Maybe Slugo was such a disaster that it lead to rules against this sort of thing. Yeah, my head canon is Hoshi completely devastated the ecosystem of that planet.
Yes, this is what struck me when I saw this episode. These humans with so much experience on their own planet moving life forms around and causing devastation were pretty cavalier about relocating Sluggo. Maybe they just didn't talk about the study Phlox did about the species' reproduction and how he determined that parthenogenesis or other asexual reproduction wasn't possible, but it seems like a big problem.
Just wait for Sluggo to pupate and turn into a massively destructive Omnivore that devours half the planets native species. Hopefully Sluggo doesn't reproduce asexually and/or isn't already pregnant.
My favorite Hoshi story. There is something so tender and loving about her demeanor when she releases Sluggo. The actress communicates this so well, nonverbally. I just wanted to start hugging...
I concur. I vividly remember seeing this episode when it first aired and being very happy to see an exploration of the implications of pre-TOS tech. This was about cutting their teeth, delivering on the promise of what the show was to be. Sadly, it only took a few episodes for them to have functioning phasers, transporters, perfectly intelligible UTs, etc. They really only spent a few minutes on the development of each tech (e.g. one guy who gets a few leaves sticking out of his skin from a transporter accident but was fine), which I have always seen as both a lack of imagination and a sorely missed opportunity.
Hoshi always felt like she was so much more interesting than she ever got the chance to be, especially since her focus episodes just entirely dried up just as the show developed its own identity in seasons 3 and 4. Just never quite got her chance to shine. But it does make me appreciate this episode that much more in retrospect.
@@euansmith3699 We obviously don't know much about the slug into the enterprise episode, so we can't speculate all that much. Look into the very real process of parthenogenesis. No fertilization required! If this fictional slug could reproduce this way, the whole planet could be covered in them. But they would all be clones of Slugo.
Though it's been a very long time since I've seen this I think this is what cemented my belief that this series had a lot of potential, that struggle to get tech to work, having to actually translate stuff, knowing very little of what's there and often not having much help around the corner if they do, made it a very fun space exploration show. I didn't manage to keep up with it, and I guess I learned way after the fact that things got away from them, similar in my opinion to how Voyager's premise got its sharp edges dulled all too quickly.
I think the metaphor is a bit more elegant than you realized. The slug was taken from its home, and now finds that it must adapt to a new home. From what I remember, Hoshi was kind of strong-armed into joining the enterprise through pride. Thus, she was taken from her home and now must adapt to the new home that is the enterprise. In the pilot archer said you don’t have to come along, but we’re going to fail if you don’t, and then in this episode, he again says sure you don’t have to talk to them but we’re going to die if you don’t.
So true about the pilot episode. She kept telling Archer no, be he kept pressing until he pressed the right buttons. I was somewhat surprised he wanted someone on his ship that totally did not want to be there.
So that's where Sluggo Cola came from, Hoshi letting it go to invade and over-populate that random planet! Later some Ferengi privateers would find that world, rescue it from ecological disaster in the process and fix yet another planetary disaster caused by Archer!
lol Just rewatched this yesterday. After finishing Picard season 3 (or was that TNG S6?) three days ago I decided to rewatch everything in "in-universe" order, including the films. Now, gimme a pro-tato.
We're gonna see a ton of tragedies undone by heroic sacrifice and technobabble next week. I'm looking forward to it, and hoping to see VOY: Year of Hell.
I also took this Episode as a Response from the creators of ENT responding to blowback from the fans, that "yeah it is slow and not good now, but give it some time!" .... but this could be projection on my part.
Firefly did episodes like this, but the difference was the characters were well designed and the dialogue was a crackled with wit and insight. Enterprise lacks that throughout the majority of what I've seen of it. The characters are barely interesting and this episode is the epitome of the series' ongoing problem. It's also a retread of Voyager's first season episode, "The Cloud". That episode is also a day in the life of the crew, but that episode had the characters doing and saying interesting things and the title premise is halfway interesting. Enterprise is mainly the characters dicking around for the first two seasons, the third season doing their season long version of "Year of Hell" from Voyager and ends with a cop-out reset, and the fourth season, while BIG LEAGUE fan service-y really is where the series should have started. It's the first Trek series that I never felt compelled by, and that is saying someone who adores the franchise.
I am surprised that Tpol stayed on Enterprise after Captain Squeaky dragged whole crew into danger despite everyone warning him about the thing that ended up happening..while the ship cant even shoot straight. Humans barely even know their neighborhood and this guy thinks they will just call the alien cops from other ships when they dont even know the language or if there even is any authority to solve this.
It occurs to me that if Discovery had been made instead of Enterprise at that time it might have been much more popular, and the more formulaic Ent may be more popular today for some of the reasons that SNW is. It's a shame that both of those shows seem to have missed their marks.
The network didn't want it to be different. They wanted the tech to work the way it always did, and the species we were used to seeing and boy bands in the mess hall. 🙄 The show could have been so much more than it was.
I know I'm a really big Star Trek fan because I never gave a damn about any of the characters on Enterprise but I still tuned in, hoping only for a good sci-fi story and not expecting good character development. I felt like every character was some kind of combination of naive, arrogant, insecure, or just plain unlikeable. I've been disappointed a lot lately, but except for Star Trek Picard, just being Star Trek is often enough.
@@fearisthemind-killer I feel like Jolene got a bad rap because it's pretty clear that she was directed (and written) to act like an actual brick wall. Yes, she's a Vulcan, but damn.
Criticizing Star Trek for its woke, woke, wokity, woke stuff is why I subscribed to this channel. I knew that Steve was MAGA (Make Andromeda Great Again). How do I know this? I make it up as I go. I liked this episode. Kidnapping the slug from its home and transplanting it should have been a huge no-no.
Now Slugo is an invasive species on that planet.
Maybe Slugo was such a disaster that it lead to rules against this sort of thing. Yeah, my head canon is Hoshi completely devastated the ecosystem of that planet.
Right?? 😂
Yes, this is what struck me when I saw this episode. These humans with so much experience on their own planet moving life forms around and causing devastation were pretty cavalier about relocating Sluggo. Maybe they just didn't talk about the study Phlox did about the species' reproduction and how he determined that parthenogenesis or other asexual reproduction wasn't possible, but it seems like a big problem.
Radiation causes Slugo to mutate in to Starro; hijinks and genocide ensue
Just wait for Sluggo to pupate and turn into a massively destructive Omnivore that devours half the planets native species.
Hopefully Sluggo doesn't reproduce asexually and/or isn't already pregnant.
My favorite Hoshi story. There is something so tender and loving about her demeanor when she releases Sluggo. The actress communicates this so well, nonverbally. I just wanted to start hugging...
It’s a shame slug-o would be captured by Ferengi and turned into a soft drink. Such is life I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Applause for the Y.C.D.T.O.T.V reference. Nice one Steve. 😂
I concur. I vividly remember seeing this episode when it first aired and being very happy to see an exploration of the implications of pre-TOS tech. This was about cutting their teeth, delivering on the promise of what the show was to be. Sadly, it only took a few episodes for them to have functioning phasers, transporters, perfectly intelligible UTs, etc. They really only spent a few minutes on the development of each tech (e.g. one guy who gets a few leaves sticking out of his skin from a transporter accident but was fine), which I have always seen as both a lack of imagination and a sorely missed opportunity.
Eventually, the Ferengi find the planet where slugo got dropped off and invent Slugo-cola.
Hoshi always felt like she was so much more interesting than she ever got the chance to be, especially since her focus episodes just entirely dried up just as the show developed its own identity in seasons 3 and 4. Just never quite got her chance to shine.
But it does make me appreciate this episode that much more in retrospect.
Need the follow up episode in Strange New Worlds showing the ecologically destroyed planet that Hoshi caused by leaving Sluggo on it
To be fair, unless it can hybridize with local slugs, 1 slug likely cannot produce a viable population to cause that. lol
@@1reefshark or without any natural predators, Sluggo is virtually immortal and grows to Kaiju size
@@1reefsharkit can if it reproduces asexually.
@@NHT2 Don't you still need two slugs, for them to fertilize each other? Although, this is an alien slug, I guess.
@@euansmith3699 We obviously don't know much about the slug into the enterprise episode, so we can't speculate all that much. Look into the very real process of parthenogenesis. No fertilization required! If this fictional slug could reproduce this way, the whole planet could be covered in them. But they would all be clones of Slugo.
Though it's been a very long time since I've seen this I think this is what cemented my belief that this series had a lot of potential, that struggle to get tech to work, having to actually translate stuff, knowing very little of what's there and often not having much help around the corner if they do, made it a very fun space exploration show. I didn't manage to keep up with it, and I guess I learned way after the fact that things got away from them, similar in my opinion to how Voyager's premise got its sharp edges dulled all too quickly.
ENT and TNG remain my two favorite franchises. ENT was ended much too early for me.
I think the metaphor is a bit more elegant than you realized. The slug was taken from its home, and now finds that it must adapt to a new home. From what I remember, Hoshi was kind of strong-armed into joining the enterprise through pride. Thus, she was taken from her home and now must adapt to the new home that is the enterprise.
In the pilot archer said you don’t have to come along, but we’re going to fail if you don’t, and then in this episode, he again says sure you don’t have to talk to them but we’re going to die if you don’t.
So true about the pilot episode. She kept telling Archer no, be he kept pressing until he pressed the right buttons. I was somewhat surprised he wanted someone on his ship that totally did not want to be there.
Fair assessment. I guess ENT is a show we could agree on.
I watch this yesterday and BOOM you review it.
Those who can't do, teach!!! Gawd i love enterprise SOOO MUCH 💛💛💛
So that's where Sluggo Cola came from, Hoshi letting it go to invade and over-populate that random planet! Later some Ferengi privateers would find that world, rescue it from ecological disaster in the process and fix yet another planetary disaster caused by Archer!
lol Just rewatched this yesterday. After finishing Picard season 3 (or was that TNG S6?) three days ago I decided to rewatch everything in "in-universe" order, including the films.
Now, gimme a pro-tato.
Note on closed captions at about 13:49 the director's name is given as "Allen Kroeker" but an on-line search suggests his first name is spelt "Allan".
4:26 -- the only appropriate answer: "I don't know!"
😂😂😂 One problem about Star Trek, the Captains ALWAYS places the ship and crew in peril.
How else are you going to save the day if there is not a day to be saved? Lol.
We're gonna see a ton of tragedies undone by heroic sacrifice and technobabble next week. I'm looking forward to it, and hoping to see VOY: Year of Hell.
I see that subscriber count rising. I like the looks of that!
I watched the whole series including the pilot..Very underestimated version in the star trek dynasty..
I also took this Episode as a Response from the creators of ENT responding to blowback from the fans, that "yeah it is slow and not good now, but give it some time!" .... but this could be projection on my part.
Steve is such nice company.
In absolute fairness to Voyager's second episode, Belanna is probably the Voyager character everyone cares about the most behind Seven.
She is definitely high up on the list.
Firefly did episodes like this, but the difference was the characters were well designed and the dialogue was a crackled with wit and insight. Enterprise lacks that throughout the majority of what I've seen of it. The characters are barely interesting and this episode is the epitome of the series' ongoing problem. It's also a retread of Voyager's first season episode, "The Cloud". That episode is also a day in the life of the crew, but that episode had the characters doing and saying interesting things and the title premise is halfway interesting. Enterprise is mainly the characters dicking around for the first two seasons, the third season doing their season long version of "Year of Hell" from Voyager and ends with a cop-out reset, and the fourth season, while BIG LEAGUE fan service-y really is where the series should have started. It's the first Trek series that I never felt compelled by, and that is saying someone who adores the franchise.
I planted some potatoes in this special dirt and they came up all weeeeeeeiirrrdddd!
Slugo being an alien animal is hard to buy when you can tell its exact species if you know what you're looking for.
It's like all those planets that look like southern California.
Thanks
I am surprised that Tpol stayed on Enterprise after Captain Squeaky dragged whole crew into danger despite everyone warning him about the thing that ended up happening..while the ship cant even shoot straight.
Humans barely even know their neighborhood and this guy thinks they will just call the alien cops from other ships when they dont even know the language or if there even is any authority to solve this.
Thanks! I think It's a good horror episode and enterprise didn't do horror very much.
It occurs to me that if Discovery had been made instead of Enterprise at that time it might have been much more popular, and the more formulaic Ent may be more popular today for some of the reasons that SNW is. It's a shame that both of those shows seem to have missed their marks.
Ooh! Ooh! Steve, will TNG"s "Cause and Effect" and VGR's "Timeless" be in the line-up?
Great stuff bruv...😊
sluggo either is an invader in that planet...
or a slug-gonner
4:25 well I don't know...oh no
"The Office" in Star Trek.
I liked this episode at the time. After a bungled pilot, this one gave me hope that this new show would become something great (spoiler: it didn't).
Ah yes, when Enterprise still had a chance to be something different.
The network didn't want it to be different. They wanted the tech to work the way it always did, and the species we were used to seeing and boy bands in the mess hall. 🙄 The show could have been so much more than it was.
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I know I'm a really big Star Trek fan because I never gave a damn about any of the characters on Enterprise but I still tuned in, hoping only for a good sci-fi story and not expecting good character development. I felt like every character was some kind of combination of naive, arrogant, insecure, or just plain unlikeable. I've been disappointed a lot lately, but except for Star Trek Picard, just being Star Trek is often enough.
T'Pol really got good in the final two seasons. When I watch the first season now, it's pretty jarring to see how she was in the beginning.
@@fearisthemind-killer I feel like Jolene got a bad rap because it's pretty clear that she was directed (and written) to act like an actual brick wall. Yes, she's a Vulcan, but damn.
Criticizing Star Trek for its woke, woke, wokity, woke stuff is why I subscribed to this channel. I knew that Steve was MAGA (Make Andromeda Great Again). How do I know this? I make it up as I go.
I liked this episode. Kidnapping the slug from its home and transplanting it should have been a huge no-no.
So not a Coco Nono, but a Sluggo No no.😉