@@lyianx thats what i love so much about breath of the wild, i didnt know you could use cryonis on the ice blocks during vah ruta so i just shot them with a bow and arrow. then during waterblight i would stasis the last one and send it back lol.
I actually used the torch method to traverse the cold area on my first playthrough. I didn't know how to cook, and didn't really explore all that much. Sidenote: the fact that _you have to go out of your way to get softlocked_ is honestly rather impressive.
basically, in order to softlock BotW you'd have to *not* play BotW, because the game offers you everything and the kitchen sink as ways to prevent softlocking. if you think you're softlocked, it's all but guaranteed that you aren't and you just need to take a step back and think about all the options you have.
Fun video! That was a much deeper question than expected. The ACTUAL true softlock-breaker is obviously Link's ability to cook and eat wood as Rock-Hard Food to obtain health. =)
The amount of viable solutions to any given problem is one of the things I liked the most about this game. I remember two specific times I realized how many possibilities there were. The first one was while crossing the Gerudo dessert. I don't know why but I didn't have any chill food to cook a heat resisting meal with (or maybe I did and I just didn't realize it) but I noticed that if there was a shadow, you wouldn't be affected by the heat, so instead of looking for food and the cooking it, what I did was just pick up a huge metal box using the magnetic power and used that box as an umbrella to cross to get to the Oasis. Wasn't the easiest way of solving that, and it wasn't the fastest, but it got the job done and I felt super smart for finding a different path. The second time this happened was when I was trying to cross from the beach town (can't remember the name) to the island. I was sailing the boat very fast, as the game wants you to do), and when I was about halfway through the journey, I saw in front of me a lizalfos (is that the name of those lizard enemy). Instead of trying to avoid him or fight him, I decided to run over him, because I thought that the ship would act as the horse, and I was just about tu run him over. That didn't happen of course, the boat flipped and I got stranded in the middle of the ocean, but right before the upside down raft fully sunk, I casted an Ice block. I was, as a I said, halfway through, and didn't want to do the trip again, so I decided to cross over to the island using the ice blocks instead. Took a while but I managed to do it.
The metal box thing was genius! And I remember the times where I solved puzzles with metal objects by tossing them up in the air with Magnesis and catching them with Stasis, or climbed onto a sleeping Hinox to grab the weapons from its necklace, or used Cryonis to climb up a waterfall, or used Chuchu jelly to make an enemy soaked and hit them with an electric arrow, or shot the lanterns in the Boko bases to blow up the barrels and kill all the Bokos inside, or when I figured out you could pick up Stal heads so I started kicking them off cliffs, or when I used tricks like windbombing and skewing to explore more or exploit the game. Intentional or not, this game has so many ways to tackle literally anything, and any time I died in the beginning led me to try something new which led to me finding entirely new ways to play the game. People compare it to Skyrim a lot bc of its open world, but I think it's more like MGSV with the sheer possibilities you have to tackle any situation. Seriously, this game is one of my favorites of all time and goes up there with Xenoblade, MGS3, Borderlands 2 and Super Metroid. Truly one of the best games ever made.
i forgot about the cabin in the rush to explore everything and get off the plateau asap since i'd watched sooo many e3 vids about it and wanted to get to the rest of the game... lost track of the shrine itself while booking it through the Cold Zone munching food as i went and thought, well surely its on top of the tallest mountain! ... so i ran into the old man and got the doublet there unintentionally. and yes i was a player who furiously ran through eldin without fireproofing.
Furiously running through Eldin is more fun if you estimate where the settlement is and climb up the closest side of the mountain to bypass most of the road. A little harder to do blind though.
I ate peppers raw and didn't understand why they didn't give me cold resistance. Fond the doublet same as you. As for Eldin, talking to NPCs reset your burning counter and even with that I barely had enough food
@@laytonjr6601 honestly that's valid. if I remember right it took me a bit to understand the whole "cook the food to make it give you an effect" thing too
Was wondering if you were going to mention the HP exploit. I hadn't figured out cooking yet and found the mountain entrance before the cabin, so I got halfway up the mountain using the torch, fireplaces and food. When I ran out of food and broke the torch trying to fight with it I forced my way the rest of the way up using the save-scum exploit. Then I got the warm doublet at the summit because I'm naturally drawn to all the highest points instead of where I need to go.
I did that on my first play through too. I kept saving bc I didnt cook anything and I didnt know any spicy dishes AND didnt have the doblet so I did that
On my second play through I really wanted to get to Zora’s domain without doing the normal route through the electric lizalfo’s path and figured out you can climb the mountains around the domain in just the rights spots, even though it automatically starts raining, if you time your jumps right. Getting Revali’s Gale makes it even easier. Then throw windbombing into the mix and there’s nothing you can’t do.
Oh man I remember accidentally skipping the path entirely and climbing my way up It was a trip and a half because I had no idea I was even near to Domain for me it was like the bridge just showed up in the middle of nowhere
In master mode, find one of the octorock platforms. Dropping octo balloons in the platform will raise them up. Get high enough then take a korok leaf and waft on over 🍃
If you approach the Zora's Domain from behind, you can scale the waterfalls no problem with Cryonis rune. It makes horizontal platforms on waterfalls so you can make a staircase all the way up.
I haven't seen anybody else mention this, but it IS possible to softlock your game. In Master Mode, by skipping the sheikah slate using moon jump wrong warping shenanigans, you lose the ability to use runes and teleport. Then, all you have to do is get the paraglider and go to Hyrule Castle. there's an area near the front where a gate shuts behind you and there's already one down in front of you. The intended method is to use cryonis, but without the sheikah slate, you can't do that. You also can't teleport out without the sheikah slate. If you get the game to autosave and do a manual save, you can't load out. This is (accidentally) shown in Smallant's video "I made an Ultra Master Mode File in Breath of the Wild using glitches." at 16:50.
Does it really count as softlock if you still have the options available but you choose not to use them? My mind just doesn't understand that (I'd understand during a challenge but just refusing to use the mechanisms the game offers so you can say you're softlocked doesn't sound very... Normal to me lmao)
Even with challenge rules in place, it still wouldn't be softlocked. It means that you've failed the challenge since the only way to proceed is to break the rules.
IMHO it depends on our interpretation of developer intent. For example, Wolf Link doesn't mention it, but there's always the option of doing any of several different physics glitches (in practice, usually a BTB or BLSS) to get to the shrine quickly enough that you don't run out of hearts in the first place, but that's pretty obviously well into "exploit" territory, and I think most of us would not consider that a "reasonable" option to use. The game gives you numerous legit options, as the video explains at great length, so it doesn't make a difference, but if you *had* to use a glitch, I think it would be fair to call that a softlock, because a casual player would likely be unable to figure it out. That means that the definition of "softlock" depends on which interactions are intentional and which are "glitches," which is not an entirely objective question.
@@NYKevin100 yeah, especially considering how big the game is and how the developers probably counted on these mechanics to work in the first place, like the bombing thing. It's just a combination of mechanics that allows you to do that, isn't it? On the other hand yes, you're right, by conventional methods it's not possible to get softlocked!
Fun fact in my first playthrough I missed the cabin with hints and I didn't notice the spicy, so I just walked there with a torch. Also I missed the girl close to the Death Mountain that gives you a fire immunity potion, so I found this one spot where I could glide all the way to Goron City without dying and buy the clothing
I didn’t talk to the old man bc I just didn’t see him. I never learned to cook until a couple days after I first started playing. I just carried a torch with me and stayed close to fires when encountering enemies
A prime example of this comes from my own playthrough. I had stopped playing the game because I got stuck at the urbosa and yiga clan part of the dlc. Finally one day I decided to try it again but this time I was a lot more careless. I was hoping if I did it fast and failed more often I'd get a good chance eventually. I ended up getting the ball on my second or third try, something I had previously failed to do at least ten times being the utmost careful. And when I got to urbosas fight, I did it first try as well. With this game it's just a matter of time for you to succeed. And that's infinitely more fun that staring at a dungeon and being hopelessly lost having to look up a walkthrough.
I almost locked myself in Zora's domain. I desperately wanted to avoid the enemies on the road so I tried to climb over the mountains. The game doesn't like that. It rains all the time before you tame the beast. I managed to get to a cliff opposite of the bridge though. From there I only needed to glide over and climb up to the bridge. This was very difficult. Since it was the beginning of the game, I had almost no stamina. Everytime I dropped into the river I died almost instantly. And even if I made it to the rock under the bridge and then fell, I would respawn on the cliff again. There was also no going back, due to the rain. I had to make it to the bridge. Being in master mode there was also no saved checkpoint in the past. After 20 min or so I managed to get up the the bridge. But I was really close to resetting the entire game (I think trying to use the mountains to get to the zora Palace almost took as long as beating the Great plateau and wandering through kakariko)
My first playthrough I didn't talk to the old man. I picked a lotta peppers and figured out how the pot worked I was fascinated. I didn't know how to scope and ended up going the wrong way I figured finding the highest point will help then I saw the old man (still not knowing he was a ghost) found it funny and got the darn gear
Honestly plateau does a good job of letting you learn the ropes organically. I actually miss the table in the cabin my very first playthrough and used a torch before realizing I could cook a meal and even then I skipped the doublet. I appreciate it doesn't punish you for not doing things the way they intended you to do things.
It’s fun to watch this my approach was healing while taking damage and I randomly found the man at the top of the hill and he gave me the clothing piece.
After every video I always think I can not love this channel more than I do, but after every single video you prove me to be wrong and I love your content even more ❤️
I rushed to the Gerudo desert for my first Divine Beast. Didn't have any form of proper heat resistance yet. What did I do? I stuck to the shade in the day, because that keeps you cool. Had proper cold resistance from the Great Plateau, so night wasn't a problem. Great game.
Resting at campfires also restore health, someone could use that 59 second timer to reignite another campfire and rest again. Also the ability to teleport to the tower is always available. Anyways Awesome video, cant wait to see another!!!
I am the kind of player who does not cook. I just haven't. So you can imagine my surprise when I found a route through not only that, but also the volcano area. Hot springs are amazing!
I just did what I call the ”Save and Die” method, where you save, then get as far as you can, then save, die, and repeat until you get to the shrine lol
I got up the ice mountain using a torch and tree branches. I used the campfire at the bottom near the entrance to get started and just walked there until i got to the shrine. At the time I didn't know about cooking for a good period of time
Your videos are always so interesting to watch and I really like how you use text to convey your point clearly but also with some little jokes here and there. Good work, as always!
Top notch game design. Personally I made it up to the shrine using torches, campfires, maybe like 4 spicy peppers and probably autosaves on my first playthrough back in 2017 because I couldn't think of any other way 😆
2:20 Perfect pigeon profile pic! :D Cute lil guy! That's the closest I've seen anyone get to a bird without flushing them. They're so skittish (just like irl lol)! Especially those tiny sparrows! Don't fly away... Documentarian Link needs to capture your adorableness up close! Makes me wish there was an armor set that let Link walk among the animals without scaring them away or attack him. Like Majora's Mask but for wildlife.
This isn't a softlock. It's like saying standing still in the shrine's a softlock. You're just choosing to not break out. Softlocks aren't escapable, this is.
I remember when I got here the first time I died in excess because I kept just eating the peppers raw until I reread and realized I needed to cook them so logically I let them on fire with a torch until they cooked but that didn’t work so I ended up getting a lot of food and sprinting to the shrine
When my dad first played the game, we both didn't know how to get through the cold area. In the end, he got through with a combination of the torch method and the food eating to restore health method.
TIL that you could man find the old man and get the doublet *before* heading up the mountain! I don’t think I ever found that recipe book and I’ve always met him and got it on the mountain in my play throughs. :)
1:30 - I'd argue that even the unsubtle diary entry on the table there isn't "shoved in the player's face," since it's very likely that players may not approach the cold zone from that direction. Many players end up figuring out how to stave off the cold on their own and reach the mountain before they find that cabin. The cabin is just an easy-to-spot-from-a-distance landmark that players are quite likely to explore if they come at it from an angle that lets them see it, so they're rewarded with helpful information for doing more than just beelining to objective markers. As a side note, the cabin will contain a chest with the Warm Doublet inside of it if you somehow missed both of the opportunities to get it from the Old Man, and just in case you miss THAT, you can buy the Warm Doublet elsewhere anyway. Not much in this game is truly missable.
Gotta applaud the "screwed up elixir" joke. 😂 But seriously, this is why BOTW is my favorite game, I never felt "stuck" in this game, not once. I do sometimes in other games but, not this one. They give you so much freedom to do what you want and multiple options on how to complete a task that it's harder to get stuck than to get by going about it your own way. I love that there is a main task but, you get to complete it however you see fit. Just an amazing game and I hope TOTK is just as good!
agreed! in plenty of games I'd have to look at a walk through to figure stuff out because I just couldn't figure out how to progress, but I've hardly had to do that in this game! there's just so many options that it's very difficult to be unable to progress
i played this game at least 4 times and every time i use a different method to travel the cold area: the first time i didnt know anything about the game so i just travel using food to regenerate hp and making process by die and the autosave the second time i found the clothes so it was easier than the last time third time i used torch and woden weapons to keep me warm and last the fourth time i used food, is incredible how many solutions you can approach to a single puzzle in this game compared to others
i walked over to the enterance to the cold area, was like " oh cold damage," looked to my left and saw the bright red things, walked over and saw "spicy peppers," and simply thought "I wonder if I cook these if I will be fine?" so I cooked 5 and walked to the shrine. i didn't know about the book OR shirt until I watched this video. i beat the game 9 months ago.
Congratulations, you just summarized "robust" programming. When no player action can realistically break the sequence of events to the result of fatal errors, you have achieved robust programming.
You know. in order to make this video. Wolf Link literally went through all this effort to try to softlock himself (maybe he didn't eat all the food, but he did collect it.) and i must applaud his sheer dedication.
It's kind of funny, I discovered something because I was kind of dumb and didn't realize how cooking worked. I saw the recipe, and instead of walking up to the cooking pot, I went to find the seafood and threw it all onto an open fire. Fun fact: roasting spicy peppers makes an updraft. All my food flew away, and I realized why as soon as I got a glider
When I first played I didn't know you had to cook the peppers to actually get the effect... So I carried a flaming torch at first and later stuffed myself with peppers.
My second playthrough, I got cocky and didn't bring enough spicy food (didn't know the old man would give you a warm doublet) and just had to push through, eating through all my food I'd saved up
This reminded me of how i'm not even sure if I've solved every shrine like you're meant to. I've found some really tedious and inconvenient ways of solving shrines (because I was too dumb to know how to do it efficiently) that I don't even think the creators have thought about.
I didn't know about the cooking system and took the description for the chillies literally as in eating them would grant heat resistance. They did restore health though so I thought that was working. Yeah.... (last week btw as I just got a Switch)
The best part is, with full health it is actually possible to get all the way to the shrine. I’ve done that a few times in food and torch restricting challenge runs.
I rely on the bombs a lot. The boars would run off after I hit them with an arrow and I'd have to chase them and try to hit them again usually not successfully. I got mad after my only bow broke and threw a bomb at one. Imagine my surprise when it killed him and left the meat for me. Never wasted an arrow on a critter agai . It's funny how when the first time I played I had no idea how many resources I had on the Great Plateau. Took me forever to figure out I had to go get the warm doublet from the old guy! Only to realize much later that there were other ways around it.
On my first playthrough I used campfires to slowly get to the top of the mountain for the shrine. My dumbass didn't know what cooking was at that time so eh. Worked out in the end in suppose.
I could not figure out how to make that recipe (I didn't know there were fish) and I thought I had to do that to advance, and I didn't want to look stuff up, so I ended up quitting and not playing for probably more than a year.
First time I played, i made spicy roasted peppers and climbed to the top to see the whole area lol. Got the nice warm doublet without even knowing that was a thing. Oh, and if you really managed to deplete every resource, there is one noncheaty way to fix it. Amibo. Any amibo will drop basic items like food, wood, arrows and monster parts as standard, once per day when used. Even the animal crossing amibo cards work for that. That's a fair bit of basic food you can get if you don't have any Zelda theme amibos.
This is incredibly impressive on the game designer's part but earlier today I softlocked Eventide Island by accidentally dropping one of the glowing orb thingies into a mudpit, and whenever I tried to get it I died.
9:52 once they done all that and finally think they softlocked themselves, then they remember that wind bombing and BLSS is a thing so they can travel to the shrine at super speed before they can take much damage at all
umm yeah do you want to know how i completed the walk to the snow shrine thingy? no? well i will say it anyways. pretty much a mix of campfire chain and torch use: so i got a torch, lighted it before heading in, went to the place with the doors you can chance with magnesium, i put down burnable wood and used a fire arrow or flint and put down cryionis once or twice. i put the door on it, did some more stuff, walked up to boko camp, fighted while pretty much in the campfire, lit the torch and went further
9:28 hahaha I'm so glad I'm not the only one who felt like the loading screen was sassing me- I am extremely bad at fighting but also extremely stubborn so I kept getting the one that was like "Don't just run into battle, have a plan" (despite reading it a hundred times I don't remember the exact words, sue me) and every time I was like I Do Have A Strategy! it's to be Stronger Than My Opponent!! And you know what I still don't know how to use a shield or how to dodge or backflip or do a special move or whatever (sometimes it happens on accident but I couldn't tell you what button does it) but I still managed to get all four beasts and all the shrines and beat Ganon and then get the extra four shrines from the DLC and re-fight all the blights in the dream world (I had to take several breaks because as soon as it isn't fun anymore I save&quit and try again later) so like. The method of Have Bow, Swing Sword Fast, Stabby Stabby, Never Stop Circling Opponent works well enough for a non-gamer to beat the whole game xD
I did the one where i just kept loading the autosave. I was kind of oblivious to the environment at the beginning of the game, so I thought that was what you were supposed to do.
It's nice that the Developers did so much to prevent softlocking yourself.
And not just for that, but that they made many solutions to one problem so you were not pigeon holed into only doing it one way.
@@lyianx thats what i love so much about breath of the wild, i didnt know you could use cryonis on the ice blocks during vah ruta so i just shot them with a bow and arrow. then during waterblight i would stasis the last one and send it back lol.
They didn't even mean to prevent soft-locking im sure. they just wanted to give players freedom
@@zygarde.r6461 I was the opposite, i thought the only way to stop them was to use Cryonis :)
Also lots of neat replay potential here, different ways to handle all the various areas
Wolf link: “I just couldn’t bring myself to harm this little guy.”
Wolf link five seconds later: *holding the corpse of the pigeon*
🤔
That pigeon has received a royal pardon, but it's still open season for his brother.
"That was a totally different pigeon, officer! I swear!"
the best bit about this is the pigeon is gone in the 2nd scene
He wouldn't hurt a fly! Nor 2 out of 3 pigeons!
Your username makes this 10x better
i love that even in this scenario to softlock yourself you have to CHOOSE to not use the last few methods so it's still hardly a softlock lmao
I actually used the torch method to traverse the cold area on my first playthrough. I didn't know how to cook, and didn't really explore all that much.
Sidenote: the fact that _you have to go out of your way to get softlocked_ is honestly rather impressive.
same but used campfires aswell
Bro same I thought I was crazy I did the whole thing with a torch
Same
oh god, I didn't even know what a torch was!
Same, and it took me til kakariko to figure out how to cook properly. Until then I was eating roasted items from campfires.
"For funsies, I foraged in the forest and plains area pocketing everything that wasn't bolted down."
I frikin love this channel.
Whenever i switch between Skyrim and BotW, I am absolutely amazed at how BotW's quests simply don't softlock.
This was extremely well put together, and shows EXACTLY why I love the Great Plateau. Well done Wolf Link.
basically, in order to softlock BotW you'd have to *not* play BotW, because the game offers you everything and the kitchen sink as ways to prevent softlocking. if you think you're softlocked, it's all but guaranteed that you aren't and you just need to take a step back and think about all the options you have.
Fun video! That was a much deeper question than expected.
The ACTUAL true softlock-breaker is obviously Link's ability to cook and eat wood as Rock-Hard Food to obtain health. =)
The amount of viable solutions to any given problem is one of the things I liked the most about this game. I remember two specific times I realized how many possibilities there were. The first one was while crossing the Gerudo dessert. I don't know why but I didn't have any chill food to cook a heat resisting meal with (or maybe I did and I just didn't realize it) but I noticed that if there was a shadow, you wouldn't be affected by the heat, so instead of looking for food and the cooking it, what I did was just pick up a huge metal box using the magnetic power and used that box as an umbrella to cross to get to the Oasis. Wasn't the easiest way of solving that, and it wasn't the fastest, but it got the job done and I felt super smart for finding a different path.
The second time this happened was when I was trying to cross from the beach town (can't remember the name) to the island. I was sailing the boat very fast, as the game wants you to do), and when I was about halfway through the journey, I saw in front of me a lizalfos (is that the name of those lizard enemy). Instead of trying to avoid him or fight him, I decided to run over him, because I thought that the ship would act as the horse, and I was just about tu run him over. That didn't happen of course, the boat flipped and I got stranded in the middle of the ocean, but right before the upside down raft fully sunk, I casted an Ice block. I was, as a I said, halfway through, and didn't want to do the trip again, so I decided to cross over to the island using the ice blocks instead. Took a while but I managed to do it.
okay the idea of using a metal box as a parasol is genius actually
The metal box thing was genius!
And I remember the times where I solved puzzles with metal objects by tossing them up in the air with Magnesis and catching them with Stasis, or climbed onto a sleeping Hinox to grab the weapons from its necklace, or used Cryonis to climb up a waterfall, or used Chuchu jelly to make an enemy soaked and hit them with an electric arrow, or shot the lanterns in the Boko bases to blow up the barrels and kill all the Bokos inside, or when I figured out you could pick up Stal heads so I started kicking them off cliffs, or when I used tricks like windbombing and skewing to explore more or exploit the game. Intentional or not, this game has so many ways to tackle literally anything, and any time I died in the beginning led me to try something new which led to me finding entirely new ways to play the game. People compare it to Skyrim a lot bc of its open world, but I think it's more like MGSV with the sheer possibilities you have to tackle any situation.
Seriously, this game is one of my favorites of all time and goes up there with Xenoblade, MGS3, Borderlands 2 and Super Metroid. Truly one of the best games ever made.
I love how botw offers so many paths to the same solution. It’s such a well thought out and carefully crafted game.
Apparently the game tries REALLY HARD to give you a warm doublet early on. Somehow I missed every single opportunity.
i forgot about the cabin in the rush to explore everything and get off the plateau asap since i'd watched sooo many e3 vids about it and wanted to get to the rest of the game... lost track of the shrine itself while booking it through the Cold Zone munching food as i went and thought, well surely its on top of the tallest mountain! ... so i ran into the old man and got the doublet there unintentionally. and yes i was a player who furiously ran through eldin without fireproofing.
Furiously running through Eldin is more fun if you estimate where the settlement is and climb up the closest side of the mountain to bypass most of the road. A little harder to do blind though.
I ate peppers raw and didn't understand why they didn't give me cold resistance. Fond the doublet same as you.
As for Eldin, talking to NPCs reset your burning counter and even with that I barely had enough food
@@laytonjr6601 honestly that's valid. if I remember right it took me a bit to understand the whole "cook the food to make it give you an effect" thing too
@@BonaparteBardithion i started at the eldin tower! glided about halfway and then ran the rest of it. 10/10 gaming experience.
@@pharoahcaraboo9610 Mood. I didn't find the stable where they sold fireproof elixirs so brute force it was.
Was wondering if you were going to mention the HP exploit.
I hadn't figured out cooking yet and found the mountain entrance before the cabin, so I got halfway up the mountain using the torch, fireplaces and food. When I ran out of food and broke the torch trying to fight with it I forced my way the rest of the way up using the save-scum exploit.
Then I got the warm doublet at the summit because I'm naturally drawn to all the highest points instead of where I need to go.
I did that on my first play through too. I kept saving bc I didnt cook anything and I didnt know any spicy dishes AND didnt have the doblet so I did that
I didnt know about this at the time either... I was so dumb
On my second play through I really wanted to get to Zora’s domain without doing the normal route through the electric lizalfo’s path and figured out you can climb the mountains around the domain in just the rights spots, even though it automatically starts raining, if you time your jumps right. Getting Revali’s Gale makes it even easier. Then throw windbombing into the mix and there’s nothing you can’t do.
Oh man I remember accidentally skipping the path entirely and climbing my way up It was a trip and a half because I had no idea I was even near to Domain for me it was like the bridge just showed up in the middle of nowhere
Alternate path my wife found; Get a korok leaf and use the raft on the east coast
In master mode, find one of the octorock platforms. Dropping octo balloons in the platform will raise them up. Get high enough then take a korok leaf and waft on over 🍃
If you approach the Zora's Domain from behind, you can scale the waterfalls no problem with Cryonis rune. It makes horizontal platforms on waterfalls so you can make a staircase all the way up.
i did that on my first playthrough and did the lizal route on my second
I actually ate all the peppers without knowing how the cook system worked, i just waited until they respawned and actually used them to cook
I haven't seen anybody else mention this, but it IS possible to softlock your game. In Master Mode, by skipping the sheikah slate using moon jump wrong warping shenanigans, you lose the ability to use runes and teleport. Then, all you have to do is get the paraglider and go to Hyrule Castle. there's an area near the front where a gate shuts behind you and there's already one down in front of you. The intended method is to use cryonis, but without the sheikah slate, you can't do that. You also can't teleport out without the sheikah slate. If you get the game to autosave and do a manual save, you can't load out. This is (accidentally) shown in Smallant's video "I made an Ultra Master Mode File in Breath of the Wild using glitches." at 16:50.
Does it really count as softlock if you still have the options available but you choose not to use them? My mind just doesn't understand that (I'd understand during a challenge but just refusing to use the mechanisms the game offers so you can say you're softlocked doesn't sound very... Normal to me lmao)
Even with challenge rules in place, it still wouldn't be softlocked. It means that you've failed the challenge since the only way to proceed is to break the rules.
@@BonaparteBardithion ooooh okay that makes more sense!! :)
IMHO it depends on our interpretation of developer intent. For example, Wolf Link doesn't mention it, but there's always the option of doing any of several different physics glitches (in practice, usually a BTB or BLSS) to get to the shrine quickly enough that you don't run out of hearts in the first place, but that's pretty obviously well into "exploit" territory, and I think most of us would not consider that a "reasonable" option to use. The game gives you numerous legit options, as the video explains at great length, so it doesn't make a difference, but if you *had* to use a glitch, I think it would be fair to call that a softlock, because a casual player would likely be unable to figure it out. That means that the definition of "softlock" depends on which interactions are intentional and which are "glitches," which is not an entirely objective question.
@@NYKevin100 yeah, especially considering how big the game is and how the developers probably counted on these mechanics to work in the first place, like the bombing thing. It's just a combination of mechanics that allows you to do that, isn't it? On the other hand yes, you're right, by conventional methods it's not possible to get softlocked!
Softlocking speedrun: Refuse to touch the controller :p
Fun fact in my first playthrough I missed the cabin with hints and I didn't notice the spicy, so I just walked there with a torch. Also I missed the girl close to the Death Mountain that gives you a fire immunity potion, so I found this one spot where I could glide all the way to Goron City without dying and buy the clothing
I also like how there is almost always more than one way to solve puzzles.
This vid was so cool! Really shows how much love and care was put into it by the devs
They did a great job making sure no one can get stuck.
I didn’t talk to the old man bc I just didn’t see him. I never learned to cook until a couple days after I first started playing. I just carried a torch with me and stayed close to fires when encountering enemies
"bUT WhAT If i doN'T WAnT TO toUCH The coNtrOLLeR at aLl???" 🤣
Even if you clipped out of the shrine of resurrection, you can still go back to watch the cutscene
A prime example of this comes from my own playthrough. I had stopped playing the game because I got stuck at the urbosa and yiga clan part of the dlc. Finally one day I decided to try it again but this time I was a lot more careless. I was hoping if I did it fast and failed more often I'd get a good chance eventually. I ended up getting the ball on my second or third try, something I had previously failed to do at least ten times being the utmost careful. And when I got to urbosas fight, I did it first try as well. With this game it's just a matter of time for you to succeed. And that's infinitely more fun that staring at a dungeon and being hopelessly lost having to look up a walkthrough.
BotW; with enough determination and self control, you can do anything you want, including soft locking yourself.
I almost locked myself in Zora's domain. I desperately wanted to avoid the enemies on the road so I tried to climb over the mountains. The game doesn't like that. It rains all the time before you tame the beast. I managed to get to a cliff opposite of the bridge though. From there I only needed to glide over and climb up to the bridge. This was very difficult. Since it was the beginning of the game, I had almost no stamina. Everytime I dropped into the river I died almost instantly.
And even if I made it to the rock under the bridge and then fell, I would respawn on the cliff again.
There was also no going back, due to the rain. I had to make it to the bridge. Being in master mode there was also no saved checkpoint in the past. After 20 min or so I managed to get up the the bridge. But I was really close to resetting the entire game (I think trying to use the mountains to get to the zora Palace almost took as long as beating the Great plateau and wandering through kakariko)
Could just teleport to the nearest tower or shrine to get out...
This mf doesn't know about teleporting 💀
You should totally become a professor in Zeldaology. I mean it.
My first playthrough I didn't talk to the old man. I picked a lotta peppers and figured out how the pot worked I was fascinated. I didn't know how to scope and ended up going the wrong way I figured finding the highest point will help then I saw the old man (still not knowing he was a ghost) found it funny and got the darn gear
Honestly plateau does a good job of letting you learn the ropes organically. I actually miss the table in the cabin my very first playthrough and used a torch before realizing I could cook a meal and even then I skipped the doublet. I appreciate it doesn't punish you for not doing things the way they intended you to do things.
.."just mess around"..
That is this game in a nutshell, and what makes it so great.
“I couldn’t bring myself to harm this little guy” Pigeon is gone in the next scene as he uses poultry to cook the meal
It’s fun to watch this my approach was healing while taking damage and I randomly found the man at the top of the hill and he gave me the clothing piece.
It's been 4 years since I started playing BOTW and I didn't know you could use guardian parts for elixirs until now.
Same, I thought they were too mechanical for elixirs.
After every video I always think I can not love this channel more than I do, but after every single video you prove me to be wrong and I love your content even more ❤️
I love the number of key they gave us to open a single door in this game
And then there are the puzzles that have a designed solution, but the workaround is way easier than what you are supposed to do.
I laughed out loud when you threw the rock at the boar. Good job
I rushed to the Gerudo desert for my first Divine Beast. Didn't have any form of proper heat resistance yet. What did I do? I stuck to the shade in the day, because that keeps you cool. Had proper cold resistance from the Great Plateau, so night wasn't a problem. Great game.
Resting at campfires also restore health, someone could use that 59 second timer to reignite another campfire and rest again. Also the ability to teleport to the tower is always available. Anyways Awesome video, cant wait to see another!!!
Hmm, I don't remember campfires restoring health...
They don't restore health - only sleeping does that.
@@H3llo_w0rldXD they don’t? Mb
@@justyouraveragecorgi My bad for the misinformation
I am the kind of player who does not cook. I just haven't. So you can imagine my surprise when I found a route through not only that, but also the volcano area. Hot springs are amazing!
I didn't know how to cook, and never got the clues to get the warm clothing, so I just got a torch and went yolo
I just did what I call the ”Save and Die” method, where you save, then get as far as you can, then save, die, and repeat until you get to the shrine lol
And btw, with the torch method, you could use the weapon smuggling glitch :/
@@eriksvensk7356 what's the weapon smuggling glitch? I don't think I've seen that one before-
New novelty speedrun category: softlock%
I got up the ice mountain using a torch and tree branches. I used the campfire at the bottom near the entrance to get started and just walked there until i got to the shrine. At the time I didn't know about cooking for a good period of time
i love how by the end its "because of your severe wood allergy or whatever"
Your videos are always so interesting to watch and I really like how you use text to convey your point clearly but also with some little jokes here and there. Good work, as always!
Top notch game design. Personally I made it up to the shrine using torches, campfires, maybe like 4 spicy peppers and probably autosaves on my first playthrough back in 2017 because I couldn't think of any other way 😆
Love your channel man, I appreciate you doing this BOTW research
2:20 Perfect pigeon profile pic! :D
Cute lil guy! That's the closest I've seen anyone get to a bird without flushing them. They're so skittish (just like irl lol)!
Especially those tiny sparrows! Don't fly away... Documentarian Link needs to capture your adorableness up close!
Makes me wish there was an armor set that let Link walk among the animals without scaring them away or attack him. Like Majora's Mask but for wildlife.
This isn't a softlock. It's like saying standing still in the shrine's a softlock. You're just choosing to not break out. Softlocks aren't escapable, this is.
I remember when I got here the first time I died in excess because I kept just eating the peppers raw until I reread and realized I needed to cook them so logically I let them on fire with a torch until they cooked but that didn’t work so I ended up getting a lot of food and sprinting to the shrine
"severe wood allergy"
When my dad first played the game, we both didn't know how to get through the cold area. In the end, he got through with a combination of the torch method and the food eating to restore health method.
TIL that you could man find the old man and get the doublet *before* heading up the mountain! I don’t think I ever found that recipe book and I’ve always met him and got it on the mountain in my play throughs. :)
I did a campfire chain, was very tedious but satisfying in a way
1:30 - I'd argue that even the unsubtle diary entry on the table there isn't "shoved in the player's face," since it's very likely that players may not approach the cold zone from that direction. Many players end up figuring out how to stave off the cold on their own and reach the mountain before they find that cabin. The cabin is just an easy-to-spot-from-a-distance landmark that players are quite likely to explore if they come at it from an angle that lets them see it, so they're rewarded with helpful information for doing more than just beelining to objective markers.
As a side note, the cabin will contain a chest with the Warm Doublet inside of it if you somehow missed both of the opportunities to get it from the Old Man, and just in case you miss THAT, you can buy the Warm Doublet elsewhere anyway. Not much in this game is truly missable.
My first play through, I realized that reloading the save from dieing gave you 3 hearts, so I just saved before dieing and reloaded all the way
Gotta applaud the "screwed up elixir" joke.
😂
But seriously, this is why BOTW is my favorite game, I never felt "stuck" in this game, not once.
I do sometimes in other games but, not this one.
They give you so much freedom to do what you want and multiple options on how to complete a task that it's harder to get stuck than to get by going about it your own way.
I love that there is a main task but, you get to complete it however you see fit.
Just an amazing game and I hope TOTK is just as good!
agreed! in plenty of games I'd have to look at a walk through to figure stuff out because I just couldn't figure out how to progress, but I've hardly had to do that in this game! there's just so many options that it's very difficult to be unable to progress
@@raviosolaire I know right!
I love that they give you a story to follow but, the freedom to complete that story however you see fit!
I honestly didn't know about the warm clothes from the old man... I just ate some peppers lol
i played this game at least 4 times and every time i use a different method to travel the cold area:
the first time i didnt know anything about the game so i just travel using food to regenerate hp and making process by die and the autosave
the second time i found the clothes so it was easier than the last time
third time i used torch and woden weapons to keep me warm
and last the fourth time i used food, is incredible how many solutions you can approach to a single puzzle in this game compared to others
i walked over to the enterance to the cold area, was like " oh cold damage," looked to my left and saw the bright red things, walked over and saw "spicy peppers," and simply thought "I wonder if I cook these if I will be fine?" so I cooked 5 and walked to the shrine. i didn't know about the book OR shirt until I watched this video. i beat the game 9 months ago.
Congratulations, you just summarized "robust" programming. When no player action can realistically break the sequence of events to the result of fatal errors, you have achieved robust programming.
This was highly entertaining! Got this randomly recommanded.
You gained a new sub for your efforts :)
You know. in order to make this video. Wolf Link literally went through all this effort to try to softlock himself (maybe he didn't eat all the food, but he did collect it.) and i must applaud his sheer dedication.
Also, you can also just run very fast towards the shrine, the speedrun reaches it before freezing to death quite easily.
This video's title should be "101 Ways to Traverse the Cold Regions in BOTW's Tutorial"
No need to worry about the old man taking your food you keep it even if you get the doublet
It's kind of funny, I discovered something because I was kind of dumb and didn't realize how cooking worked. I saw the recipe, and instead of walking up to the cooking pot, I went to find the seafood and threw it all onto an open fire. Fun fact: roasting spicy peppers makes an updraft. All my food flew away, and I realized why as soon as I got a glider
Im thinking of changing my legal name to Hylian Snorlax
When I first played I didn't know you had to cook the peppers to actually get the effect...
So I carried a flaming torch at first and later stuffed myself with peppers.
For some reason, this reminds me of learning Proofs in geometry
Can't believe I got softlocked on my "no touching the controller" challenge run.
First time playing, I missed the old man's house. I didn't know about cooking. What I did is set wooden weapon on fire and use that for warmth!
It wasn’t until recently I found out about the book and the cabin and that you can get the warm doublet without climbing that one peak
My second playthrough, I got cocky and didn't bring enough spicy food (didn't know the old man would give you a warm doublet) and just had to push through, eating through all my food I'd saved up
This reminded me of how i'm not even sure if I've solved every shrine like you're meant to. I've found some really tedious and inconvenient ways of solving shrines (because I was too dumb to know how to do it efficiently) that I don't even think the creators have thought about.
I didn't know about the cooking system and took the description for the chillies literally as in eating them would grant heat resistance.
They did restore health though so I thought that was working.
Yeah.... (last week btw as I just got a Switch)
The best part is, with full health it is actually possible to get all the way to the shrine. I’ve done that a few times in food and torch restricting challenge runs.
Greetings from the BIG SKY. Livin off the land.
I rely on the bombs a lot. The boars would run off after I hit them with an arrow and I'd have to chase them and try to hit them again usually not successfully. I got mad after my only bow broke and threw a bomb at one. Imagine my surprise when it killed him and left the meat for me. Never wasted an arrow on a critter agai . It's funny how when the first time I played I had no idea how many resources I had on the Great Plateau. Took me forever to figure out I had to go get the warm doublet from the old guy! Only to realize much later that there were other ways around it.
On my first playthrough I used campfires to slowly get to the top of the mountain for the shrine. My dumbass didn't know what cooking was at that time so eh. Worked out in the end in suppose.
I love this video. If I remember correctly, I just ate apples to heal every time I got hurt on that first cold area.
well are we soft blocked yet?
Gotta fuck around to find out
I could not figure out how to make that recipe (I didn't know there were fish) and I thought I had to do that to advance, and I didn't want to look stuff up, so I ended up quitting and not playing for probably more than a year.
Me and my severe wood allergy or whatever are tremendously offended by this video.
...hardcore soft-lockers seems like something Rick Sanchez would be opposed to... Or sell deficient flesh-hooks to, who knows!
First time I played, i made spicy roasted peppers and climbed to the top to see the whole area lol. Got the nice warm doublet without even knowing that was a thing.
Oh, and if you really managed to deplete every resource, there is one noncheaty way to fix it. Amibo.
Any amibo will drop basic items like food, wood, arrows and monster parts as standard, once per day when used.
Even the animal crossing amibo cards work for that. That's a fair bit of basic food you can get if you don't have any Zelda theme amibos.
This is incredibly impressive on the game designer's part but earlier today I softlocked Eventide Island by accidentally dropping one of the glowing orb thingies into a mudpit, and whenever I tried to get it I died.
9:52 once they done all that and finally think they softlocked themselves, then they remember that wind bombing and BLSS is a thing so they can travel to the shrine at super speed before they can take much damage at all
umm yeah do you want to know how i completed the walk to the snow shrine thingy? no? well i will say it anyways.
pretty much a mix of campfire chain and torch use:
so i got a torch, lighted it before heading in, went to the place with the doors you can chance with magnesium, i put down burnable wood and used a fire arrow or flint and put down cryionis once or twice. i put the door on it, did some more stuff, walked up to boko camp, fighted while pretty much in the campfire, lit the torch and went further
9:28 hahaha I'm so glad I'm not the only one who felt like the loading screen was sassing me- I am extremely bad at fighting but also extremely stubborn so I kept getting the one that was like "Don't just run into battle, have a plan" (despite reading it a hundred times I don't remember the exact words, sue me) and every time I was like I Do Have A Strategy! it's to be Stronger Than My Opponent!! And you know what I still don't know how to use a shield or how to dodge or backflip or do a special move or whatever (sometimes it happens on accident but I couldn't tell you what button does it) but I still managed to get all four beasts and all the shrines and beat Ganon and then get the extra four shrines from the DLC and re-fight all the blights in the dream world (I had to take several breaks because as soon as it isn't fun anymore I save&quit and try again later) so like. The method of Have Bow, Swing Sword Fast, Stabby Stabby, Never Stop Circling Opponent works well enough for a non-gamer to beat the whole game xD
"Instead of throwing yourself at enemies over and over to no avail,..." yup, I know that screen very well for ....reasons. Ahem.
I did the one where i just kept loading the autosave. I was kind of oblivious to the environment at the beginning of the game, so I thought that was what you were supposed to do.
the humor in these videos is top of the pops ;>
I didn't know any of this and used the eat raw peppers and apples to not die technic
My first time on the game i used dubious food to go trought the cold zone in the great plateau lol
'No, You are not softlocked bacause you can eat wood. just cook wood!'
You can climb with a lit torch- just weapon smuggle to make it always in your hand and not get put away when you run.