I'd watch Lisa just to see the latest t-shirt. Of course, we know that Lisa will always give us a thorough, objective review that sets the standard for everyone else.
I was just doing some research on these (and the hades canyon ones), and was like "wonder if Lisa has a video on them yet", I come look at "uploaded 19 hours ago". Talk about excellent timing! :D
@ulhurusurf club I don't think we'll be seeing a Coffee Lake version for probably another 1.5-2 years or so. On one hand I'd also love one of those, but I don't think I want to wait quite that long ...
5:07 - The taller model provides space to mount a 2.5" drive internally. There should be no difference between the two heights from a cooling perspective since the CPU is on the top of the NUC and is cooled using the same cooling fan for both models.
I've got the i5, 8GB, 256GB NVME and a 7200 rpm HDD linked to a Razer Core X with a rx580. Running far cry 5 for hours it does get a little hot and noisy but I love this combo has replaced my desktop PC and with the NUC on top fits in an IKEA shelf! My Mac mini with 32GB linked to HP Omen with rx580 and 1TB SSD cost a lot more but both together take up less space then old desktop. One for work and one for play/Linux. I love small form factor computers and can take either away fro very decent work performance without eGPU easily.
I use this exact model, with 16GB RAM and a 500GB PCIe SSD, as my daily office PC and it is fantastic. Enough threads to handle virtually all workloads, more power graphics than your average iGPU, super low power consumption and fits on the back of my monitor's VESA mount.
Why not use an external GPU when u want serious gaming (does it have a 2nd Wifi slot "mPCIe" or thunderbolt or optical?). I'd like to see this NUC with an ALL WIRELESS setup: GeChic 15" or 16" touch display w/ wireless fob, and wireless I/O devices. Definitely a strap-on powerpack UPS/mains replacement
@@xmaverickhunterkx I own the i5 version since about January and use it as a Plex media server (4TB HDD attached via USB) and occasional emulation machine for retro gaming (Launchbox installed on an internal 1tb ssd). This little machine is SO amazing and is indeed quiet. In fact, it is the perfect first computer for a child.
@Harmonic Convergence I'm running Win10. I got a working license for under 20 CAD from website called g2deal or something like that. The trick, as I learned, is to use it very fast after purchasing.
@@georgepitaru wow great info. I'm planning to purchase the i5 and I wanna hook it up to my old CRT TV. It have the composite converter. I able to play Ps4 games on it because of the converter. The only question I have is, will this mini pc HDMI work the same way for my old TV, just as the Ps4 via HDMI connection?
Makes a great Linux box. The 655 graphics will even give decent frame rates for slightly older games, and especially esports at 1080p. The i5 is the sweet spot IMO, 8 threads and will run a tad cooler than the i7.
I've got the NUC8i5BEH version. It does hiccup on initial heavy page loads in Chrome running on openSUSE LEAP 15.0 .... but rest of the time it is perfectly fine. Plays YT, Vimeo etc. If you need multi-monitor setup just be mindful ... connect 1 HDMI, and any OTHER connector ... I've got a Thunderbolt3 dock/hub ... which has HDMI and VGA ... I can't hookup 2 HDMIs ... but it works with 1 VGA + 1 HDMI .... I haven't figured it out why that is the case yet ... scratching my head why ...
NUCs are perfect corporate productivity workstations, we use some for that, especially if you have a way to distribute OS images to them more or less automatically instead of having to install Windows manually. They can handle dual screens (if you choose the right variant) and they come with VESA mounts so you can just bolt them to the back of a screen if the screen isn't already using VESA. Obviously also great for home users who don't need gaming capability. For IT staff, the ability to just grab a monitor with the PC on it and boom, you're carrying the entire workstation, is awesome. No more schlepping needlessly large computers around.
I use one of these as a home media server, it runs Plex for media serving and phone backup, Resilio Sync for file distribution and backup and an FTP server for remote access. I love this little guy :D If mine ever dies, I'll get another one fo-sho!
The new Raspberry Pi 4 is powerful enough to do those things too I suspect, for $50. Sure, Linux requires a tad bit more involvement to get it going but I have a Pi 3 serving music files and doing other "housekeeping" tasks. Works great.
@@cr0ft-2k I have tried with a Raspberry Pi (not the 4th), but in the end it wasn't powerful enough for the multiple transcoding needed. In the end the NUC was the best option.
@@enterthehyuver4747 really ? The warranty by Astrindo (Official) or other distributor (Not official) ? ASRock desk mini A300 that's an old stuff aren't they ?
Cek aja di toko2 tokped, saya sudah liat banyak yang jual, ga jelas juga sih barang untuk distribusi indo atau bm dari malaysia, tapi pastinya dah ada, mau dibilang barang lama juga produknya umurnya belum setengah tahun dan baru masuk disini sekitar bulan lalu.
i think they need to reconsider their wattage measure. 15w can go to 25w, 45w will hit 100w if temps permit. all companies advertise boost clock, but not all systems can handle it, and some are far worse than others
My 8565U advertises a base speed of 1.9. I can jam it on 2.5ghz all cores, no worries without hitting max temps, and also extend the boost time. Occasionally it thermal throttles but only under serious load. This is even more the case if I undervolt it. IDK if this is because it has proper cooling versus say, a laptop, but it seems to well exceed the label specs. That said, I tend to run it on an eco mode most of the time, because only games and some other stuff actually needs that power.
You need to revisit your understanding of how it's measured and advertised and compare it to... most things. The consumption under full load is 15 watts... hence 15 watts TDP-down. It can be configured up to 25 watts under full load... hence 25 watts TDP-up. If you only supply it with 15 watts it will run at base clock all-core and boost on single or lightly-threaded tasks. If you supply it with more it will run as well as it can within the temperature, time, and power specs. Your car also produces "200 horsepower" for a brief 50RPM +/- and at all other points it produces less, EPA rated at 55-61 MPH for fuel economy... Guess what it's rated at? Your power supply is only "80%+ efficient" for a narrow band of load... Also, all companies advertise base and boost. Base is guaranteed and boost is opportunistic, hence the two ratings.
You can run a pretty sweet VM lab off these too with ESXi. Run it off a small USB or SD card and put your VMs on the SSD. I’ve got an old 4th gen i5 NUC set up that way for a few years. Maybe it’s time to upgrade!
Last year I tried NUC's from three different vendors to use in my AV system. The graphics subsystem in all of them were complete crap. An online search on the topic revealed that my experience wasn't unique. They were all returned. I'd be reluctant to give them another try. I ended up using an ordinary Dell desktop placed in a closet in the den and using a wireless keyboard and HDMI over Ethernet to feed audio and video to the AV system.
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Great review! Indeed, this would be handy for presentations and classes, which I do all the time. Love my laptop, but this small form factor would certainly lighten my load. I'm impressed with the drive, ram, and connection options.
Really good thing for college specially, specially many colleges have bad computers for computer programming so I can plug this into the school pc monitors, and when Im home I can also use an E gpu, also for 200 more you can get the nuc 8 performance one with a 30% faster i7 even tho both are old fashioned quad cores.
dkimmortal I tend to be a performance snob so probably the i7. However in a mini PC you are constrained by thermals and in reality an i5 would be fine for most tasks. Either should work fine for a hackintosh too if you wanted to try that route. So you should probably see which is a better value for your needs.
You can game on intel intergrated graphics. Admittedly you get 30-45 frames low settings, often at 720P, and some AAA is out of reach, if you aren't a gaming purist, you'd be surprised what you can do (especially with dual channel ram). Iris intel is supposed to be a bit faster than UHD, so kind interested in what it can pull off. Next gen (10th) is supposed to be twice as fast, so that's super interesting to me, as a mini enthusiast.
Used to use NUC's for a product at work and they were around like 'cheap cheatos'. Should have appropriated one as there have been many times I've thought the NUC would be perfect for various projects. And of the dozens upon dozens I've used, none have ever broken. I think smaller form factor power supplies (than the one shown in the vid) are available.
perfect think i will invest in this with a premade kit on amazon. going to go on a trip for a few months and it just is a nice size to put in a suitcase and not be as big as a laptop and you can connect to a hotel tv with hdmi........cant beat that!
All these Nucs are missing a trick. The best use for these (for me at least) would be routers, firewalls, IPS devices and other things that monitor, filter or shape network traffic. Why they don't have ones with two decent Nic ports always disappoints me.
@@JohnSmith-yl9en My mistake! I was searching for one and must have ended up on a similar device page (amazon), it is NOT a NUC. www.amazon.co.jp/Firewall-Appliance-Mikrotik-Security-Industrial/dp/B074FS5K23
Are you running a Seagate IronWolf HDD or equivalent SSD inside 24/7? I am on a budget and also considering the Synology as a Mac Mini alternative, running the Plex server. I was going to additionally purchase with an NVIDIA Shield TV, but perhaps the Shield is redundant?
I think its a great little thing, I like the idea of having a fairly capable pc connected to my monitor without the need for a huge tower setup, then again I could buy a laptop and have a similar effect.
I wanted to ask you a curiosity, for those who know more: I'm going to buy the NUC object of this review, but I would like to know if any new version will be released soon, so maybe I wait before buying. Thanks to those who will be able to help me!
Warning, don't use Crucial MX500 m.2 drives in these NUC's. There's a firmware bug where the disk activity light on the NUC will stay on. Samsung's and WD m.2 drives don't have this issue. Hopefully be fixed in future BIOS update. I put one of these tall ones, an i3, together for my parents. I put a 2.5" SATA drive in to back up to. Mum loves it. My Dad wants to replace the PC's at his small business with these too. My mum keeps showing it off to her friends and family and everyone wants one.
I'm not sure if the taller model actually cools better. I believe the CPU area is the same size on both. The shorter model just cuts out the extra 2.5" bay. I'd actually recommend getting the smaller i5 unit (NUC8i5BEK) and putting your own 2x4GB or 2x8GB RAM kit and M.2 ssd in it if you don't need the extra 2.5" storage.
I have the Intel NUC Tall i7-8559U at 2.70GHz. It is a beast. I'd love to see you do a hackintosh build. By the way if you have big hands good luck upgrading. Be patient. It's very easy to break a cable or a connector. When I first opened it up my thoughts went to Jaws "We're gonna need a bigger box."
I have the i5 fitted with 32gb ram, m.2 ssd and 2.5 ssd for storage. Little work force that can handle pretty much what you throw at it apart from gaming😊
I have this exact same setup! However, I replaced the case with a fanless Akasa [Plato X8] because the fan noise was just too loud and distracting even with power/cooling settings set way down in BIOS and Windows 10. Tried stability testing in Aida64 and the temps averaged about 77° or so on the hottest cores. The Akasa was scalding hot to the touch though ♨️♨️. Probably won't be a problem in everyday use though. May also look into hooking up a laptop cooler to it but this increases the overall size...at which point you start to lose the benefits of a so-called 'small' device 🤔
I like to play .wav files thru my desktop via an external drive, VLC, and a DAC outputting it through an optical audio output (Toslink, S/PDIF). Do any models have this feature. And I've heard these fans are loud. How will that affect things?
How functional is the mic? The speaker jack input is only for speakers and not for a headset with mic? I am thinking of buying a NUC but I teach online...
Yeah, Thunderbolt 3 opens up some pretty intense scenarios for a NUC, an i7 NUC with an external Nvidia RTX would be a gaming beast. Although, not sure how much sense that would make financially when you can just build a gaming tower for probably similar money or less.
@@cr0ft-2k I wanted a semi-portable creative machine PC that could be carried easily in my backpack with small Cintiq as the main display, since most notebooks uses terrible pen tech, an ocassionally i'l hook it with an eGPU when i'm home, hence i would love to to have more Thunderbolt ports. That's why i still prefer Mac Mini, even though the price of their 6-core variant have been skyrocketed compared to this and i could live with its soldered storage since i could have thunderbolt SSDs on it too.
Hi Lisa have you tried to connect NUC8 to an external GPU, like a Core X, or a Blackmagic eGPU (Hackintosh maybe?) I have used a Skull Canyon and they are pretty good NUC on its own.
Hey Lisa I’m waiting for your review on the iPad Pro os just about everyone else has reviewed it and so far their all saying positive things about it I hope you will review it soon because I love watching your reviews on products thanks
would this (or something similar) be good to run a home minecraft server? asking because i don't want to be running a proper gaming pc 24/7! there would be a max of 5 people playing on it!
This has thunderbolt 3 to connect to rtx 2080ti to increase its gaming performance by at least 30 times ? OK it has wow this nuc gonna be a monster now
Nice video! I'm starting to look into a mini pc and I'm reluctant to spend the money until I have a good idea on what I'll be getting. I'm more into emulation gaming and Chuwei 3:18 seem like a good choice because heat is what I'm mostly concerned about. My goal is to find a mini pc that able to run or emulate ps2 and mayne ps3 games. That's like my benchmark for zero knowledge on pc spec lol. I learned from this video that i5 is recommended and not the i7?
I can emulate some ps3 on my Asus PN61 (which has the 8565U, a 15TDP processor). At least, it can run dragons crown, and ridge racer 7 - be aware ps3 emulation is still in a pretty early state. ps2 is a piece of cake - can run with enhancements. PSP and dreamcast tend to be a bit better visually I think though, because those emulators are tight (dolphin and ppsspp). You can force Intel Extreme Tuning Utility to not check the system it's running on, and then, you can slightly undervolt the cpu in order to lower heat. Play games to test stability though, don't just use the stress testing IME. That said, I can jam it on 2.5ghz just via the power settings in windows and it tends to stay under max heat (the heat tolerance for these chips is high, and I use coretemp for if it, very rarely goes over 94). However, there is a way to improve heat performance specifically on the NUCs - akasa's fanless cases. They tend to overperform as cooling systems. I've seen the larger hardcore one keep the bean canyon (this chipset, which is more powerful than mine) at 60 under load. It's sort of like a tiny tower - you'll know it when you see it on amazon. But even the slim profile ones tend to outperform fans.
I love the design and form factor of Intel NUCs but the performance just isn't worth the price to me. In a laptop the performance you could get from it is worth it for the price but when you're buying a desktop PC the value flies out the window to me. Sure the other options that are more powerful for the price are larger but I could literally build a system with a Ryzen 5 2400G, and even get an AIO to watercool it, and it wouldn't be any larger than a PS4 Pro yet it would probably be cheaper than the NUC. Not to mention the hypothetical Ryzen build I just mentioned would have a built in power supply, more expandability, more ports, a much quieter fan, and all at just the sacrifice of form factor. If the NUC were 150-200 dollars cheaper I'd say hell yeah that's a great deal. But I just don't see them as a good option for the price. I know I'm obviously not the target market for this device but it just seems like you pay way too much of a premium for these things. I used a system similar to a NUC back in middle school to do research on and that's where I think that NUC PC's are most suitable for use. So having them at around 700-800 dollars per computer just isn't logical. Sure, big businesses could still afford them, but then they lose out on the massive profit that could be gained from schools. At the very least I think an option with a processor like the Pentium n4200 should've been available for far cheaper. The processor alone is only 100 dollars for non OEM's to purchase according to the searching I've done (even though it's a soldered processor so good luck installing it in anything lol I'm just using this as reference for the price. Also can't seem to actually find units for sale either which makes sense for a notebook processor. Pricing is still posted online though for the part) but OEM's pay literally only a few dollars per processor. So much money could be made from mass producing a cheaper NUC and selling it to schools in bulk. Targeting business so heavily is illogical in my opinion. A majority of big businesses that would normally be a target for the NUC already have either Surface products or Apple products so it's a waste of time to market to them.
NUCs are machines that most people either love them or reject them at first sight. It's all what the user's priorities are. Sure one can use a similarly priced laptop, or if buying the parts alone you can get more PC for the money. But there's nothing quite as small. Intel engineered it so that no mobo manufacturer can just stuff a laptop chip in make it as small. If you're in a tiny apartment, sometimes space is more expensive than money. And if you don't game, the Intel NUC suddenly starts to look compelling.... YMMV.
I've often wondered how this would do as a streaming machine. Ours at church getting long in the tooth, will need to be replaced soon. Is graphics good enough to put a decent 720 or 1080 stream on internet? Anyone have constructive thoughts on this matter?
theloniousMac I’ve got an NUC 5 hackintosh and it works like a dream. Rehabman basically got the the installer up and I haven’t had to do anything special in about 2 years
@@JoelChu Sure. I've created an EFI folder which includes everything the i5 version needs (including SD-Card reader). You can have a copy of my folder if you like ?
With the NUC history of system freezes, she needed to run a cpu intensive program and see if it runs without freezing for more then a week. If she did her homework on the Intel NUC she would have done so. I have the NUC7i7BNH, using as a IP camera server and if I get 3 days before freezing, its party time.
What FPS Online Games 2020 aside of PUBG Can be install in Intel NUC please?how many FPS Online Games?how much the intel Intel NUC?where to buy in the Philippines?sorry..please understand..thank you🙂🙂🙂🙂
I'd watch Lisa just to see the latest t-shirt. Of course, we know that Lisa will always give us a thorough, objective review that sets the standard for everyone else.
Yup. Whenever I look at buying a new Laptop, this is one of the first Channels I search for it on. Always accurate reviews.
The i5 model also has 4 cores 8 threads and performs just as well as the i7 version. I own the i5.
I was just doing some research on these (and the hades canyon ones), and was like "wonder if Lisa has a video on them yet", I come look at "uploaded 19 hours ago". Talk about excellent timing! :D
@ulhurusurf club I don't think we'll be seeing a Coffee Lake version for probably another 1.5-2 years or so. On one hand I'd also love one of those, but I don't think I want to wait quite that long ...
These are actually great for homelab use. Great way to have an ESXi/vCenter cluster without having lots of big loud servers everywhere.
5:07 - The taller model provides space to mount a 2.5" drive internally. There should be no difference between the two heights from a cooling perspective since the CPU is on the top of the NUC and is cooled using the same cooling fan for both models.
I've got the i5, 8GB, 256GB NVME and a 7200 rpm HDD linked to a Razer Core X with a rx580. Running far cry 5 for hours it does get a little hot and noisy but I love this combo has replaced my desktop PC and with the NUC on top fits in an IKEA shelf! My Mac mini with 32GB linked to HP Omen with rx580 and 1TB SSD cost a lot more but both together take up less space then old desktop. One for work and one for play/Linux. I love small form factor computers and can take either away fro very decent work performance without eGPU easily.
I use this exact model, with 16GB RAM and a 500GB PCIe SSD, as my daily office PC and it is fantastic. Enough threads to handle virtually all workloads, more power graphics than your average iGPU, super low power consumption and fits on the back of my monitor's VESA mount.
...Always a treat to be notified of a new review!
I have the i3 model and it's quick.I don't game just browsing ,microsoft office use mainly.I love it
These are great for anything that doesn't need a GPU.
Why not use an external GPU when u want serious gaming (does it have a 2nd Wifi slot "mPCIe" or thunderbolt or optical?). I'd like to see this NUC with an ALL WIRELESS setup: GeChic 15" or 16" touch display w/ wireless fob, and wireless I/O devices. Definitely a strap-on powerpack UPS/mains replacement
@@xmaverickhunterkx I own the i5 version since about January and use it as a Plex media server (4TB HDD attached via USB) and occasional emulation machine for retro gaming (Launchbox installed on an internal 1tb ssd). This little machine is SO amazing and is indeed quiet. In fact, it is the perfect first computer for a child.
@Harmonic Convergence I'm running Win10. I got a working license for under 20 CAD from website called g2deal or something like that. The trick, as I learned, is to use it very fast after purchasing.
@@georgepitaru wow great info. I'm planning to purchase the i5 and I wanna hook it up to my old CRT TV. It have the composite converter. I able to play Ps4 games on it because of the converter.
The only question I have is, will this mini pc HDMI work the same way for my old TV, just as the Ps4 via HDMI connection?
Makes a great Linux box. The 655 graphics will even give decent frame rates for slightly older games, and especially esports at 1080p. The i5 is the sweet spot IMO, 8 threads and will run a tad cooler than the i7.
I've got the NUC8i5BEH version. It does hiccup on initial heavy page loads in Chrome running on openSUSE LEAP 15.0 .... but rest of the time it is perfectly fine. Plays YT, Vimeo etc. If you need multi-monitor setup just be mindful ... connect 1 HDMI, and any OTHER connector ... I've got a Thunderbolt3 dock/hub ... which has HDMI and VGA ... I can't hookup 2 HDMIs ... but it works with 1 VGA + 1 HDMI .... I haven't figured it out why that is the case yet ... scratching my head why ...
NUCs are perfect corporate productivity workstations, we use some for that, especially if you have a way to distribute OS images to them more or less automatically instead of having to install Windows manually. They can handle dual screens (if you choose the right variant) and they come with VESA mounts so you can just bolt them to the back of a screen if the screen isn't already using VESA. Obviously also great for home users who don't need gaming capability. For IT staff, the ability to just grab a monitor with the PC on it and boom, you're carrying the entire workstation, is awesome. No more schlepping needlessly large computers around.
You very often show me things I would not have known existed without you. This is one more example, thanx, Lisa.
I use one of these as a home media server, it runs Plex for media serving and phone backup, Resilio Sync for file distribution and backup and an FTP server for remote access. I love this little guy :D If mine ever dies, I'll get another one fo-sho!
The new Raspberry Pi 4 is powerful enough to do those things too I suspect, for $50. Sure, Linux requires a tad bit more involvement to get it going but I have a Pi 3 serving music files and doing other "housekeeping" tasks. Works great.
@@cr0ft-2k I have tried with a Raspberry Pi (not the 4th), but in the end it wasn't powerful enough for the multiple transcoding needed. In the end the NUC was the best option.
@@KentSpain85 Yeah, my setup doesn't require that, it's purely for music. The Pi 4 is noticeably more powerful though.
If amd make barbone pc like that and used new ryzen mobile prosessor I think would be great, the have power in vega 10.
Try searching for Asrock desk mini A300 it's available in some store at Indonesia already
@@enterthehyuver4747 really ? The warranty by Astrindo (Official) or other distributor (Not official) ? ASRock desk mini A300 that's an old stuff aren't they ?
Cek aja di toko2 tokped, saya sudah liat banyak yang jual, ga jelas juga sih barang untuk distribusi indo atau bm dari malaysia, tapi pastinya dah ada, mau dibilang barang lama juga produknya umurnya belum setengah tahun dan baru masuk disini sekitar bulan lalu.
@@enterthehyuver4747 oke terima kasih buat infonya mas 🙏
@@SuperYouKey No it isn't
Fabulous, concise, objective and informative review. I really like your presentation style. After watching, I spent my pennies on a NUC8
i think they need to reconsider their wattage measure. 15w can go to 25w, 45w will hit 100w if temps permit.
all companies advertise boost clock, but not all systems can handle it, and some are far worse than others
My 8565U advertises a base speed of 1.9. I can jam it on 2.5ghz all cores, no worries without hitting max temps, and also extend the boost time. Occasionally it thermal throttles but only under serious load. This is even more the case if I undervolt it.
IDK if this is because it has proper cooling versus say, a laptop, but it seems to well exceed the label specs. That said, I tend to run it on an eco mode most of the time, because only games and some other stuff actually needs that power.
You need to revisit your understanding of how it's measured and advertised and compare it to... most things.
The consumption under full load is 15 watts... hence 15 watts TDP-down.
It can be configured up to 25 watts under full load... hence 25 watts TDP-up.
If you only supply it with 15 watts it will run at base clock all-core and boost on single or lightly-threaded tasks.
If you supply it with more it will run as well as it can within the temperature, time, and power specs.
Your car also produces "200 horsepower" for a brief 50RPM +/- and at all other points it produces less, EPA rated at 55-61 MPH for fuel economy... Guess what it's rated at?
Your power supply is only "80%+ efficient" for a narrow band of load...
Also, all companies advertise base and boost. Base is guaranteed and boost is opportunistic, hence the two ratings.
You can run a pretty sweet VM lab off these too with ESXi. Run it off a small USB or SD card and put your VMs on the SSD. I’ve got an old 4th gen i5 NUC set up that way for a few years. Maybe it’s time to upgrade!
I’m gonna guess there’s not much cooling going on to run a VM off this PC. However, if you do try it, lemme know if it works smoothly !
Lol loved the shirt. And also the review. Everything Lisa related is always top notch. My favorite reviewer. Always.
Always enjoy your videos. Excellent communication and very informative.
Last year I tried NUC's from three different vendors to use in my AV system. The graphics subsystem in all of them were complete crap. An online search on the topic revealed that my experience wasn't unique. They were all returned. I'd be reluctant to give them another try. I ended up using an ordinary Dell desktop placed in a closet in the den and using a wireless keyboard and HDMI over Ethernet to feed audio and video to the AV system.
Great review! Indeed, this would be handy for presentations and classes, which I do all the time. Love my laptop, but this small form factor would certainly lighten my load. I'm impressed with the drive, ram, and connection options.
Really good thing for college specially, specially many colleges have bad computers for computer programming so I can plug this into the school pc monitors, and when Im home I can also use an E gpu, also for 200 more you can get the nuc 8 performance one with a 30% faster i7 even tho both are old fashioned quad cores.
I learned more here than on videos twice the length
bet she’s like the coolest grandma ever, i have no choice but to stan
Loving that tshirt. Made me laugh out loud. Great review.
I would love to see a hacintosh video on this guy if it works out. Also as many have already said - great t-shirt as usual.
Which model would u go for? The 8259u or the 8559u
dkimmortal I tend to be a performance snob so probably the i7. However in a mini PC you are constrained by thermals and in reality an i5 would be fine for most tasks. Either should work fine for a hackintosh too if you wanted to try that route. So you should probably see which is a better value for your needs.
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You can game on intel intergrated graphics. Admittedly you get 30-45 frames low settings, often at 720P, and some AAA is out of reach, if you aren't a gaming purist, you'd be surprised what you can do (especially with dual channel ram).
Iris intel is supposed to be a bit faster than UHD, so kind interested in what it can pull off. Next gen (10th) is supposed to be twice as fast, so that's super interesting to me, as a mini enthusiast.
Keep up the good work Lisa!
Lisa, you are a gem.
Used to use NUC's for a product at work and they were around like 'cheap cheatos'. Should have appropriated one as there have been many times I've thought the NUC would be perfect for various projects. And of the dozens upon dozens I've used, none have ever broken. I think smaller form factor power supplies (than the one shown in the vid) are available.
perfect think i will invest in this with a premade kit on amazon. going to go on a trip for a few months and it just is a nice size to put in a suitcase and not be as big as a laptop and you can connect to a hotel tv with hdmi........cant beat that!
All these Nucs are missing a trick. The best use for these (for me at least) would be routers, firewalls, IPS devices and other things that monitor, filter or shape network traffic. Why they don't have ones with two decent Nic ports always disappoints me.
There's a 4 port nuc available.
@@vladisergeiev7278 Which?
@@JohnSmith-yl9en My mistake! I was searching for one and must have ended up on a similar device page (amazon), it is NOT a NUC. www.amazon.co.jp/Firewall-Appliance-Mikrotik-Security-Industrial/dp/B074FS5K23
Because you can buy a dirt-cheap used $75 HP thin client like a T640 and run things like Pihole on that.
Thank you for this review, it was very helpful :)
I've got a 7th gen i3 nuc. Man these little guys make wonderful small servers.
Are you running a Seagate IronWolf HDD or equivalent SSD inside 24/7? I am on a budget and also considering the Synology as a Mac Mini alternative, running the Plex server.
I was going to additionally purchase with an NVIDIA Shield TV, but perhaps the Shield is redundant?
I think its a great little thing, I like the idea of having a fairly capable pc connected to my monitor without the need for a huge tower setup, then again I could buy a laptop and have a similar effect.
Nice review, short and informative
I wanted to ask you a curiosity, for those who know more: I'm going to buy the NUC object of this review, but I would like to know if any new version will be released soon, so maybe I wait before buying. Thanks to those who will be able to help me!
This is really cool! Love it! Your shirt is hilarious, too, as always! lol.
Warning, don't use Crucial MX500 m.2 drives in these NUC's. There's a firmware bug where the disk activity light on the NUC will stay on. Samsung's and WD m.2 drives don't have this issue. Hopefully be fixed in future BIOS update.
I put one of these tall ones, an i3, together for my parents. I put a 2.5" SATA drive in to back up to. Mum loves it. My Dad wants to replace the PC's at his small business with these too. My mum keeps showing it off to her friends and family and everyone wants one.
I'm not sure if the taller model actually cools better. I believe the CPU area is the same size on both. The shorter model just cuts out the extra 2.5" bay.
I'd actually recommend getting the smaller i5 unit (NUC8i5BEK) and putting your own 2x4GB or 2x8GB RAM kit and M.2 ssd in it if you don't need the extra 2.5" storage.
This form factor seems perfect for a home server of all kinds.
I have the Intel NUC Tall i7-8559U at 2.70GHz. It is a beast. I'd love to see you do a hackintosh build. By the way if you have big hands good luck upgrading. Be patient. It's very easy to break a cable or a connector. When I first opened it up my thoughts went to Jaws "We're gonna need a bigger box."
How good is it if you want to play a few games
I have the i5 fitted with 32gb ram, m.2 ssd and 2.5 ssd for storage. Little work force that can handle pretty much what you throw at it apart from gaming😊
Manuel Oranga I have the previous generation i5 and game with a Razer Core X 🤙🏼
@@junbi1982 I think your right, I tested that game called call of duty and it works, I'm just not a gaming person though😉
This one vid got you a sub. Great job.
The perfect Linux PC.
Certainly is - I've been running OpenSUSE on my i5 model since January and works perfectly.
they're so cute aren't they. excellent review!
What a beautiful system!
I have this exact same setup! However, I replaced the case with a fanless Akasa [Plato X8] because the fan noise was just too loud and distracting even with power/cooling settings set way down in BIOS and Windows 10. Tried stability testing in Aida64 and the temps averaged about 77° or so on the hottest cores. The Akasa was scalding hot to the touch though ♨️♨️.
Probably won't be a problem in everyday use though. May also look into hooking up a laptop cooler to it but this increases the overall size...at which point you start to lose the benefits of a so-called 'small' device 🤔
Thanks...this is the most comprehensive review of the Intel Nuc yet. Can you do a review of the hades canyon too?
This is very typical of Lisa's reviews. On point, no fluff... and a cool shirt.
would love to see external GPU test
I really enjoyed your videos
Great video! Very cool! Thank you!
Simple and great review nice...
Wow that's actually very nice.
This is good for on-board computing in robotics projects.
Ooooooh this looks like my next PC
I like to play .wav files thru my desktop via an external drive, VLC, and a DAC outputting it through an optical audio output (Toslink, S/PDIF). Do any models have this feature. And I've heard these fans are loud. How will that affect things?
A PC review! Thanks!
How functional is the mic? The speaker jack input is only for speakers and not for a headset with mic? I am thinking of buying a NUC but I teach online...
Nice PC! Hook up to an eGPU and you have quite a capable mini PC 👍
Yeah, Thunderbolt 3 opens up some pretty intense scenarios for a NUC, an i7 NUC with an external Nvidia RTX would be a gaming beast. Although, not sure how much sense that would make financially when you can just build a gaming tower for probably similar money or less.
@@cr0ft-2k yeah, true. I guess if space was an issue .
@@cr0ft-2k I wanted a semi-portable creative machine PC that could be carried easily in my backpack with small Cintiq as the main display, since most notebooks uses terrible pen tech, an ocassionally i'l hook it with an eGPU when i'm home, hence i would love to to have more Thunderbolt ports. That's why i still prefer Mac Mini, even though the price of their 6-core variant have been skyrocketed compared to this and i could live with its soldered storage since i could have thunderbolt SSDs on it too.
Hi Lisa have you tried to connect NUC8 to an external GPU, like a Core X, or a Blackmagic eGPU (Hackintosh maybe?) I have used a Skull Canyon and they are pretty good NUC on its own.
I remember about 20 years ago there was a uk pc manufacturer called Tiny computers though I assume they’re completely unrelated
She got me when she called the power brick a charger.... lol
You are the best! That t-shirt is a classic.😂
I got one of these set up for my bare-metal base for my CIsco VIRL lab setup. Ain't bad at all...
Btw..this model can run MacOs aswell. with a little tweaking of course..
Hey Lisa I’m waiting for your review on the iPad Pro os just about everyone else has reviewed it and so far their all saying positive things about it I hope you will review it soon because I love watching your reviews on products thanks
Seems wrong to say AC outlet is required. Why wouldn't I be able to run this off a fused 12/24V DC source?
Great review
would this (or something similar) be good to run a home minecraft server? asking because i don't want to be running a proper gaming pc 24/7! there would be a max of 5 people playing on it!
Wonder if it can play 4K HDR
I am looking for the same answer.
@@karar302 Yes it can.
www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/boards-kits/nuc/nuc8i5bek-nuc8i5beh-brief.html?wapkw=nuc8
If you are a business IT consultant, this should be the only PC you are selling these days.
this thing rocks i got the i3 works just as good as a older i7 dell but the cost 500 bucks
Mine too
This has thunderbolt 3 to connect to rtx 2080ti to increase its gaming performance by at least 30 times ? OK it has wow this nuc gonna be a monster now
Nice video! I'm starting to look into a mini pc and I'm reluctant to spend the money until I have a good idea on what I'll be getting. I'm more into emulation gaming and Chuwei 3:18 seem like a good choice because heat is what I'm mostly concerned about.
My goal is to find a mini pc that able to run or emulate ps2 and mayne ps3 games. That's like my benchmark for zero knowledge on pc spec lol. I learned from this video that i5 is recommended and not the i7?
I can emulate some ps3 on my Asus PN61 (which has the 8565U, a 15TDP processor). At least, it can run dragons crown, and ridge racer 7 - be aware ps3 emulation is still in a pretty early state. ps2 is a piece of cake - can run with enhancements. PSP and dreamcast tend to be a bit better visually I think though, because those emulators are tight (dolphin and ppsspp).
You can force Intel Extreme Tuning Utility to not check the system it's running on, and then, you can slightly undervolt the cpu in order to lower heat. Play games to test stability though, don't just use the stress testing IME. That said, I can jam it on 2.5ghz just via the power settings in windows and it tends to stay under max heat (the heat tolerance for these chips is high, and I use coretemp for if it, very rarely goes over 94).
However, there is a way to improve heat performance specifically on the NUCs - akasa's fanless cases. They tend to overperform as cooling systems. I've seen the larger hardcore one keep the bean canyon (this chipset, which is more powerful than mine) at 60 under load. It's sort of like a tiny tower - you'll know it when you see it on amazon. But even the slim profile ones tend to outperform fans.
@@irisdogma8174 cheers mate for your keen insight 🍹
The K version (instead of the H one) is even more compact. Of course, no sata hard-drive
Can you connect it to an lg ultra fine display from Apple ? Ie video output through thunderbolt 3 usb c ?
I love the design and form factor of Intel NUCs but the performance just isn't worth the price to me. In a laptop the performance you could get from it is worth it for the price but when you're buying a desktop PC the value flies out the window to me. Sure the other options that are more powerful for the price are larger but I could literally build a system with a Ryzen 5 2400G, and even get an AIO to watercool it, and it wouldn't be any larger than a PS4 Pro yet it would probably be cheaper than the NUC. Not to mention the hypothetical Ryzen build I just mentioned would have a built in power supply, more expandability, more ports, a much quieter fan, and all at just the sacrifice of form factor. If the NUC were 150-200 dollars cheaper I'd say hell yeah that's a great deal. But I just don't see them as a good option for the price. I know I'm obviously not the target market for this device but it just seems like you pay way too much of a premium for these things.
I used a system similar to a NUC back in middle school to do research on and that's where I think that NUC PC's are most suitable for use. So having them at around 700-800 dollars per computer just isn't logical. Sure, big businesses could still afford them, but then they lose out on the massive profit that could be gained from schools. At the very least I think an option with a processor like the Pentium n4200 should've been available for far cheaper. The processor alone is only 100 dollars for non OEM's to purchase according to the searching I've done (even though it's a soldered processor so good luck installing it in anything lol I'm just using this as reference for the price. Also can't seem to actually find units for sale either which makes sense for a notebook processor. Pricing is still posted online though for the part) but OEM's pay literally only a few dollars per processor. So much money could be made from mass producing a cheaper NUC and selling it to schools in bulk. Targeting business so heavily is illogical in my opinion. A majority of big businesses that would normally be a target for the NUC already have either Surface products or Apple products so it's a waste of time to market to them.
NUCs are machines that most people either love them or reject them at first sight. It's all what the user's priorities are. Sure one can use a similarly priced laptop, or if buying the parts alone you can get more PC for the money. But there's nothing quite as small. Intel engineered it so that no mobo manufacturer can just stuff a laptop chip in make it as small. If you're in a tiny apartment, sometimes space is more expensive than money. And if you don't game, the Intel NUC suddenly starts to look compelling.... YMMV.
Looking forward to know if it can run MacOS
You just want to have fun or you need the Iris graphics? The hexacore Mac Mini seems like a better path to MacOS based computation.
Quite a few hackintosh builds with various NUCs. Search youtube for NUC hackintosh.
I am waiting for one of them with a dedicate gpu.
I've often wondered how this would do as a streaming machine. Ours at church getting long in the tooth, will need to be replaced soon. Is graphics good enough to put a decent 720 or 1080 stream on internet? Anyone have constructive thoughts on this matter?
Where's the video about the t-shirt?
Wonder how easy it will be to try to hakintosh it
Hackintosh HERE I COME.
theloniousMac I’ve got an NUC 5 hackintosh and it works like a dream. Rehabman basically got the the installer up and I haven’t had to do anything special in about 2 years
@@xerotolerant Im running Mojave on the i5 version of this nuc with 16Gb ram and Nvme SSD. Runs like a charm.
@@xerotolerant @Tiqo can you share your install guide? appreciate it
Joel Chu google ‘rehabman hackintosh guide intel nuc’ the guide is on tonymacx86
@@JoelChu Sure. I've created an EFI folder which includes everything the i5 version needs (including SD-Card reader). You can have a copy of my folder if you like ?
Are the AC adapter and Wi-Fi antenna included or to be purchased separately?
With the NUC history of system freezes, she needed to run a cpu intensive program and see if it runs without freezing for more then a week. If she did her homework on the Intel NUC she would have done so. I have the NUC7i7BNH, using as a IP camera server and if I get 3 days before freezing, its party time.
I have one, and it’s magic.
Im kinda new to this tech stuff, but i wanna know tho, can this tiny pc connect to portable monitor/screen and used it as usual??
Will it run counter strike at 1080p 144fps? Also would this machine be capable for solidworks??
Can I use 2666Mhz DDR4 sodimm ram instead of 2400Mhz in NUC i3?
Can this nuc be solely powered via thunderbolt (ie. connected to a thunderbolt 3 monitor which obviously is has a power unit attached separately)?.
No
32 Gbytes RAM, 1-2 TB SSD, 4TB spinning disk, Linux, DaVinci Resolve, glue to back of TV.
You read my mind. With a personal cloud you don't need that much storage. As for Linux I have to give it a try again.
Do you think you'll be able to review a latitude 7400 non 2-in1?
What FPS Online Games 2020 aside of PUBG Can be install in Intel NUC please?how many FPS Online Games?how much the intel Intel NUC?where to buy in the Philippines?sorry..please understand..thank you🙂🙂🙂🙂
Would you use this a primary 24/7 Plex server , is it capable of streaming multiple streams at same time?
Can I use a KMV to share with a desktop?
Love the shirt!
How about another skull canyon refresh
Please do a video if your able to hackintosh it. Thx
Thumbs up for the shirt....and excellent content.