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  • What is a watch? It’s a timekeeping device, primarily. Perhaps this statement is obvious to you, perhaps you think it’s something that doesn’t need clarifying-but yet when a watch can cost £250 or a quarter of a million, the obvious no longer seems quite so obvious. How can two watches that both quite simply tell the time have such a disparity in their prices?
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  • @NGC-gu6dz
    @NGC-gu6dz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4490

    250 * 100 = 250,000???
    Clearly neither of these watches do maths like a Casio.

    • @samclemens1565
      @samclemens1565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Ah, the calculator watch. I do love them! Aside from that point, Seiko makes a watch that costs nearly double ($400k) over what that simple, somewhat dreary by comparison VC tourbillon costs. The GBLS998 Spring Drive minute repeater... The holy trinity can't even get close to the GBLS998 -- not in accuracy, not in technology, not in elegance, not in finish, not in the amount of sake they consumed while figuring out how to make it.

    • @rickj8859
      @rickj8859 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Your Casio watch can't do Calculus, or trigonometry. So why buy Casio at all? The simple multiplications and divisions, that Casion can master, you should have learned to do "by hand" in the primary school.

    • @Ordo.Corinthivm
      @Ordo.Corinthivm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@samclemens1565
      Yes, my friend, Credor's Masterpieces are out of this place. They even got the ones with the tourbillon in it but frankly, it's not of my liking it got too much decoration on it. I'm not trying to argue with you, but the one that cost $400k is one of those masterpieces with a tourbillion, known as Fugaku (GBCC999). The minute repeater that you mention cost about the same as this Vacheron, and the sonnerie cost about half of that and both of them powered by the spring drive, which arguably almost as accurate as regular quartz (not trying to compare with Seiko's quartz, as it is even more accurate, a special edition one can achieve 5 seconds a year).

    • @dimatha7
      @dimatha7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rickj8859 because is a cult 80s watch ;)

    • @viaprenestina3894
      @viaprenestina3894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      in the UK. They have imperial arithmetics

  • @billclifton731
    @billclifton731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1636

    It's amazing what Seiko produce for the money, really great value.

    • @lollipopyummy1389
      @lollipopyummy1389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Bill Clifton same with casio

    • @artyom-ei2mf
      @artyom-ei2mf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @Ray Han that is quite correct but I want to say that to me seiko gets a lot of points for just producing every single part in the watch. For me it's a magic how it is possible done in that price so the just a little lower quality for the same price Is balanced for me by that fact.

    • @lollipopyummy1389
      @lollipopyummy1389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ray Han can you guess what's the french overpriced company?

    • @gifsec3601
      @gifsec3601 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @Ray Han Orient is part of Seiko Company.

    • @filipveran2705
      @filipveran2705 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @Ray Han Wrong, wrong, wrong and utterly wrong... parts are shared across all platforms in the VAG group, so yes, when you buy an Audi you do have some VW parts on it.
      When you buy a Porsche just looked beneath the car, you're gonna see 4MOTION parts, Audi parts and VW parts. I'm not saying that's bad thing but it is what it is, to believe otherwise is just being gullible.

  • @leonghk12
    @leonghk12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    If i wear this watch for 50 years, its still 50 cents per hour for 50 years. That's a lot of money.

    • @omarsaletovicprins9632
      @omarsaletovicprins9632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      leonghk12 damn

    • @user-sj3px7dt2u
      @user-sj3px7dt2u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you own a money printing machine , you won't care about the numbers at all

    • @tuchhobal5672
      @tuchhobal5672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@user-sj3px7dt2u lame

    • @Someothername2134
      @Someothername2134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @Върбан Буков Дъбов That is exactly what a large portion of the world would think about someone buying a 250 watch also. It is all relative.

    • @TeganBurns
      @TeganBurns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not quite. the net present value would have increased over time.

  • @JBOsurf
    @JBOsurf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1315

    The macro lens is a brutal device. It shows EVERYTHING, including all the imperfections in your 250000 pound VC...

    • @user-qi6zo2fn7p
      @user-qi6zo2fn7p 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      JBOsurf these are used watches opened up and serviced by watchmakers at watchfinder.co.uk. In the process, they leave behind finger prints, finger smudges, tool induced scratches etc. This is not how the watches leave the factory in 99% of the cases.

    • @jennyp.4603
      @jennyp.4603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@user-qi6zo2fn7p all VC featured on Watchfinder the last month had serious imperfections. In the video '5 Dress Watches" The VC Maltese Cross on the dial was tarnished and dirty, in the video GP vs VC the line application on the VC was appalling. Here you see scratches on the dial 0:14, the movement has imperfections in polishing. VC is embarrassing themselves. The competition from Lange und Patek ist too much.

    • @gmshadowtraders
      @gmshadowtraders 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@jennyp.4603 VC is shit. Total joke of a brand. Need to be relegated from the holy trinity asap.

    • @nvllvoid4394
      @nvllvoid4394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂 so true

    • @sergeyzerkin8029
      @sergeyzerkin8029 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-qi6zo2fn7p bullashit this is adveristimt of those shit brands cuz they own which channel ... so 99 percent are even worse

  • @icecreamforever
    @icecreamforever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +499

    100* more expensive? More like 1000* more expensive!

    • @Celtri
      @Celtri 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      More like 1250x more expensive!

    • @ramjetnuesse
      @ramjetnuesse 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, they're math sucked on that one. Good catch! Came here to say same.

    • @Almansa403s
      @Almansa403s 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ramjetnuesse Your grammar sucks.

    • @tn_onyoutube8436
      @tn_onyoutube8436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ramjetnuesse - ooh, snatches defeat from the jaws of victory!

    • @marcd7332
      @marcd7332 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ramjetnuesse Their*

  • @LCTesla
    @LCTesla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    every time the billionaire that wears this bumps his watch against his desk he thinks "damn there goes another $20k" and wipes the sweat off his brow with a wad of $1000 bills

    • @iganpparamarta8813
      @iganpparamarta8813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Neophyte yeah it’s time to replace that desk anyway.

    • @folksdi3784
      @folksdi3784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It's time to replace the skyscraper

    • @marsoelflaco5722
      @marsoelflaco5722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The billionaire doesn't even move...he pays someone else to.

    • @steampang2559
      @steampang2559 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iganpparamarta8813 🤣🤣🤣

    • @akaakaakaak5779
      @akaakaakaak5779 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he doesnt notice $20k, he wouldnt give a shit if he lost the whole watch

  • @Korean_Crayon
    @Korean_Crayon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    Seiko and Citizen are personally my favorite brands. For the price you're get amazing quality watches that stand out. Both brands have watches for everything, from diving to fancy dining.

    • @echandirohrmoser3183
      @echandirohrmoser3183 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I love Seiko watches, from their solar to the mechanicals.
      Citizen on the other hand, for some unknown reason by me, has ceased making machanical watches, and focus on Eco-Drive.
      And yes, I would take both over many Swiss brands.

    • @makeyoumoved8532
      @makeyoumoved8532 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Don’t forget Casio

    • @lateshpatil5307
      @lateshpatil5307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@makeyoumoved8532 LoL do they make Mechanicals, thought they only focused on G-Shock

    • @aprilcain9208
      @aprilcain9208 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@echandirohrmoser3183 They still make mechanical watches. Just depends on the market. The U.S. market doesn't get them but some of the other countries do.

    • @echandirohrmoser3183
      @echandirohrmoser3183 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aprilcain9208
      The last Citizen mechanical watch I owned was purchased in 1996, after that I have never seen another mechanical watch made by them on the market. Only regular battery ones and Eco Drive.

  • @jayshark4079
    @jayshark4079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    My dad bought a Seiko watch as a kid and I still use it to this day :)

    • @akashrathour3441
      @akashrathour3441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Jay Shark I have my grandads seiko from the 70s - he was a mechanic so it was probably regularly knocked and it still works perfectly (it’s never been serviced either!)

    • @jimmypavone3231
      @jimmypavone3231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@akashrathour3441 Wow that's really saying somthing

  • @karlmadsen3179
    @karlmadsen3179 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Seiko possesses that old-school philosophy of doing it all and paying attention to the details as it's done. Practical excellence. I like that.

  • @fludeball
    @fludeball 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    “Seiko makes its own movements in-house.”
    I make my own movements in-house too, but nobody’s making TH-cam videos about it.

    • @DanielK1213th
      @DanielK1213th 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What’s the joke here?

    • @viktormuerte
      @viktormuerte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DanielK1213th bowel movements.

    • @ChrisPFries-kz5vf
      @ChrisPFries-kz5vf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel your pain

    • @AldrianCG
      @AldrianCG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂🤣👏🏼🙌🏼

    • @mr22guy
      @mr22guy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is why I read TH-cam comments. 👏

  • @7777Simpson
    @7777Simpson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Where on Earth is VC’s quality control? Some of the marks and imperfections are shocking and unacceptable at this level of watchmaking.

    • @shiond123
      @shiond123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Call me blind mate, but I didn't find any, where did you?

    • @ataraxia2894
      @ataraxia2894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@shiond123 pause at 0:14 on the dial and at 6:06 there's a cracked jewel.

    • @Omikronik
      @Omikronik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im not that well versed in watches but i was thinking of retiring my 4 year old Seiko for a new one and noticed that the Seiko in the vid says it has 23 jewels and a lot of people are mentioning the cracked jewel too. I just wanted to know if these jewels serve any purpose?

    • @bcepni00
      @bcepni00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Magical Toast The supposedly cracked jewel is on the 250K Vacheron Constantin.
      The jewels serve to minimise friction between parts for smoother operation and longer life. Also I dont see a reason to retire your Seiko if your only reasoning is that it’s 4 years old.
      Fyi, the number of jewels doesn’t mean anything. A lot of companies put extra jewels where there is no need just for marketing. When the watch is being designed, only the necessary parts will have jewels. And again, fyi, these jewels are lab grown rubies and they cost next to nothing.

    • @Cosmicblast77
      @Cosmicblast77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Omikronik without the jewel the pivot point, balance staff would wear down the hole (widen it) and accuracy would diminish. In time the watch would stop working properly. Jewel holes are much harder then metal and with a little special oil will last indefinitely.

  • @TheAsLoRi
    @TheAsLoRi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    New kid on the block? they nearly destroyed the Swiss hahah

    • @keevomora
      @keevomora 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      nearly? Seiko had to buy some Swiss companies to keep them afloat lmao

    • @SKaleLP
      @SKaleLP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      kevin morales well, they were able to buy them, so who’s the loser now

    • @ginnfreecs2994
      @ginnfreecs2994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@keevomora they did almost destroy the swiss watchmaking with their quartz, because its more accurate and super cheap at that time.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ginnfreecs2994 actually the first quartz watches were superexpensive but yeah that dropped quick!

    • @atif1538
      @atif1538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Theo 'on top' u mean cancelling observatory competitions because seiko got too good?

  • @ChopstickNamaste
    @ChopstickNamaste 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Ok thank you ... Now where do i buy the Seiko

  • @markmcdonnell
    @markmcdonnell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Exquisite breakdown of fundamental differences between watches, especially the more etheral 'why' more than the 'how'.

  • @ghostindamachine
    @ghostindamachine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Epic words are chosen, very witty yet informative with a pleasurable cadence and stunning cinematography.

  • @IULENZA
    @IULENZA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    One is an instrument to tell time, the other is a work of art that also tells time!

    • @sondrejohansen48
      @sondrejohansen48 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Andre Tennis and the writer is a guy who can’t calculate

    • @ruemignon
      @ruemignon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I'd say that the ability to mass produce something; keep the finish more than satisfactory; and at a price that everyone can afford is another kind of art. Seiko nails it.

    • @dannemannen18
      @dannemannen18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Even the Seiko are a work of art tough. Why spend 250$ instead of 5-10$ if you just want an instrument to tell the time? And that 10$ watch would be more accurate.

    • @Triggernlfrl
      @Triggernlfrl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      One watch with real value and a other with imagnary value...

    • @IULENZA
      @IULENZA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Triggernlfrl A tourbillon is not imaginary, a top hand-finished movement is not imaginary.

  • @vast634
    @vast634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    6:06 shows a cracked jewel...

    • @dominicbeltz9057
      @dominicbeltz9057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      amazing eye very small detail i didn't see until you pointed it out

    • @Pulsonar
      @Pulsonar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Amazing discovery, this is scandalous! How is it possible that VC gets away with it??

    • @vast634
      @vast634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @absoftitanium No the surface tension would pull it to a drop, especially at that scale,, its a crack

    • @K3V0M
      @K3V0M 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It looks like a hair to me. The end of it is at about the 8 o'clock position.

    • @freddiemercurious
      @freddiemercurious 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a "grown" crystal. It's an imperfection. That is neither a crack nor lubricant.

  • @a.g.8724
    @a.g.8724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    That Seiko is, for now, the most affordable watch shown in this channel

  • @robertotoy5586
    @robertotoy5586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Out of all the videos of Watchfinder I find this the ultimate experience, just seeing that Vacheron made me feel like appreciating a superb work or art, something unreachable! Thank you for the supreme quality videos!

  • @vilma71
    @vilma71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "unless you've been listening to this video with your eyes closed"
    lol I've been literally listening to this in bed trying to fall asleep

  • @hiimapop7755
    @hiimapop7755 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The narration is amazing. Props to the narrator!

  • @davidarden6942
    @davidarden6942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The narrator has such a charming way of articulating his points. It’s a pleasure listening to you talking about this world of watch collecting. You speak from passion and it’s obvious.

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    What’s camera and lens you using in this video ?

    • @DerEchteBabo
      @DerEchteBabo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Iphone 5s

    • @warrenhorrod-wilson3128
      @warrenhorrod-wilson3128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@DerEchteBabo you got it wrong bro it’s definitely a Samsung galaxy

    • @DerEchteBabo
      @DerEchteBabo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@warrenhorrod-wilson3128 oh yeah you're right sorry

    • @suomixs3506
      @suomixs3506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Samsung Galaxy

    • @mladengochev6918
      @mladengochev6918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      in this video are u for real? u need to get a life bro working 9/5 is just to put food on the table u need food for your soul or your life is a waste!

  • @pranitsingh8369
    @pranitsingh8369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You have magic in your words. You sir, truly are a master.

  • @nesttea2239
    @nesttea2239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    2:52 actually 1,000 times more expensive

  • @datdang9113
    @datdang9113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    £250 may sound a lot for a watch, especially compared to cheaper quartz watches but for an automatic mechanical watch, that's an unbelievably low price

    • @omniferousswan593
      @omniferousswan593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Idk I've seen automatic mechanical watches on ebay for like 20 bucks.

    • @nish8399
      @nish8399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@omniferousswan593 careful, watch enthusiasts will rage at u for saying the truth

    • @wololo10
      @wololo10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      unbelievably is a quartz for 5 usd

  • @johncard007
    @johncard007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watch a lot of horological reviews - Long Island watch, The Urban gentry etc. and I must admit I love the way you write your reviews, subtly and wittily done whilst understated, a great British trait. I salute you fellow Brit. Cheers!

  • @oommcc
    @oommcc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Thats nothing, I just bought a watch in Alliexpress for $3.99 with an integrated lighter!!!!

    • @TheSergioMexico
      @TheSergioMexico 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What, that's awesome, got a link?

    • @mouacmoua85
      @mouacmoua85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am interested too!

    • @raymondperrelli2539
      @raymondperrelli2539 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      me too

    • @gisbertvonkrauthausen5609
      @gisbertvonkrauthausen5609 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your profile pic is brilliant

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a $35 automatic off amazon, and it's a bridge-style movement
      (it's a clone of one of Invicta's Russian Diver watches, but I had to search for hours just to find that out)

  • @photovideooz4084
    @photovideooz4084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Seiko also has its own tourbillon in their high-end ones.

  • @mykeross2377
    @mykeross2377 5 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Seiko isn't about watches. It's about dignity. That's why I admire them. Great video.

    • @REDnBLACKnRED
      @REDnBLACKnRED 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @sleepingbear No, they have always been about the cutting-edge watch technology, being the best in timekeeping. Good value is a result of them being Japanese and not Swiss. If Seiko was Swiss, Grand Seiko would cost no less than a Rolex. It's all manipulation of the Swiss industry to not become obsolete. This happens with everything. Why do you think the most expensive cars are European, the most expensive bags and shoes are European, and the most expensive jewellery makers are European? Not because they are objectively better than others, it's because they ruled the world for hundreds of years and made sure they remained on top. And that has now become associated with quality. It's so very sad. A loss for the consumers and a tragedy for artists and craftsmen from around the globe.

    • @brothacaim
      @brothacaim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@REDnBLACKnRED truest words to be written

  • @rare6499
    @rare6499 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The VC is a nice watch. Quite beautiful and impressive. But let’s be real here, like all other ‘luxury’ products it will have immense profit margins. I respect the Seiko more. It’s also a really handsome watch for the price.

  • @Mr_Andreson
    @Mr_Andreson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I would expect perfection if I’m paying 250k for a watch but the quality of the VC finishes is far from that. I’ll take the Seiko.

    • @adewgg6862
      @adewgg6862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is not how it comes from the factory. Its a used watch, it probably has been taken apart by a watchmaker who did not do the best at keeping everything perfect.

  • @steelheart4148
    @steelheart4148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have great respect for a company like Vacheron Constantin. They have somehow convinced enough people that this archaic piece of technology is worth 250,000 when a $10.00 Casio F91W will keep more accurate time.

    • @traviswebster8302
      @traviswebster8302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s not a piece of technology anymore, it’s art. People need to keep that in mind when they look at watch prices. And I’ll definitely take a stacked collection of fine watches than a crazy expensive painting

    • @Roman-vh1rr
      @Roman-vh1rr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@traviswebster8302 art? There's art and there's scam artist

    • @Adrian-wd4rn
      @Adrian-wd4rn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@traviswebster8302 So if it's art, then people no longer buy them for artistic value, but rather, as a means of laundering their money.

    • @electroma97
      @electroma97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't buy a 250,000$ watch because you desperately need to have time on your wrist

    • @steelheart4148
      @steelheart4148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@electroma97 There is a theory (not mine) that no matter how stupid, how useless, how overpriced or how ridiculous a product is, there is some idiot out there who will buy it. Vacheron Constantin and other "ultra exclusive" watch companies have proven this to be so. Like the late great P.T. Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

  • @MrChipNightingale
    @MrChipNightingale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love this channel. It’s like watching Top Gear but with watches

    • @benjeske5298
      @benjeske5298 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what I was just thinking!

  • @TheGeekazoid
    @TheGeekazoid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yea that's why the watch that costs a much as a house has a crack in the crystal... The seiko was flawless

  • @davidgalstyan8239
    @davidgalstyan8239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i have this kind of seiko for $240 and its amazing, low-key look, simple and sexy. and the engine is in house.

    • @magnetyt8503
      @magnetyt8503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      what is the model name of the Seiko?

    • @saboss
      @saboss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@magnetyt8503 SRPA25K1 (9 months later)

  • @paradoxxop2187
    @paradoxxop2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    me: *looks at my 10 dollar watch that I bought from a long-coated man

  • @ammy22222222
    @ammy22222222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the videos❤ I'm only now getting into watches and before finding your stuff i was pretty much just looking at the most expensive watch i could get within budget. Now i understand that that isn't what this is about. Fell in love with so many watches way below my planned purchase price. Thanks!

  • @crazyhydraful
    @crazyhydraful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The macro shots are killing me!!
    Also i can only imagine how much research the person has done for this video :0

  • @CartierCrash
    @CartierCrash 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally seen your face, in the Seiko bezel 😂

  • @Abhishek-rm3kv
    @Abhishek-rm3kv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The Seiko tells time, the VC tells the owner's time.

  • @davidi6201
    @davidi6201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:02 This literally brings me joy to watch in action.

  • @canonyeo4286
    @canonyeo4286 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Correction-1000X. The tourbillon is marvel, but, now you can have one for 500usd with complications that this vc does not have. The spring drive is a standing marvel, testament of piaget's 70,000usd failure. The 250 GBP seiko is indeed a marvel for every man and woman.

  • @ohmyafy
    @ohmyafy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Another Seiko video?! How lucky are we!

  • @grumpyoldman2380
    @grumpyoldman2380 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Excellent video! And is it me or, on the surface, is the Seiko a much more attractive and refined looking dress watch than the Vacheron?

    • @reality-warp
      @reality-warp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      100% agree with you there. This particular VC is not my favorite and I actually would rather wear the Seiko than this. There are VCs I like, but this isn't one of them.

    • @BonDijon
      @BonDijon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i think its also the lighting in this vid. ive seen that seiko irl and the sunburst dial isn't as rich and deep looking.

  • @brendanwhipple6787
    @brendanwhipple6787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What specific models are each of these? The Seiko model, most importantly.

  • @RafaelCosta-oi3be
    @RafaelCosta-oi3be 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very on point, there's way more to luxury items than simply showing off; it enables you to appreciate true art, the pinnacle of care and mastery going into material representations of heritage. And that is worth every cent.

  • @LesterLovesWatches
    @LesterLovesWatches 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    The answer is:
    Man-hours
    Materials
    Branding
    But I agree that a 450-second answer is more desirable than a 4.5-second answer.

    • @DrinkWater713
      @DrinkWater713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The answer is 70% branding, 25% man hours with swiss wages and 5% materials.

    • @DrinkWater713
      @DrinkWater713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @O.o LOL How much do you think they would charge for the snowflake if Seiko was swiss ?

    • @kaym7704
      @kaym7704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s mainly just marketing. People buy into it and give it value.

  • @voiceofexperience
    @voiceofexperience 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love the typically dry British sense of humour this channel seems to be developing.
    Just when I thought it couldn't get any better...

  • @davidp605
    @davidp605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some reason I found this hilarious.. but loved every second of it

  • @jarodstevens2710
    @jarodstevens2710 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect your words the delivery you could have done the same thing without even showing the watches just fantastic every videos better than the last

  • @SirLoinOfsteak85
    @SirLoinOfsteak85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Err...is it bad I prefer the Seiko?

  • @jennyp.4603
    @jennyp.4603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Should've done Credor vs Seiko Presage to avoid the budget Seiko hords

    • @jennyp.4603
      @jennyp.4603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Seiko charges for their Tourbillon GBCC999 for example 460,000 USD.

    • @jappojappy
      @jappojappy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jennyp.4603 *credor

    • @zeeshanzia6364
      @zeeshanzia6364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jenny P. Wow I had no idea seiko made tourbillions

    • @samclemens1565
      @samclemens1565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jappojappy Credor = Seiko

    • @iclogtoilets3483
      @iclogtoilets3483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jenny you are so smart. Keep up the great work.

  • @menaseven9093
    @menaseven9093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All watch tells the time it doesn't matter if it is a $250 watch or a $250,000 watch. A person is not buying $250,000 watch to tell the time but the person is buying it as a piece of art, great craftsmanship, brand history and status symbol.

  • @techstyle123
    @techstyle123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love watches but I totally understand the man hours that goes into making the expensive watches and the workmanship that's put into place.
    I would never pay 250k the Seiko is a perfect watch but I'd choose a g shock with all those cool features for around 200.

  • @bbayat4093
    @bbayat4093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is how a review should be. Our American friends would do well to learn from this. Describing a watch poetically appeals to me as I am not trying to track time. My reasons for having a watch are holistic and mystical. I am not measuring time, I am applying time to the measurements of all things, and I want to do this as ostentatiously as possible.

  • @Jackdudu
    @Jackdudu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That seiko is BEAUtiful.

  • @rajatsharma2406
    @rajatsharma2406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of all the videos I've ever seen... This one stands like a beacon to the sky♥️♥️♥️🥺🥺🥺this is priceless... A masterpiece

  • @chrispenn715
    @chrispenn715 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That VC is lovely up close - I'd need to wear a loupe whenever i wore it (if only I had that much money to spend!)

  • @werre2
    @werre2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my 4€ SKMEI worked fine for over 2 weeks without needing human intervention

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lmao, skmei are just knockoff casios

  • @leebarrett9581
    @leebarrett9581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Seiko are the boys to watch out for, their making some really nice bits these days. Move out the way toblerone the sushi gang are here!!

  • @respectanimals2
    @respectanimals2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I just love the way you do them, fabulous 🧐

  • @AgSmithsilversmith
    @AgSmithsilversmith 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos always look so beautiful. Such amazing photography and production.

  • @IvoTrausch
    @IvoTrausch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Visually, I'd prefer the Seiko. Also, in my experience, they are more durable than those delicate luxury pieces. I've had many 7S and 4R calibers, they are not the sexiest movements, but they are absolutely bulletproof.

  • @michaelhughes3302
    @michaelhughes3302 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    That Seiko is simply beautiful! It is obviously debatable whether or not the VH is worth 100 times the price. What is absolutely not debatable... Is whether or not it is worth One Thousand times the price. Pardon my French but that's fucking crazy! To put this into perspective, you could own ten incredibly desirable timepieces, ten custom tailored suits to pair them all with and then... Take yourself on ten vacations to the most amazing places on Earth and still arrive home with money in the Bank. And provided you're not an absolute douche, every single person you meet on your travels will think you are a legend! That is just one example of just how ridiculous this watch is.

    • @bletwort2920
      @bletwort2920 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Hughes wow

    • @V_dW1
      @V_dW1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its worth a 1000 times more

    • @udin737
      @udin737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think you get the point here. People who bought a 250k time piece can afford a thousand vacations and a 20 million dollars House, not to mention several million dollars cars and other luxury items in life.
      To each person is their affordability in life. 😁

    • @michaelhughes3302
      @michaelhughes3302 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@udin737 Actually perhaps it is you that have missed my point. In another comment on this video I mentioned how the average price for a well appointed new car with all the latest tech is roughly 35k. Ten times that amount can get you into Lamborghini and Ferrari territory. While the most exclusive hyper cars that money can buy cost between one and four million. That's 100 times the cost of that average car. I live in one of the most expensive cities in North America where the average home is worth roughly a million. While twenty million will certainly buy you an absolute gem consider this, you would be hard pressed to spend more than 100 times the average price as there are only a handful of properties in the entire world that ever command more than 100 million. Again, nowhere near a thousand times the price. Twenty thousand dollar handbags, shoes that cost 3500 dollars a pair, a quarter million for a flawless diamond engagement ring. None of these items fetch a thousand times the average price. Now for argument sake, you might be able to persuade someone to part with their vintage Ferrari 250 GTO(only seven exist) or a museum quality Picasso and you'd be forgiven for spending tens of millions. But these items reside the realm of unobtainium. Point being, this watch and the literally hundreds offered for sale like it are not. But I get it, as long as people are willing to pay... I'm just pointing out that comparatively speaking, they're paying too much! Thanks

  • @Mu3aaath
    @Mu3aaath 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u so much for creating and posting this fun and educational vid. Really enjoyed it

  • @Osiedlowy_Platacz
    @Osiedlowy_Platacz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own the Seiko SRPA25 and I have to say it is a marvelous watch!

  • @addisonleung8941
    @addisonleung8941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "That weakness in your knees when a brace of Spitfires fly overhead." 😍😍

  • @aMcConghie16
    @aMcConghie16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Damn I really like that seiko but it’s to big at 43mm I wish they had presage at 38-39mm

    • @joehall9019
      @joehall9019 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seiko SARB033!

    • @jacc88888
      @jacc88888 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Hall This one looks more striking than the more conservative looking Sarb imo

    • @aMcConghie16
      @aMcConghie16 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Hall I’ll check it out thanks

    • @aMcConghie16
      @aMcConghie16 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Hall what about blue dials all I see is the white black and green

    • @jacc88888
      @jacc88888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seiko Sarx 045 is a presage and is 39.5mm (and a nice dark blue dial)

  • @pio3_1970
    @pio3_1970 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can i ask you some specifications on how you get these macro footage? I mean what gear and set up. Thank you :)

  • @brianpalay
    @brianpalay 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:01 Well, if you have to ask, maybe this line of work isn't right for you after all... LOL

  • @bluecollar8525
    @bluecollar8525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My $100 quartz is more accurate, more functional, and 200m water resistant. Sentimental people gonna be sentimental. I love a good mechanical, but some of these guys just take it to the absolute extreme for no reason other than obsession with perfection

    • @mrylcn3.0
      @mrylcn3.0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ofc quartz is more accurate. But there is no gimmick behind whole mechanical watches. They are living with you. They are a part of you. They take your energy and transform to the time concept. On the other hand, I agree with you. These are a social status elements.

    • @freddiemercurious
      @freddiemercurious 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Watch fanatics do realize the quartz is 300 TIMES more accurate than a mechanical; but using a car analogy, you won't find me dead in a Hyundai. It's just wrong.

  • @drumsandpaints
    @drumsandpaints 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    is it just me or is having "swiss made" printed all over such a beautiful piece is like having a tailor made suit with a do not tumble dry label?

    • @ptroinks
      @ptroinks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn't exactly call that "all over"...

    • @TheKennethfilm
      @TheKennethfilm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does having a 'swiss made' labeled to it make it expensive/extremely valuable? I have a Summit watch from my grandfather , as I googled there is so little information regarding the brand. It is a mechanical handwind with a power reserve 36+ hours approximately.

  • @hydroaegis6658
    @hydroaegis6658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol, there are some many finishing problems in the Constantine watch when you zoom in with that macro lens.

  • @gpearce11
    @gpearce11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these $XXX vs $XXXXX... videos. They simultaneously serve to show how impressive more budget oriented watches can be, while answering the age old question, “How can you pay such a stupid amount for a watch?!”.
    The answer, of course, is that if you have the money, you get what you pay for.

  • @door-to-doorhentaisalesman2978
    @door-to-doorhentaisalesman2978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I can't even afford the Seiko one.

    • @no1DdC
      @no1DdC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't have to, because it's no better at telling time than a quartz watch that costs a fraction. Both watches are pointless expressions of wealth, just different levels of pointless.

    • @endi3386
      @endi3386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      no1DdC It’s more than the time. It’s about a beautiful piece of craftsmanship that makes you smile every time you look at it and it’s inner workings and the fact that you can pass it down your family line as an heirloom

    • @user-px2ox6hu8o
      @user-px2ox6hu8o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@no1DdC some people like watches and always believe in buying quality ones as a hobby, just as some people like cars, or some buy luxury perfumes, it's just a matter of what you're fascinated with

    • @saboss
      @saboss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      no1DdC ok than get a xiaomi mi8

    • @MrWizardjr9
      @MrWizardjr9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@no1DdC a 250 dollar watch is an expression of wealth?

  • @bubbab7792
    @bubbab7792 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good narrative and macro, the VC decoration? Meh... 🤔🤔🤔

  • @daankienstra3643
    @daankienstra3643 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My god the traditionnele is beautiful, perhaps more than art. VC is so perfect.

  • @hamskyxxx
    @hamskyxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not the way you say it, but rather the way you tell it....I'll be going into academics and i feel this is the best way to teach and keep your audience super engaged. Your narration skill is A++.

  • @swamisampuurnanand
    @swamisampuurnanand 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The time has become where watched are used for everything but to keep time. I wouldn't say that they have gone crazy but the world needs to pay attention to what Casio and Seiko can manufacture, produce and invent for just dollar two fifties.
    I would simply go for Seiko hundred times rather than going hundred for just a watch.

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are admirable watches all across the price spectrum. I don't think it's out of line at all to own a multi-thousand-dollar Breitling that's older than I am and also own several Timexes that cost than $50 each. The important part is to find enthusiastically narrated TH-cam videos that talk up each piece. :D

  • @Rr_9991
    @Rr_9991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are you telling me that a quarter-million pound watch can't make me a perfrct boiled egg? Absolute blasphemy!

  • @Josh-wp5tm
    @Josh-wp5tm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's quite difficult deciding whether I want a watch our a house...

  • @misteratoz
    @misteratoz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the watchfinder I miss. Poetic. Thoughtful. Feels like the Chanel has gone steadily down hill over the years.

  • @golddragon8672
    @golddragon8672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    beautiful watches regardless of their prices. but the math tho!😨

  • @superlameusername362
    @superlameusername362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tomorrow on watchfinder & Co., $5 Chinese watch vs Astronomica.

  • @twoyorkie
    @twoyorkie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for a cheeky sensibility headsup on watches ! now....where did i put my sundial ?

  • @igaololo6267
    @igaololo6267 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you had to choose a classy tourbillion with leather strap which model/brand would you choose and why?

  • @Emilioh888
    @Emilioh888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Before watching this I had to two thoughts:
    1.This guy is gonna explain the mechanical differences between both and explain why one is better than the other.
    2. Talk a loadshit of nonsense about luxury, exclusivity, heritage.
    Unfortunately I got number 2.

    • @justins7123
      @justins7123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The Constantin really doesn't do anything mechanically better than the seiko, as a metter of fact, tourbillon mechamisms lose more time than traditional automatics. With the constantin, you're paying for craftsmanship and artistic value.

    • @Ariel24K
      @Ariel24K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      and that nonsense is unfortunately right, all those nonsense are exactly why the watch is nonsensically expensive

  • @tobias_dahlberg
    @tobias_dahlberg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Incredible video/s, the math could use some finishing though ;)

  • @deltacx1059
    @deltacx1059 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a westclox fedella pocket watch and I can't find any information about it

  • @PeterZandorff
    @PeterZandorff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The VC TT (very very limited production) is for the wealthy attracted to things that even upper class people can´t afford (the Weblen effect). Nowadays most working class people can afford a Rolex and even entry level Pateks are within reach (if they save up) and that is exactly why VC produces this watch - "I want a watch that nobody else can afford/has."

  • @RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77
    @RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One thing both watches have in common is they keep less accurate time than a $15 Timex with quartz movement.

    • @furkannn2000
      @furkannn2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ew quartz

    • @RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77
      @RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@furkannn2000 Mechanical watches are very cool, but eventually you get tired of checking the time and then realizing it's off by 15 minutes.

    • @B2OBOGOTA
      @B2OBOGOTA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 If it's off by 15 minutes either you never set it, or your doing something bad

    • @RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77
      @RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@B2OBOGOTA I would set it once and then just wear it and the time would eventually drift. Now OK I guess I could start a routine of setting it every however many days, but you just don't need to do this with quartz. What can you even do "bad" with an automatic watch besides not wear it enough?

    • @B2OBOGOTA
      @B2OBOGOTA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 Of course if you don't want to set it every few days I understand the quartz choice
      You can magnetize it, hit it against something and make it run less accurate
      But to have a 15 minutes difference, if you have a good automatic watch wich is +2s a day, I would take almost a year and a half to have that difference

  • @ohZyki
    @ohZyki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:14 that mark on the right and 6:06 a cracked jewel??!?!?!? this is unacceptable from a £250,000 watch!!!!!!

  • @hiyukelavie2396
    @hiyukelavie2396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only reason why the VC costs $250,000 is because it's a VC
    I can bet you that if a new start up company were to produce the exact same watch under a sillier name like Accurato 5000, it won't cost nearly as much

    • @betochiwas
      @betochiwas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      5000 as much

  • @secondfirstsecond
    @secondfirstsecond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:00 the top brass part looks 45degree misalligned.

  • @DMBVR4
    @DMBVR4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *one thousand times more

  • @mediaworld5209
    @mediaworld5209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The real question Is How were you Able get your hands on 250k watch

    • @gregorysantana72
      @gregorysantana72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its probably better if we dont ask

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the channel is for a watch shop that buys and sells really expensive watches

  • @mistersmith3986
    @mistersmith3986 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My father gave me his Seiko Automatic. He's had it for many decades. It's my favorite watch ever.

  • @thewristwatchexperience8153
    @thewristwatchexperience8153 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I want a watch that picks the lotto numbers and boils the perfect egg.