Fuel Economy Challenge - Ford Mondeo ST TDCi 180 mile MPG test
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- ROAD TRIP! We're off to Shepton Mallet to buy some Volvo 850 alloy wheels, so why not use this opportunity to see just how much MPG can be squeezed out of an almost-twenty-year-old oil burning Ford Mondeo TDCi ST?
Have a guess what you think it'll achieve over 180 miles.
#Hypermiling #Environment #Economy #Challenge
Diesels are and always have been brilliant for long journeys.
.........And always will be. Even after production ceases, there will still be plenty left on the roads. Someone, somewhere will come-up with a suitable clean synthetic fuel.
@@stubeedoo8259 I hope...it's just a hype about EV. People will wake up. and ban on petrol/diesel won't happen
@@stubeedoo8259 Biodiesel or...? Rudolf's Diesels engines was initially designed for farmers using old waste oil?
Not only long journeys I used to get around town approximately 40mpg in my Kia diesel same car 1.0 petrol 25mpg .
I have a 59 plate 2.2 tdci mondeo, a couple of years ago we took our caravan on a trip to Scotland, 8 weeks, 4,500 miles over the whole trip as I pulled back outside my house I was reading 48.9 mpg over the whole trip. Can't fault it.
I’m really looking forward to this, having just watched Matt from High Peak Autos complete a huge economy run in a Panda diesel.
Me too! I wonder what his engine warning problem is? Hahaha!
@@tomsurrey2252 Indeed. Just asked him how he's going to get home.
High peaks vid- link -th-cam.com/video/ZLB5M1-BrC0/w-d-xo.html
One of the best cars I ever owned!! 08 Mondy ST estate 2.2 TDCi. Superb towcar too.
08 was a next gen wasn't it?
Tow with my 2015 mk5 diesel, and I get a quite good 32 mpg when pulling the 900kg shed on wheels behind me.
@colin jones my mondy estate had levelling suspension as well - superb towcar
@@SteveeCee I never knew that was an option tbh.
Amazing mpg… and it’s not had to have lithium, cobalt and whatever else they have 5 year old mining, great car to keep .. my one owner 71k Mondeo has plenty of life yet. EVs won’t save us they’ll probably be the death of the planet!
I should have probably added I didn't stop for coffee or a piss either, ha ha
@@riversidetribe5972 not a case of I didn't stop but I didn't HAVE to stop.
Cracking video of the real world and not what most seem to be believing! Its the same with oil boilers, been an engineer for 36 years, its all down to maintenance and being aware of how to use them to their potential.
Excellent video , love a bit of hyper-mileing myself and regularly get high 50's on a long run out of my 2003 E270CDi Merc, with the 2.7 litre 5 pot oil burner.
Excellent point about clean air avoidance routes too , but sorry it's not the council's fault that scum dispose of litter out of cars& wagons and litter the side of roads because they're too lazy to find a bin!
I used to own a 2005 2.2 tdci mondeo titanium x ,it was the 155 bhp same as in your ST .I would religiously achieve 67 mpg from my mondeo on a decent run . I later changed my car and purchased a 2009 mondeo titanium x sport estate. It was the 175 bhp 2.2 6 speed manual. This car must have been a tad heavier as 48 mpg was the best I ever did see from that car . But my later purchase was a 2018 skoda superb 2.0 190 tdi dsg sel executive estate. That car was fantastic on fuel and would constantly return 68 mpg on a long motorway journey. All hail the diesel ⛽️ 🙌
On modern cars the gap between diesel fuel economy and petrol has narrowed significantly and given that diesel is over 20p more expensive unless you run 90% or more on motorways the modern petrol is better option than modern diesel.
Well done 👍
My old 18d BMW X1 was fantastic.
Best I ever got was 66mpg on a just shy of 200 mile round trip.
That engine is an absolute peach 🍑
I have a 3ltr Jag XJ diesel. On a run from Liverpool to Exeter it gave me an overall 54 mpg! Struck lucky with traffic and road works etc. But for a car the size of a barge I'm really happy with that.
Absolute superb miles and no waiting around for hours ,diesel car engines have come a long way and a while ago the government were championing them .The old cavalier td is aparently capable of 60mpg plus with the old isuzu engines .
I was lucky enough to buy a 6 month only 05 plate mondeo TDCI 130. It had a shade over 6k miles on it when I bought it. I owned it 6 years and PX-ed it at 185k. In that time it had a cluch and flywheel and a handbrake cable. Apart from service items like brakes and discs, oil and filter etc that's all it had. Mid 50's was an average run for the car but 62 was achievable in favorable traffic.
I still say that was quite possibly the best car I've owned to date. It towed our trailed and caravan around the country. It was a well maintained work partner that I was sad to see go. When I got the new car I wished I hadn't let it go.
Hi Geoff,
I'm a fairly recent subscriber to your channel and have watched your back catalogue. Great work.
I run a 2016 Skoda Octavia 2.0 TDI Scout which I have owned from new. I once managed 64.4 mpg according to its trip computer and mid to high 50's is a regular occurrence. On that , how accurate are the on board computers, do they measure how much fuel goes through the injectors ?.
Regarding the rubbish, it's the same everywhere you go, it's disgraceful, just what do we get for all the various taxes we pay out. It just seems we are constantly being muggedby the authorities and getting less and less for it.
They should get prisoners out clearing rubbish from the road side or use able bodied benefit recipients.
The clean air zones forcing people to seek alternative routes was always going to happen, absolute lunacy.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers Stuart! I really like the Octavia Scout. That's 2wd but a little higher and chunkier, or is it 4wd...?
@Geoff Buys Cars It's the Haldex system, all wheel drive, usually front wheel drive but sends power to the wheels that need it when it detects lack of grip.
I had the MK1 Scout on a 2008, then I went to a Yeti and back to this MK 3 Scout. I can't really fault it, good power good mpg, enough toys, very comfy , a massive boot and AWD. I love estate cars. I've only had to change one reversing light bulb since owning Skodas.
Loved the Volvos when I was in the police.
@@stuartbourne5135 Had friends who bought a yeti but it had loooooads of problems
@Geoff Buys Cars Maybe I've been lucky in having three cars and only having one blown bulb between them. I thought the Yeti was great but the Octavia has a bigger boot and I prefer the look of estate's to SUVs.
Fantastic a big comfortable powerfull car that can do MPG after 20 years IS saving the planet in real terms !
Loved that,what a brilliant video,so surprised you got that mpg,I used to live in Bristol,don't miss it one bit.
Glad you liked the video!
I miss my old blue tractor, a 1999 Jazz Blue Mk4 Golf GTTDI 110ps. I did a similar trip to you I went from Glasgow to Gateshead to pick up Audi S3 wheels for it and it averaged 68mpg there and back. Sure being a pre PD it was probably very dirty by today's standards, but you never had to worry about dpf's or ad blue of modern cars, it just ran and ran. I check it's reg on the govt site every now and again and she's still going strong.
2003 Skoda Octavia Estate 1.9 SDi 68 HP, non turbo, no DPF, no double mass flywheel. Range: 913 miles on 58 L of diesel.
Bulletproof engine👌
Used as a taxi 200k miles but we used to say the customer knew you had arrived by the noise you made you couldn’t stop and idle in a residential street without getting a complaint at night !! Fantastic in deep snow
My ST TDCI was amazing on Fuel. especially after the Viezu "Economy Remap" I could average 52 mpg on mixed journeys 65-70mpg on motorway runs. I miss it dearly.
What remap is this?
@@garethtrussler7970 Its from Viezu.... check them out online. I had the a custom map geared for economy and drivability... It did exactly that power everywhere and even better economy.
Loved my old ST tdci.
Love that car, great video, great purchase on the ST
And Fcuk the clean air scam’s & 15minute shite.
I also have a Motorhome 2.2ltr tdci o5 plate went to france saumer (loire valley) did not re-fuel till on way back just short of Paris but could have made it back to England easily and a bit of wine on board. How goods that!
That is impressive. Just goes to show what can be achieved ey? Lovely car. I've got a mk5 estate 2.0 184 bhp diesel, and on an 80 mile drive home from Shropshire last June...granted, going with the fairly slow flow on A roads, at 45-55 mph most of the time, I got an eye watering 68mpg. :o Normal around town is 45-48, 53-57/8 on a steady run at 65 on motorways etc.
I have a 2004 ST TDCi needing some TLC. Haven't driven it for over a year and I've missed it. Little tip for you with these. Lift up the base of the rear seat which then rests up against the backs of the front seats and then put the back rest down giving you a complete flat floor.
Clean air zones. Just designed to disrupt, cause congestion and stress.
I've noticed over the last 18 months roadworks that have you sat for 20 minutes plus, and no work going on.
And these roadworks are in the same place for months on end. Go check near you.
I have an old Fiat Doblo multijet as a workhorse. It’s managed 53mpg on its last few journeys, back roads and A roads. Usually 40mpg in town. Expensive to tax for a 1.3 diesel though.
I also had a 55 plate ST TDCI way back when,definitely good on fuel and a torquey motor too.
Owning a couple of the ST TDCi variants, do not let them go on the 50 mile range because it drags crap up from the tank and shortens the fuel pump and injectors on these.
One of the things I've noticed on motorway journeys, EV's will blast past you on the outside lane, few miles later you will pass them while still travelling at the same speed, I think it's when they realize how far away they are from a charger.
EVs are at their worst on the motorways as they do not benefit from regen braking like they do in the city so the battery depletes quicker.
Hate to potentially burst your bubble, but the MK3 Diesel Mondeo was always optimistic when it came to its trip computer MPG by about 10% in my experience. Had one many years ago and used to measure the actual MPG by filling at the same pump, letting it click just once and doing the calculations. If over the course of a tank it was saying 50 on the computer, the real figure was about 5mpg less. Wasn’t an anomaly with mine either as was on a large Mondeo forum and this was the general experience of all the MK3’s no matter what the engine. Similar story when I changed to a X-Type Estate - optimistic but closer to reality. Trip Computer MPG seem to be more accurate on newer cars I find - the missus Fiat 500 is spot on.
Yeah good comment, most cars are optimistic!
Engine performance and economy go hand in hand. To be economical a engine needs to be efficient .To get the most performance a engine has to be efficient.
Impressive for one of my favorite of the mondeos ...
Yeh clean up the rubbish to clean up the environ. What a good point
Hi Geoff, I drive a Peugeot 407, 2 litre turbo diesel and most years I take a week long holiday on the Isle of Skye from home near Chester.
The total distance to the Skye bridge is 420.4 miles via M53, 56, M6 and M 74 through Glasgow past Loch Lomond, Fort William and Kyle of Lochalsh. Over the whole week total mileage door to door is around 1365 miles.
I check fuel consumption in 2 ways:-
- on board consumption meter
- total fuel put in plus top up to full again on return home (always start with a full tank).
At a steady 70 mph on motorways meter shows 68 mpg this seems optimistic but without a separate snap tank I can’t prove it.
From the onboard meter the average for the whole week shows 53.2 mpg.
Using total fuel figures back home gives an impressive 55.39mpg. Neither is accurate but it gives a good indicator . Average speeds are as follows:-
Outbound 53 mph
Return 48mph
The only factor to consider is that from Glasgow going north traffic is very scarce and an economical cruise is straight forward as Saturday evenings are quiet. Return is similar with night traffic on the M74/M6 being the only constraint due to HGV activity.
For info car is 18 yrs old (reg Jan 2005) with 83k miles and lacks cruise control!
Date of journey October 2021.
PS I also have figures for a 1.8 petrol mondeo mark 1 over the same journey I have not included these as they are embarrassingly low!
Great comment thank you! Now I want to drive to Skye...
had one of these cars......got 72mpg on a 300 mile run . wicked cars..only thing that lets them down is that they sound like a tractor
Not bad. Had 50mpg out of my 2008 3.0 TDI on the motorway mixed 50-70mph it regenerated at least once also.
I have a Saab 9-3 tid. It easily covers 60 plus mpg averages to and from Norwich and long Journeys up to the Lakes etc. Its a 2007 pre dpf model. 166k on the clock. Had it 11 years in a few days time. It even has just under 200 brake with all the torques I need. Now running it without the egr plugged in to help it chug on better and not soot its manifold up.
i have an 08 plate 93 ttid, get 72 on a run. underatted. and its clocked over 140k now
Carnt beat pre dpf models that wat fuck them up the dpf
"Welcome to the future it's r*tarded"
That was the moment your video got a thumbs up 🤣
ha ha, glad you liked that!
Simply amazing
Great car mondeo ST
My mondeo 2005 st220 3.0 v6 petrol is rubbish on fuel and in the high tax bracket but put it into the ulez website and said I would have no charges but my 2012 1.3cdti astra (20 pounds a year tax) would be charged full wack. It doesn't make sense. Could anyone explain?
Cash grab. Control.. take your pick ha ha
I got a mk3 2 ltr it dose about 20 mpg in town. Don't know what it dose on a long run (don't care)
It's still cheaper than a ev
It is very easy to get 60mpg on the motorway in a mk3, at 50 in a mk5 you should get 73 mpg ! I found that out when there was a 50 limit from London to Reading, reset the mpg counter at J2 and set the cruse control.
If you get it remapped you can get well over 50mpg. Mine used to be able to get 58mpg even at higher speeds.
I absolutely love this kind of video! EV fanatics can claim all they like but they still can't beat the established fuels - idiots. Well done Geoff - DON'T touch the brakes.....
Lots more of this coming, I have a Volvo 850 TDi and now a T5 with LPG!
@@GeoffBuysCars Which LPG kit is on the T5?
I've got an ancient BiGas system. The injectors were supposed to be changed every 10,000 of I recall but they weren't obsolete many years ago. Done 200,000+ on LPG, got it converted at 112,000. Some people thought I was nuts at that mileage but the rationale was that the car was fine, ran fine, no incentive to change other than to get better than 28mpg.
I hope Jordan Peterson becomes the Canadians next prime minister.
Amazing, my golf mk7 1.6 Bluemotion has been averaging 51mpg to Norwich and back(25mile), shit when you consider I had a mk3 focus (very similar car) did up to 70mpg easily! 🤔
Shit when you consider that VW 1.9 TDI units dating back to the late 90s get better fuel economy than that too.
Had an old "jelly mould" shaped Micra 1.5DCi that used to indicate 90+mpg on a run. Never checked to see how accurate this was though?
ooooh i want one!
@@GeoffBuysCars Renault Clio has same engine
On an earlier Mondeo during the fuel strikes in 2000 I managed to get a petrol 1600cc up to 55mpg. On a carburettor.
It would do 45mpg without any real attempt at all. It seemed to have this useful lump of toeque at about 70 in top gear.
Since a diesel has about 15% more energy per unit volume It look s about equivilent!!
Not much efficiency progress in this later version then...
I've had an easy 70 mpg from my Astra 2.0 Cdti, but the kicker is when you ignore the OBC, brim it, and find you're really doing 10 mpg less
Totally agree.
Easy done I got 48 miles many times after 0 miles, showing from my 06 2.2 tdci
My 2002 BMW 330d will still do 55 mpg at about 60-65 mph…not too bad for a 20 year old,3.0 litre,6 cylinder 200hp plus car…and these days it does less than 2000 miles per year…is it REALLY better to go buy a new electric or keep my old diesel 🤔🤔
Totally! Always found with the 3 litre BMWs it was a big trade off in MPG over the 2.0 d to have those extra cylinders, but it's a mighty engine.
Miss my old st diesel, also miss the annoying pigeon in the pipe when it was decat on gear change but it was so good on the oil burner juice. Swapped upto a MK4.5 xsport n by God it's really bad on diesel 😂 currently I'm averaging 24mpg round town driving also nowhere near as fun to drive and I don't care what anyone says the st was definitely quicker
Used to get better mpg from my 2.2 TDCI GhiaX than my newer 2.0 VAG group diesel
Great economical motorway muncher
Stay nice a smooth on the right foot and the old ford diesel sip sip sips nice 😁
I drove to Cornwall in my mondeo 2.2 tdci and got 76mpg cruising at 70mph
hi super random one, I have a car with the same engine, it's phenomenal however I am wondering how you best advise going up hills in order to get the best MPG, never sure whether to drop gears or what... cheers!
Mondeo Mk III 2.0l TDCI (over 10yrs ago) drove lancashire to Dover (100mph) over 70mpg - by the time I got to Disney was at 85mpg and I didn't even use 1/2 tank of fuel: that's ecconomic's of diesel. Current Mk IV averages 54mpg (mixed)
Yeah the 2.0 is a little less pokey but better on fuel I thnik
Funny, I've got a 2016 Nissan X-trail 1.6DCI @ 60mph on a good run I can average 82mpg from Birmingham to Liverpool and back, currently averaging 68.5mpg over the last 4500 miles which is mostly motorway but town as well. It takes less than £100 to fill it now and does 830 miles per tank.
Singapore has it right. Huge punishment for littering. Cleanest place on the planet. Do it here and make litter louts pick litter as their punishment.
I like the Mondeo but I had a bog standard Tdci and honestly I could never get that great economy out of it. High 40’s was best. Replaced it with an automatic 2.7 CDI (5 cylinder) Mercedes which used less - managed 63mpg in that once!
Impressive, very surprising with the weight of all the wheels.
Cracking mota.
ive got a focus mk2 1.8tdci .... quite often get 60-65mpg on runs from hasting's to Lancaster driving about 60-65 mph
Yeah the 1.8 is a super frugal engine!
Hi geoff guy E38 Manchester .last night i put £30 in my E38 it said range 176miles i went round M60 twice then it said Range 205 miles its mad i was testing something then i went up to Hebden bridge then back to bolton and its gone up Again but its an E38 728I, ITS MAD . But its Mint And mint green ,well Glacier green , a lot of people snapp it in the city at night wich i like .
That's brilliant mate, I just bought a brand new ONE LITRE Aygo X, petrol 3 cylinders, and I'm getting around 59MPG at best so far, admittedly petrol is about 20p cheaper though. I noted you passed a cycle lane at one point - with only ONE bike in it, no surprises! 🤣
The Aygo X is a total rip off £20k for an aygo on stilts with daft wheels and its gutless and feels like its going to fall over in the corners. Also check the price of new tyres on your Aygo X you won't be happy when they need replacing.
@@gravemind6536 Nope, didn't pay 20K for mine, not even 17K. If you're gonna gutter snipe at others and not even have one good thing to say about anything, I suggest you take your face for a shit.
@@comicmania2008 There isn't anything good to say about the Aygo X, it loses all the good things that could be said of the previous Aygo cars and in one fould swoop gains a load of bad things. Between 500 and 700 just for a set of tyres across both axles on what is suppossed to be a cheap functional car. I however have one good thing to say so I shall add it now, the turning circle is very good.
@@gravemind6536 I'll cross the 'tyre' barrier WHEN it happens, on the very 'rare' occasion I shell out for new tyres, once in a blue moon. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy my 62 MPG I got yesterday, cheap ins, 10 year warrantee, active cruise control, lane assist, standard on all Aygo X. I wonder what shitty car you drive? Ford £££ Vauxhall £££ EV mega ££££ You don't say, and I don't really friggin care!
Can't wait to see those wheels on. Gunna be mint!
Not sure if ill do it yet, I really can't decide!
Love the mondeo mind you im biased I love fast Fords and have a mk2 Focus ST
Impressive, I get approx 56mpg from my Nissan nv200 diesel with mixed driving.
I only ever got 48 mpg average from my 2007 st tdci but I was never an eco driver
I took a round trip of 500 miles in my Vauxhall Astra 1.6 Eco-flex it’s 52L tank was telling me I had 240 miles left in it when I got home Diesel cars are the cheapest to run if you drive them sensibly
Hr Geoff I have been extremely fortunate to have a car on motobility for last 3 years.A Toyota CHR..The best 3 years drive of my life.I suspect many others are now going to be housebound also?Just another 'kick in the belly'
😓
14mpg at 55-60mph in my RRC or 9mpg in my 84 Chevy Silverado :) smiles per gallon
I got 68 mpg out of mine, video is on TH-cam, I've got a pumaspeed stage 3 mk3.5 st diesel, 278 bhp and 580nm, had 63 mpg out of that.
The best mpg I've had from any car is my current 2008 honda civic 2.2 diesel, I achieved 67.7mpg on a fairly flat journey at speeds between 50 and 60 mph. I'm interested to see if you can beat that in your mondeo.
Very much doubt it the mondeo is much bigger than a 2008 civic and the engine isn't the best it's a ford diesel not a PSA engine like the mk4 had. I think 48mpg would be good going. My 1.8 diesel gets 42mpg most of the time.
Honda are Great cars, so reliable, so nice to drive, had Mondeo for 3 years, so many annoying things like Stalled loads and others same issue, estate boot wouldn't shut had to slam it, awful in traffic with heavy clutch and it was new car, not had any hassle with my 16 and 20.year Honda's and last 2 trips in 2000 HRV one to Leeds and back one to withernsea and back both with passenger and one with machine on way 526mile 48mpg and if it was the civic the engine came out 53/54mpg 5 door family hatchback and it's Petrol
@@daddymulk I had a Mondeo saloon, I f'ing hated it. The most boring car to drive I've ever owned, it literally sucked the fun out of driving for me and I've owned some boring cars in my time, Mini Metro, Hyundai Pony, a Suburu Justy that was so rusty I could see the road under my feet, they were all more enjoyable to drive than the Mondeo I had. It made me feel sorry for all those Taxi drivers. 🤣
@@dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697 😂😂 my Dad and Brother love there Fords, mains reason dad always had them was Cheap to buy and Cheap parts, strange you mention Subaru Justy, 2 days ago I wouldn't have had a clue what that was, yesterday my partner dropped her car off for me to repair, Suzuki Ignis, when dropping her home I said Ignis up ahead, we got behind at lights and it's A Subaru G3X Justy, Never knew till yesterday they rebadged them Subaru, we have Vauxhall agilia or what ever there called rebadged Suzuki Wagon R. This Ignis is in great condition underneath still original exhaust, 27k miles but it's been stuck on mainroad for last 12 years never failed MoT
@@daddymulk The Justy I had was from the early 80's I think, 3 cylinder engine and a 4WD button on top of the gear stick like a James Bond ejector seat and it revved like a lunatic. Cheap rusty sh..box that put a big smile on my face, got me to work and all around the lake district. As I mentioned with how rusty it was I had been it's final owner. I'd been living in Israel for a year and when I came back I needed a car, so I paid a whopping 50 quid for that Justy and I got another 25 thousand miles out of it the following 2 years. It was my hero.
As environmentally friendly as a cuckoo👍👍👍
I get, on average, low 50's MPG from my mk. 2 Peugeot 306 TDLX, the older 1.9 IDI engine, not the later 2 litre HDi. I've never been able to get near 60 MPG, but it's very reliable, no limp modes etc., being devoid of all the gubbins, exhaust sensors and so on. It could do with having a 6th gear but I've not heard of one that has an easy fitment, both mechanically and as regards the post cable driven instruments of the earlier mk. 1 306.
A 6th gear won't improve mpg but it would make it quite at higher speeds. I've gone from a 5 too a 6 speed same engine no different in mpg.
@@chrishart8548 I did try an HDi gearbox for a slightly taller top gear but third gear was cooked and I got a refund from the seller. I've tuned my car up a bit and it pulls like a train from 1,500 RPM, so it does feel as if it could easily pull a higher gear. Never mind, I don't tend to do much distance driving nowadays anyway.
this proves lower speed increase emissions.
The most efficient MPG in in top gear or overdrive at the middle or top of the engines torque curve.
Had 68.6 out of my Seat Exeo estate . From warrington to Exmouth.
That's good that! 2.0 tdi I presume? Like the look of those
@@GeoffBuysCars Yes it was . 2.0 143 bhp.
At the current (high) prices for electricity, £30 would get you 88kwh of charge, which for the current most efficient electric cars (Tesla/fiat500) gets you 4.5 miles per kWh. Meaning your £30 got you 200 miles in a reasonably efficient diesel car or 400 miles in an electric car. So not exactly sticking it to the leccy cars at all.
The elephant in the room... purchase price. I paid £1500 for the Mondeo.
Wouldn't the dirty pollution heavier than air from running around Bristol simply blow into Bristol with the wind lol .
Kinda like using mustard gas in WW1 only if the wind was blowing to the enemy .
Yes.
same engine as a x-type 2.2 diesel. I cold get 60mpg out of mine
Wow, those back roads would be interesting with a caravan in tow.
If I remember right I used to sit in slow lane on motorway behind lorries, S-max 1.8d sure I got around 700miles on tank, no idea on tank size or what actual mpg was, it's how you drive, I've tried the tyre pressure crap, folding mirrors in on HRV, non worked, driving with foot least possible on accelerator is key, soon as you go over 65/70mph your using far more fuel
Years ago I read a study on aerodynamics and the conclusion for vehicles was forty three mph, after that aerodynamics become an increasingly larger factor, which is why a bus purely for city work can be a box yet a coach on a motorway needs all the aerodynamic help it can get.
I get 40 plus MPG in my Citroen Dispatch 1.6 work van just driving around town between calls, van loaded with tools and spares and a ladder on the top. I fill up once a week and never panic that I'm not going to get to my next customer and have to beg for a top up of juice to keep me running #clownworld
I’ve just done a 630 mile round trip on Sunday,my 1998 Volvo v70 done it on a tank full,fuel gauge was just hovering above the red,impossible to do this trip in a ev
Don't think it ever will be possible either. I think they key is electric motorcycles with a sliding out battery with a handle on the top. And standardisation across all vehicles. Maybe it could take 2 and you only picked up a second battery if you needed to go further. You could just get them from automated vending machines.
Which engine is your 98 V70, TDI..?
I'll play! Please provide journey points and I'll tell you what that would look like in an EV and whether it's possible. :)
@@GeoffBuysCars its a TD,with 179500 miles on the clock,went from Paignton in Devon up to Blackpool,which is 301 miles plus another 28 miles running about up there as picked up a soft top for a freelander and couldn’t resist a couple of hours in Blackpool taking in the sights than a non stop run back to Paignton,(301 miles)so total miles 630,car didn’t miss a beat,paid £600 for Volvo 3 years ago,money well spent 😊
@@HOMEHUBBY2 Plotted on ABRP, 600 miles, 10 hours 8 mins, 2 charges en route for a total of 1 hour 1 minute.
Not seeing a major problem there.
Geoff you should join anti ulez groups.. good advertising business for you and many gullible people need your expertise as still think Khan acting on his own
I'm all over them :)
At 3:33, how come everyone is doing the same thing? Does Google maps auto re-route or something?
I think it’s just a known alternative run because it’s not actually easy to bypass Bristol if you’re going from North towards Somerset / West side of Bristol
@@GeoffBuysCars oohhhh gotcha, I just didn't know if Google did it automatically, like how you can avoid tolls, would be ideal 😅 I'm not sure how I always avoid Birminghams tbh
Long live the diesel devil’s fuel
Skoda Fabia 1'5TDi, steady 65/70mph motorway,65mpg
Small cars with relatively large diesel engines for their size are epic.
So much life left in these cars and we have got to get rid of them because of ULEZ . I replaced mine with a petrol car which is dirtier than my previous immaculate 2014 Kia CEED diesel apart from e bit more Nox and calculated that it's going to cost me around £40 more every 500 miles .
My old C270 CDI averaged mid 40’s and high 50’s on motorway runs. My current CLK 320 petrol averages low 20’s and 30 on a run. Brutal!
They will charge all cars per mile in London before long, I know it isn’t always possible but I would consider moving out of London if you value driving.
Oh and Bristol clean air zone just traps us from the south of Bristol from accessing the motorway network to the North. We can't use the main trunk roads though Bristol without playing again to use roads we've already paid to build, upgrade and still pay to maintain. I don't want to drive though Bristol, but that is the way the main road was routed. If anythng the main trunk roads though should be excluded from the zone. I had no interest in visiting Bristol before and even less now. The only shops you need are toolstation, screwfix and wickes. Everything else is delivered. Town centres are best avoided, their a bit like a 1980s computer game where you have to avoid being seen by the camera that's trying to fine you.
Great comment
I got an extra 20 mpg from blanking off egr valve
I thought blanking off the egr made mpg worse. You waste vapour that is still combustible.
No
@@justinsharpe1981 I'm getting 60mpg from a 2 litre PSA engine DPF and egr still in place. That's good enough for me.
@@chrishart8548 That’s really good! You would probably get 100mpg without the dpf and egr valve
73mpg I was getting on my Mondeo st 2.2 TDCI After blanking the egr with an old penny
My Mondeo TDCi used to get 60+mpg when cruising at 60 mph...
So how come the newer Diesel and petrol cars aren't better mpg? I mean all this technology and how much better are the in 2020's yet old petrol cars in 90s that do 50+ mpg and diesels that do 60+ and MK1 Honda insight I've seen people claim 100+
Shitreon Van at work if I drove more careful mid 50s mpg I reckon, next they'll be telling us we live longer these days but I hear of people that used to live to 180
Part of the difference is the result of weight gained due to added safety features etc. Tires are wider too.
@@NegativeNumbers427 true, we aren't getting anywhere are we if they can't improve things, people would be surprised how good mpg then can get if drive carefully
Also, manufacturers haven’t been incentivised to prioritise MPG.... they think we want tech and safety and ‘style’ instead
My fpv gt only gets 23 mpg………
But then again it’s a 315 kw 5.5litre quad cam 32v vvt v8 in a family car. Hehe
Kinda normal for us aussies.
59mpg at about 60 mph on 2012 Zafira B 1.7 cdti. Cornwall to Bristol. That's what the on board instruments read 🙃
That's about right if the road is flat hills drop the mpg a fair bit. It is good for mpg going 60mph instead of 70mph.
@@chrishart8548
Mind you, I did have to floor it a couple of times because of some erratic drivers not keeping steady speed and those dangerous drivers you'd rather that they're behind you than in front.
It amazes me that instead of improving on already existing and good technology (diesel) they went to EV. Imagine how good modern diesels could be with a lightweight car and less cylinders. We'd be getting 100mpg!
@@GeoffBuysCars oh yeh, that made me think about engine mapping. I wonder if they really do wonders for improvement on hp and mpg as some state. That would be mental. Don't tell the insurance company!, 😳
@@daizyflower272 most of the time I prefer the dangerous drivers in front. I just slow down and let them carry on. No way I want them rear ending me. I like it when know one is behind me.
i must say being an older chap i find it very sad that this is what our country has come to , to put mildly i am ashamed of the people for allowing this utter stupidity thats going on in councils and politicians drive to destroy your environment , at one time we were proud people , you wanted to see good things and clean places but now it just seems like nobody gives a damn about anyone else , this is the conscequence of greed and selfishness nothing more and you all voted for this didn't you ?
This is bigger than politics alone. 10+ years of Tory government on top of a Labour government that was actually just Tories with a red tie... the rot set in many years ago
Just think if it was petrol and running half price LPG.
CNG can put in Diesel i believe.
My T5 is LPG, need to get it working.
Urban or motorway ?..constant 60mph one trip and 70mph the second (for comparison).
Everything drinks fuel at 70mph.