I have always been proud of my heritage and history of the UK . I look on the idiots trying to say that we should be ashamed of our history as jealousy and weak people .
You can also acknowledge the millions that suffered and died and still are as a result of your country, should bring a tear to your eye. If you learned from history you wouldn't continue to perpetuated the same atrocities like the UK still does.
Most of it is envy of peoples who always as matter of their cultures refuse to face reasons as to why their history only accomplished comparable atrocities but no industrial and scientific revolution at the any comparable scale. Instead of facing facts which is how UK accomplished it's greatness, through self-criticism that makes productive thought progress possible they have only sentimentality and envy which are the values of most rest of the world in perpetual darkness and they're bringing it to your tiny island. It's tragic.
People, or rather persons, can ‘identify’ however they want. I, on the other hand, will ‘identify’ them however the hell I see fit. There are two sexes. A few may have congenital problems but that’s it.
Great conversation guys. Make debate great again ! The battle is not right v wrong, it's nuance verses banality, complex v simple thought, intelligence v activist rhetoric, enquiry v indoctrination ?
You’re not “made” to feel guilty, but your humanity must recognise and accept some of the criminal actions of the past. Put another way, incorrectly trying to erase the entire history of Europe is not a defence of the criminal actions that did in fact occur. One absolutist simplistic approach is just as bad as the opposite simplistic approach. History is nuance and should be continuously studied, discussed and refined.
Oh, but there is a movement to make westerners feel guilty, especially Europeans. It's done by the less competent in the same society, usually out of jealousy. It's very clear since the guilt mongers never study the magnificent achievements that the European continent has give the world.
No. children kill their parents. If the old doesn't get out of the way how can the new come? These guys are prisoners of dead people. Live your own lives for God's sake.
Looking forward to Venezuela 2.0.;Why not emigrate there, 8 million have fled your ideal Tyrannical utopia, I am sure they would welcome true believers
Children almost never kill their parents. What an absurd argument. Smart societies treasure the people who have gained knowledge through experience. Sure live your own life, as long as it is so ignorant that you have to reinvent the wheel. You are a fool, or just an idiot.
So we want to go back to the 1950s when History was all about glorifying British kings, generals and admirals ? And we're going back to smothering our kids with tedious cultural ceremonies ? And not call these things "indoctrination" ? Like a lot of people as they get older, Furedi is just trying to hang on to his memories of the past, becoming more conservative. But no less contrarian of course.
I think a balance needs to be struck. The impression is given than the West was uniquely evil in the past. But why not look at other former Empires: the Ottoman, the Mongol, the Chinese, etc. They were all guilty of terrible crimes. Africans, for example, sold other Africans into slavery. Is that taught in the school. Let’s balance it out. Uniquely the West also gave many positive things to the world: the concept of human rights, individual liberty, freedom of religion, democracy. Not to mention the many, many scientific discoveries which led to advances in medicine, communication, transport, agriculture, etc. etc. All these things have made considerably easier for the average citizen. Which other Empire has done so much. Western people can be rightly proud of their heritage. Why not?
No doubt you Commies would prefer to forget the 100 million murdered by your toxic ideology. And the undermining the history, culture and traditions of the West along with it's institutions and freedom is another shot at following Gramsci's revolutionary playbook.
Can you please give examples of a kid being smothered with tedious cultural ceremonies? Also, I think, though I did not finish this as I was not especially impressed with his insights, that he was not referring to things that happened within his lifetime. That is fairly obvious. So no, not trying to hang on to memories of his past. Where do you draw the line between customs and indoctrination? I would say that customs evolve through time, and gain some of their cachet from simple age and proven effectiveness, and indoctrination is a fairly sudden event, where new ideas are such a break from the past that they must be forced upon people. Meaning that people who follow their customs are doing the opposite of indoctrination, at least sometimes.
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I have always been proud of my heritage and history of the UK . I look on the idiots trying to say that we should be ashamed of our history as jealousy and weak people .
You can also acknowledge the millions that suffered and died and still are as a result of your country, should bring a tear to your eye. If you learned from history you wouldn't continue to perpetuated the same atrocities like the UK still does.
Most of it is envy of peoples who always as matter of their cultures refuse to face reasons as to why their history only accomplished comparable atrocities but no industrial and scientific revolution at the any comparable scale. Instead of facing facts which is how UK accomplished it's greatness, through self-criticism that makes productive thought progress possible they have only sentimentality and envy which are the values of most rest of the world in perpetual darkness and they're bringing it to your tiny island. It's tragic.
Thank you Frank Furedi
"History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes." - Mark Twain
The whole Venetian Aristotelian movement was based on the premise that ideas are stronger than wars.
But you're against the Aristotlelians. So you choose war over ideas...
When all the cultures blend into a mush of one, how can you travel and experience other cultures?
you‘re not supposed to travel. that is the intention.
@@timbookedtwo2375 agreed.
Traveling can give you new ideas. New ideas are a threat.
I don’t think many know about the North African White Slave Trade or what happened during the 700 Year War.
1550ish and 50 years before the atlantic slave trade that they want US to bleed for still. Guess who was the first slavetraders...
Yeah, I can tell or they just know and scoff.
neither do you.
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People, or rather persons, can ‘identify’ however they want.
I, on the other hand, will ‘identify’ them however the hell I see fit. There are two sexes. A few may have congenital problems but that’s it.
Fanon, Foucault, Said, Marcuse, Adorno, Sartre, Beauvoir, Derrida, Zinn, etc. And due to social media the reality is erased
Great conversation guys.
Make debate great again !
The battle is not right v wrong, it's nuance verses banality, complex v simple thought, intelligence v activist rhetoric, enquiry v indoctrination ?
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The truth is this: peace is not given it’s won. I’m not guilty about my Grand father and uncles fighting in WW2 for my freedom I’m proud of them.
Its just the application of Cultural Marxism at a supranational level.
what gives anyone the right to impose their world view on your children or anyone whatever ideology
Very interresting, thanks!
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Best analysis is current events causes I’ve heard…
I've never experienced any attempts of feeling guilty about our past.
Even INTONATION is of a Significant Importance
John O'Looney funeral home director interview a MUST listen.
You’re not “made” to feel guilty, but your humanity must recognise and accept some of the criminal actions of the past. Put another way, incorrectly trying to erase the entire history of Europe is not a defence of the criminal actions that did in fact occur. One absolutist simplistic approach is just as bad as the opposite simplistic approach. History is nuance and should be continuously studied, discussed and refined.
Accept what, criminal actions?! LOL I accept it, now move on or ask rest of the world to do the same otherwise leave me alone.
Oh, but there is a movement to make westerners feel guilty, especially Europeans. It's done by the less competent in the same society, usually out of jealousy. It's very clear since the guilt mongers never study the magnificent achievements that the European continent has give the world.
One minute in, oh dear, abortion is not a 'cultural issue' it's a womens rights issue
Abortion isn’t a women’s rights issue luv, it takes 2 to make a baby.
@@davidbrims5825 exactly, it is a human rights issue
Women's rights are part of culture... or not.
You have to learn from mistakes of history and that doesn't mean that you're feeling necessarily guilty. I think his reasoning is Sophism.
Today, they are interested in making history, not learning from it.
As it has always been.
what gives anyone the right to impose their world view on your children or anyone whatever ideology
So your saying we shouldn't teach children the truth.
It is about truth, exactly.
Hi you people don't remind us of our colonial genocide past
Get real, moron
No. children kill their parents. If the old doesn't get out of the way how can the new come? These guys are prisoners of dead people. Live your own lives for God's sake.
Looking forward to Venezuela 2.0.;Why not emigrate there, 8 million have fled your ideal Tyrannical utopia, I am sure they would welcome true believers
Children almost never kill their parents. What an absurd argument. Smart societies treasure the people who have gained knowledge through experience. Sure live your own life, as long as it is so ignorant that you have to reinvent the wheel. You are a fool, or just an idiot.
So we want to go back to the 1950s when History was all about glorifying British kings, generals and admirals ?
And we're going back to smothering our kids with tedious cultural ceremonies ?
And not call these things "indoctrination" ?
Like a lot of people as they get older, Furedi is just trying to hang on to his memories of the past, becoming more conservative.
But no less contrarian of course.
I think a balance needs to be struck. The impression is given than the West was uniquely evil in the past. But why not look at other former Empires: the Ottoman, the Mongol, the Chinese, etc. They were all guilty of terrible crimes. Africans, for example, sold other Africans into slavery. Is that taught in the school. Let’s balance it out. Uniquely the West also gave many positive things to the world: the concept of human rights, individual liberty, freedom of religion, democracy. Not to mention the many, many scientific discoveries which led to advances in medicine, communication, transport, agriculture, etc. etc. All these things have made considerably easier for the average citizen. Which other Empire has done so much. Western people can be rightly proud of their heritage. Why not?
There's new indoctrination going on now
No doubt you Commies would prefer to forget the 100 million murdered by your toxic ideology. And the undermining the history, culture and traditions of the West along with it's institutions and freedom is another shot at following Gramsci's revolutionary playbook.
Can you please give examples of a kid being smothered with tedious cultural ceremonies? Also, I think, though I did not finish this as I was not especially impressed with his insights, that he was not referring to things that happened within his lifetime. That is fairly obvious. So no, not trying to hang on to memories of his past. Where do you draw the line between customs and indoctrination? I would say that customs evolve through time, and gain some of their cachet from simple age and proven effectiveness, and indoctrination is a fairly sudden event, where new ideas are such a break from the past that they must be forced upon people. Meaning that people who follow their customs are doing the opposite of indoctrination, at least sometimes.
@@simonestreeter1518 Totally agree. We are seeing indoctrination now in schools and universities.