An upcycled Mazda MX-5 (and Ant Anstead) created this brand new classic - Tipo 184 review

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  • @TVtwarn
    @TVtwarn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    I’d love either a supercharged or itb converted car ! And that’s coming from someone with a 280bhp turbo mk1 mx5
    That gear linkage is absolutely beautiful !
    Brilliant use for ‘too far gone’ mk2 cars

    • @hobbitman27
      @hobbitman27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      My first thought was ITBs too, maybe with some race cams. I bet that would fly.

    • @TVtwarn
      @TVtwarn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hobbitman27 my preference would be itbs more than supercharger . Just feels right . Agree - Some bumpy cams and bodies would be cool :)

    • @CarBore
      @CarBore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ITBs would be awesome on one of these. Need to get them on my own mx5 first 😂

    • @mtskull59
      @mtskull59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Fantastic and I want one!
      A word of warning though: U.K. construction & use regulations state: “every vehicle to which this regulation applies shall be equipped with wings or other similar fittings to catch, so far as practicable, mud or water thrown up by the rotation of its wheels or tracks”.
      The MOT is a test of specific items, not of general compliance with the C&U regs, therefore the Tipo can pass an MOT without any wings or mudguards (the presence of which isn’t a testable item) yet it is still an offence to use it the road without them.

    • @rogerandlyndabeall3840
      @rogerandlyndabeall3840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The gear linkage will take off your kneecaps in a small accident. I have a lotus 7 replica. it is safer.

  • @FastNBulbous
    @FastNBulbous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    32 minutes ago I had no idea this existed. And now I don’t know how I can continue to live without it.

  • @andystokes8702
    @andystokes8702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I built a couple of kit cars about 35 years ago. I can assure you that the sense of achievement you get the first day that you drive a car that you have put together yourself is like no other. I would certainly build this one in a heartbeat given the right circumstances.

    • @CyberCurtainTwitcher
      @CyberCurtainTwitcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think the most exhilarating thing for me was turning that key and it actually starting! All those months rebuilding the engine, fumbling around with a mass of wiring harness, fuel lines, cooling system etc etc and you think to yourself "I must have overlooked something, it can't start first time" and then it does! My Dad was so proud of my achievement (may he rest in peace).

    • @paulhelman2376
      @paulhelman2376 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had a similar experience but ultimately relatively dangerous and little resale value.

    • @iammaximus614
      @iammaximus614 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulhelman2376
      anything that burns, smokes & makes noise is any boys dream from the start

  • @Shro0mStar
    @Shro0mStar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    This was fantastic! such a beautifully executed recreation that's not half a million dollars/pounds.

    • @operationscomputer1478
      @operationscomputer1478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the alfa 159 at alfa musico storico is insured for more than 25 million euro when it leaves the museum.

    • @ronmatthews1738
      @ronmatthews1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not a recreation, it's a kit car that looks like an Alfa from a distance. Like having a Countach body on a VW chassis. Enjoy it if that's your thing, but I'd rather have the honesty of the MX5.

  • @barnestim
    @barnestim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    The reason MX5s are relatively expensive in Australia and New Zealand is that they don't rust on our roads (no snow = no salted roads). So NA and NB MX5s are still viable cars, even with high kms and age (My 1994 NA8 has 250000kms with a big supercharger and is still going strong :)

    • @peterbarber7613
      @peterbarber7613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tim Barnes. you are lucky that you dont go to the snow fields in Australia with it

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peterbarber7613 I've been overseas for a while, but since when have the roads up Buller, Buffalo, Hotham, Falls or wherever you go north of the Murray been salted? Fit chains when signed, yeah?

    • @Ben-Rogue
      @Ben-Rogue ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a real shame they're so expensive here now, as I wish I could afford another some day. But I guess it keeps them out of the hands of teenagers who just want something cheap to destroy for a bit of fun, like is happening with Falcons these days.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon ปีที่แล้ว

      didnt realis they had gone up in value. ny monocco edition NB is rust free cos brought it to spain 20 years ago

  • @hawaiisteve932
    @hawaiisteve932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    That is quite brilliant , I love the concept , it works perfectly , I did a 27 T track roadster out here using a crashed 1980 Alfa Romeo 2000 Spider , my son & I built it , it had E type hubs with 16" XK140 wire wheels , very similar concept , I even built a twin Weber manifold . Keep this kind of content coming it is very inspirational .

  • @JMc.D
    @JMc.D 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I was very excited when Ant did the show. Building my own car is a bucket list item for me and this is very high on the list. When you think of it £20k is not a lot for what you get out of it. Look at the money people spend on, to be honest, not very big boats. A great achievement to bring it to the market. I’ll definitely wait to see what other body styles become available. And if they fit the same mounting points, why not drive a silver arrow one week, an auto union the next!

  • @ragemydream
    @ragemydream 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Great work by Darren. We need more people like him to keep the legacy of cars alive by using smart thinking. Must be amazing driving a classic style vintage car but with the reliability from a japanaese MX-5

  • @Jimmy_Broadbent
    @Jimmy_Broadbent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Those NB dials actually don't look *too* out of place.
    Proper bit of creative engineering this.

    • @Excludos
      @Excludos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So..when are you buying one? If I had the money I'd be on the phone already

    • @fingmoron
      @fingmoron 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jimmer likes late brake show very nice... now buy one already ;)

  • @benpenagonzales6014
    @benpenagonzales6014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    What fun! Would love to see a race series for these. Wishing Dowsett the best. And maybe mazda would support him? The US west coast Mazda are good guys, 👍

    • @JAY61ish
      @JAY61ish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes .. like the legends series but full size old style cars..

  • @TheDevilVaper
    @TheDevilVaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's absolutely amazing to see you driving around the village I grew up in, as well as driving past my old house where you pointed out the broken MX5 😆 (that's my mates car)
    I also had the pleasure of helping Ant and the Dowsetts team with the original Tipo charity car which was awesome to be a part of.

  • @beauthestdane
    @beauthestdane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love the concept. Still driving my 1.6L 1993 NA Miata that I bought new, almost 200k miles on it now. The durability of the drivetrain is truly excellent, wish I could say the same about the body and rust...

    • @georgkohlhas8131
      @georgkohlhas8131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I guess the rust is quite durable as well 😎

    • @beauthestdane
      @beauthestdane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgkohlhas8131 It is certainly becoming plentiful.

    • @lynndonharnell422
      @lynndonharnell422 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except for the 1.6 short nose issue

    • @beauthestdane
      @beauthestdane 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lynndonharnell422 Yeah, not an issue for me, but I have heard of the issues.

  • @brunoorlandi1773
    @brunoorlandi1773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tomorrow the kit of one of my clients arrives in my workshop, then the assembly begins, The seat arrived last Friday and is of excellent quality.

  • @HTMLEXP
    @HTMLEXP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    This is also a very environmentally sound approach too! Rather than a scrap vehicle being thrown away, it gets to live again a new vehicle. The new vehicle doesn't require so much new resources.

    • @benpenagonzales6014
      @benpenagonzales6014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm doing the climate impact project for over £10 billion of investments. Ie: I've done some homework! I think it's all about our demand for energy so broadly I agree 👍. Not sure they'll see loadsa action in the UK weather but other hobbies I'm sure emmit worse

    • @dashcam2417
      @dashcam2417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benpenagonzales6014 The UK are sacrificing themselves for the sake of climate ... no Sheffield steel ,,but happily buy steel from coal fired China .
      No major car companies, but buy German cars built with Russian oil .
      No new nuclear power stations, but by electricity from France with more nuclear stations than the rest of Europe .
      We are building solar farms in an generally non sunny country and wind farms in a generally non windy country .
      This from a country which are still expecting the arrival of Acid Rain !!!!

    • @oxcart4172
      @oxcart4172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it? It's still pumping out CO2!

    • @dashcam2417
      @dashcam2417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oxcart4172 just like every country around the world but less amounts ...
      UK are 17th on the world table for co2 pollution

    • @Zeem4
      @Zeem4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@oxcart4172 Engine/gearbox/suspension component factories create a lot of emissions, so re-using a perfectly good drivetrain from a scrap car prevents those emissions from being created.

  • @71Giggles
    @71Giggles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You had a lovely drive around East Herts - Standon, Bishops Stortford and the slippery Barwick Ford. Great car

  • @Halfwaythere_
    @Halfwaythere_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I wasn't expecting a Miata to be turned into something like this which is pretty damn cool .and it sounds great

    • @MrScotty5877304
      @MrScotty5877304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't get why Mazda chose to call it a Miata in the states, its a small sports car in Europe in the states it must look really tiny. Then they go and give it a name like Miata atleast MX5 sounds a but more masculine and sporty lol

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrScotty5877304 Mazda didn't know that Americans don't appreciate feminine things until they did their market research for the MK4. Looks like they prefer being inside something masculine lol.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrScotty5877304 In the states we like our cars to have names. Too many cars with confusing number-letter combos and we get lost. RX7 MX5 M5 XJ12 what is this, an exam??? 🤣

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They've been turning them into replica Lotus 7s for decades (thanks for that, Ron Chapman!), but this thing is FAR more nuts...and I love it.
      It's seriously even crazier than what Flyin' Miata has been doing to them for years.

    • @throwback19841
      @throwback19841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ATS599 yeah and finding people who want to be a passenger in an Exocet is hard enough so why bother with the second seat lol

  • @50gary
    @50gary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One example of perfection. Perfect in that it's truly affordable and truly doable for an average good mechanic. Nothing else feels like an open wheeled single seater. I approve.

  • @phenomanII
    @phenomanII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love anything that looks old but has more reliable running gear that is more likely to be kept on the road.
    The fact that it was possible to do with even budget builders in mind and with a decent safety rating is awesome.

  • @arronlunn308
    @arronlunn308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just love the idea of 4 or 5 of these in different colours/bodies driving through the peak district on a summer sunday

  • @michaelgillett5477
    @michaelgillett5477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Yes yes yes I work on the original stuff but I’m very tempted to have one of these for myself I can’t afford original stuff nice.
    Michael

  • @trevorrandall6989
    @trevorrandall6989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, I would like to own one and yes, I would like to build one. The fact you couldn't take your friends out in it would be a huge bonus. Beautifully engineered.

  • @gerryjamesedwards1227
    @gerryjamesedwards1227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a fantastic idea! It's just a stroke of genius.... or rather several strokes. Starting with a car that would otherwise probably be scrapped is the icing on the cake. Hats off to Darren and his crew.

    • @michaelschneider-
      @michaelschneider- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Gary James Edwards .. +1 Mensa to the power of ten.

  • @ninja12lawbreaker
    @ninja12lawbreaker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a brilliant idea. I love British engineering. I hope this guy becomes very successful coz he deserves it. Its a work of art

  • @whitford0
    @whitford0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I’ve got a well sorted turbo track mx5, and can confirm if I wasn’t so attached to the one I’ve got I’d swap it in an instant. Ill be building one of these in the next few years for sure.

  • @Ukuleleal
    @Ukuleleal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is amazing. So glad there are people like Darren Collins in this world.

  • @mikadavies660
    @mikadavies660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love the idea of a mundane MX5 looking so good, instead of just being an MOT failure and being scrapped.

  • @glennnel3570
    @glennnel3570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant car, brilliant idea, brilliant video - Um, just brilliant. Well done everyone.
    I have owned two examples of the first gen' MX-5 and they drive SO well. Small engine, BIG fun. As a mechanical donor, it just makes sense.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon ปีที่แล้ว

      funnily enough ive never really got on with mine in a handling sense. If I get out of my 2.8 bmw and into the mazda i feel im gonna spin it at every roundabout

  • @davemonday5381
    @davemonday5381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic. I really like the concept of classic looks and up to date performance brake’s and reliability. If that was a 1960s style replica race car. I’d be banging on his workshop door. Seeing that coming down the road would make me smile more than any super car. Just brilliant.

  • @danielprivate7442
    @danielprivate7442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    16:28 I love it....he laser cuts "ECU" into the tray he mounts the ECU in. Nice touch.

  • @georgedaville4662
    @georgedaville4662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Absolutely brilliant video Jonny, great to see a guy who is giving us an amazing automotive experience for very little money. The detailing and engineering is exquisite. I love the exhaust manifold with the 8 branch manifold with 4 as blanks. The gear change is a work of art. Another one for the Lottery bucket list. You looked like a kid in a toy shop driving it, amazing you didn’t meet any tractors down the country lanes 😂😎👍🇬🇧

    • @william-131
      @william-131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The two things I do not like are the fake exhaust manifold. Several 4 cilinder GP cars existed at the time so why a fake 8 branch manifold? Second thing is minor but I would like to see a taller rear wheel like basically all GP cars had and still have. For the rest, great car and a great movie!

    • @adrianbotez6832
      @adrianbotez6832 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@william-131this is what exactly I have in mind. I’ve spec a kit with 18” rims and I will install a 6 cylinder in line engine, aluminum block, carbureted N52 BMW. . With 6 exhaust pipes, nothing fake.

  • @kenreeve6549
    @kenreeve6549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having built Hot Rods and Customs all my adult life this is a breath of fresh air for the normal working man 10/10 Brilliant concept well done

  • @schlippery1
    @schlippery1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love it!!!! and believe it or not I thought about getting an old chassis from a sporty little car and rebuilding a body sporty and fun as this, about thirty years ago, but that was just a pipe dream, as I sailed about the oceans on an old boat... This is fantastic and I would love to build one of these YES, to answer your question... The car, the designer, the workshop, the video all smacks of CLASS!!!

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So very impressed with everything Mr Dowsett has done to design and build these cars 👍
    Some aftermarket wishbones would look fantastic and lose even more weight 👍

  • @bruhbbawallace
    @bruhbbawallace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i absolutely have to get one of these. i live in a very rural part of the US where most of the roads are akin to the nordschleife, i can hardly imagine how fun this would be.

  • @rv9990
    @rv9990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is beautiful. The proportions are so good as well!
    Would rather use a Z3/Z4 for this. Because 6 cilinder. And ITB is a must!

  • @jackwilliams5483
    @jackwilliams5483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve never wanted to buy something so much in my life. Love the idea of making it a one of one by making it what I would want

  • @cliqboom1088
    @cliqboom1088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great engineering to bring an old car back to life with all new styling. Love it.

  • @EduardoBianchi-t7d
    @EduardoBianchi-t7d ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful… it was about time that someone showed up with the brains to build a fantastic machine, love it !!!

  • @Valentijnzz
    @Valentijnzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Amazing production quality johny. Big up to you and team

  • @foesfly3047
    @foesfly3047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think this kit car is brilliant. I would greatly prefer owning this reliable, efficient, easily maintained automobile than an original. And surely every measure of performance is better with the replica as well. Did we mention yet, all running gear maintenance and replacement parts are inexpensive and readily available.?. Great show today- awesome content.

  • @MrScotty5877304
    @MrScotty5877304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is obviously at the epic extreme end of the scale but I don't know why manufacturers don't go back to the 50's,60's,70's. Can you imagine if Jag suddenly said were re releasing the E-Type looks the same but all modern guts and interior. Doesnt even have to be an E-Type I'd bet if Ford re-release the Capri a Capri ST they would fly out the dealerships and surely it doesn't have to cost the world, it must be doable on existing chassis's with not too much tweeking.

    • @Thecrazyvaclav
      @Thecrazyvaclav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m guessing over a certain number built it’d have to pass emissions, safety tests, need airbags etc,

    • @nna9509
      @nna9509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They already do that on old chasis units that weren't utilised during production. But after those old chasis are gone, you can't reproduce old cars again.

    • @jibson0011
      @jibson0011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree, manufacturers should make better use of r&d to affordably be able to build their back catalogue. This is what we want lol!

  • @jimbranch7312
    @jimbranch7312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched him build this on TV. He is truly brilliant and this car should go over big.

  • @canucklehead0
    @canucklehead0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a great thing!! I would love to have one of these as my weekend Summer driver and sure beats trying to write the cheque to a company like Pur Sang as fabulous as they are. This is a car I would actually use and not be too worried about scrapes and dings, where as I would be petrified taking the Pur Sang Monza out for a sprint. This is gorgeous, exotic and exciting all whilst hiding the wee little MX-5 beneath, it's absolutely brilliant!!

  • @joeymacme
    @joeymacme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a fantastic project.
    It's really good that both students and modern technology were integral to the design process of a modern reimagining of a brilliant historic race car.
    It's always great to see such brilliant craft work too.
    As someone responsible for maintaining many historical buildings I know all too well the lack of upcoming skilled craftspeople.
    Thanks to Johnny's engaging style and his involvement of young people on this channel, hopefully more people will be inspired to get hands-on & stuck-in to some projects for themselves, and learn some great skills in the process.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon ปีที่แล้ว

      we have to do it that way, no good apprenticeships under tories:)

  • @stevedavies4299
    @stevedavies4299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Jonny, great video, I know this car very well and seen the brilliant engineering and attention to detail these guys
    Have created and would recommend to anyone to build and own one. I’ve been around cars for 40 plus years
    And have a fair amount of knowledge. Another thing it’s probably the best wooden crated packaged vehicle out there.
    Oh I forgot that’s my Lister Le Mans in grey primer in the back ground . Keep it coming.

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for watching. That Lister is 👌🏽

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was wondering what that was...do you have any videos of it? Or plan to?

  • @Marcy3
    @Marcy3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my 1992 Miata, fun, light, capable of tons of smiles! Well done to make shear joy affordable to us gearheads!

  • @peterbradburn9115
    @peterbradburn9115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such a fantastic idea! Love that it's a single donor car. Love that you can do it on a budget or sky's the limit it. Really doesn't seem like a "kit car", just a beautifully engineered way to reuse proven running gear. Absolutely love it

  • @grahamwall9294
    @grahamwall9294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Johnny, Your channel is better than any 5th Gear segment ever was, Well done mate, Really well done!👏

  • @ch3no2uk99
    @ch3no2uk99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I saw this last year and yearn to have one... Before family I owned a supercharged mk1 MX5 which was a hoot.
    I adore watching pre war racing / Hill climbs and this appeals to me more than anything.
    I can't explain how much I want one and want to build one.

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Best part is? With this crowd...you don't need to explain.

  • @noahman27
    @noahman27 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sound of the engine, transmission and exhaust...BRILLIANT

  • @rogeriocosta1035
    @rogeriocosta1035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very well done!
    I would try to hide small LED headlights and turn signals inside the grill or make an external kit, that can be easily mounted and removed without tools, to make it more city friendly.

  • @TreDeuce-qw3kv
    @TreDeuce-qw3kv ปีที่แล้ว

    Always loved the Grand Prix and Indy roadster open wheel cars especially the pre-war Maserati Grand Prix/Indy car. And as a long time(30-years) NA Miata/MX5 owner With a lot of salvaged Miata parts, this falls right in line with my desire to build a classic open wheel car. But first I need to construct some tube headers to match the sound of the Dowsett Tipo 184 recreation for my daily driver MX-5. Thanks for the fun post and kudos to Ant and particularly Darren for this tangible nostalgic creation.

  • @ATomRileyA
    @ATomRileyA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really impressed by this, would love to build one and with so many old rusty MX5's about makes sense. I can imagine that would be lots of fun to drive.

  • @Ro32da72
    @Ro32da72 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, I'm really late to this one - how did I miss it? It is utterly beautiful. Concept, design, quality, execution - faultless. The gear linkage looks like the result of a real 'Eureka!' moment - love it. And the whole car just looks amazing - the roll hoop is quickly forgiven; I wouldn't want to drive one without it. £20k is bargainous - that's Fiesta or Corsa money, and I wouldn't get remotely excited about either of those. I don't know where you find them Jonny, but it amazes me the consistent quality content this channel puts out. Seriously good.
    'I'm Jonny Smith; I forgot to do my shirt up.'

  • @Sir-Prizse
    @Sir-Prizse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I drive a 2cd gen MX-5 NB and yes they rust like crazy and I also love pre war race cars like this Alfa Romeo Tipo 158 Alfetta. Great combination.

  • @stephenwhitworth7701
    @stephenwhitworth7701 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jonny "three or four weekends to assemble one" - nah why rush the process? I think the results achieved with this vehicle are awesome and if you have the chance to watch the assembly videos, particularly to see the well engineered solutions, you will will appreciate the time that has been taken to put this project into a confident self -build realm, and the value it offers for quite some time to come, is an incredible achievement. Thanks for sharing.

  • @SimonH69
    @SimonH69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Great video Johnny.
    Why have a Ferrari or Mclaren when you can have this.

    • @mrcaboosevg6089
      @mrcaboosevg6089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd rather have a Ferrari or McLaren tbh, a Caterham is a more reasonable comparison to make

    • @SimonH69
      @SimonH69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mrcaboosevg6089 can only use 20% power of ferrari or Mclaren on UK roads.
      This you can you 80%.

    • @mrcaboosevg6089
      @mrcaboosevg6089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SimonH69 That's like saying 'A 125 is better because you can use all of the power' despite the fact that it's quite obviously not better. This is a fun car sure but you can still use a Ferrari or McLaren as a car, you can roadtrip to any track in Europe in comfort and even fly down the autobahn at 200mph knowing you're perfectly safe... This however is more of a sunday driver gimmick

  • @sameebah
    @sameebah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a chap who used to visit the car meets in Bristol with a similar shaped special he had built around Alfa 1750 mechanicals.
    I always enjoyed seeing that and having a chat with him.

  • @wadet73
    @wadet73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to order a kit and build my own. Older Mazda MX5s (Miata) are plentiful in the US. Great show! 👍

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do it Wade, do it.

    • @DiscoFang
      @DiscoFang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're gonna need the LHD conversion version.

  • @davidhewson8605
    @davidhewson8605 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a car that Fangio drove !. Darren , great effort over many years. Beautiful machine. Thanks to you and presenter. Dave

  • @daveredfern1775
    @daveredfern1775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing looking car, and something you really could build yourself. I watched the Ant Anstead series on it ant loved watching it come together. Pity it’s a single seater. Maybe it could be stretched a bit and a second seat put in like the two seat spitfire or F1 cars?? Love the show by the way, you put things in a really down to earth, mate down the pub way. You just say it how it is and I love that.

  • @jamesmicca
    @jamesmicca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The series Ant mad building this racer was outstanding. He is a artist and that racer is his art.

  • @mrcaboosevg6089
    @mrcaboosevg6089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There's also the massive benefit of it basically being an MX5. You can buy ready to go turbo kits for pretty cheap and you'll have something that's absolutely rapid

    • @666cemetaryslut
      @666cemetaryslut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A turbo would wouldn't make sense in this car at all, sorry.

    • @harrisonmurphy2490
      @harrisonmurphy2490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@666cemetaryslut Yeah I'm with you on that, even a supercharger would less ideal than ITBs and a racey NA motor in my opinion.

  • @watchman-pu7tp
    @watchman-pu7tp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the hallmarks of great engineering is simplicity. It's easy to just add complexity, either in a mechanism, or aesthetically. The most beautiful car designs that stand the test of time, such as the E-type Jaguar and the early 60's Ferraris have very simple, uncluttered designs, and the best of mechanisms, such as the shifter linkage on this car are beautiful for the same reason.
    The whole concept of taking an MX-5 / Miata and repurposing the drivetrain, suspension, and electricals is pure genius. This thing is just so cool.
    This car speaks to me, as an owner of both a Miata and a Lotus Exige, as the Lotus is a very simple car designed around a bulletproof Toyota drivetrain. Similarly to these guys, Lotus had a very limited engineering budget for the Elise and Exige, so they sourced the best of off the shelf components wherever they could, and spent their engineering budget where it mattered. The result was a supercar for the average man, at a small fraction of the cost of buying and maintaining a Ferrari.
    I bought my Miata as a beater car, but have grown to love it. It's a great car for the money, and I plan to turbo it and add a 6-speed and taller diff. to give it highway legs.
    I'd love to do one of these Tipo 184's, but supercharged, like my Exige. I figure about 225 HP would do nicely. The big question is whether or not you could make it street legal here in the US.

  • @alancroft6536
    @alancroft6536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very impressive! Agree with you that the super charger whine would give an even greater sense of noise and theatre. No it isn’t a maser 250f but then does that matter. I’d have one as a road car any day just to have fun in. Awesome bit of kit. Interesting to know if a straight six could be shoehorned in though just to improve on the sound maybe? Great review 👍🏻

  • @gamernerd7139
    @gamernerd7139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Darren is a modern day master craftsman in the tradition of the greats. These cars might appreciate better than you might imagine

  • @steverees1936
    @steverees1936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What a great looking car and as for not being able to have any passengers, well that's fine by me, as it cuts out any small talk and enables me to hear that lovely exhaust note. I would love to see Darren come up with an AC Ace body design for this chassis as it would be a more affordable option to other kits out there. I also personally feel it looks more attractive in a less fussy way than the Cobra replica's out there, as well as more original.

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Everyone wants a Shelby Cobra replica with the monster 427s and shit for dragstrip duties, and all I want is a Cobra with a removable hardtop and a naturally-aspirated 302 for a good twisty-road flogging...

  • @MrPipvampire
    @MrPipvampire ปีที่แล้ว

    Have one? Build my own? Absolutely!!!!! What a gem....

  • @felipealfredodeblasiramire7091
    @felipealfredodeblasiramire7091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Este coche es lo que siempre e pensado de los viejos diseños y es que son atemporales y esta gente a echo un gran trabajo poniendo en valor estos coches dotándolos de un montón de cosas modernas que no hacen más que acentuar lo grandioso de estos coches haciéndolos mucho más seguros y también más rápidos ,pero sobretodo haciendo que el espectáculo de las carreras sean más atractivos ,todo mi respeto y admiración para todos los que participaron en la realización de esta obra de arte

  • @MartinBettler
    @MartinBettler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the most brilliant concept/execution I saw in a while!

  • @tj37475
    @tj37475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love it, I think this concept is so cool. The real thing is 'out-of-reach' for most of us, but the pre-war race car look of this is perfect and to have something this easy, this reliable and this cheap is brilliant. I love to 'buzz' around in something that is open wheel and street legal, awesome !!!!! 👍 The future EV option is smart business too, well done to you Darren.

  • @Nick_R_
    @Nick_R_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant. My father and I built a kit car. It was a bonding experience. I'd recommend servo brakes though!

  • @stephencook754
    @stephencook754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I absolutely love the idea, and no doubt it would be a riot to drive. I am having trouble getting over the proportions, particularly around the rear where the headrest extends way up there with the roll bar. It makes the rear tires/wheels look really small. It also looks like you are sitting up really high, as if on a throne.

    • @lukewalker1051
      @lukewalker1051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That was the intended look. The car of kings.

  • @RemaL-2023
    @RemaL-2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having built a Tiger Supercat in 2003-4 that I still own this is a great vid. And tempted. This is lovely

  • @henryhol8538
    @henryhol8538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wonder if they would ever consider creating a two seater bodyshell that would clothe a similar chassis. It could be based on the shape of an early Lotus or Mercedes race car. I remember watching Ant's television programme during deepest covid, and have seen this car at the London Classics Car Show, the NEC Restoration Show and at last weeks Classics on the Common. It good to know more of the story behind the Tipo 184 and to meet Darren Collins!

    • @chaycock65
      @chaycock65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Have a look at the ANC Replicar, Aston Martin DBR1 inspired body taking the same approach with the mechanicals from a rusted MX5.

  • @ChrisBWelch
    @ChrisBWelch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I saw the thumbnail I thought, oh that's like the one Ant Anstead did! And then... Another brilliant film and a fascinating idea, I love it! Older cars being reborn is fantastic. I wonder if someone could make a classic 2 seater? Exciting times ahead!

    • @skizzysmith1146
      @skizzysmith1146 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      good idea, how about a Mercedes Benz 300 SLR, like moss and Jenks won the Mille miglia in ?

  • @Chris-ww7fy
    @Chris-ww7fy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve always wanted an MX-5 but worried I’d be too big. This solves the height problem!

    • @moorsyclimbing
      @moorsyclimbing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair you can just pop the top down in an MX5 and it is much the same as this, in terms of squeezing you in!

    • @uliwehner
      @uliwehner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moorsyclimbing yeah but in a "real miata" you are tempted to use it to commute, in the rain. roof up, and anybody over 5'9 can't see out of the windshield to see the traffic lights. This is much better, no pretense that it is a "car". it is a toy.

    • @thomashrubecky1663
      @thomashrubecky1663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@uliwehner Well… to be VERY clear, it’s a “grown-up’s” toy!

    • @MrOvershoot
      @MrOvershoot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a NB MX5 and after a year at 6'3", 191cm I decided I looked silly with my head above the windscreen. So I bought a Porsche 981 Boxster S, still have the MX5 but its the 1.8VVT with 6spd and LSD that won't fit this kit 😔

    • @uliwehner
      @uliwehner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrOvershoot i can't even imagine. i am 5'11, and i was literally given a low mileage rust free miata, tried it for 2 weeks and gave it back..... couldn't see the traffic lights with the top on.

  • @geoffblake2748
    @geoffblake2748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve always thought that I’d go for an Arial Atom when I pack up riding motorbikes but… this is a much better choice as far as I’m concerned.

    • @benbirch2393
      @benbirch2393 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leave it out lol

    • @stuartd9741
      @stuartd9741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ariel Atom for me too.
      I can't say driving an AA is that far removed from a motorbike lol.

    • @chrisbraid2907
      @chrisbraid2907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d prefer two seats so it’s either the Atom or the mx5, I’d love a 1600 NA … gotta be manual. My boy had a MR2 button shift but me and the wife are manual drivers … if she’s off the back of my 1981 GSX 1100 then into an MX5 she’d be really happy, I guess I could restore my ‘79 924 2 litre …

  • @jasondunn8313
    @jasondunn8313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the concept! Think even I could tackle it as a project and love the idea of an old school supercharged version.

  • @chrismartin5870
    @chrismartin5870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If this was Top Gear, every other word would have been slagging off kit cars and men in sheds....

  • @slicedbread9003
    @slicedbread9003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy Cr@p! This is my dream car. The thing with me is I always dreamed that it would be made with Alfa bits. This made sense to me since there were so many Alfettas and GT that rusted badly. But they are hard to find nowadays. Using a MX-5 makes this work for more than me. I love the attention to detail on this. The spoked wheels with the knock off hub looks so right. I know it has been tweaked but done so masterfully. It sounds pretty good too, but I never heard the original. I would believe it sounds quite different. I cannot imagine anyone considering an electric version of this historic car. Great job to the team at Dowsetts.

  • @joshdobson2737
    @joshdobson2737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you want to feel like sir Sterling Moss..... a supercharged one of these is probably the easiest and cheapest ways?!? The Nurburgring would be amazing

  • @stephenbennett3330
    @stephenbennett3330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant just brilliant and you did it justice in your commentry.

  • @Laz_Arus
    @Laz_Arus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    With our ludicrous nanny laws here in Australia, I couldn't imagine being able to register one. 😟 That's a real pity, because I would sell either my original NA or ND to help fund the building of one. 👍

    • @Hvitserk67
      @Hvitserk67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The British are lucky. Nor can I imagine that such a car would be able to be registered here in Denmark or in, for example, Norway. Our authorities follow German legislation through TÜF (Technischer Überwachungsverein), which is the Technical Inspection Association in Germany. These associations are independent companies that test, inspect, and certify technologies, products, and systems to ensure potential hazards and prevent damages.

    • @callummclachlan4771
      @callummclachlan4771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Australian kit car rules are rather lax. This car even has simulated crash tests, something which isn't required for Australian kit cars.
      Granted you do need lights but there is a kit, plus I imagine you could make some that don't affect the lines. Same with mirrors. Emissions aren't a problem as we have some of the lowest requirements.
      If it's done properly, it should pass.

    • @touringmoose
      @touringmoose 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@callummclachlan4771 Emissions are based on the age of the engine. I had to get a dating certificate from Ford for my scratch build and then the emissions are based on what they were when the engine donor car was registered. Iirc the emissions were printed on the front of the log book when I got it.

  • @isaactaylor-wilson8832
    @isaactaylor-wilson8832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the lovely pleasure of help build one of these tipo's on their stand at the NEC show at the start of the year, and had great conversations with Darren and Ant..think it's by far one of the best concepts for the industry

  • @benzinapaul7416
    @benzinapaul7416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How does it get round having no covers over the wheels, I thought all road cars had to have them? Shame they can't get the driver sit lower. Otherwise it looks great and well done to all involved

    • @sunnybump
      @sunnybump 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Illegal in the UK to have open wheels, I think. They sell a kit for road use.

    • @touringmoose
      @touringmoose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sunnybumpLots of this would fail IVA. It's tough to get a car through it and it's not cheap. I think I paid £600 in 2014 and a retest is £100. I wonder where you stand if plod wants to be arsey about construction and use regs? Nice looking car though and guaranteed to be fun to drive.

    • @poprin5194
      @poprin5194 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking exactly this, I can only assume they had special permission for the video. Which is a shame because I imagine the mud guards would completely ruin the look of the car.

  • @TestarossaF110
    @TestarossaF110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This stuff makes my whole body feel things it has never done before, I love it sooo sooo much!!!! I wish I could build one with my dad.

  • @jumpferjoy1st
    @jumpferjoy1st 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A great idea and good luck to them. Looking at the car without the body, I noticed that the exhaust is prep'ed for a 6 cylinder engine. Would this take the Mazda 2.0 v6 or 2.5 v6, I wonder? Now this with a 2.5 V6 engine note, that would be good.

    • @adrianbyron-parker5797
      @adrianbyron-parker5797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just for looks on the outside I guess 😞

    • @realMaverickBuckley
      @realMaverickBuckley 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adrianbyron-parker5797 Its for both looks and noise. They take the the exhaust from 1 and 2 , 3 and 4 that's why it sounds like a pre war straight8 rather than a loud MX5
      As far as a V engine, maybe, depends if you have the talent.

    • @wfidrock
      @wfidrock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@realMaverickBuckley - not for noise, @jumpfer Joy - and not for a 6 cylinder (count again) - the exhaust is set up to 'emulate' the original straight 8 (8 cylinder) engine of the Alpha Tipo 158. Those 'extra' pipes are blocked off, hence they are 'fake' and contribute only looks, no sound...

  • @robertwarnock5452
    @robertwarnock5452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it - been following these from when they started on them and would be one of the first things I order if my numbers come up!!!
    Had a brief chat with Darren at Goodwood FOS too - absolute top man!!!

  • @23gps
    @23gps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Neat & inspiring design. Good onward use of the NB MX5's drive train which was a let down visually after the NA and I wouldn't feel any remorse in butchering a rusty NB. The roll bar detracts from the overall design though ( appreciate it has to be there) perhaps it would blend in better if painted black or body colour?

    • @thomashrubecky1663
      @thomashrubecky1663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gotta paint it black. Body colour would just extend the height of the car.

  • @TheAssassinPanda
    @TheAssassinPanda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is exactly the kind content I love from the channel. That car looks beautiful

  • @ole-martinlundefaret5876
    @ole-martinlundefaret5876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh… I should have not seen this. Already looking for a broken MX-5. Oh no.

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's plenty in the UK!

    • @ole-martinlundefaret5876
      @ole-martinlundefaret5876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheLateBrakeShow I have put money aside for a Polaris RZR for my Rally School, but now my stomach is telling my brain that what I need in life is to tear up the local windy roads like Fangios gost! Here in Norway it would even be great on ice, with proper ice studs (GP racers were raced on ice in Scandinavia.)
      Thanks for making a great show, but this one I should not have watched. I have to take a cold shower…

  • @mpicanza4491
    @mpicanza4491 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ‘motorbike’ that I am not allowed to have anymore - this is absolutely perfect.

  • @johnnyslaphead3983
    @johnnyslaphead3983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There's no such thing as a daylight MOT - it's just an MOT with an advisory that says the lights couldn't be tested as they weren't fitted, therefore the vehicle can only be used in daylight hours. Pedantic I know, sorry. Surprised the open wheels are allowed on the road

    • @wfidrock
      @wfidrock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They sell a 'Road Going Kit' that adds the head / tail lights, fenders, marker lights, turn signals, etc.

    • @acme_tnt8741
      @acme_tnt8741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm from the USA. What does MOT failure mean?

    • @wfidrock
      @wfidrock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@acme_tnt8741 In other words it is like a car that failed a Safety Inspection here in the US (I am in TX), although that inspection is going to differ between states (and sometimes even counties, like here in TX).
      In the UK, unlike many US states (I believe) they are tough on the MOT inspection on items like rust, so a Miata with body rust in certain areas can fail an MOT, but still have decent drive train and suspension (front & rear subframe components, as are used in kit build).
      I myself just bought a used (running, road legal) 1999 Miata with 130K miles (no rust, TX) as my donor ($2K) and 'rebuilding' all the donor parts...

    • @acme_tnt8741
      @acme_tnt8741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wfidrock I understand that. I was just trying to understand the meaning of the letters in the acronym "MOT". I feel bad for you having inspections in TX. I'm from Ohio and we have no yearly inspection. Rusted out cab corner and fender square body Chevy truck that I use periodically but no where near daily. A 2002 zo6 with hollow 3"stainless tubes from the headers back cat delete no muffler. I registered both again around early April. I handed the state cash. They handed me 2 stickers. Lol I'm looking at the paperwork now. It seems that I forgot to mention that my car is no longer white. Blue cat with a white title. If I ever get pulled oven if the cop even mentions the paint job I will be surprised. Which bothers me in a sort of way. I'm totally against government licensure and regulation, but if they are going to do that anyways. Might as well check the VIN. That has never happened to me and my cars have a habit of changing color. I wonder if these chassis would work with a 1995 325is. I have had one for a while now. Bad convertible top and it got hit by the forks on a forklift. 2.5 I6 with a 5 speed that runs excellent. No codes or lights either.

    • @wfidrock
      @wfidrock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@acme_tnt8741 Oh, the letters stand for Ministry Of Transport (M.O.T.)

  • @marcjudge680
    @marcjudge680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genius from Darren and Ant. Your final comments at the end of the video is exactly how I'm feeling. Yet you possible to swap a body. Massa 250 would be a dream come true. Genius design for everyone budget. Probably my favourite vid to date Jonny. Would love a straight six skyline internals. Supercharged MX 5 sounds a go. They even managed to make it sound 1950s. Epic 👍😁

  • @rogermatthews182
    @rogermatthews182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kit cars... as a child I was lucky enough to get introduced to cool cars by being taken for a ride in a kit car replica of a 1964 Ferrari 250 GTO, it was my first experience above 100 mph (in a 30 mph speed zone).
    Recently, using the internet I set out to try and ID the car I had ridden in many years previously, and I discovered that the original donor car had been an ex-F1 Ferrari Dino 256 (chassis 0007).
    Now that's a seriously cool kit car!

  • @michaelschneider-
    @michaelschneider- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    +1 . Came back to view the episode a second time ... Can you see tooling around Vail Village in this (work-of-art) timely piece?
    Went down to the vintage eyeglass shop to try on leather goggles ....

  • @dubsonthebrain5859
    @dubsonthebrain5859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done, Johnny. This was inspirational, thank you! I would love to build the full kit. Cheers.

  • @jdear97
    @jdear97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautifully done. Very nice piece of kit. Thanks Jonny

  • @rogerthat10-47
    @rogerthat10-47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In this "ThrowAway" world these guys have created something that gives the humble MX5 a second chance, & by the look of things it's taking off.
    This guy is incredibly fortunate as he gets to design an "Entire Car" instead of just one part, I have contracted to some World Class Companies & only designed 1 or 2 parts, with this he gets to do the whole thing & I think because of that he has got The Very Best out of his donor vehicle.