That is the best Mike Menzter quote! In my opinion. You'll never know how good you might become, Unless you try, So let's get with it. Very inspiring indeed.
I love when he says nature is very stingy with the gifts it hands out. Some of you are comparing your journey to someone who is superior in building muscle. Don’t even waste your time your better off not even lifting 🔥🔥🔥
BS. Hes just another dishonest from that era that steroids were hush hush. His physique is only capable thru testosterone roids therapy. Yet he speaks as if his physique is attainable naturally thru genetics, diet and train to failure.
@manwithausername4089 I have also heard Mentzer say on multiple recordings that just because someone has poor genetics doesn't mean they shouldn't train or that they can not achieve a healthy aesthetic physique. This statement actually further supports HIT training. After all if someone is not genetically gifted with muscular proportion, why would they spend hours and hours in the gym training as if they were going to be a physique athlete.
Hi John, I was really fortunate to come across an article on December of 2020 that mentioned Mike Mentzer. It had a picture of him that to this day is still my favorite: a front shot with him “relaxed”. Ironically, I was doing research on Arnold S. trying to figure out what I could do to improve my gains. Needless to say, once I saw what Mentzer was all about I was enlightened on the spot. I already have his books, and always look for more of his stuff here on TH-cam. Please, do not let his legacy die. I certainly won’t. Hope all is well with you, sir. And thank you for uploading.
The candle that burns twice as bright only burns half as long. Mike’s light shined bright, a true genius, a beautiful & powerful mind. I really miss him. Thank God for John keeping his memory alive & educating the newer generation who don’t know who he is and don’t realize why they’re not making gains in the gym.
John.. I just learned that Joanne has past away... ... damn.. that sucks .... she was so friendly about sharing Mike stories.. I also did some business with her ordering products on her site... I just went to go see if there was an update on her site becuase I wanted to order some shirts but saw that she obviously had not came back to update the site.... I typed her name in to see if she had a new site or something, and saw she had past away... she was so nice to me... and even SENT ME RARE PICS of Mike from the 80 O' that showed better angles and such to prove he shoulda placed at LEAST in the top 3.. RIP Joanne...
That's sad to hear. Her and I had a brief email correspondence in the early days of Covid. I know John Heart was handling the consultations, but would like to see some singular individual perpetuate Mike's site.
Thank you Mike, for your words of encouragement. It's true unless you try you will never know, but by knowing the odds you can start to stack those odds in your favour. Anyone can achieve their potential you just have to work hard. Thank you Mike.
@@chaosdweller Actually, it makes perfect sense. Look at what the book says at 3:40 Perhaps he was chasing being able to tap into that. Also, I heard him losing the Olympia to Arnold made him snap, and after that it was all downhill from there. It's very sad because he was obviously brilliant, but it's often the great minds that end up "losing it", as I don't think a person of average intelligence is as prone to "breaking" as the more intelligent people. Their peaks and troughs just aren't as ample as a person of higher intelligence, so feelings, thoughts and emotions are blunted in comparison.
@Joe Toth: Apologies; I hit the wrong button and your post was hidden (disappeared?) That's just my tech ignorance coming to the fore. You had asked if the story about Arthur threatening Arnold was true. I only know of it by hearsay (so you may need to look elsewhere for better confirmation), but I do recall reading of the incident in one of Ellington Darden's more recent books, so Darden (who would have been in DeLand, Florida at the time) believed it to be true.
Yes I read that. It's in the NEW HIT book by Darden, where he oddly also speaks badly of the Mentzers, particularly Mike. He threatened to kick Arnold's ass, even though he was older and a lot smaller. Just shows Arthur Jones had a lot of balls!
A perfect example of either you have it or you don't: 1:00. My knees hurt just looking at this. I had the ability to throw a baseball 95 mph, but not to be a weightlifter, powerlifter or bodybuilder of note. So it goes.
@@ABABABABABABABABABABBBBBB You have to be able to do it and you have to want to also. Nothing can overcome genetics. If your 3’ tall your not going overcome those shortcomings to be a basketball player. That person might be able to have physical advantages in other places, but it is highly unlikely it will overcome that difference. There is a reason most basketball players are extremely tall. If gives them an advantage. We sometimes can’t do everything we want if we put our mind to it. Not everyone has the equipment to become a porn star either. Yes, you can stand out in other ways , but every advantage helps.
One aspect he missed in bodybuilding is height. Danny Padilla was just too short even though I believe he had the greatest muscular size and symmetry for his height.
@Lucien Tall, but not too tall have the advantage. When I met Mike Mentzer in 1979, he was 5' 8'' and I was 6' 2'' at 16 and went on to 6' 4'' (playing pro baseball rather than trying to be a bodybuilder).
@Lucien true, I think this is because height and having longer muscles seems to go together and as mentioned a longer muscle looks better, which is the key aspect when looking at aesthetics which is what bodybuilding should be about.
@@giakhanhthehinhcoban LOL wrong question, the real question has to be apples to apples. A regular man who trains then drys up next to the arms of 99% of any pro BBer dry. Then you can really single out what the roids do.... But not really because of what roids do to build the muscle. In other words a clean normal person no matter the genetics will never beat a pro with bad genetics
@@morningmidnight9398 you're talking nonsense, both Scott and Columbo took steroids, that's the apple vs apple, that is a fair comparison ok? No one in their right mind would compare a natural bodybuilder to the one who does take steroids.
That is the best Mike Menzter quote! In my opinion. You'll never know how good you might become, Unless you try, So let's get with it. Very inspiring indeed.
it's what Jordan Peterson advocates for as well! You might never be th ebest but you don't need to be the best in order to have a good life!
I love when he says nature is very stingy with the gifts it hands out. Some of you are comparing your journey to someone who is superior in building muscle. Don’t even waste your time your better off not even lifting 🔥🔥🔥
A beautiful clip of a brilliant, well spoken man!🙋🙏
A great respect for Mike who does the vast research in human body 💪 and bodybuilding.
Thank you for your channel John. Love your books. Keep the HIT, Mentzer, and Bruce Lee content coming!
Brutally honest, that is what I love about this guy!
You're absolutely right.
BS. Hes just another dishonest from that era that steroids were hush hush. His physique is only capable thru testosterone roids therapy. Yet he speaks as if his physique is attainable naturally thru genetics, diet and train to failure.
idk man. No Mention of Gear whatsoever, which obviously your genetic response to gear play a crucial role in determining if you can become mr o
@strawman8903 That is a good point, Mike was always playing the all-inclusive idealist.
@manwithausername4089 I have also heard Mentzer say on multiple recordings that just because someone has poor genetics doesn't mean they shouldn't train or that they can not achieve a healthy aesthetic physique.
This statement actually further supports HIT training. After all if someone is not genetically gifted with muscular proportion, why would they spend hours and hours in the gym training as if they were going to be a physique athlete.
Thank you giving us new memories of Mike mentzer
Hi John,
I was really fortunate to come across an article on December of 2020 that mentioned Mike Mentzer. It had a picture of him that to this day is still my favorite: a front shot with him “relaxed”. Ironically, I was doing research on Arnold S. trying to figure out what I could do to improve my gains. Needless to say, once I saw what Mentzer was all about I was enlightened on the spot. I already have his books, and always look for more of his stuff here on TH-cam. Please, do not let his legacy die. I certainly won’t.
Hope all is well with you, sir. And thank you for uploading.
Have you read Heavy Duty 2?
Did heavy duty 2 have anything that heavy duty 1 and the book Mentzer co-authored with John Little doesn’t have?
It's not true hard work can beat talant. It's all about genetics. And Mike was right on point with that.
Yes, you need the right parents.
That matters more than anything.
The candle that burns twice as bright only burns half as long. Mike’s light shined bright, a true genius, a beautiful & powerful mind. I really miss him. Thank God for John keeping his memory alive & educating the newer generation who don’t know who he is and don’t realize why they’re not making gains in the gym.
Oh yea I'm like his granddaughter but I miss him so much and I wish he was here longer😢❤
John.. I just learned that Joanne has past away... ... damn.. that sucks .... she was so friendly about sharing Mike stories.. I also did some business with her ordering products on her site... I just went to go see if there was an update on her site becuase I wanted to order some shirts but saw that she obviously had not came back to update the site.... I typed her name in to see if she had a new site or something, and saw she had past away... she was so nice to me... and even SENT ME RARE PICS of Mike from the 80 O' that showed better angles and such to prove he shoulda placed at LEAST in the top 3.. RIP Joanne...
That's sad to hear. Her and I had a brief email correspondence in the early days of Covid. I know John Heart was handling the consultations, but would like to see some singular individual perpetuate Mike's site.
Thank you Mike, for your words of encouragement. It's true unless you try you will never know, but by knowing the odds you can start to stack those odds in your favour. Anyone can achieve their potential you just have to work hard. Thank you Mike.
Good to hear him 🙏🏼
No why would the video cut off in such a important part!!!😢😢 I guess we should be happy with the what we get thank you for these amazing videos.
Very good info. Also, what is that music in the background? Cheers
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Great video.
Ótimo John
Mentzee was a body building genius
Another great one John
It was the 20th anniversary of mike mentzer. Gracias jhon
You're welcome, sir.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE hard to believe he was a speed addict lol! but it's kinda funny to think about, unfortunately ngl haha.
@@chaosdweller maybe he hd adhd and it was medication
@@snakeeyes1662 🤔
@@chaosdweller Actually, it makes perfect sense. Look at what the book says at 3:40 Perhaps he was chasing being able to tap into that. Also, I heard him losing the Olympia to Arnold made him snap, and after that it was all downhill from there. It's very sad because he was obviously brilliant, but it's often the great minds that end up "losing it", as I don't think a person of average intelligence is as prone to "breaking" as the more intelligent people. Their peaks and troughs just aren't as ample as a person of higher intelligence, so feelings, thoughts and emotions are blunted in comparison.
@Joe Toth: Apologies; I hit the wrong button and your post was hidden (disappeared?) That's just my tech ignorance coming to the fore. You had asked if the story about Arthur threatening Arnold was true. I only know of it by hearsay (so you may need to look elsewhere for better confirmation), but I do recall reading of the incident in one of Ellington Darden's more recent books, so Darden (who would have been in DeLand, Florida at the time) believed it to be true.
Yes I read that. It's in the NEW HIT book by Darden, where he oddly also speaks badly of the Mentzers, particularly Mike. He threatened to kick Arnold's ass, even though he was older and a lot smaller. Just shows Arthur Jones had a lot of balls!
Thanks for this treasure
You’re welcome, Juan!
A perfect example of either you have it or you don't: 1:00. My knees hurt just looking at this. I had the ability to throw a baseball 95 mph, but not to be a weightlifter, powerlifter or bodybuilder of note. So it goes.
RIP Mike. God bless you..
I really want to know where to find the background music in the first 20 seconds of the clip.
Please tell me where to download it because I like it.
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What I would give to have a coffee with this guy.
Brains 🧠and brawn 💪🏻
Uhh,great great great informations
What Should I do i have very small bones.
Genetics is everything.
Lame excuse to avoid giving it your all
its not everything but a big part. but doesnt matter because a few people like me have figured out how to alter genetics.
@@blankspace3511 yeah I see that with a lot of guys they hit a bump in there progress and then blame it all on genetics
@@ABABABABABABABABABABBBBBB You have to be able to do it and you have to want to also. Nothing can overcome genetics. If your 3’ tall your not going overcome those shortcomings to be a basketball player. That person might be able to have physical advantages in other places, but it is highly unlikely it will overcome that difference. There is a reason most basketball players are extremely tall. If gives them an advantage. We sometimes can’t do everything we want if we put our mind to it. Not everyone has the equipment to become a porn star either. Yes, you can stand out in other ways , but every advantage helps.
@@blankspace3511 I bet you've got crap genetics
thanks mike you're like a gym dad to me rip
Those final words.
Mike Mentzer was so much more gifted than Arnold, both in intelligence & physical ability
mike mentzer ⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘
Upload ray mentzer's video please
THE SUN RISES AND SETS ON THE WORD OF THIS MANS MIND .MY OPINION.
Haha! ... Wth? ...
I have small bones 😥
actually out of 100,000 bodies way more then 20 would have Mr O potential ... Its the mind that makes the champions in most every sport...
One aspect he missed in bodybuilding is height. Danny Padilla was just too short even though I believe he had the greatest muscular size and symmetry for his height.
5'10" Is the genetic lottery for height when it comes to Bodybuilding.
Yeah height is a thing but I think Mike covers that by talking about bone length.
@Lucien Tall, but not too tall have the advantage. When I met Mike Mentzer in 1979, he was 5' 8'' and I was 6' 2'' at 16 and went on to 6' 4'' (playing pro baseball rather than trying to be a bodybuilder).
@Lucien true, I think this is because height and having longer muscles seems to go together and as mentioned a longer muscle looks better, which is the key aspect when looking at aesthetics which is what bodybuilding should be about.
@Lucien no, taller guys a
Don’t. Average height guys do.
Genetics suck! Being 6 ft 6" and having short muscle belly has always been tough.
Bodybuilding is far more unhealthy than healthy
Jesus Christ this John Little has got the hots for Mike Mentzer big time…
Just doing what I can for a friend to ensure his voice is heard amongst those other "authorities" in the field.
I'll never have beauty because my bones are too big? 😢
Nope all you need is roooooiiiiiiiidddddddssssss
So how can you explain the difference between Scott’s and Columbo’s biceps? They both took steroid.
@@giakhanhthehinhcoban
LOL wrong question, the real question has to be apples to apples. A regular man who trains then drys up next to the arms of 99% of any pro BBer dry. Then you can really single out what the roids do.... But not really because of what roids do to build the muscle. In other words a clean normal person no matter the genetics will never beat a pro with bad genetics
@@morningmidnight9398 you're talking nonsense, both Scott and Columbo took steroids, that's the apple vs apple, that is a fair comparison ok?
No one in their right mind would compare a natural bodybuilder to the one who does take steroids.
@@giakhanhthehinhcoban
No it isn't apples to apples, for you to know the effect of roids you need to have a controled sample that does not use roids.