Frustrating Day Of Landings| *Strongly Worded Debrief*
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- During flight training there are days where everything goes right and other days that things don't go as well as we hoped. Today wasn't a bad day by any means, but regaining landing proficiency is easier said than done. JD hasn't flown for over a month so today was all about regaining his composure and getting a feel for landings again.
I don't often become so animated during a debrief, however knowing JD as I do, I gauged that he could use a little kick up the backside! Although we have fun while we fly, we always try to be the best and progress. JD always takes my criticism on board and he tries to make himself better! What a guy!
Enjoy the landings!
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Sorry for the audio quality issue specifically for headphone users. I'm using a new audio setup and am working out the bugs. I fixed it, but not in time for this video. Still give it a like anyway, come on, don't be stingy!
My left ear will give the video a like
Also, maybe there's a way to duplicate the audio to the right channel in your video editor :)
@@thijseggen2880 thanks, yea the issue is fixed in forthcoming videos
@@LewDixAviation sometimes this is fixable afterwards by putting the sound from stereo to mono (at playback). Still a great video! :D
I'd expect this from Cessna pilots....
Wish I had you as my Instructor, keeping the student comfortable with a bit of banter, but not forgetting why you’re there, Teaching 👍
He only accepts instruments students
Aaahhhhhh hahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Im commencing engine start” absolutely hilarious. Just purchased the shirt!
haha Thanks for purchasing!
Need 4XL!!
In flight training you definitely have good and bad days. I think this is something all students have to accept early in their training or they'll end up feeling disheartened and will think they're not progressing. Crosswind circuits are up there with the most challenging and will test you both physically and mentally. Thanks for sharing!
This. Before COVID f'd things up I had some stressful spin training and rough crosswind landings due to poor rudder control that messed me up. One landing I continued when I should have gone around and ended up porpoising. Hard to believe now but it doesn't take long to get into the mindset of getting it down regardless. Thankfully the CFI took the controls, but I was pretty disheartened afterwards. Looking forward to getting back to training.
I'm totally using "remain clear of my propellah!" next startup. 🤣
I kinda miss getting yelled at during crosswind takeoffs and landings lol. Good times.
I know exactly how JD feels. When your instructor tells you, ok aileron correction, make sure you are using that opposite rudder to keep your nose on the center line. You use the aileron, then you start to turn and you use the rudder because it feels f*cked up when you start drifting. If you aren’t doing enough or too much rudder, you feel even more wonky, then you start to get nervous because you know that you’re not doing anything right and you’re close to the ground so now you’re more nervous. Then, you add the component that not only do you want to get it right, but you also want to get it right for your instructor so they don’t think your a complete donut. A lot of shit going on when you are practicing something that you have to nail in seconds. It’s like you know what you need to do, but when you put it together and it doesn’t turn out the same as when the instructor does it you feel even more frustrated and down on yourself. It’s intimidating when you are trying to do something that the person next to you thinks is so easy and you don’t. As a student pilot who doesn’t have hours and hours of experience, it is not yet instinctual to make these corrections. It is nerve racking to be a student sometimes. I really enjoy the way you teach and the fun that you have. I could just see that JD was taxed at the end. For me, it is easy to get in my head and start beating myself up.
Appreciate the videos!
BTW, I received my two new logo LD shirts. Super cool! Can’t wait until it warms up here to show them off!
This is sooo relatable even for getting a driver license. You KNOW what to do, but still do it wrong in the moment. But practice makes perfect!! :)
#Nicole, this is so spot on. As a fellow student, I know we'll "get it" in due course, but jeez, y'know...
I was out of the game for 25 years, but got back into flying 2 years ago. Crosswind correction was tough for me when I started flying again. I just wasn't getting it. For me I relearned like this: Hey I'm in a crab on final, I can't land with my nose pointed 10 deg to the right, I need to straighten it, so apply left rudder. Oh, now I'm drifting to the left, I need to lean right to stop that. I apologize as many instructors teach lean, then rudder, but the opposite just worked for my brain and I've been pretty comfortable with crosswind landings since then.
@@Spray-N-Pray You're not alone, I also kick it straight with rudder then apply aileron.
By far... the best video you've posted to date! The funny thing is this has nothing to do with you (no offense) and everything to do with your student, JD! The most important part of this video was when JD said "you know what... can we make this our last one". I, personally, went through this exact frustration last night (17 Feb). During a two hour night flight (~60 hours into my PPC), I began to get so frustrated on my crappy landings (haven't flown for two 1/2 weeks due to weather cancellations), that I also said "I'm done. Let's head back". There comes a point where the frustration gets to such a level that the student begins to completely block the instructions given by the CFI. I know when I'm in this state because the errors I make begin to accumulate. First time... I'm too high on final. Second time.... air speed too high. Third time.... forgot carb heat. Fourth time.... ****I'm basically calling myself a fu*(*&# idiot!".*****. Kudos to JD for recognizing this and not allowing external pressure, in this case the CFI (no offense) making him continue to push. Sometimes you just need to land; take a day or two to process everything that did, or did not, take place, and then have another go at it. I will say I felt a sense of relief when I heard those words from JD. Glad to know I'm not the only one dealing with this frustration. HUGE thanks to LewDix for posting this video.
Oh yes, for sure! I asked to spend a lesson back in the practice area when circuits were going badly, just to see if II could still fly! I absolutely love learning to fly but am just at the frustrated stage 🙃
Respect to the student pilot for allowing himself to be filmed and putting himself out there for us to learn from
He’s a top man!
This is why I love aviation. People take mistakes and failures head on and thrive from them.
He took my feedback and kicked on in subsequent lessons and nailed it.
You are an incredible flight instructor. I felt bad when you shared the airline news a while back... but have to tell you that this is where you shine!
Thank you for the kind words! I very much enjoy instructing.
My instructor had me fly low passes to practice xwind corrections. By the 2nd and 3rd passes I had it figured out. I have been using this method w my students as long as they are not too ground-shy, it seems to be effective.
Did this once in Ppl training and once during Tailwheel. It's one of the best exercises and should be done more IMO. Add in some drift (left - right, repeat) across the runway while keeping the nose straight for next level rudder and aileron control.
An old time Flight Instructor who learned to fly in the 1940s used to tell me this: “Make the airplane do what you want it to do.” The best advice ever.
My left ear enjoyed this
Nearly every flight before my recent Solo was Cross Wind and I appreciate seeing others struggle too. It honestly makes me feel better when others struggle with the same thing. I just had my first solo flight last week and this channel has been great for me moving forward. I think I'll be purchasing a shirt for my continued training. My CFI laughed the other day when I said "welcome back to the sky". You can see my solo video on my channel if you care to watch. Also some cross wind flight previous to the solo. @AdventureSouthLife
Crosswinds are tough no matter how experienced the pilot it. We all go through the struggles my friend
Love it, I never forget the day my instructor tore me a new one for ballsing up an Engine failure after Take off. I felt like S*#t but I’ve never forgotten the lesson. I’ve just stumbled across your videos and love your relaxed style. Nice one 👍
I have to be honest, my instructor never told me after a flight, 'are you ready to get a new ar****le', and on the taxi home, 'next time we're kicking that in the c***!' Circuits are the most tedious and depressing part of the PPL syllabus, and I know I didn't get crosswind landings until long after getting my ticket if truth be told. I think what struck me throughout this lesson was that the student was low on approach EVERY TIME, and many of the problems would have been easier to manage if he'd worked that out. Thanks for the entertaining and informative vid as always Lewis.
Cheers Jon! The patterns were very low on final which were a contributing factor. But, it's all part of the process of learning! Next time he will kick it in the c**k! haha
I've just stumbled upon your channel a few days ago and now all the other ones you've posted are popping up as suggestions. I can't stop watching. I love your teaching style. Also suffering a lot with that moment during PPL where the instructors are actually fully in control and congratulating you on doing a fantastic job, like a baby, to when they start handing over more of it to you and you realise it was all a big lie beforehand and you weren't doing s*** before. Already learnt a lot from your videos.
Lewdix. I don't know if you'll see this, I know this video was 3 years old. I had a recent flight with my instructor trying to get my PPL. Unfortunately for my flight, my instructor was less upbeat and less informative. I'm jealous of your student. I hope he knows how good of an instructor he has.
@@sham9720 Sorry to hear that your instructor wasn’t doing the minimum for you but appreciate your kind words!
I had a day just like this like a month ago. I could not control my airspeed and it was windy as balls. I did like 5 go-arounds that day until I finally brought it down.
Weather in Texas is insane. Sub freezing temperatures with normal clear weather this Saturday. Haven’t flown in 3 weeks. The weather has pushed my solo by about a month or so.
Gonna try and get all that rust off this weekend.
You got this JD!
I really wish my students were like him. Most trainees don’t talk and just fixate on the instruments. Made me think I wasn’t funny
I prefer the crab landing with last minute rudder kick to the wing down crosswind landing.
My instructor had me do a couple of crosswind landings where he landed the plane, but told me to use rudder to keep the nose pointed at the far end of the runway. Then we did a couple more where he handled rudder control and I landed and used aileron to stay on the centerline. Really helped to drill those skills one at a time. And whenever I was just holding the controls steady, he would say "keep flying the airplane" -- I still hear that in my head on a gusty crosswind landing!
Had those days. They are so brutal and defeating but then you go up again and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF.
Every time you go up with him it looks like you guys are having a lot of fun, plus, being educational and productive. That is best way to learn. A lot can be accomplished in a short amount of time. "When you learned from the best, you become the best". I was noticing that the audio was a bit low than normal. Until I read the "pinned" commend at the bottom. Still watched and gave a "like" anyway. Thanks brother.
Your videos are sooo helpful (or should I say entertaining)! Thanks for putting this on, dude!
Thank you for watching!
Had days like this with my ppl instructor but days like these made me a better pilot. Now im working on my instrument good luck to JD
Good debrief. The only thing I would add to your debrief is that the crosswind control changes in the flare because the airspeed is decreasing. Thus requiring more correction. Great videos!!!
Its reassuring to hear you say the exact same shit I tell my students. Theres a reason we do it a certain way I guess haha
I had a lesson like this, this past summer. Many like this, really. Crosswind is TOUGH. It gets better. I hope you're not too discouraged! I have my PPL now so there is light at the end of the (long, expensive) tunnel! :)
Every approach looks like you are doing a long low pass over a large body of water. Did you consider what will happen if you lost power? I thought I heard the controller clear a jet to land and so I am assuming that the runway is at least 5000 ft. If that is true, wouldn't it make more sense to turn base and final lot sooner, spend little or no time over water and land long? You will never face the prospect of landing on water.
I really love the way you train, and connect with your students! Makes me want to find an instructor like you
Always fun with crosswinds!
That’s so funny, yesterday was working with my instructor after not flying more than two months! Some crosswinds made two awful hard landings. Third was little better. Cross landings are still tough for me. Great job btw, both of you :)
As a wanna-be pilot, this video was very helpful in letting me see the struggles I'll likely face. Hang in there, JD - you got this, brother. Still not quite digging the new logo, Lewis. Really having a hard time letting go of the old one...
I've not flown for 17 years so I may be a little "loosey-goosey" too 🙈, well done man! Loving the red merch and matching Flying Eyes... I think I will need to order some merch now! 🤙 Next time give us a bit more Freddie 😎🎶🎤....😂👌
JD crosswind landing were my hardest part of training. when You first started out they train you not to cross control. but that’s what it takes to land in a x wind. Practice cross controlling or doing slide slips on landing and crosswind landing becomes second nature. Last week I was having problems coming in on a strong crosswind on RW 25 called Merk in the tower and requested runway 31 no problem you have options.
Awesome video, I think this is exactly where I will be in a couple weeks. Nearly 2 months since I last flew ( lockdown ) and trying to regain the skills from before I stopped. Killing it JD, keep going.
I got this same lecture from my instructor last week. Glad I'm not the only one.
I've been flying for 2 years and stopped flying for a year due to Covid, now I am back but on a very small and narrow airfield with a lot more gust and crosswind conditions and terrain/obstacles around. I feel like I am learning to fly on day 1 all over again, I just couldn't get the landing right because I think I still have the large runway picture in my mind, just gotta keep trying until I nail it then I can basically land in most places because this airfield is probably one of the more challenging ones.
I can relate to this as it happened to me fairly recently. Gaps in training can erode your ability to anticipate what the plane is going to do in response to your control input. So you end up lagging in the action-reaction sequence of events. JD knows what is happening but isn't able to keep up or forgets that he needs to adjust. For that first approach, he cut power and extended flaps without much delay. And then he lowers the nose. So essentially he set himself up for a quick descent. He's lost 300-400ft by the time he questions whether he should be descending or holding altitude. That's a "late" question to ask. And when he's told he's low moments later, he still goes ahead and deploys all his flaps by final. That indicates to me that he's being mechanical about the process. I know this because I did the same mistake just a month ago. JD just needs to get back in the plane soon and needs to work on getting ahead of the plane. I'd like to add that I am in the same stage as JD in the training process. Pre-solo student with many hours of touch and go so this video was very relatable.
😂😂😂 threw in the Body Ahdy Ahdy Ahdy on the 3rd touch n go. Nice!!
Thank you for the amazing propeller shirt design, I was worried I had to design one myself 🤣 Nicely done!
haha thanks for purchasing one! Can't wait for you to see it. I love them!
3:19 Cherokee Zero Four twOOOOO
I'm learning to fly rotor-wing and today we had a 15knt gust and landings with a 15knt varying crosswinds are definitely rough. Glad to see fixed-wing students also struggling lol
I still remember the day cross wind landing clicked for me.. after all these years.
And exactly how long did that take, and how did u do it? pls help me, im going into training in Sept. and I fly a lot of sims but I cant wrap my head around it. nose into wind? opposite of wind? what do i do
@@limitedkanji nose in the wind, before flair rudder in the opposite direction so your wheels are aligned with the runway, the wheels of the Wind side Touch down first
@@zakups7777 ok ok thx I’ll keep that in mind
@@limitedkanji sim is crap for it. You will get the feel when you do it, no substitute for time in the saddle
@@cpy ok that’s good to know. I start in sept. so hopefully I catch on quick.
As usual, a wonderful instructor with a great instruction video!
It’s so nice when you nail them, more shite ones than good ones if your honest with yourself, I was sweating felt like I was in the hot seat.
Practice practice practice.
My dad always said you’re not a pilot unless you can land when it’s windy.
It's shitty being put on the spot, but unless it's super abusive, it's pretty great.
Hell, I was punched on the leg (light enough to not be painful, just to be felt as a knock) by my driving instructor after I went into a highway off ramp at too high speed and mentally tunnel visioned on "Not braking while taking a curve" so I was stock stiff focused on curving down that ramp at the speed I was at.
Got lovetapped at the bottom and pulled back down to earth. It was the only real mistake I did all around, but he still chewed me up over it just so I would remember it despite being so 'proper' otherwise.
In fact, I was so good at the end that my final practical exam was cut short.
So yeah, this made it stick in my mind even for something as mundane as driving, and even though I was great at everything else, I still had a very bad moment that "IRL" could endanger the lives of others and/or mine.
Sometimes ya just need to get pulled out of ruts. Shitty at the moment, but has so much healing power.
Too much fun...great stuff!
My last few lessons before soloing it seemed like I forgot how to land as well. That's how flying is sometimes, two steps forward one step backwards. Anyways it looks like your boy needs to work on stabilizing that approach starting on downwind and getting that speed and trim under control. He'll be off on his own in no time.
Student is wearing vintage LewDix apparel - what gives??
This is hysterical - I had written my comment before 2:04
Would reviewing slips outside of landing situation help? Just getting more used to the cross controls with right aileron and left rudder just to compensate, and that way it becomes more second nature when landing because you're already used to that position
Brings my back to my student pilot days; good times.
I totally feel this! Hell, a bunch of my bad landings are documented on my TH-cam channel too! I'm just starting to get the feel for it, but I'm guessing that the i'll be chasing the perfect landing for the rest of my aviation "career"
You will always be chasing the perfect landing! I’ve been searching since 2008
8:19 tho 🤣
Nice video. Good points to control that aircraft. !
Feel ya brother. I’m struggling to combine the actions.
I know this is a older video…but I think Microsoft flight simulator would have been a huge advantage for him to be able to figure out how to manipulate all of the controls at once to get the desired outcome.
I struggle too as it doesn't feel natural and you dont do what you need to. Takes practice for sure
Hell, do I envy you guys.....already able to fly without wearing masks.
Love it! Always think go around
Hey Lew, any chance you’ll consider doing an “Ask A CFI” sort of Q&A on Insta or offer a 1 on 1 ground?
You’ve got a way of explaining concepts that just clicks for me and I feel some of us plebs would benefit haha! Just a thought!
Haha absolutely. I am planning on doing a Q&A at some point and can do remote ground sessions when time permits.
@@LewDixAviation Right on! Looking forward to it down the road! Thanks for the great content brother!
Ordered a pair of Flying Eyes this morning... stuck your code in the checkout which gave me 10 minutes more in my plane. Thanks! :-)
10 more minutes of pure bliss as your head won’t hurt anymore!
@@LewDixAviation Hell yes!
Had me on the edge of the my seat wandering if he was going to land in the water. A bit low.
Welcome to the ground!
I am struggling with this crosswind landings - put the wing into down into the wind opposite rudder while landing and holding the yoke to bleed off speed. Not easy. It's trying to get all of the inputs coordinated.
Dude, I also went a whole training flight without turning on my headset. Couldn't hear ATC for shit 😂
😂
Just came back from a similar flight, pretty good explanation.
Great instruction LewDix and the fact that you didn't push him when he was done. We're always working the kinks out. Keep'em coming
Thanks man!
Nice go around.
Definitely my style of teaching... love the lightness combined with the education.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm feeling these landings in 'my cheeks'. Lew, I can hear you in my head because I'm saying the same thing but could I execute? JD has his hand off the throttle all the time...loosen the brake on the throttle on him then ask him...'So why are your RPMs lowering?' Personally, my hand is on the throttle anytime I'm in the pattern. I've had it release on me once and I had to throw those Calvin's in the trash.
Not sure about where you’re seeing his hand away from the throttle but every approach to me I’m seeing his hand on the throttle when it should be.
That release would have been scary man.. How do your new set of calvins feel?
@@LewDixAviation The new Calvins were itchy...and at the wrong times...haha.
Landing is scary. But your just a plane in the sky, airspeed is key. Use those flight controls
I thought you were inverted at this moment lmaoo 8:47
Every student pilot, if properly saturated work load wise by an instructor, should know when to be pilot in charge, and make the call, today is not the day, let's head back in and try again another day. It may take a couple of days or a week, before you get to process all the errors, in your mind, and how to correct. Then you go out and try it again. It's VERY important to be well rested, no external pressures or stress going on in the rest of your life, relationship, work, etc, BEFORE you start flying for the day. YOU need to be running 100%, so that you can focus and task at 100%. Perhaps Lou should have taken the controls after 2 attempts, to show the student, again, how a stabilized approach is done. Many people learn visually.
Instructor sure was trusting. If student screwed up landing dont think instructor could have saved
Maybe some time in a tailwheel for centerline and drift discipline?
Be GLAD he doesn't use a clipboard!! THOSE make LASTING impressions! (Experience!) =)
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@LewDix Aviation You guys would really benefit from a serious working environment. A good pilot is always learning
Legends.
Breathe and be aware
Used to squeeze the left rudder when I was tense coming into land during training . Might be that as well Lewis. Then again I'm probably talking shit.
Yep. I see that a lot in students
@@LewDixAviation the left rudder or the talking shit? :D
13:50 - Is student using technique of matching cowling with horizon during flare?
Do you use polarized sunglasses or not???
Go around decision high five! (let's make that a thing :) )
JD looks like he's lost some weight. Good job, JD.
Yea but he's gained a mustache. Can't wait for everyone to see it and tell him to shave
@@LewDixAviation never
@@jdlopez9337 You should shave it bruh.
@@jdlopez9337 jk lol
Is this out of Orlando executive??
Yep
How strong was the wind?
Fairly gusty. Can't remember the specifics.
@@LewDixAviation plus the transition from water to land before the runway makes it a little bumpier
Splash and dash....
All leisure flying banned in the current UK lockdown. Even for an old guy who's already had first vaccination.
Ok ok, I’ll take the bait thumbnail... let me take a little click and nibble... see where this goes....... aaand Play.
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@@LewDixAviation Alright.... I’m just back from finishing the whole video. And it did not disappoint:) Would smash again! Quality content brother man!
I was a Drill Sergeant and helped run a DS Candidate program(preparing other NCOs to go to The Drill Sergeant Academy). I’ll say this style of jovial yet no BS/ball busting instruction is very effective to motivate and build confidence in your trainees. And I’ve found they will really work hard to improve to meet your higher standard.
It can be a fine line between too friendly and/or forgiving And being a complete hard ass that is demeaning and kills confidence.
Find that balance between cutting them Zero slack; holding them to the highest standard and luring them to relax so the can settle in to... “The Zone” ;)
Sorry the instructor in me never shuts up! Haha. Blue Sky’s
@@lyingcat9022 thanks so much mate!!
As soon as this person started to use expletives I came off this video ..totally unacceptable language to a student pilot. And totally uncalled for. I watched about ten seconds wrote this and moved onto to another video. Further had my instructor talked to me this way I would have taken my business somewhere else, these so called instructors forget students are also customers. change the X for ckhead very appropriate..
Soft
Just add some more soy.
this student is so bloody overconfident... needs to focus on the flying as opposed to making jolly reassuring noises.
420th view lol
Many years ago I fired my first primary CFI for swearing like that in the cockpit. Shows ignorance and lack of verbal skills.
A communication style that works for you might not necessarily be the best for somebody else. Perhaps you should chill out.