As a daily driver of an rx8, I can tell you right now. They’re super fun to drive; I absolutely love mine. However, once it starts breaking, you’ll become familiar with the practice of BDSM because you’ll be feeling nothing but pain and most of it will be out of your control. But other than that; Badass car that turns heads with it’s distinct sound profile.
With the practice of adding 20-50W conventional oil every 1k miles and premixing 2 stroke when you fill up, it’s easy to make them last over 150k, used to work for a mechanic he owned a 2004 RX8 has 223,000 miles on the orginal engine and started with no issues, I currently bought mine nearly a year ago and I’ve been doing just that and regular maintenance, put 1600 miles since I bought it in may an absolutely no issues.
I used to flip RX8's back in high school (09/10), got to the point where I could pick one up after school on a Friday or Saturday, pull the tiny engine, do a basic rebuild if it isn't fubar, go through basic maintenance, and have it ready to sell by Sunday evening. I still have an RX8 with the original factory engine, not a replacement at 46 or 94k miles, and it's rapidly approaching 250k miles. No rebuilds, but I did yank the worthless oiler in the Renesis engine and treat it like a 2 stroke with premix on each fill up, which with a rotary is more often than should be getting like 18-20mpg (mostly highway around here in rural BFE Midwest). If you understand how a rotary works, they're not that bad when it comes to reliability. I'd take an RX8 I maintained over most Subarus. That said, I have another RX8, but that one has a turbocharged Ford 3.0L SHO V6 that's insane fun to drive. They were solid chassis for swaps before cars like the FR-S/BRZ/86 came around. One reason they were solid picks is you could get a straight car for like 500 bucks around the 46k mile marker for drivers on average, where lots of cars were blowing up due to the bad/weak oiler and ignorance on how to take care of the engine.
@@Dacraft_190k on two of my oem engines. Remove oil metering pump.(doesn’t burn oil from pan). Allow the car to properly warm up (let it idle till it drops below 1000 and drive till the coolant needle stops moving *operation temp. Redline a week. And try to operate the car around 3k for cruising. The engine needs to spin so the oil can properly circulate. And maintenance
@@Dacraft_note once you remove oil metering pump you would need to run 2stroke oil. And then run 10-30 synthetic. Synthetic and premix are not recommended unless oil metering pump is removed. Premix and oil metering pump it’s over saturating everything which could lead to premature wear on fuel pump, and faster carbon build up so… if you have a pump drive how it is no premix if oil metering pump is removed run synthetic for engine oil and premix your fuel
My Rx-8 story: bought a 2004 in 2008, right when gas was as expensive as its ever been. Had 30k or so miles on it. The funnest car to take to redline, hug corners. Drove it until it had 1k or so miles left on motor warranty and sold it noting "still has warranty" 😂Never had a problem and kept maintenance up. Loved that car.
Mine was 2005 bought year old. Had so many problems and mutiple lights always lit up on the dash 😂. Good thing it had a 4 year warranty as about a month left on it, it died and needed a new engine😂. After that had little issues except the check engine light came on and off the last couple years, easy fix put duck tap over the light😂. Was a fun car to drive when it wasnt in the shop😬.
RX-8 owner- honestly, I've pulled my engine, and am going to pull it again to do some port work. People do say it's like BDSM and CBT, BUT. I have worked on Honda's, Ford's, and other vehicles.. and let me tell you. These cars are so easy to work on. Engineers had a brain, any American car I've ever touched has made me want to kms though lmfao. Love these things.
The RX-8 is such a cool car. My father bought one new in 2005 and the Apex seals finally failed in 2015 at 180k miles. We debated replacing the engine with a rebuilt one. In the end he sold it for $3k as a roller and the new owner was a Mazda tech that rebuilt it and put it back on the road. And eventually used it for auto cross or some racing.
I'm super impressed that the seals lasted so long, I thought it was basically guaranteed they failed at 80k miles. Seems like he drove it carefully and took good care of it.
@@CockatooDudeusually it’s the other way around: rotary engines do not like being babied. The maintenance requires fuel mixture and more oil/lubricación than normal. It makes sense since this isn’t a piston design.
@@AlphaFlightredlining is actually good for rotaries, but they’re also more tedious when it comes to maintenance - especially later ones. It’s a trade-off.
We had two and I loved them. Basically a 4 door Miata. I always heard the engine issues were because people never spun the engines high enough, IE the automatics. 100% agree the automatics were horrible cars… that 6 speed tho… Check the fluids weekly, change the oil with full syn every 5k, and drive the piss out of it. It’s always more fun to drive a slow car fast! The only big issue we ever had was the 3rd gear synchros going out on one of the cars. I drove the RX8 more than my DB9. Totally different cars but you can have more fun in the RX8 without reaching “straight to jail” speeds 😂
good question. I forgot Mazda recommended avoiding full synthetic oil on the RX7 and other rotary vehicles. My comment had the RX8 in mind specifically, and I ran Full Synthetic because of the extreme temperatures rotary engines are known for. Synthetic oils hold up much better to heat. Seems there are a lot of Internet opinions on conventional versus synthetic oils in these rotary motors. Thing to consider is, the rotary motor injects oil into the combustion chamber, so the other benefit I always thought about was full synthetic oil should burn cleaner and have less deposits. With that said, some sites are saying full synthetic oils burn less clean than conventional counterparts. I find that very hard to believe, but I guess it also depends on how the oil is constructed. The big killer of the rotary engine was carbon deposits, specifically on the Apex seals. The rotary motor walks a fine line of injecting oil into the cylinder to lubricate the seals without having the fuel wash everything off completely. Racing beat has an interesting article where they talk about using full synthetic fluids in all of their classic race car rotary engines and they never had any issues with where. The engines actually ran 5 to 10° cooler in their testing. On the race car RX eight I had, I replaced the spark plugs on a yearly basis. I never saw any signs of crazy deposits building up on those plugs. On the street car RX eight, we ran full synthetic for 40+ thousand miles and never saw any issues with it. With all that said, if I’m wrong and synthetic oils leave harmful deposits in the engine when they are burned, then they may not be a good idea after all. The question is, are those deposits worse than the side effects of conventional oils breaking down due to extremely high temperatures in these engines? 🤷🏼♂️
That’s why I ditched the Reneses and put in an REW. It’s a great handling fun car. And yes it causes me enough pain now to where I don’t have to cut myself anymore.
The 13b-MSP has better housing than 13b-REW, but REW has better rotor and apex seal than MSP. Many rotary mechanics use this recipe to create more reliable rotary engine
Sunvisors work perfectly fine. The sun doesn't go through on the angle, but if you tilt down your head while waiting for lights to go green, you can see them. Been driving mine for 3 years now, never had any issues with sun messing my view.
It usually is called "Thin (colour) Line" not just "(colour) line" blue is for law enforcement, red is fire service, grey is corrections, green is military, yellow/gold is dispatchers & white is EMS. The reason it's a thin line is because it's supposed to represent the few who dedicate their time and lives to protect the general public (top) from "chaos" (bottom). So effectively it represent the thin line between the public and the dangers held at bay
I know it’s just a suicide car but I’ve been in love with the RX-8 since my childhood and still would love too own one. That being said, financially I can’t willingly throw myself into a cash chasm because the car is trying to off itself constantly.
They're not quite that bad. But you can make them reliable. Just budget for two extra RX-8's so you can upgrade the oil and cooling systems. Once you get those two sorted, just regular maintenance and a yearly engine refresh.
It only offs itself of the owner neglect's it. So thats why they suggest buying a good shell to throw a remanufactured(rebuilt) engine into it. Then take care of it.
Fanboys will pretend statistics and trends don’t exist or matter and say “bUt iTs noT tHaT bAd”, I swear I would see the same shit in a Range Rover video, probably the worst track record ever.
What's crazy to me is that you would think people would buy the blown ones and just swap them with the rx7 13b on a standalone. It should fit perfectly and have even more space in the bay for cooling.
Problem with swapping in a REW engine instead of the Renesis is that these days most 13b REW's are not much more reliable than the Renesis because of the age. You'll end up rebuilding it and doing the same mods and the same upgrades to it that you'd do to the Renesis to make it reliable. And you'll still be premixing...
Our previous tenant had a very clean RX8 with huge fake BBS rx, he kept it about a year he was always driving his gf pos jeep patriot because he was scared of it because it has "signs" of imminent failure, he finally exchanged it for another oil burner, a very shitty 2.0T A4 with a nasty ground effects kit... Some people have such a luck finding creampuffs 😂
I don't know what I'd do without this channel. You all keep me so entertained, love the discord too. I was wondering if anyone has a link to the 350z, 350z song? I don't own one but would like to blast it out of my nissan whenever I see one.
Midnight here. Can't sleep. You guys making me laugh my ass off surely can't be helping, but you guys are just too addicting to stop listening to. I love it!!!
when I used to smoke the first cigarette I was given was a camel crush smoked those with out popping the mental zit, cause I hated menthol for 2 years vaped for a year after than and am now 3 months clean. Cravings didn't go away tho send help
I have a love hate relationship with RX8s. On one hand it's a amazing handling car for hitting the touge with all the boys, on the other hand... it's an RX-8. Maybe one with a K20 swap or something would be cool
I had one in highschool, and I can tell you it's still more reliable and fun than a german car, my b5 s4 and 335i were both far worse in terms of reliability
For a few months in 2010 I had the privilege of driving this chariot in 6 speed grand touring trim with around 30k miles on it, thoroughly enjoyed it. Couldn't fathom actually owning one. I smoke newports.
I'll come in to defend the NC miata that you guys seem to hate. In 2009 they had a big update. Forged internals, higher rev limit, suspension changes, lowered over an inch I believe. There is probably more but NC2 and NC3 are much better than 05 to 08 model years. Jason Caminsa said same thing as you guys till he drove an nc2.
Set up on the right suspension and tires, these have the ability to handle like they are on rails. Yea they are slow, but they can take corners like no other
@@bitchesihatethey are significantly better than most cars of the era. I believe top gear said they were on par with the m3, and are a fraction of the price of just about anything sporty that came from Japan in the 2000s
The RX8 is the ideal target for an LS3 or LFX/LGX swap. You used to be able to be all-in for an RX8 with a swap for around $10K if you did the labor yourself and sourced used parts.
It's me, I'm the man who is cursed to absolutely love these cars. The rx8 as well as the generation 3 mitsubishi eclipse are my dream cars. Rest my soul
This is absolutely nonsense. The Renesis is the BEST and most reliable rotary ever made, notably the S2 (09-11). But what do I know, I don't put bs youtube videos together.
@@ve2430I don’t know why you’d complain bro, it will hold off the skyrocketing value you see on other sports cars of the same era. I wish my favourite cars and engines were downplayed in the same way these are.
Former RX8 owner smoker. And Turkish Golds are the answer. And you can't cut them off cold (flood it) and if you cut them off at temp and the seals are on the way out you have to wait like a half hour before it will restart. Hence why you need a good battery. And the RX8 and the NC Miata share the same chassis. The NC Miata is a reliable RX8 with roughly the same HP
What about Genesis coupes? I always liked them, specially the pre-facelift, and wanted the 2.0 turbo (4G63 based i think?) The design of them are lovely, sadly it never got the right amount of attention for the aftermarket it seems.
If nothing else they are insanely easy to work on. I pulled the front clip, engine, and trans out of a donor car in 60 minutes flat (2nd time ever doing it)
got my rx8 a week ago not running because crank shaft position sensor needed relearned. did that didn't run found out previous owner bypassed the clutched ignition switch because they wanted a pushbutton. the bypass in question was a looped exposed wire in the connector got the original switch back in got it to run after pulling plugs to unflood it been driving it ever since and she passed the compression test with flying colors which makes me believe they did indeed get the engine rebuilt not long ago
Owning a RX8 is like when Peter from Family Guy put his peen into a pencil sharpener. It's tempting to do but man you'll be in a world of hell afterwards.
Here the little corner of Europe where I live. These are like the only affordable and clean Japanese sports car right now. Most relatively clean Japanese sports cars are gone within 2 weeks for the absolute premium. Those rx-8's are on the internet for months on end. People do a quick Google search, and are like nah I'd rather not buy this.
so in the country I am from rx8 are around $2600 and if you are extremely lucky you might get a rx7 for around $15000 but they go for around $25k. so yes we buy Rx-8
The rx8 is jdm entrapment just like the 3000gt, they are cheap, look great, and when they work they are really cool, but they never work, oftentimes people buy them not knowing this, and just wanting to be jaydeeemm as fuck bro, and ruin the car. Anyways great vid as always, and keep on keeping it real
I just subscribed to your discord channel. Wow! What an awesome experience that was. Not sure exactly who I was talking to there initially but someone replied to my answer to this question, "say a car you hate for verification" I said, "any *ucking Saturn. They suck!" They replied "they said car (saturn)". I said, "Yeah okay. What do you think I meant, the fucking planet?" Lol
I have one that has been in a wreck and is on mptor #2 it runs mint and i have a guage to watch water temps accurately and a fan switch kit to keep it cooler. It will blow up eventually. I know it will, however its still more reliable than an sti lol
I mean they are dope Not as well built as the rx7s. But if we’ll taken care of by someone with atleast a general knowledge of rotaries will be alright… Known enough ppl who had em. I had one for a summer and sold it to a kid I knew from my car club. It’s still running. With near 120k Love the channel y’all are one of my favorites. Y’all are real. Would love to see more domestics tho
Y’all really need to do some research on the facelift NC Miata, you can mod the shit out of them, they have super beefy engine internals from the factory they redline at 7,500 rpm but fuel cut is at 7,700. They’re basically better than an S2000 in every way with just a couple thousand in mods, and considering how expensive S2000s are getting that’s really not a bad deal. I’d own one right now if I could fit in them but unfortunately while I “fit” it’s not exactly what I would call daily driver material 😅.
My comment yesterday was somehow deleted. Here again. My 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 is insured as a classic car for $50,000 USD with no depreciation. I bought it new in 2008 for $32,000 USD. Only 1000 40th Anniversary Editions RX8 were made for the USA, and well kept ones are returning good auction prices. Another 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 fetched $42,000 USD at a classic car auction in 2021. Look it up if you doubt it. FYI, I have owned seven rotary Mazdas since the Seventies; one RX3, two RX4, all three generations of RX7, and my 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8. Two of my RX7 were race-modified by Racing Beat. I have easily over a million rotary miles driven on street and track. My RX8 has upgraded mods from Mazdaspeed, Black Halo Racing, Pettit Racing, Racing Beat, Koyo-Rad, Rotary Performance and more. I have also owned a modified 2008 Mazdaspeed3 GT and other brands of performance cars. But NOTHING drives or thrills like a rotary. Properly cared for and spiritly driven, they will return many years and countless miles of smiles. Cheers
@@Psyrecx The 40th Anniversary Edition had different, and exclusive equipment from other 2008 RX8, dont you know that. there were 37,000+ RX8 sold in the USA from 2004-2011, but only 1000 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 sold. With 1357 Shinka RX8 sold over two years, the 40th Anniversary Edition were the most rare RX8 model of all, just a fact. As far as classic car insurance companies and classic car auctions are concerned, ONLY the 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 are considered rare enough to get over $42K and more at auction and get insured for $50k. That are the facts not your fake news, do the research and see the reality, whether or not you believe it. Mine is insured as a classic car for $50K with no depreciation , just a fact. Another 40th Anniversary edition sold for over $42K at a classic car auction. No other RX8 models are getting that value. rarity counts, whether or not you believe it or not. Do better research. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8
@@6gwilliams You're just making s**t up, because you have, had, or fangirl about one. They're not that special, plain and simple. Mazda made all sorts of special editions, the world over. The anniversary is just a basic b***h version. Hell, they're not even that desirable. The R3s are more wanted. FFS, mine is severely more rare, and isn't anything to brag about.
I really wish Mazda had made an RX-5 by putting that engine into the NC body. I've had enough 2-strokes in my life, I'm sure I could keep that engine alive on premix. The stock system dribbled dirty 4-stroke motor oil into the apex seals at an effective ratio of ~350:1. My Kawasaki would be toast in 20 miles if I did that to it.
There are also parts to use the stock oil injector with a reservoir, and to adjust the ratio. That way you can use marine DFI oil which is available in enormous quantities and is ashless so won't wear the apex seals, and is designed to lubricate in engines that run 100:1 or greater ratios. Then you don't have to worry about full serve gas stations, and all you have to do is refill a reservoir. And you use less oil, and it's precisely metered. That would be my choice of how to do it.
@@theodorgiosan2570 Exactly. I have multiple old 2-strokes with oil injection as well as premix. I'm not afraid of either, but reservoir injection would be very convenient. Mazda should have set them up that way from the factory, just like the motorcycle companies did. They knew motor oil burns incredibly dirty. A clean TCW3 marine injector oil is the correct choice.
@@JETZcorp If one wants to use the stock setup, the only way to make it work is to use an aircraft oil, preferably one intended for radial engines like Aeroshell 120, but alternatively Aeroshell 15w50 or Phillips XC 20w50. They are ashless oils like a 2 stroke oil and burn cleanly, as most aircraft engines burn quite a bit of oil. I have seen a 12A at the airport that has run on Aeroshell since new. 330,000 miles on it 5 years ago and I still see it around. Original owner, aircraft mechanic. Buys oil right there at the airport and uses an aircraft oil filter as well.
@@theodorgiosan2570 That's good information. I knew airplanes burned oil but didn't figure the oil was anything special aside from the typical aviation "everything costs 10x what it should" tax.
@@JETZcorp Yes the oil is all ashless and it is also dispersant only, not detergent. Some like the Aeroshell 15w50 which I find also works well in vintage Subaru engines, have an ashless EP additive as well, tricresyl phosphate or now triphenyl phosphate. Which is a better EP additive than ZDDP and does not leave deposits when burned. These oils have zero metallic content whatsoever, which is also important on airplanes with regards to accurate oil analysis. They are also not particularly expensive. There are plenty of car oils that cost more than most airplane oils. Jet oils are a different story, those are ridiculously priced. Another good trick is that aviation phosphate ester hydraulic fluid works as brake fluid in a car. And is cheaper and better than most racing brake fluids. Compatible with the same seal materials. Also is purple and turns yellow if contaminated with water. Has an insanely high boiling point, like high enough to make 4 wheel drum brakes not fade at all down a steep grade. Comes in 1 gallon jugs pretty cheap. Dot 5.1 and most of the racing brake fluids are borate ester based, this stuff is related, phosphate ester based. Exxon Hyjet V is one example. Works in ABS systems as well. There are also excellent greases from the aviation world like Mobilgrease 28, which long ago used to be rebranded in a GM tube, used as the factory grease on some Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs. An excellent grease with a wear scar of only 0.6 mm. Aviation oil filters are also excellent for applications that take a Ford PH8A or other 3/4-16 thread filter. Like the heaviest duty racing filter you have ever seen. Plus a screen over the bypass valve and a pre lubricated gasket. Lots of little tricks you can learn from the aviation world.
@@RyuusanFT86 Yeah... not according to the average owner. That's why the sales were in continuous decline after the 2004s, and it's also what gave the RX-8s and the renesis engine in general a bad name. And, it's why Mazda made quite a few changes in the S2, not that S1 owners would know.
@@Psyrecx The average owner as in me and every person on reputable forums as well as tuning shops globally? M'kay kid, got any more reddit hear-say bs for me?
As a daily driver of an rx8, I can tell you right now. They’re super fun to drive; I absolutely love mine. However, once it starts breaking, you’ll become familiar with the practice of BDSM because you’ll be feeling nothing but pain and most of it will be out of your control. But other than that; Badass car that turns heads with it’s distinct sound profile.
what ur rx8 safe word
With the practice of adding 20-50W conventional oil every 1k miles and premixing 2 stroke when you fill up, it’s easy to make them last over 150k, used to work for a mechanic he owned a 2004 RX8 has 223,000 miles on the orginal engine and started with no issues, I currently bought mine nearly a year ago and I’ve been doing just that and regular maintenance, put 1600 miles since I bought it in may an absolutely no issues.
@@vukos *whispers* Apex seals… 😏
@@thatcornfedrx8guy372 Yeah definitely, most of the time people don’t know how to care for them which is why most die prematurely.
ive been bdsming with my rx8 for about a year now. almost done.
As much as RX8s get bashed for muh apex seals, they’re in progress to become the next classic because dorito and Japan.
none of them will be running by then
@@miatalife94 mine will😊
@@notdoow7851stop it lol
They're your Apex seals?
doubt it, it’s not particularly attractive and FB and FC rx7 s still don’t fetch premium prices that FD’s do
I used to flip RX8's back in high school (09/10), got to the point where I could pick one up after school on a Friday or Saturday, pull the tiny engine, do a basic rebuild if it isn't fubar, go through basic maintenance, and have it ready to sell by Sunday evening. I still have an RX8 with the original factory engine, not a replacement at 46 or 94k miles, and it's rapidly approaching 250k miles. No rebuilds, but I did yank the worthless oiler in the Renesis engine and treat it like a 2 stroke with premix on each fill up, which with a rotary is more often than should be getting like 18-20mpg (mostly highway around here in rural BFE Midwest).
If you understand how a rotary works, they're not that bad when it comes to reliability. I'd take an RX8 I maintained over most Subarus. That said, I have another RX8, but that one has a turbocharged Ford 3.0L SHO V6 that's insane fun to drive. They were solid chassis for swaps before cars like the FR-S/BRZ/86 came around. One reason they were solid picks is you could get a straight car for like 500 bucks around the 46k mile marker for drivers on average, where lots of cars were blowing up due to the bad/weak oiler and ignorance on how to take care of the engine.
I also have a RX8 at 72700 miles, how tf did you get it to run 250k miles? Looking for actual advice
@@Dacraft_190k on two of my oem engines. Remove oil metering pump.(doesn’t burn oil from pan). Allow the car to properly warm up (let it idle till it drops below 1000 and drive till the coolant needle stops moving *operation temp. Redline a week. And try to operate the car around 3k for cruising. The engine needs to spin so the oil can properly circulate. And maintenance
@@Dacraft_note once you remove oil metering pump you would need to run 2stroke oil. And then run 10-30 synthetic. Synthetic and premix are not recommended unless oil metering pump is removed. Premix and oil metering pump it’s over saturating everything which could lead to premature wear on fuel pump, and faster carbon build up so… if you have a pump drive how it is no premix if oil metering pump is removed run synthetic for engine oil and premix your fuel
That is awesome. Because I also have rebuilt multiple 8s and own a 93 3.2L SHO. How did you do the swap?
My Rx-8 story: bought a 2004 in 2008, right when gas was as expensive as its ever been. Had 30k or so miles on it. The funnest car to take to redline, hug corners. Drove it until it had 1k or so miles left on motor warranty and sold it noting "still has warranty" 😂Never had a problem and kept maintenance up. Loved that car.
Mine was 2005 bought year old. Had so many problems and mutiple lights always lit up on the dash 😂. Good thing it had a 4 year warranty as about a month left on it, it died and needed a new engine😂. After that had little issues except the check engine light came on and off the last couple years, easy fix put duck tap over the light😂. Was a fun car to drive when it wasnt in the shop😬.
And the next owner didn't take care of it and it blew up on him or the 3rd owner and car gets a bad rap.
RX-8 owner- honestly, I've pulled my engine, and am going to pull it again to do some port work.
People do say it's like BDSM and CBT, BUT. I have worked on Honda's, Ford's, and other vehicles.. and let me tell you. These cars are so easy to work on. Engineers had a brain, any American car I've ever touched has made me want to kms though lmfao. Love these things.
The RX-8 is such a cool car. My father bought one new in 2005 and the Apex seals finally failed in 2015 at 180k miles.
We debated replacing the engine with a rebuilt one. In the end he sold it for $3k as a roller and the new owner was a Mazda tech that rebuilt it and put it back on the road. And eventually used it for auto cross or some racing.
I'm super impressed that the seals lasted so long, I thought it was basically guaranteed they failed at 80k miles. Seems like he drove it carefully and took good care of it.
@@CockatooDudeusually it’s the other way around: rotary engines do not like being babied. The maintenance requires fuel mixture and more oil/lubricación than normal. It makes sense since this isn’t a piston design.
😬 to each their own opinion..
A rx8 is good in theory but because some people treat them hondas and beat them and do no maintenance
The car actually does better if you beat them a bit.
But, you must keep up on maintenance.
Rx8 is garbage as a sports car and worse as a daily. Where are they "good"?
No you're thinking of Subaru's 😂
U mean you can't treat it like every other cars?
@@AlphaFlightredlining is actually good for rotaries, but they’re also more tedious when it comes to maintenance - especially later ones.
It’s a trade-off.
We had two and I loved them. Basically a 4 door Miata. I always heard the engine issues were because people never spun the engines high enough, IE the automatics.
100% agree the automatics were horrible cars… that 6 speed tho…
Check the fluids weekly, change the oil with full syn every 5k, and drive the piss out of it. It’s always more fun to drive a slow car fast!
The only big issue we ever had was the 3rd gear synchros going out on one of the cars.
I drove the RX8 more than my DB9. Totally different cars but you can have more fun in the RX8 without reaching “straight to jail” speeds 😂
Hummmmmm RX8 and a DB9
Both cars from need for speed carbon
People don't understand how fun usable power is
Full syn? I’ve always heard you should never put synthetic oil in a rotary.
good question. I forgot Mazda recommended avoiding full synthetic oil on the RX7 and other rotary vehicles.
My comment had the RX8 in mind specifically, and I ran Full Synthetic because of the extreme temperatures rotary engines are known for. Synthetic oils hold up much better to heat.
Seems there are a lot of Internet opinions on conventional versus synthetic oils in these rotary motors. Thing to consider is, the rotary motor injects oil into the combustion chamber, so the other benefit I always thought about was full synthetic oil should burn cleaner and have less deposits.
With that said, some sites are saying full synthetic oils burn less clean than conventional counterparts. I find that very hard to believe, but I guess it also depends on how the oil is constructed.
The big killer of the rotary engine was carbon deposits, specifically on the Apex seals.
The rotary motor walks a fine line of injecting oil into the cylinder to lubricate the seals without having the fuel wash everything off completely.
Racing beat has an interesting article where they talk about using full synthetic fluids in all of their classic race car rotary engines and they never had any issues with where. The engines actually ran 5 to 10° cooler in their testing.
On the race car RX eight I had, I replaced the spark plugs on a yearly basis. I never saw any signs of crazy deposits building up on those plugs. On the street car RX eight, we ran full synthetic for 40+ thousand miles and never saw any issues with it.
With all that said, if I’m wrong and synthetic oils leave harmful deposits in the engine when they are burned, then they may not be a good idea after all. The question is, are those deposits worse than the side effects of conventional oils breaking down due to extremely high temperatures in these engines? 🤷🏼♂️
Do NOT use synthetic in a stock rotary. Sohn adapter + idemitsu premix + BHR ignition coils and she'll run happy til 100k.
That’s why I ditched the Reneses and put in an REW. It’s a great handling fun car.
And yes it causes me enough pain now to where I don’t have to cut myself anymore.
Lol
... cooling system upgrades stonks
Also premixing XD
The 13b-MSP has better housing than 13b-REW, but REW has better rotor and apex seal than MSP.
Many rotary mechanics use this recipe to create more reliable rotary engine
Should have stuck with the MSP. More reliable without that turbo bs and vacuum hose spaghetti
Sunvisors work perfectly fine. The sun doesn't go through on the angle, but if you tilt down your head while waiting for lights to go green, you can see them. Been driving mine for 3 years now, never had any issues with sun messing my view.
If a tree fell on an rx8, what was the tree doing in the kitchen 😂😂😂😂
I showed my cousin the intro of this video, it was so good that he was on the floor foaming out the mouth
It usually is called "Thin (colour) Line" not just "(colour) line" blue is for law enforcement, red is fire service, grey is corrections, green is military, yellow/gold is dispatchers & white is EMS. The reason it's a thin line is because it's supposed to represent the few who dedicate their time and lives to protect the general public (top) from "chaos" (bottom). So effectively it represent the thin line between the public and the dangers held at bay
Quite a rainbow flag im glad they all have a non hetero little club
I know it’s just a suicide car but I’ve been in love with the RX-8 since my childhood and still would love too own one. That being said, financially I can’t willingly throw myself into a cash chasm because the car is trying to off itself constantly.
They're not quite that bad. But you can make them reliable. Just budget for two extra RX-8's so you can upgrade the oil and cooling systems. Once you get those two sorted, just regular maintenance and a yearly engine refresh.
It only offs itself of the owner neglect's it. So thats why they suggest buying a good shell to throw a remanufactured(rebuilt) engine into it. Then take care of it.
Buy a good one and trust it right and you’ll be fine. They drive absolutely sublimely when rung out too 👌
That car is like a borderline big titty goth gf . if you hate yourself take it.
Fanboys will pretend statistics and trends don’t exist or matter and say “bUt iTs noT tHaT bAd”, I swear I would see the same shit in a Range Rover video, probably the worst track record ever.
I’ll admit, the rotary isn’t for everyone. But hot damn do I want one! It’d complete my Mazda garage. 😊
You can always get one of the earlier (non -FD) rx7s, great little cars!
Imagine for a moment they had introduced a turbocharged variant labeled along mazdaspeed line
NO FUCKING WAY MY CAR WAS IN THIS VIDEO
What's crazy to me is that you would think people would buy the blown ones and just swap them with the rx7 13b on a standalone. It should fit perfectly and have even more space in the bay for cooling.
Or just kswap them, I know its the basic go to swap but there's no better candidate then the rx-8 as it has a great chassis.
hard to daily something like that when you need to pass emissions to register the car which makes it too much of a "toy" for most people
@@jaredthrockmorton2025 This why it's best to live in a state with no emissions or inspections.
These were originally suppose to be a 3 rotor but they scrapped it im pretty sure.
Problem with swapping in a REW engine instead of the Renesis is that these days most 13b REW's are not much more reliable than the Renesis because of the age. You'll end up rebuilding it and doing the same mods and the same upgrades to it that you'd do to the Renesis to make it reliable. And you'll still be premixing...
They're like the one car that the ls1 swap meme is actually a good option
Our previous tenant had a very clean RX8 with huge fake BBS rx, he kept it about a year he was always driving his gf pos jeep patriot because he was scared of it because it has "signs" of imminent failure, he finally exchanged it for another oil burner, a very shitty 2.0T A4 with a nasty ground effects kit... Some people have such a luck finding creampuffs 😂
I loved my rx8 but sadly being broke outta high-school I had to sell it because I couldn't rebuild the engine.
"Is this guy a wanderer from Tokyo Extreme Racer??"
Oh, this is my crowd, all right.
I concour; i still “OWN THE GAME”……
bought mine a few years ago with 70k miles. It's at 90k now and I've been lucky enough to have no issues.
It's around like 100-120k they start having issues from what I've mainly heard
And most of the ones i see for sale around that mileage have a blown engine or have had a rebuild recently
I don't know what I'd do without this channel. You all keep me so entertained, love the discord too. I was wondering if anyone has a link to the 350z, 350z song? I don't own one but would like to blast it out of my nissan whenever I see one.
lil cargo got locked up, soon as hes out we'll get him on spotify
@@vukos thanks vukos I thought about just ripping the song out the intro but I'd love to have the full version. Pls don't forget. Free lil cargo
As an owner of multiple rx8s, I could listen to people shit on them all day.
Midnight here. Can't sleep. You guys making me laugh my ass off surely can't be helping, but you guys are just too addicting to stop listening to. I love it!!!
Damn, Feed is dead accurate on the cigarette thing. My buddy in high school had an 04 RX-8 Shinka and smoked Camel Crushes.
when I used to smoke the first cigarette I was given was a camel crush smoked those with out popping the mental zit, cause I hated menthol for 2 years vaped for a year after than and am now 3 months clean. Cravings didn't go away tho send help
Now that guy that you offered 10 grand for is going to post a new ad saying I know what I have 10K firm
I have a love hate relationship with RX8s. On one hand it's a amazing handling car for hitting the touge with all the boys, on the other hand... it's an RX-8. Maybe one with a K20 swap or something would be cool
A K20 swap sounds like a great idea. That’s what I’m thinking of doing once I have enough money for a good RX-8 shell.
Yeah I've been thinking a k swap or maybe a junkyard Ls if there's enough room under the hood.
You never owned one so stfu
@@cartershutler44ls fits perfect in there and there are kits
Funniest car report yet
Say you never owned or properly maintained an RX-8 without saying it
Do g35s the market is stupid rn. Their ranging from 5-6 to like 15-18k
all of my homies hate rx8s
frfr? ong?
I had one in highschool, and I can tell you it's still more reliable and fun than a german car, my b5 s4 and 335i were both far worse in terms of reliability
My e46 is very reliable. Just like my rx8.
I have a k24 on a stand and an rx8 shell is only $1500 where im at...
For a few months in 2010 I had the privilege of driving this chariot in 6 speed grand touring trim with around 30k miles on it, thoroughly enjoyed it. Couldn't fathom actually owning one. I smoke newports.
I'll come in to defend the NC miata that you guys seem to hate. In 2009 they had a big update. Forged internals, higher rev limit, suspension changes, lowered over an inch I believe. There is probably more but NC2 and NC3 are much better than 05 to 08 model years. Jason Caminsa said same thing as you guys till he drove an nc2.
They are good cars, I am the person who wanted to trade theirs for the NC Miata lmao
Rx8 and NC miata share the same chassis
Thanks for telling me about crippled masters, just checked out the trailer and I'm definitely going to watch it later
Set up on the right suspension and tires, these have the ability to handle like they are on rails. Yea they are slow, but they can take corners like no other
So like, every other readily available tuner car of the 90s and early 2000s… wow you’re getting real controversial…
@@bitchesihatethey are significantly better than most cars of the era. I believe top gear said they were on par with the m3, and are a fraction of the price of just about anything sporty that came from Japan in the 2000s
You girls know f all
Best handling chasis period
Holy shit, My Dad works at S12 as well!
Average rx8 smoker smokes Menthol Lights. XD
The RX8 is the ideal target for an LS3 or LFX/LGX swap. You used to be able to be all-in for an RX8 with a swap for around $10K if you did the labor yourself and sourced used parts.
We don't mind our cars being made fun of, because we're just happy to be included :')
RX-8 also featured in X-MEN 2 movie LOL!
It's me, I'm the man who is cursed to absolutely love these cars. The rx8 as well as the generation 3 mitsubishi eclipse are my dream cars. Rest my soul
This is absolutely nonsense. The Renesis is the BEST and most reliable rotary ever made, notably the S2 (09-11). But what do I know, I don't put bs youtube videos together.
This... keep spreading the truth. True owners know. Internet destroyed the reputation of these cars.
@@ve2430I don’t know why you’d complain bro, it will hold off the skyrocketing value you see on other sports cars of the same era. I wish my favourite cars and engines were downplayed in the same way these are.
Maybe because I own it and would like it to be worth 5 times what I payed for it? @@samihookings8241
Former RX8 owner smoker. And Turkish Golds are the answer. And you can't cut them off cold (flood it) and if you cut them off at temp and the seals are on the way out you have to wait like a half hour before it will restart. Hence why you need a good battery. And the RX8 and the NC Miata share the same chassis. The NC Miata is a reliable RX8 with roughly the same HP
As an RX-8 owner, I feel attacked lol
i drift my rx8 and it drives amazing i got knuckles and coilovers and it does everything perfect its so smooth
What number motor swap u on lul
So glad that one blue rx8 got Korean bbq’d
The Tokyo Xtreme Racer Zero Wanderer Comment had me on the floor 😂
What about Genesis coupes? I always liked them, specially the pre-facelift, and wanted the 2.0 turbo (4G63 based i think?) The design of them are lovely, sadly it never got the right amount of attention for the aftermarket it seems.
@TheRealCatoftons of aftermarket for the 2nd gen. Seen a lot of modded ones especially the 2.0T
If nothing else they are insanely easy to work on. I pulled the front clip, engine, and trans out of a donor car in 60 minutes flat (2nd time ever doing it)
@@codybigbee2957 How are those engines tho? Are they reliable? Sux that theres no real aftermarket for them, cuz they deserve so much more attention.
@@kingnorlenmy 2012 runs great no issues other than normal maintenance.
I did a track day (Brands Hatch) in a friends low mileage one and god damn they drive well on track
got my rx8 a week ago not running because crank shaft position sensor needed relearned. did that didn't run found out previous owner bypassed the clutched ignition switch because they wanted a pushbutton. the bypass in question was a looped exposed wire in the connector got the original switch back in got it to run after pulling plugs to unflood it been driving it ever since and she passed the compression test with flying colors which makes me believe they did indeed get the engine rebuilt not long ago
Holy f this shit is funny! Rx8 is comedy gold. Still secretly like them tho.
Thank you for showing me crippled masters, you can watch it on TH-cam for free. Fun movie to watch
Owning a RX8 is like when Peter from Family Guy put his peen into a pencil sharpener. It's tempting to do but man you'll be in a world of hell afterwards.
Nah, just budget for three of the car you're buying. One to buy, two to upgrade oil and cooling system.
Here the little corner of Europe where I live. These are like the only affordable and clean Japanese sports car right now. Most relatively clean Japanese sports cars are gone within 2 weeks for the absolute premium. Those rx-8's are on the internet for months on end. People do a quick Google search, and are like nah I'd rather not buy this.
Knew a guy in college who had one of these and it was leaking coolant and sounded like it was going to blow up at any minute 😂
Net gear is hilarious
Tokyo extreme racer was my favorite game ever
That shout out hit me with some major nostalgia.
Starting the vid off with a jon lajoie reference i love it
9:43 they smoke "Mountain King" cuz most their $ is going toward a new engine 😂
Yall should definetly do one on Speed 3's.
I’d whip the donk rx-8 fr fr.
No 🧢 on god
If Mazda did this with the miata engine they would sell like hotcakes for real. Id buy one if I found one swapped. Missed potential for sure
crazy seeing these prices on 100k+ mile cars and i sold my 55k mile clean title manual one for $5k
Doesn't get any better than this
My dad tried to get me to buy a RX8 as my first car when I was 16. It was $1,500. Dodged a massive bullet lmao
Man why didn't they make the wheels triangles
fugggggggggg
so in the country I am from rx8 are around $2600 and if you are extremely lucky you might get a rx7 for around $15000 but they go for around $25k.
so yes we buy Rx-8
My 4 year old child had a seizure because of the intro. Thanks! Also nice vid.
The rx8 is jdm entrapment just like the 3000gt, they are cheap, look great, and when they work they are really cool, but they never work, oftentimes people buy them not knowing this, and just wanting to be jaydeeemm as fuck bro, and ruin the car. Anyways great vid as always, and keep on keeping it real
>look great
This is false
I just subscribed to your discord channel. Wow! What an awesome experience that was. Not sure exactly who I was talking to there initially but someone replied to my answer to this question, "say a car you hate for verification" I said, "any *ucking Saturn. They suck!" They replied "they said car (saturn)". I said, "Yeah okay. What do you think I meant, the fucking planet?" Lol
I have one that has been in a wreck and is on mptor #2 it runs mint and i have a guage to watch water temps accurately and a fan switch kit to keep it cooler. It will blow up eventually. I know it will, however its still more reliable than an sti lol
Love the tokyo extreme racing joke😂
I impounded one of these someone dumped. I think a junkyard bought it from the auction eventually.
I mean they are dope Not as well built as the rx7s. But if we’ll taken care of by someone with atleast a general knowledge of rotaries will be alright…
Known enough ppl who had em. I had one for a summer and sold it to a kid I knew from my car club. It’s still running. With near 120k
Love the channel y’all are one of my favorites. Y’all are real.
Would love to see more domestics tho
Y’all really need to do some research on the facelift NC Miata, you can mod the shit out of them, they have super beefy engine internals from the factory they redline at 7,500 rpm but fuel cut is at 7,700. They’re basically better than an S2000 in every way with just a couple thousand in mods, and considering how expensive S2000s are getting that’s really not a bad deal. I’d own one right now if I could fit in them but unfortunately while I “fit” it’s not exactly what I would call daily driver material 😅.
Ayo shout out to all my PARK RANGERS thank u for ur service
I have one and it is great fun to drive, and looks cool
After watching this I want to buy a cheap ass RX8 just to mod more triangles in it... Everywhere....
pipe salute is goated
BRO shoutout for the tokyo extreme racer zero reference.
Make a video talking about the worst cars you ended up going to look at in person
I have had 4 rx-7 and two rx-8 if you know what to maintain and don't baby it, there ok !
My comment yesterday was somehow deleted. Here again. My 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 is insured as a classic car for $50,000 USD with no depreciation. I bought it new in 2008 for $32,000 USD. Only 1000 40th Anniversary Editions RX8 were made for the USA, and well kept ones are returning good auction prices. Another 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 fetched $42,000 USD at a classic car auction in 2021. Look it up if you doubt it. FYI, I have owned seven rotary Mazdas since the Seventies; one RX3, two RX4, all three generations of RX7, and my 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8. Two of my RX7 were race-modified by Racing Beat. I have easily over a million rotary miles driven on street and track. My RX8 has upgraded mods from Mazdaspeed, Black Halo Racing, Pettit Racing, Racing Beat, Koyo-Rad, Rotary Performance and more. I have also owned a modified 2008 Mazdaspeed3 GT and other brands of performance cars. But NOTHING drives or thrills like a rotary. Properly cared for and spiritly driven, they will return many years and countless miles of smiles. Cheers
3,368 2008 RX-8s were sold in the US.
So, the anniversary edition is almost 1/3rd of the ones sold.
That's not that rare, or special.
@@Psyrecx The 40th Anniversary Edition had different, and exclusive equipment from other 2008 RX8, dont you know that. there were 37,000+ RX8 sold in the USA from 2004-2011, but only 1000 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 sold. With 1357 Shinka RX8 sold over two years, the 40th Anniversary Edition were the most rare RX8 model of all, just a fact. As far as classic car insurance companies and classic car auctions are concerned, ONLY the 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 are considered rare enough to get over $42K and more at auction and get insured for $50k. That are the facts not your fake news, do the research and see the reality, whether or not you believe it. Mine is insured as a classic car for $50K with no depreciation , just a fact. Another 40th Anniversary edition sold for over $42K at a classic car auction. No other RX8 models are getting that value. rarity counts, whether or not you believe it or not. Do better research. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8
@@6gwilliams You're just making s**t up, because you have, had, or fangirl about one. They're not that special, plain and simple. Mazda made all sorts of special editions, the world over. The anniversary is just a basic b***h version.
Hell, they're not even that desirable. The R3s are more wanted. FFS, mine is severely more rare, and isn't anything to brag about.
I wash this channel for the odd references 😂
The Rx8 is one of the best handling cars ever made! If you think it is underpowered put a Fd Rx7 engine in it
what site do you guys stream on I wanna watch live
we stream here on youtube cuz. join us on the discord for when we announce the live streams
+1 for the txr reference
Rx8 is a 4 seater s2000. Engine issues are the main reasons to avoid it.
There goes your guys Saturday Night Live chances. Now you can only host.
where the dawgz at
LS swapped RX-8's are insane though XD
What's more reliable a used 04-07 Subaru or a used Rx8?
nope.
@@sj380wastaken good choice
honestly the subaru, my 2004 wrx never skipped a beat
i only sold it because rust
If you're lucky to get an RX-8 with oil and cooling system sorted, the RX-8. If it's stock, Subaru.
@@Dominik189 agree. Those wrx/stis love to pop motors if you even think of googling mods.
i though he was gonna say the elbows make the head >_>
My favorite video so far lol 😂
I really wish Mazda had made an RX-5 by putting that engine into the NC body. I've had enough 2-strokes in my life, I'm sure I could keep that engine alive on premix. The stock system dribbled dirty 4-stroke motor oil into the apex seals at an effective ratio of ~350:1. My Kawasaki would be toast in 20 miles if I did that to it.
There are also parts to use the stock oil injector with a reservoir, and to adjust the ratio. That way you can use marine DFI oil which is available in enormous quantities and is ashless so won't wear the apex seals, and is designed to lubricate in engines that run 100:1 or greater ratios. Then you don't have to worry about full serve gas stations, and all you have to do is refill a reservoir. And you use less oil, and it's precisely metered. That would be my choice of how to do it.
@@theodorgiosan2570 Exactly. I have multiple old 2-strokes with oil injection as well as premix. I'm not afraid of either, but reservoir injection would be very convenient. Mazda should have set them up that way from the factory, just like the motorcycle companies did. They knew motor oil burns incredibly dirty. A clean TCW3 marine injector oil is the correct choice.
@@JETZcorp If one wants to use the stock setup, the only way to make it work is to use an aircraft oil, preferably one intended for radial engines like Aeroshell 120, but alternatively Aeroshell 15w50 or Phillips XC 20w50. They are ashless oils like a 2 stroke oil and burn cleanly, as most aircraft engines burn quite a bit of oil. I have seen a 12A at the airport that has run on Aeroshell since new. 330,000 miles on it 5 years ago and I still see it around. Original owner, aircraft mechanic. Buys oil right there at the airport and uses an aircraft oil filter as well.
@@theodorgiosan2570 That's good information. I knew airplanes burned oil but didn't figure the oil was anything special aside from the typical aviation "everything costs 10x what it should" tax.
@@JETZcorp Yes the oil is all ashless and it is also dispersant only, not detergent. Some like the Aeroshell 15w50 which I find also works well in vintage Subaru engines, have an ashless EP additive as well, tricresyl phosphate or now triphenyl phosphate. Which is a better EP additive than ZDDP and does not leave deposits when burned. These oils have zero metallic content whatsoever, which is also important on airplanes with regards to accurate oil analysis. They are also not particularly expensive. There are plenty of car oils that cost more than most airplane oils. Jet oils are a different story, those are ridiculously priced. Another good trick is that aviation phosphate ester hydraulic fluid works as brake fluid in a car. And is cheaper and better than most racing brake fluids. Compatible with the same seal materials. Also is purple and turns yellow if contaminated with water. Has an insanely high boiling point, like high enough to make 4 wheel drum brakes not fade at all down a steep grade. Comes in 1 gallon jugs pretty cheap. Dot 5.1 and most of the racing brake fluids are borate ester based, this stuff is related, phosphate ester based. Exxon Hyjet V is one example. Works in ABS systems as well. There are also excellent greases from the aviation world like Mobilgrease 28, which long ago used to be rebranded in a GM tube, used as the factory grease on some Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs. An excellent grease with a wear scar of only 0.6 mm. Aviation oil filters are also excellent for applications that take a Ford PH8A or other 3/4-16 thread filter. Like the heaviest duty racing filter you have ever seen. Plus a screen over the bypass valve and a pre lubricated gasket. Lots of little tricks you can learn from the aviation world.
Never flooded my RX-8.
Then again, I don't have an S1, so... I don't have a doomed engine.
Not that different.
@@RyuusanFT86 Different enough to not need several engine replacements within the first 50k miles, on average.
@@Psyrecx The S1 doesn't need that either
@@RyuusanFT86 Yeah... not according to the average owner. That's why the sales were in continuous decline after the 2004s, and it's also what gave the RX-8s and the renesis engine in general a bad name.
And, it's why Mazda made quite a few changes in the S2, not that S1 owners would know.
@@Psyrecx The average owner as in me and every person on reputable forums as well as tuning shops globally?
M'kay kid, got any more reddit hear-say bs for me?
My dream is to buy every RX-8 out there and LS swap them