At almost 60 years old, Mike’s high intensity training approach has transformed my fitness lifestyle. I now spend less time at the gym and I am seeing even more gains and overall better health benefits than before when I was doing much more “volume” and wasting hours at the gym. The main benefit for someone in my age range is the reduced risk of injury and wear and tear on my joints. The slow/strict form movement on each rep and increased time under tension (TUT) allows me to reach muscle failure in ONE set and making sure I’m not over training.
@@spidy10 Mike never used an ultra slow protocol, but always made sure that his repetitions were performed deliberately and under muscular control at all times.
Good mindset but it’s harder to keep that sort of thinking when you’ve been working out for years and have pretty maxed out your natural gains. No one wants to work out daily and eat right yet not gain muscle and strength
I had no idea Mike was living in Deland, FL when I ran into him and his brother Ray at a Wendy's restaurant there. I was awestruck as my idol was standing in front of me and I could barely talk when he asked where I worked out. I felt like a skinny little kid. I guess I was.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE John, thanks for your videos on Mike, I think there's a lot of us that were so inspired by him and it's awesome to have him revived, so to speak, and to hear his wisdom. Just imagine if he had this medium back then, how it could have changed his career and future. He'd have a gazillion followers and would be wealthy.
@@colewilson4071 Hi Cole. Agreed. Mike could have amassed a large following, and spread his word far more thoroughly, had the technology been where it is now back in his day.
Well, 15 years after I first stumbled across Mike as an overtrained volume-fanatic, I come across these gems, thanks so much, John! My own personal experience of Mike's influence is as follows. I started out training as a rugby player type physique at 180ish lbs at the age of 16 at 5'10". I had 15 inch arms before I ever touched a weight. I had pretty good potential I believe. For the first year or so I trained twice a week, simply because I was busy chasing skirt and skateboarding! I made great progress because I would simply do one exercise for each bodypart to failure (which saw me maxing out machines within four months training)....this was prior to even hearing about HIT! Unfortunately, I took the concept that more was better and ended up absolutely shredded to the bone, but lost a tonne of muscle tissue training 6 days a week with set after set. I leaned out at 155lbs which wasn't too shabby for a young lad, but through a combination of gross overtraining I ended up wasting muscle tissue at 140lbs and could not gain a bloody single pound of muscle because I was so overtrained...like a moron I carried on like this until I was almost 19 thinking I just needed to do more! In my frustration I stumbled across Mike's books (you know the ones John!)....I kid you not I scaled back to training twice a week again and I put on roughly 30lbs in 4 months, I was gobsmacked! Well, I'm 34 now (almost) and Mike helped take me from a shredded but depleted 140lb lad to a completely natural 235lb bloke (a decidedly average bodyfat of 14 percent on calipers which means I enjoy my food and live my life and that's fine by me!). I rarely train more than once a week and this has been the case for over the last 6 years especially. I tend to do full body rotating the exercises every fortnight. So for example if I do a dip one week I'd do a decline press the next. Thanks again for the uploads, John!
Yeah try and tell this directly to all the people in the comments that keep calling this a scam and that it doesn't work, lol. They just are so dogmatic and want to be in they gym doing massive amounts of sets and volume getting that pump and feeling cool cause they go to the gym every day, in the mean time all they do get is a pump and stopped gaining, then you look at them after a year and they look exactly the same. They don't even realize that one set to failure was not invented by Mike, it's been around since the beginning of modern body building in the early 19th century. They keep hearing "Don't train to failure, it takes way too long to recover" Once you start training to failure your body adapts and actually starts to recover faster than the first time you did it. I train to failure one hard set and that body part is ready to go again in 4 days sometimes 5 days. It's not the end of the world if you're not hitting that body part again in 48 hours.
To all the people doubting his 30lb gains, remember he was grossly over trained and his body was wasting away from that training. When he allowed himself to recover and took a rest his body had time to recover the muscle memory debt that had been made. It's just like how high volume lifters will take a week off of doing nothing after their meso-cycle is over, and then they magically go up in strength on their first workout.
@@robmen1402It's also because they don't have anything in their life besides going to the gym. So if you reduce gym time to such an extraordinary amount as preached here they'll lose their minds. Because they're not capable of having any other interests of note.
I do alot of driving at work and i listen to alot of his philosophy in regards to muscle building so it gets my brain involved to translate to muscle gain
I couldn't agree more with EVERYTHING said! When I get serious about training, I put the scale in the cabinet in my bathroom, and no longer weigh myself. How many of us weight ourselves EVERY time we eat something, drink something, take a piss or shit lol? What a waste of time! That number on the scale means absolutely NOTHING! 007
Wish commenters would stop trying to tear Mike down. With all the comments, I have not read a single one where the commentor tried HIT and didn't see favorable results. Let's say you tried it, and it didn't work, assume you did everything according to HIT principles, your failure to gain doesn't mean the process doesnt work for others. Keep in mind there is a personal component to bodybuilding and physical training in general. Keep training and find what works for you. Personally, I think the principles presented are at least worth considering.
I like to vary HIT training with Vince Girondas 8X8 and 10X10 routines. An entire workout with HIT is no doubt intense, but some muscle groups dont respond as well as others and need a different approach. None the less, keep experimenting with your body and find out what works best for you. Oh and also Vince's 10 8 6 15.
HIT training never really worked for me. Of course, I never had Mike actually there to instruct me how to do it properly, but I would grind reps past failure and train only once every 7 or 8 days as he prescribed. This just wasn't enough frequency for me. Now we know that muscles can recover from intense training every 48 hours, even if some DOMS is still present. So hitting the muscle once every 48 to 72 hours is more optimal for growth. It's forcing the muscle to adapt to the stimulus.
@@GoshindoTanaka Frequent bout response will build muscle faster. You must remember once a week with one max set per exercise is too much rest for the vast majority. Twice per week is almost magical compared to once per week.
Some muscles don’t respond as well as others mostly due to genetics. You can incorporate simple movements to emphasize the relative involvement of the muscles that develop more slowly.
Yes, when you're a new it's easy to add about 6 pounds of muscle in the first 3 months of hard concise training and nutrition. Once that happens the muscle gains start to slow for the rest of the year, maybe a new can put on 14 to 16 lbs of muscle to their frame in 1 year and after that it slows even more again and you will be lucky if you add 8 lbs for the whole next year. If anyone that is natty says they added more than 16 lbs of muscle in a year that is new to training or otherwise they are lying or confused. Because its never just muscle there is some fat that you have distributed and layered all over your body and if you're in shape it will look proportional and give the illusion that you're more muscular than you really are and make you think that you gained more muscle than you actually did.
Each pound is more apparent than the last, and each improvement in performance will lead to more pounds of meat than the last. So yes it seems slow but it never really goes to nothing until you are too old to recover and heal properly any more which won't be til at least the 50s unless you acutely injure yourself.
This is one of the biggest mindsets that's missing nowadays. Everybody thinks you can just hop on gear and go from a person who never lifted, to looking like a statue in a year. The only people who can make those kinds of gains are people with top genetics like Ronnie Coleman and people like that, and even then it took them yeears and yeeears of hard work, relentless nutrition (tons of it!), consistency and abuse of anabolics. If you're just a regular person with average genetics, don't expect the process to be fast. Personally, I'd rather stay natty and accept the slow gains while also keeping my gonads in their regular size :) but I don't judge anyone who uses PEDs! Hell, it's fun to watch IFBB pro shows. Let em have it all lol.
In addition to the word realistic - Mike Mentzer often used the word rational as in rational (i.e., logical) steps for training as a bodybuilder. The challenge he faced in changing minds was substantial considering this thought on the subject of the rational mind by Anatole France (1844 - 1924): Of all the ways of defining man, the worst is the one which makes him out to be a rational animal. RIP Critical Thinking.
@@molasorrosalom4846 I apologize, first off-I should’ve interpreted your question more generously… I assumed you were jumping on board with the trolls. But glycogen breaks down after meat is slaughtered, so your comparison isn’t completely right. When someone gains 30 pounds of lean mass, it is water, glycogen, and muscle-even some fat, more blood and vasculature, too, of course. Anyway, I think the return on investment was great for the time, even if he was using anabolics. Two hours a week to get to that level is amazing.
John What extra benefit does the pre-exhaustion technique have, is it really so? Studies confirm that it is not necessary (James Peter Fisher, Luke Carlson, James Steele, and Dave Smith) Thanks John
I don't think (particularly given the huge role of genetics in muscle development) that pre-exhaust offers any "extra" benefit at all. It was a technique that I believe was first written about by MuscleMag International publisher Robert Kennedy (he would claim he invented it), then picked up by Arthur Jones and incorporated into certain of his machines. Mike liked it and used it quite a bit in his training, but, since you asked me, I can only say that it's an effective technique but no more so than many others.
It allows you to push a muscle to full exhaustion (possible past full exhaustion) It also takes heavy loads off the joints in Compound lifts as you can’t lift as heavy if say chest or quads where fresh. I remember Robert Kennedy claiming to have interned it, and also bizarrely claimed to have invented the reverse pre exhaust where you do a compound before an isolation 🤣. I can’t remember if it was him who claimed the pre exhaust actually forced the body to use fresh muscles to exhaustion more than the exhausted muscle 🤔
Talk a about genetic potential - both Sergio Oliva and Mike Mentzer told me they squatted with 500# when they were 15 years old! Oh ,and thanks for mentioning that many of the photographs of Mike in this episode were created by me! The fantastic studio shot of Mike is by Jimmy Caruso, RIP! John, give me a call some time, the number is the same as it has been for 20+ years as has my email address!
You don't have to agree with MMs training philosophy to see the wisdom in what he's saying. Virtually every competitive bodybuilder says that above normal genetic potential is required to develop a competitive bodybuilder physique (even with drugs). And even if loads of volume were able to get you even 3/4 of the way there, is the time investment required worth the huge increase in narcissism combined with the minuscule increase in self esteem? I'm just disappointed MM didn't reject the idea of bodybuilding altogether
... when you think about the potential growth equalling less than 12 grams a day ( or more likely 6GPD!) it brings into focus the whole rush to the finish aspect of modern thinking... we are all looking for the magic pill, magic workout or secret formula to do something that the body can only achieve overtime and no amount of potions or powders will do that yet we get sucked into the hype and are addicted to instant gratification.
I’m 29 years old and weight 183 lbs, if I gained 10 lbs of muscle a year then in 10 years I would be 39 years old and weight 283 lbs and almost 50% of that would be pure muscle. I would look like big ramy on stage! That is an insane number of pounds of muscle a year.
Mike was saying ten pounds in a year would be considered an excellent rate of gaining (and beyond the reach of most people). He didn't indicate that this was something that would continue on in perpetuity. Most gains come to a halt after one to two years of training.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE yes I completely agree and I do think that is what mike mentzer was implying. Although I would like to add the idea that deploying consistent stacks of anabolic androgenic steroids would possible put on 5-7lbs of muscle per year after you have hit your natural peak. The problem is most bodybuilders start steroids so early they never had the chance to see what their natural peak was before the introduction of exogenous testosterone. Shawn Rhoden was 43 years old when he was crowned mr. Olympia. modern bodybuilders think it is a sprint to victory when bodybuilding is an ultra marathon of consistent gains.
Muscle is approximately 22% protein. But Mike’s point was you don’t need to eat as much protein as the bodybuilding industry, which sells it, would have you believe.
It is not like if you gain X pounds per year then you gain Y grams per day, every day. There are ups and downs. You gain some in a week, you lose some another week depending on many factors.
If you have the genetic potential to put on 20 pounds, then you will put on 20 pounds. If you don't have the genetic potential to put on 20 pounds then you won't.
God broke the mold when he made Mike Mentzer! How many here would kill to have this structure and overall look?! I would murder every one of you reading this comment LOL jk guys! 007
Mike was the best and most intelligent bodybuilder of all time, in my opinion
Easy.
he definitely should have won in 1980
He was a great salesman.
Frank Zane in my opinion ✌️
@@mattcarpenter6986 sold me and my results have been AMAZING!
I went to a seminar from this man here in Australia 40 years ago ,,i still love him ..rest in peace brother..
That's cool. Where was the seminar held?
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE to be honest i cant remember, some function place in the city ,it was when ,he was at his peak i think.....
@@simonrankin9177 Australia isnt a city mate
@@joshuas184 your correct....
@@simonrankin9177 wow you met mentzer in oz . How was it where was it .tell us your experience what you took away and how it changed you ?
At almost 60 years old, Mike’s high intensity training approach has transformed my fitness lifestyle. I now spend less time at the gym and I am seeing even more gains and overall better health benefits than before when I was doing much more “volume” and wasting hours at the gym. The main benefit for someone in my age range is the reduced risk of injury and wear and tear on my joints. The slow/strict form movement on each rep and increased time under tension (TUT) allows me to reach muscle failure in ONE set and making sure I’m not over training.
Congratulations, Pedro. And thanks for your post.
Love how Mike challenges us to be rational in our thinking process.
With one of the most beautiful symmetric physiques of all time
Thanks, Edgar!
@edgargarcia Did he also use slow cadence during his prime time ??
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE did he use slow cadence during his prime ??
@@spidy10 Mike never used an ultra slow protocol, but always made sure that his repetitions were performed deliberately and under muscular control at all times.
I no longer have any expectations. Any level of achievement is an unexpected surprise.
That sounds like good mindset to have. Gotta make you more grateful as well :)
Good mindset but it’s harder to keep that sort of thinking when you’ve been working out for years and have pretty maxed out your natural gains. No one wants to work out daily and eat right yet not gain muscle and strength
@@brianmeen2158 so true. To be honest, it's all about maintaining for me. Been on the downhill slope for a few years now.
@@demetriuscooksey7147 how old are you now?
@FatCat919 old enough to know better, but young enough to do it anyway.
I want to cry this is so good. Mike was such an amazing human. Im beginning to see him as a God. He is with God for sure. RIP Mike.
I had no idea Mike was living in Deland, FL when I ran into him and his brother Ray at a Wendy's restaurant there. I was awestruck as my idol was standing in front of me and I could barely talk when he asked where I worked out. I felt like a skinny little kid. I guess I was.
Cool story, Cole! Thanks for your post.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE John, thanks for your videos on Mike, I think there's a lot of us that were so inspired by him and it's awesome to have him revived, so to speak, and to hear his wisdom. Just imagine if he had this medium back then, how it could have changed his career and future. He'd have a gazillion followers and would be wealthy.
@@colewilson4071 Hi Cole. Agreed. Mike could have amassed a large following, and spread his word far more thoroughly, had the technology been where it is now back in his day.
He is saying stuff way beyond that time ❤
Well, 15 years after I first stumbled across Mike as an overtrained volume-fanatic, I come across these gems, thanks so much, John!
My own personal experience of Mike's influence is as follows. I started out training as a rugby player type physique at 180ish lbs at the age of 16 at 5'10". I had 15 inch arms before I ever touched a weight. I had pretty good potential I believe.
For the first year or so I trained twice a week, simply because I was busy chasing skirt and skateboarding! I made great progress because I would simply do one exercise for each bodypart to failure (which saw me maxing out machines within four months training)....this was prior to even hearing about HIT!
Unfortunately, I took the concept that more was better and ended up absolutely shredded to the bone, but lost a tonne of muscle tissue training 6 days a week with set after set. I leaned out at 155lbs which wasn't too shabby for a young lad, but through a combination of gross overtraining I ended up wasting muscle tissue at 140lbs and could not gain a bloody single pound of muscle because I was so overtrained...like a moron I carried on like this until I was almost 19 thinking I just needed to do more!
In my frustration I stumbled across Mike's books (you know the ones John!)....I kid you not I scaled back to training twice a week again and I put on roughly 30lbs in 4 months, I was gobsmacked!
Well, I'm 34 now (almost) and Mike helped take me from a shredded but depleted 140lb lad to a completely natural 235lb bloke (a decidedly average bodyfat of 14 percent on calipers which means I enjoy my food and live my life and that's fine by me!).
I rarely train more than once a week and this has been the case for over the last 6 years especially. I tend to do full body rotating the exercises every fortnight. So for example if I do a dip one week I'd do a decline press the next.
Thanks again for the uploads, John!
Thanks JP! Good to hear!
Yeah try and tell this directly to all the people in the comments that keep calling this a scam and that it doesn't work, lol. They just are so dogmatic and want to be in they gym doing massive amounts of sets and volume getting that pump and feeling cool cause they go to the gym every day, in the mean time all they do get is a pump and stopped gaining, then you look at them after a year and they look exactly the same. They don't even realize that one set to failure was not invented by Mike, it's been around since the beginning of modern body building in the early 19th century. They keep hearing "Don't train to failure, it takes way too long to recover" Once you start training to failure your body adapts and actually starts to recover faster than the first time you did it. I train to failure one hard set and that body part is ready to go again in 4 days sometimes 5 days. It's not the end of the world if you're not hitting that body part again in 48 hours.
To all the people doubting his 30lb gains, remember he was grossly over trained and his body was wasting away from that training. When he allowed himself to recover and took a rest his body had time to recover the muscle memory debt that had been made. It's just like how high volume lifters will take a week off of doing nothing after their meso-cycle is over, and then they magically go up in strength on their first workout.
@@robmen1402It's also because they don't have anything in their life besides going to the gym. So if you reduce gym time to such an extraordinary amount as preached here they'll lose their minds. Because they're not capable of having any other interests of note.
I do alot of driving at work and i listen to alot of his philosophy in regards to muscle building so it gets my brain involved to translate to muscle gain
Once again, the wisdom of Mike Mentzer! 💪📖
Thanks John, please keep 'm coming.
Listening to Mike feels like I am on a holiday, with a fresh ocean breeze😎 Love Mike.
Will do my best. Thanks for your post.
Realizing the truth- is knowledge gained- thank you Mike
Thank you JL for posting all these.
You're welcome Michael!
Again, thanks John
You're welcome, sir.
5:40 os ombros do Mike Mentzer estavam incríveis! !!
Mike is the prime example of how politics destroy the golden era
Mike Mentzer - The Red Pill of Bodybuilding
Honest Mike. One of the very few champs who revealed the truth. No vested interests.
The intro just giving me chills
Pure science and reason.
Love these uploads.
Thanks for your post
The most underrated bodybuilder
Thanks for your post.
I couldn't agree more with EVERYTHING said!
When I get serious about training, I put the scale in the cabinet in my bathroom, and no longer weigh myself.
How many of us weight ourselves EVERY time we eat something, drink something, take a piss or shit lol?
What a waste of time!
That number on the scale means absolutely NOTHING!
007
Thanks for your post, 007
Wish commenters would stop trying to tear Mike down. With all the comments, I have not read a single one where the commentor tried HIT and didn't see favorable results. Let's say you tried it, and it didn't work, assume you did everything according to HIT principles, your failure to gain doesn't mean the process doesnt work for others. Keep in mind there is a personal component to bodybuilding and physical training in general. Keep training and find what works for you. Personally, I think the principles presented are at least worth considering.
Thanks for your post.
This makes me really wonder about the recommended protein amounts suggested out there for BB
Agreed.
They are inflated because PROTEIN is big BUSINESS. Water isn't. You have to use your brain and read between the lines.
@@fender1000100 That’s why you’re better off looking at the beef industry.
They’re in the business of growing and selling muscle mass.
We want more,we want more videos
I like to vary HIT training with Vince Girondas 8X8 and 10X10 routines. An entire workout with HIT is no doubt intense, but some muscle groups dont respond as well as others and need a different approach. None the less, keep experimenting with your body and find out what works best for you. Oh and also Vince's 10 8 6 15.
Agreed I have to train arms twice a week if don't it don't grow much genetics is all
HIT training never really worked for me. Of course, I never had Mike actually there to instruct me how to do it properly, but I would grind reps past failure and train only once every 7 or 8 days as he prescribed. This just wasn't enough frequency for me. Now we know that muscles can recover from intense training every 48 hours, even if some DOMS is still present. So hitting the muscle once every 48 to 72 hours is more optimal for growth. It's forcing the muscle to adapt to the stimulus.
@@GoshindoTanaka Frequent bout response will build muscle faster. You must remember once a week with one max set per exercise is too much rest for the vast majority.
Twice per week is almost magical compared to once per week.
@@maxxxmodelz4061 I agree 100%
Some muscles don’t respond as well as others mostly due to genetics. You can incorporate simple movements to emphasize the relative involvement of the muscles that develop more slowly.
Pure logic and reason common sense the masses always go with the lie
Not only big but a beautiful physic. You want to look at him.
Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Yes, when you're a new it's easy to add about 6 pounds of muscle in the first 3 months of hard concise training and nutrition. Once that happens the muscle gains start to slow for the rest of the year, maybe a new can put on 14 to 16 lbs of muscle to their frame in 1 year and after that it slows even more again and you will be lucky if you add 8 lbs for the whole next year. If anyone that is natty says they added more than 16 lbs of muscle in a year that is new to training or otherwise they are lying or confused. Because its never just muscle there is some fat that you have distributed and layered all over your body and if you're in shape it will look proportional and give the illusion that you're more muscular than you really are and make you think that you gained more muscle than you actually did.
Each pound is more apparent than the last, and each improvement in performance will lead to more pounds of meat than the last. So yes it seems slow but it never really goes to nothing until you are too old to recover and heal properly any more which won't be til at least the 50s unless you acutely injure yourself.
This is one of the biggest mindsets that's missing nowadays. Everybody thinks you can just hop on gear and go from a person who never lifted, to looking like a statue in a year. The only people who can make those kinds of gains are people with top genetics like Ronnie Coleman and people like that, and even then it took them yeears and yeeears of hard work, relentless nutrition (tons of it!), consistency and abuse of anabolics. If you're just a regular person with average genetics, don't expect the process to be fast. Personally, I'd rather stay natty and accept the slow gains while also keeping my gonads in their regular size :) but I don't judge anyone who uses PEDs! Hell, it's fun to watch IFBB pro shows. Let em have it all lol.
In addition to the word realistic - Mike Mentzer often used the word rational as in rational (i.e., logical) steps for training as a bodybuilder. The challenge he faced in changing minds was substantial considering this thought on the subject of the rational mind by Anatole France (1844 - 1924): Of all the ways of defining man, the worst is the one which makes him out to be a rational animal. RIP Critical Thinking.
I like how Mike actually calls him Franco Columbo.
Markus Reinhardt gained 30 pounds in 16 weeks training with Mike-it’s amazing the spectrum of potential.
Now look him in jail
@@snakeeyes1662 what happened to him? All the sudden he disappeared.
@@snakeeyes1662 Snake brains, what does that have to do with it?
@@molasorrosalom4846 Wow, this really triggered people. If you need a balm for your psyche-just figure he was lying.
@@molasorrosalom4846 I apologize, first off-I should’ve interpreted your question more generously… I assumed you were jumping on board with the trolls. But glycogen breaks down after meat is slaughtered, so your comparison isn’t completely right. When someone gains 30 pounds of lean mass, it is water, glycogen, and muscle-even some fat, more blood and vasculature, too, of course. Anyway, I think the return on investment was great for the time, even if he was using anabolics. Two hours a week to get to that level is amazing.
I really want to know where to find the background music in the first 20 seconds of the clip.
Please tell me where to download it because I like it
John What extra benefit does the pre-exhaustion technique have, is it really so? Studies confirm that it is not necessary (James Peter Fisher, Luke Carlson, James Steele, and Dave Smith)
Thanks John
I don't think (particularly given the huge role of genetics in muscle development) that pre-exhaust offers any "extra" benefit at all. It was a technique that I believe was first written about by MuscleMag International publisher Robert Kennedy (he would claim he invented it), then picked up by Arthur Jones and incorporated into certain of his machines. Mike liked it and used it quite a bit in his training, but, since you asked me, I can only say that it's an effective technique but no more so than many others.
It allows you to push a muscle to full exhaustion (possible past full exhaustion)
It also takes heavy loads off the joints in Compound lifts as you can’t lift as heavy if say chest or quads where fresh.
I remember Robert Kennedy claiming to have interned it, and also bizarrely claimed to have invented the reverse pre exhaust where you do a compound before an isolation 🤣.
I can’t remember if it was him who claimed the pre exhaust actually forced the body to use fresh muscles to exhaustion more than the exhausted muscle 🤔
Talk a about genetic potential - both Sergio Oliva and Mike Mentzer told me they squatted with 500# when they were 15 years old! Oh ,and thanks for mentioning that many of the photographs of Mike in this episode were created by me! The fantastic studio shot of Mike is by Jimmy Caruso, RIP! John, give me a call some time, the number is the same as it has been for 20+ years as has my email address!
You don't have to agree with MMs training philosophy to see the wisdom in what he's saying. Virtually every competitive bodybuilder says that above normal genetic potential is required to develop a competitive bodybuilder physique (even with drugs). And even if loads of volume were able to get you even 3/4 of the way there, is the time investment required worth the huge increase in narcissism combined with the minuscule increase in self esteem? I'm just disappointed MM didn't reject the idea of bodybuilding altogether
Good post.
... when you think about the potential growth equalling less than 12 grams a day ( or more likely 6GPD!) it brings into focus the whole rush to the finish aspect of modern thinking... we are all looking for the magic pill, magic workout or secret formula to do something that the body can only achieve overtime and no amount of potions or powders will do that yet we get sucked into the hype and are addicted to instant gratification.
Thanks for your post.
I’m 29 years old and weight 183 lbs, if I gained 10 lbs of muscle a year then in 10 years I would be 39 years old and weight 283 lbs and almost 50% of that would be pure muscle. I would look like big ramy on stage! That is an insane number of pounds of muscle a year.
Mike was saying ten pounds in a year would be considered an excellent rate of gaining (and beyond the reach of most people). He didn't indicate that this was something that would continue on in perpetuity. Most gains come to a halt after one to two years of training.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE yes I completely agree and I do think that is what mike mentzer was implying. Although I would like to add the idea that deploying consistent stacks of anabolic androgenic steroids would possible put on 5-7lbs of muscle per year after you have hit your natural peak. The problem is most bodybuilders start steroids so early they never had the chance to see what their natural peak was before the introduction of exogenous testosterone. Shawn Rhoden was 43 years old when he was crowned mr. Olympia. modern bodybuilders think it is a sprint to victory when bodybuilding is an ultra marathon of consistent gains.
@@proto-t7k good points.
Yip I gained 40 pounds over 7 years natural,and it was a fight,hardest thing I've ever done
Hi... Is this the John Little who use to write articles in a lot of the popular mags .. thanks for your videos regardless..
The intro music sounds so familiar for some reason
what about the Colorado experiment with Casey Viator?
yes
Theeecare the things we need to hear and never did
12 grams of muscle growth a day ideally. Also muscle is 30 percent protein so is that less less 4 grams of protein per day that turns into muscle ?
Muscle is approximately 22% protein. But Mike’s point was you don’t need to eat as much protein as the bodybuilding industry, which sells it, would have you believe.
Nobody saw Elon? He’s been putting in the work!
It is not like if you gain X pounds per year then you gain Y grams per day, every day.
There are ups and downs. You gain some in a week, you lose some another week depending on many factors.
A common sense outlook on training and recuperation
Siempre dijo que 5 kg al año era más que bueno
5 X 5 = 25 en 5 años serás un pequeño Hércules !!!!!!
I had thought he said you could reach your genetical potential in two years?
No way,I'd say ten years based on my own experiences, I wanted it bad though.
So his hit strategy was bollocks then? How did his clients put on 26lbs in a few months????
If you have the genetic potential to put on 20 pounds, then you will put on 20 pounds. If you don't have the genetic potential to put on 20 pounds then you won't.
Juice.
But casey viator somehow gained 60lbs of solid muscle tissue in 28 days…..
Muscle memory and also being probably the greatest genetic freak of nature of all time.
God broke the mold when he made Mike Mentzer!
How many here would kill to have this structure and overall look?!
I would murder every one of you reading this comment LOL jk guys!
007
That is why bulking for people with average genetics is pointless
Traduzione in italiano please
Funny how he never mentioned the importance of steroids
Funny how that wasn’t the topic of the video.
the fucking man