Kiara was shocked that Raora called Mori instead of Calli [Hololive EN]
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【⇊ Original Stream ⇊】
【ITALIAN LESSON】Italian for Beginners: Class Starts Now!!! w/ Kiara! 🇮🇹
• 【ITALIAN LESSON】Italia...
【 ⇊Talent EN⇊】
Gawr Gura Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @gawrgura
Mori Calliope Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @moricalliope
Takanashi Kiara Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @takanashikiara
Ninomae Ina'nis Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @ninomaeinanis
Amelia Watson Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @watsonamelia
IRyS Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @irys
Nanashi Mumei Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @nanashimumei
Ceres Fauna Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @ceresfauna
Ouro Kronii Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @ourokronii
Hakos Baelz Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @hakosbaelz
Shiori Novella Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @shiorinovella
Koseki Bijou Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @kosekibijou
Nerissa Ravencroft Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @nerissaravencroft
FUWAMOCO Ch. Hololive-EN
/ @fuwamococh
Elizabeth Rose Bloodflame Ch. hololive-EN
/ @holoen_erbloodflame
Gigi Murin Ch. hololive-EN
/ @holoen_gigimurin
Cecilia Immergreen Ch. hololive-EN
/ @holoen_ceciliaimmergreen
Raora Panthera Ch. hololive-EN
/ @holoen_raorapanthera
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Most ppl call her Calli or Mori, then there's Gura, who goes Calliope Morrison
I could imagine Gigi going with Maurice or something similar.
Calliope Forest
Kawaiiopeee cuuuuute~
Dad!
same Hakos Baelzu energy😂
0:24 ear sync
it's fckn cute wtf 😩
A blessing
"Callie is cuter..."
"....I like Mori."
Kiara: Wait why do you call her Mori
Raora: Well when the moon hits your eyes like a big pizza pie, That's a Mori
Kiara and Raora have unexpectedly great chemistry apparently, fun sesh
the EU brain connection, also Kiara got great chemistry with everyone tbh
@@Toby_Taro I feel like Raora is turning out the same way. She just has good vibes
Both are socially friendly (don't know better term) can get along well with everyone
@@goztboy Raora was a great Hololive fan before becoming a talent, and she's very social. Collabs make her happy.
The Italian and the German have always gotten along well **wink wink**
When the moon hits your eye, like a big pizza pie, that’s…a-Mori.
I love the little simple assets like the hand that holds the stick.
kiara: "Calli is cuter"
Calli: 😳
Raora: "i like mori"
Mori: 😳
@@Momoyon “Are you winning, Dad?”
This was cute! I loved Raora yelling out "I'm a fan!"
When the moon hits your eye
Like a big pizza pie, that’s a Mori~
Calli started calling herself Mori instead of Calli like a year ago IIRC, so understandable
Did she ever explain why she did that? I remember her doing it and it’s still jarring to me whenever I hear mori
I don't remember a time when she didn't call herself Mori. I think she personally uses Mori so she doesn't mix things up in her real life. Calling herself Calli while all her friends call her Calli would make it easy for her to accidentally slip in a Calli in her day to day life. Calling herself Mori makes that a little less likely, I think.
@@justadudeonlineI remember she said that cover didn't like her introducing herself as calliope Mori in official Japanese business like interviews and such for branding so she started saying Mori calliope and calling herself Mori to break the habit
@@ThePontiffofPonWolf More like they don't like her flip-flopping and alternating between them/saying "just call me whatever". They want consistency.
@@lucklessluke1713 ah same idea
i just remember Calli’s intro song where Calli goes “that’s a mori” and Raora goes “that’s a mori?” lol
I know raora only added glasses and stick to her but my goodness.
Something's awakening in me
Hello fellow cultured person.
She _does_ say "I'm your Mori"
I mean she says that because she's our "Death".
@@BreathlessBreathingwell, she hasn't killed me yet.
My water gun is full, and I'm not going quiet🔫
Mori is Latin for death whereas iirc Calliope is Greek. She’s just gravitating to the language of her people.
Raora with glasses is..... Wife material
Raora without glasses is also wife materals
Those two together make up all the forms of Raora so in conclusion, Raora is always wife material
I think it just flows better if you say 'Mori-senpai'
0:10 That was a _very_ German pronunciation there xD
Accidental Ich bin
god I can't wait for Calli's brain to fry if Raora and Kiara are in a collab going back and forth on Mori and Calli
I've seen a lot of the JP members call her Mori. But the ones that know her do say Calli or Calliope. I've seen Ollie call her Mori a few times too.
Raora is so cute, truly a fluffy kittycat.
Calli calls herself Mori often enough that I think of her both ways.
And JP's member call her Calliope
☄️
Kiara, you’re the only one who calls Bae Baelz seriously.
And there's biboo's and bae's thing calling each other their full names
doesn't shiori also call her mori or mori senpai a lot of the time too?
i call calli calli, but i also wouldn't mind calling mori mori.
Yep, you usually only hear her being called Mori by herself in her lyrics, or when she interacts with fans.
Even the JP girls call her by the full "Calliope".
calli moriope
Its a me Moooori Calliopeee
That’s a-mori🤌
“It’s-a-me, Morio! WA-WA-WA-WAHOO!”
-Calli, when she does the BLJ up the stairs in Morio 64
Kawaiope morison
While I'm used to calling Calli "Calli", I do honestly prefer Mori since it is her first name, and pretty much fits her theme. Then again, I also usually call her "dad" and "reaps".
"Calli" is really just her last name shortened lol.
Doesn't Calli herself call herself Mori from time to time?
When she refers to herself, yes. Its your boy mori here.
@@kylewood4488-b9r I think since getting signed to UMJ back in 2022 she had started referring to herself as Mori almost exclusively.
Kiara is the most cringe member in Myth but for some odd reason she thinks she's the coolest. She thinks she knows all the memes but she's German tsk tsk. She really needs to humble herself fr fr.
@@EniscenYou are watching Vtubers, you ain't cool either.
@@Eniscen , that's a clear sign for you to get up from your chair, get out from your house and touch some grass...
Kiara call her "calli"
Raora call her "mori"
Kobo call her "uncle dad"
We call her "dad"
That's a-Mori
She should’ve made her pointer with the 🤌
Kawaiiope Moririn~
mori mori amore
Calliope is a Greek name, and Mori comes from the roman word mori which means death, and I think the Italian word is Morte.
You would be correct
Firstly, I do think it's a very good reasoning since she is a Reaper by lore so she's associated with death; things do fit. Just that her Mori on the official talent page is written with the Japanese Kanji for Forest
@@skythz85Which _might_ be related to the suicide forest maybe? I know that's a thing... unfortunately
M o r t i s.
Mort is pretty cool
I love Mori.
Kawaiiope Mowi
Mori, pronounced “Maury”.
"The results are in......."
"You are NOT THE FATHER of Little Timmy over there".
Does celebratory dance and backflip*
Calliope is a first name, so it makes sense that people call her “Calli” and not “Mori”
However, since the JP came up with the name for her, I honestly don’t know which name they intended to be the first or last. 🤷♂️
Mori is the family name, that's why in JP projects it goes first.
And from how she refers to the two sides of her family as the Mori side and the Reaper side
For Myth and CouncilRyS/Promise they used Japanese name order across the board (hence the rather silly "Watson Amelia" used in official contexts).
However, starting with Advent they now seem to use whichever name order is appropriate. So far, out of Advent and Justice only Biboo uses Japanese name order (Koseki Bijou), even though Shiori also has one name of Japanese origin; in her case it's her given name while Biboo's is her family name. However, Shiori's name in Japanese is written with all katakana and an interpunct to separate the names (シオリ・ノヴェラ) which is the typical style for foreign names while Biboo's uses kanji for her family name and no interpunct (古石ビジュー).
@@HandoruKiipa And all Justice use the western order.
We call her Dad.
To be fair Mori is probably a whole lot more natural sounding for speakers of romantic languages than Callie which i can't ever recall hearing something like that in Spanish.
wow, now i'm self conscious
Calliope is greek, which isn't romantic, but close.
@@GetterRay ohh did not know cool!
@@ashenith in what way lol
Weird, I feel like I can say Calliope in my best fake Italian accent much easier than Mori.
Kyalli
I call her Calli cause her genmates and most of her EN and ID friends call her Calli. Seems more friendly and like Kiara said, “cuter” lol
Most call her Calli, cause it is her first name
I was shocked when they dont call her Dad 😂
Most people call her Calli. The only place I’ve seen where Mori is more often used is on 4chan.
Calli calls herself Mori.
Kobo: Uncle dad 😊
Mori with an accent on the I in spanish is like saying "I died" lol
"memento mori" in Latin, "mind you have to die".
What a cute beeg cat 😅
To me Mori feels more natural
We call her dad
I've always wondered about this because her nickname of Calli comes from the JP pronunciation of Calliope rather than the english, but Mori herself never introduces herself with the JP pronunciation, and she says things like "its your Mori" etc so it amazes me that she is universally called Calli among holomem outside of the occasional "Mori-chan" from JP senpai. I always think of her as Mori because that's her first name
I believe that the reason why most people call her Calli instead of Mori is because Calliope is actually her first name. The channel name is written as Mori Calliope because it's in the japanese format of surname first. So calling her Mori feels a bit too formal (at least for me) because it's calling her by her surname. So I go with Calli instead, since it's a cute nickname based on her first name. But either is fine, and in fact she might even prefer Mori, seeing as she refers to herself as "Mori" a lot more than as "Calli".
Also, "Calli/Callie" is the English diminutive of "Calliope".
Uncle dad
from what i've seen almost everyone calls her Calli, with the second major group calling her Dad LMAO
Mori feels very formal
Moriope Kali
Calli Moriope
And what about Ope? Oh, that's Nerissa...
Well using the last name only is common in Japan, in combination with honorifics most of the time. It's usually done with people one doesn't know well. In my country last names are never used, not even to towards one's boss or teacher.
I call her OPE
The mori Calliope fandom in a nutshell.
I call her Calli/Dad, I'm in a fan discord group and everyone calls her Calli
But I did hear somebody say Mori at a comic con, I was looking at Holo merch in artist alley and some random guy next to me chatting with friends and he used Mori
I feel like, at least on Twitter, I've seen more haters call her Mori, while fans tend to use Calli. Personally, I still don't know which one is her given name and which is the family name.
Her given name is Calliope, often shortened to ‘Calli’, and her family name is Mori.
@@SimplySwayzeOther way around. Myth follows JP name structure. Gawr Gura -> Gura, Takanashi Kiara -> Kiara, etc
@@SirKrisX Yes and her name is Mori Calliope, that means family name Mori, given name Calliope
On Discord it's split. The 'official' Discord calls her Calli while the unofficial one calls her Mori.
@@SirKrisX Wouldn't that mean Mori is her last name then?
Raora 🙂
I need to know, because it's been bugging me, but which one is her first name, Mori or Calliope?
Yes
Calliope is the first name.
Calliope. The names of Hololive Talents are writen in Japanese way; Surname, Name. Takanashi Kiara, Mori Calliope, Nanashi Mumei, etc.
@@gildedphoenix Except when they aren't, like Aki and Jurard for some reason.
Myth and Promise have their names written the Japanese way. In Advent and Justice only Bijou has hers written the JP way while the others have it the western way.
Don't we just call her dad
UNCLE DAD!!
Ah, Kiara should Call her Panthera-chan then 😂
Or Pante maybe 🤣
Yes, referring to people by their family name is weird, *Mori is her family name*. Calliope is her firstname or given name
hahahaha cute
Plot Twist: Raora frequents /Morig/ that's why she only calls her Mori
Would be 0% surprised tbqhwyphamalamborghini
hologta morii
Yeah, that make sense. Her name is Mori then Calliope.
Calli from cutting the Calliope is more strange than just call her Mori the sorts one.
Dayum, I just thought about it and it make sense. Raora is cookin right now 😂
Nah it's just reversed because of Japanese like all the other names. Kiara introduces herself as Takanashi Kiara, but she doesn't call herself Takanashi, nor does anyone else. Gooba, too. No one calls her Gawr. The given name is the second one, surname is first. Ouro Kronii, Ceres Fauna, Koseki Bijou, etc. There's only a few that do the western way of putting the given name first.
@@SuperDuper507 that's just mean Raora and me is not Japanese then 😂🤣
As you said, because Japanese. So it's make sense for Raora to have that Logic.
And if we use the Japanese one, People would call her Panthera-chan then, huh.... 🤣🤣🤣
@@SuperDuper507 the Justice girl is just not that then huh. Because, let's see, we gonna have Panthera-chan, Immergreen-san, Murin-chan, and Rose-san or Blood-san.
The Japanese reverse logic ain't universal for hologirls I guess.
@@thetcaseaway4306 You are extrapolating when the extrapolation is purely assumption. Each member outside of JP has no fixed given-surename position. Just believe each person which is which. And if we're talking properly, surename should be with -san.
It would get worse with ID. ID has no widespread concept of surename. Some community/tribe does, but most don't. So their name is just ... name. Call them what they want/allow to be called (which I think the best way to deal with in any situation anyway).
Calliope is her given name, Mori is her family name
Tbh, I like Mori more than Calli
I don't like calling her Mori, it feels awkward to use the last name.
I think the last name/first name confusion of the Japanese order is the reason why Mori caught on.
Her name is often written as Mori Calliope, so many casual fans probably thought that Mori is her first name.
And Japanese is more flexible about which name you use. First name basis exists there as well, but using someone's last name is not automatically as distant as it is in English.
@@T33K3SS3LCH3N Could be. Calliope is a perfectly reasonable first name to me so I didn't think of it this way.
I like it fine, but it sounds like either "shit talking with the bros" or "in trouble."
Like, "Yo Mori, get good, scrub" or "Mori. What did you do, Mori?"
Calliope is actually a first name in the western world, so it makes sense to call her “Calli”
@@TheMan21892Plus there's other names that get shortened to Calli.
Its calli-nee or mori-neechan 4 me
I don’t even know which is her first name
Calliope
@@khestal noted
There's no real rules in Holo for name order on the talents but for Calli, it's specifically for her branding as a musical Artist in japan that they keep her name ordered like that
@@ZalYagunRyai They used to follow the Japanese naming convention (given name following family name) hence why everyone in Myth and Council/Promise follows it, but starting with Advent they started basing it on whether the family name is Japanese or not (everyone in Advent other than Biboo for example). So if Ame were to debut today she would officially be named Amelia Watson rather than Watson Amelia.
@@goztboyTo be fair, most people called Ame in first name last name order anyways.
Including and especially herself.
Unless you're Calli and insist on calling her Watson a majority of the time
Siel you call her Calli too.
Raora takes /vt/ lingo as standard, Kiara tries to specifically avoid it
wtf is vt lingo
@@kadokawa8466 Nothing, don’t worry about it
@@kadokawa8466 don't worry about it m8
@kadokawa8466 Nothing important, it's just 4chan.
You can start to differentiate the generation of Holo Fan based on what they call Calli. When Holo updated their website a while back and changed her name to the Japanese way of being written as well as her UMJ signing she uses Mori more, and as is her sign off, but if you’ve been there from debut you know she’ll always be Calli ❤️
you are totally wrong.
Been here since she debuted, always called her Mori because she used to end her streams saying "I'm your Mori I hope you remember me." and then she'd yell PEACE
@@Arantiuss That's the thing, though. At the beginning, she's always called Calli by both fans and holomems. Even JP members call her either "Calliope" or "Calli".
As far as I could tell, Shiori was the first holomem to refer to her as "Mori".
vt goes by mori exclusively since before it was even vt, so wrong
@rikterterran3833 nah, the Indonesian gen 2 girls also called her Mori-senpai. Also after debut for the first few months Her fanbase was very split between calling her Mori and calli. You tell this by just checking her chat and comments from those early streams. It is only in clips and on Twitter that Calli dominated early on.
I call her DAD
You call her dad, but its daddy when your in trouble and she has the whip...😂 Sorry
Who is Mori
Maury?
Werid way to pronounce Dad. 🤔
As a fan I like to call her "Dad"
Why are likes hidden? A glitch?
The only times I only see people call her Mori are people from that viernamese water basket weaving forum, otherwise regular people call ger Calli.
Seriously why did Kiara say it like that to Raora, you could tell for a little while Raora was almost embarrassed. Why does it matter to Kiara that different people use different names/nicknames? I personally use Calli, but wouldn't scoff at someone using Mori like that.
Dude you dont know them chill out
Theyre just having casual banter and poking fun at eachother- its not that deep
Kiara says what's on her mind with little filter, it's fine
It’s not that serious man. She just pointed out something that was surprising to her. It’s just casual banter between friends and you can tell Raora is alright.
Do you want a tissue for your tears, man?
do you come from Kami Clips? or why be so anti-Kiara over some non-issue?
I call her Mori more than I call her Calli. Kiara proving again that she's not based. Stop thinking you're the "standard" Kiara jeez.
I'd say more Holo fans call her Calli. I think barely any Holo fan referred to her as Mori until she started referring to herself as such back on 2022, when she got signed to UMJ.
Stop crying, your insecurity is showing
And you think you are the standard?
Your bias is showing.
Least obvious rage baiter. Not a master baiter at all man. You gotta up your game.
Mori doesn't sound good. She should call her Calli
Name shaming is frowned upon.
Calli calls herself Mori.
I've never seen anyone call her Mori. Only Calli and Calliope and Dad. Or use the full name, Mori Calliope/Calliope Mori. But not just Mori.
But hey, "Calli, Mori, girl, she's unforgettable... Daisy Dukes, bikini on top..." @Over_Powar I think made a better one, but mine kinda works?
I think A-chan call her Mori-san or was it someone else?
@@kaijiex3she called her Kariope-san iirc
Gura : Calliope Morrison
It's more of a 4chan thing. She's almost always called Mori by everyone there.