards. I never had a bent pin but a Nikon rep told me 10 years ago they were having problems with CF cards.
Yes Dylan, after using this now for a few years I reckon it's the best DSLR that Nikon have produced. I have no need to change to mirror less as the D850 does a great job.
Good user review. I think ISO button change makes a lot of sense. The D810 has no Auto off, however you can in the menu adjust the Auto off time of the metering system. Maybe you could try that.
Landscape Photography iQ I thought later it might be the backlighting of the sensor that drains the battery a bit more than the D810. I'm not sure how long that backlight stays on before and after you shoot. But possibly my suggestion might still help.
I have the Nikon D-810 I love the camera and for the few issues you mentioned such as flash, CF cards, sensor dust, and such I will keep shooting with the D-810. All the other things mentioned about the good of the camera it is workable also by using the D-810 throughly. Good review on all the good the bad and the ugly mentioned here. Thank you.
tom, the american nikon, or english nikon ?? I always think ? did the americans call japanese nipon or nipon, so why do they say nikon, instead of nikon. graham in england.
You guys pronounce it the right way (nee-kon) and is the way Japanese prefer, but what surprises me is that here in the U.S. they promote the complex one themselves. Exactly the same happens with Wacom.
Good review. Some things I found to be a great improvements over the D800/810 is the autofocus speed and accuracy as well as the bright viewfinder. Definitely worth the spend if these are important to your photographic process.
I love my d850. Over 6,000 shutter releases so far. Had dust issue once but is was actually dust/oil on the lens I was using. Haven’t had to clean sensor yet. My battery life is great in airplane mode. Thanks for the vid 👍🏻
I upgraded from a D800, and find that the sensor stays clean very well. I haven’t cleaned my sensor manually once, where the 800 had to be sent out every 6 months. therwise it’s a great upgrade !
I only had my D7200 from brand new for 3 months, my wrist was in danger of repetitive strain injury trying to keep the sensor clean, I also had 1 professional Nikon service centre clean to remove oil. Not very impressive for a company in my opinion.I traded it for a cheaper model, lost £300, but the shop said take it up with Nikon, Nikon said take it up with the shop. ping pong, not for me.I had a look at your other videos, also fantastic work. I will enjoy watching them many times.I still think the shutter coating might be an issue for dirt. especially if you didn't change your lens, I kept my 50mm on after the first clean, it was attracting crap on the sensor every couple of hundred shots.
Have to say I like the review, agree on a few of the niggles on the button placement, dust and flash ( I do have a speedlight, but its extra weight on a trek). I find the battery life excellent though, but haven't used it in any extreme temperatures which can be a killer. Overall though, I love this camera and after using it for 3 months, would recommend it to anyone who wants a step up or a more serious upgrade.
thanks for the review. I've been considering this as an upgrade to my D800e.. However the Card switch from CF really is almost a deal breaker for me. Cards are no small investment and to have to buy new cards is honestly ridiculous.
The write speed of the CF cards has maxed out. If you shoot in burst mode (wildlife, sports) this becomes an issue as the camera can't offload the buffer fast enough with such large files.
I agree about the pop up flash. I had one on my old D200, but the D500 also did away with it!! I found it really handy for times you needed a bit of fill flash. I dont always want to carry around a bulky off camera flash unit.
Hello Tom, nice review! I have a question for you: L braket it works with your old model D810 or IT SPECIAL for D850? I have d800,i have L braket compatbile with d800, i am curious it works with D850? Maybe you have time and you answer my question! Thanks and keep going on!
Hi Marus, It all depends on the bracket you have. I’m using the Really Right Stuff L bracket and have used it on the D800, D810 and now the D850. Other L brackets may be exclusive to a particular model. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
Got 850 2 weeks ago, done 5,000 shots already, i love it. I have beef in places about specific use but its "nice" to haves fixed etc. Quality booms out of this camera, 64 iso is just so rich, and i used much more than i expected. So much so that when i went back to D800 it really felt like i need a second 850 for my weddings, i just would rather shoot with single over both, the D800 showed up so many failings compared to the 850, screen on back, view finder size, even sound, buffer etc, the ISO button and other ergonomics, feels lovely in hand, its so much easier on 850 once your used to it, i just tend not to move from focus window, there is no need to check. SS/AP/ISO/auto iso, all on right fingers, no left hand movement needed. I changed my record button on D800 now to ISO setting for that reason. D850 def love it
Negatives, Screen tilt when in portrait mode is painful but not overly, having LV video have Exposure metering, but not in LV Camera mode, also LV camera mode, when adjusting ISO/SS/AP has no effect on what you see in rear screen, thus the only way was to use it as i did when i wanted silent shooting, is Auto Iso. That means you can set SS and AP which we all know anyways, leave auto iso and you can then shoot to hearts content, Or as i did a few times, set up camera as you want precisely and then go LV for just composition and adj with Exp compensation, not are real "bad" things, just "nice" things to get sorted out. SS handheld without VC needs technique check, i go slightly higher SS if non VC lens as 45mb can show up movement or bad technique. This was best upgrade for sure for me over D800, when i went back to setup D800 for wedding the weekend, i just burst out laughing, its like chalk and cheese, its almost the jump i felt DX to FX tbh, its def an eye opener, not so much for the D810 guy, but still you will notice it, once you try to go back to older equipment you will find things lacking/missing. Also its just that ease of use factor in body. love love love this camera, oh dear, this was supposed to be negatives. PS, 1 big one, Banding on certain light sources in Live View happens. I tested it in an old sports hall with strip lights, i will find out what SS it occurs/stops, but its the only place i have found it happen, all other strip lighting has been fine, seems specific to one type, however that is in the exclusions in the manual.
Hi PwnedByyaMar - Interesting to hear your feedback and thanks so much for sharing with our community, many others will I am sure find this helpful - especially those shooting weddings. Glad to hear you're loving it!
Hi PwnedByyaMar, i may be wrong, but try pressing the "OK" button once in LV camera mode and i suspect it will then adjust the display as you adjust ISO/SS/AP... once you've pressed "OK" it will also show exposure metering on right-hand-side of live view screen.
Will try that out, Your talking camera mode, Manual for all, LV, adjust ISo then press ok and see the LV rear view adjust? Hopefully that works as i would love to still control my Iso, although i can limit it anyways in settings which isnt so bad thanks for info.
Yip, completely manual (i.e. i usually lock my ISO at 64 and only adjust if i have to). And I just checked it. It definitely works. Hope yours does too. Also it seems to 'remember' that i've pressed "OK" once in Live View so it re-enters Live View again in that live exposure preview (or whatever it is called) mode.
I am using the Nikon D750 (I know, it's a 5 year old model, but still produces great pictures!) and I was wondering if you have any recommandation as to whether it is worthwhile upgrading to the D850?
good video. but problem of this kind of videos is, that nobody says, is D850 really better than D810 if its about image quality? (not AF, or frame rate etc. only image quality ). Yes LL ISO has D850 better but if you shoot normal landscape photos and not night sky - it does't really mater. do you see any difference in color fidelity, saturation or dynamic range, when you shoot ex. during sunrise, sunset? I have to make decision buying D810 or D850 (for landscape) and still could not see any difference in image quality (tested both them only 1 day) thank you Tom
Thanks for feedback. Was dubious about bang for buck and making the switch, having owned the D850 for several months now, no way I would go back if that helps you!
Just came across this whilst browsing, nice video . I wanted a FX to go with my D500 so decided to get the D850 a few months ago .Really liking this camera , one of my niggles is the shutter shock vibration blur at lower shutter speeds whilst handholding but I find using EFCS in Q helps . Obviously when on a tripod using silent in live view cures the issue . Anyway I'm wanting to get more into Landscape so trying to decide which UWA lens to get , main choice was Nikon 14-24 or Tamron 15-30 but filters seem an issue with those , the options available are really expensive. Other option was something like a Nikon 16-35 f4 but heard it's not so great at 16mm having distortion and soft at the edges
Irix 15mm f/2.4 or the Irix 11mm for 100-200$ more (manual focus but great lenses in every aspect). The 15mm has a front filter thread and no protruding front element, which is great if you want to use cheaper threaded circular filters.
Great analysis! I totally agree with you on the SD vs CompactFlash cards. The CF cards have a real connector and the SD cards have only crappy exposed contacts. Huge difference!
Smaller is 'typically' better. The future of technology won't support 8-track and VHS. I agree that SD cards are easy to lose in the field. I've done it. They also fail, and they're slow. Compact Flash is too big and those pins fail with readers all of the time Compact Flash is a dead tech moving forward. It's like having moving parts in storage devices (DONE).. XQD is the only way to fly today. They are large and thick enough to be rugged, they're reliable, and they are smoking fast! Anyone that has a D850 that deoesn't shoot RAW Large should not own a D850. Photographers that are attracted to the D850 are often well versed in post production, where you see and justify the huge difference in megapixels.
nice vid. confirms that ordering an 850 to replace my 500 was a good move. your video on the dynamic range was all the convincing i needed. have you tried Luminar4 for processing? it's quit capable. waiting a couple of years saved money. $1900 used with a shutter count of 5400. watching while family is sleeping, the volume difference from your quiet voice to the loud music forces me to adjust the volume many times.
No auto-power off? I always forget to turn them off, this is a killer. All my Canons have that and u can configure after how long to turn off, usually 2 min on mine. I just keep forgettting to turn cameras off. Its a firmware upgrade, they can add it any time if they haven't yet. Battery life - its the cold in Scandinavia which kills your batteries, keep them warm, turn wifi and other useless features off. Dust, maybe its the lens sucking it in?
@@LandscapePhotographyiQ I thought it was a bit cheesy having the level on the hot shoe during the video, but I admit that I use one all of the time during architectural shoots when having vertical and horizontally aligned composition is paramount.
I watched this video based primarily on guilt about spending the money to upgrade to it from my beloved D800. I thought the D800 was going to be the last DSLR I would ever need to buy. I now say that of the D850. In Canada this camera cost me $5000, tax in. That's a ridiculous amount of money for an amateur D800 owner, or so I thought, and I wrestled with it for a very long time. I couldn't even use it for quite a while! I'm weird that way. End of story, I need to sell my D800 and I'm only hanging on to it to see if I need a second body for weddings or such, but I don't do enough of that to warrant it. To your review: in the UGLY section, you didn't even say XQD once!!! That's the ugliest thing about this camera!! Sony has already discontinued XQD in favour of some new same-form-factor CF format! That means that until the grimly anticipated firmware update, the super fast slot on the D850 is just super useless unless you can go buy up a bunch of XQD cards while they're still available, and a reader for them! Having the primary MEDIUM of the camera fall suddenly obsolete came to me as a nauseating shock. This is your UGLY!!! It also reinforces my opinion of Sony as a despicable company. The D850 uses a Toshiba sensor this time around, so maybe this was Sony's dirty joke to compensate. I have despised Sony for decades, for numerous valid reasons, and this bullshit supports my prejudice. Fuck you Sony. No, seriously.. Fuck you. After 6 months of owning the D850 and shooting with it, my guilt has been replaced with excitement and relief. This is an astoundingly good camera and I am blown away with the improvements they've made. I definitely made the right decision. Oh, and about the ISO button or whatever, just re-program your camera buttons and stop fussing about silly little things that are designed to keep you on your toes. ;-)
Put the D850 into "flight" mode. This mode disables the internal wi fi mode and allows battery life to match the D810.. Sensor dust issues are primarily caused by the attached lens. Grime and dust particles get sucked in when the mirror is in motion...
In India A Bike price = A DSLR In USA A Smartphone price= A DSLR Many people in India wanting to buy D850 but D850 cost nearly a car cost , So we cannot buy A car means DSLR.
That ISO button - on D7500 which I use (yea, DX:-)) it is on the top as well compared to old types D7XX and actually it is much better especially for quick shoots (wedding, etc.) where you have to work not only with shutter speed and aperture, in some cases I simply have to increase quickly ISO and with the button at the top I can do it even without looking at the back of the camera. It is just about a habit, for sure ISO is used more often then metering, isn't it?:-)
I own a Nikon d7500 thinking about the this camera Look i love my Nikon d7500 but I’ve seen what this beast can do I shoot landscapes, sea scapes and macro
In the middle of a shot is some situations if the card is full you have no choice! Keep watching this channel, new video on the way about why I don't clean my sensor.
common why didn't you stick with the D810 if you can´t handle bigger files! Or why don´t you shoot smaller file size! Have you ever shot a landscape with 100mpx ? When i did with the Phase one IQ3 even my D850 files looked like crap! Can´t imagine to get back for example 24MPX for landscapes ! ( but for newspaper work i would understand to even have less than 24mpx ) The pop up flash (fill flash was senseless outdoor because of the Sync Speed, so no need to have it !
Hi Gunter - no worries handling larger file sizes, its the usual adjustment period of upgrading other storage media - and cost! As I mentioned, for my needs, and more importantly the needs of my clients, its rare that I need huge files. Obviously for landscape work pop up flash wasn't essential, but for the odd occasion I needed it for something, it saved me carrying something else in my pack!
i had the D810 too, i used the pop up flash sometimes to trigger other flashes , but there always was the sync limitation! but your right, for shooting in a closed room it was better than having no flash!
Of course I do/can - but as a pro I have no problem having it professionally cleaned by a factory trained technician too. This makes it like new again and ensures I am providing my clients with the very best quality. It also saves me time in post sorting out any dust issues, which invariably is the limitation of DIY kits.
Interesting... I find much of your bad/ugly non-issues. I get almost 2000 images per charge. The ISO button should be usable with one hand, looking in view finder. I change lenses a lot in the field and dust happens but seldom and easy enough to learn to clean your own sensor. I need the megapixels. I crop big. Only thing the CF card ever did that the XQD doesn’t was bend the card reader pins. My SD is back up or overload never leaves the camera in the field. External drives and deleting crap images has solve the storage problem for me.
Hi terrym45. Thanks for your feedback and always good to hear how other owners are getting on with their cameras. As mentioned in the video, these are my findings so far based on how I am using the camera as a full time professional photographer. Good to hear you are enjoying yours and getting good results. Thanks again for your feedback and sharing your experiences with our community, which I am sure will be helpful to others considering buying the camera.
I am a wildlife photographer so I have different expectations of what I need. I shoot maybe 1-2k images in 1 or 2 days so also have heavy use. One of the great things about this camera is its versatility. Great video
Great video. I am about to finally replace my D800 and have about decided on the D850. As for the sensor cleaning issue, Am I missing something? I bought a cleaning kit for about $30 three years ago and have been cleaning all my cameras myself ever since. It's never cost me an extra penny.
Sorry you feel that way - the video 'does what it says on the tin' and shares direct user feedback from a professional photographer using it every day for his work. If you found this full of blabla then take a look at this video where we discuss the dynamic range and show example images. Hope you may find this helpful - th-cam.com/video/QBG-fNeovy8/w-d-xo.html
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The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Personally I found I can avoid the Ugly by simply not taking selfies.
Or swapping to mirrorless! :-) Cheers Ed
Is that also associated with the 'Backside' illuminated sensor?
I feel ignorant for asking this, but what is the cube sitting in your hotshoe?
No worries - it is a cheap spirit level. It saves fiddling with the in-camera menu and keeps my rear screen clearer. You can get one for not a lot of money online.
Curious. What is the cube you have mounted on the hot shoe?
It is a spirit level Morgen - so much quicker for setting up shots than using the back of the screen IMO. Hope this helps.
Thank you, Tom. Looks handy. Will research.
Top review from a working professional who has field tested the camera thanks.
I believe the battery from the D5 can be used in the D850 and will definitely give you more juice. Only problem is you may have to sell a kidney to afford the charger which is exorbitantly priced.
On a final note why is Nikon gear so damn expensive in the UK compared to elsewhere? The current price of the D850 from the Nikon UK store is £ 2,914. I was able to purchase one on sale (local not grey import) for the equivalent of £ 2,040.
I love the ISO button placement. I haven't noticed a huge battery drain; lower by maybe 10% or so IMO. I also think the OOC jpegs are some of the best I've seen, and the raw files have a LOT of editing room.
For the Ugly: the Live View AF is still abysmal compared to Canon but for my clients it's all about the photography image.
Thanks John, appreciate the feedback.
I get a full day of shooting from one battery, I have the additional battery grip so I never has to worry about running out..
I do wedding/event photography as well as landscape photography. I currently use a D750 with an old D300 as backup. I have been seriously considering buying a D850 since the D300's sensor isn't nearly as good in low light. Not much "ugly" in your review here. I think buying an 850 will be a good move. Thanks so much for your well thought out and thorough review. I always appreciate how generous photographers are with sharing their knowledge and experience.
Iso button is a great move. You can control exposure much better and faster. For landscape is not big deal but if you shoot wedding in manual.mode all day it is just brilliant. D850 is epic machine.
Agree - it is epic!
Good one Tom. Some observations:Dust - strange one - i've had a D850 for nearly 6 mths and luckily only 1 spot of dust so far; unlike my old D750 that gathered heaps. Battery life: yes eats it quicker. But I keep mine in 'flight mode' and sacrifice connectivity features. Auto-power-off: Camera switches off its 'meter' after a customisable number of seconds. Once that's off, assuming it's in flight mode, it should use no more power than if it was physically switched off; unless the shutter (or live view) is accidentally triggered in the bag.
Thanks Derek for watching and your comments. Its been great to get feedback from other users on their experiences of using the camera too - thanks for sharing!
The Ugly: That green thing on the hot shoe
The Good: There is virtual horizon!
Hallelujah
I personally use the Virtual Horizon on my D750 all the time as well! Just did a shoot, and it works wonderfully!
On pronouncing Nikon . Do as I did, ask a native Japanese speaker how it's pronounced in Japan.
At least he didn't say "I'm gonna go ahead and..." fifty times!
I've had my D850 for a year now, and there's no dust on the sensor, and the battery lasts just as long as in my D810.
Yep, thanks Brian - have a follow up video coming soon on these points.
Nikon suggests that battery life is longer than that of the D810. Unless you're using Live View all of the time in comparison.
I am a photographer and I bought it to take night photographs and I regret it because it doesn't work like the others I have, the shots don't turn out very well and it has problems when you enlarge the photos they look blurry even if you use a tripod
For a sensor cleaner, try the Gel Sensor Stick (photographylife.com/product/sensor-gel-stick). This is the first product that I have felt comfortable using. It works great, and I never have to have it done by anyone else again. Stick one in you bag, and its always there when you need it.
Thanks for taking the time to do this review! I was just checking the rest of your channel and you've got some really fantastic content, and of course, some stunning photos!
You're welcome - appreciate the positive feedback!
Agree what you said, this camera collect dust, and blow the dust into your lens.But so far everything is good.
Nice review and very well done. None of the Nikon DSLRs have had automatic shutdown. I don't have a D810 but D70, D7000, D600, D750, D500, now D850 never had shutdown. Same with Nikon SB flashes. Battery drain while on is minimal unless you leave snapbridge on. :-(. Finally there is something to remember to turn off. Your landscape photos are excellent.
Thanks Chrismzeller, really appreciate your feedback.
So you collect nikon cameras , well done. Have you ever taken a photograph? :)
Great Review. If you are not changing lenses out in the field, I'm surprised as to how you are getting dust in your sensor. I have a D500, D750 and a D810 and have never had dust get into my sensor when I go out Birding or the other shooting sessions, mainly weddings and portraits unless I take my lenses off in the field or leave a lens off of the camera inside of my home or on site and not put the body cap back on. I can see how this can be done if you are out on a Safari because of the amount of dirt around, but stranger things have happened.
Regarding the ISO button, this was first changed in the D500 and D5 and Nikon did this so that you don't have to take your eye away while changing the ISO. Nikon got very great reviews for this and have been doing this with all of their newer/expensive cameras. I reprogramed my D750 and D810 to do the same thing. You will get use to it and learn to love it. I can see why it could be a problem for you because the video record button is slightly to the left and could be pressed, which isn't a problem on the D750 or D810 because once you programed the video button to ISO on the D810 the ISO button on the left becomes the video record button and on the D750 the ISO button on the left side of the body near the left side of the screen becomes the video record button.
As far as the SD cards, you are old school and you are right the compact flash card is bigger and easier to manage, especially outside. The XQD slot and Card isn't just for the 4K video, which it is excellent for, but if your are shooting fast action or birds (which you won't be for Landscaping) the XQD provides an almost limitless buffer with super, super, super duper recovery. On the D500 and D5, you can shoot 99 shots non-stop and at the 100 shot it will pause for a moment and you can shoot another 99 shots.
There are rumors and that XQD might be discontinued buy the new Compact Flash called CFast if I'm not mistaken is backwards compatible with XQD and should only require a firmware flash to work. For me and at this time, there is no need to upgrade as between the D500 and D810, I'm pretty close to a D850 (I don't need to edit 45.7 megapixel files in Light Room, 36 megapixel files are bad enough, but the incredible deal I got on a used D810 was too good to pass on, it was less than half retail) and I have a D750 as a full Frame back up. Each of my cameras bring something different to the table and I'm quite happy with them. If I got a D850 Free or as a gift or half off, yes I would jump at that opportunity, but for now, I'm quite set for the photography that I do. I'm looking forward to a lot more reviews from you on what you uncover with that new D850 camera.
Wow - thanks Sid, that's some seriously comprehensive feedback! Will be doing a follow-up update video over the summer on how I am getting on with it, by which time it will have had a good trial around the globe in different conditions - stay tuned!
Good review. Of course, any review is, to a degree,. subjective. For instance, as a landscape photographer I like the elimination of the pop-up flash in exchange for better weather sealing. Also, as a user of a D500, where the ISO button is in the same place as the D850, it is much more convenient to have the same muscle memory for both cameras. And, although I don't have it, the D5 has the same ISO button placement. I think it's fine to make a minor change, so long as you do it consistently. Thought the rest of the review was spot on. Thanks.
Thanks David, much appreciated.
Hi Tom, I have had my D850 for six months (4000 clicks) now and have no dust on the sensor. I have never cleaned it either. Maybe your cleaning process is to blame? Any way great instructive video and I agree with everything you said.
Thanks for feedback, glad you liked the video. Still early days on the dust front and one I will be keeping an eye on.
MrHook, he mentions it is when he stops down. I have had no problems too. It sounds like the dust is in the lens, and the lower the aperture number more dust from the elements of the lens show. Cheers Matt
Thanks for your thoughts. The new button layout is adapted from the D500 and a huge improvement, just get used to it 😉. Being able to tweak ISO during shoot is fantastic. When will you use the Mode button? It’s on M permanently, isn’t it? I fully agree with your complaint on the flip screen. Looks like no one at Nikon shoots in portrait mode. I also am aware of the dust thing. The D500 I use roughly since 2016 and no sensor cleaning have been necessary yet. Not so on D850. The official temperature range is 0 to 40 °C, what are your experiences sub zero (except the need to warm up battery on body). Fuji has -10 to 40 °C range. Lack of pop up flash is really ugly. If no studio strobes are available, I hardly miss it specially in studio alike situations as tiny and lightweight control flash, to fire also non “Nikon Advanced Lightning System” flashes/speedlights (I meter manually anyway by Sekonic 308 and never use that TTL thing)
Thanks Roland for your feedback.
Great honest video Tom. I moved away from Nikon to the Fuji XT-2 because I'm an old git with a sore back and the wait of my D800e and the usual lenses for my landscapes meant I was struggling. Now have lighter kit and getting out more. BUT do I miss the dslr?? of course I do!!
Its good to see you are on youtube. I'll look forward to keeping up to date with your vlogs as I still have an interest in Nikon.
Jim
Thanks Jim - appreciate the feedback. Lots more videos on the way, hope you enjoy!
Cf cards are sufficient for landscape. Should give you an option.. These new xqd cards only useful for video work. Not like your going to fill the buffer doing landscape or really any photography really. Gimmick
I know, very annoying as I had just bought 6 new CF cards that are now obsolete. The only advantage using the XQD card is the transfer rate is much faster.
Dust is irritating for stills, but a disaster for 4k video
Great timing, was just looking to switch from my faithful D4 to something with a bit more punch. Great video Tom, cheers.
Thanks Rob - hope you enjoy it when you make the switch!
Great review, but should you use the iCloud to store 🏬 a lot of your photos. I love the Nikon D850-great for the professional look. Great review
Thanks Tom - I work in so many mixed and varied locations I cannot be tied and dependent on a wi-fi connection to back up. Some of the countries I shoot in, just getting a mobile signal for text is nightmare, let alone chunky files! I get your thinking though and thanks for feedback.
@@LandscapePhotographyiQ I store all my RAW files on a small 4 Terebyte external HD, and try not to put many at all on my MacBook Pro. I do find the MacBook on the small side for editing (especially as I get older) but my budget gives me the option of going with a better camera, or have an iMac....so the D850 wins out! :)
Reviews are consistently good on this camera, despite the same common complaints. Many, experienced vloggers are calling it the best camera ever. I may start investing in glass now, and add the body later. In the mean time, more thoroughly learn my D5600.
Thanks Elvin
I had no dust issues after two years of working in Southern Africa.
G'day Tom, great work on your channel and congrats. Regarding your sensor being clean, you say it is worse when you stop down, that indicates to me that it is your lenses which are dusty not your camera. I have had two D850's for 9 months now, and no sensor dust issues at all. Regarding battery, it certainly lasts longer than the D810 in my experience so I agree with others, that it might be the wireless chewing the battery. I love the new ISO position, for me it means it is easier to change on the fly without having to take your eye away from the viewfinder. Best of luck and congrats PS I also have a D850 review on my channel. - Cheers Matt
Thanks Matt - appreciate your feedback.
The iso button should be there where it is now. We use iso looking through the viewfinder, so easy access is more important than the mode button which is used rarely. I have the D5, D500 and the D850 and just love where the iso button is.
That auto on/off doesnt matter much since it draw same amount battery in both, which is almost zero. It just make so you cant use the shutter if its off. And that sd card point. Use a usb cable to transfer images?, and maby use the XQD slot if you want a bigger card :D
The thing about the megapixel increases is that they will be bundled with more and better features like better quality monitors that tilt and swivel in every direction. That’s how we’re compelled to upgrade or at least desire to upgrade. I love my D810 but the features on this camera make me want it. Essentially, you’re saying you won’t buy any further models than this. The megapixel increase will be inevitably tied to future models with more and better features. I bet when a model comes out they at least have one to two further iterations already planned these days. The biggest draw is the constant increase in megapixels. I remember reading a few years ago that the ceiling was just about reached for a given sensor size. How they can continuously increase the amount is baffling.
Hi Pierre, thanks for watching and your feedback. Agree with what you are saying. As I mention in the video; I personally don't upgrade for the sake of just having the latest equipment, there have to be compelling reasons to spend the money. With the D850 I felt the reasons were compelling. As to the future, lets see what they come up with next! In the meantime, hope you continue to enjoy the D810, its a cracking camera.
You can't clean your own sensor?
Hello Sir @Landscape Photography iQ
,
I am currently having Nikon D300 with Battery Pack.
Is D850 a good upgrade and good decision?
Please advise me.
Regards,
Omar
IMO yes - a massive step forward. Good luck!
I have a D300. Yes, it is a quantum leap in quality. 12 MP to 45. The other features of the 850 will blow away the 300. I like the 300 because of the DX crop factor but it is staying home this time around. There is also a big learning curve with the 850. AND you will need quality lenses. I don't think LP IQ touched on this aspect of the camera.
The battery life is comforting. Next time out I will have competition for who first announces “changing batteries”.
I received my 850 yesterday (used) from a reputable online dealer, there are 2 in NYC and 1 in Atlanta. The image quality is amazing. Today I shot a bee on a flower with a 24-120 lens. The detail was so amazing you can see the droplets of pollen on the wings. As for the 45 MP size. The are a must if you are going to crop. The dedicated "on focus" button is a big plus. I had so many frustrating times focusing with the shutter button only to have it refocus somewhere else when I recomposed the shot.
The touch screen is great and you can focus by touching the screen in the area of interest. The SD card I used today was a 32. Using JPG and RAW files I could shoot 222 images. THIS IS WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE: There is only one slot for an SD card. The other slot is for the $$$ Sony XQD card. BOO!!
One other plus: The shutter can be placed on "silent mode." This is great if you are trying to shoot birds and small mammals as they get spooked with any noise. I don't shoot video so I have no comments on the quality though some reviewers have panned the video mode.
ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT POINT: This camera will magnify any poor technique as well as any failings of so-called "consumer lenses." You will need top quality lenses to get the most out of this camera.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts - enjoy!
Great, honest little video. Viewers be warned. I ordered a brand new D850 from Abe's of Main. Took advantage of their "Halloween Special". They then told me that price was for the "Chinese version" only. So I took the other price. Instead of shipping me the D850 body in a brand new un opened box, the shipped a opened D850 Kit, in which they removed the kit lens. The whole transactions was deceitful and misleading. Viewers here would be better served to stick with a local dealer on one of a much higher reputation. Just read RIP OFF Reports. I'm not the first victim. So now I continue to wait for my D850 from a reputable dealer.
Thank you
A few points:
• Not having vertical swivel on the screen is somewhat a downside, however, even if you crop a 45MP image to 2:3 (vertical), you would have 20 megapixels left. So in many cases and with this camera, you would actually not even need to turn it 90°…
• The D850 uses a sensor based on a different technology, so yes, your impression is correct, for this sensor is superior to anything else currently on the market.
• Wait, what?, you'd like a popup flash? Seriously? If you need a light fill-flash, I recommend an old SB-400, but the use of popup flashes is considered bad practice for a reason, the same reason all professional Nikon cameras don't have those. Whatever, get a SB-400 if you really miss it.
• Concerning battery life, I finally persuaded myself into buying a battery grip. And never looked back. But different people have different habits.
All in all, nice review. Keep up the good work!
Thanks
Nikons standby by shutting the meter off. They can be 'on' and not being used and hold a charge almost as well as if they're manually shut off.
Thanks for sharing.
Seems we all have different experiences. My D850 goes to sleep and I have great battery life. I have had some dust on the sensor but a simple 'air rocket' took care of it plus doing a wet cleaning is pretty simple once you get the hang of it to save the cost of someone else cleaning. I went from a D750 and D800E and I'm glad I did......and I use the same SD cards as I did with the D750. I don't shoot a lot of wildlife or sports, so the transfer rate of the UHS-1 card is fine. Other pluses....focus peaking, focus shifting....all that I've learned and am enjoying.
Hi Bill, I discovered the reason for the excess dust. I used a rubber dust blower that was a few years old and found that the inside of it will deteriorate in time, so it will end up blowing more dust particles on the sensor. I've been using the D850 for several years now and I feel it's the best DSLR that Nikon has produced.
@@LandscapePhotographyiQ Hi Tom: That was a good catch. I often squeeze the blower multiple times before actually using but if it’s deteriorating it won’t make much difference so I think I’ll get a new one. About the button placement issue I see you’ve adjusted. I went from Canon to Nikon a few years ago…now that was an adjustment both buttons and menu. I really enjoy the D850’s resolution and low light performance. Can’t wait to get out and do some landscape photography. I’m retired now so I should have the patience…
Have you tried putting the camera in airplane mode? That blue tooth stuff really sucks up the batteries. Nikon has had some issues with bent pins on compact flash cards. I never had a bent pin but a Nikon rep told me 10 years ago they were having problems with CF cards.
Thanks Dennis - tried that and a few other things. Plan to do a follow up video soon!
I love my D850. A pleasure to shoot for sure.
Yes Dylan, after using this now for a few years I reckon it's the best DSLR that Nikon have produced. I have no need to change to mirror less as the D850 does a great job.
Great video! What lenses are you using for landscape and astrophotography with the D850? Thanks!
Brian - all the answers to your question are right here: th-cam.com/video/Q_6aiYur6CM/w-d-xo.html
Good user review. I think ISO button change makes a lot of sense. The D810 has no Auto off, however you can in the menu adjust the Auto off time of the metering system. Maybe you could try that.
Thanks!
Landscape Photography iQ I thought later it might be the backlighting of the sensor that drains the battery a bit more than the D810. I'm not sure how long that backlight stays on before and after you shoot. But possibly my suggestion might still help.
Battery issue could be having the WiFi/Bluetooth on. Turn all that off if your not using SnapBridge.
Thanks Steve
I have the Nikon D-810 I love the camera and for the few issues you mentioned such as flash, CF cards, sensor dust, and such I will keep shooting with the D-810. All the other things mentioned about the good of the camera it is workable also by using the D-810 throughly.
Good review on all the good the bad and the ugly mentioned here.
Thank you.
Thanks Gino!
tom, the american nikon, or english nikon ?? I always think ? did the americans call japanese nipon or nipon, so why do they say nikon, instead of nikon. graham in england.
You guys pronounce it the right way (nee-kon) and is the way Japanese prefer, but what surprises me is that here in the U.S. they promote the complex one themselves. Exactly the same happens with Wacom.
Good review. Some things I found to be a great improvements over the D800/810 is the autofocus speed and accuracy as well as the bright viewfinder. Definitely worth the spend if these are important to your photographic process.
Many thanks and agree!
I love my d850. Over 6,000 shutter releases so far. Had dust issue once but is was actually dust/oil on the lens I was using. Haven’t had to clean sensor yet. My battery life is great in airplane mode. Thanks for the vid 👍🏻
Thanks, glad you are enjoying yours - its a cracking camera!
I upgraded from a D800, and find that the sensor stays clean very well. I haven’t cleaned my sensor manually once, where the 800 had to be sent out every 6 months. therwise it’s a great upgrade !
A great upgrade indeed!
This video is fantastic, the dust might be the coating from the shutter. Just a thought. I had a major problem with crap on the sensor from the D7200.
Thanks for feedback. Plan to do a full video on sensors soon!
I only had my D7200 from brand new for 3 months, my wrist was in danger of repetitive strain injury trying to keep the sensor clean, I also had 1 professional Nikon service centre clean to remove oil. Not very impressive for a company in my opinion.I traded it for a cheaper model, lost £300, but the shop said take it up with Nikon, Nikon said take it up with the shop. ping pong, not for me.I had a look at your other videos, also fantastic work. I will enjoy watching them many times.I still think the shutter coating might be an issue for dirt. especially if you didn't change your lens, I kept my 50mm on after the first clean, it was attracting crap on the sensor every couple of hundred shots.
Have to say I like the review, agree on a few of the niggles on the button placement, dust and flash ( I do have a speedlight, but its extra weight on a trek). I find the battery life excellent though, but haven't used it in any extreme temperatures which can be a killer. Overall though, I love this camera and after using it for 3 months, would recommend it to anyone who wants a step up or a more serious upgrade.
Thanks cruibin!
Well done Tom...Im lovin mine...I'll be shooting my 1st wedding this Friday...2-Indra-500's. 2-sb5000's.. 24-70vr,70-200vr and 105 macro....
Thanks GUERR006 - good luck tomorrow!
thanks for the review. I've been considering this as an upgrade to my D800e.. However the Card switch from CF really is almost a deal breaker for me. Cards are no small investment and to have to buy new cards is honestly ridiculous.
The write speed of the CF cards has maxed out. If you shoot in burst mode (wildlife, sports) this becomes an issue as the camera can't offload the buffer fast enough with such large files.
Great review! Question: Which hot shoe bubble level have you found to work best with this D850? (not slip off)
Had it years and not sure of make I am afraid. Any with a screw thread would be my advise to keep tension on.
left my d3x turned on it dose not drain the battery if i come back 7days later the battery is no more drained than if it had been turned off
Interesting!
I agree about the pop up flash. I had one on my old D200, but the D500 also did away with it!! I found it really handy for times you needed a bit of fill flash. I dont always want to carry around a bulky off camera flash unit.
Agree - on the same page Ron!
Hello Tom, nice review! I have a question for you: L braket it works with your old model D810 or IT SPECIAL for D850? I have d800,i have L braket compatbile with d800, i am curious it works with D850? Maybe you have time and you answer my question! Thanks and keep going on!
Hi Marus, It all depends on the bracket you have. I’m using the Really Right Stuff L bracket and have used it on the D800, D810 and now the D850. Other L brackets may be exclusive to a particular model. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
Landscape Photography iQ thanks again! Great videos! Félicitations from Paris, France!
I think the dust issue is down to dandruff
Bit harsh abby, as I do use head and shoulders! :-)
Got 850 2 weeks ago, done 5,000 shots already, i love it. I have beef in places about specific use but its "nice" to haves fixed etc. Quality booms out of this camera, 64 iso is just so rich, and i used much more than i expected. So much so that when i went back to D800 it really felt like i need a second 850 for my weddings, i just would rather shoot with single over both, the D800 showed up so many failings compared to the 850, screen on back, view finder size, even sound, buffer etc, the ISO button and other ergonomics, feels lovely in hand, its so much easier on 850 once your used to it, i just tend not to move from focus window, there is no need to check. SS/AP/ISO/auto iso, all on right fingers, no left hand movement needed. I changed my record button on D800 now to ISO setting for that reason. D850 def love it
Negatives, Screen tilt when in portrait mode is painful but not overly, having LV video have Exposure metering, but not in LV Camera mode, also LV camera mode, when adjusting ISO/SS/AP has no effect on what you see in rear screen, thus the only way was to use it as i did when i wanted silent shooting, is Auto Iso. That means you can set SS and AP which we all know anyways, leave auto iso and you can then shoot to hearts content, Or as i did a few times, set up camera as you want precisely and then go LV for just composition and adj with Exp compensation, not are real "bad" things, just "nice" things to get sorted out. SS handheld without VC needs technique check, i go slightly higher SS if non VC lens as 45mb can show up movement or bad technique. This was best upgrade for sure for me over D800, when i went back to setup D800 for wedding the weekend, i just burst out laughing, its like chalk and cheese, its almost the jump i felt DX to FX tbh, its def an eye opener, not so much for the D810 guy, but still you will notice it, once you try to go back to older equipment you will find things lacking/missing. Also its just that ease of use factor in body. love love love this camera, oh dear, this was supposed to be negatives. PS, 1 big one, Banding on certain light sources in Live View happens. I tested it in an old sports hall with strip lights, i will find out what SS it occurs/stops, but its the only place i have found it happen, all other strip lighting has been fine, seems specific to one type, however that is in the exclusions in the manual.
Hi PwnedByyaMar - Interesting to hear your feedback and thanks so much for sharing with our community, many others will I am sure find this helpful - especially those shooting weddings. Glad to hear you're loving it!
Hi PwnedByyaMar, i may be wrong, but try pressing the "OK" button once in LV camera mode and i suspect it will then adjust the display as you adjust ISO/SS/AP... once you've pressed "OK" it will also show exposure metering on right-hand-side of live view screen.
Will try that out, Your talking camera mode, Manual for all, LV, adjust ISo then press ok and see the LV rear view adjust? Hopefully that works as i would love to still control my Iso, although i can limit it anyways in settings which isnt so bad thanks for info.
Yip, completely manual (i.e. i usually lock my ISO at 64 and only adjust if i have to). And I just checked it. It definitely works. Hope yours does too. Also it seems to 'remember' that i've pressed "OK" once in Live View so it re-enters Live View again in that live exposure preview (or whatever it is called) mode.
I am using the Nikon D750 (I know, it's a 5 year old model, but still produces great pictures!) and I was wondering if you have any recommandation as to whether it is worthwhile upgrading to the D850?
good video. but problem of this kind of videos is, that nobody says, is D850 really better than D810 if its about image quality? (not AF, or frame rate etc. only image quality ). Yes LL ISO has D850 better but if you shoot normal landscape photos and not night sky - it does't really mater.
do you see any difference in color fidelity, saturation or dynamic range, when you shoot ex. during sunrise, sunset?
I have to make decision buying D810 or D850 (for landscape) and still could not see any difference in image quality (tested both them only 1 day)
thank you Tom
Thanks for feedback. Was dubious about bang for buck and making the switch, having owned the D850 for several months now, no way I would go back if that helps you!
There is no difference in 2024...btw D810/850...in terms of IQ
Just came across this whilst browsing, nice video . I wanted a FX to go with my D500 so decided to get the D850 a few months ago .Really liking this camera , one of my niggles is the shutter shock vibration blur at lower shutter speeds whilst handholding but I find using EFCS in Q helps . Obviously when on a tripod using silent in live view cures the issue . Anyway I'm wanting to get more into Landscape so trying to decide which UWA lens to get , main choice was Nikon 14-24 or Tamron 15-30 but filters seem an issue with those , the options available are really expensive. Other option was something like a Nikon 16-35 f4 but heard it's not so great at 16mm having distortion and soft at the edges
Thanks Leo - hope you keep enjoying the camera.
Irix 15mm f/2.4 or the Irix 11mm for 100-200$ more (manual focus but great lenses in every aspect). The 15mm has a front filter thread and no protruding front element, which is great if you want to use cheaper threaded circular filters.
Great analysis! I totally agree with you on the SD vs CompactFlash cards. The CF cards have a real connector and the SD cards have only crappy exposed contacts. Huge difference!
Thanks gary!
Smaller is 'typically' better. The future of technology won't support 8-track and VHS. I agree that SD cards are easy to lose in the field. I've done it. They also fail, and they're slow. Compact Flash is too big and those pins fail with readers all of the time Compact Flash is a dead tech moving forward. It's like having moving parts in storage devices (DONE).. XQD is the only way to fly today. They are large and thick enough to be rugged, they're reliable, and they are smoking fast! Anyone that has a D850 that deoesn't shoot RAW Large should not own a D850. Photographers that are attracted to the D850 are often well versed in post production, where you see and justify the huge difference in megapixels.
nice vid. confirms that ordering an 850 to replace my 500 was a good move. your video on the dynamic range was all the convincing i needed. have you tried Luminar4 for processing? it's quit capable. waiting a couple of years saved money. $1900 used with a shutter count of 5400.
watching while family is sleeping, the volume difference from your quiet voice to the loud music forces me to adjust the volume many times.
No auto-power off? I always forget to turn them off, this is a killer. All my Canons have that and u can configure after how long to turn off, usually 2 min on mine. I just keep forgettting to turn cameras off. Its a firmware upgrade, they can add it any time if they haven't yet. Battery life - its the cold in Scandinavia which kills your batteries, keep them warm, turn wifi and other useless features off. Dust, maybe its the lens sucking it in?
fabulous video for someone who is getting ready to purchase one👍
Many thanks and hope you enjoy the new camera!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts - very helpful.
Thanks Phil, glad you found it helpful.
Hi, what is the small flash cube you have attached to the 850 in the video?
Its a hot shoe spirit level - quicker to use then referring to the back of screen!
@@LandscapePhotographyiQ I thought it was a bit cheesy having the level on the hot shoe during the video, but I admit that I use one all of the time during architectural shoots when having vertical and horizontally aligned composition is paramount.
They moved the ISO button so in manual you can change aperture, shutter and ISO with just the right hand. Canons had it for years.
I watched this video based primarily on guilt about spending the money to upgrade to it from my beloved D800. I thought the D800 was going to be the last DSLR I would ever need to buy. I now say that of the D850. In Canada this camera cost me $5000, tax in. That's a ridiculous amount of money for an amateur D800 owner, or so I thought, and I wrestled with it for a very long time. I couldn't even use it for quite a while! I'm weird that way. End of story, I need to sell my D800 and I'm only hanging on to it to see if I need a second body for weddings or such, but I don't do enough of that to warrant it.
To your review: in the UGLY section, you didn't even say XQD once!!! That's the ugliest thing about this camera!! Sony has already discontinued XQD in favour of some new same-form-factor CF format! That means that until the grimly anticipated firmware update, the super fast slot on the D850 is just super useless unless you can go buy up a bunch of XQD cards while they're still available, and a reader for them! Having the primary MEDIUM of the camera fall suddenly obsolete came to me as a nauseating shock. This is your UGLY!!! It also reinforces my opinion of Sony as a despicable company. The D850 uses a Toshiba sensor this time around, so maybe this was Sony's dirty joke to compensate. I have despised Sony for decades, for numerous valid reasons, and this bullshit supports my prejudice. Fuck you Sony. No, seriously.. Fuck you.
After 6 months of owning the D850 and shooting with it, my guilt has been replaced with excitement and relief. This is an astoundingly good camera and I am blown away with the improvements they've made. I definitely made the right decision.
Oh, and about the ISO button or whatever, just re-program your camera buttons and stop fussing about silly little things that are designed to keep you on your toes. ;-)
Thanks Tom. Any issues with lenses needing autofocus calibration at all? By the way I love the jumper, where did you get it from please?
Put the D850 into "flight" mode. This mode disables the internal wi fi mode and allows battery life to match the D810..
Sensor dust issues are primarily caused by the attached lens.
Grime and dust particles get sucked in when the mirror is in motion...
Do you know the D810 (and I'd hope the D850) has an electronic 2-axis level line?
Great and honest review! Keep them coming!
Thanks Ron, lots more on the way!
In India
A Bike price = A DSLR
In USA
A Smartphone price= A DSLR
Many people in India wanting to buy D850 but D850 cost nearly a car cost ,
So we cannot buy A car means DSLR.
Nice honest review and I am looking fwd to getting mine next week - thanks again
Thanks Ian - enjoy!
This is totally unrelated to photography but...your sweater is awesome!! Would you mind sharing where you got it? Great video too:)
GREAT REVIEW BUT WHY DOES EVERYBODY BLAST THE MUSIC IN BETWEEN THE REVIEW IT 3 TIMES AT LEAST LOUDER
Nice review. To me the C/S focusing switch is a bit awkward because you need to press the tiny button and twist the dial at the same time.
Your accent is a bit peculiar, I must say! It’s clearly American, but seems to have some standard southern English or RP influence.
American with UK twist!
That ISO button - on D7500 which I use (yea, DX:-)) it is on the top as well compared to old types D7XX and actually it is much better especially for quick shoots (wedding, etc.) where you have to work not only with shutter speed and aperture, in some cases I simply have to increase quickly ISO and with the button at the top I can do it even without looking at the back of the camera. It is just about a habit, for sure ISO is used more often then metering, isn't it?:-)
Depends if you are shooting manual or not as a general rule. Thanks for all your feedback.
Nice review. If you turn on Airplane mode...does that help save battery power?
Never tried Gary - camera is normally either on or off. Have you tried airplane mode then?
I own a Nikon d7500 thinking about the this camera
Look i love my Nikon d7500 but I’ve seen what this beast can do
I shoot landscapes, sea scapes and macro
Just switched from d7200 to the D850, do a lot of landscapes too. It is fantastic !! be ready for the extra weight though
Odd, don't have a similar dust issue with mine!
Can you kindly tell the pros and cons of this camera to a mirroless like z6 thanks
Think you have spotted our other video on this ;-)
9:30 yes SD Cards are inferior to CF physical traits
Why would you fiddle with your cards on the cliff…
Why don't you clean sensor yourself…
In the middle of a shot is some situations if the card is full you have no choice! Keep watching this channel, new video on the way about why I don't clean my sensor.
Super Video Danke!
Thanks Peter
I don't find any "ugly" in D850, it's the best DSLR I've even seen.
Good to hear!
common why didn't you stick with the D810 if you can´t handle bigger files! Or why don´t you shoot smaller file size! Have you ever shot a landscape with 100mpx ? When i did with the Phase one IQ3 even my D850 files looked like crap! Can´t imagine to get back for example 24MPX for landscapes ! ( but for newspaper work i would understand to even have less than 24mpx )
The pop up flash (fill flash was senseless outdoor because of the Sync Speed, so no need to have it !
Hi Gunter - no worries handling larger file sizes, its the usual adjustment period of upgrading other storage media - and cost! As I mentioned, for my needs, and more importantly the needs of my clients, its rare that I need huge files. Obviously for landscape work pop up flash wasn't essential, but for the odd occasion I needed it for something, it saved me carrying something else in my pack!
i had the D810 too, i used the pop up flash sometimes to trigger other flashes , but there always was the sync limitation! but your right, for shooting in a closed room it was better than having no flash!
Are you kidding?!? You dont even clean your own sensor? Lol
Of course I do/can - but as a pro I have no problem having it professionally cleaned by a factory trained technician too. This makes it like new again and ensures I am providing my clients with the very best quality. It also saves me time in post sorting out any dust issues, which invariably is the limitation of DIY kits.
CF cards has an issue with pins!
Interesting... I find much of your bad/ugly non-issues. I get almost 2000 images per charge. The ISO button should be usable with one hand, looking in view finder. I change lenses a lot in the field and dust happens but seldom and easy enough to learn to clean your own sensor. I need the megapixels. I crop big. Only thing the CF card ever did that the XQD doesn’t was bend the card reader pins. My SD is back up or overload never leaves the camera in the field. External drives and deleting crap images has solve the storage problem for me.
Hi terrym45. Thanks for your feedback and always good to hear how other owners are getting on with their cameras. As mentioned in the video, these are my findings so far based on how I am using the camera as a full time professional photographer. Good to hear you are enjoying yours and getting good results. Thanks again for your feedback and sharing your experiences with our community, which I am sure will be helpful to others considering buying the camera.
I am a wildlife photographer so I have different expectations of what I need. I shoot maybe 1-2k images in 1 or 2 days so also have heavy use. One of the great things about this camera is its versatility. Great video
Buy a flash? 8P
Great video. I am about to finally replace my D800 and have about decided on the D850. As for the sensor cleaning issue, Am I missing something? I bought a cleaning kit for about $30 three years ago and have been cleaning all my cameras myself ever since. It's never cost me an extra penny.
Thanks Frank. We have a video on the way about sensor cleaning - all will be revealed, stay tuned!
Learn to clean your own sensor. Takes only a minute or two, and it's much cheaper.
This video was useful, I like to hear/see the people’ experiences with the new cams. Well made.
Thank you, much appreciated for the feedback and glad you enjoyed.
thanks for alot of blablabla .... not even ONE example picture
Sorry you feel that way - the video 'does what it says on the tin' and shares direct user feedback from a professional photographer using it every day for his work. If you found this full of blabla then take a look at this video where we discuss the dynamic range and show example images. Hope you may find this helpful - th-cam.com/video/QBG-fNeovy8/w-d-xo.html
Wow, breakout the violins.